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- 0:05Speaker 1: Welcome into the Jaguars Broadcast We Can Review podcast presented
- 0:09Speaker 1: by t I A A Bank JP Shadrick with the
- 0:11Speaker 1: best of the week from Jaguars Radio, Jaguars dot Com
- 0:15Speaker 1: and all our streaming platforms Jags, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube.
- 0:20Speaker 1: Let's begin with the reaction of the franchise tag applied
- 0:23Speaker 1: to left tackle Cam Robinson. It's a sixteen point six
- 0:26Speaker 1: million dollar salary and two if he signs the tender,
- 0:29Speaker 1: and Robinson and the Jaguars have until July fifteen to
- 0:32Speaker 1: work on a long term deal. If they don't get
- 0:35Speaker 1: one done, he plays on that number in twenty two.
- 0:38Speaker 1: NFL Network analyst Bucky Brooks and Jaguars dot Com senior
- 0:42Speaker 1: writer John Osier on the Huddle Up Podcast Wednesday on
- 0:45Speaker 1: the Free I Heart Radio app securing Cam Robinson on
- 0:49Speaker 1: the tag and maybe a long term deal. It enables
- 0:52Speaker 1: you to kind of free up yourself from having to
- 0:55Speaker 1: commit to take an offensive tackle at the top of
- 0:57Speaker 1: the board. Um, you still have the opport need to
- 1:00Speaker 1: put walk a little in the lineup somewhere, and then
- 1:03Speaker 1: maybe you turn your efforts towards getting the pass rusher
- 1:06Speaker 1: or another position at the top of the board. Okay,
- 1:08Speaker 1: I think we talked about it last week, but um,
- 1:11Speaker 1: in trying to sort of predict what they would do,
- 1:14Speaker 1: I kept going back to this, and we may have
- 1:16Speaker 1: talked about it. It's what may have second my mind
- 1:19Speaker 1: the idea that from a GMS perspective, when you're looking
- 1:22Speaker 1: at your roster, you've only got X amount of players
- 1:25Speaker 1: that you feel like our front line guys. Had you
- 1:29Speaker 1: let Cam go, you're taking one drop out of that bucket,
- 1:33Speaker 1: if you will, and you've got to fill it back
- 1:36Speaker 1: up with another drop, which would probably been in the draft. Well,
- 1:39Speaker 1: the idea of of keeping Cam is you keep that
- 1:42Speaker 1: in the bucket and then add one more into the bucket. Uh,
- 1:46Speaker 1: as the former scout, That's how personnel people think, right, Yeah,
- 1:51Speaker 1: I mean what you're trying to do is you're trying
- 1:53Speaker 1: to look at it in team building. You're trying not
- 1:55Speaker 1: to do it in an isolated fashion. So what you
- 1:59Speaker 1: want to do is you away your options. If I
- 2:02Speaker 1: have this player and that player, do I like that?
- 2:06Speaker 1: Uh option better than okay, I can take this draft
- 2:09Speaker 1: pick and another player. So it's almost like, um, what's
- 2:12Speaker 1: the plan? Crisis? Right? Showcase show downtnity, to which one
- 2:17Speaker 1: that you want at the end, um, you get you
- 2:19Speaker 1: get to figure out which one that you wanted in
- 2:21Speaker 1: And so that's what you're doing in the office is
- 2:23Speaker 1: you're trying to figure out, Okay, what gives us the
- 2:25Speaker 1: best opportunity to hit all the needs and all of
- 2:28Speaker 1: the things that we must address for the best personnel.
- 2:32Speaker 1: And obviously after doing the evaluation, Cam Robinson was in
- 2:37Speaker 1: that picture. Because if you're Doug Peterson and you're trying
- 2:41Speaker 1: to figure out what's the best way for us to
- 2:43Speaker 1: get this rolling. Do I want to break in a
- 2:44Speaker 1: newbie at left tackle? Do I want to go with
- 2:46Speaker 1: someone who may have some flaws, but at least I
- 2:49Speaker 1: know what those are, and we feel confident enough that
- 2:52Speaker 1: maybe we can mask some of those efficiencies while getting
- 2:55Speaker 1: the rest of the pieces of the puzzle right. Just
- 2:57Speaker 1: remember John to have your pet spade or newter to
- 2:59Speaker 1: help control the pep. That's right, That's right, that's right. Um.
- 3:04Speaker 1: So now, Bucky, what you know I said last week
- 3:07Speaker 1: and I said, ah, off season, this is the most
- 3:12Speaker 1: uh intriguing puzzle that I can remember on the Jaguars
- 3:15Speaker 1: offensive line. And maybe it's a reflection of the way
- 3:17Speaker 1: the league's going in the sense that offensive lineman can
- 3:20Speaker 1: play more positions. Now, you know, you see more guys
- 3:23Speaker 1: who can play left hand right tackle. But I'm not
- 3:26Speaker 1: sure what they're gonna do. I mean, I'm assuming Walker
- 3:28Speaker 1: little to the right. Does that mean Jowan Taylor swing
- 3:32Speaker 1: doesn't mean he can play inside? Who are you trying
- 3:36Speaker 1: to bring back? I'm assuming Ben Bart is a starter
- 3:38Speaker 1: in Ajkins not. But I still don't know how this
- 3:41Speaker 1: offensive line is gonna look even with this move. Was
- 3:43Speaker 1: not a left tackle though, right to swing right? Well, um,
- 3:49Speaker 1: you know, like so so he used the thing one
- 3:52Speaker 1: the right tackle on the left tackle. Now they're more
- 3:55Speaker 1: common than uncommon in terms of like being dissimilar in
- 3:59Speaker 1: terms of job description and the kind of players that
- 4:01Speaker 1: you want there. Now, you're right tackle needs to be
- 4:03Speaker 1: just as nimble as your left tackle because teams are
- 4:06Speaker 1: putting the premier pass rusher at left defense event against
- 4:09Speaker 1: the right tackle. So I think we walk a little
- 4:12Speaker 1: he can go there. I think you want can kind
- 4:14Speaker 1: of kick inside. You have to make a decision in
- 4:17Speaker 1: the determination what's the best five that you can put
- 4:21Speaker 1: on the field. And with a new offensive line coach
- 4:24Speaker 1: and a new offensive philosophy, It'll be interesting to see
- 4:27Speaker 1: how they hold their best five in in in top regard.
- 4:32Speaker 1: And let's be honest, how do they view walk a
- 4:35Speaker 1: little in comparison to the other guys that are in
- 4:37Speaker 1: this draft class at the top. If they view him
- 4:40Speaker 1: as better than maybe that might be the impetus between
- 4:44Speaker 1: what behind why they may bypass an opportunity to take
- 4:47Speaker 1: a guy at number one. A lot of it is
- 4:49Speaker 1: due to the self evaluation and how you really evaluate
- 4:52Speaker 1: your team compared to what could be available on free
- 4:55Speaker 1: agency and in the draft. Jaguars analyst Jeff Logerman joined
- 4:58Speaker 1: me on Jaguars Happy Hour Radio Thursday afternoon on Tin
- 5:02Speaker 1: Tin x L for more Cam Robinson discussion. If I'm
- 5:05Speaker 1: Cam Robinson, I'm probably just gonna go ahead and sign
- 5:08Speaker 1: it because I think it's gonna end up being just like,
- 5:11Speaker 1: very similar to last year. It's gonna be a one
- 5:13Speaker 1: year deal, and I think it was the right thing
- 5:14Speaker 1: to do. You think so, First of all, Cam Robinson
- 5:18Speaker 1: is a is a solid, good football player, and I
- 5:22Speaker 1: don't want anybody to have the impression because he got
- 5:24Speaker 1: franchise that he's one of the best left tackles in football.
- 5:27Speaker 1: That's that's not what he is. He's a good he's
- 5:30Speaker 1: a good football player, which means that he's the middle
- 5:33Speaker 1: of the pack that you know to sometimes maybe you
- 5:35Speaker 1: know backward part of the middle part of the pack.
- 5:38Speaker 1: But he's a he's a starter. He's a starter, and
- 5:41Speaker 1: he's a starting caliber left tackle in this league. And
- 5:45Speaker 1: those players are not cheap, and so you want to
- 5:49Speaker 1: and when when you're a football team that hasn't won
- 5:51Speaker 1: a lot of games in the last decade, you want
- 5:54Speaker 1: to keep all the best players that you possibly can
- 5:57Speaker 1: so that you're not trying to fill holes. I mean,
- 6:00Speaker 1: you you have enough halls to fill as it is already.
- 6:02Speaker 1: That's why your record has been the worst than the
- 6:05Speaker 1: National Football League two years in a row. You've got
- 6:08Speaker 1: to concentrate on getting better. And the way that you
- 6:11Speaker 1: get better is that you get better players. And and
- 6:14Speaker 1: putting the tag on Cam Robinson is the right thing
- 6:17Speaker 1: to do. Does it change any of your plan going
- 6:22Speaker 1: forward in free agency and in the draft? I think
- 6:27Speaker 1: free agency it might change a little bit of what
- 6:30Speaker 1: you would do because if you didn't tag him, you
- 6:31Speaker 1: might end up looking at another option who uh goes
- 6:35Speaker 1: by the last name of Armstead. Okay, to maybe play
- 6:38Speaker 1: your left tackle position. It might cost you a little
- 6:40Speaker 1: bit more money, more than more than sixteen point six huh.
- 6:44Speaker 1: But from the standpoint of changing what you would do
- 6:47Speaker 1: for the draft, I don't think it changes anything. Nothing, nothing.
- 6:52Speaker 1: So they could still go with tackle at number one overall,
- 6:54Speaker 1: absolutely and then let the new guy play somewhere else
- 6:58Speaker 1: and then figure it out if Jonathan Ogden who is
- 7:03Speaker 1: And you go back to this story which the Cleveland
- 7:07Speaker 1: brown slash Baltimore Ravens, because that was the Tony Jones
- 7:11Speaker 1: was the starting left tackle for the Cleveland Browns before
- 7:14Speaker 1: the organization made the move to Baltimore. Tony Jones was
- 7:17Speaker 1: one of the better left tackles in football, and so
- 7:20Speaker 1: they drafted Jonathan Ogden with Tony Jones still at the
- 7:23Speaker 1: left tackle position. They allowed Tony Jones to continue to
- 7:27Speaker 1: play left tackle. Ogden played left guard, which was funny
- 7:31Speaker 1: is all get out, watching a six eighth man get
- 7:33Speaker 1: into a guards you know, stand. But he was really
- 7:36Speaker 1: good even at guard. And then when Tony Jones moved on,
- 7:40Speaker 1: then you had Jonathan Ogden to take over, and of
- 7:42Speaker 1: course he had a Hall of Fame career. So can
- 7:45Speaker 1: you play a draft pick at guard. Absolutely, Can you
- 7:51Speaker 1: play maybe somebody else at guard that you already have
- 7:54Speaker 1: on your roster, maybe the guy that you drafted pretty
- 7:57Speaker 1: high last year. Absolutely. I think everything is on the table.
- 8:01Speaker 1: And I've said this before, I'll say it again, and
- 8:04Speaker 1: it's just my own personal belief. It doesn't come from
- 8:07Speaker 1: anywhere inside the football brains of this organization. But I
- 8:12Speaker 1: am a believer that Cam Robinson can be one of
- 8:14Speaker 1: the best right tackles in football. And I think he's
- 8:17Speaker 1: built to play right tackle. And if you ended up
- 8:20Speaker 1: drafting a left tackle, or you had Walker Little play
- 8:23Speaker 1: left tackle, or you had the draft pick play left tackle,
- 8:27Speaker 1: Walker Little plane guard, I think that that would all
- 8:29Speaker 1: be good for this football team. The better offensive line
- 8:33Speaker 1: that you can put in front of Trevor Lawrence, the
- 8:36Speaker 1: better your football team is going to be. And on
- 8:38Speaker 1: the Jaguars Reporters podcast Monday, before the official word came down,
- 8:42Speaker 1: Ashland Sullivan, Shadosja, Brian Sexton and I on the options
- 8:46Speaker 1: with the tag if they want to resign Cam, I'd
- 8:49Speaker 1: resigned Cam. I try to find it a way to
- 8:51Speaker 1: make it work rather than put the tag on him
- 8:53Speaker 1: and have him make almost seventeen million dollars um. I
- 8:57Speaker 1: wouldn't do it right because you've got offensive tackles at
- 9:00Speaker 1: the top of the first round and there are some
- 9:02Speaker 1: guys that people like at the top of the second round.
- 9:05Speaker 1: So if you wanted to go pass rusher and then
- 9:06Speaker 1: offensive tackle, you could do that. It makes sense to
- 9:09Speaker 1: me to get younger and less expensive as opposed to
- 9:12Speaker 1: stick with Cam, who you know what he is, but
- 9:15Speaker 1: it's my own person believe he's at he's at where
- 9:17Speaker 1: he's at, that that's the kind of player is gonna
- 9:19Speaker 1: be the rest of his career. I don't think that's
- 9:20Speaker 1: worth elite money. You know. The argument that I see
- 9:25Speaker 1: for keeping Cam was Trent Balky and Doug Peterson both
- 9:30Speaker 1: talks so much last week about we've got to keep
- 9:32Speaker 1: our own. I don't get the idea that they're keeping
- 9:35Speaker 1: DJ Chark and I could be wrong on that, but
- 9:38Speaker 1: at some point there's not a surplus. If you know this,
- 9:42Speaker 1: bright or not, there's not a surplus of good players
- 9:44Speaker 1: on this roster right now if they need more. I've
- 9:46Speaker 1: noticed that. So the the the theory, if you if
- 9:50Speaker 1: you're playing football mad scientists, is to keep a good
- 9:54Speaker 1: player in Cam Robinson and add another good player in
- 9:57Speaker 1: the draft rather than letting Cam Robinson go and bringing
- 10:00Speaker 1: good player in. That's two good players compared to one.
- 10:03Speaker 1: Two is more. You understand that you also have three
- 10:05Speaker 1: offensive tackles on this right, just thin you can play with,
- 10:08Speaker 1: which not every team does. And it's what gives you
- 10:12Speaker 1: the flexibility to do that keep good players. Yes, don't
- 10:15Speaker 1: overpay good players. And I may be the only person
- 10:18Speaker 1: that thinks this, but I think if you pay him
- 10:20Speaker 1: elite money, you're overpaying. And in free agency, you're gonna
- 10:23Speaker 1: overpay when you go out and grab one. But you're
- 10:25Speaker 1: not gonna go and sign a Terran Armstead from New Orleans.
- 10:27Speaker 1: You're gonna draft one Evan Neil or a Quantu from
- 10:30Speaker 1: North Carolina State. So that's just on my own personal
- 10:33Speaker 1: belief or maybe maybe most people agree they're going to
- 10:36Speaker 1: go the way you're talking about, but but it just
- 10:38Speaker 1: depends on what they honestly think. But you could get
- 10:41Speaker 1: a good pass rusher at the top of the first
- 10:43Speaker 1: round and a good offensive tackle at the top of
- 10:45Speaker 1: the second, or depending on what you wanted a pass rusher,
- 10:48Speaker 1: you could get an elite tackle at the top of
- 10:50Speaker 1: the first round and a good pass rusher at the
- 10:52Speaker 1: top of the second right. I mean, it just depends
- 10:55Speaker 1: on what you want, and I don't know what they want.
- 10:56Speaker 1: You still need some receivers, thought, yes you do. And
- 10:59Speaker 1: and DJ char it's it's hard because he's such a
- 11:01Speaker 1: good a good person in this building. But to franchise
- 11:04Speaker 1: tag DJ makes absolutely zero since nineteen million dollars. That's
- 11:07Speaker 1: not the type of receiver he is right now, And
- 11:09Speaker 1: I get the last thing you want is to let
- 11:12Speaker 1: him leave the building and him become a superstar, because
- 11:15Speaker 1: it is a risk. They just they haven't seen it.
- 11:16Speaker 1: And so much what have you done for me lately?
- 11:19Speaker 1: And they haven't seen it or come to a deal
- 11:20Speaker 1: with them. I just about to say, what if you
- 11:21Speaker 1: if you want to keep both of those good players,
- 11:23Speaker 1: you could right get them both to numbers that makes sense,
- 11:26Speaker 1: that fit their value. You know what numbers that makes
- 11:29Speaker 1: sense that the problem gets free, then the numbers go up.
- 11:33Speaker 1: Let me say it again, I totally believe that they
- 11:35Speaker 1: should spend every penny to the cap the next three
- 11:37Speaker 1: years before they have to pay the quarterback frontload the deals.
- 11:40Speaker 1: Get your own guys done, spend the money the next
- 11:42Speaker 1: three years. I don't care about a penny being rolled over.
- 11:45Speaker 1: Make sure that you do deals that fit the next
- 11:46Speaker 1: three years, because when you have to pay the quarterback,
- 11:48Speaker 1: but then you become a lot like these teams like
- 11:50Speaker 1: the Saints and the and the Packers that have these
- 11:53Speaker 1: elite quarterbacks that take up the cap. The archives of
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- 13:34Speaker 1: Tuesday morning, Mike Grinner from Pro Football Focus recapping the
- 13:38Speaker 1: NFL scouting combine with Asheran Sullivan, John Osher, and Brian Sexton. Mike,
- 13:43Speaker 1: good morning, Hey, thanks for having me on. Still busy here,
- 13:48Speaker 1: never stopped. Free draft. Yes, we are in draft season officially,
- 13:52Speaker 1: and speaking of draft, the Jaguars had the number one
- 13:54Speaker 1: overall pick obviously, and we heard so many options at
- 13:58Speaker 1: the combine offensive line, Hutchenson, what avenue do you foresee
- 14:02Speaker 1: the Jaguars going down? And really, who's the best player
- 14:05Speaker 1: in your opinion, my opinion, the best players Aidan Hutchinson.
- 14:08Speaker 1: And when you're a team like Jacksonville jaguarris that has
- 14:11Speaker 1: needs littered all over that roster, I think you just
- 14:14Speaker 1: got to lead best player. There are other avenues. I
- 14:16Speaker 1: guess that you wanted to help out Trevor Lawrence. But
- 14:18Speaker 1: to me, there are other avenues to do in that
- 14:20Speaker 1: that aren't just using that number one overall pick on
- 14:22Speaker 1: that player. To me, Aidan Hutchinson proved that he is
- 14:25Speaker 1: an elite edge rusher at the combine. Obviously on tape.
- 14:28Speaker 1: His tape is night and day from litter to anyone
- 14:30Speaker 1: else in this draft class. On the edge. You saw
- 14:31Speaker 1: that High State game, you saw that Iowa game. The
- 14:33Speaker 1: way he dominated was Chase young ask in terms of
- 14:35Speaker 1: how he took over um. And then maybe he didn't
- 14:39Speaker 1: blaze the fastest forty, but his ten split, you know,
- 14:42Speaker 1: get off to ten yards down the field and that
- 14:44Speaker 1: forty was the same as Trayvon Walkers. He ran four
- 14:46Speaker 1: or five one, which is all you really needed defensive end.
- 14:48Speaker 1: You really only need to go ten yards and there's
- 14:50Speaker 1: three comb was almost identical to bon Miller's at six
- 14:52Speaker 1: ft seven to sixty. This guy can turn. This guy
- 14:55Speaker 1: has that agility that you want off the edge, and
- 14:57Speaker 1: to me, he's the safest thing in the draft. And
- 14:59Speaker 1: with Jaguars the way they draft the past few years,
- 15:01Speaker 1: they just need a w at this point, Hey, Mike,
- 15:04Speaker 1: where did the first round grades end? In the first
- 15:07Speaker 1: round this year? I mean, I think last year, I
- 15:08Speaker 1: remember hearing that between pick eight and pick forty there
- 15:13Speaker 1: wasn't that much differentiation at any given position. Where how
- 15:17Speaker 1: many difference makers are? They're truly elite players in this draft.
- 15:20Speaker 1: That's the thing. This year's draft does not have nearly
- 15:23Speaker 1: as many as last year's. Did you think that could
- 15:25Speaker 1: last year? You want to pick like thirteen, like Parsons
- 15:28Speaker 1: comes off the board at twelve. You had shown Slater
- 15:30Speaker 1: at thirteen, and those guys were Pro bowlers, you know,
- 15:32Speaker 1: year one, which rarely happens, and those guys were they
- 15:35Speaker 1: weren't even thought of as no one's even regretting it
- 15:37Speaker 1: because the guy's from R Chase and they still the
- 15:39Speaker 1: guys draft ahead of them early too, So to me,
- 15:41Speaker 1: there's really only a couple i'd call blue chip prospects
- 15:44Speaker 1: that their respective positions, as Aidan Hutchinson and Kyle Hamilton's
- 15:48Speaker 1: from Notre Dame in the safety like, those are guys
- 15:50Speaker 1: that are rare for their respective positions, and there's a
- 15:53Speaker 1: lot of guys who are in that first round mix.
- 15:55Speaker 1: So if what you get past the top few picks,
- 15:57Speaker 1: I think the difference between like a you know, everyone's
- 16:00Speaker 1: talking about this taff of class, but like an Ikiakwanu
- 16:02Speaker 1: and say a Trevor Penning out of Northern Iowa isn't
- 16:05Speaker 1: too dissimilar. So the first round grades to me and
- 16:09Speaker 1: somewhere around the mid twenties. But this is a deep class.
- 16:11Speaker 1: On day two, I think second and third round grades,
- 16:14Speaker 1: we had over eighty guys in that mix, So there's
- 16:16Speaker 1: a lot of talent. Once you get past sort of
- 16:19Speaker 1: like where the Jaggles would be drafted in the second round,
- 16:21Speaker 1: third round, there's a lot of guys that should still
- 16:23Speaker 1: be available then, Mike, speaking of that second round pick,
- 16:26Speaker 1: I'm assuming that the Jaguars are going to be taking
- 16:29Speaker 1: receiver there. That could be wrong, but that's my assumption.
- 16:32Speaker 1: How strong is this group right around that area? And
- 16:36Speaker 1: sort of secondly, uh is this this is the case
- 16:39Speaker 1: where you can get a pretty good wide receiver at
- 16:41Speaker 1: the top of the third or do you need to
- 16:43Speaker 1: go top of the second to address that the top
- 16:45Speaker 1: of the third, I can see the class being cooked
- 16:47Speaker 1: at the top of the second. It's been like the
- 16:49Speaker 1: sweet spot in recent years. If you think about that's
- 16:51Speaker 1: where Deebo Samuel came off the board, That's where t Higgins,
- 16:54Speaker 1: Michael Pittman came off the board, That's where Elijah Moore
- 16:56Speaker 1: came off the fourth last year. Like, there's been a
- 16:58Speaker 1: lot of wide receiver talent there's been on NFL ready
- 17:01Speaker 1: and could even be your number one type of wide
- 17:03Speaker 1: receivers that come off the board in the second, but
- 17:04Speaker 1: by the third not nearly as many. Once you get
- 17:07Speaker 1: to their um people still do well of identifying the
- 17:10Speaker 1: athletes that win at that position. They do go highly
- 17:13Speaker 1: so top the second round there could be like a
- 17:15Speaker 1: John Dotson, I could see a Cristal LaVey being on
- 17:18Speaker 1: the board, maybe like a sky More out of Western Michigan.
- 17:20Speaker 1: There will be a lot of talent there that it's
- 17:23Speaker 1: gonna be and even more so Initier's class than even
- 17:26Speaker 1: last year's class, where you have a bunch of different
- 17:28Speaker 1: body types. Last year was a lot of undersized guys
- 17:30Speaker 1: that were coming off the board, and round two this
- 17:32Speaker 1: year you have you know, six ft three, uh, George
- 17:36Speaker 1: Pickens from Georgia, who would have probably gone first round
- 17:38Speaker 1: had you been healthy. This year you have Justin Ross
- 17:40Speaker 1: from Clemson who had to wear a thousand yards as
- 17:42Speaker 1: a true freshman. Like you have these six ft four
- 17:44Speaker 1: like you have a lot of different body types, but
- 17:45Speaker 1: I think will still be on the board there where
- 17:47Speaker 1: they're picking the top second round. It makes too much
- 17:49Speaker 1: sense to give your quarterbacks and health there. Hey, Mike,
- 17:51Speaker 1: outside of Aidan Hutchinson, whose virtues you've already extolled, who's
- 17:55Speaker 1: your favorite player in this draft? I'm regardless, first round,
- 17:57Speaker 1: second round, Day three, who's someone that you fall in
- 18:00Speaker 1: love with for their production, the type of person they are,
- 18:03Speaker 1: what you saw from them in Indianapolis. Well, the guy
- 18:06Speaker 1: hasn't really been talked about because I think he's everyone's
- 18:08Speaker 1: fair player, and it's Kyle Hamilton's from Notre Dame. He's
- 18:11Speaker 1: so unique in that he's six ft four to twenty.
- 18:13Speaker 1: The amount of safeties that are playing in the NFL
- 18:15Speaker 1: day six ft four to twenty, I don't think there aren't.
- 18:18Speaker 1: He is a unique size, speed, explosive, this athlete at
- 18:22Speaker 1: that position. And to me, he's very like, very much
- 18:26Speaker 1: like Isaiah Simmons coming out and that he's gonna be
- 18:28Speaker 1: covered first versatility. But to me, it's so much smooth
- 18:31Speaker 1: than Isaiah Simmons, so much more productive in terms of
- 18:33Speaker 1: getting his hand on the football at the collegiate level
- 18:35Speaker 1: that I don't really care where you play him, whoever
- 18:38Speaker 1: does draft him. I think he's gonna be a productive player.
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- 18:47Speaker 1: on prospects at the top of the draft. After this
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- 19:19Speaker 1: another conversation from this week's Huddle Up Podcast Wednesday, Bucky
- 19:23Speaker 1: John and I get into the tackle situation plus Michigan
- 19:26Speaker 1: defensive end Aiden Hutchinson. What about still drafting an offensive tackle,
- 19:33Speaker 1: keeping Cam on a one year tag, playing Evan Neil
- 19:37Speaker 1: at guard for a year, beef it up and then
- 19:40Speaker 1: kick him out if you don't resign Cam to what
- 19:43Speaker 1: you would hope is his long termositional left tackle, the
- 19:46Speaker 1: Jonathan Ogden plan. If you will Buck, I mean, if
- 19:49Speaker 1: you feel good about the guys at the top of
- 19:51Speaker 1: the board, if you view any of these offensive tackles,
- 19:54Speaker 1: UH like that. Yeah, that's certainly an interesting plan. Um
- 19:59Speaker 1: I would say that us, I would say after the
- 20:01Speaker 1: combine um. Rather than kind of penciling in Evan Neil
- 20:06Speaker 1: for that, I think you have to talk about Ikey
- 20:08Speaker 1: A Kwanu. UM. And maybe if you're gonna think about
- 20:11Speaker 1: that kind of plane, maybe ikey a Kwanu because he's
- 20:14Speaker 1: not quite like the polished left tackle type in terms
- 20:18Speaker 1: of justice playing style and his refined technique. But he
- 20:21Speaker 1: is a bit of a bully um in the bar.
- 20:23Speaker 1: He uh, he certainly would be intriguing if you opted
- 20:27Speaker 1: to go about it that way. Wait a minute, but
- 20:29Speaker 1: I think it's a good option. Hold On, you just
- 20:30Speaker 1: said something. Hold on, you tore up your board. You
- 20:34Speaker 1: just changed your whole board. You just told me you
- 20:36Speaker 1: never tear up a board. Now you tear up your board.
- 20:38Speaker 1: You put Ikey up top. I didn't. I didn't. I
- 20:40Speaker 1: didn't say that. I said the conversation has to be
- 20:43Speaker 1: that to put the conversation in that. Like all those
- 20:46Speaker 1: guys are closely graded, Ikey Kwanu, Evan Neil, even Charles Cross,
- 20:51Speaker 1: like they all are all carried close grades. We're still
- 20:54Speaker 1: trying to sort it out as we're trying to get
- 20:59Speaker 1: him back for Yeah, he's moving on now. We're just
- 21:02Speaker 1: trying to get him in the neighborhood. And I'm not
- 21:04Speaker 1: trying to get him in the house yet. I got
- 21:06Speaker 1: into April, I got to the April to get him
- 21:08Speaker 1: in the house. I just got him in the neighborhood.
- 21:10Speaker 1: We're behind the gated fan gated community. We're in the
- 21:12Speaker 1: gated community, just in the house. Where does the Aidan
- 21:15Speaker 1: Hutchinson fall in your you know, among those offensive lineman,
- 21:19Speaker 1: if you were in your board right now, Bucky Brooks
- 21:23Speaker 1: big board after the combine is aiding up there amongst
- 21:28Speaker 1: those tackles. He's your guy, right But yeah, he's a
- 21:33Speaker 1: good guy man, He's he's everything that you want. But
- 21:36Speaker 1: I would say this and have an opportunity to talk
- 21:39Speaker 1: to all of those guys at the top. The only
- 21:41Speaker 1: one I didn't talk to was Cross. I talked to
- 21:43Speaker 1: Evan Neil, I talked to Ikey Kwanu, Aidan Hudsons, and
- 21:47Speaker 1: I talk the Cavan tip up. All of them are
- 21:49Speaker 1: fairly good, all of them are solid. All of them
- 21:51Speaker 1: bring different things. The offensive lineman, Evan Neil and Ikey Kuano,
- 21:55Speaker 1: they're very mature and serious about their approach. Uh Evan
- 22:00Speaker 1: Neil to me, it's kind of like the technician of
- 22:02Speaker 1: the group. You kind of know what you're getting. You know,
- 22:05Speaker 1: whatever car you want to do it. I know we
- 22:07Speaker 1: don't have sponsorship for whatever, but I would say, like,
- 22:09Speaker 1: it's just a solid car that is going to go
- 22:12Speaker 1: because normally reference like a Honda camera, like, hey, you
- 22:15Speaker 1: just putting the air run for two miles. Yeah, yeah,
- 22:18Speaker 1: but I can't do that. So um like solid iky
- 22:22Speaker 1: Kwana maybe have more upside than all of them, but
- 22:26Speaker 1: he's a little more maller brawler type, and so there
- 22:28Speaker 1: could be some growing pains that you experienced because he's
- 22:30Speaker 1: not necessarily as refined as you want him. But what
- 22:34Speaker 1: he brings is just a freakish athlete with outstanding u
- 22:39Speaker 1: mala brawl of skills and a nasty temperament that I mean,
- 22:43Speaker 1: he changes kind of the temperature and the climate of
- 22:45Speaker 1: of your old line room when he steps in there.
- 22:48Speaker 1: Aidan Hutchinson to me, is a mix of all those things.
- 22:50Speaker 1: Like when I talked to him and some of his teammates,
- 22:53Speaker 1: they just talked about how he was the point on
- 22:55Speaker 1: the sword. He's the unquestioned leader, is work ethic, is
- 23:00Speaker 1: is look man is unmatched in terms of the way
- 23:03Speaker 1: that he says, the tone, how he comes in the building,
- 23:05Speaker 1: how he works, how he plays the every day he
- 23:07Speaker 1: displays in between the lines and those things that said,
- 23:11Speaker 1: there are some people that believe that he is what
- 23:13Speaker 1: he is and he may not get better. To me,
- 23:16Speaker 1: I'm like, well, at least I know what I'm getting.
- 23:17Speaker 1: I'm getting a very very good player. And then Cabin
- 23:20Speaker 1: Tiper though, is the wild card because look, by his
- 23:25Speaker 1: own admission, he compared himself to Dadavian Clowney, which might
- 23:28Speaker 1: not have been the best comparison to put out there,
- 23:30Speaker 1: right and in terms of like the flashers skills, in
- 23:34Speaker 1: terms of um those things. He later came back and
- 23:37Speaker 1: told me the reason made the comparison was he was
- 23:39Speaker 1: trying to best his numbers at the combine, not necessarily
- 23:42Speaker 1: playing style. But when you hear some of the stuff
- 23:45Speaker 1: about him and those things, people have wondered whether he'll
- 23:50Speaker 1: play hard enough consistently, whether he's maybe more preoccupied with
- 23:55Speaker 1: the brand and all of those things. That's it. He's
- 23:59Speaker 1: a really smart player, he's a really athletic player, and
- 24:02Speaker 1: he is a known commodity in terms of what he
- 24:04Speaker 1: was able to do on a big stage for three
- 24:06Speaker 1: years at Oregon. Of those guys, I would say it
- 24:09Speaker 1: the safest big to me would be Aidan Hudsonson, But
- 24:12Speaker 1: I don't know if you could go wrong with the
- 24:14Speaker 1: other guys as well. At one The Bottle Up podcast
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