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Blue Jays Sign Scherzer · The 3-0 Take

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About that. Look at that Sharp.
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That's nice. That's nice.
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It does come flat, Billy. You got to do a little work, but
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that's all right. That's how you know it's a good
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bill. It's going to stay.
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Look at us man, just upgrading new year.
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That looks good. That looks really good.
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That's about the only positive thing going on right now
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because. Pretty much.
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I mean, it's February. See much.
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It's February, which means, you know, there's going to be Major
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League Baseball played this month, but supposedly there is
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nothing, nothing going on. So much so that we're headlining
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this episode with the signing that happened multiple days ago.
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I'm just going to go ahead and out ourselves.
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People are going to. She can be transparent.
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That's why we're that's why we're here.
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We're we're headlining this episode with a deal that
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happened on Thursday for a 40 year old pitcher who will
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probably see the mound for half of the year when it's all said
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and done this year. So that's the state of free
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agency. But you know what, we're going
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to make it. We're going to, we're going to
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have a good time. We got a draft.
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Best believe there's a draft. We got a draft on deck.
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The people, the people are loving the drafts, man, I I'm
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not even going to lie. I love that they love it because
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I love it. I have a bone to pick with the
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with the people, by the way, on the results of the votes because
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I if if last week or if last episode, if last draft was not
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an indication that I just managed to wipe the floor and
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the people can see that, then I don't know.
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I don't know what what else. What are you saying occurred?
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What happened exactly? Well, I mean, I was just, I'll
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be honest with you, I was monitoring the results and now
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that I'm actually checking the poll on the IG story right now
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and it seems like a people caught some sense.
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So I think I'm in good shape, but I, we're, we're going to
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need to maybe address that later in the show because these,
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these, these polls should not be this close, especially when you
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look at last last draft. Anyway, let's just get right
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into it because I want to talk some, I want to talk some draft.
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I want to, I want to, I want to do some draft.
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I want to talk some draft, I want to win some draft.
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As I mentioned, Max shares are 40 years old in agreement on a
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one year, 15 and a half, $1,000,000 contract with the
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Blue Jays. Yeah, that's about it.
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So let's do this draft. No, look, so you've got a,
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you've got a 40 year old, you've got a 40 year old arm here who
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is more than likely going to be slotting in as your 4th or 5th
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arm in the rotation, Correct. Is that a fair assumption?
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Yeah, Gosman won. Brios 2.
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Basset 3. And then Bowden, Francis.
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Four Manoa and and Max Scherzer interchanging.
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I don't know if Manoa remains in the picture moving forward.
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I'm. Going to go ahead and take my
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chances with a a 40 year old Max Scherzer over an Alec Manoa.
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I said what I said. I'm not taking it.
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Back, I do concur, yeah, yeah, dude, I mean, look, we were we
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were on some of these teams about, you know, having zero
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movement, not doing anything. This is something this is
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something $15 million flyer. I don't know.
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I can't imagine too many, too many Canadians purchasing AA1
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year 18 to 21 start Max Scherzer jersey, but you never know.
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So good for the Blue Jays getting getting a little
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something that's available who it's out there.
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You think you're going to see more Manoa jerseys in this in
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the in the crowd this year, more shares or jerseys?
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I had more Manoa just because of like the carry over from a few
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years ago. Yeah, but you wouldn't want to
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be seen dead. In that jersey, right?
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You're not you're not going to rock that.
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It's tough. It's hard to say he's not.
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Yeah. He's just, it's been a big, big
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disappointment, big fall off. It's been rough.
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But I don't know, man. Like I can't be super negative
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about them making some movement, doing a little something.
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He's coming off a year Scherzer, that is where he made just nine
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starts, went two and four with a 395.
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Didn't make his first start of the season until June 23rd.
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Coming off of a surgery to repair a herniated disc, which I
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don't know if you've ever had that.
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I haven't had that, but that does not sound like a pleasant
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time. How does how do you get it
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unherniated? How does one get a hernia?
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How does a disc become herniated and how do you unherniate that
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disc? Probably a surgery.
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You just unherniate it. Just push it back in.
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Just push it back in that slot. I tell you what, I'm being on
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this side of 30. I'm learning.
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I'm quickly, quickly learning. We.
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Could learn about a herniated. No, no, no, no, no.
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I'm not putting that out there. I'm not putting that in the in
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the out there for that to to manifest.
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It's it's in the realm of possibility.
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I'm not putting that out there in the universe.
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What I am going to say though is being on this side of 30, I'm
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quickly realizing just how much your day can be thrown off the
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track. Sure.
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If you even have the slightest pain in your back.
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Sure. I mean, there, there are a few
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things that can ruin a day. I mean, you could be life could
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be good. You could have just gotten a
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bonus. The family's healthy, the
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family's happy. But I tell you what, if you wake
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up on the wrong side of the bed with a little bit of a tweak in
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the back, none of that matters Could set you back, pun
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intended. Nothing, nothing will do that to
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you like a, like a, some back pain.
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Unreal. So I feel for Scherzer, but you
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know, pun intended, he's not going to have that weight on his
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back that he has to really carry any sort of load.
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Because I, I don't think there's going to be much expectation.
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I mean, sure, if you're going to give a guy 15 and a half million
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dollars, there's there's some expectation that you're going to
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at least have to take the ball, which as we talked about, has
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been a little bit of a question mark with Scherzer given the the
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nature of his injuries the last last handful of years.
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But for him, your primary goals should just be to take the ball
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to stay healthy to to shore up the back end of that rotation.
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And if not, if nothing else, if, if, if you fall short on those
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goals, just be a presence in that, in that pitching room, be
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a presence in that clubhouse and, and, and teach these guys
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what they need to. I mean, you put Matt, you put
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Scherzer and, and Bowden Francis in the same room.
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I mean, that's a, that's a wealth of knowledge that he
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should be taken advantage of. And like I said it, if, if he
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goes out there and just falls flat and if the back just
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becomes an issue, if the, if the, the elbow starts barking,
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OK, then just be, be the Max Scherzer, the old Sage Max
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Scherzer that, that I'm, I'm certain he's capable of being.
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And you'll maybe you're not going to bring 15 and a half,
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$1,000,000 worth of value in that sense, but you'll still be
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bringing value, which I think is important for the Jays.
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Yeah, I mean, I think I got to give a little more credit to
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their offseason. Like if you run down the list,
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I'm not going to sit here and say that like Max Scherzer's the
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cherry on top, but the addition of Jeff Hoffman, which a little
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bit of back and forth on, on his physical, there were some teams
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that kind of backed off. So I'm interested to see if
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teams were correct or incorrect about that.
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If he does stay healthy though, I think we could be looking at
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this at the end of the year as a very, very underrated move.
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Sneaky good AD the trade of Andres Jimenez, Anthony
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Santander, Max Scherzer. I think there's a lot of there's
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a lot of teams around the league that would be fairly happy with
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that offseason. Well, let's not forget they've
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got, call it two weeks. I, I, I believe Vladdy set a
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deadline. He, he essentially informed the
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team. Look, I think you've got, I
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think what he said was that you've got until the start of
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spring trip, pitchers and catchers like the 17th, I think
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was the date he gave. For an extension.
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To get to make an extension happen.
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So if they're done, if they're done externally, they still may
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not be done internally. So I mean, if you could, if they
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could somehow, which I again, I don't think it's going to
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happen. I don't think Vladdy wants to be
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in Toronto anymore. I've, I've been saying that for
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a, a number of weeks and months now even at this point.
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But if if for whatever reason you're able to make something
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work, bring locking in Vladdy for however long.
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Going back to your point of this being.
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A. A respectable offseason.
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I think that that would hold true.
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I I mean, I think it holds true now, but if you can lock in, if
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you can lock Vladdy, get. That done, this is a this is an
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A minus offseason if you if you lock him down long term.
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And let's not forget. A minus on that.
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Let's not forget name we talked about recently, Boba Shet if he
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has a bounce back like the the Blue Jays.
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I know we've sort of waffled on them a little bit this
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offseason. Given we haven't pancakes,
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that's for sure. It's definitely been more waffle
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than pan. Yeah, definitely more waffle
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than pancake, but it it was just one of those scenarios where
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they're just trying to throw money at anybody and everybody
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and they're finally starting to get their feet on the ground and
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starting to catch a little bit of traction in that in that
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sense. So yeah, I mean, when it's all
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said and done, once Opening Day arrives, we could be looking at
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this as a as a very the momentous offseason for the Jays
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and and their immediate future. You got to have you got to have
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things go right. They got to have things go right
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to compete in the at least you got to have Gosman be back in
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that Sion conversation like he has the stuff to do.
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You got to have brios be what he's got to have one year where
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it was like, all right, this was worth it.
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This trade was worth it. Bassett at this point is just
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got a chew innings. You have, you know, one more
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Goodyear out of George Springer. Like, there's certain there's a
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lot that needs to go, right? But it's not like crazy to see
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it happening. It's not crazy to consider that
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this team could compete. Not to not to steal any Thunder
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from our, our upcoming Hot takes and predictions, our annual Hot
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takes and Predictions episode. But given the state of the
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offseason for the Blue Jays that we're talking about right now
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and sort of dissecting if this was it, say the Vladdy extension
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doesn't happen, which really doesn't hold much relevance to
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this question anyway. But where, where do you slot the
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Jays in at this moment? If if the season started
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tomorrow, if the rest of the American League East is has done
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what they're going to do and not another move was made, which I
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don't think is the case elsewhere in that division.
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I think some there's maybe some trades that could trickle in and
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then obviously there you still got some elite names out there
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free agent wise, they could find their way to the division.
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But if it started tomorrow, where do you slot the Jason?
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Above the race, I think the offense will be better than what
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the race currently have going on.
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I think they're pitching right now, looks to be in better shape
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than the Orioles and if you have bounced back years, if you had
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good, good years out of that offence, I think that I think
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the Jays offence could compete with an Orioles offence.
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But I think I still give the edge to the youth, so I'm going
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to give him the four spot. That's yeah, I was.
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I was kind of flirting with that third spot, but I'd even though
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I'm I'm down on on Baltimore's pitch rotation specifically
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right now, I still give the advantage.
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I I think that line up can still.
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They can still bang and those guys aren't even in their prime
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yet. Yeah.
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So yeah, I think right now they're slotted at 4, but.
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Like I think there's a significant gap between 4:00 and
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5:00, right? A tighter gap between 3:00 and
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4:00, but that. This whole this whole scenario
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is based on if the season starts tomorrow, if you somehow make
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something happen for Alonso, if. Bregman.
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Or if you go out and if if the the waiting game between
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Bregman, the Red Sox and even the Astros and throw the Tigers
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and that makes it that if that all goes stale and the Blue Jays
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sweep in and and grab Bregman. Or, like I said, Alonso.
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Yeah, we can start having a more serious conversation about.
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I think we're comfortably looking at the bare minimum.
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They're in the division. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Interesting place to be, but the, the, the Scherzer move, it
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got me thinking and I put, I put out a, a TikTok on it actually,
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and was received shockingly well.
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I, I mean, I'd, it was just a thought that I had that I wanted
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to, you know, put out into the universe.
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But people seem to. Hanging out.
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Hanging out in the driver's seat.
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Hanging out in the car on my lunch break.
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But the thought that I put out there as I was thinking.
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Eat alone in your car. Oh yeah, dude, it's glorious.
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Have you ever done that? All the time I just.
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I just thought I was the only one.
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You you set your phone up, watch a show.
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Absolutely. Nobody's bothering you because
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nothing is. Delightful.
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Nothing is worse than taking your lunch break and you're
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clearly sitting at your like if if you are eating at your desk,
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you're sitting there, you're very clearly eating lunch and
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people come up to you and they're like talking, talking
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projects and and to. Do list.
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I'm like no like did you see that e-mail?
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Like no I didn't. No because of my car.
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I'm looking at the sandwich actually, but yeah, the car.
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Low recline after you, after you crush the Sammy.
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Quick little power nap. Turn the show up a little bit or
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turn it down for a little nap. Good for you.
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I thought I was alone in that camp.
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Makes me feel better. No, you, you and I like no, but
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the thought that I put out there as I was thinking about the
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Scherzer acquisition and I, I was thinking in the same vein.
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The the recent Verlander one year deal.
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I'm sitting there going, we're looking at a time that is
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rapidly approaching where the top 10 strikeout leaders list
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like all time. We'll be frozen in time forever.
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Because as it stands right now, you're going to have, you're
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going to have Verlander and Scherzer.
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And I mentioned in the video like it's, it's one can assume
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that these guys are just going to ride out one year deals for
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as long as teams are willing to pay them and as long as they're
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willing to pitch because they've had their, they've had their
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history of injuries. And, and you know that even if
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guys feel as though they're capable of, of continuing their
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career, they don't want to, they don't want to push their body to
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a point where it's going to affect their long term health
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and, and quality of life. So it's very possible that even
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if a guy like Scherzer or Verlander feels as though
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mentally he would, he would be capable of, of continuing that
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physically. They just don't want to do it.
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So you. Imagine you're younger.
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Yeah, yeah. But I mean, you can imagine that
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those those two runs will be ending rather shortly.
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But as it stands right now, they're going to be sort of
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duking it out to see who finishes 10th.
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And then after that, you've got Kershaw, who let's just go ahead
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and assume is not going to crack the top ten because, I mean,
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we've been talking about potential retirement for Kershaw
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for the last. Yeah, it's just body wise.
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Body. I don't think he gets to 40I.
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I don't even think he gets to 38.
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I mean, people were talking about his retirement after the
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2020 title, like, oh, what a way to go out.
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And here we are heading into the 2025 season.
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So let's just go ahead and say that that that's not going to
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happen. And then after.
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Currently sitting at 21 with 2968 strikeouts so he's in 21st
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place for that. And then after that you've got
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Sale who's 35. He's 49th on the list at, at
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2414. So I mean, if you get, say he
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goes to 40, which I don't think he is, because if you recall,
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he, they, they were asking him after winning the Cy Young that
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he, he was close to retiring, like he was on the verge of
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retiring before deciding to come back and you got to go and he
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goes out and wins a Cy Young. So even if you got one or two
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more years of dominance from Chris Sale like we've seen in
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years past, I'd, I'd, I don't see that stretching until he's
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40. So sales not really an option.
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And then after that, Garrett Cole is the really it.
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That's that's really it. Yep, Yep.
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Charlie Morton is next. Just 82nd he's 40 Lancelin after
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that 37 you Darvish 37. They're way down there.
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They barely crack 2000 strikeouts.
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You're right, dude. I mean, I do think it really
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depends on next year's health and how many starts they're
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going to make. I wouldn't go.
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You can't chalk these guys up for 200 strikeouts a year
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anymore. But if if Verlander can can
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sneak 120 a 140 strikeouts, he moves into like a very much
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safer 8th place, you know what I mean?
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And then Scherzer can potentially sneak into 10.
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So you may see a point where like a a Walter Johnson from the
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nine spot is bumped out. But yeah, I I can't go Kershaw.
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I definitely can't. Garrett Cole is a is a maybe.
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He is definitely a more of a strikeout pitcher.
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I still feel like he kind of holds on to that like old school
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starter mentality that he wants to go as long as he can in
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games. He's 33.
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I mean, these are all these are all maybes, but when I was
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looking at this list, I'm like Garrett Cole of the options
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available, seemed like the the most certain.
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I feel like he gets there. I feel like he gets the 3000
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strikeouts. I just don't know if he gets in
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the top 10. I mean, because even if Gerrit
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Cole pitches till he's 40, that's what, 6-7 years?
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Let's chalk him up for 170 strikeouts over 8 years.
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That's 1360. So 1360 + 2251.
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I guess over almost 3600 strikeouts that would be.
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Which would put him on the back end of the the top there or the
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the bottom half range of the top. 10678 range.
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Yeah, so I. I think he could get in there.
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And that might those those number, those estimates may be a
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little ambitious, but I mean, even an even a notch down, I
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feel like he safely gets in. But the great, the bigger
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picture here is just that with the the way that the game is
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changing, it's going to be interesting to see what other
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statistical categories get locked in because wins who I
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mean, say, say what you will about the statistical category
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of wins, it's, it's rapidly losing value if it hasn't
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already lost complete value. Like I just it it, it doesn't
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matter as much as it used to and it it makes sense as to why
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that's the case. But you look at wins not being
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much of a factor, you look at. I'm I'm looking at this hits
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list, I don't think that's moving.
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Where are we? I don't think it's moving.
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Where are we at on the hits list?
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Brother, the only the closest active hits list guy is Freddie
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Freeman in 164th place. That's insane.
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After 15 years in the league, he's currently 34 years old.
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A little over 2200 strike, 22 hits.
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Sorry. 2200 hits. Jose Altuve down to 177 on the
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list. He's 14 years in the league.
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Andrew McCutcheon is 208th on the list.
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Albert Pools was the last to he's literally 10th.
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He was the last to crack that top ten list.
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And that, yeah, I don't, I don't think that game's that list is
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changing and. I think, I don't think it's
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changing like the the mentality of giving guys a shot has
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drastically changed to where it's let them let them get in
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the league earlier. Let's sign these guys to a
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younger cheaper contract at 222324 years old.
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And then at that point the way the league is going, like most
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of these guys aren't going to hit a big time contract at 33
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whenever that first contract expires.
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Like I just, I don't see much value happening around a 34 to
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37 year old hitter enough to where they can stay in a lineup
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and have the opportunity to get 100 and 4000 and 50 knocks in a
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season. Like those days are just gone.
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Those guys have quickly become role players or they're still in
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the line because they have some pop left and they're not rolling
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out 150 a 160 hits anyway, right?
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You're hoping for 2530 home runs out of those types of guys, IE
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Paul Goldschmidt, right? Like you're not looking at these
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guys to put up hits there. I mean, and, and much less
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playing. Look at the top ten dude.
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Just I'm not going to go names. I'm just going to tell you the
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number of years, number of seasons these guys had to play
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to be in the top. 1024 Seasons 24 Season 23/22/2020 Seven
25:47
seasons 21/23/22 years in the league you're Those days are
25:54
done, the league you get. Younger and you're, you're
25:57
seeing these guys get shipped out the the turnover is going to
26:01
become much more. 100%. You're not going to see guys
26:04
play into their 40s. The two names that I'm looking
26:07
at here that have that played less than 20 years was Ichiro.
26:14
He played nineteen seasons. Rod Carew, Lou Brock, 19 seasons
26:19
Wade Boggs, You're talking guys that are in the 20s to 31st
26:23
ranking in the overall hit category.
26:26
The hits list is toast. It's done the not just that
26:32
aspect, but at the way the game is valued in the way they get
26:36
the way the home run in the. The three outcomes have have now
26:40
affected the hitter's approach. Strikeouts don't matter to a
26:46
hitter anymore. That hit list is 100% being
26:50
untouched. Well, what about this name?
26:53
What about that name? People ask in the comments on on
26:57
this TikTok that I'm referencing.
26:59
I'm seeing a lot of people throughout the name like there's
27:01
a there's a comment here. Paul Skeens is our last hope.
27:04
Terex, Google's name I saw thrown out there.
27:07
Spencer Strider. Look, the issue is phenomenal
27:11
pitchers, great power punch out, strike out type pitchers.
27:16
The issue is Spencer Strider, for example, already 2 Tommy
27:20
Johns under his belt. I, I would never wish this upon
27:25
him, but a guy like Paul Skeens, you, you have to imagine that
27:28
he's more than likely not going to make it through his entire
27:30
career unscathed in that regard. So you combine that with the
27:34
fact that with, with multiple facts.
27:37
One, these guys are not going to be pitching into their 40s
27:40
because again, the game's getting younger.
27:42
The turnover at that stage and and guy's careers is, is going
27:45
to, I would have to imagine begin sooner, begin earlier.
27:49
So you're not going to necessarily see these guys reach
27:52
that stage of their careers. And then additionally, the way
27:57
that the game is evolving, you're going, you're, you're not
28:00
going to see guys unless Major League Baseball steps in which
28:05
they, we, we talked about it what a couple months ago, how
28:09
we're, they're, they're proposing the idea of setting
28:12
inning minimums for starting pitching.
28:14
As it stands right now, though, with the way that the game
28:17
values starting pitching, it's not the highest it's ever been.
28:20
It's probably the lowest it's ever been as as we see starters
28:25
go shorter and shorter into games.
28:28
As good as these guys are, like a skiing, a scooble, so on and
28:32
so forth. Even I I saw Wheeler and Nola
28:34
mentioned in there as well. As good as these guys are, they
28:38
they're just not going to be able to amass the body of work.
28:42
And it's not because of anything that they've done.
28:44
They could go out and throw. They could go out and and reach
28:46
their quote, UN quote pitch like their innings limit that their
28:51
friend that their respective team has set for them, say like
28:54
they they come in and say, Scoobs, we only want you going 7
28:58
Skiing's we only want you going sixth in the third.
29:02
Even if they reach that mark every single time, they're not
29:06
going to have they're they're just not going to have the
29:09
length of career that would allow for those types of numbers
29:12
to help them reach those marks. So again, sort of big picture
29:17
here, putting a bow on it. The the strikeout top ten list
29:22
is is soon going to be locked forever and people say, well,
29:26
everything is slick, cyclical, sure, but it it I would imagine
29:34
it's not going to be once once we sort of reach the end of this
29:36
list of names that we talked about, you know, Verlander, not
29:42
Kershaw necessarily, but a guy like Eric Cole.
29:44
Once we reach the end of that list, it's it presumably is not
29:47
going to be changing in our lifetime.
29:49
Even if it even if the game does evolve comes back to, you know,
29:54
valuing guys like this, it's not going to be in our lifetime.
29:56
So for all intents and purposes, lists such as this you
30:00
mentioned, the hits list some other statistic statistical
30:03
categories not going to be changing.
30:05
Yeah, I mean, like, it's just the way the game, it's the way
30:08
the game shifts. It makes me wonder what's crazy.
30:17
I feel like the most reachable top ten list is home runs
30:22
because of how valued it is. It's kind of like in the NBA,
30:25
how valued the three-point is. Like the three-point top ten
30:30
list. I would, I, I'm not even going
30:33
to look it up, but I would guess there's a lot of names that are
30:36
in that category that have all been within the last 1520 years
30:42
of, of playing in the NBA. So majority of the names on that
30:45
top ten list are in that category.
30:48
So I think that there could be if you're going to continue to
30:50
see baseball valuing the home run, yeah, I would say that list
30:57
is probably the most reachable compared to some of these
31:02
others. You know who the closest active
31:04
player is on that list to crack in the top ten in home runs.
31:09
Without looking active player. Active player.
31:23
I'm trying to think, I feel like it's a.
31:28
Is it like an obvious one? Yeah.
31:34
Yeah. But I mean, I, I could see like
31:36
I could see somebody overlooking this as they look to maybe more
31:40
quote UN quote obvious names. Trying to think of like older
31:45
hitters older. I'll give you a hint, he's on
31:51
the outside of the top 50 looking in.
31:55
That's outside of the top 50. That's where we're at with,
31:58
with, with that pursuit. Outside of the top 50, I don't
32:06
know why I'm struggling with this.
32:08
I don't Nah. He plays for your team.
32:15
Stan. Giancarlo Stanton, at age 3415
32:19
years in the league, has 429 home runs, currently sitting at
32:23
51st on the all time home run leaders list.
32:28
Yeah, I think he broke in late though, didn't he?
32:37
Well, 15 years. He was 20.
32:45
Yeah. After that, after that, you got
32:47
Mike Trout. Yes.
32:48
I mean, it's, it's really interesting to see.
32:52
I was going to say Mike Trout, by the way.
32:53
That's where I was leaning. Yeah.
32:55
It's just interesting to see how some of these lists are going to
32:59
be locked in for some time because it is as likely is it as
33:05
likely as it is that the home run leaders list could change
33:09
sooner than say some of these other stats.
33:13
You have to, you have to remember pitching is getting the
33:18
like pitching is getting more difficult for hitters, like it's
33:23
becoming more of a challenge. It's becoming better, it's
33:25
becoming faster and and the league is having to make
33:29
accommodations. You know, we, we go a few years
33:32
back, they were throwing out the idea of shall we move the mound
33:35
back, things like that. So as as good as these these
33:39
hitters are, as as the like the as impressive of feats as we're
33:45
seeing from these guys, balls getting hit harder, farther
33:49
pitching is also improving. It's also trending upwards.
33:55
So you know, all that to say, sort of rant over.
33:58
But it's it's just interesting to see to see how the evolution
34:02
of the game is affecting the trajectory of potential history
34:06
being made. That's all.
34:07
Yeah, going back to that home run conversation real quick, I
34:10
was looking at Juan Soto just like I was like, let's grab a
34:16
young hitter who we know has hit a decent amount of home runs,
34:20
currently at two O 1. So he's averaging 35 home runs a
34:24
year. So I was like, even if we keep
34:27
that average and we give him 12 more years because he's only 25,
34:31
let's give him 12 more years of averaging 35 home runs a year,
34:35
which is crazy. That would give him 6/21 at the
34:40
end of his career. Which would put him 8th behind
34:47
Ken Griffey, which is, which is extremely impressive.
34:56
But even then, like, you're just cracking the top ten, basically.
35:00
Yeah, Yeah. Wow.
35:02
Anyway, enough top ten talk. I I just wanted to dive do a
35:08
little bit more of a deep dive into that that TikTok I put out,
35:10
which by the way, get a little more active on TikTok.
35:13
So a little shameless plug for that if you're.
35:15
Not you're still following that. Go head up to TikTok.
35:18
Nate and I were actually just talking before we hopped on.
35:20
I think we're going to we're going to sort of make some
35:23
tweaks to the type of content we're putting out there.
35:25
We're we're finding a little bit of a groove on on things that we
35:30
want to put out there. So be on the lookout for some
35:32
unique content that you're not going to necessarily find here
35:35
on the podcast. But what you are going to find
35:39
on this podcast are some drafts. But before we get to that, but
35:48
but before we get to the drafts, we got some quote.
36:22
All. Right, buddy, this is tough.
36:29
This is tough. New whiteboard.
36:33
No. Same one, same one.
36:35
Didn't make the return. Nah, wasn't worth it.
36:39
It was like $5. I'm going to give you a little
36:42
context with this quote, and then I'll give you the episode
36:48
and year after the quote. This is wild.
36:53
We were talking. I'm going to turn this into,
36:56
sorry not to interrupt, What's the what's the jeopardy?
37:01
I'm going to turn this into jeopardy.
37:02
I'm going to write my answer. OK.
37:04
And show it we were talking about top 25 under 25.
37:11
I remember this episode. We're going Korea number one.
37:18
I'm keeping that. Hold on, is this the quote?
37:21
Yeah, OK. We're going Korea number one.
37:24
I'm keeping that. But yeah, looking at it, I got
37:27
to keep Bregman at 2:00 and then Ben attend Benintendi 3, so I'm
37:33
bumping Walker Buehler. This is episode 41, January
37:44
31st. 2019 Wow, you want to talk about aging like milk?
37:51
Sending it back. Well, it's not our fault.
37:55
I mean, that was just the state of baseball.
37:57
Like Benintendi was a was a was a dude back in the day.
38:01
Yeah. Oh my goodness.
38:03
I mean, Bueller too. Wow.
38:05
Yeah, dude, I you stumped me on this one.
38:10
I mean, I know all of these are always coin flips.
38:12
Because I noticed this was a short, this is a tough quote
38:15
because there was so much back and forth during this
38:17
conversation. And so I, I tried to kind of
38:22
keep it. But yeah, I wanted to, I wanted
38:24
to try a little little stumper out there.
38:29
Wow. We're going Korea, number one.
38:31
I'm keeping that. But yeah, looking at it, I got
38:34
to keep Bregman at 2:00 and then Benintendi 3, so I'm bumping
38:39
Walker Buehler. This sounds like a This sounds
38:44
like a Nate quote. Ding Ding, Ding.
38:53
And you said this was? This was 19, so this would have
38:59
been when. Just to give you an idea, I, I
39:06
if you want, I can kind of read through 'cause I have the script
39:10
from from when we were reading it.
39:20
Let me go back. Just just crazy to see some of
39:25
these names and like us not being totally, totally in.
39:30
So 25, Jose Peraza, 24, Brad Keller, 20.
39:45
I think we kind of skipped past the names.
39:47
I don't know. Oh, 23 was Shane Bieber, 22
39:54
Yohan Moncada, 21 Josh Hader, 20 Ian Hap.
40:01
God, Yohan Moncada dude, that's the name that keeps me up at.
40:03
Night now it's crazy that he fell off.
40:06
I would have loved for that to pan out. 19 was Harrison Bader.
40:12
18 was Miguel and Duhar. 17 was Jack Flaherty, 16 Willy Adamus,
40:19
15 Ozzy Alby's, 14 Matt Olson, 13 Alberto Mandisi, 12 Gleber
40:27
Torres, 11 Jose Brios, 10 was Benintendi. 9 was Shohei. 8 was
40:41
Juan Soto. OK, now we're we're catching a
40:44
little steam here. 7 was Herman Marquez, 6 Bueller, 4 Correa, 3
40:53
Bellinger, 2 Acuna, then one was Bregman.
41:01
Wow, right. And if I if I recall, this
41:06
wasn't our crafted list, right? Wasn't this in reference to like
41:10
a this? Was like an actual yeah, it came
41:12
out. I think it was like ML BS.
41:15
It was ML BS post. Wow, isn't that crazy?
41:21
Insane this. Is this is what our our topic
41:25
for the episode so. I was the state of the state of
41:28
baseball. Yeah, wild, huh?
41:33
Look how quickly the game could change like names on that list.
41:37
I don't think we really understood Ronald Acuna quite
41:41
yet and we clearly weren't paying attention to Shohei
41:46
enough yet because he he had come in.
41:48
But like, we were still on that like Japanese Babe Ruth
41:52
narrative or like, I don't know if we're ready to give him that
41:54
yet. Rightfully so, but you know, he,
41:57
he he made it happen. And look at look at the
42:00
narrative now, you know. Yeah, that that's just a good
42:04
reminder. We're not here to, we're not
42:05
here to report. We're just here to react.
42:07
We weren't, we weren't putting that list out.
42:09
We were just responding to to what had been put out into the
42:11
universe. That's right.
42:15
Speaking of the universe, we've got quite a lot of names out
42:21
there to pull from in this in this draft on deck.
42:28
It is the rookies of the year drafts.
42:33
I'm excited for this one dude. There's some, there's some dudes
42:39
in this one. So for this draft, the Rookies
42:43
of the Year draft, we're choosing from all previous
42:46
Rookie of the Year winners, otherwise known as the Jackie
42:50
Robinson Award winners. How are we doing positions?
42:57
How do you want to do this? Do we just want to go like name
42:59
for name or do we want to just like a traditional, traditional
43:06
draft? Yeah, how do we do this?
43:12
I, I feel like we just go straight up and you you can fill
43:16
out. I mean, we, you'll still have to
43:17
fill out a, a, a diamond for sure.
43:20
But it there's no, we don't need like a, a randomizer or anything
43:26
like that. You just kind of you got to fill
43:28
it out. OK.
43:29
Does that work? Yeah.
43:31
As far as positions go, do we have to like put them in the
43:35
position they played that year? I mean, we can leave it up for
43:40
interpretation, but I mean, if if a guy's an outfielder, if
43:44
he's sort of known as an outfielder, you stick him in the
43:46
outfield. But I mean, we can, we can, we
43:49
can leave it up to the chat, you know, like if there's a if
43:52
there's something that's sort of up for interpretation, we can
43:57
leave it to the chat. All right.
43:58
So if we're going, if we're going traditional draft rules
44:03
here style, I should say structure, fill out, fill out a
44:09
line up. You got 3 outfielders for it.
44:11
Is that how you want to do it? 3 outfielders, 4 infielders,
44:13
pitcher, catcher and ADH. All right.
44:19
And you won, didn't you? I did I I confirmed with the
44:23
pole on the story and I was able to come out Victoria.
44:29
So I'm back on top with that first pick.
44:34
It's been a minute since I had that.
44:38
In fact, I don't think I've had a first pick in these drafts
44:40
since we started this recent round of drafts that we started
44:45
a couple weeks ago. So this is new territory for me.
44:49
But with that said, my first pick, oh, well, no, no, there's
44:58
no way of knowing there. I was going to say the whole
44:59
like war thing, top thing. There's no way of knowing, but
45:05
my first pick is going to be none other than the say Hey Kid
45:20
himself. I cannot believe you were going
45:22
to do that. I cannot believe you're going to
45:25
do that. That's so annoying.
45:28
I cannot believe I'm getting swooped the first freaking pick.
45:32
Oh yeah, because there's no talent left.
45:35
You're right. I mean, the the rest of this
45:36
list sucks. What are we talking about?
45:39
Give me Willie Mays. I hate you.
45:43
For my outfield, I mean, I think I just won the draft right
45:46
there. I hate you.
45:52
You're so annoying. I get back-to-back picks.
45:57
Yeah. So, I mean, good, enjoy, enjoy
46:01
having your second and third pick of these of these names.
46:04
And I'll admit, like there's a lot of names to pick from the
46:07
it's very possible we may overlook somebody.
46:09
But I'm going to make sure I'm going to do my best to ensure
46:11
that that doesn't happen, at least on my part.
46:14
Yeah, I can't speak for you, but.
46:16
I get back-to-back picks. Yeah.
46:20
Snake draft Derek Jeter and Cal Ripken, junior.
46:24
Wow. That's that's a solid start.
46:31
Yeah, You know, is this your, is it the best start that you could
46:35
have had? Absolutely not.
46:37
Who just for just for clarification, are you going?
46:41
Who's your first pick of those two?
46:44
Jeter, just because it's me. Your Jeter guy.
46:47
Yeah, Wow, what a fall off. I got to say Willie Mays to to
46:51
Jeter. I think I think in terms of, I
46:54
think in terms of first picks. Yikes.
46:58
All right, I'm going to go with my next rookie of the year pick.
47:04
I am going to go. Wait, So I why am I forgetting
47:19
this? So I get back-to-back picks now,
47:20
right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
47:21
OK. Oh boy.
47:23
From here on out, it's just back-to-back picks.
47:26
Is that how it's always been with these drafts?
47:27
Why do I not remember being like that?
47:31
Is that how we've done the last few drafts?
47:35
Why does that not sound right? It doesn't sound right.
47:44
Right. Am I crazy?
47:46
That's it. This is what two person drafts
47:51
does to you. It messes with your brain.
47:52
No, hold on. Wouldn't we?
48:01
What the heck? Help me out here.
48:05
What? I don't think we always do.
48:06
Back-to-back. Back-to-back pigs.
48:11
Wouldn't it just be flip flop like back and forth?
48:14
One would think. But we've done back-to-back
48:20
picks in these recent. Drafts what?
48:22
I feel like it makes sense for me to have back-to-back picks
48:24
after the first pick, right? What is happening right now?
48:38
Why like we've done back-to-back picks before, like the snake
48:42
draft and it made sense, but why is it, why is it not clicking
48:46
right now that what happened? Let me look at the last draft we
48:51
did. I'll keep scrolling here.
48:56
Oh, you know what it was? It was because it was a.
49:01
It was a predetermined category, so you had to start the new
49:07
category if you didn't the category before.
49:11
So like for the state draft, you would start first on a state and
49:15
then I would get to start. Does that make sense?
49:18
Sure. Yeah.
49:22
So like if if you like West Virginia, you started with
49:25
George Brett. I went Bill Mazeroski.
49:26
So I went second there, but then I started first on North Dakota.
49:30
The next one. So technically, yeah, it's no.
49:35
No, this because this is a traditional draft, we're only
49:38
doing, we're all we're just alternating because there's no
49:42
category. No, no, no, I, I think it just
49:45
goes back and. I think it's back and forth
49:51
after this. But why would you get
49:57
back-to-back picks it it would just alternate?
50:01
Now it alternates. I think you're making this up.
50:04
I I am. Can we figure this out though,
50:09
because this is, I mean, we're talking like the, the, the front
50:13
of the draft here. So this is, this is important
50:15
because I mean, this is where it's it's won or lost here now,
50:23
dude, we're way overthinking this.
50:27
It's just alternating. So you need to take off your
50:31
Ripken pick. That's messed up man.
50:34
No, because I got first pick. You get second.
50:37
No, we're way over thinking this.
50:39
It think about it like you're you're selecting a team in
50:42
backyard baseball. You, you don't, you just you
50:44
make a pick, the other team makes a pick, you make a pick.
50:46
So we're way over thinking this. Am I?
50:48
Taking Cal Ripken off because you're taking Cal Ripken.
50:52
No, I haven't even thought about that.
50:54
I'm I'm simply trying to figure out like.
50:56
Which? Turn it is.
50:57
I have thought about it, but that's not who I'm picking.
51:08
Actually, no, you're right. I'm absolutely taking you're.
51:10
Such a jerk. Dude, Cal Ripken with my second
51:13
pick. Yeah, OK, so that makes me feel
51:17
better. The only reason we're not doing
51:19
snake draft is because there's not a predetermined category.
51:21
We're just whatever, bro. This is traditional.
51:24
This is traditional draft order. What a steal.
51:32
Cal Ripken out of out of Nate's grasp.
51:35
Just snatched. It's just, I think it's rude,
51:40
but you do you. You do you.
51:56
I want I want Albert pools. As.
52:03
Your, I don't know, see, that's what I'm asking is like back in
52:06
the days the left fielder. Well, OK, he's for this
52:11
exercise. He's not a left fielder.
52:13
He's either going to be your your infielder.
52:14
Or your TH. I'll put it on the field.
52:20
That's your second pick. I'm going to go with.
52:34
I'm going to go with. My next pick will be.
52:51
There's so it's like it's legit like ranking one A1B1C.
52:59
One, it's like the whole thing one.
53:02
Z Yeah. Man.
53:14
You know what? You know what's encouraging
53:16
about this list is that more, more than not went on to have
53:23
great careers. Yeah.
53:26
I mean, you're really only seeing a couple flops here.
53:29
Yeah. Give me.
53:34
Like Giovanni Soto in 2008, Tough, tough, tough year for the
53:42
NL. That year, I guess, give me.
54:00
Bro, the song's over this. Is tough OK, I'm I'm not going
54:05
to overthink this. Give me.
54:18
Give me Mike Trout in the outfield.
54:20
You're so annoying with this. You're so annoying.
54:26
Give me Mike Trout in the outfield.
54:28
The amount Oh, I don't understand how you're doing this
54:32
to me. Here's the thing.
54:56
What's the thing? The reason it took me so long is
54:59
because they're still just a list of names available, so it's
55:08
not as if I'm just leaving you with scraps, OK?
55:13
I have an A preset order in my head of what I like.
55:17
You've got a draft queue. Yeah, I'm going to queue it up.
55:23
Not to influence the jury by any stretch, but I.
55:28
Mean, yeah, this is the only thing you do is influence the
55:33
jury? No freaking time.
55:35
Hey, you have every right to to to share your piece.
55:39
I don't think that's legal. You have every right to share
55:41
your. Piece.
55:41
It should be put out blindly. No, no name attached to it.
55:45
What does that matter? Because maybe there's some
55:49
favoritism happening. Nate, the people love you.
55:52
I don't know what you're talking about clearly, because if, if
55:55
the favoritism exists, it it exists for you because I've I've
55:59
lost all but maybe a couple of drafts since we've ever done
56:03
drafts. Whatever, give me shohei DH.
56:07
Yeah, I figured. Just because I did not think he
56:12
was going to make it back to me. That was my plan.
56:15
It was my child and Shohei. Give me, give me.
56:41
Wow. Stacked.
56:44
The 90s are stacked. Give.
56:52
Me Eric Karos in 92 What are we doing .4 war?
56:59
Give me Jackie Robinson on my infield.
57:02
Sure. Not bad.
57:26
Man. You have some classic names
57:29
unfortunately. I sure do.
57:33
I don't. I don't really.
57:38
Yeah, yeah. Lacking a little bit there.
57:48
Wow. I'll take he grows all right
57:54
outfield. Putting him in your outfield,
57:59
yeah. Where was the where was the what
58:07
year was he 63? Where was the Where's the
58:14
breakdown? What you mean?
58:19
Positionally. Just positionally.
58:26
I mean I know he was a first basic a decent amount.
58:30
I just I was. Just like how much he played.
58:32
I was just curious as he I can, why can I never find the
58:34
positional breakdown? You just got to go down a little
58:37
bit further. Standard fielding.
58:45
Oh, that's right. Maybe I need to put him in.
58:53
He's all over the place. No, I mean, I really don't care.
58:57
You really could slot him in anywhere.
58:58
I was just. Curious.
58:59
You really could. So you put him in the outfield.
59:01
Yeah, I'm putting him in the outfield.
59:03
All right, so that's your 4th pick.
59:06
My 5th pick I'm going to go. Some names on here.
59:28
Give me Marty Cordova throwback Marty Cordova throwback name
59:36
give. Me.
59:38
What do I need? What do I need here?
59:41
One outfield spot left, two infield spots left and your DH.
59:50
And a picture. Give me man, I need.
1:00:22
Give me, give me Johnny Bench behind the dish.
1:00:30
Sure, sure. I don't like your dismissive
1:00:34
tone. Too bad, deal with it.
1:00:42
Good luck. Good luck searching for scraps
1:00:45
behind the dish after bench. Yeah, Mike Piazza is a real bum.
1:00:51
Well, I mean, you're talking about the greatest of all time
1:00:54
to not the greatest of all time. So, comparatively speaking.
1:01:13
Man oh man do I want to pull the trigger on some guys.
1:01:27
You know, you know, it'd be interesting.
1:01:29
And in fact, I'm going to do this just because you I, I made
1:01:33
the note earlier about how more than not of this list went on to
1:01:38
have great careers. I'm going to create, I'm going
1:01:41
to, I'm going to list out the career wars that these guys have
1:01:46
massed and see what the discrepancy is.
1:01:48
I like that. I'd like to see the before and
1:01:50
after or not before and after but results between the two.
1:01:58
Shout out 2001 man, give me Ichiro in the outfield.
1:02:00
Oh, good pick. Good pick.
1:02:04
I'm not going to lie, I I don't even think I remember seeing him
1:02:08
on here, No. Isn't that there's like a weird
1:02:10
header? Yeah, separates 2001.
1:02:13
That's what it was. Kind of makes you scroll past
1:02:15
all. Right.
1:02:17
So that's. 7.7 war that year, that's crazy.
1:02:23
Dude, Mike Trout with a 10/5. Is nuts, yeah.
1:02:28
Give me I've got this draft in a chokehold right now.
1:02:40
I. Feel pretty good all.
1:02:49
Right. Give me.
1:03:02
Man, this is tough. Wally Moon.
1:03:09
Now that's 1954. Bob Grimm and Wally Moon.
1:03:14
Classic. Give me, I'm going to put.
1:03:46
Give me, give me Bryce Harper on my infield all.
1:03:59
Right. I was curious on when that name
1:04:04
was going to go for you. That's my 6th pick.
1:04:11
Give me Tom Seaver on the bump. Good pick, Good pick.
1:04:16
I was. I was keeping him in the hopper
1:04:19
just in case he felt too late, but that's a good pick up.
1:04:22
So that's your 6th pick. It's already back to me.
1:04:26
Give me, give me, give me Fernando Mania
1:04:50
on the bump. OK, respect.
1:05:01
What year was that? That was where'd he go 8181 a 5
1:05:12
three that year, which I think it goes without
1:05:26
saying, but I mean, we're taking these guys just like it's it
1:05:34
goes beyond the scope of just a rookie year.
1:05:36
Like, I don't, I don't expect anybody to judge this through
1:05:39
the lens of like, oh, how they do the rookie year because.
1:05:45
I hear you on that argument. Does that make sense?
1:05:47
Sure, I'm going to hit you with a more recent name.
1:05:57
Here you got pulling the trigger.
1:06:08
Here, I think I'm going to pull the trigger.
1:06:10
I'm going to put Aaron Judge in my outfield.
1:06:11
OK, I mean, it's not your worst pick, so that's your 7th.
1:06:19
All right, so we checking in here.
1:06:22
I need an outfielder, an infielder and ADH.
1:06:28
You need 2 infielders and a catcher.
1:06:33
All right, so an outfielder, an infielder and DH.
1:06:35
That's easy enough. Let's see what we got left here.
1:06:39
Give me. You know what I'm about to do.
1:07:02
Do you know what I'm about to do?
1:07:03
What? Are you about to do?
1:07:14
I'm I'm literally going to win the draft right here.
1:07:20
You think, and you know why? Why?
1:07:26
Because I'm going to pull out from underneath.
1:07:32
You don't piss me off because I got somebody.
1:07:39
I'm going to pull out from underneath you the
1:07:40
aforementioned next best option for catcher, and I'm slotting
1:07:46
him in my DH. I'm putting Mike Piazza.
1:07:49
At my DH, that's fine. You're just out here playing
1:07:53
games. That's.
1:07:54
All I'm playing chess while you're playing checkers.
1:07:58
That's fine. I'm going to put Frank Robinson
1:08:00
in my infield. That's fine.
1:08:02
Go ahead and put Buster Posey behind the dish.
1:08:05
That's solid. What's wrong with Buster Posey?
1:08:08
Nothing, right? Hey, no, no slander towards
1:08:10
Buster Posey. But when we're talking about,
1:08:12
when we're talking about Johnny Bench and Mike Piazza on the
1:08:15
same team, A. Lot of slander.
1:08:17
Speaks for itself. All right, so you're putting.
1:08:24
Frank Robinson in the infield. So that leaves you with one
1:08:27
infielder and a catcher. I need an infielder and an
1:08:30
outfielder. Give me, I mean, I could.
1:08:35
I'm playing with house money at this point.
1:08:39
Let's see here. Who do I want to round out this
1:08:43
team? That was a good pick, by the
1:08:48
way. I don't know if I mentioned
1:08:49
Frank Robinson. Thank.
1:08:50
You. I had my.
1:08:51
Own surprise there wasn't more respect thrown my way for that.
1:08:55
No, no, for sure, for sure. I was just still riding high off
1:08:59
the Piazza pick. Give me.
1:09:16
Oh, oh, no, don't it. No, no, no, stop.
1:09:20
You don't even know. You don't even know.
1:09:26
Give me Rod Carew on my infield. Solid.
1:09:42
You need an infielder and a catcher.
1:09:52
I mean, look, I I don't want to gloat here, but do do I even
1:09:59
need to put the graphic out? I feel what There's nothing
1:10:03
wrong with this team that I've got.
1:10:05
There's absolutely nothing wrong with what.
1:10:07
There's nothing wrong with your team, but if you just look, look
1:10:12
across the way here, I mean stacked I I had a 3000.
1:10:27
Because you swooped 3 names from me that were absolutely going to
1:10:31
be picked. I had a it's.
1:10:33
All out just who went first? I had a 3000 hit guy and Rod
1:10:38
Crew was my 9th pick. My second to last pick if that.
1:10:44
If that doesn't win a draft I don't know what does.
1:10:46
Did Rock Crew ever see timeout in
1:10:59
the outfield? Barely 1978.
1:11:06
It's all the time. Yeah.
1:11:09
It's all the time, all right? All right, well, maybe just to
1:11:18
buy myself a little bit more time.
1:11:21
Oh, I'm back and forth between two names.
1:11:28
I've just, just because of just because of the number of rings
1:11:38
and success, I am going to put Buster Posey behind the dish.
1:11:43
But Thurman Munson was a hard consideration.
1:11:49
Cut short, you know. Yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm not going
1:11:51
to lie, I feel like you got to, I got you got to play to the
1:11:53
voter. And and while I'm sure there's a
1:11:57
percentage of people that would appreciate the Thurman Munson
1:11:59
vote. Yeah.
1:12:01
I feel like you got to go recency bias here.
1:12:04
So that's your 9th pick? My 10th and final pick, needing
1:12:10
an outfielder, I'm going to go. I think I know.
1:12:22
Do you? I'm going to go.
1:12:42
Can I put him out there? Can I put him out there?
1:12:47
Oh, shoot. Can't do it.
1:12:55
You're trying to squeeze something in.
1:12:58
Actually, no. If we're if we're following our
1:13:00
rules, he is listed as such. Is that fair?
1:13:04
It's cool. Give me with 521 career home
1:13:13
runs, a Hall of Famer, an MVP and obvious Rookie of the Year
1:13:25
or my final outfield spot. Give me Willie Lee Mccovey.
1:13:31
Respect. My goodness, my goodness.
1:13:52
Wow, what a day. This was all about who goes
1:13:56
first. It really wasn't.
1:13:59
It really was Willie Mays. Come on, you, I don't think you
1:14:07
would have. Would you have gone cow pick #2
1:14:09
if I didn't immediately go cow pick #2?
1:14:12
Be honest. He was I'll I'll say this, he
1:14:17
was not going to fall lower than three for me.
1:14:20
He was either going to be my second or third pick.
1:14:23
It was it was either going to be Willie and then maybe Trout and
1:14:28
then cow, but he was not going to.
1:14:31
He was not. I mean, it wasn't like I climbed
1:14:34
the board to get him. He he was, he was going to be
1:14:36
there one way or another for me. Yeah, it's going to be my
1:14:42
second. And you knew that that changed
1:14:45
the whole, but I don't. Want to hear?
1:14:46
No, I don't want to hear the whole it's all about who went
1:14:48
first when you literally went with Jeter as your first pick.
1:14:52
Nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with that,
1:14:54
but like. The number 4 on the list of top
1:14:57
ten hits of all time. I get it, but like. 5 readings.
1:15:04
You could have made the argument.
1:15:05
In fact, it's probably not I. Probably could have got them
1:15:07
later. Yeah, like you could have, you
1:15:09
could have went with like a pool holes for example off the top
1:15:13
and that would have been a better fit I think for a first
1:15:18
pick. But you went Jeter so.
1:15:21
The whole drop off for the infield.
1:15:22
The whole going first thing kind of goes out the window.
1:15:27
Yeah, I just, I didn't think you were going to go Willie Mays.
1:15:29
I didn't think you were going to Scroll down.
1:15:32
I didn't think I was going to go Willie.
1:15:33
Mays, I thought you were just going to get stuck.
1:15:35
My goat. You didn't think I was going to
1:15:38
go Willie Mays? I didn't.
1:15:49
There's a bit of a drop off in the infield.
1:15:56
Would you have snagged Mccovey if he was still on the board?
1:16:00
Probably not, to be honest. Really.
1:16:02
Yeah, I guess I just didn't really think numbers with
1:16:09
Mccovey. I didn't really.
1:16:12
Yeah, that, that's more because. That's like a surprise name that
1:16:14
I don't think most people are like 521 home runs, you know?
1:16:19
Yeah, that's going to be one of those picks where like if if you
1:16:22
know ball, if you know ball, that's a good pick.
1:16:25
But I I will admit there's probably there was probably a
1:16:28
sexier pick I could have gone with probably, probably
1:16:32
certainly sealed the deal, but. I don't think there's anything
1:16:35
wrong with it. Oh man.
1:16:39
Well, I guess there's not much point in holding out much
1:16:46
longer. I still think I got a good team
1:16:48
by the way, but I don't think I'm going to get too much love
1:16:53
for it. Let me just confirm.
1:16:55
I don't think I'm going to get a ton of love for it because I I
1:16:59
liked him. He's one of my favourites to
1:17:02
watch so if you don't agree I don't care.
1:17:08
I'm going to. I'm going to round it out with
1:17:09
Scott Rowland in the infield. All right, Hall of Famer there
1:17:19
you have it. All right, so recapping,
1:17:22
recapping the the drafts here in order.
1:17:28
Kyle with Willie Mays. Nate with Derek Jeter second
1:17:33
pick. Kyle with Cal Ripken second pick
1:17:35
for Nate. Albert Pools 3rd pick for Kyle.
1:17:39
Mike Trout third pick for Nate. Shohei Otani 4th pick for Kyle.
1:17:44
Jackie Robinson 4th pick for Nate.
1:17:46
Pete Rose 5th pick for Kyle. Johnny Bench 5th pick for Nate.
1:17:52
Ichiro Suzuki, otherwise known as Ichiro, 6th pick for Kyle.
1:17:57
Bryce Harper 6th pick for Nate. Tom Seaver 7th pick for Kyle.
1:18:02
Fernando Valenz Valenzuela 7th pick for Nate.
1:18:05
Aaron Judge, 8th pick for Kyle. Mike Piazza, 8th pick for Nate
1:18:10
Frank Robinson, 9th pick for Kyle.
1:18:12
Rod Carew, 9th pick for Nate Buster Posey and final pick for
1:18:17
Kyle. Willie Mccovey and final pick
1:18:21
for Nate. Scott Rolen.
1:18:28
I'm excited to pick first for whatever draft we do, whatever
1:18:32
draft we do next. I'm sure.
1:18:35
Hey, here's your chance to influence the the the jury.
1:18:39
You all, you you're. Saying I mean this, that's why I
1:18:42
started just going newer, just started going a little newer.
1:18:46
That's why that's why Aaron Judge happened.
1:18:50
That's why Buster Posey happened.
1:18:51
Just started going for the newer, the newer, younger
1:18:54
listener out there who maybe is new to Ball and is preferring to
1:19:01
vote on a team that they've all you know for the most part
1:19:04
watched. No disrespect towards any of
1:19:06
these other names to really take any of these names because
1:19:10
obviously I mean, to win a rookie of the year in baseball
1:19:13
is impressive in and of itself. But some names in particular
1:19:19
that maybe you could you could raise some questions on Ronald
1:19:25
Acuna Junior being left off the list.
1:19:26
I thought you might have gone there.
1:19:28
I thought that's who I thought you were doing for instead of
1:19:30
Acuna. Yeah, it was either Makovia or
1:19:32
Acuna. Let's see who's the other one.
1:19:39
Mark McGuire, depending upon how you feel about that got left off
1:19:42
the list. Nomar Garcia, Parra.
1:19:43
Another name, Pedroia. Jeff Bagwell.
1:19:48
Doctor Willis, what's your name? Yeah, I mean the the list,
1:19:53
Darrell Strawberry, the list goes on.
1:19:57
Eddie Murray was still left. Eddie Murray was a consideration
1:20:00
for me, Dwight. Yeah, yeah.
1:20:06
Lou Whitaker. Some good names on here.
1:20:11
Good names. Carlton Fisk.
1:20:17
Some names on here. Anyway, another draft in the
1:20:21
books. If the offseason continues to be
1:20:26
this slow, you're going to get a lot more draft.
1:20:28
Well, I mean, let's just call like it is.
1:20:29
You're going to get a lot of draft content from us moving
1:20:31
forward until the season starts anyway.
1:20:33
But we're we might get a little, we might get a little weird with
1:20:37
these drafts if, if we're going to continue to progress.
1:20:40
I like, I didn't mind this, I didn't mind this, but I do like
1:20:43
the categories. I think the categories throw in
1:20:46
wrenches versus just an outright draft that it's.
1:20:49
Like, yeah, I just wanted to mix it up a little bit.
1:20:52
Yeah, I like, I like some categories that I think we got
1:20:56
to add in. Sometimes you got to try
1:20:58
something to new to know what you really like.
1:20:59
And I think I think you're right.
1:21:01
I think we do like the snake style category, randomizer type
1:21:04
draft. So we'll keep that in mind
1:21:07
moving forward. But I will get a, I'll work on
1:21:09
getting this graphic out, get the poll out there and let
1:21:13
people vote. But I think we already know the
1:21:16
result. But anyway, that's all I really
1:21:17
got, unless you got anything else for the folks.
1:21:21
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This is a top tier lid, so Kyle rocking the rope hat.
1:21:48
There's a lot of options out there.
1:21:50
The The drip has been turned up a notch in the recent present
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so. Classic recent present.
1:21:58
Yep, you guys are awesome. Appreciate you.
1:22:03
What does the hat say? Don't go chasing curveballs.
1:22:09
We. Love you and as always, looking
1:22:10
forward to talking more baseball with you guys soon.
1:22:12
Until next time, stay filthy.