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Ep. 7 - Stanford Recap / BYU Preview with Special Guests Liz Rice & Ry Beville! · Domer & Sons

• 0:01
  Welcome to Domer and Sons, a family podcast on Notre Dame football.
• 0:06
  I'm Calvin Rose, the co-host and the Domer son, and I'm joined by my other son, William Rose.
• 0:15
  And- He's your son?
• 0:17
  Mm-hmm.
• 0:18
  And, my dad, Matthew Rose.
• 0:21
  Hi, William Hey, Cal.
• 0:25
  Hi, Dad.
• 0:26
  Hey, Cal.
• 0:27
  It's Friday, October 16th, it's episode seven, today we're doing a Stanford recap, BYU preview, and later on we'll be joined by Liz Rice and Ri Bevel, two former Notre Dame swimmers who will talk about BYU and give us their game prediction.
• 0:46
  Awesome job, Cal.
• 0:47
  So we're gonna be quick on this Stanford recap.
• 0:50
  Uh, as people will later on find out, we originally had recorded on Sunday, and because I'm fairly incompetent with being consistent with this new tech, I did not record our conversation.
• 1:06
  So anyways, this is round two for us.
• 1:09
  Yeah.
• 1:09
  So Stanford recap.
• 1:11
  Last Saturday Notre Dame completely dismantled Stanford 58 to seven.
• 1:17
  Not much to say here except it was, uh, a thorough whoopin' from start to finish.
• 1:24
  Cal, really, really quickly, tell me a little bit about some of the highlights from a offensive side of the ball.
• 1:29
  I'm just gonna only talk about our positives, and I'm gonna be really quick about it.
• 1:34
  Great distribution of the ball.
• 1:36
  CJ Carr threw the ball very well.
• 1:38
  Uh, there was only one play where I thought CJ Carr made a very risky pass, and that was his almost interception in that in route.
• 1:45
  I think he was just staring at him the entire time, and the linebacker made a good play.
• 1:50
  Jonas Walton had an amazing game.
• 1:52
  He had one carry for 97 yards, but he also had other multiple carries, 13.9 yards per carry on 13 carries and two touchdowns.
• 2:02
  181 yards, which is also a Notre Dame freshman record.
• 2:06
  Yeah.
• 2:06
  And then Aanias Scott, his special wheel route to go to the house.
• 2:10
  There's not much else I have to say about our offense besides we played great, distributed the ball well, and our offensive line played great.
• 2:18
  Yeah, 12 different people received the ball.
• 2:20
  I think we got eight of the receivers with receptions.
• 2:23
  Ian Primer caught his first ball of the year, and Elijah Burris caught his first touchdown pass in an Irish uniform.
• 2:31
  A stat line I wanna talk about real quick was,, I saw this, out of 151 dropbacks CJ Carr has thrown the ball in harm's way four times, which is a 98%, rate of, like, safety.
• 2:46
  So I think that's pretty remarkable that he's played, what, seven games, six games?
• 2:51
  Seven.
• 2:52
  Six games this season.
• 2:54
  Yeah, there's a major difference between this year and last year with CJ.
• 2:56
  He's not, he's typically not forcing it when he's dropping back, and I think you're seeing that, to your point, William.
• 3:04
  Yeah.
• 3:04
  Did get a little bit concerned about that jump route by the linebacker and what that means for a significantly better linebacking core for BYU.
• 3:11
  All right, really quick, tell me about the defensive side of the ball, William So I think the biggest takeaway from this defensive side of the game is Bubacar Traore's a monster.
• 3:22
  He's special.
• 3:24
  That interception just shows his athleticism and how he's, like, not one-sided.
• 3:30
  He also had that forced fumble first play of the game.
• 3:33
  It was, great.
• 3:34
  We allowed just over 200 yards of total offense.
• 3:39
  The one explosive play they had was a botched zone coverage, which was, a Chris Ash thing, not a player thing.
• 3:47
  No, it was really solid.
• 3:49
  I'm proud of our boys.
• 3:52
  Zachary with his first ever pick, which was great.
• 3:55
  Yep.
• 3:56
  And also even without KVA and Leonard Moore, our defense still looked stellar to say the least.
• 4:01
  Yeah.
• 4:01
  I thought our linebackers stepped up a good amount, and DJ McKinney can prove why he can be a corner one, but he's also a great corner two for us, yeah.
• 4:10
  Jaden Sanders did a really good job that game as well.
• 4:13
  Yeah overall just a, a really nice, nice game for us.
• 4:18
  And three total turnovers, you know, two interceptions, a recovered fumble.
• 4:22
  We continue just to be really plus, plus in turnover margin, which is critical for the success of any sort of team success and also defensive success.
• 4:34
  So awesome stuff.
• 4:35
  Yep.
• 4:35
  Awesome stuff.
• 4:36
  Yep.
• 4:36
  All right, let's do quickly, game balls, and I don't think there'll be very many surprises on this one.
• 4:41
  Cal offense, who's your game ball?
• 4:42
  Joe Ness Walton, no explanation needed.
• 4:45
  Yep, agreed.
• 4:46
  William?
• 4:47
  I got CJ Carr.
• 4:48
  Yeah, I mean, again, hard to argue with that.
• 4:51
  CJ was 14 of 20, super efficient, 181 yards, three touchdowns.
• 4:56
  Uh, how many rushing touchdowns does CJ have?
• 5:00
  This season?
• 5:01
  No, d- he had one y- on, on Stanford?
• 5:03
  No.
• 5:03
  No.
• 5:03
  Okay.
• 5:03
  No, but he ran, he ran- Oh exceptionally well.
• 5:06
  He did.
• 5:07
  He had 41 yards rushing.
• 5:08
  He had some design runs in there that were pretty darn cool.
• 5:11
  And I think when he has design runs, he calls his own number, which is interesting.
• 5:15
  Yeah, yeah, probably the coaching staff isn't thrilled about that, but he's seeing something that is allowing him to get some positive yardage.
• 5:23
  And I think he's smart enough not to put himself in harm's way, knock on wood here.
• 5:27
  All it does is it creates another dynamic for defenses to account for in the future, which is, uh, uh, obviously a, a really positive thing.
• 5:37
  Defensive side of the ball, game ball.
• 5:39
  William?
• 5:41
  I got Jayden Sanders.
• 5:43
  Yep.
• 5:43
  I think it was easy to let Stanford pass the ball all over us.
• 5:47
  They were averaging a good amount of passing yards per game, and Sanders filled the role of the best defensive player in the country, and he did it well.
• 5:56
  Agreed Bubacar Traore.
• 5:59
  Again, I don't think I need an explanation No, he was just dominant once again.
• 6:05
  I think there's nothing much to say on either one of those.
• 6:08
  Cal, I'd just kind of duplicate your game balls.
• 6:11
  Go with Walton and Traore here.
• 6:14
  And then wild card, Calvin, who do you got for your wild card?
• 6:17
  The entire running back room.
• 6:19
  I think we don't see it very often when four different backs score a touchdown, whether it's rushing or receiving, and I thought it was very impressive.
• 6:29
  So I got the entire running back room.
• 6:32
  That's awesome.
• 6:32
  William, wild card?
• 6:34
  My wild card was our intensity to start out the game.
• 6:39
  Yeah.
• 6:40
  Yeah.
• 6:40
  Yeah.
• 6:41
  Fast start.
• 6:41
  Similar to Rice, yeah.
• 6:42
  Yeah.
• 6:43
  It's hard to deal with a fast start, especially with this team, uh- Yeah, which Notre Dame's not known for their fast starts particularly.
• 6:49
  No, this, this game started off quite fast, but I'm gonna be honest, Bubacar wasn't blocked at all on his strip sack, but, you know, we'll take it.
• 6:59
  Yeah.
• 6:59
  Strip sack's a strip sack.
• 7:00
  Absolutely.
• 7:01
  My wild card goes out to, a friend of ours who works at the university, Cheryl Vowels.
• 7:08
  If you follow us on social media, maybe you saw that, Cal and I had access to not only a Thursday afternoon kind of walkthrough practice, which was really, really cool, but also we were able to get on the field before the game during warmups.
• 7:23
  And thanks to Cheryl for working some magic to, to allow us to experience a really intimate, and special, environment to be able to do all that stuff.
• 7:34
  So Cheryl, if you're listening, thank you so much.
• 7:38
  Really appreciate it, had a blast, so thank you.
• 7:41
  All right.
• 7:42
  Yeah.
• 7:43
  Let's get on to Brigham Young University.
• 7:47
  Number two versus number eight in Provo, Utah, under the lights.
• 7:54
  Game starts at 7:30 Eastern, 5:30 Mountain, so maybe we'll get a little bit of daylight here, some dusk, and then we're in, in a nighttime football game, a top 10 matchup, college game day, the whole thing.
• 8:09
  Yeah.
• 8:09
  Here we are.
• 8:11
  The second half of the season technically starts, even though we haven't had a bye, second half of the season starts officially with this game, game seven.
• 8:19
  Let's go through it.
• 8:20
  So William Under the lights what is Notre Dame dealing with BYU?
• 8:25
  BYU, so their offense is lacking, but their defense is really where they win their football games.
• 8:32
  For offense, they have huge receivers.
• 8:35
  I think their number one right now is 6'1", and that's the shortest they have.
• 8:39
  Others are 6'4", 6'5", and 6'7".
• 8:43
  They're looking to screen the ball and have the big boys blocking, to, try to see if our DBs can get off the, the tall frames of their receivers.
• 8:54
  They're not running the ball very effectively if it's not with Bear Bachmeier.
• 8:59
  He does have, a decent amount of rushing yards, about 350.
• 9:03
  But their number one, running back, LJ Martin, is out with a lower body injury.
• 9:10
  And, their other outside linebacker, Isaiah Glasker, is also out for their defense.
• 9:18
  BYU is a hundred, 101 in explosive plays allowed, which is one of the worst in the FBS, and if we can get by the blitz with maybe a screen or a quick slant, I think we're gonna have success.
• 9:33
  They're looking to blitz every single play.
• 9:35
  They do a lot of six, six of the line stuff.
• 9:39
  Their run defense isn't as good as you think, and, their pass defense, while their DBs are good, like I said, if you get through, if you break a line, you're gone.
• 9:54
  I think once CJ Carr settles into the game, reads the defense, figure out what works and what doesn't, him and Denbrock can tear this defense apart.
• 10:05
  Yeah.
• 10:06
  I think I agree with you, in a whole.
• 10:09
  What do you ha- have to think about our D-line against containing Bear Bachmeier and just against their O-line in general?
• 10:16
  So BYU's O-line is severely injured right now from the beginning of the season.
• 10:23
  So they g- their run offense is terrible right now, which is what they've been centered around.
• 10:29
  Once LJ- Their run offense- Yeah with running backs.
• 10:31
  Correct.
• 10:31
  With running backs.
• 10:32
  With Bear Bachmeier, I think if we put a spy, we bring a safety into the box, or the D tackles really, really execute on shedding their blocks and getting to inside to fill the A gap, I think we'll be fine.
• 10:46
  Yeah.
• 10:46
  I wouldn't be- Yeah surprised to see a lot of seven, eight in the box go man to man- Yeah one safety up high- Mm-hmm and just selling out for the run to try to get those guys to third and long and in passing situations.
• 11:02
  They're not great at third down conversions, and if we can get them so that we know that they're passing, we'll be in a good spot.
• 11:10
  I have read this.
• 11:12
  Bachmeier I think is fourth in the country in how quickly he gets the ball out of his hands.
• 11:17
  Yep, that's'cause of the O-line.
• 11:18
  They screen...
• 11:19
  Exactly.
• 11:20
  That's my interpretation too, William, is that they, they are doing that because the O-line really can't hold up against a ferocious pass rush.
• 11:29
  Which, as we've proved out, we can bring it with the- Mm best of them.
• 11:33
  Yep.
• 11:33
  Yes.
• 11:34
  I'm with you, Calvin.
• 11:36
  I think a lot of this is just containing Bachmeier And to making sure that he is not a running weapon and having him make the throws.
• 11:46
  And he's gotten better, you know.
• 11:47
  Um, when, you know, you showed me the highlights from the Iowa State game and the thing I was surprised about was his accuracy and intermediate throws was pretty impressive.
• 11:56
  So, if we're gonna go man to man and we're gonna stack the box trying to, uh, make sure we're containing the run- Which I hope we do.
• 12:05
  Yeah, I agree.
• 12:06
  I agree.
• 12:06
  We, we've proven now time and time again that we can do that.
• 12:09
  But if that's the game plan, then our corners are gonna have to be on it.
• 12:14
  Speaking of corners, good piece of information coming out of Notre Dame this week is it appears as if- Leonard Moore and Jason Onye are ruled, available for the game.
• 12:25
  Are available for the game.
• 12:26
  Yeah.
• 12:26
  And I think this'll be Leonard Moore biggest, Leonard Moore's biggest test yet besides, Lemon and Smith in the finals.
• 12:34
  Yeah.
• 12:34
  You know, another concern I have, guys, is as North Carolina proved out us covering the tight end has not been something that- Yeah we've been particularly good at this season, so.
• 12:44
  And they play with their tight ends.
• 12:45
  They play with their tight ends, so our linebackers and Christian Gray are gonna get tested this week.
• 12:51
  And if those guys can play above and beyond, I, I don't think this is close.
• 12:58
  If they struggle, this is gonna be a dog fight, and it might be a dog fight to the very, very end.
• 13:04
  I would prefer to see what would happened in the Wisconsin/Michigan State games where it is kinda close going into halftime, we come out, and eventually we wear them down, and I think that's ultimately what will happen.
• 13:17
  Mm-hmm.
• 13:18
  Any, any concerns that you guys have in particular?
• 13:21
  No.
• 13:22
  I agree with what you're saying, and I think that Bachmeier needs to He just gets the ball out'cause that offensive line isn't very good.
• 13:31
  And I just think- Teon Gray, Francis Brew and Onye and maybe even Mukum are just gonna have, are gonna try to have a field day against this team, against this offensive line.
• 13:44
  And then our edge rushers will.
• 13:46
  I think Bryce Young's also due for a good game.
• 13:49
  I think the tough thing about that is they really Calvin, they like screen the ball and they run the ball.
• 13:56
  They don't give the O-line a chance.
• 13:58
  They don't even give the ends their play a chance to sack him.
• 14:02
  I looked through the stats.
• 14:03
  They've allowed three sacks all season, all in the first two games of the season because they were still trying to pass the ball.
• 14:10
  Now they're screening.
• 14:11
  My biggest concern actually is, their receivers are effectively tight ends, how big they are.
• 14:18
  So if our DBs can't get off the block, we're gonna have to rely on the safeties to come in and make the tackle which I'm confident we can do- Yeah because Adon Shuler is one of the best players I've seen that can do that.
• 14:28
  Yeah, I think also we just need to look at hopefully just having one high safety there the entire time and not two.
• 14:35
  I think two high safeties really dares them to run the ball with either Bachmeier or their running back.
• 14:40
  So I think having Talich back there,'cause I, I kinda think he's better in that deep coverage than, uh, Shuler.
• 14:47
  Definitely,'cause he's 6'4".
• 14:49
  Still.
• 14:50
  Yeah.
• 14:51
  Um- And, and he's a ball hawk.
• 14:52
  Yeah.
• 14:52
  Yeah, and he's a ball hawk.
• 14:54
  And then offensively obviously we've got to continue to be able to run the ball.
• 14:58
  That's gonna be critical.
• 14:59
  And as we've seen over the last three weeks, it's gotten better and better with our offensive line continuity.
• 15:06
  They're creating holes for all three backs.
• 15:09
  This is the game where i'm assuming Nolan James is going to start which I think is completely fine.
• 15:14
  But maybe what we've seen over the last two weeks is that there's now a switch that Jonaz Walton will get a majority of the carries.
• 15:23
  And I'm good with all three backs playing.
• 15:26
  I think we need them, especially as you think about the length and duration of the season that we hope to have.
• 15:33
  On the depth chart it sa- it listed, um, Aeneas Williams as running back one.
• 15:38
  Does that mean- Aeneas does that mean anything?
• 15:40
  I don't think it means anything.
• 15:42
  Okay.
• 15:42
  I think it's semantics at this point.
• 15:44
  Yeah.
• 15:44
  We have three RB1s at this point and I think- Yeah we all know that- Yeah the reality of it is probably Jonaz is RB1- Yeah Nolan James is RB2 and Aeneas is RB3.
• 15:55
  I think one of my- Yeah favorite things about this game is we have three great running backs and- We're not gonna get tired- Yeah with those running backs.
• 16:05
  They're gonna, they're gonna try to hit us.
• 16:06
  They're gonna send a lot of blitz.
• 16:07
  Yeah.
• 16:09
  If any of them have remotely as a good game as they did last week, we'll rush for well over 200 and we'll, well, I think we'll tear this defense apart.
• 16:20
  If, if we run for 200 yards, I'm telling you guys right now, we run for 200 yards and we're at least even on turnover margin, we win this game.
• 16:29
  Yes.
• 16:29
  Turnover margin is the most important stat for me, frankly I also wanna say this.
• 16:32
  Well, at the Stanford game, I think you heard me say this as well, we shuffled a back every two drives.
• 16:38
  So Nolan James started.
• 16:40
  He got the first two drives, then Aeneas, then Jonas.
• 16:44
  And if you look at Nolan James, 10 carries for 73 yards and two touchdowns.
• 16:50
  He had a good game.
• 16:51
  I think we didn't give him enough credit.
• 16:53
  He had a very good game.
• 16:55
  And Aeneas seven carries for 28 yards and four yards a carry.
• 16:59
  So I just think our running backs are just gonna do very well this game, and I think Ja'vion Osborne showed us some flashes against Stanford, so Yeah, and what doesn't show up on a stat sheet, Aeneas' runs, I think they were critical runs on, you know, a third down.
• 17:13
  Yeah.
• 17:13
  Um, so, you know, he, he just needs to get the yardage, and he has proven to get it over and over again.
• 17:19
  Obviously he's a absolute asset, and probably our best blocking running back, and you can't argue with the way he is able to go out and receive the ball.
• 17:30
  As you deal with pressure, on the offensive line, and specifically C.J.
• 17:37
  Carr, as you deal with pressure, oftentimes you're audibling out into your own screens, your own quick slants.
• 17:45
  So, if anything, having C.J.
• 17:47
  Carr as your quarterback in a game against- Yeah uh, a defensive line that does a lot of loops, a lot of stunts, they do a lot of just exotic stuff that- Yeah requires a lot of communication with your offensive line.
• 18:02
  But to have a quarterback out there who can switch into different protections based on what he's seen in the film room, guys, you know, uh He's amazing at calling things out before the play.
• 18:13
  I think GameDay did a little- Yeah segment on it.
• 18:15
  He's- The Jaden, I was thinking about this, the Jaden Greathouse on the goal line was a really...
• 18:20
  I think he literally changed his route Changed his route right there.
• 18:24
  Yeah.
• 18:24
  Yeah.
• 18:25
  Which is crazy.
• 18:26
  That's kinda crazy.
• 18:27
  I, that, so we're, we're living in very charmed times, guys.
• 18:31
  Mm-hmm.
• 18:32
  Uh, you know?
• 18:32
  And there's a chance he stays next year, but we're not gonna focus on that, we're gonna focus on giving our game predictions.
• 18:38
  No, hold on, I have one last thing.
• 18:40
  Oh, yeah.
• 18:40
  All right?
• 18:40
  Yeah.
• 18:41
  Yeah.
• 18:41
  So one thing is all year BYU has not converted a fourth down.
• 18:47
  They've only been faced with it four times.
• 18:49
  They haven't converted it at all, and out of, out of, um, not, 10 trips to the red zone their opponents have gone on They've gave up eight touchdowns That's a lot That's a lot Their red zone defense- Yes has not been great.
• 19:04
  And on third down, they're 35%.
• 19:07
  That's also not good.
• 19:09
  That's not good.
• 19:10
  Yeah.
• 19:10
  No.
• 19:11
  So like I said, explosive plays, right?
• 19:15
  That's gonna be the most important thing, and we gotta find our footing in the running game and the passing game.
• 19:19
  Yeah, and I'm just gonna mention this'cause you said explosive plays, and you s- you said something about a quick slant.
• 19:24
  I'm thinking is there a chance maybe Bubba Frazier could possibly get here and j- just because of his breakaway speed and just because you put him on a quick slant, we saw in that little practice clip, it's a slant against a better defense, and he just runs away.
• 19:39
  So- I think, I think we got guys who can do that.
• 19:41
  We do have guys.
• 19:42
  We do have guys who, uh, I think we do have guys that'll do that, but to your point, Cal, he'd offer something that the other receivers really can't.
• 19:48
  And guys, I think we've praised CJ for his ability to change up plays.
• 19:53
  William, you just said that he literally changed up Greathouse's route at the line of scrimmage.
• 19:58
  Well, if you are a freshman or sophomore receiver and you don't know this playbook and all the different variations- that come out of it, you're not gonna get on the field because CJ is constantly- Changing evaluating and changing, right?
• 20:14
  Yeah.
• 20:15
  So there's a reason why we haven't seen a lot of these receivers that we would like to see is because, they probably just have not been able to get completely up to speed to everything in the playbook, which I completely understand.
• 20:28
  Yeah, it's gonna be exciting.
• 20:30
  For me, another key point of this game is gonna be what happens on fourth down.
• 20:34
  We have to win fourth down.
• 20:36
  Marcus is gonna be aggressive on fourth down.
• 20:38
  We have to win more times than not, and I'm assuming BYU's also gonna have to be aggressive- Yeah, their- on fourth down the defense is 33%, so they're gonna have to do something different and bring some more heat.
• 20:50
  Yeah.
• 20:50
  Yeah, I'm just interested at what point do we not go for fourth down,'cause I think if we're at the 50-yard line and it's fourth and four, I think- I would go for it personally.
• 21:00
  I mean- What I like about this team is we did this last year.
• 21:04
  We can run the ball on third and eight, third and 10 because we're gonna go for it on fourth.
• 21:10
  Granted, that was with Love and he could get more yards per carry, but I think if we're around the 50, it's third and eight, I'd be completely fine running the ball up the middle, then let's go for it.
• 21:20
  Yeah.
• 21:20
  I don't disagree.
• 21:21
  It's third and long, you do have the opportunity with the backs that we have to, make that a two-play series to try to get first down.
• 21:31
  Yeah.
• 21:31
  All right.
• 21:32
  Predictions All right, Cal, you wanna go first?
• 21:35
  Yeah, I'll go first.
• 21:35
  I It's gonna be a dog fight in the first half like it always is, but I think our, ability, our conditioning is just gonna come into the second half.
• 21:44
  We're gonna wear BYU out.
• 21:45
  I think it's gonna be a 31-17 game, Notre Dame.
• 21:52
  Awesome.
• 21:52
  Awesome.
• 21:52
  I was, I was gonna say 31 to 20.
• 21:54
  31-20?
• 21:55
  Yeah, yeah.
• 21:56
  Okay.
• 21:56
  Those are all good.
• 21:57
  Um, I'm going actually a little bit closer, guys.
• 22:00
  I'm gonna say 28 to 17.
• 22:02
  Both teams take their time on offense.
• 22:05
  Both teams have shown the ability to have sustained drives.
• 22:08
  Again, that's why I think fourth down's gonna be critical.
• 22:11
  We are not gonna have the ball as much as we have had these last several games.
• 22:15
  So we have to make everything count, and as a result I think it's gonna be a fairly low scoring game.
• 22:20
  Yeah.
• 22:21
  I think whoever gets to 24 first wins the game.
• 22:25
  I sort of agree with that, but I wanna say if we get a interception or something or a takeaway, we have to capitalize on it because that's an extra possession for us.
• 22:37
  We have to be able to go up two scores in this game.
• 22:40
  I think whoever goes up two scores first has the most likely chance to win.
• 22:45
  I think it would be awesome for us to defer if we win the coin toss.
• 22:49
  I think that'd be fairly- I think- crucial.
• 22:50
  I think that's generally what we do.
• 22:51
  Yeah, I know, but- Yeah especially for this game.
• 22:54
  Yeah, I'd It'd be nice to be able to- Just'cause- know what's happening- Yeah in the second half immediately, so.
• 22:58
  Set the tone.
• 23:00
  Set the tone.
• 23:01
  All right.
• 23:01
  So let, we'll get Ry and Liz on the phone and talk to them a little about what they're thinking about for BYU, and let's go get those guys.
• 23:12
  joining us today on this episode of Domer and Sons, I've got my two teammates from Notre Dame.
• 23:19
  We were in the same class with each other, Liz Rice and Ry Bevil.
• 23:24
  Liz, currently lives in Lancaster.
• 23:27
  Lancaster.
• 23:28
  Yes, you do.
• 23:29
  PA, just outside of Philly.
• 23:32
  And then, Professor Ry Bevil lives in, Berkeley, California.
• 23:36
  Just so our listeners know, we recorded on Sunday and my technologically inept, skills here, I screwed up the recording and the audio.
• 23:48
  So these guys are gracious enough to do round two here on Thursday.
• 23:52
  So guys, thank you for being patient with me, and thank you for agreeing to come back on.
• 23:57
  Game balls from Stanford, if you can still remember what that game was.
• 24:01
  Rice, who'd you got?
• 24:02
  Offensive game ball.
• 24:04
  All right.
• 24:05
  So for offensive game ball, I have, Jonas Walton.
• 24:08
  He is the true freshman, running back.
• 24:11
  And like I mentioned, part of the reason I chose him was to honor your son, Cal, because we know that Matt loves freshmen.
• 24:19
  And, but bec- for his athletic skills, Jonas went on the 97-yard run.
• 24:24
  He had the third-longest run in offensive history, again from a freshman, which was great.
• 24:29
  and he also set the record for, the number of rushing yards in a single game by a freshman, the most by any player this year.
• 24:37
  He had 181 total yards.
• 24:40
  The other cool fact about Jonas is that, we learned he loves Legos, and he has a lot of cool Lego sets.
• 24:46
  And I actually saw a couple pictures of that after we had taped the initial pod last Sunday.
• 24:51
  And, yeah, he is like all in on the Legos.
• 24:54
  This is like a long- Are you a Lego family, Liz?
• 24:56
  Are you a Lego family?
• 24:56
  yeah.
• 24:57
  sure.
• 24:57
  I dabbled in the Legos here and there.
• 24:59
  Okay.
• 24:59
  but yeah, he's got kits and setups and all- Yeah.
• 25:01
  Our house is- Everything overrun by Lego, so I have total respect for that.
• 25:04
  Yeah.
• 25:05
  Exactly.
• 25:05
  Sy, Sy loves Legos, right?
• 25:06
  Oh, he loves Legos.
• 25:07
  Even my daughter, her, she's got them all over.
• 25:09
  I've, m- my wife has her own little city Lego collection.
• 25:12
  I've got my Star Wars and my, Lord of the Rings stuff over here.
• 25:16
  So yeah, we're all geeky out on the Legos.
• 25:18
  Nice.
• 25:19
  Oh, that's awesome.
• 25:19
  That's awesome.
• 25:21
  Beville, who do you got?
• 25:22
  Game ball.
• 25:22
  I had the same, I had the same player.
• 25:25
  And again, as I mentioned, I came at it just from a different angle.
• 25:28
  I've been high, as high on Walton for weeks now in our private texts during the game.
• 25:33
  I've been looking at more metrics type things.
• 25:35
  Even before his big debut, I'd been crunching numbers and looking at his stats, and reading a lot of things from analysts and watching, game tape.
• 25:44
  these, these folks on YouTube or former players or coaches who break down the game tape and saying Look at the off- offensive line come together.
• 25:51
  Look how they're gelling better.
• 25:53
  Look at the tight ends, how they're blocking better.
• 25:55
  So it seemed to me only a matter of time before Walton just blew it wide open, and he did.
• 26:00
  And we're only getting better, so I think this momentum's gonna carry forward.
• 26:04
  he's just a phenomenal player, and you remember Josh Adams, he broke Adams' record.
• 26:09
  And, Adams, we got a great season.
• 26:11
  We got a great three seasons out of him, and, I, Walton's gonna be better.
• 26:15
  Totally.
• 26:16
  other fun fact about Walton, he's from, outside of Atlanta.
• 26:20
  Yes.
• 26:20
  Yeah.
• 26:20
  I saw that.
• 26:21
  Yeah.
• 26:21
  He's a Georgia kid.
• 26:23
  And we, we should come back to that conversation about the wrecking ball at the end if we've got time.
• 26:27
  Yeah, absolutely.
• 26:28
  Walton's a wrecking ball.
• 26:29
  He's got- Ry's got a little physics, micro class to teach here.
• 26:32
  it's pretty awesome.
• 26:33
  Yeah, that's for sure.
• 26:34
  That's for sure.
• 26:35
  all right, Ryce, defensive game ball.
• 26:37
  I got, Boubacar Traoré.
• 26:39
  He's a senior from Boston, and I just...
• 26:42
  I maybe didn't pronounce his name right, but I love his name.
• 26:44
  I love his energy.
• 26:46
  I love that he started the Stanford game with a sack and forced fumble in the first series of the game.
• 26:50
  He had an interception in the second quarter.
• 26:53
  He brings the energy, he's a big guy, and he makes plays happen.
• 26:56
  So he's my defensive game ball.
• 26:58
  Yeah, hard to, hard to argue on that one.
• 27:01
  What about you, Ry?
• 27:02
  I had the same one.
• 27:04
  Again, watching, film tape, Landon Tengvall is one.
• 27:08
  he's a former Penn State offensive line player, does some great film breakdown.
• 27:11
  Just really entertaining if no one's seen him.
• 27:14
  And then there's another guy called The Film Guy who's really entertaining as well, and they break down the tape.
• 27:18
  And they were showing Boubacar doing some of these moves that we tend to lose on television, and you're just like,"Man, this guy's got moves that, that are just really confusing offensive linesman." And he's just gonna, he's gonna get some sacks hopefully.
• 27:32
  He's gonna cause some disruption.
• 27:33
  And when Bear Bachmeier, gets a little uncomfortable back there, he's gonna run.
• 27:38
  He's gonna, try to get some yardage, and we've got KVA there to answer that hopefully.
• 27:43
  So I just think Boubacar's gonna be causing some, some chaos, causing some havoc.
• 27:47
  Absolutely.
• 27:48
  He is, he really is the anchor of that defensive line.
• 27:50
  A, a really deep defensive line at that.
• 27:53
  all right.
• 27:54
  Wild cards.
• 27:55
  Ryce.
• 27:57
  Yeah, so I got Marcus Freeman for the wild card.
• 27:59
  He's the first coach in history to have 16 straight wins with double-digit margins, and, that is actually surpassing the legendary Knute Rockne for the record for consecutive double-digit wins- Wow which is no small feat.
• 28:13
  So I think that's pretty awesome.
• 28:15
  I love what he's doing- That's, yeah- with the program that's super impressive.
• 28:18
  Yeah, we're fortunate to have him as our head coach, that's for sure.
• 28:23
  what about you, Ry?
• 28:24
  I had Scaife, our punter, Australian rules- Yeah football player punter.
• 28:28
  I think there's gonna be some trickery in this game.
• 28:30
  I just, I sense it coming.
• 28:32
  we s- we saw that, that fake punt go bad with the, freshman wide receiver.
• 28:37
  I think his name's Braden or Robinson, something like that.
• 28:39
  Really quick kid who unfortunately took the cut up the middle instead of the outside, in which case it would've gone for a, a touchdown.
• 28:46
  So we got a very fleeting glimpse of what's possible.
• 28:49
  Scaife had a terrible game at UNC.
• 28:52
  Granted, it was pouring rain and you remember he dropped the snap on a, it was like a field goal or an extra point.
• 28:57
  but the point is, I read this somewhere, that he's different than our former Australian rules punter in that he played a different position, that translates much better to American football.
• 29:06
  So he's got some skills.
• 29:08
  Big dude.
• 29:10
  could we expect something from him?
• 29:11
  Maybe.
• 29:12
  It'd be really interesting.
• 29:13
  And I just remember that game.
• 29:14
  It was Stanford last year where our punter threw to our tight end for a touchdown.
• 29:18
  That was so fun to watch.
• 29:20
  I was live at the game.
• 29:21
  Nice.
• 29:21
  And, they like...
• 29:22
  Th- for a few years we've seen some interesting punt tricks go on, so I think we might see something.
• 29:27
  Absolutely.
• 29:28
  Yeah.
• 29:28
  Marcus isn't afraid to dial up some trickery on fourth down, Mm and I love that about him.
• 29:33
  One of the many things I love about him.
• 29:34
  I have a feeling...
• 29:35
  Yeah, I feel like you're right.
• 29:36
  we're gonna be seeing some fourth down decisions this Saturday.
• 29:40
  And, I wouldn't be surprised if he reaches into his bag of tricks again.
• 29:45
  All right.
• 29:46
  So speaking of Saturday, Provo, Utah, and- Yes yes.
• 29:52
  The reason you two are on the pod, outside of just being lovely people who I get to chat with every now and then, is that's the site of- the first swim meet the three of us ever had for Notre Dame.
• 30:07
  All right.
• 30:07
  And I think I told you guys on Sunday, and I'll just, I'll start off with this.
• 30:11
  So my own- my, my core memory from that was, we were flying in from Chicago, I believe.
• 30:18
  That's probably, we went South Bend, Chicago, Salt Lake, and when we got off the plane, there was this young girl with her dad who, as we walked off, I heard her say,"Oh, that's what Catholics look like." Like- we were, we were zoo animals who Oh, that's a leopard." Something loud.
• 30:41
  Yeah, exactly.
• 30:42
  Exactly.
• 30:42
  "I've never seen a tiger before." Yeah, that's what- Yeah Catholics look like.
• 30:46
  little did she know, little did she know.
• 30:49
  Anyways, so you know, th- th- that, that meet was a pretty remarkable meet.
• 30:54
  I can also remember warming up and being like,"Oh yeah, we're at altitude."'Cause you push off the wall and you're like,"Yeah, the, the oxygen isn't coming as quickly as I would like here." Anyways.
• 31:06
  Yeah.
• 31:06
  Yeah, so tell me about your experiences.
• 31:08
  Ry- uh, Rice, let's start with you.
• 31:10
  Tell me about what you remember- from that time So yeah, I don't have quite the, steel trap memory that some other folks have, but yes, I remember being impacted by the altitude for sure, and I remember getting to BYU's campus and searching frantically for some kind of beverage that might have h- have caffeine in it.
• 31:29
  But of course we were told that wasn't gonna happen, and that was in- indeed true.
• 31:35
  So- Not even like a Coke there was no- No.
• 31:37
  Correct.
• 31:37
  It was all caffeine-free.
• 31:38
  Yeah.
• 31:38
  All caffeine-free products in the, The vending machines, right?
• 31:42
  Thank you.
• 31:43
  Dear Lord- I g- I got you during menopause.
• 31:45
  Gets you every time.
• 31:47
  In the vending machine.
• 31:48
  Yeah, I don't really remember even what I swam, but I know that we lost the meet and, I know that we re- one thing we didn't talk about the other day was that how we rematched BYU then back in South Bend the following year, our sophomore year.
• 32:02
  I don't- So we swam them- Oh, that's right in Provo our freshman year, and then they came to South Bend our sophomore year and we, the women's team anyway, beat BYU in South Bend our sophomore year, but we did indeed lose to them.
• 32:16
  Holy cow.
• 32:16
  I don't remember that at all until you just said that.
• 32:20
  That's wild.
• 32:20
  Do you remember that, Ry?
• 32:22
  Swimming at BYU at- Vaguely at South Bend.
• 32:24
  I remember swimming at BYU, of course- Yeah but I don't remember them coming to- Yeah South Bend.
• 32:29
  Yes.
• 32:30
  No, very vaguely.
• 32:31
  And, maybe it's because you guys lost both times.
• 32:33
  the men's team lost both times.
• 32:35
  Very vaguely.
• 32:35
  Yeah.
• 32:36
  that, that was a, a recurring pattern maybe in the four years that we were there.
• 32:40
  Yeah, our sophomore year was not a great year for Notre Dame swimming.
• 32:42
  Yeah, that was a rough year.
• 32:43
  but what I think was cool, and I did not respect this or have appreciation for this when we were freshmen, was that meet, of course, it, this coincided with the first ever matchup of BYU and ND, in the pool, of course.
• 32:56
  But I don't, I may have, we've only played BYU, I think this is our ninth time ninth time.
• 33:03
  Yeah.
• 33:03
  Or I'm sorry- We've not played- this is our 10th time.
• 33:05
  This, yeah.
• 33:05
  10th time.
• 33:06
  we have not played this team with a lot of frequency, and so it's just cool that we got to experience that, and the first time they played in Provo, and we were in front of a record crowd for BYU that day.
• 33:16
  Totally.
• 33:17
  Totally.
• 33:18
  And, Ry, so you told us this on Sunday, Yeah you guys made a sign or something?
• 33:22
  Is that right?
• 33:23
  Oh, yeah.
• 33:23
  So yeah, the women's team made a sign on a sheet, because that's what people do in college.
• 33:28
  And, it says,"Go Irish, love the ND swim team," and that was what the women's team put together.
• 33:35
  Absolutely love it.
• 33:37
  and the other thing that was fun for the men's team was that, the, the current trend in men's swimming is that men go to sporting...
• 33:44
  The men's swim teams go to sporting events in their Speedos.
• 33:46
  Yeah.
• 33:47
  yeah.
• 33:47
  that's the current thing you see online.
• 33:49
  But you guys were ahead of the curve- in some ways.
• 33:52
  You didn't show up in the stands in your Speedos, but you did show up in your swim caps.
• 33:56
  Oh.
• 33:56
  So- And our shirts off.
• 33:57
  Shirts off and your shirts off.
• 33:59
  it...
• 33:59
  You guys were trying to, I don't know, hook up with some- So th- that's Matt there in the front.
• 34:03
  That's Matt.
• 34:04
  And that's me beside him.
• 34:06
  Okay.
• 34:06
  And then I think if you go one more over, that's probably Josh Saylor, and then you can see Rich Murphy back there- Yeah, Rich Murphy there- with his hat on and he doesn't have a cap on And Kevin McGruff.
• 34:15
  Yeah.
• 34:15
  he was too cool.
• 34:16
  he wore the bandana.
• 34:18
  And we did pushups too.
• 34:19
  I remember when we scored,'cause- Yeah we exported that from Notre Dame Stadium.
• 34:25
  Mm and just to slip this in there, Pete Samson, the beat writer, he's doing a, an article about, the pushup and scoring tradition in Notre Dame Stadium that goes back probably to the'80s and'90s.
• 34:36
  So I spoke to him about that instance where we actually took it somewhere else,'cause normally it's a Notre Dame Stadium thing.
• 34:42
  But we, we- Oh, you're so right.
• 34:43
  Yeah.
• 34:44
  Yeah but we exported that to BYU Stadium, and we were doing that, doing the pushups, and then as we were like really obnoxious because we were standing out.
• 34:51
  The, Notre Dame was beating them, and then they announced the score of the swim meet.
• 34:54
  We lost, and the whole stadium erupted in laughter and was pointing at us.
• 34:57
  It was very humiliating.
• 34:59
  So we were put in our place after being obnoxious.
• 35:02
  doing pushups with your shirt off and- Swim caps on and swim caps.
• 35:06
  we were just being obnoxious, and these are well-behaved Mormons, and- we got our comeuppance.
• 35:11
  Yeah.
• 35:11
  Th- that little girl in the airport was right.
• 35:13
  Those Catholics.
• 35:14
  Yeah.
• 35:14
  Rice, I think I can remember you were often the designated pushup person because not only were you strong, but you- were a little bit lighter to get up in the air.
• 35:25
  Yeah.
• 35:25
  Yeah.
• 35:25
  And- Yeah, that's true and Gallo the next year,'cause remember how strong she was?
• 35:29
  Oh.
• 35:29
  Linda Gallo.
• 35:30
  Yeah.
• 35:30
  She could do those one-armed pushups.
• 35:32
  She was just- Yeah, Gallo could take me on so strong.
• 35:34
  Yeah.
• 35:34
  Yeah.
• 35:35
  But that's right.
• 35:35
  I forgot, Liz, you were up there on the pushup stand- For sure this week.
• 35:39
  This g- it's a common- Yeah, I've done that.
• 35:40
  I did that recently even, but yeah.
• 35:42
  Woo.
• 35:42
  Oh, wow.
• 35:43
  Takes some effort.
• 35:45
  Yeah.
• 35:45
  Common thread is the, those distance swimmers, Love it.
• 35:48
  Yep.
• 35:49
  Love it.
• 35:50
  What about you, Ry?
• 35:51
  Tell me, uh, so we talked about this on Sunday, but- what I rec- I, it actually came to my head as soon, as we were talking about this stuff, was you might have been the only person on the team who won any events in that- Oh, right meet against BYU.
• 36:05
  So yeah.
• 36:07
  What do you remember- We- about that weekend?
• 36:09
  so I remember at the airport our captain, Kevin McGruff, he, pilfered your airplane ticket and you were looking around as we were about- they were starting to, board.
• 36:17
  And you're like,"Where's my ticket?" And I was like,"Oh my God, you lost your ticket?
• 36:21
  Liz, you're not gonna be able to ride the plane." and McGruff was just hassling you.
• 36:24
  And you were almo- you weren't quite hysterical, but you were clearly alarmed, and then he fished it out of his pocket ha.
• 36:29
  I- And- Yeah, that did kinda drop down for me then.
• 36:31
  I'm like, yeah, they love to antagonize, right?
• 36:33
  Yeah.
• 36:34
  And I was unfortunately a, a good candidate for it.
• 36:37
  Yeah.
• 36:37
  So that, that's how things started off, and then of course, we get to the swim meet.
• 36:41
  I, it was a, a long form or a 16-event format.
• 36:44
  Yeah, 16-event format.
• 36:44
  So I did the 100 and two- Rice, I guarantee you, you swam like the 1,000 and the 400 IM.
• 36:49
  Yeah.
• 36:49
  Something, yeah.
• 36:49
  I probably did, and this is probably why I remember the altitude being a barrier because, you swim the 1,000 at altitude when you're used to swimming it like at sea level, and it's quite different.
• 36:59
  Yeah.
• 36:59
  For sure.
• 37:00
  For sure.
• 37:00
  Sorry to interrupt, Ry.
• 37:01
  Yeah, no worries.
• 37:02
  No, wait, so I s- I swam 100 and 200 butterfly.
• 37:05
  I won them.
• 37:05
  'cause I do have a picture.
• 37:07
  It was my first picture of the swimming meet standing on the blocks with me holding up two number one, fingers like,"Hey, number one." And I seem to remember going to 1:55 in the 200 fly, maybe a 52.
• 37:18
  And I remember at Brigham Young, I hear this like cry from the, the s- like up in the stands,"Ry." And I look up and it was a, a young woman who I grew up with in my neighborhood back in Richmond, Virginia who was on the club, the neighborhood swim team with me growing up.
• 37:31
  Her name was Mary Otten.
• 37:33
  And it was like,"Oh my gosh, Mary Otten." I just, I had forgotten that she was Mormon and ended up at BYU.
• 37:37
  So it's kinda cool for her to see me,"Oh, here's Ry, I remember him on the swim team growing up.
• 37:42
  he was pretty good." And like it was just a cool moment to see that.
• 37:45
  And she called her parents,"You wouldn't believe this.
• 37:46
  I saw Ry at the swim meet." And they called my dad, and my dad's like,"Yeah, I heard you won at the swim meet." it was kinda cool.
• 37:52
  A real small town moment.
• 37:54
  those are my, my, my big memories from the meet.
• 37:56
  I love it.
• 37:56
  I love it.
• 37:57
  No, it was special.
• 37:58
  the only one we haven't brought up is the member of our team that- Mm got kicked out of the stadium a few times.
• 38:03
  Does this- four times.
• 38:05
  Does this go on the podcast?
• 38:07
  Yeah.
• 38:07
  I have a feeling that, I think Haley- we don't have to name people we don't have to name people, but I think Haley might wanna want to have this, commemorated.
• 38:15
  Yeah.
• 38:16
  we might have had to, liberate, one of the members of the swim team who had- been graciously asked by the BYU stadium staff to tone it down a little bit.
• 38:28
  And, yeah, after the third time, they took him off campus somewhere where he could just relax a little bit and wait for some- folks to, come over and, maybe there were some donations of some funds that, we had all been fortunate enough to have to nourish ourselves- Yeah while we were there that, Yeah we had.
• 38:46
  we, I remember Kevin coming around,"Everyone listen, your stipends.""Everyone's gotta cough it up.
• 38:50
  We need the money to-" one, so we had to cough up our stipends for the trip to- Yeah So- Supposedly that's what it's, it was for, You never know with- Yeah, Yeah, with those guys, definitely not.
• 39:02
  Those guys all went into finance, we know.
• 39:04
  I don't know.
• 39:05
  Yeah.
• 39:05
  Can't trust those guys.
• 39:07
  Now- So Rose, the other sto- Rose, the other story you gotta tell is about the Zorching.
• 39:11
  Oh, yeah.
• 39:13
  Oh, that's right.
• 39:13
  yeah, yeah.
• 39:13
  Rice, you've showed that picture of us with our shirts off and our swim caps on, and, there was a, I, I, what did I call it?
• 39:21
  A ritual.
• 39:22
  It was definitely not- Yeah hazing.
• 39:24
  There was a ritual.
• 39:24
  No, that never happened.
• 39:25
  Never.
• 39:26
  Yeah.
• 39:26
  There was never hazing.
• 39:28
  No one on the swim team ever got hazed, but we had certain rituals.
• 39:31
  and- one of these- Rites of passage rites of passage.
• 39:34
  Thank you.
• 39:34
  Absolutely.
• 39:35
  Mm-hmm and I went through my rite of passage at, Lavell Edwards Stadium in that October of 1993.
• 39:43
  That's the other thing we haven't said.
• 39:44
  This is October of 1993.
• 39:46
  This is 33 years ago, guys.
• 39:47
  October 16th- Wow to be exact.
• 39:49
  October s- oh my gosh.
• 39:51
  We are so old.
• 39:53
  Yep.
• 39:53
  This is nuts.
• 39:54
  Yeah, right?
• 39:54
  I mean- this is nuts.
• 39:56
  Yeah.
• 39:57
  So yeah, so 33 years ago, yeah, I was still 18 at the time, and- eh, what happens is, a bunch of the guys on the team started kinda gathering around me in the stands and, my, naive brain was saying like,"Oh my gosh,""Everybody's kinda, hanging out.
• 40:15
  this is cool.
• 40:16
  I'm having so much fun." And then they proceeded to zorch me, which was, what, purple nurple, titty twister.
• 40:23
  What did you use?
• 40:23
  What...
• 40:24
  Yeah, I- You grab a pinch of flesh and you just twist, right?
• 40:27
  And you just twist.
• 40:27
  It doesn't matter if you get the nipple or not, you just grab a piece of flesh and twist.
• 40:31
  Yes.
• 40:32
  Like- Yeah.
• 40:33
  So I got my- 15 up- 15, 16 upperclassmen at once.
• 40:37
  Totally.
• 40:38
  Oh.
• 40:38
  But you brought up a good point- Zorching you Ry, having me being the first one, I think I was the first one that year.
• 40:44
  Oh.
• 40:45
  yeah.
• 40:45
  I got it out of the way.
• 40:46
  So what happens is i- as, it, when you're a freshman and as these zorching rituals go forward, and each person gets knocked out, you start getting really nervous'cause like- When's my time coming?
• 40:58
  When's my time coming?
• 40:59
  when are they coming for me?
• 41:00
  Yeah, totally.
• 41:01
  And Br- Ry, you got yours at the airport when we got back to South Bend?
• 41:04
  so I'd actually, if you remember, I enrolled at, at, at Notre Dame in the spring that year before.
• 41:09
  It was just a weird thing.
• 41:10
  So I got zorched at, one of the house parties, that year before.
• 41:14
  So I was in the clear.
• 41:15
  But on the way home, I think Rich Murphy got zorched on the baggage claim.
• 41:20
  he was just tackled.
• 41:22
  I remember Rich getting tackled onto the baggage claim, or it was at the baggage claim and maybe at, there was just so many people they fell onto the baggage claim.
• 41:30
  But Rich, I'm pretty sure was zorched in the airport at, as we were waiting for the baggage after coming home from that year.
• 41:36
  Oh, that's pretty sure.
• 41:37
  Oh my gosh.
• 41:38
  So- I might see Rich Murphy this weekend, so I'll have to- Then you'll have to confirm that Oh, nice yeah, I'll have to confirm it.
• 41:43
  Nice.
• 41:43
  Yeah.
• 41:44
  that's awesome.
• 41:45
  That's awesome.
• 41:46
  Yeah.
• 41:47
  I'm super psyched that, game day is gonna be in Provo on Saturday.
• 41:51
  yeah.
• 41:51
  Yeah.
• 41:52
  Like- That's a big deal yeah, I, it's probably never been in Provo before, and it will be interesting to see what kind of crowd they've got there.
• 42:00
  Because one thing that Alyssa Peterson remembers, because she has a freaking steel trap memory too, kind of like Ry, is she's like,"Don't you remember how when we were there, that the only tailgater that we could possibly find was an alumni, ND Alumni Association tent?" Yes.
• 42:19
  I actually remember that.
• 42:21
  That's great.
• 42:21
  Okay.
• 42:22
  I do remember that.
• 42:23
  Yeah.
• 42:24
  So that'll be interesting to see, what's the tailgate scene like in 2026 in Provo, Utah for- Oh, yeah a top 10 matchup.
• 42:33
  Yeah.
• 42:34
  And how is that different from 1993?
• 42:37
  Totally.
• 42:38
  I wonder if, they get all hopped up on Pixy Stix or something.
• 42:41
  Fun Dip.
• 42:42
  they're not getting hopped up on caffeine or beer, apparently.
• 42:45
  No.
• 42:46
  Yeah.
• 42:46
  They can't have alcohol either.
• 42:48
  Just mainline some sugar, Just get all riled, fired up.
• 42:52
  Totally.
• 42:52
  Get all rowdy.
• 42:53
  Yeah, no doubt.
• 42:55
  No doubt.
• 42:55
  You know what?
• 42:56
  All right.
• 42:57
  What's that?
• 42:57
  Trivia?
• 42:58
  Trivia time.
• 42:58
  Remember- Let's...
• 42:58
  let's go scores.
• 42:59
  Let's go scores first.
• 43:00
  Oh, Let's do that.
• 43:01
  All right.
• 43:02
  All right all right.
• 43:02
  Rice.
• 43:04
  I got Notre Dame 31, BYU 17.
• 43:07
  Awesome.
• 43:08
  Yeah?
• 43:09
  Yeah.
• 43:09
  So then- I think we're gonna show up.
• 43:11
  I think we're gonna play well.
• 43:12
  I think, they might challenge us.
• 43:14
  Maybe it takes a second half for us to come out and kind of game, correct some.
• 43:17
  But I think we're gonna pull away and I think we're gonna, score the W.
• 43:22
  I love it.
• 43:22
  Bring home the W.
• 43:23
  I could- Yeah I could go...
• 43:24
  I'd be happy with that outcome.
• 43:26
  Yeah.
• 43:27
  Ry, what do you think?
• 43:28
  What do you got?
• 43:28
  I had 17-30.
• 43:30
  Okay and I...
• 43:31
  With that 30, a weird way to get there.
• 43:33
  I, I feel like there's gonna be something, if not a safety, then some kind of weird maybe like a two-point conver- Some, some unusual way that we get to 30.
• 43:42
  17, maybe that's a late score by BYU.
• 43:45
  I think the issue with BYU, they're not in offensive firepower, and if we get to a certain point, 24 or something, it's just gonna be hard for them to catch up.
• 43:55
  Maybe they make a mistake pushing it and we get a defensive touchdown.
• 43:58
  but I think 30-17's a- I think that's where it's gonna be, in that area I think that's a great commentary there t- from both y'all.
• 44:06
  All right, Ry, let's get, give us a little science, physics TED Talk.
• 44:11
  Yeah.
• 44:11
  I, I don't know anything about the X's and O's of football any more than your average armchair person, but there are some, hard numbers you can look at that I always thought was interesting.
• 44:20
  you would...
• 44:21
  We all know that speed doesn't necessarily translate to production.
• 44:26
  you can look at Kyren Williams.
• 44:27
  He didn't have a great 40 at the combine, and he's one of the best running backs in the NFL.
• 44:32
  We've had speedsters who've never quite panned out, so you know, it happens.
• 44:36
  But in general, you would rather have a talented athlete, somebody who's fast, maybe somebody who's big.
• 44:42
  And so I just started going back over the last few years, and this is trivia that I ask, and we'll give people a, a few seconds before we give the answer.
• 44:51
  But who in the last, 20, 30 years was the fastest player for NFL football?
• 44:55
  Dun, dun.
• 44:56
  Ry, Rice, who do you got?
• 44:59
  Rocket is, I could only think of Rocket yeah, Rocket Yeah.
• 45:01
  Yeah, Rocket.
• 45:02
  And I don't have my...
• 45:03
  Maybe I do have the, I, I had it all on a note card over on my desk.
• 45:06
  But Rocket had a- Yeah, you did had a smoking fast, 40 time.
• 45:10
  He was also, if anyone remembers, he was a track athlete at Notre Dame his sophomore year.
• 45:15
  He had a pretty good 100 time.
• 45:18
  And oh, I do have it here.
• 45:19
  Course he did.
• 45:20
  So Rocket, yeah, he had a, like a 10.3 hundred, hundred, hundred yard, dash or 100 meter, whatever.
• 45:27
  That's impressive.
• 45:28
  and so I went back and was looking up the fastest players.
• 45:31
  You can get that information online, get some AI to pull it up for you.
• 45:35
  And then, like in the last, since we've been watching football a, a lot in the last, 10, 15 years, who's been the fastest player that you can remember over the last 10, 15 years?
• 45:46
  Oh.
• 45:46
  Brian Kelly, Marcus Freeman are one of the fastest that at least I remember.
• 45:50
  Oh, it had to be that, one of those, one of those wide receivers.
• 45:53
  Yeah, yep.
• 45:54
  oh gosh.
• 45:55
  Of course my 51-year-old brain is completely- Yeah creeping out here.
• 46:01
  Yeah, gotchu.
• 46:01
  I don't got anything.
• 46:02
  Golden?
• 46:03
  I- It's Will Fuller.
• 46:03
  Will Fuller.
• 46:04
  Will Fuller.
• 46:04
  yeah.
• 46:04
  Oh, yeah, he was great.
• 46:06
  He was fast.
• 46:07
  Yeah.
• 46:07
  6.1, 184.
• 46:08
  Rocket was 5'10", 175.
• 46:10
  So these are mean runners.
• 46:12
  And, Will Fuller had a, a 4.32.
• 46:14
  He was, I think, the fastest wide receiver at the combine.
• 46:16
  Phew.
• 46:17
  and I went through, another fast one, fast guy from the last 10 years was Braden Lindsey.
• 46:23
  he didn't- Oh, yeah have the most productive career,'cause he was plagued with hamstring in- injuries.
• 46:27
  But you probably remember he did a pretty awesome jet sweep against USC one year and just smoked them all.
• 46:33
  He had some other, burner touchdowns.
• 46:35
  He was a track athlete, 10.6 in high school.
• 46:39
  and again, Rocket was 10.3 w- with university level training.
• 46:43
  So Braden was pretty damn fast.
• 46:45
  I think he ran a 4.4 40 according to the records I was able to pull up while at Notre Dame.
• 46:51
  Love- I looked this up, man.
• 46:54
  I had no idea he was so big.
• 46:55
  Six feet tall, 212 pounds.
• 46:57
  Yeah.
• 46:57
  That's a big running back.
• 46:58
  Yeah, he's- That's like Josh Adams height.
• 47:00
  And he had a 4.36, so not that much slower than Will Fuller or Rocket.
• 47:06
  Then I pulled up everyone on our team.
• 47:08
  you've got Walton, Nolan James, Aeneas Williams, Ke- Keedren Young, Javion Osborne.
• 47:14
  Looked up their height and weight.
• 47:16
  And, Aeneas Williams, 5'10", 2, 5'10", 210 pounds.
• 47:20
  Only a 4.46.
• 47:22
  I say only, but that's not blazing fast.
• 47:25
  So like we expect that, okay?
• 47:26
  He doesn't have, he doesn't have the full-out speed.
• 47:29
  He's a Ky- more like a Kyren Williams type.
• 47:32
  not fast, he's good.
• 47:33
  He's a good, probably a good receiver.
• 47:35
  He's a good receiver sort of thing.
• 47:36
  He's good yards after contact too, right?
• 47:38
  Yeah.
• 47:38
  Yeah.
• 47:38
  Yeah.
• 47:39
  So Walton, 5'9", 214 pounds.
• 47:43
  He ran a 10.6, I think his junior or senior year in high school.
• 47:48
  So that's up th- that's right there, that's faster than Braden Lindsey And again, Rocket was 10.34 with college training.
• 47:57
  So we're talking m- approaching Rocket speed, Walton is.
• 48:03
  if he were a track athlete or competing with that, he would probably be that fast.
• 48:07
  But he's 215 pounds compared to Rocket's 175.
• 48:11
  That is a very fast running back.
• 48:14
  So it translates somewhere to a 4.3, 4.4 type speed.
• 48:21
  So that's fast.
• 48:21
  that's a really fast running back.
• 48:23
  And we saw that on that 97 yard run.
• 48:26
  Mm-hmm just speeding.
• 48:27
  100%.
• 48:27
  So then I got really fun.
• 48:29
  I was...
• 48:29
  I was like, what would it feel like- if one of these guys can reach top end speed at about 25 yards?
• 48:35
  So Walton comes full speed through the line, he hits a hole, and you're the poor safety back there- that's staring down this guy running at you however fast, like 22 miles an hour, 214 pounds.
• 48:46
  What does that feel like?
• 48:48
  And so I got, AI to crunch some numbers.
• 48:51
  I wanted to see how many joules of energy was created Oh my God when a 5'9", 214 pound guy going a 4.3 40 after, coming through the hole hits you.
• 49:02
  and it was like,"Oh, 4,300 to 5,000 some joules." I was like, what is that?
• 49:06
  Give me an analogy." It said,"Imagine you have 150 pound wrecking ball, and it's dropped from a height of 20 feet.
• 49:15
  And imagine it hitting a wall." So you are the safety who's trying to be a wall, and 150 pound wrecking ball comes from a height of 20 feet swinging at you.
• 49:26
  That is the amount of energy that hits you if Walton hits you full on.
• 49:31
  So you're like,"Okay, he's fast.
• 49:33
  He's got the moves.
• 49:35
  But this guy can just wreck people if he hits them full on." So like safeties...
• 49:39
  and it's funny'cause I was walking home today listening to Marcus Freeman break down game tape.
• 49:44
  And they're saying,"Okay, watch this, that, and the other.
• 49:46
  We created this." It's really cool.
• 49:47
  there's like a video series on YouTube.
• 49:48
  You can watch, Freeman break down tape for 10 minutes, and it's really interesting.
• 49:53
  And he said,"I saw...
• 49:54
  I couldn't see how close so and so was, but when I saw that it was Walton on a safety, I was like,'Oh, that's, it's...
• 50:01
  Yeah, good luck to the safety.'" Yeah.
• 50:03
  That's right.
• 50:03
  Here comes the wrecking ball.
• 50:05
  Fre- Freeman's just"Yeah, whatever.
• 50:06
  Yeah, whatever." But that's when our running backs get loose,'cause our running backs are big and they're fast.
• 50:13
  and Freeman has recruited athletes, as we saw with Bubacar But Nolan James, he's 5'10", 215.
• 50:20
  He's a big dude.
• 50:21
  like he looks small, but that is a, like a guy you don't wanna be a, a linebacker having to try to stop coming through full speed at the line.
• 50:30
  And Keidron Young, who unfortunately, was injured last year, we haven't gotten to see much of him.
• 50:34
  we might not ever.
• 50:35
  He's 5'11", 234.
• 50:37
  Oh, good gracious.
• 50:37
  That's a big guy.
• 50:39
  So it's could we use him like an Audric Estime short yardage punch it through kind of guy?
• 50:44
  You remember Tommy Rees was using like a tight end to Mitch Evans, I think it was.
• 50:49
  Yeah.
• 50:49
  So we've got a really good running back room, and they've been poo-pooed'cause the first few weeks they weren't doing well.
• 50:55
  But, the tape is showing that the, the line is coming together.
• 50:59
  We...
• 50:59
  They seem to have figured out, what we need to do.
• 51:02
  so it's gonna...
• 51:03
  I think it's gonna be an exciting game, and the running backs- Oh, I'm so psyched are just gonna continue to produce for the rest of the year.
• 51:08
  Yeah.
• 51:08
  I'm like, I'm fired up, man.
• 51:10
  when you don't have to work and it's on a Saturday night and it's primetime, but not quite too late, like this is gonna be, it's gonna be fun.
• 51:17
  It's gonna be great.
• 51:18
  Yeah.
• 51:18
  I can't wait.
• 51:18
  It would be more fun if we were all in Provo together again, though.
• 51:21
  Oh, I'm sorry.
• 51:22
  I'll give you that.
• 51:22
  It's what?
• 51:23
  33 years later.
• 51:24
  33 years- Yeah and one day later.
• 51:27
  Guys, thanks so much- Yep for joining us.
• 51:29
  and thanks so much- No worries for doing take two here.
• 51:32
  I really appreciate it.
• 51:32
  Hell yeah.
• 51:33
  Let's go, baby.
• 51:34
  I know.
• 51:34
  Go Irish.
• 51:35
  It's great to talk to you guys tw- twice in one week.
• 51:38
  very special, so thank you.
• 51:39
  Yeah.
• 51:39
  Good to see you.
• 51:41
  Yeah.
• 51:41
  Awesome, awesome.
• 51:44
  Really appreciate them spending a little bit extra time with us.
• 51:48
  Always fun to talk to old teammates of mine.
• 51:52
  Starting 11 All right.
• 51:57
  All right, let's do Starting 11.
• 51:59
  I think we're gonna change up the format maybe after this last round.
• 52:03
  Yeah.
• 52:03
  Yeah.
• 52:03
  But, what we're gonna do Starting 11.
• 52:06
  Calvin, you're up.
• 52:07
  Yep.
• 52:08
  Have you guys picked your player?
• 52:09
  Oh, yeah.
• 52:09
  We've picked a player.
• 52:12
  All right, we got our player.
• 52:14
  Just a real quick recap of the rules of the game.
• 52:17
  Two of us agree on a player, and then one or two deep in the current Notre Dame roster, and the other person has 11 questions to figure out who that player is.
• 52:29
  All right.
• 52:30
  Cal, you're up.
• 52:32
  Is this player on offense?
• 52:34
  Yes.
• 52:35
  Yes.
• 52:37
  Is this player a second string?
• 52:40
  Yes.
• 52:42
  Is this player- A sophomore or lower?
• 52:48
  No, he's not a center fielder.
• 52:50
  All right.
• 52:50
  Is this player a skill position?
• 52:53
  No.
• 52:54
  No.
• 52:54
  Okay, so Dallas Prescott is out, uh, now and Strepek.
• 52:59
  So Am is out And we already did Devin Houston.
• 53:04
  Is this player Owen Striebig?
• 53:09
  No You said it weird.
• 53:12
  It's undisputable No, it's not.
• 53:13
  No, it's not.
• 53:14
  No, it's not Dude No, it's fine.
• 53:16
  That's not the rules.
• 53:18
  That's happened before.
• 53:18
  We've done, we've done that before.
• 53:21
  All right?
• 53:21
  Just let him guess Keep guessing, though Is this player Devin Houston?
• 53:28
  Yes.
• 53:28
  Yes.
• 53:29
  Nice one, man.
• 53:31
  That, that's who we did last week.
• 53:33
  Not last week.
• 53:34
  Yes, literally last week.
• 53:36
  That's who I got last week.
• 53:37
  Well...
• 53:40
  I- Well, that's- It's a trick.
• 53:43
  Well, it is Halloween.
• 53:44
  I got it in five.
• 53:45
  You got it in five.
• 53:46
  All right, yeah.
• 53:47
  Clearly, we gotta, we gotta revise this segment, guys.
• 53:51
  We gotta do something different.
• 53:52
  We'll change it up.
• 53:53
  All right?
• 53:54
  W- nicely done.
• 53:55
  Nicely done.
• 53:56
  All right.
• 53:56
  Hey, kind of a wild weekend coming up again for William and I.
• 54:00
  William's got two soccer games in Tennessee, so we're heading up to Tennessee, and we're probably gonna be watching the game on the road.
• 54:08
  My former teammate, who's associate head coach with the Tennessee Volunteer swim team, has graciously, um- Shack Gotten us two tickets for the Alabama-Tennessee game.
• 54:18
  So after William plays his first soccer game, we're gonna run over to Neyland, go check out that game, and get in the car and head our way towards Nashville.
• 54:26
  So we'll probably be watching the game in the road, which will be a blast, but- Tennessee in advance, uh, thank you, Murph.
• 54:32
  Tennessee.
• 54:34
  Ain't no place I'd rather be, baby Calvin, where are you gonna be?
• 54:40
  Where are you gonna be this weekend?
• 54:41
  I'm gonna be at home, but you know, last week I was- With who?
• 54:44
  Home with who?
• 54:45
  Me and you Mom.
• 54:46
  Hi, Mom.
• 54:46
  Yeah, but last week, you know, I was, on the field while you were, at home, so, you know, it's a little different.
• 54:54
  But I'm not gonna start any rivalry.
• 54:56
  All right.
• 54:57
  No.
• 54:57
  We're- I think we do BYU- Next week, next week we're gonna do mid-year, some mid-year grades.
• 55:01
  Yep, mid-year grades, and also recap BYU.
• 55:03
  And recap BYU.
• 55:04
  Yep, and, don't forget to follow us on Instagram, domer slat- or underscore and underscore sons, and send us a question at our email, domer.and.sons@gmail.com, and subscribe to us, and hit that post notification bell.
• 55:26
  Uh, yeah, nothing else.
• 55:27
  Go Irish, and we will see you next week.
• 55:30
  Go Irish.