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8/24/26: Bessent Launches Economic D-Day, Jeffries Meets w/ Kushner, Flock Convention Exposed By Activists · Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar

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  Speaker 4: All right, US Treasury secretary declaring war on the world
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  Speaker 4: in the Financial Times today, Except except it didn't actually show.
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  Speaker 1: Up in the paper.
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  Speaker 5: People who are just listening to this are going to
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  Speaker 5: be so confused.
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  Speaker 4: So Scott Bessen's, the American Treasury Secretary, last night put
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  Speaker 4: out an ophaed basically saying that anybody who doesn't join
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  Speaker 4: the United States in his economic assault on Iran will
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  Speaker 4: be sent it to hell.
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  Speaker 1: Literally, that's what he wrote.
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  Speaker 4: I was hoping to find it in the paper today,
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  Speaker 4: but no, it's just an online edition.
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  Speaker 6: Only Ryan Grim Financial Times subscriber is another delightful surprise.
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  Speaker 1: It's a good paper if you're listening to this.
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  Speaker 6: Ryan just opened the show with his head behind a
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  Speaker 6: copy of the Financial Times.
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  Speaker 5: That's what the wrestling was in the background.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's a good paper because they will basically report
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  Speaker 4: the news directly because it's for people who say, own
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  Speaker 4: a mine in Senegal, and so they actually need to
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  Speaker 4: know what's going on like they don't want to be
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  Speaker 4: lied to like the New York Times audience.
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  Speaker 6: And that's where the Financial Times comes from the picture
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  Speaker 6: and Scott bestn't threatening Economic d Day, which we're going
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  Speaker 6: to break down for everyone, big show. We're also talking
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  Speaker 6: about this meeting that happened between Jared Kushner and Hakim
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  Speaker 6: Jeffries that has everyone on the Democratic Party enmeshed and
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  Speaker 6: yet another major what would we even all this conflagration?
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  Speaker 1: I guess it's just very weird is going on here.
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  Speaker 5: It's very weird.
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  Speaker 6: Flock held the convention and didn't let journalists in, and
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  Speaker 6: we have some funny video about that and more serious
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  Speaker 6: details to get to on that front as well. We're
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  Speaker 6: going to break down a crazy story about former Trump
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  Speaker 6: campaign manager Brad Parscale, Brian, Brian.
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  Speaker 5: I almost called you.
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  Speaker 6: I was saying Brad and Ryan at the same time,
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  Speaker 6: and combined with Brian, combined in to Brian, You're also
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  Speaker 6: known as Eric.
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  Speaker 1: You have many names, That's right.
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  Speaker 4: So Parscale's business partner in South America is now under
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  Speaker 4: arrest in Bolivia for hiring a hitman to kill his
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  Speaker 4: ex girlfriend. And she survived, and she is now unraveling
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  Speaker 4: he and Parscale's entire elaborate scheme that they've been unfolding with.
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  Speaker 4: You know, Brad Parscales is Raeli money. He is a
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  Speaker 4: registered foreign agent for Israel. Utterly incredible story. We're going
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  Speaker 4: to have some footage from you of power Scales partner
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  Speaker 4: sobbing in elevator surrounded by reporters.
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely wild and nobody is talking about it. Ryan.
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  Speaker 6: You also wanted to discuss this James O'Keeffe verdict, which
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  Speaker 6: appears like a pretty significant, honestly.
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  Speaker 5: Win for journalists.
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  Speaker 4: CC's a Circuit Court of Appeals ruling on behalf of O'Keefe.
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  Speaker 4: So O'Keefe versus Democracy Partners Democratic Leaning Parties, an organization
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  Speaker 4: that he basically ran a sting on pretty resounding victory
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  Speaker 4: for him, which creates some what I would say, new
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  Speaker 4: have to cheer O'Keefe, but we can cheer the O'Keefe ruling.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's I mean, it's always good to be able
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  Speaker 4: Get on board, all right. So turning to Economic d Day,
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  Speaker 4: let's do it so. Treasury Secretary Scott Besson is holding
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  Speaker 4: a two o'clock pm Eastern Time press conference at the
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  Speaker 4: Treasury Department. Hey, Treasury, I submitted from my press credentials
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  Speaker 4: for this. I have not heard back. Come on, hurry up,
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  Speaker 4: get on that. Last night he published an op ed
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  Speaker 4: in the Financial Times that the Financial Times didn't bother
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  Speaker 4: to put in their print newspaper, which is kind of interesting.
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  Speaker 4: Let's go through some of it. It's commpletely insane. Frankly,
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  Speaker 4: it doesn't look like something he wrote. I don't know
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  Speaker 4: if Ai wrote this. It makes absolutely no sense. I
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  Speaker 4: think the thrust it.
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  Speaker 1: I think what he's.
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  Speaker 4: Trying to say is that he's going to bring about
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  Speaker 4: economic isolation of Iran this afternoon. And you might say
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  Speaker 4: to yourself, wait a minute, I thought we've been doing
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  Speaker 4: that for forty seven years. I think what he's going
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  Speaker 4: to say is that he's going to then apply secondary
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  Speaker 4: sanctions to countries do business with Iran, which would.
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  Speaker 1: Be China like most particularly now.
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  Speaker 4: If you remember, back in the spring of twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 4: Trump and Bestent began their economic agenda by trying to
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  Speaker 4: in April and May of twenty twenty five, trying to
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  Speaker 4: economically isolate China. Remember they started out they put tariffs
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  Speaker 4: on everybody, and then they said, actually, we're going to
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  Speaker 4: roll back these tariffs. We're only putting tariffs on China,
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  Speaker 4: and everybody's going to join us in isolating China. And
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  Speaker 4: about two weeks later, he completely capitulated on that because
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  Speaker 4: it was an utterly stupid idea now he's going to
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  Speaker 4: try to do that with the Iran trying to bring
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  Speaker 4: China in.
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  Speaker 1: So he begins this, just like this is one.
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  Speaker 4: Of the scariest op eds I've ever read, because it's
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  Speaker 4: like this, this is a government led by complete and
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  Speaker 4: total maniacs who are divorced from reality. He starts out with,
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  Speaker 4: come on man. In nineteen forty three, the Allied Powers
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  Speaker 4: convened the Tehran Conference to plot the course of an
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  Speaker 4: uncharted act. First of all, bunch of mixed metaphors, terrible writing,
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  Speaker 4: plot the.
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  Speaker 5: Course of an untraded act?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, just what are you doing?
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  Speaker 6: Like?
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  Speaker 1: Who wrote this?
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  Speaker 4: As Roosevelt in Churchill wade a campaign that would culminate
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  Speaker 4: in the Normandy landings. They asked themselves what could be
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  Speaker 4: done quote to bring the greatest pressure to bear on
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  Speaker 4: the enemy. The only connection that this has to anything
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  Speaker 4: is Tehran.
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  Speaker 1: That the conference happened to be in Tehran? Like what
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  Speaker 1: do you like?
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  Speaker 4: So right away I'm embarrassed for them, just from a
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  Speaker 4: literary and journalistic perspective, What kind of an opening is this?
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  Speaker 1: Now?
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  Speaker 4: He goes on to say, Trump has you know, smashed
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  Speaker 4: Iran's military, it weakened its nuclear program, which he spells
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  Speaker 4: in the English way, which is always funny to see
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  Speaker 4: from an American. Now we are entering the end game,
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  Speaker 4: and you've been hearing this metaphor from JD. Vance too right,
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  Speaker 4: that we're in the endgame. Which the thing you could
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  Speaker 4: take away from this is that the US, as far
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  Speaker 4: as it is concerned, is done with its military assault
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  Speaker 4: on Iran, that they've shot everything they've got. Now they
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  Speaker 4: may get dragged into it again, but from their perspective,
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  Speaker 4: they're done with this.
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  Speaker 1: So then he goes on to talk about Pascal.
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  Speaker 4: He sure does, Emily, as our expert on Christian philosophy,
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  Speaker 4: will be able to maybe walk us through this. In
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  Speaker 4: the seventeenth century, philosopher Pascal gave enduring expression to the dilemma.
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  Speaker 4: Beneath this temptation, he understood that uncertainty does not absolve
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  Speaker 4: men or nations of divine judgment. In fact, it demands
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  Speaker 4: a more exacting appraisal of risk and imposes a higher
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  Speaker 4: price for error.
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  Speaker 1: Pascal, he goes on.
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  Speaker 4: Pascal's eponymous wager now applies to Iran's lifelines. Nations that,
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  Speaker 4: in courting reprieve from Tehran continue to replenish the very
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  Speaker 4: regime from which they seek protection and now exceed the
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  Speaker 4: limits of America's tolerance. So Glea's clearly aimed at China, Cutter, Uae, Turkey, Iraq,
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  Speaker 4: all these countries in the region that are cutting deals
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  Speaker 4: with Iran, that do business with Iran.
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  Speaker 1: Can you I have not been.
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  Speaker 4: Able to figure out how on earth Pascal's wager applies here.
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  Speaker 4: So Pascal's wager for like the people who don't know,
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  Speaker 4: is he says, Hey, there may or may not be
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  Speaker 4: a god, right, we don't know, But think about the wager.
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  Speaker 1: If there is a.
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  Speaker 4: God and you don't believe in one, and you're wrong,
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  Speaker 4: you're spending eternity in hell. If there is not a
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  Speaker 4: god and you believe in one, well you led a
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  Speaker 4: religious life and then you die and nothing happens, no harm,
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  Speaker 4: no foul. So from his perspective, given those two rational choices,
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  Speaker 4: you might as well just believe, because what do you
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  Speaker 4: have to lose.
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  Speaker 1: How does this apply here?
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  Speaker 5: It doesn't, It doesn't.
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  Speaker 4: It has to There has to be somewhere in his
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  Speaker 4: mind to be honest.
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  Speaker 6: If we bring this back to the opening graph, the
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  Speaker 6: lead of the saab Ed, it seems to me like
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  Speaker 6: what they know. They're really saying is they've exhausted their
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  Speaker 6: military options to your point, and they're now trying to
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  Speaker 6: very flamboyantly declare some speech writer was trying to make
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  Speaker 6: a very poetic rendering.
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  Speaker 4: Is this because the Iranians are constantly citing poets.
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  Speaker 5: And probably that's probably exactly what it is.
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  Speaker 1: Like we know one Pascal that can had a wager.
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  Speaker 1: They say it.
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  Speaker 4: Then, so Besin or whoever wrote this says, at the end,
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  Speaker 4: the world should understand that our objective is to sever
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  Speaker 4: every economic lifeline that sustains the tyrannical regime until Tehran
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  Speaker 4: stands alone. Pascal considered salvation to be a choice. As
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  Speaker 4: a great wave of American resolve comes ashore, are Irans
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  Speaker 4: and nablers willing to wager their future against it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is what I think.
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  Speaker 6: This is an important graph in this it's probably on
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  Speaker 6: a thousand words. The alternative for those who tended themselves
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  Speaker 6: to Tehran is the foreclosure of any path to lasting prosperity.
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  Speaker 6: Elicit financi will flourish, as it so often does where
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  Speaker 6: confidence has collapsed, and any nation that serves as the
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  Speaker 6: financial artery of a withering regime should expect to share
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  Speaker 6: in its isolation, to become a sanctuary for terrorists, to become,
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  Speaker 6: in the eyes of the United States, a global pariah.
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  Speaker 6: He goes on to say, the President has created the
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  Speaker 6: conditions to leverage every agency authority action many in every
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  Speaker 6: action that many assumed we would never summon. This is
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  Speaker 6: I think why they felt confident, stretching to Pascal's wager, saying, well,
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  Speaker 6: if if there's a United States God in the geopolitical stage,
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  Speaker 6: wouldn't you be smarter to just act as though wouldn't
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  Speaker 6: it be more rational to act as though the United
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  Speaker 6: States is God? Yeah, is going to use its godlike
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  Speaker 6: powers over the economic well being of the globe.
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  Speaker 4: That's so, that was what I thought they meant. But
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  Speaker 4: the problem with that is it's a hell of a stretch.
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  Speaker 4: Let's say a raq take a Rack for example, is
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  Speaker 4: presented with this Pascal's wager. You either believe that America
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  Speaker 4: is God or America is not God. So you believe
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  Speaker 4: America's God, and then you several ties with Iran. That
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  Speaker 4: is completely different than Pascal's wager, which is you go
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  Speaker 4: to church and you believe in God like. There's not
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  Speaker 4: a whole lot of cost, he's saying, and in fact
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  Speaker 4: actually a benefit because you live a.
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  Speaker 1: Better, more fulfilling life.
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  Speaker 4: Iraq, by cutting itself off from Iran, would be devastating
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  Speaker 4: its own economy. Pascal never said it, You should devastate
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  Speaker 4: your own economy. He has, just in the off chance
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  Speaker 4: that the United States is God.
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  Speaker 6: So right right, He says, any remaining tie to Turan
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  Speaker 6: will hasten the economic ostracism of countries and entities, whether
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  Speaker 6: that tie be purposefully constructed.
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  Speaker 5: Or willfully ignored.
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  Speaker 6: And if as the regimes grasp on power crumbles alongside
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  Speaker 6: its economy, Iran resorts to military action against US forces
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  Speaker 6: or its golf neighbors make the mistake, President Trump will
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  Speaker 6: respond swiftly and decisively. So pulled up Iran's biggest import
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  Speaker 6: partners at least, says of twenty twenty four, by far
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  Speaker 6: and away, the biggest was China for Turkey, and then
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  Speaker 6: Brazil almost tied with Turkey and Brazil, then after that
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  Speaker 6: Germany and India.
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  Speaker 4: If you, if you're Trump and you actually could do this,
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't you have done this before going to war?
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  Speaker 6: Well? Indeed, the same map ed talks about how Trump
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  Speaker 6: has crippled the Irani and economy. So this is an
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  Speaker 6: not beed that again, I think is some speech writer,
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  Speaker 6: very or some obed writer, very flamboyantly is trying to
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  Speaker 6: cover up for the factor, is trying to stretch this
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  Speaker 6: into an active power to say, we've exhausted all of
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  Speaker 6: our military options. We don't want to lose more American
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  Speaker 6: troops on the ground, and now what we're going to
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  Speaker 6: do is make a really serious threat of economic d day.
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  Speaker 4: Well, there is one entity, however, who is abiding by
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  Speaker 4: the boycott of the entire region, and that is the
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  Speaker 4: American military.
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  Speaker 1: Let's put up a two.
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  Speaker 4: Here's that one of these generals appears on MSNBC Barry McCaffrey.
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  Speaker 1: In my judgment, the US armed forces have.
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  Speaker 4: Probably permanently lost access to fifteen Persian golf bases around
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  Speaker 4: now poised to control access to the Gulf States, US
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  Speaker 4: will have to negotiate new access in western Saudi Arabia, Israel,
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  Speaker 4: Southern Europe. So the US at least is taking the
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  Speaker 4: best wager, well, saying, you know what, fine, the best
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  Speaker 4: we will we will be nowhere near Iran.
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  Speaker 6: Lady clear at the Pentagon, Yes, we got your boss.
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  Speaker 5: Well, A one points.
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  Speaker 6: Out this is scary muchI of all people pointing out
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  Speaker 6: us is Abraham Lincoln's resupply problems were in a mystery
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  Speaker 6: Iran hit NSA, Bahrain, that's the fifth Fleet's main logistics
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  Speaker 6: hub hard in February, and then the Navy had to
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  Speaker 6: shift to Diego, Garcia, twenty two hundred miles away instead
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  Speaker 6: of eight hundred. Transit times roughly tripled, et cetera, et cetera.
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  Speaker 5: We've been covering this for a while, but that's a
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  Speaker 5: pretty fair point.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's making a solid point.
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  Speaker 4: Now, is there some who are okay with this Iranian analyst?
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  Speaker 4: I guess we can call it an analyst on Fox News. Here,
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  Speaker 4: let's roll a three.
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  Speaker 7: What is the American appetite for increased prices on those goods?
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  Speaker 7: And you know, for me as an Iranian, a person
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  Speaker 7: of Iranian descent, and my appetite is quite high for
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  Speaker 7: high gas prices and for higher prices of goods because
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  Speaker 7: for me it's a humanitarian issue.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, she's good with higher gas prices. I hope
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  Speaker 1: you are too. So.
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  Speaker 4: Neil Kashkari, who's the one of the was Minneapolis fed
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  Speaker 4: so he recently voted against the feds dishes and decision
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  Speaker 4: to keep interest rates flat, saying that because of what's
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  Speaker 4: going on with this Iran war, it's driving so much
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  Speaker 4: inflation that they should actually be increasing in interest rates.
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  Speaker 1: Let's listen to Keshkari here.
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  Speaker 8: More data is yet to come between now and our
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  Speaker 8: next FMC meeting, So I don't want to prejudge things,
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  Speaker 8: but what's happening in the Middle East, the conflict with
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  Speaker 8: Iran is now a big driver of what's happening on inflation, because,
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  Speaker 8: as you know, energy goes into every facet of the
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  Speaker 8: US economy, and the longer that conflict, the more turmoil area,
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  Speaker 8: the longer it goes on, the bigger effected edgepath on
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  Speaker 8: the US economy and on inflation. And even if it's
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  Speaker 8: driven by geopolitical factors like that, ultimately it does affect inflation. Ultimately,
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  Speaker 8: it does have a bearing on the federal reserves mandate.
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  Speaker 1: And so the longer that goes on, the less.
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  Speaker 8: Confident I am that inflation is going to return to target.
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  Speaker 8: For five years, we've been saying inflation is going to
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  Speaker 8: return to target in the next year or two. It
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  Speaker 8: just keeps getting pushed out eventually we're going.
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  Speaker 1: To have to do more.
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  Speaker 4: So now he's saying that just as the FED is
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  Speaker 4: having its annual gathering in Jackson Hole this week. This
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  Speaker 4: is you know, it's supposed to be a sleepy summer week.
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  Speaker 4: That's often that's why they choose Jackson Halls. I guess
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: it's beautiful at this time of year. Probably can't be
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: in there too. Sure, it's not going to be sleepy
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: for them. This is not going to be a sleapy
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: week at all. I think we're going to see the
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: extraordinary amount of economic jitters, as the Financial Times like
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: to call it. People are people are absolutely panicking. Trump
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: has he put wash Kevin Warsh into the FED because
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: he wants interest.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Rates to be cut.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: Yes, but his own policies, whether it's the trade war
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: that he launched with Canada over the weekend for some reason,
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: or whether it's this Iran war, keeps driving inflation up,
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: which then puts pressure on the FED to raise interest
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: rates to get to get prices back down, but at
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: the same time increases borrowing costs and screws off the
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: housing market and you know, pulls the thread on this
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: fragile economy.
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: Trump was on this worst kick before he started the
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: Iran war. That tells you what kind of a mess
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: Trump has gotten himself into. Here, By the way, that
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: Iranian American analyst was on Mark Lebn's show, I cannot
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: even convey what a disaster it is for the supporters
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: of this war to have people going on television and
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: saying they have an appetite for higher gas prices for
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: humanitarian reasons thousands.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Of miles away.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: Also humanitarian reasons, we're going to starve ninety million people.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Is what is saying today?
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: Like that, today we're going to completely strangle the entire
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: country for humanitarian reasons.
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: We're just too good, too damn good.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: So Mike Johnson was asked whether or not they're still
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: going to win the House if this war is still
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: going on. He's been saying it's time to wrap this
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: up for a very long time.
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: He has.
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: Actually that's probably been undercovered as an aspect of this
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: is that Mike Johnson.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: He's like, Okay, we could let's wrap this.
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: He's heard from the members who have to go home
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: and defend this in the middle of the midterm cycle,
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: and they're not happy about it.
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: Mike Johnson not happy about it.
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: I mean some of them, to be fair, are happy
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: about it, but not exactly happy about how it's going
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: to say the least. Now, he was at the Fox
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: News set outside the F one race yesterday, which I
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: have to say was awesome.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: I heard it was actually well run.
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: It was beautiful.
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: My understanding is that it wasn't really run by America
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: two fifty, but it was run by Penske and that whole.
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: They kind of took over all the logistics. But it
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: looked like when you're at like a Dave and Busters
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: and you're in one of those cars, you're like driving
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: through the pyramids on an arcade. Gave.
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: It looked like that.
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: It was absolutely that looks kind of fun. Yeah, it
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: was pretty cool now. I mean I just watched it
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: on TV, but it was pretty cool.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: In the middle of all of this, Mike Johnson gets
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: asked about Fox on Fox News about Iran.
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: Here is his answer.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: A five.
• 20:32
  Speaker 9: Can Republicans do win and hold control of the House
• 20:36
  Speaker 9: if the Iran War is still going on in November.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, it would be helpful to get that thing resolved
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: in the.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Next seventy three days. But if it's not, we're still.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: Going to win that thing. It would be helpful to
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: get that thing resolved. And in the meantime, the.
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: Treasury Secretary is threatening economic d day crippling. By the way,
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: some like NATO allies if Turkey is a massive trading
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: partner with Iran, If that's actually going to happen, we're
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: going to start strangling other people's economies as well, because
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: we've run out of military options and have already sanctioned
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: Iran to the hilt.
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: Mike Johnson, I don't think that thing is going.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: To be wrapped up. No, it's not looking good.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: Not looking good.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: Meanwhile, one of the sailors on the who is still
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: suffering with this two hundred and fifty plus days on
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: the Lincoln, his father was detained by ice can put
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: up a six and the Department of Hollam Security responded
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: to this.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: There were a couple of ways they could respond to this.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: They could say nothing at all, out of respect for
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: the sailor who's out serving his country right now. They
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: could even say, you know what, we're going to release
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: this guy because he has a valid work permit, he's
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: been following all the rules, he has an active asylum
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: clamor or whatever his particular situation is. Instead, they put
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: on a statement saying, basically, fu, the fact that you're
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: serving the country doesn't give your father the right to
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: break our laws. Like that was That was their That
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: was their statement. So the father is going to just
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: continue to fight for his freedom in court while his
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: son is fighting for everybody else's freedom from whatever threat
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: Iron is allegedly.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Casting our way.
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: We'll keep an eye on that one.
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: In the meantime, let's go to another fight, the one
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: now between Hakim Jefferies and every other Democrat all help
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: broke loose after The New York Times reported we can
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: toss this up on the screen. Exclusive New York Times
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: report here from Maggie Haberman double byline Meggie Haroman and
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: Andy Karney. Jeffries and Kushner met privately as midterm attacks fly.
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: The lead of the story, it says Representative Hakim Jeffries
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: met privately in recent weeks with Jared Kushner and discussed
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: potential areas of common ground. To five people with knowledge
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: of the meeting, the rare engagement was held in a
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: private space in New York City, offered up by a
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: mutual friend of the two men. According to two people
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: with knowledge of the meeting and a third who has
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: brief done it. By the way, we shouldn't mention Jared Kushner.
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: Before Donald Trump ran as a Republican, Kushner and Evanka
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: Trump were dem donors who were hosting fundraisers for the
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: likes of Corey.
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: Booker in their own home, so.
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: Not entirely surprising that there would be a mutual friend
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: brokering this session through aids the time supports. Neither man
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: would comment on it, which was described by one person.
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: The session was described by one person with knowledge of
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: it as a broad conversation on a range of topics.
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: This set off a predictable firestorm from people who are
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: already deeply frustrated with Hakim Jeffries among Democrats, Ryan and
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: not surprising, but also not surprising that Hakim Jeffries met
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: with Jared Kushner, to be honest.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: Right, And that's why people are so frustrated with Kikiem
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: Jeffries that they would like to be surprised by this,
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: but they're not. And the fact that they're not surprised
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: by it is just another reminder that like, what's what's
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: going on here? Like this is this should be one
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: of the prime people you're going to investigate if you
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: take power. In fact, we put up B three Yeah, Tom,
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: Tommy Veeder the pod Save the World, Pod Save Jared
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: Kushner has no actual government job. He just uses his
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: family connections to get money from golf autocrats and fund
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: corrupt deals.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: The only way Rep.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: Jefferies should work with him is with demands for documents
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: and subpoenas.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, that seems pretty clear.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: That this is one of the most corrupt administration. This
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: is the most corrupt administration in American history, and he is,
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: even though he's not a part of it, is a
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: central node of that corruption. As soon as he left
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: Trump one, you know, he just cashed two billion dollars
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: check from Saudi Arabia to launch him.
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: That he's still rocket as he's negotiating deals that involve
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: Saudi Arabia.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: And the reason he's not an official part of the
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: administration is so that he doesn't have to have any
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: remote kind of.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Obligations to the public.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: And for Jeffries to still treat him like a member
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: of the administration shows that what shows that that scheme
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: on his part has worked, has effectively worked. Meanwhile, young
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: Doosey over at Fox.
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: Do you see the younger do Sy.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: The younger uh to talk to Mike Johnson, Speaker Mike
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: Johnson about this.
• 25:31
  Speaker 9: Let's roll a little that President Trump's son and law
• 25:34
  Speaker 9: and the man in line to be speaker of a
• 25:36
  Speaker 9: Democratic led House if you guys lose the majority, they
• 25:39
  Speaker 9: were together.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: What did you think when you saw that? I heard
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: about it the first time this morning.
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: I know Jared is marka.
• 25:45
  Speaker 9: And he catches bets, but I'm telling you what, you
• 25:48
  Speaker 9: better not bet against the House Republican. Does any part
• 25:51
  Speaker 9: of you think that the White House might be trying
• 25:55
  Speaker 9: to figure out which Democrats they can work with if
• 25:58
  Speaker 9: Democrats make when the House, and that is why they
• 26:01
  Speaker 9: would send Jared Kushner to meet with Jeffries.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know what that's about.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: I know Jared has interests and lots of other things
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: going on. He's not really directly involved in the admin.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: At least in the day to day in the White House.
• 26:11
  Speaker 9: Maybe Donald Trump just uses Jared Kushner to talk to
• 26:13
  Speaker 9: the really hard people to deal with, the Supreme Leader
• 26:17
  Speaker 9: of Iran or the minority leader of the House.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: Assuming how Kim can still be the minority leader.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Here's the problem. The DSA is now in charge.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: The Democrat Party, the radical Leftist, the insurgent left, the Communists,
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: the marxistm you heard it from there speaking of Mike
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: John's DSA is now in charge.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Great news for you step aside.
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well you can.
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: Here Peter Deucey is basically saying to Mike Johnson, seems
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: like the whole White House isn't actually sharing your confidence.
• 26:46
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: What does he say?
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: Don't underestimate House Republicans. Maybe they're trying to figure out
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: what could happen come fall. Apparently they talked about Kushner
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: and Jeffries talked about housing, immigration, and the high cost
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: of living as potential areas of common ground. That's according
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: to the Times report, Kushner suggested that Hakim Jeffreyes should
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: meet with Susie Wiles Ryan to your point, and actually
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: Tommy Veeters point as well. It does seem like there
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: might be an effort on Kushner's behalf to soften the
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: ground a little bit for or make it at just
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: all that much more difficult for Hakim Jeffries to trend
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: screws on Kushner and that entire wit cough Kushner operation
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: Fire Kushner.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: I certainly wouldn't be worried.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: The Democrats had four years in between Trump one and
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: Trump two, Kushner's corruption was wide open for everybody to see.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: They did absolutely nothing about it. According to Times they
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: talked about. You know, they had worked together on the
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: First Step Act, which is this the Criminal Justice reform
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: that kind of Van Jones and Kushner came together to pass,
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: and so they knew each other from that. So maybe
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: they'll get the band back together do a little bit
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: of that.
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: But I mean he should actually be worried because the
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: Johnson point about DS members coming into Congress, they will
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: make it much harder for Hakim Jeffries to skate without
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: if he chooses to go easy on Jared Kushner, that
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: genuinely will make his life a living hell.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: I would imagine we'll see not optimistic.
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: I don't know, well strength the numbers.
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's kind of what happened with Freedom Caucus
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: as they grew and then they grew out of control.
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: Obviously, Well they're kind of always out of control.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And those kinds of investigations could be the kind
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: of aggressive but non controversial thing you give the left
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: because absolutely everyone in the party is supportive of investigating corruption.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: It's like, what why they didn't do it last time?
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know, they just.
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: Padded HFC in the head and said, you guys go
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: after Benghazi.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: You guys have like you guys do have fun with that.
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so we'll see.
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: But it, I mean, Hakim Jeffries, this is a pretty
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: if he's trying to keep his job, this is the
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: exact kind of headlines he does not.
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: Want to be generating.
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it seems to me like that could be a
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: legitimate threat to his job when people are innaugry in
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: the winter.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going to have a he's going to have
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: a tough time. Yeah.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think so far the path is clear
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: for him to take the title. There's no opposition to him,
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: but opposition could rise up if he doesn't govern effectively
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: or it doesn't kind of you know, run things effectively.
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Well, let's turn now to this Flock convention in Atlanta.
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: Flock recently hosted a conference in Atlanta was billed as
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: the Atlanta Public Safety Conference, and it turns out the
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: public wasn't really invited.
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: So this is a video.
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: Posted by Ben Jordan on x with the caption Flock
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: takes their privacy very seriously, but the ethical gray area
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: in surveillance technology works both ways. Under no circumstances should
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: elected officials or public servants enjoy an expectation of privacy
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: when spending tax dollars to attend a surveillance lobbying event.
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: Let's roll the tape.
• 30:01
  Speaker 10: I was excited to go to Flock's big police convention
• 30:03
  Speaker 10: Flocked Forward. I bought a three hundred and fifty dollars
• 30:06
  Speaker 10: ticket and booked a hotel room at the Hilton in Atlanta.
• 30:09
  Speaker 10: But then Flock said no journalists allowed, which is really
• 30:13
  Speaker 10: kind of weird considering that your tax dollars are usually
• 30:16
  Speaker 10: paying for the tickets your public servants. By then, a
• 30:18
  Speaker 10: Flock employee contacted the hotel on my behalf and canceled
• 30:21
  Speaker 10: my room without notifying me, so I couldn't even be
• 30:24
  Speaker 10: in the building.
• 30:27
  Speaker 7: Shannon Joan.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: Be canceled Flock.
• 30:31
  Speaker 10: Could keep our bodies out of the convention, but they
• 30:34
  Speaker 10: couldn't block our electromagnetic frequencies. Then I flew my drone
• 30:37
  Speaker 10: with a zoom lens over the convention as it was
• 30:40
  Speaker 10: letting out cool looks like lots of police and politicians
• 30:44
  Speaker 10: got tons of free swag. Do you recognize these attendees?
• 30:48
  Speaker 10: If not, that's okay, we can just use facial recognition.
• 30:52
  Speaker 10: Oh my god, I can't believe I was only a
• 30:55
  Speaker 10: drone flight away from Minnesota Senator Julian Ortman. This little
• 31:00
  Speaker 10: their own flight allowed us to find out that Senator
• 31:02
  Speaker 10: Ortman is a managing partner of Public Safety Strategies Group,
• 31:05
  Speaker 10: which is led by Rich Stanek, the former sheriff of
• 31:08
  Speaker 10: Hennepin County covering Minneapolis. And guess what FLOCK pays them
• 31:12
  Speaker 10: as consultants to find confidential leads to new police contracts
• 31:16
  Speaker 10: around the country. This is just the tip of the iceberg.
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: Absolutely delicious, well done, Well done using facial recognition when
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: they blocked the media from a FLOCK convention, getting at
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: your drone flying it in there, and then.
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: Of course assuming they followed all drone regulations in the
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: Atlanta area. But beautiful to see that.
• 31:37
  Speaker 8: Ryan.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure that they did. Yeah, I'm sure they did. Now.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: Flock, on the other hand, they're a little bit it
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: seems less interested in following some of the thornier regulations
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: and constitutional protections that we have, we have in place.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: The flock CEO I didn't realize was a child was
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: on cable defending.
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: I was like, oh, wow, child, we have to refer
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: to him as the child CEO.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: Now incredible, So let's roll this. The most shocking thing
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: I mean it was this that this is the CEO.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: After that we'll discuss what he actually says.
• 32:14
  Speaker 11: I value my privacy, my family values their privacy, my
• 32:17
  Speaker 11: employees value their privacy. But what we're talking about is
• 32:20
  Speaker 11: safety as well. And so I think when people talk
• 32:22
  Speaker 11: about just one of these privacy or safety, they're prioritizing
• 32:26
  Speaker 11: the wrong thing. And we have to prioritize as a
• 32:28
  Speaker 11: country is compromise. How do we have our safety and
• 32:31
  Speaker 11: how do we balance privacy? And so when I think
• 32:33
  Speaker 11: about legislation that calls for an outright ban, that's like
• 32:36
  Speaker 11: banning vehicles that would never have made sense. Instead, what
• 32:39
  Speaker 11: we did is we introduced laws against trunk driving, We
• 32:42
  Speaker 11: introduced laws around seatbelts.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: Reminds me of Sean Duffy's son in law. Sean Duffy
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: sat next to his son in law who's running for
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: Congress and the guy talked about the job he had
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: when he was fourteen.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: It's like a fast food restaurant or something.
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: Okay, no comment on this.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: He's a friend.
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: It's a person I know who's actually running for congress.
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: But yeah, that was a pretty funny It was a
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: pretty funny video.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: You know, you win the primary where my family's from.
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: I think he probably will win. He won the primary.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: But Congressman Jean Duffy's son in.
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: Law, law, Yeah, that video was definitely not ideal. But
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: you're right, it's it's giving a little bit of that.
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: This guy is thirty eight.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: By the way I looked it up, there's no chance
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: that guy's.
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: Thirty's apparently thirty eight.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: He's doing the.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: What's his name, Brian Armstrong, He's found the fountain of youth.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: In any Brian Brian Johnson, Yes, in any event, it
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: would be like banning cars. I don't know, man, like
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: we actually did ban a bunch of unsaved cars.
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he should talk to Ralph Nader.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we did that, and then the cars that were
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: deemed to be safe then went through a regulatory process
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: and those were allowed to be sold, and as a result,
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: the number of people dying in car accidents went down substantially.
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: I was thinking the d of the day actually that we
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: need to get stoler on the Flock case, because what
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: they're doing right now seemingly is trying to create a
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: monopoly of one system. It's actually kind of similar to
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: what I think polunteers done in certain cases, where you
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: have one system that you become totally dependent on, and
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: it sweeps up so much data that it's hard to
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  Speaker 6: change products because they make it impossible to switch to
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  Speaker 6: a different massive surveillance system. And so as soon as
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: Flock monopolizes this market all of the data, they say
• 34:33
  Speaker 6: that it's decentralized. I don't think anybody believes that, but
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: it's all in the hands of one company, and that
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: company has no competition, so they can choose to behave
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: as awfully as they want to.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's the you can manipulate the video now
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: like it's we're.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: In an utterly dystopian environment at this point.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: It feels like the pushback against it is moving as
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: quickly as it did kind of against data centers, And
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: I think there's some overlap between the two.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of public the backlashes.
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  Speaker 4: Are you seeing this on the right, you're seeing politicians
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: start to develop some hostility or some least some skepticism
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  Speaker 4: to this.
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  Speaker 6: You know, the first time I actually started to see
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: pushback to Flock, it was on the right, and it
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: was from Tim Burchett and I forget who like Eli Crane,
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: I think. So it was on the kind of you knowbitarian, Yeah, yeah,
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: libertarian populist.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: So that's still there, but I think it's what we're
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: seeing right now is going to be a lot like
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: that fascinating Axios story related to the Mike Rogers campaign
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: and APAK that I'm sure across from Radar last week,
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: where they said Mike Rodgers has a strategy right now
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: to not affiliate with APAK because he doesn't want.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: A right he said, he wants their money, he wants
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: their staff, right, wants their support, but just be quiet
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: about it.
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he doesn't want to have any public affiliation with
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: a pack And so right now, I think it's the
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: same thing with data centers, right, hasn't. Mike Rogers also
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: said he wants we should pause right data centers, and
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: some Republicans are doing that as well, like, well, let's
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: just pause for a year and it's the talking point
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: on the campaign trail. It's the way of reckoning at
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: least to get through this campaign with the populist backlash
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: to data centers to flock to a pack.
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: Now you can choose whether or not to believe it
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: Which I would say don't obviously, But they're at least
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: starting to realize the first step to solving problems of
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: meaning you have a problem, I suppose, but I don't
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: have much confidence they're going to go past that first part.