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Fair Territory: New Shohei Ohtani rules? Konnor Griffin extension, Under-the-radar teams · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the Thursday edition of Fair Territory. I'm
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Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal here with my friend Alana Rizzo.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna take you through the baseball world.
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Speaker 1: In the next twenty six minutes or so. Alana, we
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Speaker 1: have a lot to talk about as always.
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Speaker 2: And let's start with the biggest story on the game.
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Speaker 2: Show Hao Tani.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Ken, Great to be with you as always on
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Speaker 3: this Thursday. Let's get into the lead powered by Game Changer.
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Speaker 3: More on Game Changer in a moment you're talking about
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Speaker 3: show Heyo Tani, Ken, Should he have more time to
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Speaker 3: warm up? This is a topic of conversation, but you
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Speaker 3: have a great explanation.
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Speaker 1: Yes, he should have more time, and he gets more
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Speaker 1: time because in innings, when he is participating offensively, he
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Speaker 1: needs more time to get back.
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Speaker 4: To the mound.
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Speaker 1: Now, what happened yesterday in Toronto got some attention because
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Speaker 1: you saw early in the game George Springer kind of
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Speaker 1: asking the umpire Dan Bollino, what was going on, and
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Speaker 1: it looked like he might be complaining. But I was
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Speaker 1: told by two people directly involved this morning that Springer
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Speaker 1: was not complaining at all. He was merely asking for
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Speaker 1: clarification that Otani indeed gets more time beyond the normal
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Speaker 1: two minute break between innings. So this was not a
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Speaker 1: reprise of the World Series last year when in Game
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Speaker 1: seven John Schneider, the manager of the Blue Jays, was
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Speaker 1: definitely complaining about Otani taking too much time to get
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Speaker 1: out there. This was merely a case in which the
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Speaker 1: Blue Jays are in this case, Springer wanted clarification.
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Speaker 2: No big deal there at all.
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Speaker 1: Now, the bigger question with Otani for me Alana is
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Speaker 1: something he said after the game yesterday about.
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Speaker 2: Not feeling so great on the mound.
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Speaker 1: He was vague about it. He didn't say anything was
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Speaker 1: physically wrong. He just said I didn't feel my normal self.
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Speaker 1: Pictures go through this all the time. Nobody feels one
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Speaker 1: hundred percent in all thirty starts, or whatever a pictuer
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Speaker 1: might make. But it raises the question that one we've
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Speaker 1: been all asking, can this guy pitch enough this season
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Speaker 1: to win a cy young he's already getting ample time
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Speaker 1: between starts?
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Speaker 3: Is this uncharted territory? Ken? I wanted to ask you,
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Speaker 3: we talked about it earlier before the show. I mean,
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Speaker 3: this is a situation where this is a unique player.
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Speaker 3: I mean, we don't have a player that plays on
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Speaker 3: both sides of the ball to the level that show, Hey,
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Speaker 3: O Tani, does I mean is this just a going
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Speaker 3: forward basis. We're just going to have to wait and see.
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Speaker 1: Relative to the time between innings, it seems to me
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Speaker 1: that's been pretty much addressed, and yes, in certain cases,
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Speaker 1: umpires are going to give him the grace that Dodgers
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Speaker 1: manager Dave Roberts was talking about after yesterday's game. Basically,
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Speaker 1: there are practical elements here. If the guy needs more
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Speaker 1: time on a little bit more time, as long as
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Speaker 1: he's not abusing it, and in Game seven last year
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Speaker 1: it was borderline in my opinion, But as long as
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Speaker 1: he's not abusing it, that's fine. Now, as far as
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Speaker 1: what I think you're asking about relative to can he
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Speaker 1: sustain a full picture's worklowly going forward, he's done it before,
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Speaker 1: and he's placed well on the side young voting before.
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Speaker 1: But of course he's getting older, he's coming off a
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Speaker 1: second surgery.
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Speaker 2: It's been some time now.
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Speaker 1: But the question of whether he can sustain an end
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Speaker 1: still be ready for the postseason, which is all really
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Speaker 1: the Dodgers care about, that is a fair question, and
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Speaker 1: it's something that Alani are absolutely right about. It is
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Speaker 1: uncharted territory, and we don't know if Joe hae Otani
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Speaker 1: is going to be able to do this to the
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Speaker 1: full extent that maybe fans want to see, maybe even
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Speaker 1: the Dodgers want to see.
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Speaker 2: But at the same time, he's still.
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Speaker 1: Pitched yesterday extremely well. No earn runs in six innings,
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Speaker 1: one run.
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Speaker 2: Overall, this guy is.
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Speaker 1: Just absolute marvel, remains that way, and honestly, it's going
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Speaker 1: to be fascinating to see just how he handles everything
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Speaker 1: this year, as it's fascinating with him every year.
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Speaker 3: Ken, Before we move on here in the lead, one
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Speaker 3: quick question for you. Do we have collective amnesia when
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Speaker 3: it comes to this in the fact that NL pitchers
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Speaker 3: were also batters until very recently? Are we thinking about
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Speaker 3: that side of this coin.
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Speaker 1: Yes, we should be, and you're absolutely right, Alt, and
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Speaker 1: this is not exactly something new in the game, new
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Speaker 1: in recent.
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Speaker 2: Years, because of course now both leagues have.
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Speaker 1: The DH But I don't remember if this was ever
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Speaker 1: an issue in the past. But if you've got a
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Speaker 1: picture on the basis wearing a protective shin guard or whatever,
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Speaker 1: he might need a little bit more time. It's the
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Speaker 1: umpire is thinking practically here and just trying to do
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Speaker 1: the common sense thing. And that applies to Autani as well.
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Speaker 1: You don't want to rush him or anything like that.
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Speaker 1: There have been complaints in the past. I imagine that
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Speaker 1: it will be in the future if indeed he pushes
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Speaker 1: the issue.
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Speaker 2: But that wasn't the case yesterday in Toronto.
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Speaker 3: All right, don't forget guys, get those questions in for Ken.
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Speaker 3: We're gonna have Grill and Ken coming up momentarily. But
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Speaker 3: another bit of news. It was expected, but it has
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Speaker 3: finally happened. It is official. The Connor Griffin extension with
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Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Pirates a record, a team record, nine year,
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Speaker 3: one hundred and forty million dollars deal. Good for the Buckoes,
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Speaker 3: good for Griffin Ken.
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Speaker 1: That's what I wrote about Alana in The Athletic and
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Speaker 1: the reason I say it's good for Griffin.
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Speaker 2: It's obviously good for the Bugos. We know that they've
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Speaker 2: locked the guy up for nine years. Great. It's a
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Speaker 2: team that loses its stars generally.
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Speaker 1: But for Griffin, it's a little bit different than some
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Speaker 1: of these other extensions that we see for young players
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Speaker 1: that occasionally you'll hear griping about from player representatives, agents,
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Speaker 1: union people, whatever. And the issue with Griffin was always
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Speaker 1: going to be, Okay, he'll sign a deal, but when
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Speaker 1: will he become a free agent and when will he
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Speaker 1: be able to really cash in? And with this deal
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Speaker 1: nine years, no club options, he'll be a free agent
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Speaker 1: after the age twenty eight season, entering the age twenty
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Speaker 1: nine season, that should be a pretty good situation for
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Speaker 1: him because it's still young enough to get paid in
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Speaker 1: a big way. So with Griffin, clearly he wanted the
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Speaker 1: long deal. He also wanted a sufficient guarantee, and he
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Speaker 1: got a really good deal in that regard as well.
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Speaker 1: The RB years are pretty close to current market value.
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Speaker 1: The free agent years maybe a little bit below where
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Speaker 1: he ultimately might have been, but he did okay.
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Speaker 3: A great extension for him. Certainly. You like those that
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Speaker 3: benefit both sides of the equation, all right, Ken, I
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Speaker 3: don't know that the Rangers, excuse me, the Pirates are
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Speaker 3: surprising anybody, but there are some teams that continue to surprise.
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Speaker 3: The first place, Texas Ranger sweeping the Mariners your first
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Speaker 3: topic of conversation there.
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Speaker 1: Yes, I like the Rangers, and I like what Skip
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Speaker 1: Schumacher has brought to that team kind of a new energy.
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Speaker 2: And it's not a knock on.
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Speaker 1: Bruce Bochie, of course, he won a World Series with
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Speaker 1: the Rangers. But sometimes change can be good. And Schumacher
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Speaker 1: definitely is a younger, different kind of manager than Bochie,
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Speaker 1: and he is injected.
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Speaker 2: Some different energy into that team. There's no question about that.
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Speaker 1: Now. The other thing about the Rangers that you have
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Speaker 1: to like is da ground Evaldi lighter and the rest
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Speaker 1: of that rotation. I'm missing someone, oh, Mackenzie Gore, who
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Speaker 1: was brilliant again yesterday. So their rotations in really good shape.
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Speaker 1: They believe their offense will be better. They face some
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Speaker 1: really good pitching so far, and yes they're a little
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Speaker 1: worried about Jack Peterson.
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Speaker 2: But the Rangers have a new way.
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Speaker 1: About them, a new look about them, and if indeed
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Speaker 1: their offense is as good as they think it's going
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Speaker 1: to be, then they are a playoff contender.
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Speaker 2: Yes. Ken.
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Speaker 3: When we talked about the NL Central before the beginning
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Speaker 3: of the season, we talked a lot, of course about
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Speaker 3: the Chicago Cubs with the addition of Alex Bradman. We talked,
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Speaker 3: of course about the Milwaukee Brewers, who seemed to be
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Speaker 3: at the top of the division every single year. We
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Speaker 3: weren't talking too much about the Reds. They're surprising some
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Speaker 3: folks a little.
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Speaker 1: Bit so far, I would say Alana for sure, and
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Speaker 1: the entire NL Central actually is a bit of a surprise.
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Speaker 1: All five teams are five hundred or above. Only division
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Speaker 1: like that right now. And the Reds, even though they're
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Speaker 1: not really hitting, they're twenty eighth in the league and
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Speaker 1: runs per game right now. They have, like the Rangers,
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Speaker 1: a very strong rotation even without Hunter Green right now
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Speaker 1: and no Dola. So I do like where they are,
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Speaker 1: and I always like the fact that Francona gets generally
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Speaker 1: the most out of his teams, so they're a team
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Speaker 1: that in that division can be a factor. Now it's
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Speaker 1: a really interesting division. The Cubs probably have the most talent,
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Speaker 1: the Brewers probably are the best team, The Pirates are coming,
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Speaker 1: they're better than they've been, and while the Cardinals are rebuilding,
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Speaker 1: at least they've been competitive so far. And then of
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Speaker 1: course we're talking about the Reds. So it's going to
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Speaker 1: be interesting to see if one of the lesser clubs,
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Speaker 1: the Pirates or the Reds, lesser in recent years, can
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Speaker 1: ultimately stand up and challenge one of the better clubs,
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Speaker 1: the Brewers and the Cubs.
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Speaker 3: Know if a lot of folks even remember the Reds
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Speaker 3: were in the postseason last year, I mean, this is
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Speaker 3: not a isn't isn't trying to go for it. How
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Speaker 3: much of their success do you think, especially this year,
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Speaker 3: perhaps is the Terry Francona effect.
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Speaker 1: Hard to know exactly, and really, first things first, it
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Speaker 1: always comes down to players. You have to have the players,
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Speaker 1: and their pitching is really intriguing. Their young pitching, Chase Burns, well,
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Speaker 1: Andre Rabbit's not even so young anymore. But the entire group,
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Speaker 1: it's pretty impressive.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: Ultimately, Francona, as I said, gets the most out of
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Speaker 1: his clubs in an usual sense. Not always that way,
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Speaker 1: of course, any team has disappointing years. But I trust
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Speaker 1: him to do that. I think we all trust him
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Speaker 1: to do that. Now the question becomes, are they going
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Speaker 1: to hit enough? And Matt McClain is back, that's big
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Speaker 1: for them. He was a catalyst a couple of years
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Speaker 1: ago they got hurt. Wasn't the same last year him?
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Speaker 1: Dela Cruz. Now with the addition of Aohaneo Suarez, they
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Speaker 1: have a little bit of a more offensive look about them,
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Speaker 1: but they haven't really shown that so far, so that's
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Speaker 1: going to be the question. And south Stewart, I have
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Speaker 1: to mention him as well. This guy is one of
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Speaker 1: the better rookies in the game.
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Speaker 2: I overlooked him a couple of weeks ago. Some Red
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Speaker 2: fans jump me.
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Speaker 1: I apologize that Al Stewart is in the conversation.
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Speaker 3: I'm glad you got that off of your chest. Reds
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Speaker 3: fans give Ken Rosenthal a break. Another team can that
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Speaker 3: might be surprising some certainly surprising me. The Colorado Rockies
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Speaker 3: at five hundred. That may not seem like a big deal.
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Speaker 3: But this is a team, of course, that had a
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Speaker 3: horrific year last year. They're at six and six right now,
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Speaker 3: and they're not the last team in the NL West.
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Speaker 2: Ken, imagine that.
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Speaker 1: And with the Rockies, it's a new era obviously with
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Speaker 1: Paul de Podesta and Josh Burns, and they're going to
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Speaker 1: do some things differently in the fat and then in
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Speaker 1: the past, and what they bring is an outside perspective.
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Speaker 1: For too long, the Rockies were insular and they just
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Speaker 1: relied on their own people, and that's fine.
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Speaker 2: There are some great people.
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Speaker 1: In that organization, as there are in every organization.
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Speaker 2: They needed new ideas.
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Speaker 1: New thoughts, and deep Pedesta and Burns bring that. And
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Speaker 1: I'll also mention their manager because the players speak highly
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Speaker 1: of him, Warren Shaeffer, longtime guy on the staff. They
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Speaker 1: elevated him to replace Bud Black. He looks like he
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Speaker 1: can be one of the better young managers in the game.
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Speaker 1: As he goes forward, we'll see and we'll see how
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Speaker 1: they play. The pitching is always going to be challenged
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Speaker 1: in horse Fields, but they have some interesting young players tofar.
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Speaker 1: Certainly is an emerging star. I'm anxious to see how
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Speaker 1: it goes. Really not so much this season, but in
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Speaker 1: the years to come, because conquering Corsefield as a team
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Speaker 1: is considered the biggest challenge any club faces, conquering the
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Speaker 1: situation that the Rockies are in deep, Podesta and Burns
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Speaker 1: are up for that challenge. I'm sure Schaeffer is too.
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Speaker 1: And we'll see if they can have some new answers,
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Speaker 1: because no one really has had sustainable answers to this point.
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Speaker 3: And I can appreciate the fact that Dick Montfort has
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Speaker 3: kind of passed those reins to his son, Walker Montfort,
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Speaker 3: who has worked his way up in the in the
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Speaker 3: system there and has perhaps a new perspective on things
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Speaker 3: in Colorado. All right. The lead is powered by Game Changer,
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12:21
Speaker 3: Now let's get into Grill and Ken Okay Ken. Our
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Speaker 3: first question is from Nick Hoist one for seven. Why
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Speaker 3: are so many young players getting these contracts before they
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Speaker 3: even enter the league? Obviously, Connor Griffin had played a
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Speaker 3: couple of games before they made this official, but he's
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Speaker 3: not the only one in terms of rookies getting getting
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Speaker 3: some some long term money, if you will, Nick.
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Speaker 1: A lot of fans have this question, and it's an
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Speaker 1: understandable one because a lot of these players have not
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Speaker 1: done anything yet. But the thinking is, and I wrote
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Speaker 1: this a couple of weeks after the cold Emerson extension
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Speaker 1: and just had this thought, and it's not really a
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Speaker 1: radical thought. Teams only do this because they feel it's
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Speaker 1: going to be to their advantage that ultimately they'll be
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Speaker 1: getting players at below market rates, that the players will
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Speaker 1: outperform the contracts and give the teams surplus value. That
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Speaker 1: is the motivation. For the clubs in every one of
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Speaker 1: these cases, that's.
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Speaker 2: What they want.
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Speaker 1: So does it always work out? No it doesn't, but
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Speaker 1: more often than not it does. From the club's perspective,
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Speaker 1: and of course from the player's perspective. They take these
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Speaker 1: deals because, hey, you've got lifetime security before you've even
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Speaker 1: done anything.
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Speaker 2: It's a pretty good situation of being I.
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Speaker 3: Love this because we don't always get to peel the
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Speaker 3: curtain back when it comes to you. Obviously, you're incredibly professional.
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Speaker 3: But I love learning more about Ken Rosenthal, the person versus,
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Speaker 3: in my opinion, Hall of Fame reporter. Who was your
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Speaker 3: favorite Major League Baseball player growing up? This is from
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Speaker 3: Video Game Nation twenty six.
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Speaker 1: All right, Video Game Nation twenty six. I was seven
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Speaker 1: years old when the Mets won the nineteen sixty nine
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Speaker 1: World Series, and don't do the math that makes me
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Speaker 1: sixty three. When the Mets won the nineteen sixty nine
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Speaker 1: World Series, my favorite player.
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Speaker 2: Was a guy named Ron Swoboda.
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Speaker 1: He was my first favorite player and he was the
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Speaker 1: one I don't know on the Mets that I just
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Speaker 1: identified as a guy I liked.
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Speaker 2: I liked the Mets back then.
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Speaker 1: Mets fans, interestingly enough, think I hate their team now, No,
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Speaker 1: it's just my job.
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Speaker 3: So next question, Okay, this one from Jeremy from Boston.
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Speaker 3: I think he's actually actually from Woosta. On the heels
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Speaker 3: of the City Connect announcement today, Which team has the
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Speaker 3: best City Connect uniform in baseball? Can I don't even
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Speaker 3: know if you saw them, had the opportunity to take
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Speaker 3: a look at him, But this is basically City Connect
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Speaker 3: a two point zero three point zero. Any thoughts there
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Speaker 3: is one from Baltimore. It's be more.
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Speaker 2: This is please make more money. That's what the City
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Speaker 2: Connect uniforms are. And I understand that. And MLB does
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Speaker 2: some cool and creative things.
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Speaker 1: Not just with the uniforms but with the videos that
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Speaker 1: accompany the announcements.
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Speaker 2: They're really good.
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Speaker 1: But I haven't taken a look in depth at the
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Speaker 1: uniforms yet. I've had other things regarding the actual game
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Speaker 1: on the field that I've had more concerns about.
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Speaker 3: All Right, I liked the Wisco ones for the Milwaukee
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Speaker 3: Brewers Wisko, and I also like the Pirates ones. I
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Speaker 3: thought the new Pirates every Pirate uniform that has ever
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Speaker 3: come out, I've absolutely loved. There's just something about the
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Speaker 3: way the pirates go about it that I absolutely love,
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Speaker 3: all right, Clint from La, how much did the Blue
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Speaker 3: Jays need that? When over the Dodgers can perhaps just
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Speaker 3: more from a mental perspective than anything.
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Speaker 1: I would say for an April game, it had more
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Speaker 1: meaning than most. But with the Blue Jays, the key
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Speaker 1: thing is, well, two key things. One they've got to hit.
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Speaker 1: They have not hit to their capabilities yet. And two
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Speaker 1: they've got to play cleaner baseball. They're in a situation
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Speaker 1: now when they have a rotation and entire rotation on
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Speaker 1: the injured list, five starters on the injured list, and
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Speaker 1: some are in better conditions than others, and some will
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Speaker 1: be back, and of course Boden Francis won't and Cody
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Speaker 1: Ponce won't.
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Speaker 2: But to be the team that they want to be,
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Speaker 2: the team that.
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Speaker 1: They were last year, they have to play clean and
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Speaker 1: they have not done that for the most part, and
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Speaker 1: they've got to be better offensively. O Komodo essentially replaces Bashett.
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Speaker 1: It's largely the same cast. Of course, Barger's heard a
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Speaker 1: little bit, so it's early. I don't know that we
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Speaker 1: can judge the Jays yet, and I don't know that
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Speaker 1: even it's fair to look at them like we would
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Speaker 1: in a normal season, because they're coming off an incredibly
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Speaker 1: emotionally draining World Series. I know it's a new year,
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Speaker 1: but there's an adjustment. I'm sure that takes place with
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Speaker 1: these guys. And while they're all professional, of course, extremely professional,
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Speaker 1: and they go about their business the right way, the
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Speaker 1: hangover effect, to me, it seems like it might be real.
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Speaker 3: Mark Spiroh and Ross Atkins getting extensions. You have to
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Speaker 3: love the fat to Ken that this team spent money
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Speaker 3: in the off season putting it back into their product.
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Speaker 3: I appreciate Toronto for doing that. There have been a
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Speaker 3: lot of injuries Ken, in terms of decimating starting rotations
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Speaker 3: around baseball. Let's talk a bit about the Houston Astros
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Speaker 3: and Christian hobby Air exiting early with the shoulder issue.
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Speaker 2: What do you know, this is troubling.
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Speaker 1: And Christian Javier, of course, a hero of the twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty two World Series, goes Tommy John a little bit
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Speaker 1: after that and then he misses his time. Now he's
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Speaker 1: back and he still has not been the same picture.
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Speaker 1: And now he is on the injured list with shoulder problems.
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Speaker 1: And that is alarming because the Astros just loves Hunter
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Speaker 1: Brown for an indeterminate amount of time. The Astros did
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Speaker 1: a good job in the off season building up the
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Speaker 1: depth of their rotation. They acquired Mike Burrows, they signed
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Speaker 1: Am I, they brought in Ryan Weiss.
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Speaker 2: They have enough bodies.
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Speaker 1: But obviously as these injuries hit, it becomes problematic.
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Speaker 2: And that's where they are now, all right.
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Speaker 3: Not the only one in terms of that Hunter Brown,
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Speaker 3: of course, Zach Eflin and Kate Horton. How much does
18:05
Speaker 3: Zach Efflin issue prove to be problematic for Baltimore Ken.
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Speaker 1: Another team that has tried to build up its depth,
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Speaker 1: and they have better depth than in the past, but
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Speaker 1: they wanted Efflin to be part of their equation.
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Speaker 2: And it's crushing for Eflyn too. This guy's battled injuries.
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Speaker 1: He's had all kinds of problems over the years, and
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Speaker 1: just when it seems he was back to being himself
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Speaker 1: and when he is healthy he is a really good picture.
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Speaker 2: That is obviously something that's disappointing for him.
18:33
Speaker 1: But for the Orioles, rotation has been their number one
18:37
Speaker 1: question and we entered the season again wondering if they
18:41
Speaker 1: had enough at the top. It's bratish, it's Rogers. It's
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Speaker 1: bos they are okay.
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Speaker 2: But are they good enough? Now?
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Speaker 1: Dtan Kramer will step in for Efflyn, and they have
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Speaker 1: some younger pictures as well that they can turn to.
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Speaker 1: It just is curious or not curious. It's just a
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Speaker 1: question that persists with them. And I forgot to mention
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Speaker 1: Chris Bassett.
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Speaker 2: He's in the equation too. He hasn't started too well.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. They're too worried about that. So the
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Speaker 2: question that started the season is the question.
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Speaker 1: That remains, and again gets exacerbated by the Efflin injury.
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Speaker 3: Now doubt about that, Cad Horton out for the season.
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Speaker 3: Ken for the Chicago Cubs, how do they deal with that?
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Speaker 1: Well, they've gotten two good starts in the last two
19:22
Speaker 1: days with boyd out two out of Assad and Colin Ray,
19:26
Speaker 1: so they too have tried to build depth.
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Speaker 2: It's a common theme here right Why.
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Speaker 1: Because pictures get hurt. It's the nature of the game today.
19:34
Speaker 1: It's the reality of the game today.
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Speaker 2: Now, can the Cubs.
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Speaker 1: Sustain it all year with Assad and Ray?
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Speaker 2: I don't know that they can.
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Speaker 1: I don't know that they'll need to. Boy should be
19:43
Speaker 1: back in due time, of course. Horton is out for
19:46
Speaker 1: the season and that is a blow. But they've got
19:49
Speaker 1: still Ibrad Cabrera and Jamison Tyon and him and Naga
19:53
Speaker 1: and they should be okay. But I would not be
19:56
Speaker 1: surprised at the deadline.
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Speaker 2: And if they're looking for starting pitching.
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Speaker 3: Right, I love this part of our show because we
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Speaker 3: get to compliment somebody that did something great this week.
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Speaker 3: Whether it's an individual or an organization. Can go ahead.
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Speaker 3: Who is your Dude of the week?
21:38
Speaker 2: Joe Adele? In my goodness, I know it was Saturday night.
21:42
Speaker 1: It's ancient history already, but that was one of the
21:43
Speaker 1: greatest defensive performances any of us has ever seen. The
21:46
Speaker 1: three home run robberies, especially the last one when he
21:50
Speaker 1: fell into the right field seats. It was a great
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Speaker 1: moment for a guy who has come a long way
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Speaker 1: and a guy who kind of brings a lot of
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Speaker 1: light to the Angels. So Joey Dell due to the week,
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Speaker 1: and man, that was just mind bottling what happened. First
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Speaker 1: of all, to even get three chances to rob home runs,
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Speaker 1: that's extremely rare, and then to actually do it, and
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Speaker 1: to do it in the dramatic way that he did
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Speaker 1: in a close game.
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Speaker 2: Joey Dell due to the.
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Speaker 3: Week, no doubt about that. I mean it could be
22:17
Speaker 3: due to the year. For that defensive performance, the best
22:19
Speaker 3: defensive game I certainly have ever seen. Even more so
22:22
Speaker 3: Ken He did it in front of Mike Trout and
22:24
Speaker 3: Tory Hunter, two obviously very good defensive outfielders as well.
22:28
Speaker 3: And let's give some credit to Kaylee Kay who took
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Speaker 3: that amazing photo. If she doesn't have a deal with
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Speaker 3: Apple by now, I'm assuming she used her iPhone to
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Speaker 3: do that, she certainly deserves one. And that glove is
22:40
Speaker 3: headed to Cooperstown Joe Adele donating the glove to the
22:45
Speaker 3: Baseball Hall of Fame. My dude of the week is
22:47
Speaker 3: Walt Weiss, the Atlanta Braves manager, who I think could
22:52
Speaker 3: put on the pads Ken for the Atlanta Falcons. He
22:56
Speaker 3: took down Hojjes Soled, who used to be his own player.
23:00
Speaker 3: And again, let's not forget that Walt Weiss Uh is
23:05
Speaker 3: a he's in you know, he's he's trained for taekwondo
23:09
Speaker 3: or m m A and and those types of things.
23:12
Speaker 3: He is a man that obviously is a man of
23:15
Speaker 3: tremendous strength, and he was able to take him down.
23:17
Speaker 3: And Hoode Solid has a tremendous amount of respect for
23:20
Speaker 3: Walt Weiss and he actually said Solid did that. He
23:23
Speaker 3: was probably trying just to protect him and Walt Weiss.
23:26
Speaker 3: I texted him and I said, boss, move skip and
23:28
Speaker 3: he said, old guys can still have fun. Uh, you
23:33
Speaker 3: are my dude of the week for taking down that
23:35
Speaker 3: large human in hode Soled. All right, time now for
23:39
Speaker 3: our dork of the week. Unfortunately, Ken, there were a
23:49
Speaker 3: lot of people to choose from in terms of our
23:52
Speaker 3: dorks of the week. Go ahead, who is yours?
23:55
Speaker 2: All right? This is not an extreme dork of the week.
23:57
Speaker 2: This is a very mild one from a guy who
23:59
Speaker 2: I trust.
23:59
Speaker 1: Will I'm gonna be the DRK of the week again
24:01
Speaker 1: because in my view he is one of the better
24:03
Speaker 1: managers in the game right now for Clayton McCullough on
24:06
Speaker 1: Tuesday night, and he instantly regretted this, or not instantly
24:09
Speaker 1: as the game evolved.
24:10
Speaker 2: He credited it took out.
24:12
Speaker 1: Sandy l Contra with two with one out in the
24:15
Speaker 1: ninth inning, a lead, and the chance for al Contra
24:19
Speaker 1: to pitch back to back complete games and become the
24:22
Speaker 1: first pitcher to do that in eleven years.
24:25
Speaker 2: Now, there's no crime in going to the bullpen, and
24:27
Speaker 2: if it had worked out, maybe we wouldn't have even
24:29
Speaker 2: been talking about it. But of course it didn't work out.
24:32
Speaker 1: The Marlins lost to the Reds in ten innings, and
24:35
Speaker 1: our consult was removed with first and second, two runners
24:38
Speaker 1: on and one out. As I said, he was still
24:41
Speaker 1: going strong, and our contreda said afterward that, you know what,
24:45
Speaker 1: I wish I had been consulted because the move was
24:47
Speaker 1: made before he had any say in the matter.
24:49
Speaker 2: And Clayton McCullough owned it afterward.
24:52
Speaker 1: He said, there are decisions that you make that don't
24:55
Speaker 1: necessarily work out the way you want.
24:57
Speaker 2: That was one of them.
24:58
Speaker 1: So it's a mild dork of the week, and guys
25:00
Speaker 1: say stupid stuff that's not so mild.
25:02
Speaker 2: That's real dork of the week.
25:04
Speaker 1: This one is more of a second guess and one
25:06
Speaker 1: that he openly acknowledged afterward himself. It was just a
25:09
Speaker 1: fascinating situation and of course get backfired.
25:14
Speaker 3: Okay, my dork of the week is on the other
25:16
Speaker 3: side of the Walt Weiss equation. But for me, it's
25:18
Speaker 3: Rinaldo Lopez kN trying to punch solid with a baseball
25:23
Speaker 3: in his hand. I'm not certain what you should do
25:25
Speaker 3: in that situation. Maybe drop the baseball before you try
25:28
Speaker 3: to punch somebody. You'd probably be a little bit more effective.
25:30
Speaker 3: But that whole thing was just a little silly. It
25:33
Speaker 3: was kind of you know, the brew ha that happened
25:36
Speaker 3: in Anaheim. Both of those guys get suspended. I want
25:39
Speaker 3: to say that Ronaldo Lopez, I think was reduced to
25:43
Speaker 3: five games, Is that right? So he actually won't miss
25:46
Speaker 3: the start the next time, So I mean Soled won't
25:49
Speaker 3: miss the start the next time. So anyway, that is
25:52
Speaker 3: my dork.
25:52
Speaker 1: Of the week.
25:53
Speaker 3: All right, Ken, what about the possibility of a second
25:57
Speaker 3: straight rain delay if you will in your upcoming game.
26:01
Speaker 3: We're going to talk about that after the break. If
26:03
Speaker 3: you're watching on TV, We're going to see you next week.
26:06
Speaker 3: We'll have a couple more minutes for the YouTube crowd
26:09
Speaker 3: right after this. All right, if you're still with us,
26:11
Speaker 3: we appreciate you guys watching on YouTube. Ken, you are
26:15
Speaker 3: supposed to be doing what Boston at Saint Louis this weekend?
26:19
Speaker 3: Is that going to happen. I'm not trying to make
26:21
Speaker 3: you a weather man, but there is some weather in
26:23
Speaker 3: the outlook at sure, it looks.
26:26
Speaker 2: Like there is a lot.
26:27
Speaker 1: And the only reason we even bring this up is
26:30
Speaker 1: because last week I was supposed to do the Cubs
26:33
Speaker 1: at the Guardians and that one was rained out.
26:36
Speaker 2: Now, this is my twenty first year with Fox. Twenty
26:40
Speaker 2: first year.
26:41
Speaker 1: I don't believe we've ever had two consecutive rainouts during
26:46
Speaker 1: the regular season. So we're looking at unprecedented, uncharted territory perhaps,
26:51
Speaker 1: But I am confident, even though I have had weather
26:54
Speaker 1: issues in Saint Louis before.
26:55
Speaker 2: I am confident this game is going to be played.
26:57
Speaker 1: We're going to see range of Suarez make us thirdd
26:59
Speaker 1: start for the Boston Red Sox, and if it doesn't happen, well,
27:04
Speaker 1: your screens will be without Fox Baseball Game at least
27:07
Speaker 1: the one from Saint Louis.
27:08
Speaker 2: We'll have another game always a backup.
27:10
Speaker 1: Actually, we have an alternate game always and that goes
27:13
Speaker 1: to part of the country and the game I'm doing
27:15
Speaker 1: goes to another part.
27:17
Speaker 3: Okay, well, rain, rain or weather, weather go away. We
27:20
Speaker 3: definitely want to be able to get that game in.
27:23
Speaker 3: We appreciate you guys watching. Of course, that's it for us.
27:26
Speaker 3: Foul Territory is next. Rockies first Baseman G. J. Rumfield
27:30
Speaker 3: and the Athletics Owen Point, Dexter and Lev Weaver joined,
27:34
Speaker 3: Eric Kratz, Todd Frazer, and Scott Braun, and then Dodgers'
27:37
Speaker 3: Territory follows with myself, Clint Pasius and Katie Woo Brad
27:41
Speaker 3: Paisley joining us on the show too. Whoa my guy
27:45
Speaker 3: Brad on the show Ken. Of course, we'll be back
27:48
Speaker 3: on Monday with Fair Territory. Have a great weekend everybody,
27:51
Speaker 3: Thanks for being here by
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Speaker 4: Bye keep mos