Latest / The Epstein Chronicles / Mega Edition: Virginia Roberts Responds To Maxwell's Summary Judgement Request (Part 4-6) (6/7/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
- 0:04In this episode, we're going to continue looking at Virginia
- 0:07Roberts response to Khlai Maxwell's motion for a summary Judgment
- 0:13number seven, The Black Book. Palm Beach police confiscated an
- 0:18extensive list of contacts with their phone numbers from defendant
- 0:21and Epstein's residents. Kallaie Maxwell maintained a contact list in
- 0:26an approximately one hundred page long hard copy which was
- 0:30openly available to other house employees. It consisted primarily of
- 0:35telephone numbers, addresses, or email addresses for various personal friends, associates, employees,
- 0:42or personal or business connections of Epstein or the defendant.
- 0:47Prior to being terminated by defendant, the Palm Beach House
- 0:51butler Alfredo Rodriguez printed a copy of this document and
- 0:55ultimately provided it to the FBI. This document reflects the
- 0:59new or as phone numbers of defendant Epstein, as well
- 1:03as staff phone numbers. Additionally, and importantly, there are several
- 1:07sections entitled massage alongside a geographical designation with names of
- 1:12females and corresponding telephone numbers. These numbers included those of
- 1:17underage females with no training in massage therapy including redacted,
- 1:22redacted and redacted identified during the criminal investigation of Epstein.
- 1:28This document is an authentic reflection of the people who
- 1:31are associated with Epstein, defendant and the management of their
- 1:35properties and the knowledge each had of the contents of
- 1:39the document. Number eight Sex Slave Amazon dot Com book
- 1:43receipt Detective Recarry authenticated an Amazon dot Com receipt that
- 1:48the Palm Beach Police collected from Jeffrey Epstein's trash. The
- 1:52books he ordered are titled one SM one oh one
- 1:57A Realistic introduction by Jay Wiseman, Number two slave Craft
- 2:02road Maps for Erotic Servitude Principles, Skills and Tools by
- 2:07Guy Baldwin. And three Training with Miss Abernathy, a workbook
- 2:12for Erotic Slaves and their Owners by Christian Abernathy. As
- 2:16shown below, this disturbing two thousand and five purchase corroborates
- 2:20Miss Roberts account of being sexually abused and exploited by
- 2:24defendant and Epstein, not to mention the dozens of underage
- 2:29girls in the Palm Beach police report. Additionally, defendant testified
- 2:34that she was not with Jeffrey Epstein in two thousand
- 2:37and five. In two thousand and six when he was
- 2:40ordering books on how to use sex slaves. However, record
- 2:43evidence contradicts that Testimony number nine Thailand folder with defendant's
- 2:49phone number. Defendant also was integral in arranging to have
- 2:53Virginia go to Thailand. While Epstein had paid for a
- 2:57massage therapy session in Thailand, there was a catch. Defendant
- 3:01told Virginia she had to meet young girls in Thailand
- 3:04and bring her back to the US for Epstein and defendant. Indeed,
- 3:08on the travel records and tickets, defendant gave two Virginia
- 3:12defendant road on the back the name of the girl
- 3:15of Virginia was supposed to meet, and she was also
- 3:18instructed to check in frequently with defendant, as it was
- 3:22further signified by the words call miss Maxwell nine one
- 3:26seven redacted on Virginia's travel documents. In this case, Virginia
- 3:31also produced the hard copy records from her hotel stay
- 3:35in Thailand paid for by Epstein. See McCauley's declaration at
- 3:40exhibit number one, number ten. It is undisputed fact that
- 3:45the FBI report and the Churchery emails referenced Miss Roberts
- 3:48accounts of sexual activity with Prince Andrew that she made
- 3:52in twenty eleven, contrary to the defendant's argument that Miss
- 3:56Roberts has never made such claims until twenty fourteen. Based
- 4:01on the FBI's interview of Miss Roberts in twenty eleven,
- 4:05they wrote a report reflecting Miss roberts claims concerning her
- 4:09sexual encounters with Prince Andrew. Additionally, twenty eleven correspondents with
- 4:15Sharon Churcher shows that Miss Roberts disclosed her sexual encounters
- 4:20with Prince Andrew, but Churcher had to check with the
- 4:22publisher's lawyers on how much can be published. From Sharon
- 4:27Churcher mail on Sunday to Virginia Roberts, Hi, there been
- 4:31up all night writing. Won't have an opinion from our
- 4:34lawyer on how much can be published until London wakes up.
- 4:38The lawyers wanted internal FBI documents, but I think the
- 4:42Justice Department letter is all you have from the Feds. Anyway,
- 4:45I can give you a call early afternoon, maybe have
- 4:48a late lunch. See McAuley declaration at Exhibit thirty four
- 4:53Roberts zero zero three six seven eight. Accordingly, there is
- 4:57documentary evidence that refutes defendants meritless argument that Miss Roberts
- 5:02did not allege she had sex with Prince Andrew until
- 5:05twenty fourteen. To the contrary, two sources, including the FBI,
- 5:10show Miss Roberts made these claims in twenty eleven. See
- 5:14defendant has not produced no documents whatsoever that tend to
- 5:18show that she did not procure underage girls for Jeffrey Epstein.
- 5:24Defendant has produced no documents that even tend to show
- 5:27that she did not procure underage girls for sex with Epstein,
- 5:32and no documents that tend to show that she did
- 5:34not participate in the abuse. Indeed, defendant refused to produce
- 5:39any documents dated prior to two thousand and nine, which
- 5:42includes the two thousand through two thousand and two period
- 5:46during which she abused Miss Roberts. Against this backdrop of
- 5:50an avalanche of evidence showing the defendant sexually trafficked Miss Roberts.
- 5:55Summary judgment on any of the issues advanced by defendant
- 5:59is in a place apropriate. While we discuss the particulars
- 6:02of the individual claim below, the larger picture is important too.
- 6:07Miss Roberts will prove that trial that Epstein and defendant
- 6:11sexually trafficked her. And yet, when Miss Roberts had the
- 6:14courage to come forward and expose what defendant had done
- 6:18to the world in a court pleading trying to hold
- 6:20Epstein accountable, defendant responded by calling her a liar in
- 6:24a press release intended for a worldwide publication. Such heinous
- 6:28conduct is not a mere opinion, but rather a defamation
- 6:32executed deliberately and with actual malice. The jury should hear
- 6:36all of the evidence and then render its verdict on
- 6:39Miss Roberts's complaint. Part three Legal Standard. Rule fifty six
- 6:45of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure provides that emotion
- 6:48for some rejudgment may be granted only when there is
- 6:52no genuine issue as to any material fact, and that
- 6:56all moving parties is entitled to a judgment as a
- 6:59map of law. The Second Circuit has repeatedly held that
- 7:04all ambiguities and inferences to be drawn from the underlying
- 7:07facts should be resolved in favor of the party opposing
- 7:11the motion, and all doubts as to the existence of
- 7:14a genuine issue for trial should be resolved against the
- 7:17moving party. Swan Brewery Company Limited versus US Trust Company
- 7:22of New York, eight thirty two f dot supp seven
- 7:26fourteen seven seventeen, sdn Y nineteen ninety three, Sweet Jay
- 7:31citing Brady Burst Town of Colchester, eight sixty three, f
- 7:36dot two D two five two ten, Second Circuit, nineteen
- 7:40eighty eight. In other words, in deciding a motion for
- 7:44some rejudgment, the court must construe the evidence in the
- 7:47light most favorable to the non moving party, and draw
- 7:50all reasonable inferences in the non moving parties favor in
- 7:56agent Orange product lab Littig five dot one seven f
- 8:00dot three d seventy six eighty seven, Second Circuit, two
- 8:04thousand and eight. Stern versus Cosby six forty five F
- 8:09dot su pp two d two fifty eight two sixty nine,
- 8:13SDNY two thousand and nine. Some rejudgment should be denied
- 8:17if the evidence is such that a reasonable jerry could
- 8:20return a verdict in favor of the non moving party.
- 8:24See net Jets Aviation Incorporated. Versus LHC LLC five thirty
- 8:29seven F dot three d one sixty eight, one seventy
- 8:33eight and seventy nine, Second Circuit, two thousand and eight,
- 8:37Part four. Legal argument. A defendant is liable for the
- 8:41publication of the defamatory statement. And damages for its publication.
- 8:47Defendant's lead argument is that when she issued a press
- 8:50release attacking Miss Roberts to members of the media, she
- 8:54somehow was not responsible when the media quickly published her attacks.
- 8:58If accepted, this remarkable claim would eviscerate defamation law, as
- 9:03it would permit a defamer to send a defamatory statement
- 9:06to the media and then stand back and watch immune
- 9:09from liability when, as in this case, the defamatory statements
- 9:14are published around the world. This absurd position is not
- 9:18the law, particularly given that the defendant released the statement
- 9:22to the media asking them to police find attached and
- 9:25quotable statements on behalf of Glenn Maxwell to make her
- 9:29claim seem plausible. Defend incites older cases, some dating back
- 9:33as far as nineteen oh six. This presents a distorted
- 9:36picture of the case law on these issues, as a
- 9:40leading authority on defamation explains. With regard to liability for
- 9:44republication by another of statement by defendant, two standards have evolved.
- 9:49The older one is that the person making the defamatory
- 9:53statements is liable for a republication only if it occurs
- 9:57with his or her express or implied authorization of consent
- 10:03the more modern formulation as responsibility for all republication that
- 10:07can reasonably be anticipated or that is the natural and
- 10:12probable consequence of the publication sack on defamation Section two
- 10:17dot seven dot two at two DASH one thirteen and
- 10:20two DASH one fourteen, fourth edition, twenty sixteen. In this case, however,
- 10:26the nuances of the applicable legal standards make little difference,
- 10:31because defendants so clearly authorized, indeed desired, and did everything
- 10:35possible to obtain publication of her defamatory statements attacking Miss
- 10:41Roberts one. Under New York law, defendant is liable for
- 10:46the media's publication of her press release. Given the obvious
- 10:50purposes of defamation law, New York law unsurprisingly assigns liability
- 10:55to individuals for the media's publication of press releases. Indeed,
- 11:00New York appellate courts have repeatedly held that an individual
- 11:04is liable for media publishing that individual's defamatory press release.
- 11:09C Levy versus Smith, eighteen NYS dot three D four
- 11:13thirty eight four to thirty nine one thirty two A
- 11:16dot d dot three s D nine sixty one, nine
- 11:20sixty two and nine sixty three NYAD second Department, twenty fifteen. Generally,
- 11:27one who makes a defamatory statement is not responsible for
- 11:30its recommunication without his authority or request to another over
- 11:35whom he has no control. Here, however, the appellan intended
- 11:40and authorized the republication of the allegedly defamatory content of
- 11:44the press releases in the news articles National Puerto Rican
- 11:48Day Parade Incorporated versus Cost of Publications Incorporated nine fourteen,
- 11:54nys DOT two D one twenty one, twenty three, seventy
- 11:58nine a dot d Dot three d D five ninety two,
- 12:01five ninety five NYAD one Department twenty ten, Affirming the
- 12:07refusal to dismiss defamation counts against a defendant who submitted
- 12:11an open letter that was published in a newspaper, and
- 12:14that the defendant paid to have the open letter published,
- 12:17and finding that the defendant authorized the newspaper to recommunicate
- 12:21his statements. See also Restatement second of Torts, Section five
- 12:26seventy six, nineteen seventy seven. The publication of a libel
- 12:30or slander is a legal cause of any special harm
- 12:33resulting from its repetition by a third person, if the
- 12:37repetition was authorized or intended by the original defamer or
- 12:42the repetition was reasonably to be expected. Defendant deliberately sent
- 12:48her defamatory statement to major news media publishers for worldwide circulation.
- 12:53Because Defendant wanted the public at large to believe Miss
- 12:57Roberts was lying about her abuse, Defendant even hired a
- 13:01public relations media specialist to ensure the media would publish
- 13:05her statement. Her efforts succeeded. Her public relations agent instructed
- 13:09dozens of media outlets to publish her quotable defamatory statements,
- 13:14and they did. Despite this deliberate campaign to widely publicize
- 13:18her defamatory statement, Defendant now claims any responsibility for the
- 13:23media publishing her press release. If we understand Defendant's position correctly,
- 13:28because she somehow lacked control over what major newspapers and
- 13:32other media finally put in their stories, she escapes liability
- 13:36for defamation. This nonsensical position would let a defamer send
- 13:41a false, defamatory letter to major media, and then, when
- 13:44they published the accusation, escape any liability. Such an argument
- 13:49is not only an affrontal logic, but is contrary to
- 13:52prevailing New York case law cited above. Perhaps even more important,
- 13:57in the context of the pending summary judgment motion, it
- 14:00would have required defendant to convince the jury that she
- 14:03did not authorize or intend for the major media to
- 14:06publish her press release. Obviously, the disputed facts on this
- 14:10point are legion, and summary judgment is accordingly inappropriate. Even
- 14:17the cases defendant sites contradict her argument. She first cites
- 14:21Geraci versus Props, in which a defendant sent a letter
- 14:24to the Board of Fire Commissioners and years later a
- 14:27newspaper published the letter. The court held that the defendant
- 14:31was not liable for the belated publication made years later
- 14:35without his knowledge or participation Idea three p. Forty. By contrast,
- 14:40defendant not only authorized the defamatory statement, but paid money
- 14:44to her publicists to convince media outlets to publish it promptly,
- 14:49actions taken with both her knowledge and consent. Defendant statements
- 14:54was thus not published without her authority or request as
- 14:57in Jerachi, but by her express authority already mbuyer express request,
- 15:03Defendant's publicist, testimony and documents produced by defendant's publicist unambiguously
- 15:09established that the media published her press release with Defendant's
- 15:13authority and buyer request. Question when you sent that email
- 15:18were you acting pursuant to Miss Maxwell's retention of your services? Answer? Yes,
- 15:23I was. Question the subject line does have FW, which
- 15:27to me indicates it's a forward. Do you know where
- 15:30the rest of this email chain is? Answer? My understanding
- 15:34of this is it was a holiday in the UK,
- 15:36but mister Barton was not necessarily accessible at some point
- 15:40in time, so this had to be sent to him
- 15:42originally by Miss Maxwell, and because he was unavailable, she
- 15:46forwarded it to me for immediate action. I therefore responded, Okay, Glane,
- 15:50I'll go with this. It is my understanding that this
- 15:54is the agreed statement. Because the subject of the second
- 15:57one is urgent, this is the statement, so I take
- 16:00that as an instruction to send it out as a
- 16:03positive command. This is the statement. Similarly, another case cited
- 16:08by defendant Davis versus Costa Gavrus involved a libel claim
- 16:13against a book author who wrote an account of the
- 16:15nineteen seventy two military coup in Chile years later. The
- 16:19plaintiff attempted to ascribe defamation liability to a third party
- 16:23publishing house decision to republish the book in paperback form
- 16:27and a third party filmmaker who released a movie based
- 16:30on the book. The court held that a party who
- 16:33was innocent of all complicity in the publication of a
- 16:36libel cannot be held accountable, but that a deliberate decision
- 16:40to republish or active participation in implementing the republication resurrects
- 16:46the liability five eighty f Dot supp Ten eighty two,
- 16:50ten ninety four SDNY, nineteen eighty four. Here, defendant made
- 16:55a deliberate decision to publish or press release and actively
- 16:59participated in that process. At the very least, the jury
- 17:03must make a determination of whether the defendant was innocent
- 17:06of all complicity for a libelist statement contained in her
- 17:10press release. Finally, defendant sites Caradouman First Newsday Incorporated. Four
- 17:17sixteen and dot E dot two d five fifty seven,
- 17:20nineteen eighty which held that reporters of a series of
- 17:23articles on narcotics trade cannot be held personally liable for
- 17:27injuries arising from its subsequent republication in book form, absent
- 17:31of showing that they approved or participated in some other
- 17:35manner in the activities of the third party republisher ID
- 17:39four sixteen and dot E dot two d at five
- 17:42point fifty nine and five sixty. Again, the injury could
- 17:46reasonably find that defendant both approved of and even participated
- 17:51in the media's publication of her press release. Indeed, it
- 17:55is hard to understand how any jury could find anything
- 17:58else was obviously active in influencing the media to publish
- 18:03her defamatory press release. She both approved of and pushed
- 18:07for the publication of the press release. Accordingly, she is
- 18:11liable for its publication. Therefore, disclaiming responsibility for the media's
- 18:16publication of a statement for which she hired a publicist
- 18:20for the purpose of influencing the media to publish that
- 18:23statement is contrary to both prevailing case law and the
- 18:27case is cited by the defendant. All right, folks, we're
- 18:30going to wrap up there. In the next episode, we'll
- 18:32pick up where we left off with the defendant is
- 18:35liable for the media's publication of the defamatory statement. All
- 18:40of the information that goes with this episode can be
- 18:43found in the description box. What's up, everyone, and welcome
- 18:47back to the Epstein Chronicles. This episode, we're going to
- 18:51pick up where we left off with Virginia Roberts response
- 18:56to the Glain Maxwell attempt to get a summary judge
- 19:00in their defamation case. So let's get right back to it.
- 19:04Number two. Defendant is liable for the media's publication of
- 19:09the defamatory statement. After arguing, contrary to the New York law,
- 19:13that she is not liable for the media's publication of
- 19:16her own press release, defendant next argues that she is
- 19:20not liable for the media's publications of the defamatory statement
- 19:24contained within her press release if the media chose to
- 19:28make even the tiniest of editorial changes. If we understand
- 19:32Defendant's argument correctly, any omission of any language from a
- 19:35press release is somehow a selective, partial publication for which
- 19:40she escapes liability motion at fourteen. Once again, this claim
- 19:45is absurd on its face. It would mean that a
- 19:47defamer could send to the media a long attack on
- 19:50a victim with one irrelevant sentence, and when the media
- 19:54quite predictably cut that sentence, well, they escape liability for
- 19:58the attack or over Even on its face, the clan
- 20:02presents a jury question of what changes would be in
- 20:05context viewed as selective or partial publications, something that only
- 20:11a jury could determine after hearing all of the evidence
- 20:15in support of this meritless argument defend in Sides Ran
- 20:18versus New York Times Company for the proposition that a
- 20:21defendant cannot be liable for a publisher's editing and excerpting
- 20:26of a statement four thirty nys dot two D two
- 20:29seventy one two seventy four seventy five a dot D
- 20:33dot two D four seventeen four twenty two n dot
- 20:37y dot a dot D nineteen eighty. This argument fails
- 20:41for several reasons. First, there is no republication by the media.
- 20:45As a matter of law. Defendant issued a defamatory statement
- 20:49to the press, and its publication as defendant intended, is
- 20:53not a republication under the law as discussed above. Second,
- 20:57there was no editing or a paraphrasing, or a time
- 21:00taking the quote out of context of the core defamatory
- 21:03statement in the press release that Miss Roberts is a liar.
- 21:07The obvious lies passage is the heart of the message
- 21:10defendant sent to the press that Miss Roberts was lying
- 21:14about her past sexual abuse. Even in isolation, defendants quote
- 21:18stating that Miss Roberts claims or obvious lies does not
- 21:21distort or misrepresent the message defendant intended to convey to
- 21:26the public that Miss Roberts was lying about her claims.
- 21:29As this Court explained in denying Defendant's motion to dismiss,
- 21:33this case involves statements that explicitly claim the sexual assault
- 21:37allegations are false. Roberts versus Maxwell, one sixty five f
- 21:42Dot su Pp Dot three D one forty seven one
- 21:46fifty two SDNY twenty sixteen. Furthermore, the facts at issue
- 21:51here make the Rand holding in opposite. In Rand, a
- 21:55newspaper paraphrased and sanitized defendant's words. No such changing, sanitizing,
- 22:01or paraphrasing occurred in the instant case. The media quoted
- 22:05defendant statement accurately. Further the phrase at issue in RAND
- 22:09was that certain people screwed another person. The Speaker newspaper
- 22:13used the term screwed in reference to our record label's
- 22:16dealings with a performing artist. N did not mean screwed
- 22:19in a literal sense, but as rhetorical hyperbole, and as
- 22:24such is not to be taken literally. By contrast, there
- 22:28is no hyperbole in defendance defamatory statement, and it was
- 22:31never distorted or paraphrased by any publication known to Miss Roberts.
- 22:37A jury could reasonably conclude that defendant statement that Miss
- 22:40Roberts's claims of child sex abuse or obvious lies is
- 22:44not a rhetorical device nor hyperbole, but a literal and
- 22:48particular affirmation that Miss Roberts lied accordingly. There is no
- 22:53support in the factual record that the media reporting what
- 22:57defendant stated that Miss roberts claims of childchildhood's sexual abuse
- 23:01are obvious lies is a distortion of the defendant's message
- 23:05or hyperbole. Even a cursory review of the press release
- 23:09would lead to that conclusion. Moreover, to the extent that
- 23:12there is any dispute that defendant statement had a different
- 23:16meaning outside of the context of the remainder of the
- 23:18press release, such a determination of meaning and interpretation is
- 23:23a question of fact for the jury to decide, and
- 23:25is inappropriate for determination upon some rejudgment. B Material issues
- 23:31of fact preclude some rejudgment. One the bardon declaration presents
- 23:36disputed issues of fact. The primary basis of Defendant's motion
- 23:40for some rejudgment is here attorney self serving post talk
- 23:44Abbi David, wherein he sets forth his alleged intent with
- 23:48regard Defendant's defamatory statement. Miss Roberts disputes Defendant's attorneys alleged
- 23:54and unproven intent not to mention Defendant's intent, not only
- 23:58because Defendant refuew uses to turn over her attorney's communications,
- 24:02but also because questions of intent are questions of fact
- 24:06to be determined by a trier of fact. Furthermore, ample
- 24:10record evidence contradicts the claimed intent a. The Barden declaration
- 24:16is a deceptive backdoor attempt to inject Barden's advice without
- 24:20providing discovery of all attorney communications. In her brief, Defendant
- 24:25discloses her attorneys alleged legal strategy and alleged legal advice. However,
- 24:29she deliberately states that her attorneys intended instead of her
- 24:33attorney advised when discussing her attorney's legal strategy and advice,
- 24:38using that phrase at least thirty seven times, and using
- 24:41phrases such as Barden's beliefs, purposes, goals, and contemplations twenty
- 24:46five other times, all the while defending is claim privilege
- 24:50as to her communications with Barden. Defendant attempts to convince
- 24:54the court that she only granted Gal permission to publish
- 24:57the defamatory statements as part of if mister Barden's deliberated
- 25:01and carefully crafted MSJA at sixteen Legal Strategy and Advice,
- 25:06Yet she still refused to turn over her communications with
- 25:10Barden under the auspices of attorney client privilege. Such gamesmanship
- 25:15should not be permitted. If the court were to consider
- 25:18the Barden declaration, which it shouldn't, it would be on
- 25:21a ruling on less than complete record, because, based on
- 25:24this declaration, it is necessary that defendant discloses all communications
- 25:28with him and possibly others. Miss Roberts doesn't have those communications.
- 25:33The court doesn't have those communications. Therefore, defendant is asking
- 25:37for some rejudgment on an incomplete record. The court should
- 25:41also not consider the Bardon declaration because it will be
- 25:45inadmissible as unduly prejudicial. It is a self serving declaration
- 25:50by a non deposed witness made without turning over the
- 25:53documents that are relevant to the declaration. C e g.
- 25:57Rubins versus Mason, three eighty seven Ft three D one
- 26:01eight three one eighty five, Second Circuit, two thousand and four.
- 26:05We find that the District Court predicated its grant of
- 26:08some rejudgment as to liability on an Avid David from
- 26:12the arbitrator who presided over the underlying arbitration. The probative
- 26:16value of which was substantially outweighed by the danger of
- 26:20unfair prejudice. The Avid David therefore should not have been admitted.
- 26:25We therefore vacate the grant of some rejudgment to the
- 26:27defendant on liability and remand to the District Court b defendant.
- 26:33Some rejudgment arguments require factual findings regarding Barton's intent, thereby
- 26:38precluding some rejudgment. Even were the Court to consider this
- 26:42declaration and representations therein which it should not. The declaration
- 26:47itself demonstrates that the Court would have to make factual
- 26:50findings as to what mister Barton's intent really was. Finding
- 26:54about intent are appropriate at the summary judgment stage, as
- 26:58this Court and the Second Circuit Court have recognized. This
- 27:02Court has explained, if it is necessary to resolve inferences
- 27:06regarding intent, summary judgment is not appropriate. Sweet Jay citing
- 27:11Patrick versus le Fay seven forty five F Dot two
- 27:15D one fifty three one fifty nine, Second Circuit nineteen
- 27:19eighty four, Freedman versus Meyers four eighty two F Dot
- 27:22two D four thirty five four to thirty nine, Second Circuit,
- 27:26nineteen seventy three. See there are factual disputes regarding Bardon's declaration. Finally,
- 27:33there are material disputes over the statements in the Bardon
- 27:36declaration because they are directly refuted by record evidence. For example,
- 27:41the Instant motion and the Bardon declaration describe the press
- 27:44release merely as a document expressing his mister Bardon's opinion
- 27:49in the form of a legal argument, as a lawyer
- 27:51would be as opposed to a press release for dissemination
- 27:55by the media to the public. Record evidence refutes this claim.
- 27:59As one, the press release was sent to journalist, to
- 28:02media publishers or in house counsel. Two, the press release
- 28:07instructed the journalists to publish the defamatory statement. Please find
- 28:11attached a quotable statement on behalf of Miss Maxwell. Three.
- 28:15It was issued by a publicist on defendant's behalf and
- 28:19not an attorney, without any reference to attorneys or laws. Indeed,
- 28:23Gau testified that Barton was unavailable to approve the statement,
- 28:27and for Gau testified that he issued the statement only
- 28:31after he understood defendant to have signed off on it.
- 28:34In understanding he formed based on defendants positive command to him,
- 28:39this is the agreed statement question. When you sent that
- 28:41email were you acting pursuing to Miss Maxwell's retention of
- 28:45your services? Answer? Yes, I was. Question when you say
- 28:49a greed statement, can you tell me more about what
- 28:51you mean? Who agreed to the statement? Answer? I need
- 28:55to give you some context if I may, about that statement.
- 28:58So this is on New Year's Day in France. So
- 29:01the email time here is twenty one forty six in
- 29:04French time and twenty two forty six. And I was
- 29:07getting up early the next morning to drive my family
- 29:10back to the south of France to England, which is
- 29:12a fourteen hour journey door to door. So on the
- 29:15morning of the second of January, bearing in mind that
- 29:18Miss Maxwell I think was in New York, then she
- 29:21was five hours behind, so there was quite a lot
- 29:23of sort of time difference between the various countries here,
- 29:27I sent her an email, I believe, saying parsing this,
- 29:30forwarding this email to her saying how do you wish
- 29:33to proceed? And I was on the telephone. I had
- 29:36two telephones in the car. I received an excess thirty
- 29:39phone calls from various media outlets on the second of January,
- 29:43all asking for information about how Miss Maxwell was looking
- 29:46to respond to the latest court filings which were filed
- 29:49on the thirtieth of December, as I understand, and by
- 29:53clothes towards close of play on the second I received
- 29:56an email forwarded by Miss Maxwell containing a draft statement
- 30:00which my understanding was the majority of which had been
- 30:03drafted by mister Bardon, with a header along the lines
- 30:06of this is the agreed on statement at close of
- 30:10play on the second So I was I had gone
- 30:13under the channel tunnel and I was sitting on the
- 30:15other side, and that email, which my understanding was that
- 30:19it had been signed off on by the client effectively,
- 30:22was then sent out to a number of media, including
- 30:25mister Ball and various other UK newspapers. Question, mister Gal,
- 30:29when you say end of play and close of play,
- 30:32are you referring to sending the email that is exhibit
- 30:34to answer? Yes, I am question. The subject line does
- 30:39have FW, which to me indicates it's a forward. Do
- 30:42you know where the rest of the email chain is? Answer?
- 30:45My understanding of this is it was a holiday in
- 30:48the UK, but mister Barden was not necessarily accessible at
- 30:52some point in time, so this had been sent to
- 30:54him originally by Miss Maxwell, and because he was unavailable,
- 30:58she forwarded it to me for immediate acts. I therefore responded, Okay, Glain,
- 31:02I'll go with this. It is my understanding that this
- 31:05is the agreed statement. Because the subject of the second
- 31:08one is urgent. This is the statement, so I take
- 31:11that as an instruction to send it out as a
- 31:14positive command, this is the statement. Accordingly, record evidence shows
- 31:18that the press release was intended as press release and
- 31:21not as a legal argument. Record evidence also establishes that
- 31:25defendants circulated the press release to Bardon and Gal and
- 31:28then gave a positive command to Gou to publish it. Additionally,
- 31:32there is no indica that the press release is a
- 31:35legal opinion. To the contrary, it was issued by and
- 31:38specifically attributed to, a woman who has personal knowledge of
- 31:42whether Miss roberts claims of sexual abuse are true, and
- 31:46she states that Miss Roberts is a liar. At the
- 31:49very least, all of these factual issues must be considered
- 31:52by a jury. Another example is that defendant states that
- 31:56Gal served only as mister Barden's conduit to the media,
- 32:00and mister Barden was directing the January tewod through fifteenth
- 32:03statement to a discrete number of media representatives. Barden wasn't
- 32:07directing anything. He wasn't even in the loop when defendant
- 32:10decided to publish the statement, and the documents prove it. Indeed,
- 32:14the press release itself states that it is on behalf
- 32:17of Miss Maxwell, not Barden. It was the defendant who
- 32:20gave the positive command to gou to publish it. These
- 32:24are just a couple of examples among many of the
- 32:26purported facts asserted Indefendant's motion and Barden's declaration that are
- 32:31directly refuted by facts in the record. Finally, neither the
- 32:35media nor the general public could have known that the
- 32:38statement should be attributed to Barton. His name was nowhere
- 32:42in it. Nor is there any reference to Council. Defendant's
- 32:46argument that the context is the media knowing Bardon's intent
- 32:49or involvement is unsupported by the record. The significant factual
- 32:53disputes about Barden alone prevent some rejudgment. All right, folks,
- 32:57we're going to wrap up right there, and then in
- 32:59the next day episode we'll pick up where we left off.
- 33:03All of the information that goes with this episode can
- 33:05be found in the description box. What's up, everyone, and
- 33:09welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. We're going to pick
- 33:14up where we left off with Virginia Roberts response to
- 33:19Gallaine Maxwell's attempt to get a summary judgment. See Defendant's
- 33:25defamatory statement was not opinion as a matter of law,
- 33:29as this Court previously held correctly, Defendant stating that Miss
- 33:32Roberts's claims of sexual assault or lies is not an
- 33:35expression of opinion. First, statements that Robert's claims against defendant
- 33:40are untrue have been shown to be untrue, and our
- 33:44obvious lies have a specific and readily understood factual, meaning
- 33:48that Roberts is not telling the truth about her history
- 33:51of sexual abuse and the defendant's role, and that some
- 33:54verifiable investigation has occurred and come to a definitive conclusion
- 33:59proving the fact. Second, these statements, as they themselves allege,
- 34:04are capable of being proven true or false, and therefore
- 34:07constitute actionable fact and not opinion. Third, in their full context,
- 34:12while defendant statements have the effect of generally denying plaintiff's story,
- 34:17they also clearly constitute fact to the reader. Roberts versus Maxwell,
- 34:21one sixty five ft su Pp. Three d one forty seven,
- 34:26one fifty two SDNY twenty sixteen. The Court further explained,
- 34:32Plaintiff cannot be making claims shown to be untrue that
- 34:36our obvious lies without being a liar. Furthermore, to suggest
- 34:39individual is not telling the truth about her history of
- 34:43having been sexually assaulted as a minor constitutes more than
- 34:46a general denial. It alleges something deeply disturbing about the
- 34:50character of an individual willing to be publicly dishonest about
- 34:54such reprehensible crimes. Defendant statements clearly imply that the denial
- 35:00are based on facts separate and contradictory to those that
- 35:04plaintiff has alleged. Defendant argues that somehow the context of
- 35:08the entire statement tested against the understanding of the average reader,
- 35:12should be the press release as a whole, being read
- 35:15only by journalists. This is an unreasonable construct because the
- 35:20ultimate audience for a press release is the public. Indeed,
- 35:23the purpose of a press release is to reach readers. Unsurprisingly,
- 35:27Defendant cites no case that holds that journalists might somehow
- 35:31believe that statements of fact are opinion while others do not.
- 35:36This Court has previously covered this ground when it clearly
- 35:39stated sexual assault of a minor is a clear cut issue.
- 35:43Either transgression occurred or it did not. Either A. Maxwell
- 35:47was involved or she was not. The issue is not
- 35:50a matter of opinion, and there cannot be differing understandings
- 35:53of the same facts that justify diametrically opposed opinion as
- 35:58to whether defendant was involved in plaintiff's abuse as plaintiff
- 36:02has claimed. Each plaintiff is telling the truth about her
- 36:05story and defendant's involvement, or the defendant is telling the
- 36:08truth and she was not involved in the trafficking and
- 36:11ultimate abuse of the plaintiff Roberts verse Maxwell, one six
- 36:16five f Dot supp At one fifty two SDNY, twenty sixteen.
- 36:22The same conclusion applies now. At the motion to this
- 36:25Miss stage, defendant had not yet produced the statement she
- 36:29issued to the press. The statement is now in evidence,
- 36:32so there is no ambiguity as to what defendant released
- 36:35to the press. The absurdity of defendant characterizing his statement
- 36:40calling Miss Roberts a liar as mere opinion is revealed
- 36:43by the fact that the defendant was the one who
- 36:45was sexually trafficking and otherwise abusing Miss Roberts. No reasonable
- 36:50person in any context would construe that as defendant's mere
- 36:54opinion on the subject. Since defendant knew she was abusing
- 36:57Miss Roberts. And indeed, this our argument is contradicted by
- 37:01the defendant's own deposition testimony question, do you believe that
- 37:06Jeffrey Epstein sexually abused minors? Answer? I can only testify
- 37:11to what I know. I know that Virginia is a liar,
- 37:14and I know what she testified is a lie. So
- 37:17I can only testify to what I know to be falsehoods,
- 37:20and half those falsehoods are enormous, And so I can
- 37:23only categorically deny everything she has said. And that is
- 37:27the only thing that I can talk about, because I
- 37:29have no knowledge of anything else. See mccauleay declaration at
- 37:34Exhibit eleven, Maxwell Deposition, April seventeenth, twenty sixteen. Defendant slightly
- 37:40contends in her motion that mister Bardon's arguments in the
- 37:43press release constitute pure opinion, attempting to disclaim any involvement
- 37:49in making the defamatory statement. However, it is not mister
- 37:53Bardon's statement nor his opinion that is that issue here.
- 37:56At issue here is defendant statement a statement a t
- 38:00bributable to her that she approved, whose publication she commanded,
- 38:05and for which he hired a public relations representative to
- 38:08disseminate to at least thirty journalists for publication. While mister
- 38:12Barton could possibly have had his own opinion as to
- 38:15whether or not his client abused Miss Roberts, defendant cannot
- 38:19express an opinion on a binary yes or no subject
- 38:22where she knows the truth, As this court previously articulated
- 38:27statements that Robert's claims against defendant are untrue have been
- 38:31shown to be untrue, and our obvious lies have a
- 38:33specific and readily understood factual meaning. Roberts versus Maxwell, one
- 38:38sixty five f Dot supp Dot three d at one
- 38:42fifty two. Again, at the very least, the jury must
- 38:46pass on such issues. D the pre litigation privilege does
- 38:51not apply to defendant's press release. One defendant fails to
- 38:55make a showing that the pre litigation privilege applies. Defendants
- 38:59next argument seeks refuge in their pre litigation privilege. If
- 39:03we understand the argument correctly, defendant seems to be saying
- 39:07that because she was contemplating an unspecified and never filed
- 39:11lawsuit involving the British press, she somehow had a green
- 39:15light to make whatever defamatory statement she wanted about Miss Roberts.
- 39:19To prove such a remarkably claimed, defendant relies on case
- 39:23law involving such mundane topics as cease and desist letters
- 39:27sent to opposing parties and the like. Obviously, such arguments
- 39:32have no application to the press release that defendants sent
- 39:35out worldwide attacking Miss roberts veracity. The problems with the
- 39:39defendant's argument are legion for starters. There is no record evidence,
- 39:44not even defendant's own testimony, suggesting that she was contemplating
- 39:48litigation against Miss Roberts, or that her press release was
- 39:51related to contemplated litigation against Miss Roberts. Tellingly, the only
- 39:56evidence defendant sites of any alleged contemplating litigation is the
- 40:01self serving post talk partial waiver of attorney client privilege
- 40:05found in the Barden Declaration. As discussed above, the declaration
- 40:09fails to establish that there was good faith anticipated in
- 40:13litigation between her and Miss Roberts, particularly when evidence in
- 40:17the record contradicts such assertions. At the very least, it
- 40:21is a matter of fact for the jury to decide.
- 40:24In another case in which a defendant attempted to claim
- 40:27pre litigation privilege applied to statements made to the press.
- 40:30This court denied some rejudgment and held to prevail on
- 40:34a qualified privileged defense. Defendant must show that his claim
- 40:37of privilege does not raise triable issues of fact that
- 40:41would defeat it. Block versus First Blood Associates six ninety
- 40:45one f. Dot su Pp. Six point eighty five, six
- 40:49ninety nine and seven hundred Sweet Jay sdn Y nineteen
- 40:52eighty eight, denying some rejudgment on the pre litigation qualification
- 40:57privilege affirmative defense because there was a you an issue
- 41:00as to malice an appropriate purpose. Defendant's claim here likewise fails.
- 41:06First defendant's testimony makes no mention of any contemplated lawsuit,
- 41:10much less any contemplated lawsuit against Miss Roberts. Second defendant
- 41:15has offered no witnesses who will testify that she intended
- 41:19to bring any lawsuit. Third, she did not, in fact
- 41:22bring any such lawsuit. The only evidence is a post
- 41:25talk declaration written by her attorney. Finally, it must be remembered,
- 41:30as explained that length above, the defendant had sexually trafficked
- 41:34defendant and was attempting to continue to conceal her criminal acts.
- 41:39Whether her statements had an appropriate purpose, block six ninety one,
- 41:42f Dot supp Dot at six ninety nine through seven hundred,
- 41:47Sweet Jay, or or rather efforts by a criminal organization
- 41:50to silence its victims is obviously contested. Accordingly, obvious issues
- 41:56of fact exist as to whether or not defendant contemplated
- 42:01distorting reality. Defendant further argues statements pertinent to a good
- 42:05faith anticipated litigation made by attorneys or their agents under
- 42:10their direction before the commencement of litigation or privileged MSJA
- 42:14at thirty three, the record evidence shows that defendant attorneys
- 42:18did not make the defamatory statement. Further, defendant's attorneys agents
- 42:22did not make the defamatory statement. The defendant did, and
- 42:26there was no statement made by anyone before the commencement
- 42:29of litigation, because litigation never commenced. Accordingly, the case defendant
- 42:35sites where attorneys are making statements or where clients are
- 42:38making statements to their attorneys regarding judicial proceedings, including malpractice,
- 42:44are wholly in opposite, as detailed below. Similarly, in Black
- 42:48versus Green Harbor Homeowners Association Incorporated nineteen A dot d
- 42:53dot three D nine sixty two nine sixty three, seven
- 42:56ninety eight and do Y dot s dot two d
- 42:59seven fifty three, seven fifty four, and two thousand and
- 43:03five cited by defendant, the court held a privilege applied
- 43:07to a letter sent by a Homeowner's Association board of
- 43:10directors to the association's members informing them of the status
- 43:14of litigation to which the association was a party, and
- 43:17to the association's letter to the state Attorney General, sent
- 43:21to discharge its duties to the association. In this case,
- 43:24litigation was actually pending, the communication was sent by a
- 43:28party to that litigation as part of its duties, and
- 43:31the communication itself concerned the litigation. The defendant's press release
- 43:36fits none of those descriptions. Unsurprisingly, Defendant cites no case
- 43:42in which a court has held that this or any
- 43:44qualified privilege extends to internationally disseminated press releases defaming a
- 43:49non party to the purported anticipated litigation, regardless of whether
- 43:54or not Barden had a hand in drafting the statement.
- 43:57Another disputed issue of fact. The jury defendant issued the statement,
- 44:02instructed that it be published, and the statement she issued
- 44:05was attributed to her and not her attorney or as agents. Accordingly,
- 44:10all the case law defendant sites about attorney making a
- 44:13statement or a client making a statement to their attorney
- 44:16or a malpractice carrier is in opposite two defending his
- 44:22foreclothes from using the pre litigation privilege because she acted
- 44:25with malice. In any event, because defendant acted with malice,
- 44:29she cannot avail herself of the pre litigation privilege. As
- 44:33this Court has explained denying Defendant's motion to dismiss, there
- 44:36is no qualified privilege under New York law when such
- 44:40statements are spoken with malice, knowledge of their falsity, or
- 44:44a reckless disregard for the truth. Roberts versus Maxwell, one
- 44:48sixty five F. Supp Dot three d at one fifty five.
- 44:52Citing Block six ninety one F Dot supp Dot at
- 44:57six ninety nine, Sweet j sdn Y nineteen eight, there
- 45:01is ample record evidence that defendant acted with malice in
- 45:04issuing the press release, thereby making the litigation privilege inapplicable
- 45:09see Block six ninety one FT supp At seven hundred. Here,
- 45:14sufficient evidence has been adduced to support the inference that
- 45:18defendant acted with malice and may not therefore claim a
- 45:21qualified privilege under New York law. A genuine issue as
- 45:26to malice an appropriate purpose has properly been raised, and
- 45:30is sufficient to preclude some rejudgment. For example, Miss Schuberg
- 45:34testified that defendant recruited her for sex with Epstein, thus
- 45:38corroborating Miss roberts own account of defendant's involvement in abusing
- 45:42her with Epstein. For another example, Jeffrey Epstein's pilot testified
- 45:47that defendant flew with Miss Roberts on at least twenty
- 45:51three flights, thus corroborating Miss roberts claims against the defendant.
- 45:55Ce mccaulay's declaration at Exhibit fifteen Robert's deposition at thirty
- 46:01four three through ten. For another example, Tony Figueroa testified
- 46:05that defendant asked him for assistance in recruiting girls for Epstein,
- 46:10more testimony that corroborates Miss Roberts's claims against the defendant.
- 46:14And again, just to interject, this is why we went
- 46:17through that Virginia Roberts deposition. All of these court documents
- 46:21dove tell into each other, and when you put them
- 46:23all together, you begin to see the true scope of
- 46:26what Jeffrey Epstein was up to. Defendant statements that Miss
- 46:30Roberts was lying, and her claims of sexual abuse where
- 46:33obvious lies were not pertinent to a good faith anticipated litigation,
- 46:37but instead they were made for inappropriate purpose, i e.
- 46:41To bully, harass, intimidate, and ultimately silence Miss Roberts. As
- 46:45the record of evidence shows, defendant knew the statements were
- 46:48false because defendant engaged in and facilitated the sexual abuse
- 46:53of this minor child. Therefore, they were made for the
- 46:56inappropriate purpose of bullying, harassment, and intimidation. See Front versus Khalil,
- 47:02twenty four and Y Dot three d Dot seven thirteen
- 47:05seven twenty twenty fifteen. Simply put, defendant sexually trafficked Miss
- 47:10Roberts and then tried to silence Miss Roberts to keep
- 47:13her crime secret, circumstances that prevent her from using privileges
- 47:18designed to shield legitimate legal disputes from court interference. New
- 47:22York case law fully confirms that pre litigation qualified privileges
- 47:27do not apply to this case. Historically, statements made in
- 47:31the course of litigation were entitled to privilege from defamation's claims,
- 47:35so that those discharging a public function may speak freely
- 47:38to zealously represent their clients without fear of reprisal or
- 47:43financial hazard. Court of Appeals case somewhat extended this privilege
- 47:47by holding that statements made by attorneys prior to the
- 47:51commencement of the litigation are protected by a qualified privilege
- 47:55if those statements are pertinent to a good faith anticipation
- 47:58litigation id d At seven eighteen. Although it is well
- 48:02settled that statements made in the court of litigation are
- 48:05entitled to absolute privilege, the Court is not directly addressed
- 48:08whether statements made by an attorney on behalf of his
- 48:12or her client in connection with prospective litigation are privileged.
- 48:16To advance the goals of encouraging communication prior to the
- 48:19commencement of litigation, we hold that statements made prior to
- 48:23the commencement of an anticipated litigation are privileged, and that
- 48:27the privilege is lost when a defendant proofs that statements
- 48:30were not pertinent to a good faith anticipation litigation. The
- 48:34Court of Appeals reason for allowing this qualified privilege could
- 48:38not be more clearer. When litigation is anticipated, attorneys and
- 48:42parties should be free to communicate. In order to reduce
- 48:45or avoid the need to actually commence litigation. Attorneys often
- 48:50send cease and desist letters to avoid litigation. Applying privilege
- 48:54to such preliminary communication encourages potential defendants to negotiate with
- 48:58potential plaintiffs in order to prevent costly and time consuming
- 49:03judicial intervention idea at seven, nineteen and twenty. Under this rationale,
- 49:08the Khalil Court found that an attorney letters to the
- 49:10potential defendant were privileged because they were sent in an
- 49:14attempt to avoid litigation by requesting, among other things, that
- 49:18Khalil returned the alleged stolen propriety information and cease and
- 49:22desist in his use of that information. Here, quite unlike Khalil,
- 49:27the defendant statements were one made by a non attorney
- 49:30defendant through GAO two concerning a non party to an
- 49:34alleged anticipated litigation, three knowingly false statements, and four contained
- 49:39in a press release directed at and disseminated to the
- 49:42public at large. The defendant statements cannot be considered pertinent
- 49:46to a good faith anticipated litigation, such that the qualified
- 49:50privilege should apply. Finally, though it strains credulity to even
- 49:55entertain the prospect, if defendant could make even colorable showings
- 49:59on these basic g issues, it would remain an issue
- 50:01effact for the jury to determine whether or not defendants
- 50:05press release calling Miss Roberts sex abuse claims obvious lies.
- 50:09Was any type of cease and desist statement or a
- 50:11statement that acted to reduce or avoid or resolve any
- 50:15anticipated litigation? Summary judgment is obviously inappropriate here as well.
- 50:21All right, folks, we're going to wrap up right there,
- 50:23and in the next episode we'll pick up where we
- 50:25left off. All of the information that goes with this
- 50:28episode can be found in the description box.