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10-28 H3: Hey Hugh, M's Manager Search & Are The Seahawks Done · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: And joining us now is our QB1, Hugh Millen.
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  Speaker 2: How are you, sir? Great to be with you. Wow.
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  Speaker 2: You oversell, I'll under-deliver. Yeah, we play our part.
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  Speaker 1: And break.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, ready to break. On two, on two.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so when you heard about this for the
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  Speaker 1: first time yesterday, what was your thought?
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  Speaker 3: My immediate reaction is, wow, how did he pull that off?
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  Speaker 3: How did Snyder pull that off? I don't think it
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  Speaker 3: was a big compensation. I think within seconds I was
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  Speaker 3: thinking of Steve Hutchinson, who left Seattle in the middle
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  Speaker 3: of a Hall of Fame career at age 29 and
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  Speaker 3: 3 months, Quentin Nelson's 30 and 7 months. not much
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  Speaker 3: of a difference there. Actually, Nelson is more accomplished at
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  Speaker 3: this point of his career with eight Pro Bowls. Hutch
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  Speaker 3: at the time had four Pro Bowls and two AP
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  Speaker 3: First Team All Pros. And so, you know, I want
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  Speaker 3: to say fleecing the Colts, there wasn't a front office
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  Speaker 3: gaffe like Tim Ruskell committed against Mike Holmgren.
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  Speaker 2: I'll use that word. But you're getting a.
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  Speaker 3: A terrifically accomplished player. And then I creeped on his
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  Speaker 3: leadership and all of these quotes that I have from
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  Speaker 3: his teammates about how accountable is his work ethic. And
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  Speaker 3: in terms of, you know, he gets just as pissed
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  Speaker 3: in practice about if he makes a mistake. He sprints
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  Speaker 3: down the field to help people up. I think Jacoby
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  Speaker 3: Brissett described him as insane in his capacity to do that. So,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you're getting a glue guy because make it clear.
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  Speaker 3: In my opinion, the best players are always leaders. Everybody's
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  Speaker 3: using the term leader in a positive way.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, he's a leader. He's a leader. Well, you know what?
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  Speaker 3: I played with 93 pro bowlers. Most of them were
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  Speaker 3: good leaders. Some of them A few of them were
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  Speaker 3: very poor leaders because they were great players who groused
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  Speaker 3: and had a bad attitude, didn't buy in, and they
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  Speaker 3: brought everybody down, especially the young guys. So it was
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  Speaker 3: important to me to say what kind of guy he is. Well,
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  Speaker 3: it didn't take me long to realize that the information
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  Speaker 3: was just overflowing about what a tremendous teammate and competitor
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  Speaker 3: he is. One cornerback said that when he had his
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  Speaker 3: Achilles hurt, the guy that checked in on him the
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  Speaker 3: most at the hospital and seeing how he was doing
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  Speaker 3: was Quentin Nelson. And so loved the player, watched a
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  Speaker 3: lot of tape, loved the accomplishment. I mean, Haley, in
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  Speaker 3: his entire career, every season, he has played the maximum
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  Speaker 3: amount of games, except for one when he missed four
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  Speaker 3: games with an ankle. So the durability piece is there. Uh, the,
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  Speaker 3: the player is there, the leaders there, uh, he's young enough.
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  Speaker 3: The compensation we'll talk about the compensation. Um, I love
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  Speaker 3: the move. I, I, I, it's really hard for me
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  Speaker 3: to close my eyes and envision regretting this trade.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Even if he leaves at the end of
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  Speaker 1: this year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You get a third round compensation back. So then you
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  Speaker 3: only rented him for a fifth rounder, you know? And so, um, Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 3: very elated as a fan, very elated as an analyst,
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  Speaker 3: I guess, just the non-emotional side. There's an emotional side,
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  Speaker 3: but the rational, the reasoning, I reason it through, and
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  Speaker 3: I just can't see any reason to complain.
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  Speaker 2: This is a good day for the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 1: I love how you kind of step forward with a
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  Speaker 1: big spiel, if you will, on the intangibles. But when
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  Speaker 1: you went and watched the film, what exactly are? I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure everybody wants to know. What exactly did you see?
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  Speaker 1: How good of a player is this guy? Well, I
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  Speaker 1: would say, you know, like most guards.
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  Speaker 3: He is not an elite athlete, but he's an elite technician.
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  Speaker 3: He always gets his feet in their proper place. The
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  Speaker 3: man he's blocking, he's blocking center cut. He's never off
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  Speaker 3: balance in terms of where he wants his placement. His
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  Speaker 3: hands placement is perfect. I mean, you'd swear he's freaking
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  Speaker 3: holding because he has ability to lock on a guy.
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  Speaker 3: And when I say center cut, I mean, you want
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  Speaker 3: the core of your body to be aligned with the
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  Speaker 3: core of his body in the direction you want to go.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there's kind of physics involved. And so he's
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  Speaker 3: a technician. He'll get on you, whether it's at the–
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  Speaker 3: he's got the strength to block defensive linemen. He's he
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  Speaker 3: you know, well, I don't see, again, a legal agility.
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  Speaker 3: You generally only see that from tackles from a lineman perspective.
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  Speaker 3: But his his agility is more than adequate.
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  Speaker 2: But but he.
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  Speaker 3: Plays he he plays like there's a I don't say
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  Speaker 3: calmness because you say I don't want my my lineman
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  Speaker 3: to be calm. He doesn't rush. Meaning some linemen will
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  Speaker 3: get out there into the second level linebackers and they're
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  Speaker 3: in a big hurry to get there.
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  Speaker 2: And then they overrun the linebacker. The linebacker is always
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  Speaker 2: going to be a better athlete than the guard.
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  Speaker 1: Always, always, always.
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  Speaker 3: So then, okay, how does an inferior athlete block a
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  Speaker 3: superior athlete in space?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you can't rush up on him.
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  Speaker 3: You've got to kind of size assess where he's going,
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  Speaker 3: and he just always does that to perfection. The few
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  Speaker 3: times in pass blocking, he's very smart. He hands off
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  Speaker 3: the stunts, and he has blitz recognition. There's a certain
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  Speaker 3: core strength. Every offensive line coach will evaluate a player say, okay,
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  Speaker 3: what happens when you get beat? Do you have the
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  Speaker 3: competitiveness and the skill set and often the core strength
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  Speaker 3: to recover? And so I see signs of recovering. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: he gets knocked back and he's like, oh, whoa, he's
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  Speaker 3: about to get walked back to the quarterback. Nope, he's
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  Speaker 3: able to anchor down. And even from a less than
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  Speaker 3: ideal position, let's say he's a little too tall, he
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  Speaker 3: still can engage his core strength. and stop the momentum
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  Speaker 3: of a defensive tackle. Remember now, when you play guard
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  Speaker 3: as opposed to tackle, you've got to have these two attributes.
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  Speaker 3: You have to be smarter to play guard, and you
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  Speaker 3: have to be more physical. Things happen faster, and you're
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  Speaker 3: blocking heavier, stronger guys. As a tackle, you don't have
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  Speaker 3: to be as smart, but you have to be more athletic.
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  Speaker 3: So I think you're talking about an offensive guard who
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  Speaker 3: is absolutely going to end his career with a gold jacket.
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  Speaker 3: And so he brings that experience into the offensive line room.
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  Speaker 3: There's no question Gray Zabel is going to get a
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  Speaker 3: trampoline effect to his career in the same manner that
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  Speaker 3: Cooper Cupp provided for JSN. I think you're going to
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  Speaker 3: see those types of improvement because he's going to instantly
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  Speaker 3: step into that offensive line room.
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  Speaker 2: He's the dog. He's the alpha.
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  Speaker 3: Just because of his accomplishments. And despite the fact that
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  Speaker 3: Seahawks have the super rings and he doesn't, having been
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  Speaker 3: on a pretty, you know, meh Colt team for all
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  Speaker 3: these years, his personal accomplishments is going to get the
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  Speaker 3: attention of everybody. Leonard Williams is going to salute that man.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody, right?
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  Speaker 3: So he's going to have that presence instantly when he
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  Speaker 3: comes in. I'm getting off of the, the question about
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  Speaker 3: his technique, but, but those were the observations I have
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  Speaker 3: when I see him on tape.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's great.
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  Speaker 1: Um, and, and perfect for the system, right? Like ideal
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  Speaker 1: for the system that the Seahawks run.
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  Speaker 2: Correct. Uh, yes, yes.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I mean the Colts, they, they, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking at the, the, uh, sabermetricians, they, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you know, uh, one outfit will say that they're first
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  Speaker 3: in outside zone. And then another one says they're six
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  Speaker 3: or something. Let's just say they're in about the top
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  Speaker 3: hat handful. So he's run the scheme.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, you know, I see him run the scheme and
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  Speaker 3: he's got the feet to do it. And, and he is,
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  Speaker 3: he is great at getting the hook and, and, you know,
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  Speaker 3: he'll just, like I said, there's a, there's a, what,
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  Speaker 3: what did John wouldn't say, you know, um, uh, be quick,
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  Speaker 3: but don't, um, hurry.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Quick, but not in a hurry. Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And he just has a way of, of not
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  Speaker 2: overdoing it.
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  Speaker 3: Like, like if, if you say, Oh, I want to
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  Speaker 3: hook this guy, meaning get to his outside shoulder and, uh,
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  Speaker 3: and get, and get my slide, my hips around towards
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  Speaker 3: the sideline, which will pin the defensive tackle. You know,
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  Speaker 3: some guys, they do it so fast that, that now
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  Speaker 3: they allow the inside penetration. He just always is he, he,
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  Speaker 3: you know, on the outside zone, he just, he, he
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  Speaker 3: just has the perfect level of, okay.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You, you swung your hips at the exact pace that
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  Speaker 3: you should. And, and so, uh, yeah, he can, he
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  Speaker 3: can run any scheme. I mean, he, he can pull,
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  Speaker 3: he could, you know, I've seen him pull on power encounter,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and, and remember now people are going to
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  Speaker 3: be inclined to say, uh, okay. They, they ran the
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  Speaker 3: zone to the left side and, you know, and, and
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  Speaker 3: then we're going to try and draw, uh, conclusions about
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  Speaker 3: what the stats were when you ran over him. But
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  Speaker 3: just as important, you know, when you're running the stretch
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  Speaker 3: to the right, with him climbing into the backside and
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  Speaker 3: he can push, you're going to see with Jadarian Price
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  Speaker 3: these cutbacks, and Nelson is going to be pivotal, even
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  Speaker 3: though it's stretched right. Nelson is going to be washing
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  Speaker 3: the backside down, and Jadarian Price is going to, cut
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  Speaker 3: right back off.
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  Speaker 1: Of his ass.
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  Speaker 2: That's the backside B gap.
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  Speaker 3: And if you don't believe me, look at Jadarian Price's
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  Speaker 3: very first rush of his career. It was stretched right,
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  Speaker 3: and it went back on the backside C gap, on
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  Speaker 3: the backside of Charles Cross for about a 13-yard gain.
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  Speaker 3: So So those cutback lanes are important. So when you're
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  Speaker 3: talking about a scheme fit, yeah. And, but you know what,
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  Speaker 3: if the Seahawks wanted to major in power encounter, uh,
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  Speaker 3: which are different schemes, I'd say he fits that scheme. Now,
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  Speaker 3: you know, now as a thought, you know, the idea
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  Speaker 3: that we're, we're, um, you know, doubling down on, on the, uh, the,
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  Speaker 3: the wide zone, you know, the other night, Emmanuel Wilson
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  Speaker 3: had five, um, out of his 24, he had five
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  Speaker 3: outside zones. He had a couple of mid zones, but,
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  Speaker 3: but they weren't, They weren't trying to major in the
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  Speaker 3: wide zone with Emmanuel Wilson. They made the determination, hey,
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  Speaker 3: this is an inside guy. We're going to run duo.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to run inside zone. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 3: get into X's and O's, but those are runs between
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  Speaker 3: the A gaps and maybe B gaps. But those are
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  Speaker 3: right up Broadway type of runs, and they did far
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  Speaker 3: more of that than the wide zone, which was just
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  Speaker 3: five out of 24. But in any event, love the
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  Speaker 3: scheme fit to answer your question.
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  Speaker 1: Hugh Millen is with a special Wednesday appearance from Hugh,
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  Speaker 1: of course. Quentin Nelson trade yesterday. We had to get
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  Speaker 1: Hugh's thoughts on it, his deep dive, what he's thinking
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  Speaker 1: about this addition. And I think the next big question is,
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  Speaker 1: where do you put Zabel? What would be your new
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  Speaker 1: offensive lineup with Nelson here?
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  Speaker 3: Well, when I watch Nelson, he takes a standard left
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  Speaker 3: guard alignment. His left foot is back. His left hand
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  Speaker 3: is on the ground. And, you know, you punch. You
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  Speaker 3: have your post step. All of this, you know, he's
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  Speaker 3: been doing this his entire career. In no way would
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  Speaker 3: I want to ask him to do anything other than
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  Speaker 3: play left guard. You know, it's like I'll give you
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  Speaker 3: a couple examples. You know, for me, and I talked
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  Speaker 3: to Kevin. You remember Kevin Green, the outside linebacker? Oh, yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he's from Granite City, Illinois. Yeah, Pittsburgh Steelers. He's in
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  Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame. He and I were teammates at
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  Speaker 3: the Rams, and then he was coaching for the Packers.
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  Speaker 1: He married my sister. Yeah, I know him better than
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  Speaker 1: you do. No, I'm kidding.
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  Speaker 2: Well, his sister married my brother, so there you go.
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  Speaker 2: Tit for tat. I see him at holidays, too.
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  Speaker 3: Unfortunately, he's passed, but we were talking when he was
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  Speaker 3: a coach to the the Packers and catching up. And
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  Speaker 3: we were talking about this very point, like whether you
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  Speaker 3: can play left or right. And for him, he was
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  Speaker 3: a left side. You think of most edge rushers want
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  Speaker 3: to be on the right, the blind side of the quarterback, right?
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  Speaker 3: But he said he couldn't. His hand placement was off.
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  Speaker 3: He felt off balance. His timing, he felt uncoordinated. He
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  Speaker 3: could not rush from the right side. He only had
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  Speaker 3: to be on the left side, right? And some players
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  Speaker 3: are okay with it. Some players aren't. Um, you know,
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  Speaker 3: for me, you know, like, like water skiing, when I,
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  Speaker 3: when I go on one ski, I'm left foot forward.
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  Speaker 3: If you tried to tell me to go right foot forward,
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  Speaker 3: oh my God, I would, I I'd, I'd, I'd fall
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  Speaker 3: every time I'd be getting enemas and, and up my
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  Speaker 3: nose and right. So I can only water ski one way. And, and,
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  Speaker 3: and I think it's apt and, um, and you know, and,
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  Speaker 3: and if, if you're right-handed, right.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, you ever tried to wipe your butt with your
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  Speaker 2: left hand?
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, like, like, like, like there's just some things that
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  Speaker 3: you need to, you know, you, you get used to
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  Speaker 3: doing it one way and, and, uh, and you can't,
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  Speaker 3: you can't go the other way. So, so I'm not
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  Speaker 3: asking Quentin Nelson to move. So I'm great. He had,
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  Speaker 3: he had four and 53 snaps at, in college on the,
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  Speaker 3: at left guard, 223, about half.
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  Speaker 2: At right guard.
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  Speaker 3: And then he had 1,064 snaps. So we're pushing close
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  Speaker 3: to 1,300 snaps that Zabel had on the right side
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  Speaker 3: of the line screen. So it's more applicable in this
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  Speaker 3: regard that he has reps on the right side. And
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  Speaker 3: so to me, Gray Zabel is your right guard. Quentin
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  Speaker 3: Nelson is your left guard with Charles Cross hurt. Um,
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  Speaker 3: this is a no brainer to me, Josh Jones. He
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  Speaker 3: started three games at the end of the year last year.
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  Speaker 3: We did more than, than, uh, hold his own, uh,
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  Speaker 3: in that's against the Rams and then Carolina in the 49.
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  Speaker 3: Remember those are as pivotal as it gets. We did
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  Speaker 3: not have Charles cross in those games. And so, um, so, uh, I,
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  Speaker 3: I know Charles crosses, uh, as, as Mike McDonald said,
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  Speaker 3: has an ankle. I'm, I'm glad to know that his
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  Speaker 3: basic anatomy is still intact.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And, uh, and, uh, and, and, and so if cross
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  Speaker 3: doesn't play, That would be my lineup. I would not
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  Speaker 3: be asking Quentin Nelson to go pop out and be
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  Speaker 3: a tackle in his first freaking game as a Seahawk.
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  Speaker 3: That would be malpractice. I mean, that would remind me of,
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  Speaker 3: remember Joe Tooney in 2024? He was 32 years old.
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  Speaker 3: He was a left guard, Pro Bowl, one of the
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  Speaker 3: best guards in football. And they asked him to play
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  Speaker 3: left tackle. in the Super Bowl against Josh Sweat, who
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  Speaker 3: had much longer arms and ate him up. So for me,
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  Speaker 3: I would just halt the discussion about Quentin Nelson doing
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  Speaker 3: anything than maybe 1% put him at right guard. So
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  Speaker 3: it's either 99% left guard, 1% right guard, or nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Let's keep him on the left side. We'll make
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  Speaker 1: Gray adjust.
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  Speaker 3: That would be my thinking. Now, I've been surprised before. Um, what,
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  Speaker 3: what it shocked me if gray's able were to go
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  Speaker 3: to center. I don't think that that's the, the, um,
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  Speaker 3: the movie make either. Uh, but that would have a
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  Speaker 3: higher probability than any of those inside, um, guys going outside. You,
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  Speaker 3: you've got four inside, um, starters, uh, for three positions.
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  Speaker 3: You got, yeah, you got Nelson Sundell, Zabel and Bradford.
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  Speaker 3: I would think, I don't, I don't think I'm going to, um,
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  Speaker 3: blow you away with this take i would think bradford
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  Speaker 3: would be the guy that um you know is is
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  Speaker 3: still standing when the uh you know when the music
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  Speaker 3: stops um but you know we'll see what their decision is.
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  Speaker 1: All right he's 30 years old i mean i don't
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  Speaker 1: know if there are any more joe de lamelliers playing
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  Speaker 1: in their into their 40s or not but i would
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  Speaker 1: think i mean that sounds like a young man to
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  Speaker 1: me playing a position that you can play at a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of an older age, but that's just my
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  Speaker 1: gut reaction. What are your thoughts about him at age
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  Speaker 1: 30 joining the team and maybe beyond this season?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I initially referenced Hutchinson. Hutchinson played his 29-year-old
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  Speaker 3: year for the Vikings, and then he played six seasons
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  Speaker 3: with Minnesota, and at age 31 and 32, He was
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  Speaker 3: both a Pro Bowl player and an AP first-team All-Pro.
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  Speaker 2: So here's some.
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  Speaker 3: Other guards that made the Pro Bowl at 32 or older.
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  Speaker 3: Marshall Yonda made three of them for the Ravens. As
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  Speaker 3: late as 35, he was making Pro Bowl. Richie Incognito,
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  Speaker 3: you remember that guy, right? He was a story in himself.
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  Speaker 3: But he made the Pro Bowl at 34 and 33.
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  Speaker 3: Zach Martin for the Cowboys. made the Pro Bowl at
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  Speaker 3: 33 and 32. Joe Tooney, who I just mentioned, at 32.
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  Speaker 3: So when you're good, and this guy has had the
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  Speaker 3: ability to stay healthy, I think when you're good, you
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  Speaker 3: can be good at that position into your early and
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  Speaker 3: mid 30s so I I will be surprised if Seattle
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: okay this is a 30 year old year I think
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: I think you re-sign him I think you get a
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: great year from him next year I think you get
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: a great year from him um the year after uh
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: so you're gonna get two and a half years with
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: him I would guess um before you start to see
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: signs of slippage but even then maybe he's a Marshall
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Yonda so um so I I I think I think
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: there's still meat on that bone. And, and, um, you know,
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: I think Seahawks have every reason to, uh, if they
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: resign them and then they've resigned all the guys that they've,
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: they've made these types of acquisitions for, I think this
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: guy's going to come in, see the culture.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Uh, he's from New Jersey.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: So I was hoping he was more of a closer
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: to the West coast, but, but I think there's going
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: to be a lot of reasons why he's going to
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: want to resign with the Seahawks.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: And I trust after this conversation, you're all right with
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: a third and a fifth to get Clinton Nelson.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: I would just say this, um, in the Mike, excuse me,
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: let's start over in the John Schneider era. Seattle's had
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: 15 third rounders. Now two of them are too young.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: You haven't made the decision yet in Jalen Milrow and
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: Julian Neal last year's third round corner, but you've made
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: 13 decisions on your third rounders and you've only signed
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: three to second contracts, Russell Wilson, Tyler Lockett, and Abe Lucas.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Got me.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: Uh, the, The fifth rounders, now they've had more fifth
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: rounders for a variety of reasons. They've had 26 picks,
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: 18 decisions. 18 decisions and four of 18 they have re-signed. Now,
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: they're good ones. Cam Chancellor, Richard Sherman, Luke Wilson, Michael Dixon.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: So even John Schneider, the master, we're going to call
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: him the best GM in football, you see the percentages, right?
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: It's like Edgar Martinez, what was he, a 320 hitter?
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: you know, that's great because it's baseball. If a hockey
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: goalie had a 320 stop percentage, he wouldn't be going
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: to the Hall of Fame.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: No, you're not.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: He wouldn't be on the ice past the first day, right?
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: So in different fields, we have different criteria for success.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: And even for a GM, even the best, you know,
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: you're well under 50% as measured by that. Now there's
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: other guys that, that Shaq Griffin was a third rounder.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: He was solid. Nick Vanette, Cody Barton, Damian Lewis. There
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: were some third rounders that contributed to the team. But
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: I think that's a fair cutoff of, okay, was he
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: a really good player? Did the Seattle Seahawks draft the
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: guy and then re-sign him to a second contract? And
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: so even the best, you're well under 50%. So So
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: a third rounder and a fifth rounder do it. And if,
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: if you don't resign, well, Nelson, I'm sure you guys
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: have discussed, uh, the compensation rules, um, dictate from what
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: I understand.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Uh, I, I got a third rounder.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: I got to cement this, but that is, that's what
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: I understand. Is that what you're getting to?
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: So if, if you rented him for a fifth round, uh,
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: given that given like, like Your defense, does anybody have
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: to be told your defense is in a Super Bowl window?
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: That's undisputed. And so now you've just got to bring
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: along the offense, and this is a great way to
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: do it.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: You're outstanding. Thank you, sir.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: We appreciate it.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I hope you saved a little bit for tomorrow on
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Quentin Nelson as well for our roundtable. Otherwise, you might
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: have to sing some show tunes or something. I'll find
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: some new stuff. Yes, you will. Let's go.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Reap some more. All right. Rock and roll. You did
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: not under-deliver, by the way. That's right. Nice work. Nice work.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: There he is, our QB1, Hugh Mellon, joining us right
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: here on the radio program. Great stuff on Quentin Nelson.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: We're certainly not done with that trade today. But coming
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: up next, the Mariners' managerial search seems like it is
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: down to two people.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: I don't think you're going to.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Like either one of them. Sports Radio 93.3, KJR FM. Anders,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: I've told you before, I don't think that there's any way,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: any manager that they can hire that the fan base
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: is going to like. I mean, I think that's just
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: where they are with the organization. I think that's where
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: they are with Jerry and Justin and John, Justin and
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Jerry right now. I just, it's just not going to
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: go over. You know, if it's not, one of the
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: most famous names right now in Major League Baseball. There
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: aren't any just recently retired or, you know, like in
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: college football, you'll have that guy that just wants to
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: sit out a year and be a broadcaster, and then
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: he becomes a hot name again. There's none of that.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: All the best managers are active right now. The most
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: recently retired ones are probably too old, the Bochies and
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: what have you. The Bucs show Walters. Joe Maddon. Joe
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Maddon kind of left on bad terms with baseball. Not
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: exactly thought of in the greatest light when he left
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: his most recent managerial experience. So I don't know if
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: that works for anybody. So it really does. The field
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: is thin to begin with. And if Jerry and Justin
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: decide to just go get some gut instinct, young, next-Steven-vote type,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Because Stephen Vogt had to start that way, and it
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: was the Mariners who identified him first. Kevin Cash had
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: to start that way, had no managerial experience, and just
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: somebody thought, hey, you've got the makings to be a
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: great manager. So it's not like that's a bad idea.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: It's just that the fan base doesn't want you to
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: follow your gut on this because they don't trust your
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: gut because Dan Wilson was your gut, and we spent
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: an entire season, a lot of us, blaming most of
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: the Mariners' woes on the manager and the culture and
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: things like that. So finding the right manager, finding the
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: appropriate culture is the most important thing heading into next year,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: and if they name some no-name like Jason Kanzler with
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: no managerial experience or... The fired, ran out of town,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: failed manager of your chief rival in the Houston Astros?
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: The guy that was on the throne when you overtook
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: the American League West from Houston two years ago, finally? Right.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: It's not going to go over. It's going to go
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: over like a fart in church. It's going to go
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: over like a lead balloon. It's going to go over
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: like a turd in the punch bowl. It's just not
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: going to go over. So Jerry and Justin have no
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: chance to get any good PR out of whoever that
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: they hire as the next manager if these are the
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: two candidates. Yeah, and that doesn't mean they'll be bad managers.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: You're right.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Thank you for saying that. Doesn't mean that Joe Esposito...
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's not going to go over. And
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: at this stage, from a PR perspective, you're taking it
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: in the shorts. You have no way to get a good,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: favorable response if these are your two final candidates. So
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: you might as well go with your gut at this
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: stage because you're not going to win this one. Either way.
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think you're hitting a home run in
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: the press conference when you're announcing either one of these names,
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: to be completely honest.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: So I agree.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: I think... Whatever your decision is, and we're talking to
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: Jerry and Justin here, whatever your decision is, just don't
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: try and do it to appease fans. Do it because
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: it's the right decision to make this team better, to
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: get this team to get over the top finally, because
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: we believe the roster is good enough.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: And I've always said a GM needs to be judged by,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: you need to make the moves that you feel are
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: best because I don't want to judge you on the
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: moves you thought would placate the fans. So if there
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: was a Steven Vogt available and you were bypassing him
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: for your gut, I'd be furious. If Kevin Cash, you
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: could pull something off that Kevin Cash could be our
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: next manager and you're like, no, no, this Kanzler kid's
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: got all the makings. I'd be furious. If you're down
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: to Espada versus Kanzler, there's a reason Kanzler's in it.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: That's your gut. And Espada's the guy that maybe we
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: don't get murdered public relations-wise because he at least has
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: some managerial experience. He's over 500 record in his career.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: He's been in the playoffs before in the past. So
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: maybe this won't go over like that lead balloon, but
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: I don't think you're winning the PR battle. Either way,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: I'll just say this. I think his spot is an
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: upgrade over Dan Wilson. I think the managerial experience he
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: does have was not just handed to him because everybody
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: liked Dan. He has run a major league clubhouse. He
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: has managed in a postseason before. So I think that
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: is an upgrade if that's where they go. And I
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: know nothing about Kanzler. I don't either. But I would
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: just say, going back to my previous point, a lot
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: of the best managers were hired out of I got
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: a great gut feeling about this guy. He's a good
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: people person. He's a good player person. And I think
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: he understands what we do. Like I said, Steven Vogt
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: is that. Kevin Cash is that. There are a lot
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: of guys. You're not going to win this. People are
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: going to hate it. These are your two candidates. The
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: fan base is going to hate either one of them.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: So you might as well go with your gut feeling
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: on who you think. should be the next manager because
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: it's either going to be the best decision you've made
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: that puts us over the top, you were right about it,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: or it's the last decision you're going to make as
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: a front office.
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and they must really like that 2022 Astros team
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: because both these guys are part of that World Series
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: winning team. You know, the team that beat us when
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: Scott Service was back at the helm. So I don't know.
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: Maybe they do have some sort of affinity like that's
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: how we want our team to look like.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: I have no idea, but whatever. I don't know either.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think in today's modern day, you have
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: to have somebody that embraces analytics but doesn't rely on analytics.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I think you should have, considering the last two manager hires,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: you've made somebody with experience. That seemed to me, this
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: entire process, to be the way to go. And yet,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: those experienced guys, none of them were knocking anybody off their–
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: even Rocco Baldelli. Yeah. He decided not to do it.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Maybe he didn't want to work for Jerry. Maybe he didn't.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Or maybe he did just really, I
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: don't want to do it that badly to move my
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: family across the country.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Well, even Baldelli's. I don't know.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: But even that's not some winning. Exactly. Nobody's going to go, oh,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: we got the right manager. A couple winning seasons in
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: one playoff appearance? Right. But that's your best option. Yeah.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Once Lovallo said, even that isn't that great. Even that's
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: not knocking your socks off.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Right, right.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: So there really isn't a knock-your-socks-off pick here. There just isn't.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: So you might as well just go with your gut.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: Totally.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Whatever it is. I think we'll find out soon, and
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: I'll probably be on vacation, and that'll suck. All right,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: coming up next, the NFL trading deadline is two weeks away,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: a little under two weeks away, and yet the Hawks,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: have they already done all their trade deadline work? We'll
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: discuss it next on KJR. All right, Chuck Fowler, Andrew Searce,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: and Chris Kidd with you. Cam Cleland joins us. He
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: always does every Wednesday at 9 o'clock. We'll talk about
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Huskies and Corn Huskers. Huskies versus Huskers on Saturday night
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: right here at Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM. Al Kaniski
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: will be on the call tonight, whatever fits you for
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: the Kraken. Taking on the Leafs. And so should be
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: the Leafs, right? Maple Leafs.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Canada.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Damn Canada. Al Kaniski will join us at 9.30 today,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: but we got a little more time here to talk
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: about the big trade yesterday, Quentin Nelson, and we've covered
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: it from a lot of different angles so far this morning,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: but one we haven't talked a lot about is can
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: you still pull something else off? Look, if you think
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: that my admissions of how NFL math is not real
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: math is an excuse... For not knowing this, I have
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: this microphone, this platform, this legendary radio station.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: I should know everything.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: It's your obligation. It's my obligation to know. Nobody knows.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: I'm going to give you a very good indication because
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: right now there are two websites that a lot of
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: people lean on over the top or over the cap,
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: excuse me, and then Spotrack or Spotrack. Still don't even
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: know how that's pronounced. But their entire websites are dedicating
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: to knowing this information.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Cap space, contracts, everything. And they both have two different
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: salary cap numbers remaining for the Seahawks, but they're not
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: that far off. One's 3.9 and one's like 3.65. So
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: they're not that far off. So there's, there's your range.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: So you could do something else. Uh, and I'm wondering
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: if you think they should do something else. I mean,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I'll give you a name, Tony Pollard, He's owed $ 4. 15
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: million the rest of the season from his $ 6. 7 million contract.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: We're still two games away from the NFL trading deadline,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: so by the time you got there, he'd be under...
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: You wouldn't even have to do any math at all.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: He'd be completely under your available cap space on either website.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: And so that's a name that would improve your running
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: back room if you don't trust it at this point,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: because once you blow through the NFL trading deadline... The
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: only thing you can do is waiver wire pickups at
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: running back at that point. So if you want to
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: actually get somebody who's a starting running back, having a
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: good season, coming off a great game, and Tony Pollard,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: he's gettable, and he would fit under your cap without
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: any machinations.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think.
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: I don't think he's done, by the way. I don't
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: think John Schneider is done. I think they will do
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: something else. It definitely won't be the all-pro level of
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: Quentin Nelson, but it'll be something.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: But.
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: Even if you want to do something that requires more
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: salary cap space than you have, there's many options that
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: you can do. I know Greg mentioned the contract restructuring
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: and stuff like that. You could easily do that. I
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: saw some people say that it's pretty easy to do
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: a Sam Darnold's contract. There's lots of ways that you
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: can do the gymnastics.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Yes, just as I admitted, yes.
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: So I– I still don't think running back is their
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: biggest need. I think because you added to the offensive
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: line in the interior that this improves your running game
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: enough that I feel confident enough with Jadarian Price and
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: Zach Charbonnet.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: And then if you need to, if.
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: You were in a bad worst case scenario where you're
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: going to Emmanuel Wilson again, he just got us 100
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: yards last week. granted, it's not ideal, but if that's
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: the worst case scenario, I still feel okay about one
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: or two games if you need to do that once again,
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: but hopefully we won't have to. I think you need
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: a pass catcher. I think whether it's wide receiver or
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: a tight end or something like that, you need to
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: add to this pass catching because I get it. JSN's amazing.
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: He's the best receiver in the league. He's in the
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: MVP conversation.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: But you need to have something else. And he's the
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: only receiver right now that has a greater than 50%
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: receiving yards share. And if the season finished today, it
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: would be the only receiver in NFL history to do that.
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: So you need to have something else. Elijah Arroyo is
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: out for the year. Hugh Millen has said multiple times
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: that you don't have a wide receiver, too, at this point.
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: So whether that is a tight end that can be
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: a threat in the passing game or whether that is
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: another wide receiver, I think they need another pass catcher.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Dallas Goddard? I'd love that.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Would absolutely love that. Um, apparently he is available at
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: this point. Um, boy, they sure have invested an awful
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: lot in the position of wide receiver. They have for,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: for a Seattle sports talk show host to be sitting
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: here on the, um, Eve, if you will, of the
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: NFL trading deadline and saying that wide receiver is the
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: biggest need. I mean, that's a lot of money invested.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: That's a lot of money invested in Shahid. Um, and so,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: so I, I mean, I don't disagree with that sentiment.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: And you did lose your royal, even though he wasn't
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: really playing a role for you.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: No, he wasn't.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: And Saubert's okay for what he does. But yeah, if
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: you added either one of those things, I'd be all
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: right with it.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: But.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you've taken your big swing. This isn't Major League
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Baseball because there's a salary cap that you don't get
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: to add six or seven pieces at the trading deadline.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: You usually get one big swing. We've taken that with Nelson.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Everybody seems to be really excited about that, it seems.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: But it does leave you a little bit of room,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: a little wiggle room to add something else, whether that
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: is a running back, a receiver, or a tight end,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: or who knows? Who knows?
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: Who knows?
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: I'll say this. Running backs tend to be more... Available. Affordable. Yeah.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Because they've capped that much, you know, not like legally capped,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: but pretty much have capped how much running backs can make.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: In the value market. Yeah, in the value market. So,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: like I said, you could get Tony Pollard right now
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: and not have to do any of those mathematical... Gymnastics, yeah.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: You can just add him to the team and add
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: him to the depth, and I don't think that would
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: be a terrible idea myself. All right, coming up next,
• 35:42
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• 35:45
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