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Psychic Boundaries, Attachments & Spiritual Discernment with Claudine · Mediumship Sparks-The Next Chapter

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  Speaker 1: Last week, Clauding and I spent time talking about self
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  Speaker 1: trust and learning to believe our own experiences. As the
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  Speaker 1: conversation continued, it naturally shifted into something just as important, boundaries, discernment, attachments,
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  Speaker 1: and how to tell the difference. Clouding gives some really
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  Speaker 1: helpful distinctions. Welcome to mediumship Sparks, where we connect more
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  Speaker 1: deeply with spirit and source and follow the sparks of
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  Speaker 1: insight and inspiration that bring us greater awareness, healing, and
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  Speaker 1: just more flow into our lives. I'm Noel dean intuitive medium,
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  Speaker 1: licensed therapist, and your host. A quick note before we begin.
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  Speaker 1: This podcast is for educational purposes only and provides general information.
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  Speaker 1: It is not medical or psychological advice and is not
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  Speaker 1: a substitute for care from a licensed health professional. I'm
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  Speaker 1: so grateful we get to step into this together. Let's
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  Speaker 1: dig in. I am more afraid of the human invader, hey,
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  Speaker 1: more than spirit, and I've had not so great energies
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  Speaker 1: show up. I have a nephew who has some very
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  Speaker 1: serious mental health issues, and it occurred to me like,
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  Speaker 1: oh crap, what if that's actually somebody in spirit or
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  Speaker 1: energy that is bringing a lot of this craziness ish
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  Speaker 1: to this young man, I work to do some relieving
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  Speaker 1: of the energies that were attached to him, and then
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  Speaker 1: I got visited by somebody who was clearly upset about
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  Speaker 1: that negative energy. That's the worst that it's become a
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  Speaker 1: few times, and that's me not having great boundaries. That
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  Speaker 1: wasn't that you can't deal with it when it happens,
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  Speaker 1: but you really have to back to trusting yourself and
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  Speaker 1: know yourself, really be able to put up firm lines,
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  Speaker 1: just like with people in relationship.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, treat spirit like people. And also don't call
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  Speaker 2: on spirit if you're not going.
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  Speaker 3: To have a relationship with them.
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  Speaker 2: Never talk to them for twenty years and be like,
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  Speaker 2: oh I need your help.
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  Speaker 3: Talk to them. They're listening. I have it on my
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  Speaker 3: bookshelf right now.
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  Speaker 2: The Unquiet Dead by Adi Fior. I believe removing attachment.
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  Speaker 2: I call them attachments the Japanese exorcism when I lived
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  Speaker 2: in Japan and they helped me renewab a lot of attachments,
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  Speaker 2: and that's when I started seeing the other side of spirituality.
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  Speaker 2: I saw all the angles I was raised by angels
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  Speaker 2: and then for them to be like, oh, you've got
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  Speaker 2: a lot of attachments on me.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, what, what are attachments like?
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  Speaker 2: Little ghost stuck like physical stuck energies. We can call
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  Speaker 2: them ghosts, or we can come with negative energies, just
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  Speaker 2: energies that haven't crossed over yet for whatever reason they
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  Speaker 2: chose not to, so they just attached themselves to humans
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  Speaker 2: who are alike to them. I believe that we attract
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  Speaker 2: always not consciously right and consciously attract those like not
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  Speaker 2: so great energies. We also release them too when we
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  Speaker 2: feel good. But if you're not feeling good and you're
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  Speaker 2: stuck in this kind of depressive state, that energy that's
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  Speaker 2: feeding off of you or living vicariously through you can get.
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  Speaker 2: In that book, she writes really beautiful ways of removing
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  Speaker 2: them yourself, and it's just like honestly energy cleansing, one
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  Speaker 2: on one. That's really what it is, removing all the
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  Speaker 2: gunk that you want to let go.
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  Speaker 1: Love that I interacted for the purpose of the podcast,
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  Speaker 1: but also to see if I could help somebody with schizophrenia,
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  Speaker 1: and there's a series of it on the podcast earlier
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  Speaker 1: called Am I Crazy or Connected? It's a young man
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  Speaker 1: who was diagnosed twenty six years earlier with schizophrenia, and
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  Speaker 1: he had a lot of various attachments, but one in
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  Speaker 1: particular that I ended up striking up a bit of
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  Speaker 1: a inappropriate relationship with that I had to release. It
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  Speaker 1: was firsthand a very intense but really good lesson on
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  Speaker 1: you can attract a certain kind of energy and not
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  Speaker 1: have good boundaries. Before you really realize it, they've infiltrated
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  Speaker 1: the lack of boundaries and you have to remove that
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  Speaker 1: and you can be subject to whatever comes through because
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  Speaker 1: of that. I don't feel like I'm making a lot
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  Speaker 1: of sense, but no, you're.
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  Speaker 2: Making perfect sense as you're speaking. I speak through movies.
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  Speaker 2: Interview with the Vampire, the one with Brad Pitt and
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  Speaker 2: Tom Cruise in nineties one. From the beginning Louie brad
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  Speaker 2: Pitt is talking about how he became a vampire is explaining,
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  Speaker 2: I believe in the movie his wife and child have
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  Speaker 2: been taken to live. So he was gambling and wring
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  Speaker 2: and just whatever, just trying to live on the wild side.
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  Speaker 2: He had zero will to live and anything was open invitations,
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  Speaker 2: like he had said in a nutshot, and a vampire
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  Speaker 2: is what accepted the invitation. He had zero will keep
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  Speaker 2: going until Vampire came over, and I feel like similar
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  Speaker 2: where we're in depressive state, we have zero boundaries. We
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  Speaker 2: just don't care anymore. We don't know what can be
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  Speaker 2: open to that invitation. So boundaries are really important.
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  Speaker 3: It's absolutely the same person.
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  Speaker 2: We have locks on our doors and stuff, only the
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  Speaker 2: senergy can come through and everyone else can.
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  Speaker 1: Bound I love that I'm finding myself at night as
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to sleep, that I am creating like a
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  Speaker 1: wave of energy to push everything away from our house
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  Speaker 1: and push it all to the ocean to be recycled.
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  Speaker 1: Not in all directions, because there are times I can
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  Speaker 1: feel like the lingering of energies. They're not right with me,
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  Speaker 1: but I can sense that they're around, and so I'm
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  Speaker 1: always feeling a lot more aware of setting a clear
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  Speaker 1: boundary pushing that kind of energy away. Human as well
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  Speaker 1: as spirit.
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  Speaker 3: Human is a trickier one. That's a hard one. My els.
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  Speaker 3: I good intention, just like.
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  Speaker 2: I want to be a jerk.
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  Speaker 1: But I love the idea of these universal tools of
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  Speaker 1: keeping ourselves safe and connected to ourselves, regardless of the
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  Speaker 1: package that an energy or a being comes in. We
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  Speaker 1: need to have this integrity with ourselves and even keeping
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  Speaker 1: our energy clean, and when we get depressed or we
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  Speaker 1: have pysical health issues, especially mental health issues, it's great
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  Speaker 1: to look at the energy and sometimes it's helpful. I
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  Speaker 1: have a friend who was really struggling with depression and
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  Speaker 1: having conversation with the energy of her depression.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry, tell me more, No, it's all good.
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  Speaker 1: I was actually ideas for readings come to me, and
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  Speaker 1: it occurred to me to do that with physical issues,
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  Speaker 1: which I've done before I was trained in medical intuition. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: I remember having this conversation with the energy of her
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  Speaker 1: depression at Dan. That crazy Dan, He's added again, but
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  Speaker 1: Dan was also looking out for his person. There were
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  Speaker 1: times when she had low energy and she would overdo
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  Speaker 1: and then she had to recuperate, but she didn't know how.
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  Speaker 1: So Dan would come visit and then it would feel
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  Speaker 1: like depression. But Dan was actually helping her regenerate and recharge.
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  Speaker 3: That is fascinating.
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  Speaker 2: That is so cool. I love the idea of talking
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  Speaker 2: to our depression. Earlier, you mentioned schizophrenia, and I have
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  Speaker 2: a story on schizophrenia, and that's something that's really hard
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  Speaker 2: for me because I remember when I lived in Japan,
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  Speaker 2: a really good friend of mine, she was normal from
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  Speaker 2: what I could tell. And then one day she I
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  Speaker 2: see things and I was like, me too, as a
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  Speaker 2: medium and I hear things like me too.
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  Speaker 3: It's normal.
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  Speaker 2: She's talking about actually physically hearing and seeing things. And
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  Speaker 2: I felt like I could have said different things. I
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  Speaker 2: could have helped her in a different way. And I
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  Speaker 2: have so much regret about that because then finding out
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  Speaker 2: that she was having a schizophrenic episode and what we
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  Speaker 2: were talking about was not.
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  Speaker 3: On the same page.
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  Speaker 2: There's that fine line between intuitive or seeing and feeling energy.
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  Speaker 2: Knowing that the physical world is right here in front
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  Speaker 2: of us physically, we can touch this, we can see that,
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  Speaker 2: we can speak through our mouths and hear through our ears.
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  Speaker 1: Right, let's talk about this. I'm driven to help alleviate
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  Speaker 1: your guilt.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Try this on. I learned a lot talking to the
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  Speaker 1: young man Scott through the Crazier Connected interview, and then
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  Speaker 1: we stayed in touch. I had my own relationship with
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  Speaker 1: the entity. I don't use his name, but we spent
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  Speaker 1: a lot of time together. Wow and then cool though, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I got sucked into believing that this is Look if
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  Speaker 1: somebody is a stalker and taunts them for twenty six years,
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  Speaker 1: let's not pretend that they're an okay guy and now
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  Speaker 1: they're trying to be different. And I was foolish and
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  Speaker 1: believe that, and then at some point I could not
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  Speaker 1: distinguish between my thoughts and his voice. Scary, yeah, mildly
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  Speaker 1: terrifying when I realized it, and then I was like,
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  Speaker 1: that's it, and I had to stop interacting. That's why
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  Speaker 1: I don't even use the name. But I shared about
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  Speaker 1: this with Scott when we were sitting in this room
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  Speaker 1: right here, having our initial conversation and interview, because I'm
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  Speaker 1: looking for what's the difference. A lot of us will
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  Speaker 1: worry that we're schizophrenic and not a medium, So tell
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  Speaker 1: me what it's like to be schizophrenic. Even before we met,
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  Speaker 1: I experienced the entity. And then when we're sitting here,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, you mean in that corner because I'm
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  Speaker 1: seeing like a red and he's yeah, yeah, that's him.
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  Speaker 1: And it was the first time that anybody had ever
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  Speaker 1: been able to validate what he was experiencing. So Scott
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  Speaker 1: didn't know if this was an actual energy or something
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  Speaker 1: that his brain made up from what he was told
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  Speaker 1: it was in his brain. But I had a whole
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  Speaker 1: relationship with this entity. It was indeed in his brain.
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  Speaker 2: That's fascinating. If I was trained back then. We don't
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  Speaker 2: keep it on in contact anymore. I wonder if I
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  Speaker 2: could have seen that too. She didn't physically see things.
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  Speaker 2: She saw a door where it was a three story
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  Speaker 2: window and she walked up. So that's why I'm thin
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  Speaker 2: flurring reality. But I do see where you're going with
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  Speaker 2: the entity, right, and there are entities that they're probably
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  Speaker 2: seeing picking up on.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, he's a medium. And when we spoke a few
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  Speaker 1: months after that initial interview, I never posted that, but
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  Speaker 1: it's on my YouTube channel. He was like, Okay, now
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  Speaker 1: I can see that I'm sixty percent to medium forty
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  Speaker 1: percent schizophrenic difference. He could see and we talked about it.
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  Speaker 1: He could see people in spirit with other people. He'd
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  Speaker 1: be walking down the street and he would see maybe
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  Speaker 1: the grandpa and spirit hanging out trailing behind the guy.
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  Speaker 1: It was nice to help him reframe for himself. But then, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's these other visuals. It was very overwhelming for him,
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  Speaker 1: but it was nice that not all of it was
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  Speaker 1: like this confabulation in his mind or his brain chemistry.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's probably different levels of it, and but yeah,
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  Speaker 2: who's to say that they're not just super sensitive and
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  Speaker 2: seeing it's so fascinating and it's hard to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: You're a therapist, you can say things, but I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm none of those, so as think about it, but yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's it's so fascinating.
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  Speaker 1: There are times I think about reaching out to people
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  Speaker 1: who have schizophrenia to be like, let me see if
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  Speaker 1: I can see what's going on with you, so I
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  Speaker 1: can say, oh, this, so Ted is real and I'm
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  Speaker 1: getting he was a real estate broker, but this other
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  Speaker 1: stuff I'm not. But maybe it's validating to be like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: eighty percent of what you're experiencing are just energies that
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  Speaker 1: are hanging on from people who haven't crossed over or
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  Speaker 1: like attachment energies. It might not even be a distinguishable person.
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  Speaker 1: But I feel like there's a lot of middle ground
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  Speaker 1: that hasn't been pursued.
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  Speaker 2: For sure, And everyone has different beliefs. I am somebody
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  Speaker 2: that does believe in ghosts because I've experienced it hand
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  Speaker 2: so many times. I see them as energies or whatever reason.
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  Speaker 3: I haven't crossed over yet.
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  Speaker 2: I definitely do see that because they are not cross
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  Speaker 2: the nware because they still want to be human.
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  Speaker 1: How can you tell somebody as a ghost, what is
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  Speaker 1: that experience versus somebody who crossed over.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure everyone experiences differently, but when I tune in,
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  Speaker 2: it feels denser and it feels more human and like
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  Speaker 2: like I'm talking to a human rather than like when
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  Speaker 2: it's spirit. They have their essense sill. They're speaking from love.
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  Speaker 3: All the time. Ghost energy doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: It speaks from anger or thoughts thought forms. Interesting because
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  Speaker 2: I believe when we let go over our body and
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  Speaker 2: we go into spirit, we let go the thought forms
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  Speaker 2: and we see our life and we're like, heal those wound.
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  Speaker 2: Our soul evolves, strengthens. So when people speak from a
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  Speaker 2: soul space, the spirit space, they speak out of love.
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  Speaker 2: They still have their memory. They'll talk about remember that
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  Speaker 2: time we went fishing. But I do believe that it's
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  Speaker 2: not as haunted as a person who did not cross
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  Speaker 2: over yet. There's transition stages as well, because I've done
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  Speaker 2: readings for people where their father was in a transitional space.
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  Speaker 2: He wasn't quite yet. Heels still have mean Yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: maybe there could have been transitional space. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: My sister was in transition for that first year, and
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  Speaker 1: we didn't interact a whole lot at first. When she passed,
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  Speaker 1: we did. The grandmother would always show up as a
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  Speaker 1: quote supervisor. There were months where we didn't interact at all.
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  Speaker 1: I just didn't sense her around. And then on the
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  Speaker 1: one year anniversary, when I had set out the intention,
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  Speaker 1: Hey let's meet because I'd love to have you on
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  Speaker 1: the podcast, that was the first healed, feeling conversation that
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  Speaker 1: we'd had together.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I also feel them differently. When it's ghost it
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  Speaker 2: does feel creepy. Crawley, it doesn't feel great. The little
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  Speaker 2: hairs on my arms stand up on my neck, it's
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  Speaker 2: like getting in the chills. That's kind of how I
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  Speaker 2: feel with ghost energy.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting, a little creeped out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, my body is saying, whoa, this is not normal.
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  Speaker 2: But if it's loved one, it feels like a hug
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  Speaker 2: or I feel like my heart is open and I'm
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  Speaker 2: only speaking out of love. When we're talking like it
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  Speaker 2: feels like it's all out of love. But when it's
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  Speaker 2: ghost energy, it feels more like my body, my energy
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  Speaker 2: is a little more.
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  Speaker 1: Contract nice distinction. Thank you for sharing that. That was
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  Speaker 1: very clear. All of it is subtle. So we have
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  Speaker 1: to get really good at nuance. Yeah, yeah, so hard.
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  Speaker 2: And we all work differently. So the way you feel
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  Speaker 2: a spirit is different than the way I feel spirit.
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  Speaker 2: It's different than the way the listener feels a spirit.
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  Speaker 2: We're all unique, we're all snufflakes, and it's amazing. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you got to figure out how you work.
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  Speaker 1: That is so true.
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  Speaker 2: And no book is written. You can't read books and
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  Speaker 2: it works. No, you got to go out there and
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  Speaker 2: you know, test it out.
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  Speaker 1: You can't think your way through it. You have to
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  Speaker 1: be willing to experience it.
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  Speaker 2: It's definitely you got to pick up the street smart.
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  Speaker 2: So go out there, feel the spirit. They all feel different.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I just want to say to that that
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  Speaker 1: even if you mess up, I have made some pretty egregious,
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  Speaker 1: stupid errors. So just encouraging our listener and also ourselves
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  Speaker 1: to still be willing to experiment. If you get in
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  Speaker 1: over your head, reach out to somebody else that can
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  Speaker 1: support you in spirit or in a body who can
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  Speaker 1: help see clearly what's happening. I had reached that point
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  Speaker 1: with the entity connected with Scott. I had reached out
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  Speaker 1: to friends for help because I was like this is
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  Speaker 1: going sideways. I knew I was going to over my head.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of support even if you don't have
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  Speaker 1: friends that do that kind of work. Reaching out to
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  Speaker 1: a medium through word of mouth, or if you're listening
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  Speaker 1: to Claudine talk and you're really resonating with what she's
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  Speaker 1: saying and how she's saying it and her philosophy about things,
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  Speaker 1: Claudine would be a beautiful person to reach out to
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  Speaker 1: it because nothing scares her in a good way. Yel
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  Speaker 1: So she'd be like, but nobody would come to either
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  Speaker 1: of us about human issues. But what kind of work
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  Speaker 1: do you do with people in your sessions? What's your
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  Speaker 1: ideal client and or situation that you're engaging with.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for that ideal clients I work with right now.
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  Speaker 2: I work with women who are sensitive. You know, there's
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  Speaker 2: more to the world than what they see, feel things,
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  Speaker 2: and I want to help them strengthen their self trust
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  Speaker 2: and intuition so that when they see the things that
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  Speaker 2: they see, they have a space to speak from that confidence.
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  Speaker 3: They don't feel alone.
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  Speaker 2: You can always call on your guides. You don't have
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  Speaker 2: to know who they are. Make the intention to connect
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  Speaker 2: to love, say I'm feeling really scared right now. I'm
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  Speaker 2: connecting to love. Love comes through, comes through now, help me,
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  Speaker 2: stay with me, support me. This is boundary. When I
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  Speaker 2: first started connecting to Spare, I always set the boundary.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a clear and present channel of pure source energy
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  Speaker 2: for the good of all. I would align my chakras,
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  Speaker 2: say my little mantra, and only intend to work through
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  Speaker 2: and from love, and I still do so. I feel
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  Speaker 2: like that's really important to just go out there and
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  Speaker 2: get a Wigi board, because then you're just opening up
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  Speaker 2: to any energy. Make sure you are opening up to love,
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  Speaker 2: to your guides, to those who love you, your angels,
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  Speaker 2: your mother, father's grandmother, great great great grandmother, whatever it is.
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  Speaker 2: They're there for us. I feel like they are. They're
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  Speaker 2: always around us. Just call them them.
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  Speaker 1: They respect our free will, so we actually have to
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  Speaker 1: ask for help. We have to ask for intervention totally.
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  Speaker 1: What else would you like to share? What else would
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  Speaker 1: you want people to know about you? How to find you?
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  Speaker 1: What is specific to you as a medium and a reader.
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  Speaker 2: I have my Instagram and my YouTube and some TikTok
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  Speaker 2: at Claudine Mediumship. So my YouTube page is called Mediumship
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  Speaker 2: journeys with Claudahem. I'm growing that and I do have
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  Speaker 2: a school that I'm opening up, school being skol, which
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  Speaker 2: is going to be opening up after the fourth of
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  Speaker 2: July week as a free community. Right now, I am
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  Speaker 2: doing a mentorship of women. Were a group of five women,
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  Speaker 2: six including myself, and I'm helping them through their own
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  Speaker 2: goddess descent in Nana's descent, into coming out feeling trusting
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  Speaker 2: of their own energy, feeling confident with how to communicate
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  Speaker 2: with not only spirit, but just with all the science
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: that they're getting from the university. We're called the Grounded Circle.
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  Speaker 2: It's a eight week mentorship. I'm probably going to do
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: this again later on in the year, but between then
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: and now, I'm going to open up a free school community.
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  Speaker 2: But we can work on self trust. So that's my
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  Speaker 2: goal is the self trust piece of the spirit communication peace.
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  Speaker 2: And I have a website Claudine Mediumship dot com.
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  Speaker 1: And Claudine is with a C not a K.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: See oh my gosh, what the K would be fabulous
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  Speaker 2: though Claudine.
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  Speaker 1: Need a little bit of phlem maybe to get the K.
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  Speaker 2: Really, this is so fun. I learned so much about
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  Speaker 2: you and I wish we could talk forever and let's
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: get all the questions.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, I could keep going too. I'm enjoying this completely,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: and it's nice to talk about some of the things
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: that are specific mediums but just human beings, to really
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: dig a little bit through the dirt with somebody else
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: who's had to dig also to compare our findings and
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: see we all end up on the same page. But
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: you're right, each of us has our own way of
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: navigating this path and it is frustrating that it's different,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: because if it was the same, we could read about
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: it and be like, oh, I'm normal, but it is
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: different for everybody. I'm glad you're out there doing what
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: you're doing and mentoring women in this deep journey of
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: self trust to come out on the other side of that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited for the women you're working with the school
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  Speaker 1: and open community and sharing the skills you've developed. That's
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: really powerful and generous.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for that community. I'm a hermit, so community
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: has been coming through really strong and recently I need
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: community even though I'm a German. It's really community is
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: really important.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Tribe, and then you get to feel normal, you do.
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  Speaker 2: Because then you get to exchange stories and be like, Okay,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: that crazy, right, someone gets it, someone else.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Cout I'm almost boring in my own way exactly. Thank
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: you and thank you all for joining us here today.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: And I'm going to put Claudine's contact information in the
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: show notes to reach out to her. This was wonderful.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Thanks, This is so much fun.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Thank you sending them back. Thanks for spending this time
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: with me on Mediumship Sparks. If this episode resonated with you,
• 20:54
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• 20:57
  Speaker 1: somebody else who could benefit. If you're interested in any
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: support I might be able to provide as you navigate
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: your spiritual path, please feel free to check out my
• 21:05
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• 21:09
  Speaker 1: at Mediumship Sparks Podcast at gmail dot com. Take good
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: care of yourself and I'll look forward to being with
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: you again soon