Latest / The Chris and Mike Show / #113 - Brian Morris - From Ugly Pools to World Records
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- 0:44What's up there, boys and girls? This is Chris and Mike show
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- 1:01It's been a while, man. Let's repeat that.
- 1:04OK? Hey, we are coming to you live
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- 1:17Nicely done. Welcome, Brian.
- 1:19Hey welcome. Thanks for having me.
- 1:21Absolutely. Very nice to meet you man.
- 1:24So Brian and I go way back, we go way like way back.
- 1:27Like I was watching the Diamondbacks and, and the night
- 1:30before there's a monsoon and my grill went into the pool.
- 1:34So we in the morning got up and pulled everything out and and
- 1:38when I pulled the grill mat up the entire bottom of the pool
- 1:41had the had the 2 grill grates and it rusted the bond rappool.
- 1:45So the following night legit I'm at home watching the
- 1:48Diamondbacks play and a we fix lucky pools commercial comes on.
- 1:52So I call the number oh this is awesome.
- 1:54And he answers the phone and so I start talking about what it my
- 1:57thing is and then somehow he brings up he's the one.
- 2:00I'm like, you're the owner, you're answering your own phone.
- 2:03I remember doing that order and guitar lessons out of the back
- 2:06of a magazine one year and the yeah, the dude and I was living
- 2:09in Phoenix and the dude that was in the ad answered the phone.
- 2:12I thought the same thing. That's an awesome story.
- 2:14Man, and we've been friends ever since.
- 2:16Because that's. I used to watch the I used to
- 2:18watch the games because I knew what ending the rotation was
- 2:20coming up behind the home plate. And it was always exciting to
- 2:23see how many phone calls would come in.
- 2:24So right, we would sit there and have like a pizza party during
- 2:27the games at the office. I just happened to field that
- 2:29call. It was kind of cool.
- 2:31It was really cool because here we are like that's got to be
- 2:33fucked. Dude did 2. 1520 years ago.
- 2:37Yeah, 20 years ago. And did you?
- 2:39Ever take a tally like of what the difference was or like a
- 2:44grand total of you know what the most calls was during that
- 2:47segment? We had a, we had 1/2 inning, we
- 2:50took 230 calls. We used to get drunk
- 2:54fraternities that would call us, people would call us.
- 2:56You got to remember 2005, not everybody had a cell phone.
- 2:59So it was still pretty new, but people would call us and be
- 3:02like, and, and then they would say the most random stuff.
- 3:04But we got in some pretty cool conversations with with people
- 3:07and across the country that which was kind of fun.
- 3:09That's so awesome. Yeah, what's even cooler is the
- 3:13Diamondbacks came in 2001, right?
- 3:16Yeah, it was an inaugural No 1999. 99 OK.
- 3:19They won in 2001. That's what it was that was a
- 3:22partial. Season ticket holder then in our
- 3:24inaugural season. Right, because that's when Jake
- 3:26was born. So, but the really neat thing
- 3:28that most people probably don't realize, I mean, some do, but
- 3:30not so much anymore because Brian doesn't hammer on the
- 3:32head. Brian actually renovated bank on
- 3:36ballpark swimming pool. I actually ripped out the old
- 3:38one and put a new one in. So, so tell tell those that are
- 3:42watching this live on YouTube right now, and because we're
- 3:44going to use this later, tell us how that all happened because
- 3:47I've heard this story before and it's a really cool story.
- 3:49So when you're watching the game and you're looking at that pool,
- 3:51we're talking to the guy that did it, that is, yes.
- 3:54There's been some work done since then.
- 3:56Was 20 years ago literally 2000? January 2004, I'm sitting at the
- 4:02Monster Truck Jam and I was trying to figure out how do I
- 4:06really get my company out there. It was a fairly new business and
- 4:09I wanted to get out there. And I looked out at the pool and
- 4:11I'm like, I think I'm going to renovate this pool.
- 4:12And it was only, you know, five years old at the time.
- 4:15So I decided to go ahead and put on my best, my best pitch.
- 4:20And I went down to the Diamondback Stadium and I tried
- 4:21to get a meeting with someone and I didn't get a meeting.
- 4:24So for three months, I would show up every day and I would
- 4:27sit in the lobby for three to four hours trying to get a
- 4:31meeting with someone. And it was three months later.
- 4:33And this we go through a number of things that happened.
- 4:37I think the, the receptionist there, I can't remember her
- 4:40name, but I used to bring her coffee, I would bring her
- 4:41flowers, I brought her Valentine's Day gifts.
- 4:44Nothing worked, right? And then one day I'm sitting
- 4:46there and these guys come in really nice in their suits and
- 4:48they're like, we're here for our marketing meeting.
- 4:50Next thing I know there's five guys down there and I'm like,
- 4:52Hey, can I get a, a marketing meeting?
- 4:55And she's like, I thought you'd never ask.
- 4:56And so that was my, my ticket up.
- 4:59And so I showed for my meeting. We get in the elevator, I
- 5:02stopped and do a whole elevator pitch.
- 5:04The guy is just kind of like, whoa, you know, just kind of
- 5:07like it's, I don't know where this is going to go, but he took
- 5:10me upstairs and the rest is history.
- 5:12But I have to tell you the, the, the, the main part of that
- 5:16story. So I'm, I'm a big Jerry
- 5:18Colangelo fan. I think without dirty Arizona
- 5:20would have no sports. And so we I get a call one day
- 5:24from from Tim Emery, who is my, my guy.
- 5:28And he tells me he's like, hey, we're having a meeting.
- 5:30I used to wear black T-shirts, basically cargo shorts and flip
- 5:34flops because I was out in the job sites all the time.
- 5:36He's like, I need you to come down.
- 5:37We're having a meeting. And I'm like, OK, I don't think
- 5:39anything of it. I show up at the meeting an hour
- 5:40later. I walk in wearing black T-shirt,
- 5:43cargo shorts and my flip flops. I love it.
- 5:45And I open up the door and he's like, you're a little
- 5:47underdressed. And it's Jerry Colangelo and all
- 5:49the owners of the Diamondbacks into the table.
- 5:51And I can tell you immediately just started sweating like I was
- 5:54going to pass out right there on the floor.
- 5:57Now now just so people understand though, your black
- 5:59polo shirts had your We Fixed Ugly Pools logo.
- 6:01It wasn't even a polo shirt, Chris.
- 6:03It was a really shirt we fixed it was it was generation one of
- 6:06our of our T-shirts. So it was the rest of the logo.
- 6:10Wow, that's crazy. That makes that makes the story
- 6:12even better though. Yeah, so I, I get, I get, I get
- 6:16a chance to, to, to very informally pitch them.
- 6:20I get told pretty much they're not going to go anywhere.
- 6:22And then next thing I know, we're we're getting the
- 6:24opportunity to to do something on a grand scale.
- 6:27And there's only a couple pools that have that notoriety or
- 6:30that, you know, where people actually recognize it.
- 6:33And to be able to be a part of that history was pretty awesome.
- 6:36How long was it between the time that you didn't think it was
- 6:39going to happen and they changed their mind?
- 6:42Months. Like not even very many months.
- 6:44It happened very quickly. So my whole thing was is, is the
- 6:48Diamondbacks had a great season, 2001, their inaugural season,
- 6:5099, 2001, they won the World Series.
- 6:53By 2004, they were struggling for attendance.
- 6:55They were just not having great season.
- 6:57So we were giving them some opportunity and I came in with
- 6:59this idea that, hey, you know, let's bring a new life to it.
- 7:02The old pool was put in by Paddock Pools and it was a
- 7:05typical commercial pool, blue tile plaster finish.
- 7:09And I'm like, let's make it more renditious of outdoor living.
- 7:12So I put in a BBQ. I did stone decking, I did a lot
- 7:16of stacks stone. I actually.
- 7:17Awesome man, I love. It the pool is actually not
- 7:19built as as a pool, it's actually 2 spas because I had to
- 7:23circumvent some of the the the codes.
- 7:26And with a pool you have to have 100% decking.
- 7:29With a SPA you only have to have 30% decking.
- 7:31So I actually wanted to elevate the pool so when you sit on the
- 7:33pool, you'd be seeing out over the fence instead of being on
- 7:36the bottom at the at the level of the ground and then staring
- 7:39at the fence. That's cool.
- 7:41So you use the code to your advantage.
- 7:43Well, I learned a lot of lessons during that.
- 7:45Yes, Sir. That's awesome.
- 7:48Yeah, but yeah. And he also, by the way, has the
- 7:51world record for building an in ground swimming pool as well.
- 7:55Yes, that's awesome too, and I want to hear about that.
- 7:57But I can't tell you enough that I did not know obviously, that
- 8:00you did that. And I've seen it 100 times
- 8:03watching Diamondbacks games. It is very impressive so.
- 8:06Thank you. That was so a couple years later
- 8:10I had this, we've, we've, we managed to figure out how to
- 8:13build that, that pool and we were told by the, the county
- 8:18that we built the pool. The paddock took like 9 months
- 8:20to build the dime backs pool. The first one I built it in 16
- 8:23days my, my time. So I, I was worked on an
- 8:26amplified timeline. So a couple years later I was
- 8:29sitting there thinking, I know Pat Shasta had the, the world
- 8:33record for building a pool in 7-7 hours and 50 something
- 8:36minutes or something like that, or 7 hours or 14 minutes.
- 8:39And it had been there since 1970s.
- 8:42So we had I put together an idea and in two weeks decided I
- 8:46figured out how to make it happen on 7th St. and Thomas
- 8:48would put together a pool in five hours, 56 minutes and 7
- 8:51seconds. That included not just the pool,
- 8:53but the landscaping, the play area, the fence, the solar
- 8:56covers, the solar heating, the lighting, the water features.
- 8:59I mean, it was a pretty awesome experience.
- 9:01So this day. Guys, did that take?
- 9:03What's that? How many guys did that take?
- 9:05I had 189 on site that included multiple inspectors that I had
- 9:11to pay City of Phoenix. We had police officers on site
- 9:14for traffic and and time control.
- 9:16The fire department actually filled the pool.
- 9:18And then we had all of our crews that were just cycling in and
- 9:20out. I mean, it was just, it was, it
- 9:22was pretty awesome feat. Yeah.
- 9:24I, I was I, I was blessed enough to be standing there watching
- 9:27it. Oh, you saw the thing live.
- 9:29Yeah, I was there. Yeah, that's awesome.
- 9:31At the at the time, because the real estate market had changed,
- 9:33we turned and we kind of went from a downward slope.
- 9:36OK, So then because Brian and I, Brian knew first hand about my
- 9:40marketing and how I stayed in contact with clients and things
- 9:42like that because once I sold him his house, he started
- 9:44getting all my stuff. Sure.
- 9:46So he and I are born of the same cloth as far as marketing in
- 9:50your face, like non-stop, just, you know, top of mind, top of
- 9:53mind. So we had that mutual respect.
- 9:55So when the market turned, I'm like, well, shit, you know, real
- 9:58estate's blah, blah, blah. So I reached out to him.
- 10:00I'm like, hey, now, how about I come work for you and I show
- 10:03your your sales guys how to get repeat and referral business.
- 10:06So it was kind of just something that that we both agreed would
- 10:08would work and it was cool. So when he was doing that, the
- 10:13world record pool at the time I was working when his in his what
- 10:16is what HR department, I guess you'd call it.
- 10:18Yep. Well, you're doing a lot of the
- 10:19the, the the customer retention training.
- 10:22Yes, yes. So I was helping with that,
- 10:24helping to show and his, his C or his contact management system
- 10:27was insane. And just, I mean, it was off the
- 10:30charts because that's Brian. Brian does everything off the
- 10:32charts. There's nothing little with
- 10:33Brian. It's like we're going to do it,
- 10:34we're going to do it. But it was a great follow up.
- 10:37I appreciate. So right.
- 10:39But it was a, it was a great follow up system that he has and
- 10:41it, it enabled me to help his, his sales guys understand how
- 10:44to, how to get that referral and repeat business by just, you
- 10:47know, touches. And I don't think texting was
- 10:51big back then. What didn't exist?
- 10:53No. E-mail. e-mail was just getting
- 10:55to be big, but we were still doing a lot of postcards.
- 10:57We're doing a lot of thank you cards, handwritten thank you
- 10:59cards. That was our big thing back
- 11:01then. Yeah, I remember 1 Christmas, he
- 11:03sent little gift, little gift baskets to all the clients we
- 11:07all had. We all all the employees met at
- 11:08his house in Mesa and we we had each had our set of stuff and we
- 11:13had to go to the different past clients and drop off their.
- 11:15Little 750 gift baskets. Yeah, Brian doesn't mess around,
- 11:21man. That's awesome, man.
- 11:22Yeah, but that's why he's been in business.
- 11:24I mean, what, 20 years? 20 plus years.
- 11:26Almost 25 years now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 11:29He was actually part of my radio show and on on iheart, he was a
- 11:32sponsor. So every, every show we had a
- 11:34segment that was brought to you by We Fix Ugly Poles, which is
- 11:36where I came up with that thing. We were just sitting in one day
- 11:38and they stood I'm like from installation innovation and back
- 11:41of complete back. Our creation week looks ugly,
- 11:43pulls this little and he's like dude.
- 11:46But you hit the nail on the head when you said top of mind, you
- 11:49know you keep in touch with your clients like that.
- 11:52I was calling my go to people, right?
- 11:54I got, I have a go to mechanic. I have a go to person that'll
- 11:57work on plumbing or, you know, my roof or right.
- 12:01It's not just anybody. It has to be that guy because
- 12:03that guy pays attention to detail, right?
- 12:05I noticed things like that because I became a good guitar
- 12:08player. When you master one craft, you
- 12:12see that same attention to detail in every other craft,
- 12:16right? And you guys both possess that
- 12:18in that you keep in touch with the people that did business
- 12:21with you first, which is unheard of in business these days.
- 12:25Absolutely. Normally it's customer
- 12:28acquisition, right? Who's the next person coming?
- 12:31Yeah, because there's there's things that I've seen over the
- 12:33years in real estate that and I'm sure it falls, falls in line
- 12:35with what Brian does is that that it's like 90% of people who
- 12:40who buy a house don't use that realtor when they go to sell it
- 12:43because they never hear from them again.
- 12:45True. And I've had, I mean, I've had
- 12:47people that I'm constantly in contact with and they'll still
- 12:49walk into a new, but I'm like, you did not just do that.
- 12:54And that's the catch with new builds.
- 12:55There's a little thing in the very bottom of the door.
- 12:57If your realtor's not with you, you're screwed.
- 13:00And then they'll call me, hey, dude, I went to a new build.
- 13:02I want to buy it. I'm like you're killing me
- 13:04smalls, that's why I make videos.
- 13:07Do not go into a new build without me.
- 13:09That's why you never have any problem with me though, Chris,
- 13:10come on now. Right, right.
- 13:12And yeah, yeah, see. Brian Chris Ragged across town
- 13:15believe. That yeah, Brian's an hour away
- 13:17from me and I'm still when, when he was looking for houses, man,
- 13:19it's like let's go he referred me somebody that I've been
- 13:21working with for about 3 weeks now it's legit it's an hour and
- 13:2510 minutes one way just to show this this person houses and
- 13:28stuff and what he wants is unique so we we're still kind of
- 13:31open our doors and exploring things but we've never been
- 13:34afraid to drive, you know most. Realtors, let's be honest, 2,
- 13:37two, 2 1/2 years ago when we purchased the, the house I'm in
- 13:40now, that one was tough market. There wasn't a lot of
- 13:43availability and what I was looking for was really
- 13:46difficult. And well, I think what we did,
- 13:48we did one day, we did 2020 house views in one day.
- 13:51They just lined them up. We if we drove by, they had curb
- 13:54kill, we went in. If they didn't then we were on
- 13:56and we put he put offers in on on five or six, did inspections
- 13:59on four and cancelled a bunch of them.
- 14:02But that's, I mean, you have to adapt when the, when the market
- 14:05changes, you evolve or you die. And right.
- 14:07So it's kind of like you ugly pool man, he evolves.
- 14:11He's evolved over the years, you know, because now he, he does
- 14:14complete backyard installation and creation.
- 14:16So anything from the back door to the back fence, wall to wall,
- 14:19Brian can turn it from dirt into paradise.
- 14:22Oh, we've always, we always did that.
- 14:23We just never focused on our marketing.
- 14:25Now it's become a pretty big part of it do.
- 14:27You have a YouTube channel? I do.
- 14:30It's that we fix ugly pools or we fix light pools and ugly pool
- 14:34guy. So I've got a couple of them.
- 14:35There are a lot of, some of. These I've only ever seen the
- 14:39Diamondbacks pool that you've done so I'll definitely
- 14:41subscribe and. The the World Record pool is
- 14:43pretty pretty fun. It takes you about 6 minutes to
- 14:45watch. What we want to watch out on our
- 14:46big screen. Yeah, and the, and the cool
- 14:48thing about that, the world record pool, it wasn't just
- 14:52digging a hole, dropping a pool in the ground.
- 14:54They they had the water features that shot across the pool like
- 14:57it was legit. Is that when you're done with
- 14:59it? It's like, holy smokes, this is
- 15:00a really nice swimming pool. So you didn't just go in, slap
- 15:03it together, you built a badass pool.
- 15:05Yeah, that's. And the and the.
- 15:06Like I said, it wasn't just the pool though.
- 15:08Yeah, we did everything. We we landscaped it, we built
- 15:10the play area for the kids. Because every time I turned
- 15:13around, the media was like, what else you going to do?
- 15:15What else you going to do? What else you going to do?
- 15:16And I'm like, what more do you want me to do but build a pool
- 15:18and under 5, you know, 6 out. Yeah, yeah.
- 15:21Is that all you you were required to do is just build the
- 15:24pool to beat the record? Yeah.
- 15:26Wow. Shasta's pool is a very basic
- 15:29pool. It was over off actually went to
- 15:30the pool. It was over off of Peoria and
- 15:35like 90 2nd Ave. I met the lady.
- 15:38She was, you know, very upset about the fact that we were
- 15:40going after this record because she's had it.
- 15:43But their pool is a very basic plaster pool with cap tile.
- 15:46And I, you know, wanted to do something much better, but we
- 15:50wanted to make it more of the complete experience.
- 15:52In fact, the husband went to work that morning thinking we'd
- 15:55be done in the afternoon. And the the boss that was before
- 15:58streaming was a big thing. So we streamed.
- 16:00Oh. That's right, I remember that.
- 16:02And, and we had a million, we could cap it a million viewers
- 16:05and our system kept crashing because there was only, there
- 16:08was always a million viewers, but people were waiting in the
- 16:10queue. 60% were from other countries, yeah.
- 16:14Yeah, I forgot about the. Stream.
- 16:16Yeah, because it didn't. We didn't have all this cool
- 16:18technology where you pick up your phone and stream.
- 16:20We had to set up this whole intricate system and have
- 16:23cameras everywhere. And it was.
- 16:24Pretty cool, right? And then just so people realize
- 16:27I'm in. I'm in Queen Creek, AZ Brian's
- 16:29in Glendale, AZ Mike's in Pontiac, IL.
- 16:32Yep. And here we are, you know.
- 16:35But it's so much simpler now because everybody's video
- 16:37calling now. Oh.
- 16:38Yeah, right. Oh yeah.
- 16:39Yeah, this system works pretty much Florida State as long as
- 16:42you have a cable modem or faster.
- 16:44Yeah, So what else do you want to talk about there, ugly pool
- 16:48guy? Man, what do you want to talk
- 16:49about? I'm all of excitement all the
- 16:54time. So I know, I know, I know.
- 16:56So in the background, I can't help but notice the superhero
- 16:59picture because, you know, somebody gave that to you.
- 17:01Yeah, that was from you. So the representation.
- 17:05Yeah, Talk a little bit about your dad, man.
- 17:07Your dad was, was a, was a, was just a cool human for sure.
- 17:10I didn't know how much of A cool human he was and until
- 17:14unfortunately, you know, he, he passed away.
- 17:16But that's when I like, Oh my gosh, this guy.
- 17:20So I've always looked at my dad as like larger than life.
- 17:23He's always been my superhero. And he he used to have these
- 17:26little quips all the time, saying things like, you know,
- 17:29inch by inch is a sense yard by yard is hard.
- 17:31And it became my my motto in life.
- 17:34And I didn't realize it. We used it when we were on the
- 17:36track and field. So it back in the 90s high
- 17:39school was a national champion, state champion and went on to
- 17:41the national championships. Was placed top in the world of
- 17:44of. These people don't know.
- 17:47Shot put in discus so I was a shot putter and but anytime that
- 17:52I would get frustrated, he would say, just remember inch by inch
- 17:54is a sense yard by yard is hard. But I didn't realize that the,
- 17:58the phrase actually meant more in life than it did in in on the
- 18:02field. So I, I adopted it and I started
- 18:05to learn to celebrate the small victories and that was how I
- 18:07started to gear all my success. So when I talk to people, our
- 18:10mentor people and they get frustrated because they see I
- 18:13said, look, I've had 20 years of fumbling to get where I'm at you
- 18:16know, inch by inch is how it how you get there.
- 18:19So in 2023, he passed away and that's when you grabbed this
- 18:24and, and sent this to me. But I had created the, the, the,
- 18:28the character for the ugly pool guy.
- 18:30And I always put my dad in the picture and you know, he's
- 18:34always been my Superman. So he's always looking over my
- 18:36shoulder, but reminding me that, you know, inch by inch you can
- 18:39make anything happen. So it's he, he was the eternal,
- 18:43he was the eternal mentor. He taught for 27 years.
- 18:46And I, I run into his students all the time that he had him in
- 18:48the 70s that talk about the profound impact that he had on
- 18:52their lives. And I'm blessed to have been
- 18:54able to call him my dad. As hard as he was, he, he was a,
- 18:58a ball Buster. You know, he was not afraid as
- 19:02even as much as he was always the most supportive guy.
- 19:06Hey, 2nd place was first loser. So just remember this, there was
- 19:10there was always that if you're going to go after it, you go
- 19:12after it and do the best that you can.
- 19:13But second place is first loser. So he didn't give out
- 19:16participation trophies. He expected.
- 19:18If you're going to do it, you go to it.
- 19:19You're never allowed to quit in the middle of a season.
- 19:21If you're if you don't like something, you finish out the
- 19:23season, you do it. But if you're going to do it and
- 19:25he want you want me to, he wants you to, you want me to.
- 19:27If I wanted him to help me, I was going to perform at the
- 19:30level that he wanted that I wanted to be at, not him,
- 19:33because he never put those expectations on me.
- 19:35But a lot of that made you who you are today, for sure.
- 19:38I feel the same way, man. You know, there's times when you
- 19:42really, when you're young, you think, man, does he really love
- 19:46me? You know, why, why's he got to
- 19:48be like this? And then when you're our age,
- 19:50you think back on those moments or you see people that didn't
- 19:54have that and they're they're really fucked in life, right?
- 19:57They didn't have anybody to call them on their bullshit, right?
- 20:00Because women can serve both roles to an extent.
- 20:05But there has to be that what you called an intimidation
- 20:08factor, right? I had that as well.
- 20:10My dad 64235 when he, you know, as a young man, he was built
- 20:14like a freight train. So I could only go so far before
- 20:19I had to be either. I could never be smarter than
- 20:22him and I could never be bigger than him at that time, you know,
- 20:25like I'm fucked. OK.
- 20:27I got. I got to tell you, Mike.
- 20:29I'll just tell you the truth. I I graduated I graduated high
- 20:32school 6 foot 4 and 295. My dad was 50 years old, 662 and
- 20:37a half and 2:50 and I made the mistake of of stepping up to him
- 20:41right after my mom passed away my senior year.
- 20:43And I made the mistake of stepping up to him one day.
- 20:46And at 50 my dad picked up a 290 LB man and put me through a wall
- 20:52this far off off the ground. Oh my God.
- 20:55And he told me he goes always remember something.
- 20:57You can always be bigger than me, but you're never going to be
- 21:00meaner than me. I love that.
- 21:02Fair enough. So I I had had an opportunity
- 21:09late in life. I I just had a son when I turned
- 21:1249. Congratulations.
- 21:15And and I have to give my dad again, all thanks to this credit
- 21:17because in 2022, I was running for a, a state State House
- 21:22representative and we were watching the video at the
- 21:24primary and I was like, man, that video really puts on some
- 21:28weight. My dad looked at me and goes,
- 21:29son, that's not the video. And I was, I had gotten, I'd
- 21:33gotten heavier than I'd ever gotten because I just kind of
- 21:35let myself go. I was wearing a almost a 5X
- 21:38shirt, 44 pants. I'm 370 lbs.
- 21:40I'm just unhealthy. But I had convinced myself that
- 21:43I was still this large man. So over the next 15 months, I
- 21:47dropped 130 lbs. I turned my biomarkers around.
- 21:50I was biologically 56 years old at 47.
- 21:52I'm now biologically 42 at 49. And all of a sudden, all of a
- 21:58sudden my baby pops up. And so now I've got the, the
- 22:02revision to the Superman picture as we put, we put grandpa in
- 22:05heaven and he's looking down on us and his Superman and I've got
- 22:08little bee on my shoulder. So when I get that that one.
- 22:11Done. And I love that.
- 22:14The difficulty with that too, because when I, when I had that
- 22:16idea, I had nobody would do it because Superman's a trademark
- 22:20logo. And I was like, you got to be
- 22:22kidding me. Like I went to so many different
- 22:23outlets that to do it and nobody would do it.
- 22:26I forget who ended up doing it for me.
- 22:27And from this point it looks really cool.
- 22:30But well, I know, but Brian knows when you're up close, it's
- 22:33kind of pixelated just because of of the image itself.
- 22:35But from this point of view it's I mean.
- 22:38It looks bad ass from where I. Yeah, And I was telling you,
- 22:42what do you get somebody that that because really, the stories
- 22:44I've heard from his dad, the one the one that resonates with me
- 22:48because I didn't know your dad, but I met him one time.
- 22:52And then when I ran into him at the Rattlers game, it's like we
- 22:55we known each other entire life. Like that's just how he was.
- 22:58He was he always looked at me and smiled, was happy to see me.
- 23:02I mean, he was that kind of guy. But the story that stuck with me
- 23:06that you told was the fact that the one time he got stuck on the
- 23:09side of the road and nobody would help him.
- 23:11So from that point forward, he would, he would always have a
- 23:14tool kit in her or tool, whatever in his box, right?
- 23:18And anybody he saw on the side of the road, he would stop,
- 23:21regardless of the time of day, regardless of where he was
- 23:24going, regardless of. This we would be on cross
- 23:26country trips to go to visit family in Oklahoma.
- 23:29It would be 0° outside icy roads and he'd see a family.
- 23:33My dad had this this this little Craftsman toolbox that had
- 23:36everything in there. My dad was a a badass mechanic.
- 23:39He was he. He taught in industrial arts and
- 23:41mechanics in school. I watched them drop the engine
- 23:44of a VW bug change out, rebuild a carburetor in a Fry's parking
- 23:48lot. Smitty's back then, but if.
- 23:50Parking. I himself put the engine back
- 23:53in, bolt it up and get the people on their way.
- 23:55So we're driving to Oklahoma, it's middle of the night and
- 23:59there's this family struck on the side of the road.
- 24:01My dad pulls out his toolbox. We're sleeping in the motorhome.
- 24:04I wake up, I go out there, he's like here, hold the flashlight
- 24:06for me and my head in freezing conditions, wearing AT shirt and
- 24:11shorts and socks and his slippers works on this guy's car
- 24:15and gets his family back on the road.
- 24:16And he told me this, you know, when he when he goes, I'll never
- 24:19leave anybody stranded. So that's my philosophy today,
- 24:22even though everybody has cell phones and AAA, we still stop
- 24:25the change tires all the time. Yeah, that was that was the most
- 24:28endearing story I heard when when we were at his, at his,
- 24:31what do you call that celebration of life?
- 24:34Celebration of life? Yeah.
- 24:35That was I mean that. Wasn't just an impressive thing
- 24:37though. I mean you saw people that
- 24:39showed up for him from elementary school kids that had
- 24:42him in as a teacher in the Seventies, 80s and 90s.
- 24:46I mean, there was 300 and 5400 people that showed up for that.
- 24:50Yeah, it was packed. It was packed.
- 24:52But that was the one story that stuck out to me just because
- 24:54it's, you know, who does that anymore on a grand scale?
- 24:58You know, unless you're a small town Midwest type thing, you
- 25:00don't hear about that. So.
- 25:02Yeah. And even that's rare nowadays
- 25:03for sure. Yeah.
- 25:05Well that cause of all the serial colors and stuff you know
- 25:07and so. So there you go.
- 25:12So Little B just turned 1. Just turned 1.
- 25:16I got to spend his birthday party on Saturday in the
- 25:18hospital. Right.
- 25:19And and why is that? Brian Morris?
- 25:22So in February this year I decided that I was going to
- 25:26start throwing shot, putting discus again.
- 25:27I got healthy. So I decided I'm driving down
- 25:29the street, I'm going to start throwing shot.
- 25:31I haven't done it in 28 years. Why not?
- 25:33I had no plans of competing this year.
- 25:35And 3rd day into it at the second week of February, the
- 25:38coach at GCC is like, hey, why don't you throw in our meat on
- 25:40Saturday? Well, in the master side, as you
- 25:44get older, they, they breakdown age divisions like 50 to 5455 to
- 25:4859. So it was a five year age
- 25:50division. And after my meet I threw
- 25:53against all these college kids on that Saturday I played second
- 25:55out of 36. That following Monday I found
- 25:58out I was #3 in the world for masters after not throwing for
- 26:02that long. So I, I spent the next 15 weeks,
- 26:07I, I didn't prepped myself for it.
- 26:09I was kind of like just right back to throwing and I thought,
- 26:12hey, I'm going to train the way I used to train when I was in my
- 26:1320s, which was five days a week, compete on the weekends, don't
- 26:17take any days off. Well, our bodies breakdown at 50
- 26:20a little differently a little bit.
- 26:22So I, I tore A calf, I tore A hamstring, I pulled a growing.
- 26:26I ended up with a small anigual hernia that I just kind of
- 26:29ignored. And then I just kept going and
- 26:32going and going. I was doing things at the I
- 26:35think it was right around the 4th of of May.
- 26:38I had set my sights on breaking this meat record up in Eugene,
- 26:42OR and had stood for 30 years at a place called Track Town USA.
- 26:45It's the most amazing track stadium.
- 26:47Eugene, is that in the same kind of area where Nike was
- 26:51developed? That's exactly it.
- 26:53OK, Yep. So the Eugene Stadium is it's
- 26:56track town when you when you pull in, it's track everything.
- 26:59I mean, that's that's what it is.
- 27:00Yep. So.
- 27:04So that's what it is. You're.
- 27:06Fine, whoever wants to see you. So it's Penny.
- 27:08We're not that. We're not that like rigid dude.
- 27:11Yeah, so I get there. I, I set sights on breaking that
- 27:16record. I, I'm on my, my last throw and
- 27:18I broke a record that was 30 years old at that point.
- 27:21I'm, I'm within striking distance of an Arizona record,
- 27:24which is 20 years old and the national record, which is 20
- 27:26years old. I come back, I start training
- 27:29right away on Monday. That Thursday, I'm just doing
- 27:32basic drills and I blow the meniscus out of my knee.
- 27:34Ouch. So I tore up both horns on the
- 27:38meniscus of my knee. And how?
- 27:40Does everybody says it does. It worse, I went from feeling
- 27:45like I was on top of the world to couldn't even walk.
- 27:47You hear grown men who are powerful athletes scream when
- 27:51that happens, so I just, it's got to hurt like you can't even
- 27:54imagine. I got carried to my truck, let's
- 27:56put it that way, OK? So, and you're on.
- 27:59Stop throwers are pretty good yeah yeah, I started started
- 28:03doing the the rehab right away A lot of alternative therapies I
- 28:08do a lot of regenerative factors stem cells, PRP, red light,
- 28:12hyperbaric oxygen, cryotherapy. I mean, I'm doing it all.
- 28:15Stem waves, shockwave, you name it, I'm.
- 28:17Doing it stem cells just out of. Curiosity Well, in in America,
- 28:20you can't get true stem cells. So we get what's called
- 28:22regenerative factors. And regenerative factors are
- 28:25what stem cells turn into. A lot of people don't understand
- 28:28how it works. So, and I can't say this word
- 28:31correctly, but they're called mesochemical.
- 28:33Stem cells are what we get with you go out of country, you can
- 28:36actually get where they're embryonic and you actually get
- 28:38the, the, the, the young stem cells that can become pretty
- 28:41much anything. But what the stem cells do is
- 28:44they turn into what's called regenerative factors.
- 28:46And regenerative factors are the messaging systems that actually
- 28:50help to rebuild tissue cells, everything like that.
- 28:53In America, you can't get true stem cells because of all of the
- 28:58stipulations about having embryonic stem cells and
- 29:01whatnot. So that's why a lot of people go
- 29:03back down to Mexico, Costa Rica, or Panama.
- 29:05You hear Joe Rogan talking about Panama all the time for stem
- 29:08cells. It's a huge Joe Rogan fan.
- 29:10Oh yeah. I listen to a lot.
- 29:13Yeah, me too. So I, I found a Doctor that
- 29:17actually does the, the, the regenerative factors.
- 29:20And when you do stem cells, you're doing hundreds of
- 29:23millions. When you're doing regenerative
- 29:24factors, you're doing billions. So I, I, I got hurt.
- 29:28I called him up on the phone. It's 5:00 in the afternoon and
- 29:31I'm like, hey, I got hurt. He's on his way home.
- 29:34He's like, come to my office. I get to his office 7:30, he
- 29:38stays till 9:00 treating me with stem cells on my knee and
- 29:41intravenously. I come back ten days later, do
- 29:43another round. Amazing.
- 29:46So Saturday had been six week in two days, five weeks in two days
- 29:50that I'd been off. They told me that I wouldn't be
- 29:52able to throw the rest of the season.
- 29:53I'm trying to get to nationals. I'm out.
- 29:55I'm out at the track meet at Mesa Community College and I'm I
- 29:59hadn't thrown a full throw in six weeks.
- 30:01So I hadn't even practiced but twice in six weeks.
- 30:04And since I got hurt and I throw my 5th throw and I, I fouled the
- 30:09throw, but it was over the American record and it was over
- 30:11the Arizona record. So I'm feeling really good in my
- 30:14last throw and I go to load up and next thing I know I felt the
- 30:17pop and, and I knew I knew something was wrong.
- 30:21Got home and found out that not only the indigo hernia that I
- 30:25had that I knew the other one had split open too.
- 30:28So little Bee's birthday started at this was I got home at 11:30
- 30:33at by 2:00 I had swelling in places that I wish I didn't.
- 30:37I felt like I was carrying a basketball between my legs and
- 30:40something was wrong. And so I head to the the ER at
- 30:432:00. Seventy people showed up for his
- 30:45birthday party at 5:00 and I was in surgery and the next morning
- 30:48at 7:30. Yeah man, well at least it was
- 30:51his first birthday so he won't remember.
- 30:53It sucks for you that you weren't there for sure.
- 30:55And holy crap. It was a great party.
- 30:58I saw what I could see on. Facebook, that's insane and,
- 31:01and, and technology. We were able to.
- 31:03You watch some of them on FaceTime, right?
- 31:04Yeah, I watched the gift opening.
- 31:06I watched. I got a lot of pictures.
- 31:08I cried a lot, you know, because I want to be here with my son.
- 31:10And. And whenever he would grab the
- 31:13phone, Little Little Bee is so in tune with me.
- 31:15He grabs a phone and he runs around.
- 31:17He shows everybody Dad, dad, dad, dad.
- 31:20And he just so it's just so funny.
- 31:21But he's going in circles and he's looking down.
- 31:23He's like Dad and he's showing everybody me, you know?
- 31:27Yeah, it was pretty cool. But then I got home.
- 31:30Yes. I got home late on Sunday night
- 31:34and he he immediately runs up to me and I can't pick him up
- 31:37because I, you know, I can't carry the weight.
- 31:39So it's, he was just crying that, that just broke my heart.
- 31:42I mean, as a man, I, I think I've waited a long time to have
- 31:45this kid. So yeah.
- 31:47Yeah. And if anybody knows Brian,
- 31:49Brian just this was this defines Brian having a son.
- 31:55Like if anybody, if anybody in the world deserved to have a son
- 31:58that wanted a son more than anything else in the in the
- 32:00world, that's Brian Morris. I'm just.
- 32:03Sitting here thinking that this is the luckiest kid in the world
- 32:05because, you know, everything I'm feeling from you is exactly
- 32:09what Chris just described. Yeah.
- 32:11And and little kid was. Blessed for sure.
- 32:13And he is he's such a cute little kid.
- 32:15Like he's he when you see a picture of me, like he doesn't
- 32:18look like he's 1. He just he looks like this
- 32:21really old soul for being such a such a little.
- 32:24I mean, it's one, but you just I mean it's.
- 32:26Just like a little person already, yeah.
- 32:28It's a trip. It's all, it's even crazier is
- 32:30his muscle development. Like, you know, he's got a
- 32:33chest, he's got a back, he's got lats and I'm like, he's got
- 32:36these, he's got, he's got grandpa's thighs.
- 32:39I mean, I wish I had my dad's thighs.
- 32:40My dad had these massive thighs and he's got these massive
- 32:44thighs. And I'm like, Yep, you're
- 32:45definitely your grandpa's kid, you know?
- 32:47That's why he picked you up and threw you through that wall.
- 32:51Power's in your legs, man. A lot of power was in that man
- 32:55in every aspect of his body. I mean, the funny story, there
- 32:59was an athlete that came down. His name was Mike Hungerford
- 33:01right before he passed away. And Mike was one of my dad's
- 33:04throwers, big football kid. He was massive lineman in in
- 33:07Moon Valley. My dad used to arm wrestle these
- 33:09kids and they used to always want to try to take on my dad.
- 33:11My dad never lost arm wrestling. That's fun.
- 33:13So it took about a couple days before my dad passed away.
- 33:15Mike comes over to the house and my dad's down to 175 lbs.
- 33:19He's still got these massive man hands that's been cranking
- 33:21wrenches and and and working on farms and doing all this stuff
- 33:24his whole life. And I'll never forget Mike
- 33:26looking at him and goes, you know, coach, he goes, I think I
- 33:29can finally take you and my dad with this big shit eating grin,
- 33:32looks at him and goes. And Mike just lost it, you know,
- 33:36because my my dad, yeah, he's the eternal tough guy.
- 33:39There was there was no if you want to talk about a man being a
- 33:42man, that was him. Like even on.
- 33:44Your best day is that going to happen?
- 33:46No, and that's what he said. It was basically, you know.
- 33:49No, I feel the same way about my dad for sure.
- 33:52It's like he, those guys were just a different, no matter how
- 33:55much we think we're men sitting here, they were a different
- 33:59breed of man, right? For good or bad, indifferent.
- 34:02You know, they lived in a different time, but that was a
- 34:05different man. As far as you're saying the
- 34:08toughness, the meanness, the there's no quit.
- 34:11I go to work every day. Unless I'm dying, I'll be at
- 34:14work, right? Yeah.
- 34:15That was their mindset. And that's the mindset that I
- 34:18carry too. I mean, you know, I got home at,
- 34:21I got home at 4:30 on Sunday. I was back at work at 7:00 AM
- 34:24yesterday so. And on the way from the
- 34:27hospital, where, where did you stop Brian?
- 34:29So I, I'm a big, I left the hospital and rent right to
- 34:34hyperbaric oxygen. So I, I've been studying
- 34:36alternative therapies for the last 2 1/2 years.
- 34:39I got on the the trail of alternative therapies.
- 34:41I don't believe in big pharma. I don't take, I haven't taken a
- 34:44single painkiller in years. I don't take aspirin.
- 34:48So I, I, I've been on this since my dad got cancer and actually
- 34:55went right to the hyperbaric oxygen therapy and, and started
- 34:58treatment with that, got into the red light, got into that.
- 35:02I, I believe that if we were actually empowering people to
- 35:05heal, that we would be putting people in a hyperbaric prior to
- 35:09surgery and immediately after surgery, because the number one
- 35:12thing that allows our body to heal is oxygen.
- 35:15So if you preload the body and allow it to have a more cellular
- 35:18movement and have that better blood flow, everything's going
- 35:22to work better. You can use a lower doses of of
- 35:25anesthesia. You can use lower doses of pain
- 35:27meds to get the same results and you're going to have better
- 35:29tissue healing. And actually in 48 hours, the
- 35:32scarring around my incision points has almost completely
- 35:37there's almost completely no, no bruising at all, which is
- 35:41insane. So, people.
- 35:42Need to hear this for sure because very few people listen
- 35:45to the amount of different kind of alternative medicine therapy
- 35:50doctors, you know, people who are legitimate.
- 35:53You know that you and I do because we hear a lot of them on
- 35:56Rogan and the people that you know, Jordan Peterson and the
- 36:00people that have followed Rogan for years that he's had on there
- 36:03that I listen to for different things for the same reason.
- 36:07You know, there has to be a better way.
- 36:09I was an avid cannabis user for years.
- 36:14You know, I used it recreationally in the band, you
- 36:17know, to write better songs. I used it later on after I got
- 36:21in a car accident for pain management.
- 36:24And then that ability was taken away from me through a job and I
- 36:29got addicted to Xanax for anxiety.
- 36:33You know, the actually Chris figured it out on this podcast,
- 36:36Brian, the first thing that I was ever addicted to was
- 36:40painkillers. After I got in that car accident
- 36:43that were prescribed by a doctor legitimately, they sent me home
- 36:46and gave me two muscle relaxers and a painkiller and said take
- 36:49this three times a day in perpetuity.
- 36:52You know, I didn't know any better.
- 36:54The doctor gave it to me. This was 1998.
- 36:56So, you know, we didn't have the whole opiate knowledge that we
- 37:00have today. And if they did, they didn't
- 37:02tell us, right? Yep.
- 37:04So I'll tell. You.
- 37:06Kudos to you for saying all that.
- 37:08My, my journey is, has taken me down the the rabbit hole of stem
- 37:12cells, regenerative factors, red light, hyperbaric cryotherapy.
- 37:16I have a cold plant red sauna in my garage.
- 37:19But I've become a guru when it comes to peptide therapy because
- 37:23I believe that holistically our bodies are already.
- 37:26And I'm going to throw this thing out there like.
- 37:28In the two main explain peptide therapy because very.
- 37:30Few people I'm going to right now.
- 37:32So first thing I'm going to do is I'm going to say this.
- 37:35We treat everything better than we treat ourselves.
- 37:38And the reason why I say this is because when you drive down the
- 37:40road and your check engine light comes on, you don't just pull
- 37:43over and pull the fuse on your check engine light.
- 37:45You take your car and you schedule for maintenance.
- 37:47But when you have a headache, you pull the fuse on the check
- 37:50engine light. A headache is a check engine
- 37:52light. A headache.
- 37:54A headache is your body's way of signaling your brain because the
- 37:56brain knows no pain. You can have open brain surgery
- 37:59and there's not a single pain receptor in your brain.
- 38:01All the pain receptors are from somewhere else.
- 38:03So when you have something that goes off in your brain, it's
- 38:05coming from somewhere else, that's a signal.
- 38:07The brain is the computer that you plug in.
- 38:09Like when you go get your car, your brain plugs in and it says,
- 38:13hey, you have this error code and then it has to signal your
- 38:16body on how to regenerate. And the reason why we know that
- 38:18our bodies are perfect machines is because when you are in a
- 38:21situation where you're extremity, when you're freezing,
- 38:24what is the first thing that freezes your extremities, right?
- 38:27Correct. Is your body has to protect the
- 38:29head, the heart, the lungs and the and the torso.
- 38:32You can lose both arms, both legs and still function and
- 38:34still live. And your body knows this.
- 38:37So it knows how to shut down the the systems that it doesn't need
- 38:41in in, in perpetuity until it gets to a point where it it has
- 38:44to start taking from other things.
- 38:46So let's use that as aging. As we age, our body takes from
- 38:49things like our skin. If we want to know why women age
- 38:52differently than men, as we get to 5060 seventy years old, we
- 38:56don't look as aged as a woman who's at 506070 because a woman
- 39:01has more collagen that's taken from their skin.
- 39:03Once it takes from their skin and the wrinkles start to
- 39:05happen, where does it go next? It goes to bones.
- 39:08Why do women have more more conditions of of of osteoporosis
- 39:13than any other than any other thing?
- 39:15The men, because they're that's the next thing that's that's
- 39:17that's gone after collagen is the building block, not protein,
- 39:21not calcium collagen, skin, bones, organs, all collagen
- 39:25based. So let's just use that as as as
- 39:27a building block. Peptides signal our body.
- 39:31They're short chain amino acids or short chain proteins in our
- 39:33body that actually allow our body to do certain things on a
- 39:36cellular level. There's hundreds upon thousands
- 39:39of different proteins in our bodies, and there's hundreds
- 39:43upon thousands of different peptides in our body.
- 39:45At age 30, our body starts to lose the ability to regenerate
- 39:50these things, so our production starts to go down.
- 39:54And the way I can use this, I like analogies because it makes
- 39:57sense. If you have a janitor that goes
- 39:59to a classroom and he's new on the job and he's doing a perfect
- 40:01job, he goes into the classroom, the classroom's always clean.
- 40:03He's wiping on the chalkboard, he's cleaning the trash cans.
- 40:05He's mopping the floors. Ten years later, that same
- 40:08janitor, he's got a lot of other rooms, the classes are messy,
- 40:11He's getting in, he's hurrying you through, but he's not
- 40:13cleaning them exactly right. So now you start to leave these
- 40:16cells behind that are called zombie cells, or they're cells
- 40:18that are just not getting taken care of.
- 40:20They're not getting cleared out of our body because our janitors
- 40:23aren't doing the work that they're supposed to do.
- 40:24And pretty soon it becomes too overwhelming where he's lucky to
- 40:27come in and empty the trash can anymore while those zombie cells
- 40:30come together and we start to have clusters of zombie cells
- 40:32that then become what, cancers and things like that that cause
- 40:36degeneration in our body. So I'm giving you the simple
- 40:39understanding of how this works. Peptides allow your body to
- 40:43restart and give yourself some new janitors or to invigorate
- 40:47the janitor. Maybe you're giving a Red Bull
- 40:49and it allows you to have that that whole idea that your body
- 40:52can heal. So I'm going to use this.
- 40:53In October I tore my calf muscle.
- 40:55I had a CT scan in my calf. They told me it was 6 to 12
- 40:58weeks for the swelling to go down and then I'd be good to
- 41:00throw again or not throw at the time, but be good to walk. 3 1/2
- 41:04weeks later I went back. I had him circle exactly where
- 41:07the tear was in my calf. 3 1/2 weeks later I'm back and the guy
- 41:10thought he CT that he kept the wrong leg because it had
- 41:13completely healed. I had gone home, started
- 41:16treating it with with peptides immediately.
- 41:18I for my, my hamstring third week of 4th week of of training
- 41:24started treating with peptides and never took a day off.
- 41:26I pulled my growings, never took a day off.
- 41:29I've competed, I've completed competed at better levels.
- 41:32I've got a a whole system for 15 months or 15 weeks of of better
- 41:37throws that at meats getting better and better and better
- 41:39while I'm injured dealing with knees and everything else.
- 41:42So I've been invigorated over the last 2 1/2 years by
- 41:45peptides. Can I interject for one second?
- 41:48Yes, I love everything you're saying.
- 41:50I'm sitting over here. I'm like floating on my chair
- 41:52because you're speaking my language, right?
- 41:54I listen to this all the same things.
- 41:56I haven't applied it to my life to the level that you're talking
- 41:59about right now. So this is amazing.
- 42:02What I'm hearing, and anybody that's listening should be
- 42:06hearing, is there's no money in treating people the way you're
- 42:11treating yourself, right? There's money in giving them
- 42:14prescription drugs and following the status quo.
- 42:18The way we've been doing it for however long.
- 42:21Big Pharma's been controlling a lot of this country in that they
- 42:25just dole out prescriptions like they're candy.
- 42:28Well, Big Pharma wants to treat us to death and I want to live a
- 42:32better life. Literally want to treat you to
- 42:34death. Literally.
- 42:35And there was a time when medicine in this country, I want
- 42:38to believe, was way closer to wanting to do the right thing.
- 42:44Right. Nope.
- 42:45I, I, I think that the original intention, but very quickly
- 42:49people saw the opportunity of money.
- 42:52I think that I think that, but I think that that when you have
- 42:56there absolute power is absolute corruption and when you have
- 42:59power to to heal people, you have absolute power.
- 43:02If you have power to treat people, then you have the
- 43:05ability to have a return residual income, and that model
- 43:08started 400 years ago. Yeah, what do they say?
- 43:11Absolute power. Corrupts absolutely.
- 43:13So I, I'm a big believer that we, that we have allowed
- 43:17ourselves to be funneled. If you look at, at, at third
- 43:21world countries, we're all old enough to remember this.
- 43:24Do you guys remember the AIDS epidemic in the 80s and the
- 43:27early 90s? Absolutely everybody was going
- 43:29to die of AIDS. A lot of five people had AIDS.
- 43:32How come Africa's not wiped off the map?
- 43:34I'll tell you why. Because they're being treated
- 43:36with peptides type 1-2 and three diabetes being treated.
- 43:41Not just treated, but let's use the C word cured with peptides.
- 43:46So they don't have access to the pharmaceuticals that we have
- 43:48because there's no, there's no money in the third world country
- 43:51to have pharmaceuticals. So they're treating them with
- 43:54alternatives. Alternatives being the peptides
- 43:56for AIDS, hepatitis, AB and C diabetes, 123 cancers, all of
- 44:03these things. There's actually a peptide out
- 44:05there, PNC 127, that is called the cancer killer.
- 44:09Really. How come nobody talks about it?
- 44:11I've heard there's no money in it, man, no.
- 44:13Money in it. There's no money that's why I
- 44:15wanted $1000 in a treatment of of radiation or chemotherapy, a
- 44:21round of of chemotherapy. My dad's when I saw his bill was
- 44:2480,000 for his his. Round so so here's and this is
- 44:27this is me being who I am as far as have a conversationalist and
- 44:30whatnot. So with your dad, was, was he
- 44:33just not, was he not a believer in peptides or was it something
- 44:36that came? Out.
- 44:36I was new, I was new. I was just getting into the the
- 44:40understanding of it and it's a lot to learn.
- 44:43I spent 50,000 to take him down to Mexico.
- 44:48I went down there. The tumor shrank.
- 44:51But when he came back, the oncologist told my dad that if
- 44:53he continued the alternative treatments, that my dad was
- 44:55going to die and that he wouldn't treat him anymore.
- 44:57So he stopped. So he stopped.
- 44:59That's because he believed he believed the medical
- 45:02professional. Even though we had a proof model
- 45:07that those cancers were the cells were shrinking, that the
- 45:10tumors had shrunk, right. And he gave himself back to the
- 45:15conventional because he was, he was scared.
- 45:17He didn't want to. He didn't want to die.
- 45:19Yeah, yeah. So how do you how do you
- 45:21balance? How do you?
- 45:22Balance. The idea?
- 45:24Here's the one thing we know. Right.
- 45:29People that have had people have died with treatments of
- 45:32chemotherapy and radiation, right?
- 45:33Yep, Yep. Absolutely.
- 45:35We we know that. So we know that we know that
- 45:38healthy people have died because there's been mis mixed diagnosis
- 45:40and people that have been prescribed that people that have
- 45:43taken those treatments have died even though they had no cancers,
- 45:47right? Did the cancer kill them or did
- 45:48the treatment kill them? The treatment because if you
- 45:50think about it, I've heard, I don't know if this is accurate
- 45:52or not, but I've heard that all the all the people that died of
- 45:56COVID died in hospitals or under doctor's care.
- 45:58None of them died at home. Correct, and most of them were
- 46:01put on ventilators. Right.
- 46:03Which what does that tell you? Like the big thing when I had
- 46:05COVID both times, the first time was they didn't want you laying
- 46:08on your back because you know, whatever the lungs and things
- 46:11like that, which is impossible. When you sleep, you don't know
- 46:13how you're sleeping, right? But that was and when I got it
- 46:17the first time, the big thing was I was over 50 and had
- 46:20asthma. So even if it went to the
- 46:23hospital stage, they were going to write me off anyway because
- 46:26my chances of survival were next to none.
- 46:27Because over 50 with asthma, not knowing how what a physically
- 46:31fit specimen I was. And they got money for every
- 46:34person that died in the hospital, right?
- 46:37Right, right. Yeah.
- 46:39Crazy man. Well, so, so this is my next
- 46:42adventure is I've really my life has always been about helping
- 46:45people and, and, and the longer I'm on this journey, the more I
- 46:49believe in it. So I actually own the website
- 46:52peptideguy.com and I'm two weeks away from two weeks away from
- 46:57launching that. I haven't launched it yet, but
- 46:59what it's going to be is it it takes a different approach.
- 47:03It's not a scientific approach, it's an informational port
- 47:05approach from someone who's who's been.
- 47:08Been there, done that. Who's been using them?
- 47:10Who has been studying them? Who?
- 47:11Who's had the trouble of understanding how to titrate up?
- 47:14How to titrate down? When to come off the cycle?
- 47:17When not to come off the cycle. How so?
- 47:18It's not a SO, so it's not a continuous.
- 47:21No. Well, so it isn't because you're
- 47:24you have receptor sites that you can burn out and you don't ever
- 47:27want to burn out a receptor sites.
- 47:28OK, now that we've explained what it is and how it works, and
- 47:33I challenge everybody to rewind us, I'm going to listen to it
- 47:35again. You just told 2 incredible
- 47:37success stories of recovery from horrible injuries that were not
- 47:43related to Big Pharma, not related to drugs that were not
- 47:47invasive to your life and a complete 100% success story
- 47:52right, right yes. So now explain how that what you
- 47:56call a cycle worked yes. What is a peptide?
- 47:59Is it a pill? Is it liquid?
- 48:01Is it? What is it?
- 48:03So the peptides do come in oral format.
- 48:05The the problem is, is people are scared of of injections and
- 48:09even though the needles are very small, they're the size of of
- 48:12diabetic needles. OK, so let let let them
- 48:14understand. So is a is a peptide needle the
- 48:16same size as like a testosterone?
- 48:18No, okay, smaller, much smaller. It's the size of a diabetic
- 48:22needle, which is. Like I'm not diabetic so I have
- 48:24no idea. So a testosterone needle will go
- 48:27down to like 21 gauge which is like about a pencil lead,
- 48:30whereas a diabetic needle is the size of a hair.
- 48:35Okay, that explains it. Thank you.
- 48:37Yes. So the problem with oral
- 48:40peptides is that when you ingest anything, the first thing it has
- 48:44to go through is your stomach, your, your gastrointestinal,
- 48:47sure, your juices. So it it, it eliminates a lot of
- 48:51that stuff. That's why when you take a lot
- 48:52of vitamins, you're passing a lot of the vitamins right
- 48:56through because you're just not getting a chance to, to, to
- 48:58allow them to, to be cycled into your body.
- 49:01So a lot of the stuff that we take as which you should be
- 49:05still be taking your multivitamins and everything.
- 49:06I have a very good regiment, but that only a portion of that's
- 49:10getting absorbed. So with peptides, if you take
- 49:13oral peptides, the efficacy of the peptides is lost in the
- 49:17stomach gastrointestinal. So you do an injection and you
- 49:21can inject it into the love handle.
- 49:23I inject into like if I have a pain point, I inject right into
- 49:26it. And it depends on the peptide
- 49:28and depends on what you're trying to get.
- 49:30There's peptides for skin, hair, nails, scarring.
- 49:34There's peptides for for tissues, cellular regeneration,
- 49:39weight loss. A lot of people don't realize
- 49:41that Wygovy, Ozempic, tirzepatide, all the weight loss
- 49:44is a peptide and it's the first one that they've actually FDA
- 49:48approved because they found out they can make money on them,
- 49:50right? Right.
- 49:51So if they can make money on it and then they can try to figure
- 49:54out how to force everyone out, they're going to they're going
- 49:56to do that. Well, peptides are are like
- 49:58vitamins. You can get them online.
- 50:00You can get them. You just have to understand them
- 50:02and make sure you're getting from a reputable source.
- 50:04So, so I'm going to stop you for a second.
- 50:05So Ozempic, we've heard of like a ton of fallout from Ozempic
- 50:09because it originally was used for a diabetes, then it was used
- 50:12for weight loss because a lot, there's a lot of side effects
- 50:14now that are coming to light, kind of like with vaping, right?
- 50:16Vaping is safer than cigarettes, which we're all kind of called
- 50:18BS on to begin with anyway. But now that's become more and
- 50:21more apparent that it's the harmful.
- 50:24Let me ask you. Let me ask you a question,
- 50:25Chris. Is eating harmful for you?
- 50:28Absolutely. No, it's not.
- 50:30It's how you eat. Well, OK, yeah.
- 50:32Yeah, let's use this. You eat to live, right?
- 50:35Sure. So peptides are naturally
- 50:37occurring in your body, but if you are trying to lose weight
- 50:41and you do nothing else right, you're going to muscle waste.
- 50:45Oh yes, exactly. So a lot of times people are
- 50:47like, I'm going to take this injection, it's going to be a
- 50:49miracle, right? They don't move, they don't
- 50:51change their diet, right? They don't.
- 50:53They don't take the necessary precautions to allow them to
- 50:56have the good. Point too that is a.
- 50:58Great put there. If I drive my car, I can drive
- 51:01my car. If I go over the mileage on my
- 51:03oil, I'm OK until I get to a certain point, right?
- 51:06Right. Yep.
- 51:07Well, the the fallout from these drugs is because people don't
- 51:10want to put in the effort it needs to to do what it needs to
- 51:13be done. Peptides are generally safe.
- 51:17It's hard to OD on a peptide because it's a protein.
- 51:20It's not a medicine. There's no it's, it's not a
- 51:23medicine. If it was a medicine, it would
- 51:24be a different kind of regulation.
- 51:25That's an important point that I don't think we've distinguished,
- 51:28so I'm glad you just said that. For sure, people have this idea
- 51:32that if if it was a medicine, there would be no way to buy it
- 51:36online. And they're all over online
- 51:38because they're not for human consumption.
- 51:40They're not for human use. And that's that's the bottom
- 51:43line. I would never tell anybody to
- 51:45use them. They're for research purposes
- 51:47only, whatever. But when you come down to the
- 51:51Ozempic tirzepatide and the way Govi Ozempic has muscle wasting,
- 51:57if you don't give yourself the necessary vitamins, the proteins
- 52:00and do your movements, you're going to have wasting.
- 52:02It's going to have problems, absolutely.
- 52:04And This is why it's important for me as I'm posting on
- 52:08Facebook, I'm getting blown up on my DMS and I spent half the
- 52:12day answering that stuff because people have so many questions
- 52:14about this. They heard this or they heard
- 52:16this, they heard this. That's why I created or I'm
- 52:18creating This site is I just wanted to put a, a practical
- 52:22approach to it that can answer these questions and help people
- 52:25get through because I believe that if I can reach one person,
- 52:27I was 370 lbs. I was a 44 shirt and a 44 pants
- 52:33and a 5X shirt and with peptides and good eating habits and
- 52:39working out and moving right, I changed my lifestyle and I'm now
- 52:42a 34 which I haven't been a 34 since I was in. 8th grade I was
- 52:45300 hundred and 40. Pound loss and I've maintained
- 52:49it through all of the things that I've gone through,
- 52:52including death, holidays, son's birth and I.
- 52:55And I didn't work out for almost a year after a little.
- 52:57Yeah. Yeah, I know we talked about
- 53:00that. But again, so that makes more
- 53:01sense then. So it's not necessarily the drug
- 53:03itself, it's the it's, it's because people are lazy.
- 53:07They expect results, they expect results.
- 53:10They want results in a can, they want results in a pill, they
- 53:12want results in an injection. And the reality is, is that
- 53:15these are tools. A mechanic is only as good as
- 53:17this toolbox. But if you have a Snap on
- 53:19toolbox and you only use one tool out of that toolbox, that
- 53:22doesn't make you a good mechanic.
- 53:23Right. If you give me that Snap On
- 53:25toolbox, it'll collect dust most of the time until you come over
- 53:29or somebody like my dad comes over, my brother that actually
- 53:32knows how to use tools because I spent my formative years
- 53:35learning to play a guitar. So I understand what you're
- 53:38talking about for sure. I like your analogies and I I
- 53:42like the alternative side of it. I'd definitely like to talk to
- 53:45you more about that side of it. Absolutely or.
- 53:48We could do a whole another show on peptides alone.
- 53:50Oh my God. This is just the.
- 53:52Alternative once once you once you get the peptide guy up and
- 53:56running, we'll have you back on and we'll just we'll just talk
- 53:58about the different types of peptides and.
- 54:00Yeah, I thought we were going to talk about pools for an hour and
- 54:02a half, which was totally cool with me, and then we went down
- 54:05what we like to call a squirrel moment, and it's like, holy holy
- 54:08shit, Brian Morris is cool as fuck.
- 54:11Right. Well, yeah, well.
- 54:12That's why I bucked. I've been bugging him for I
- 54:14love, go ahead. I love the pool business.
- 54:17But I'll be honest with you that the thing I love even more is
- 54:21watching it. So there's two journeys that
- 54:22people are in life that are on. They're on a transformative
- 54:26journey, which is what I'm on, or they're on a preventative
- 54:28journey, right as we get past our 30s, we have to make that
- 54:32decision. Are we on a preventative journey
- 54:34or transformative journey? Every using the the bullshit
- 54:37word biohacking. Yeah, I call it bio
- 54:40optimization. Forget the biohacking, I'm not
- 54:42hacking shit. And here's the reason why.
- 54:44Our bodies already know what they're doing.
- 54:46It's perfection from the start, right?
- 54:48And that's it. So there's I have a doctor
- 54:50friend of mine, he became a medical doctor because his
- 54:54family had a history of Parkinson's, dementia and
- 54:56Alzheimer's. He started becoming a doctor 8
- 54:59years old because he saw what it did to his family.
- 55:01So he spent his entire life learning the medical profession
- 55:05to be able to prevent that in himself.
- 55:07So he's been on a preventative journey since he was 8 years
- 55:10old. Wow man.
- 55:11I've been on the ups and downs. I've been at the top of my
- 55:14sport. I've been at the lowest point
- 55:16health wise where at 370 I was pre diabetic.
- 55:19I was getting out of bed, my feet would swell up, I'd have to
- 55:22crawl on my knees to the bathroom until the blood started
- 55:24moving. I was embarrassed but I didn't
- 55:26let people know that you know, and I just do my thing.
- 55:28So I'm on a transformative journey but the transformative
- 55:31journey for me is almost done. And now I'm on the preventative
- 55:34journey because I want to have more time with my son.
- 55:36But you know what? People need to hear that first
- 55:38story that you said before. You said I'm on a transformative
- 55:42journey. There is so many people
- 55:43listening to this right now. That might be 300, four, 100
- 55:47lbs. And they're like, there's no
- 55:48hope for me, right? This guy's not talking about me.
- 55:51You were that guy. Yeah, and by the and by the way.
- 55:53I am that guy. And by the way.
- 55:55If I, if I slip my, my, my body type, I've always been big.
- 56:01I, I, I've just managed to use it in, in different ways.
- 56:04So like when I threw competitively, I was, I was 350.
- 56:09I was a lot healthier. But then when I got injured, I
- 56:11would drop down to, you know, I, I, I carried weight between 260
- 56:14and 290 as my normal weight. And now I'm carrying that 2:30
- 56:18to 2:45 as my normal weight. And it's weird.
- 56:21When I went in to, to, to put on a pair of pants and the guy
- 56:23goes, what size? You guys said I need a 36.
- 56:25He goes, no, you need a 34. I said, son, I haven't worn a
- 56:2830. And I use the word son because
- 56:29I'm. 50 now. I said I haven't worn a 34 since
- 56:32I was in 8th grade. He goes, I'll tell you what, if
- 56:33you put these on and they don't fit, I'll buy your pants for
- 56:36you. I put them on and I gave out the
- 56:38loudest woo woo in the in the I walked out and I was like kick
- 56:42me out. I'm wearing a pair of 30 fours,
- 56:44baby. I was in 8th grade and I was 188
- 56:49lbs and learn a 34 in 8th grade. That was the last time I put on
- 56:53a pair of 30 fours. Yeah.
- 56:54So when so when Mike mentioned earlier the amount of people
- 56:56listen to the show, we're in 19 countries now, 20 O20, I'm
- 56:59sorry, 120 countries now. So you know, we're not our reach
- 57:04is as far which is cool. So you that part of your life,
- 57:08that is something definitely when we have you back on, you
- 57:11know, we can kind of touch because we've kind of Mike and
- 57:13Mike knows my story and stuff. You know too, that I was at the
- 57:16time what, when I was drinking probably about two 30s, you
- 57:19know, and then before the next church is about 2:16 and then
- 57:21you know, so where approach, our end game is the same, but our
- 57:25approach is different just because it wasn't the knowledge
- 57:27that we have now with everything that's social media wise because
- 57:30that's one of the benefits technologies, learning all we
- 57:32can learn from. Well, the cool thing for me is I
- 57:36listen to this kind of stuff all the time, and to meet somebody
- 57:40who has done the same thing and then applied it to their life,
- 57:43you went one step further than I did in that you had some serious
- 57:47injuries that you needed to try something different, right?
- 57:51I don't want to go the route that everybody else goes.
- 57:53So let's try this and see if it works.
- 57:55And holy crap, not only did it work, it worked either twice as
- 57:59fast or 70 or 80% faster in some cases.
- 58:04So not only is it worth trying, it works right.
- 58:08Well, it goes back to this too is right before, well, the show
- 58:12started. I just finished another session
- 58:14of hyperbaric oxygen and, and I'm a big believer in oxygen
- 58:18therapy. I started using something called
- 58:20EWAT, which is exercise oxygen therapy.
- 58:23You'll see it in the in, in movies where they're on a
- 58:25treadmill or something. They have a mask on and they're,
- 58:27they're getting well. We, we, as we walk and breathe,
- 58:30we're breathing 18 to 22% oxygen.
- 58:32So when you get a chance to hyperoxygenate your body, you
- 58:34can actually infiltrate your body with oxygen and push it to
- 58:38that 90% under hyperbaric. You're at 100% under pressure
- 58:42and what that does is that actually fills your body, not
- 58:45just your, your, your, your breath, but your veins, your
- 58:49blood, your bones, your skin. It just hyperoxygenates
- 58:52everything. So it allows things to move
- 58:53better. So when you're doing, what do?
- 58:54You feel like when you're done with.
- 58:56That. What's that?
- 58:57What do you feel like when you're done with that?
- 58:59Amazing. Like 20.
- 59:02Years young, like 20 years old. Well, no, it's it's it's a
- 59:06clarity because your OK your body is so well oxygenated that
- 59:10things are just firing differently like my brain over
- 59:13the last. Sentences are firing quicker.
- 59:15Yep. OK.
- 59:16And, and so when you're doing regenerative therapies like like
- 59:23stem cells or regenerative factors or peptides, because it
- 59:26helps with the circulation, this stuff getting to where it needs
- 59:30to go. Now, the first thing that it
- 59:31gets attacked when you use peptides is places of
- 59:34inflammation. So that's the idea of like the
- 59:38BPC 157TB500, which is a lot of people are using for recovery is
- 59:43that actually works on inflammation.
- 59:46So it actually helps to reduce those, those pain points.
- 59:49And again, our body is being told we, our, our brain has no
- 59:52pain receptors. If I cut open your head and I
- 59:55worked on your brain, I would not have to give you pain.
- 59:56Medication, well, they did it back in the day.
- 59:58They used to. They did lobotomies on people.
- 1:00:01Correct before. They knew that wasn't, you know,
- 1:00:03that's really correct. Let me ask you this.
- 1:00:06Chris and I both have the same injury, right?
- 1:00:08We have degenerative disc disease in our neck, so you know
- 1:00:12the bones are starting to rub together.
- 1:00:14What does that do for something like that?
- 1:00:16Well, it's going to, first of all, it's going to reduce
- 1:00:18inflammation. It's going to help to actually
- 1:00:20deal with the the tissues around it.
- 1:00:22You're going to need to go the one step further into the
- 1:00:25regenerative factors and actually have regenerative
- 1:00:27factors injected into the points like my knees are osteoarthritis
- 1:00:30and that's what I've been treating on those.
- 1:00:33And then do intravenous. But then what you'll do is your
- 1:00:36peptide stack will actually help with inflammation, the the
- 1:00:40ability of fluid to move and actually healing and delivering
- 1:00:44the blood to those areas that help those tissues.
- 1:00:48Nice, so it's kind of like it's the same kind of concept as stem
- 1:00:51cells, but peptides are more available than the stem cells
- 1:00:54are because isn't stem cells. Correct me if I'm wrong, but
- 1:00:56isn't that something you inject to help regenerate and, you
- 1:01:00know, repair? Stem cells can become anything.
- 1:01:03So, so you can stem cell, that's why we call them regenerative
- 1:01:07factors. They don't, they don't have a
- 1:01:09personality. So essentially wherever you
- 1:01:11inject them, they go to the places where you need them and
- 1:01:14then they take on the personality of like your
- 1:01:17cartilage or they take on the personality of a of a blood
- 1:01:19vessel. Or that's why they found that
- 1:01:22they can regrow somebody's ear inside somebody's stomach.
- 1:01:25Because if you give it the right signalling, you can actually
- 1:01:27grow something because they could become anything.
- 1:01:29That's what stem cells can become.
- 1:01:31We become people from stem cells, right?
- 1:01:34Peptides are proteins that aid in the, the, the way your body
- 1:01:39processes. So it's, it's, it's just, it's
- 1:01:42just an aid for that. And a lot of them are short.
- 1:01:45They're, they're short lived. So they have a very short half
- 1:01:47life, which is why you take them on a certain like I take a a
- 1:01:50certain things I'm. Glad you described it like that
- 1:01:52because now it makes way more sense to me.
- 1:01:55Yep. So I guess.
- 1:01:58So a peptide cycle would be what like like 7 days on five?
- 1:02:02Days we never. Finished that, Yeah.
- 1:02:03Yeah. Well, what's different?
- 1:02:04For every peptide, so there's some stuff that I'm going to
- 1:02:07take for 8 weeks and then I'll take 8 weeks off.
- 1:02:09There's some stuff I'm going to take five days a week, take two
- 1:02:11days off. I'll do that for six to 10
- 1:02:12weeks. It depends on what my needs are.
- 1:02:15And this is what's crucial is that there's no cut and dry for
- 1:02:20every single person. This is something you have to
- 1:02:23learn your body. OK, so if we, so if I started
- 1:02:26the peptides for my, my degenerating neck, right, my
- 1:02:29stuff. So it's one of those things you
- 1:02:32just kind of kind of got to do it and and see how you feel to
- 1:02:35understand what the cycle is. Well, there's a baseline.
- 1:02:38OK. And, and I could build you a, a
- 1:02:40stack, OK, and then tell you how to do it for the next six
- 1:02:44months. I'll tell you when to stop, when
- 1:02:46to start, what to take at certain times.
- 1:02:49They're not anabolic steroids, they're not medicines, they're
- 1:02:52not any of that stuff. So protein going to have is
- 1:02:54protein when we, when we stop taking them, it's called a
- 1:02:57washout period. Essentially what it's doing,
- 1:02:58it's allowing those receptor sites to calm down, not be
- 1:03:02infiltrated so that when you restart again that they can
- 1:03:04absorb all that stuff again. Because we build up an immunity
- 1:03:08just like we do. If we take something over and
- 1:03:10over again, we're going to build up an immunity towards it,
- 1:03:12right? So that's what we're trying to
- 1:03:14avoid is ever building up an immunity towards it.
- 1:03:17Now we're going to see, just so you guys know, in the next 10
- 1:03:20years, we're going to see things happen on a cellular level at a
- 1:03:23rate that we've never seen. They're going to unlock certain
- 1:03:26things like the ability of the body to continually build muscle
- 1:03:30that's going to make anabolic steroids look like a 1970s Pinto
- 1:03:33sitting on a shelf. Wow.
- 1:03:34So where we're heading with this stuff is so far advanced.
- 1:03:38This is just the opportunity now to get people on that on that
- 1:03:41journey and and start to feel good about themselves.
- 1:03:44At 50, I feel better now than I did in my 30s.
- 1:03:47I'm benching over 3. 100 that from so many people now and I
- 1:03:50want to feel that same way right.
- 1:03:51I mean, I'm not like decrepit, but having Chris will tell you
- 1:03:56this neck it, it messes with things you want to do a lot of
- 1:04:00times, right? It makes you hesitate to do
- 1:04:02certain things for sure. And after an injury, like when I
- 1:04:06went to go throw on Saturday, my first few throws was is my knee
- 1:04:10going to hold up well? After I got past the first few
- 1:04:12throws, I'm like, hey, I'm good. My 5th throw I threw better than
- 1:04:16I did six weeks before my injury and I haven't thrown in a meet
- 1:04:19in six weeks. I haven't thrown in a practice,
- 1:04:21a full throw and then on my 6th throw I blow up my hernia.
- 1:04:25But I'm like, OK, go get it fixed and come back next season.
- 1:04:28I'm not at work. I'm 48 hours post surgery right
- 1:04:32now. So if you look at this, this is
- 1:04:34not me. I'm I'm not like sitting in
- 1:04:36there sulking about it. I went to work the next day.
- 1:04:39Yeah, I'm, I went right to therapy.
- 1:04:41I'm ready to go. And here I am talking to you.
- 1:04:42I'm just excited as I. Will be Yeah, when I texted him
- 1:04:45earlier, yeah, I texted him the other day.
- 1:04:46I was like, hey, dude, I know you know, all things considered,
- 1:04:48you still down for days? Like, absolutely.
- 1:04:51I threw myself, I'll throw myself under the bus.
- 1:04:53Before we recorded the show, I told him.
- 1:04:55I said I'd be laying on the couch and somebody would be
- 1:04:57waiting on me hand and foot, and I'd be crying like a Sissy
- 1:05:00because you're going the modern route, right?
- 1:05:04So I think you just proved that. Here's a guy who 48 hours ago
- 1:05:07was literally having surgery on one of the worst hernias anybody
- 1:05:11could ever have, and now he's sitting here and he's got all
- 1:05:14the energy in the world talking to us.
- 1:05:16And you're not on painkillers? I was going to say that.
- 1:05:18Yeah, not on painkillers at all. Nope, I haven't taken a single
- 1:05:22thing. So they gave me they gave me
- 1:05:24morphine at the hospital and then they gave, they shot me up
- 1:05:27with one shot of fentanyl. Then they gave me some, some D
- 1:05:31thing. I don't remember what it was.
- 1:05:33And I and I was like, they gave me 3 prescriptions to come home
- 1:05:36when they're sitting on the counter.
- 1:05:37They haven't even come out of the bags.
- 1:05:38I just, I don't believe in that. I don't even take aspirin.
- 1:05:41I I don't take cough medicines. I don't take aspirins.
- 1:05:43I don't believe in that. The other thing is, is that
- 1:05:45narcotics have a tendency to block you up.
- 1:05:47So for the last two days I've been just like waiting to get
- 1:05:51past the morphine shots from Saturday 'cause I'm like the
- 1:05:55Dilaudid is what they gave me. That Dilaudid was the only stuff
- 1:05:57that even worked, which was crazy.
- 1:05:59So I. Couldn't think of it.
- 1:06:00I had it on the tip of my tongue.
- 1:06:01Yeah, me too. And I'll agree with you, the
- 1:06:03narcotics block you up. Because I'll tell you, when I
- 1:06:06told my recovery story, it blocked me up so bad that I was
- 1:06:10suffering from psychosis, right? So my body was just in chaos on
- 1:06:15a level I can't even describe. I was just next to death, but in
- 1:06:19the middle of all that I was losing my mind at the same time.
- 1:06:22So it was a whole lot of fun during that.
- 1:06:24Well, the weird thing is this doctors and, and, and like your
- 1:06:26dad, like he believed in conventional medicine, because
- 1:06:29that's ingrained in this from from day number one, right?
- 1:06:32Like day number one, it's doctors.
- 1:06:34Doctors know best. Doctors are the best, right?
- 1:06:36You go to the doctor for physicals.
- 1:06:37You go for you have a cold, you have a flu, you know you have
- 1:06:40pain, all that kind of stuff. It's all we're always going and
- 1:06:43gravitating towards medical professionals because they're
- 1:06:45the ones that have degrees. There's the one that went the
- 1:06:48school and all that kind of jazz.
- 1:06:49They're. And what did we talk about with
- 1:06:51Peter from Australia? There's two countries on Earth
- 1:06:54that allow pharmaceutical pharmaceuticals to advertise on
- 1:06:58TV. the United States. Yep.
- 1:07:00And new. Zealand and New Zealand?
- 1:07:01Or was it Australia? New Zealand.
- 1:07:02The only two. That's it.
- 1:07:04The only two in the entire world that allow pharmaceutical ads.
- 1:07:07So the reason I say that is because every day it's inundated
- 1:07:11in you that Brian said it earlier, you need this for this,
- 1:07:15you need this for that. You need this for the other
- 1:07:17thing. If you're watching regular TV
- 1:07:20like every other commercial, is a.
- 1:07:22Drug, right? Well, and think about in the 50s
- 1:07:24when the TV first started coming out, right?
- 1:07:25What they advertise Geritol. I don't know what the hell
- 1:07:28Geritol is for, but right, Remember that you see those like
- 1:07:31Geritol, you know, a spoonful, you know, and Mary Poppins and
- 1:07:34Mary Poppins, a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go
- 1:07:37down. It's in a Disney movie that is a
- 1:07:39classic. So it's all about medicate,
- 1:07:41medicate, medicate, medicate. And I'm a guilt.
- 1:07:43I'm guilty. Of it and look at what we do.
- 1:07:45What do we do? We start giving kids oh, you
- 1:07:48have a headache, we start giving them aspirin and then we
- 1:07:50diagnose these kids because we want to put them in boxes.
- 1:07:53You know, we start diagnosing if I was in today's world, I would
- 1:07:56have been diagnosed ADHD back and I would have been medicated
- 1:08:00and that would have stifled everything that I grew up to be
- 1:08:03the person I am. But we start giving these kids
- 1:08:06medications with altars and then not just that, we give them all
- 1:08:09this processed bullshit that we put into them from from the the
- 1:08:14cereals on up. We've been very fortunate with
- 1:08:16little B that Jess and I have a very strict understanding of of
- 1:08:20what we're giving him. He's eaten.
- 1:08:21No, he's eaten no cereals. He's had no baby foods.
- 1:08:24He gets no formulas. He still breastfeeds and instead
- 1:08:27of juices and waters, he gets electrolytes.
- 1:08:30And I have a pedia version of electrolytes that he gets three
- 1:08:33times a day and he loves it. But he will never get juice.
- 1:08:36He doesn't drink milk. He drinks very, very, very, very
- 1:08:39little milk, if he gets any at all.
- 1:08:40But his process his his food. He started eating solid food at
- 1:08:448 months. He was eating avocado, he was
- 1:08:46eating a steak, he was eating lamb.
- 1:08:48He was eating anything that we could that we would make that
- 1:08:52would be wholesome, that would be.
- 1:08:54But he has not gotten anything processed.
- 1:08:56He gets no, none of this bullshit cereal because it's
- 1:08:59fortified with iron. And that was the first thing
- 1:09:00that all you need to get him iron fortified cereal.
- 1:09:02Now it's trash. Yeah.
- 1:09:04It's trash and. And my little dude's a bad ass.
- 1:09:06Right now I love. Right and see, and, and here's
- 1:09:09the here's here's the thing about Brian, cause I've known
- 1:09:11him for so long. There were times when I'd be
- 1:09:12with Brian and we'd stop at at McDonald's and he would get, you
- 1:09:15know, 4 big marks, 3 diet Cokes, 6 fries.
- 1:09:18So that shows you the transformation of not only who
- 1:09:22he has an individual, but just the life.
- 1:09:24Because I don't call it like you said, biohacking instead of
- 1:09:26biohacking is bad bioengineering, right Bio.
- 1:09:29Optimization. Right, So my thing is, it's not
- 1:09:32a diet, it's a lifestyle. Diets don't work.
- 1:09:34Lifestyles do Change your life, change your lifestyle and and
- 1:09:38you'll be better for it at the end of the day.
- 1:09:40So like you said, instead of biohacking, it's bioengineering.
- 1:09:42It's the same concept, right? So it's what you put in is, is
- 1:09:47how you feel when like Nick and I stopped breads, bad starches,
- 1:09:51crackers. I've cheated a little bit on
- 1:09:52crackers because you know, but and we've had a couple little
- 1:09:55slip UPS. Everything in moderation.
- 1:09:57Right on the starches and the tortillas and stuff, but.
- 1:10:00It's not a slip up, Chris. It's life, man.
- 1:10:02I know, I know, but you know, it's so and it's we've, I've
- 1:10:06noticed a difference because my neck would, I would, it would
- 1:10:08tangle and go numb and stuff like that.
- 1:10:10So the part up there. But now I'm still trying to
- 1:10:11figure out what's what's the middle of the back pain and
- 1:10:14where that coming from, which I think it's a direct result of
- 1:10:17the neck. It's just I don't have the
- 1:10:18inflammation because I stopped a little bad starches and stuff.
- 1:10:20So the whole pep type thing, which I've been super interested
- 1:10:24in and I had no idea how deep you dove into it.
- 1:10:27I mean, you showed me Nikki and I your regiment a couple weeks
- 1:10:30ago as far as supplements and peptides and all kind of jazz.
- 1:10:32So I knew you knew had some understanding of it.
- 1:10:36But this is just like. I spend, I spend 2 to 3 hours a
- 1:10:40day in research and that research I've surrounded myself
- 1:10:43with doctors that are in this field to the point where when I
- 1:10:46came home from the, from the hospital, went to hyperbaric.
- 1:10:49I was posting online, I had a doctor here doing regenerative
- 1:10:53factors because he was leaving town the next day.
- 1:10:55He drove to my house an hour and 20 minutes to do regenerative
- 1:10:58factors for me at 8:00 at night that that is unheard of.
- 1:11:01And he just said, hey, I saw that you were in the hospital.
- 1:11:03Let's get you some regenerative factors before I leave for
- 1:11:05Florida. And The thing is, is once you
- 1:11:08know, you talk about putting yourself with the right people.
- 1:11:11It's about running yourself with the ability to, to, to have this
- 1:11:14knowledge. So if I have a question, I can
- 1:11:16get an answer. Here's the crazy part.
- 1:11:19I deal with medical doctors that study this stuff all the time
- 1:11:21that come to me for answers for things because I've actually
- 1:11:24gone deeper in certain subjects than they have.
- 1:11:26Nice, that's awesome. That is really cool.
- 1:11:30I, I learned so much and I'm just sitting here thinking, I
- 1:11:33learned just enough to know I got to go back and listen to it
- 1:11:35again, right? So I'm like Chris, I've been
- 1:11:39super interested in it and I've heard just bits and pieces from
- 1:11:43different doctors. Like I think Doctor Rhonda
- 1:11:45Patrick talks about it a lot, but she only talks about a
- 1:11:48little portion. You just did a deep dive on what
- 1:11:51they are, how they're used. I understand them way better now
- 1:11:54and I'm super curious about talking to you and trying
- 1:11:58something like that to just give it a shot.
- 1:12:00You know what, What can it hurt? It's a protein.
- 1:12:02And if it helps, yay. You know, now I can do things
- 1:12:05that I wanted to do that I have been putting off, right?
- 1:12:08Well, here's the number one thing that when I post, I post
- 1:12:11online, I post about my journey and I and I just do it because
- 1:12:15I'm excited. And like I said, if I can reach
- 1:12:17one person, I have people that are going to the oxygen Wellness
- 1:12:20clinic where I go now because they saw what I'm going through
- 1:12:23and now they're doing therapies and they're sending me messages.
- 1:12:26Hey, thank you for posting that. Right?
- 1:12:27So that's why I post as much as I do.
- 1:12:29But here's the one thing that that comes up every single time.
- 1:12:32What's it cost? And all I can tell people is,
- 1:12:35what's it cost to be sick? Yeah.
- 1:12:37OK, I did it there. There's things cost money, but I
- 1:12:41would rather not be tied up in bed.
- 1:12:44I would rather not be in pain. I'd rather not be be aching and
- 1:12:47worried about what's going to break on me.
- 1:12:49I see a 65 year old man and I think to myself, my son's going
- 1:12:53to be 15 when I'm 65. Do I want to be the old man
- 1:12:57that's shuffling around at 65 or do I want to be that badass dad
- 1:13:00that's still competing in the shop in the discus?
- 1:13:03You know, I'm, I'm 50. I'm, I'm throwing up weight in
- 1:13:06the gym that I didn't throw up since I was in my 30s.
- 1:13:09I feel good. Yes, I, I've gone through some
- 1:13:11injuries because I'm pushing myself to another level, But I,
- 1:13:13I'm, I'm doing that intentionally.
- 1:13:15I'm doing it because I'm like, I don't want to hold back.
- 1:13:18I want to, I want to give all that I can give.
- 1:13:21I don't have, you know, so much time.
- 1:13:24Not to interrupt you, but I don't think I can stress enough
- 1:13:26that this is a guy that didn't live his whole life like this.
- 1:13:29This is a guy that went from being broken down and overweight
- 1:13:32at an unprecedented level to sitting here talking to you
- 1:13:36saying I'm going to the gym and I'm kicking ass, right?
- 1:13:39Yeah, this is like 2 years, right?
- 1:13:40So. Impressive your journey.
- 1:13:42August 4th, 2022 was the primary and we were watching the video
- 1:13:46and I told my dad I was like, I'm like I would turn this
- 1:13:48around August 5th. My biggest problem wasn't even
- 1:13:52junk food or sodas. I don't drink that or eat that.
- 1:13:55My biggest thing was I eat pasta five days a week.
- 1:13:57I love bread and I drink a gallon of milk a day and that
- 1:14:00was pretty much what I was. I was a pasta, bread and milk
- 1:14:02drinker and. I'm allergic to dairy so I don't
- 1:14:05do that, but I love breads and pastas man.
- 1:14:11He froze. I do believe so, Brian.
- 1:14:18I lost you guys for a second. So.
- 1:14:20Yeah, you froze up for a second. So, so I ate a lot of pasta, ate
- 1:14:24a lot of bread and I drink a lot of milk and that was pretty much
- 1:14:27it. And and that's, you know, what
- 1:14:28it was that got me to where I was.
- 1:14:30I would sit down and just eat and eat and eat.
- 1:14:32I love macaroni and cheese. I'd eat macaroni and cheese, you
- 1:14:34know, 3-4 times a week. And so I, I turned myself on 20
- 1:14:39days starting on the 5th of August 2022.
- 1:14:42By August 25th, I had already lost 20 lbs, hadn't touched the
- 1:14:46gym. I go to the gym on August 20,
- 1:14:4825th, I get on the elliptical. Now this is a guy who used to to
- 1:14:51to venture over 500. He's just squat over 7.
- 1:14:53I was power lifter. I was a thrower.
- 1:14:55I get on the elliptical for 15 minutes and I feel like I'm
- 1:14:57going to die. I walk outside after throwing up
- 1:15:00and I call my dad and I'm like, you're never going to fucking
- 1:15:02believe this. And he's like he's like he's
- 1:15:05like he's like, well, just remember and goes back to this
- 1:15:08by inch is a cinch, you know, and that's what he said.
- 1:15:11So I would just progressively, hey, make sure I'm I'm eating
- 1:15:15right And a year and a half later, so that was August 4th.
- 1:15:19I started at two at 370 on November 13th in 2023.
- 1:15:25Fifteen months, right, 15 months, I was down to a 245.
- 1:15:29Wow, yeah. Congratulations, lifestyle
- 1:15:33change, man. And that was before the peptides
- 1:15:34and before the supplements, right?
- 1:15:35That was just. Peptides started, I started
- 1:15:37getting, well, my dad had started getting sick in that
- 1:15:40September and I started getting into the peptides.
- 1:15:41I started using very small amount of stuff at that point.
- 1:15:46That's what set me off on that, that thing.
- 1:15:48And with his cancers, I went deep into it, started realizing,
- 1:15:51and then I was my own Guinea pig.
- 1:15:53So, I mean, yeah, there still wasn't.
- 1:15:55There's still even to this day, you've said it.
- 1:15:57There's so many little tidbits and snippets out there, but
- 1:16:00nobody really gets into it because they're not really
- 1:16:03promoting something they've done.
- 1:16:04They're just promoting stuff that they're seeing 'cause
- 1:16:06they're trying to sell you some shit.
- 1:16:07Yeah. Realistically, or in her case,
- 1:16:09like she read about it, right? Yeah, yeah, I've read about how
- 1:16:11people are doing this and it was, yeah.
- 1:16:13Maybe there was a peer review paper or something.
- 1:16:16I have an entire refrigerator. He does.
- 1:16:18It looks like a pharmacy. He does that's he showed it to
- 1:16:21me. Nick and I were on a FaceTime
- 1:16:23with him and he's like, hey, check out my regimen and we're
- 1:16:24just. Like what?
- 1:16:26That's awesome. Just.
- 1:16:27Yeah, it's, I'm just so happy it worked for you, you know, to
- 1:16:30think about where you were and where you're at now.
- 1:16:33And for Christ's sake, you had surgery 48 hours ago and you're
- 1:16:36still full of all this energy to talk about how positive this is.
- 1:16:40That's awesome, man. Yeah.
- 1:16:41No, it's just part of it's. Just because it's Brian Morris,
- 1:16:43that's just, that's just, you know, that's just his
- 1:16:46personality, you know, now it's. Helping people.
- 1:16:51I feel like I said, I fully believe that after 30,
- 1:16:53especially in our 40s, I, I put up a post the other day and I
- 1:16:57was like, Hey, I need a referral for a cardiologist.
- 1:17:00And I cannot believe how many of my friends in their mid 40s to
- 1:17:03mid 50s are already seeing cardiologists.
- 1:17:06And there's a hundred and something referrals on there
- 1:17:09from people who are actually seeing cardiologists.
- 1:17:11And I'm like, therein lies the problem.
- 1:17:13We're, we're all on this journey of being transformative or, or
- 1:17:18preventative. And realistically, if you're
- 1:17:20not, you're just you're, you're on the pathway to just being
- 1:17:23that 65 year old man that's shuffling his feet.
- 1:17:26And I don't want to be that guy. And that nor do I.
- 1:17:29No, and that is the that is a perfect way to wrap this thing
- 1:17:32up. That's Brian Morse of We Fix
- 1:17:35Ugly Pools. You can find him on on YouTube
- 1:17:37at wefixuglypools.com, right or right or just at Brian Morris.
- 1:17:40He's there. Just go find him.
- 1:17:42We're going to have you back on. We're going to do a whole show
- 1:17:44on peptides. Once you get your website up and
- 1:17:46running, let me know and then we'll get that scheduled out.
- 1:17:49I've, you know, I've known you forever and ever.
- 1:17:51So none of this is a surprise of heart because I know how you see
- 1:17:54something and you, you're just, you're dialed in.
- 1:17:56You're kind of like me like that.
- 1:17:58Mike, you have any any thoughts about for Brian before we wrap
- 1:18:01it all up? No, definitely look forward to
- 1:18:04having you back and thanks for I, I had no idea where you're
- 1:18:08going to go down that road. So that, that was awesome for
- 1:18:10sure. Well, and see, that's the cool
- 1:18:12thing about our show, Brian. We don't.
- 1:18:13There's no agenda. There's no agenda.
- 1:18:16It's a conversation. It's not an interview.
- 1:18:17It's kind of like how I did the radio show, right?
- 1:18:19There was never I got, I got they would give me shit all the
- 1:18:21time because I wasn't always talking real estate.
- 1:18:23I was like, I don't want to just talk real estate, man.
- 1:18:25I want to talk about life, you know, and, and we always wrap
- 1:18:28the show up like this. Don't let the bad days win.
- 1:18:31If you don't wake up tomorrow, somebody's who loves you is
- 1:18:34going to miss you. And Burrell just apparently took
- 1:18:36her own life. She was found.
- 1:18:38If you don't know Amber Ella, she's a Food Network star that
- 1:18:40had all kinds of shows and stuff.
- 1:18:43She was found unresponsive this past Tuesday morning in her
- 1:18:45shower with over 100 different assortment of pills.
- 1:18:49So they're think she took her own life, which really, really,
- 1:18:54I mean, you know, it's, it's there's always a better way.
- 1:18:56Reach out to somebody. Somebody Loves You.
- 1:18:58Somebody will miss you. So don't don't take your life
- 1:19:00because you're having a bad day. Do not let the bad days when it
- 1:19:04will be better tomorrow when you wake up and and start all over,
- 1:19:07right? Inch by inch, baby.
- 1:19:12I love that too. Love you Brian.
- 1:19:14Love you, Mike. Love.
- 1:19:15You guys too, I appreciate. You.
- 1:19:17Yeah, yeah. Tell little Brian.
- 1:19:19Tell, tell little B We said hi. Absolutely.
- 1:19:21Happy birthday. Happy birthday, little B.
- 1:19:40On your journey, this is the place where you will go.
- 1:19:49Be on the trail behind your eyes.
- 1:19:53Feel yourself and need yourself. Take a moment, Look until you
- 1:20:00see it. Fight your battle.
- 1:20:02That's you. You both will fight your battle,
- 1:20:06but you both will. Come down here.
- 1:21:32He haven't found solids in his sand.
- 1:21:36He's from fighting. Wait for the dead when he's
- 1:21:43closer. I'm here.
- 1:21:44He put in the weed you ain't no quizzes we're playing smile and
- 1:21:50you should you put it on the almighty day.
- 1:21:55You've got to do you 2 in your life.
- 1:21:59The people. So in every day, take the turn
- 1:22:05behind your eyes. Feel the soul evolution now.
- 1:22:10Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:22:20Take a moment. Listen to your tear.
- 1:22:25Fight the battle with you more clear.
- 1:22:53You gotta, you gotta. You gotta, you gotta, you gotta.