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Who’s the Victim? · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome to the Almost Famous podcast. Ben and
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Speaker 2: I were just chatting in a separate episode about all
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Speaker 2: our behind the scenes experiences at the Golden Wedding, and
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Speaker 2: now we want to talk about the headlines that were
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Speaker 2: created there and other Bachelor headlines from this week.
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Speaker 3: So kick it off, Ben, Well, the first one is
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Speaker 3: a disappointing one. This is the reason why the Golden
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Speaker 3: Bachelor producers give extremely disappointing update on the Bachelorette spinoff.
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Speaker 2: So if you guys remember a couple of weeks ago,
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Speaker 2: we shared on here that some of the Bachelor producers
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Speaker 2: were at like a pop culture convention a couple of
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Speaker 2: weeks ago, and they said that they definitely want they
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Speaker 2: want to make a Golden Bachelorette happen. But right now
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Speaker 2: we are being told by ABC's EVP Rob Mills, who
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Speaker 2: is also at the wedding, that it likely won't be
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Speaker 2: happening soon. He says, we will take time, the time
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Speaker 2: we need to be thoughtful and meticulous, with the same
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Speaker 2: approach for any subsequent seasons. He said that any new
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Speaker 2: Golden content will be handled with the same careful touch
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Speaker 2: they gave to the season one of The Golden Bachelor.
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Speaker 2: The Golden Bachelor's EP Jason Erlick said that the Golden
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Speaker 2: Bachelorette will likely look quite different than the Golden Bachelor.
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Speaker 2: He explained that the production team hopes that we do
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Speaker 2: get the opportunity and that we get the same genuine
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Speaker 2: feeling of reasonable people looking for love and in trying
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Speaker 2: to recreate the same genuine feelings, He says it's likely
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Speaker 2: that the producers won't want to rush into anything surrounding
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Speaker 2: the Golden Bachelorette, despite there being a demand for the
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Speaker 2: series in a massive amount of buzz. Ben, this just
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Speaker 2: keeps coming back to your theory that somebody in this
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Speaker 2: ABC world actually doesn't want it to happen.
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Speaker 3: M It's my theory and I'm sticking to it.
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Speaker 2: And your theory is this because Ben thinks that they
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Speaker 2: don't want the show to overpower the main Bachelor and
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Speaker 2: that they're worried that they'll never be able to compare
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Speaker 2: to Gary in this season. And I still feel like
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Speaker 2: this is silly, but I think that there's truth to it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's silly. I think it's an unwarranted fear.
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Speaker 3: I do think it's a risk though, and if you
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Speaker 3: listen to our last episode, I go into what I
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Speaker 3: hope out of the Golden Bachelor comes, which is a
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Speaker 3: different vibe. It is the genuineness, It is the care,
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Speaker 3: it is the love, It is the emotion, and not
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Speaker 3: the drama and not the comedy of it all. There
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Speaker 3: can be pieces of that, but overall, I think it's
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Speaker 3: important that this Golden franchise stays separate in a lot
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Speaker 3: of ways, and it brings in a different demographic of
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Speaker 3: people who are willing to sit down with their kids
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Speaker 3: and watch it, or with their adult parents and watch it.
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Speaker 3: I you know, I would compare it to this. I
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Speaker 3: think Gary and Teresa's time together is going to be
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Speaker 3: magical forever. But I would also say that Trista, Sutter
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Speaker 3: and Ryan's story was magical and has been legendary forever,
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Speaker 3: and it didn't take away from the next few seasons
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Speaker 3: of The Bachelorette. In fact, I think it really kind
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Speaker 3: of launched The Bachelorette into a different stratosphere and a
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Speaker 3: kind of a different expectation for the show where people
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Speaker 3: could find love and it wasn't just about getting out
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Speaker 3: there and dating and doing ridiculous things on TV, and
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Speaker 3: so I think if they care for it well, I
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Speaker 3: do believe that Gary and Teresa's season will be always
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Speaker 3: a one that we remember, always one that we talk about.
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Speaker 3: But I don't think it will overshadow the future. I do, though,
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Speaker 3: see the risk and it kind of swallowing up the
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Speaker 3: Bachelor and Bachelorette because people will watch you this over
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Speaker 3: the Bachelor and Bachelorette, and I think that does take
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Speaker 3: some time. And when do you want that to happen.
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Speaker 3: I think it's inevitable that it will happen, but when
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Speaker 3: do you want it to happen? How many more seasons
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Speaker 3: of the Bachelor and bacheloret can you get out.
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Speaker 2: I just don't think they should see it as a
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Speaker 2: problem if they found something that's more exciting to people,
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Speaker 2: because it has been twenty five seasons of The Bachelor,
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Speaker 2: It's like that is the longest stretch of season ever.
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Speaker 3: Throw the white flag and say, hey, this is a
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Speaker 3: good run.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Even if I think it's okay to have if they
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Speaker 2: can fit it in schedule, I think it's totally fine
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Speaker 2: to just be like, all right, we have Bachelor and
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Speaker 2: Bachelorette and then we have the Golden and Okay, no
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Speaker 2: big deal. If the Golden is actually more popular than
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Speaker 2: the original, now I.
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Speaker 3: Would look at it this way. For me, from my perspective,
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Speaker 3: it's similar to Live golf and the PGA Tour. Right now,
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Speaker 3: nobody really cares about that, So I'll kind of summarize
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Speaker 3: what I'm thinking. There's a compromise here. So maybe the
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Speaker 3: Bachelor and Bachelorette only come once every other year and
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Speaker 3: there's an anticipation and excitement for it again where we're like,
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Speaker 3: oh my goodness, we get a year of the Bachelor
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Speaker 3: and Bachelorette, or maybe it comes every couple of years.
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Speaker 3: Whatever it is, there's a way that they both coexist.
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Speaker 3: The show needs to figure it out because I do
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Speaker 3: think in the short term, you got to ride this
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Speaker 3: wave of the Golden. People are excited and they're anxious,
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Speaker 3: and I think you have some great possibilities for Golden bachelorettes.
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Speaker 3: I just want them to do it.
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Speaker 2: To me, there's just a lot of programming out there
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Speaker 2: that has the same age range as The Bachelor, and
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Speaker 2: if you guys have found something that is different and
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Speaker 2: you've started what is different and it's you know, really
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Speaker 2: working financially. Just go with that, and you can always move.
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Speaker 2: I don't want them to, but like if they needed to,
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Speaker 2: they can move The Bachelor to to Hulu.
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Speaker 3: Sure anyway, do I think there's ways that it co exists,
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Speaker 3: but we don't sit in that reasoning committee. Okay, let's
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Speaker 3: fly through a couple of these, just quick hits. ABC
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Speaker 3: has Golden ratings night, the Golden Watch. The Golden Bachelor
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Speaker 3: wedding delivers solid numbers. Yes, they're very solid.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so overall averaged at let's just say, it's four
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Speaker 2: point nine six eight million viewers, So it's about five
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Speaker 2: million viewers. It topped all demos across all networks. That's
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Speaker 2: it's impressive. It's good, it's great. I don't know if
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Speaker 2: the other Bachelor weddings can are on the same level. Definitely,
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Speaker 2: do you think they have been?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because past past shows years ago got a lot
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Speaker 3: more viewers than they get today. But this is a
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Speaker 3: big success for our time with.
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Speaker 2: The comparable ratings that we're at right now. Yeah, sure, yeah,
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Speaker 2: big big Okay.
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Speaker 3: The Golden Bachelor's Leslie Smiles with Teresaess and Golden Weddings.
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Speaker 3: The caption is love you.
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Speaker 2: So Leslie took a picture with Terresa and she says,
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Speaker 2: I love you at Teresa, and it's just the two
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Speaker 2: of them being cute and posy and smiling. She said,
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Speaker 2: like you said in our previous episode, that she was
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Speaker 2: very excited to be there to support Gary and Teresa
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Speaker 2: in their beautiful day and knew it would be really,
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Speaker 2: really amazing. I was able to talk to tru to
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Speaker 2: Leslie a couple minutes before we entered into like the
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Speaker 2: wedding festivities, and I talked to her about how awful
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Speaker 2: her hospitalization was just days prior to going to the wedding.
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Speaker 2: This poor lady. She was in the hospital for five
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Speaker 2: days with a bowel blockage that she had full surgery
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Speaker 2: to remove it. I'm like, true, I'm like, Holeeslie, you
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Speaker 2: are trooper here. You are just dolled up in this
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Speaker 2: gown at a beautiful social event and like at one
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Speaker 2: that's emotional for you, and you just went through this.
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Speaker 2: That's that's immense.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's impressive. She did great, and she was a
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Speaker 3: great attitude the whole time. I do believe she was
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Speaker 3: happy to be there. Okay, two more Golden Wedding headlines
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Speaker 3: Taysha Adams and Klein Bristow shared table at gold Golden Wedding.
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Speaker 3: This comes after, obviously the New Year's Zach Clark pictured drama.
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Speaker 3: We talk a lot about this in our previous episode.
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Speaker 3: Because I was actually at that table, I get to
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Speaker 3: talk about the kind of the dynamic here, but kind
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Speaker 3: of go through this headline and I can clear up
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Speaker 3: again Ashley to kind of answer the question of was
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Speaker 3: their actual drama?
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Speaker 2: Was their actual drama? The answer is no, but no no.
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Speaker 2: In the clip that there's on social media, you can
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Speaker 2: see like everyone's just kind of hanging around. No one
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Speaker 2: is having drama with anyone, Like everybody was happy.
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Speaker 3: No never, Yeah, there was not any drama to speak
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Speaker 3: of everybody. I don't even know if they had to
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Speaker 3: like be mature in the situation. I felt like everybody's
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Speaker 3: just having fun and sharing the same space and doing
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Speaker 3: what they needed to do. It was not weird at all.
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Speaker 3: Sitting there, I thought maybe it could be again, as
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Speaker 3: I mentioned the last episode, I was like, I wanted
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Speaker 3: to have a front her seat when the first time
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Speaker 3: they saw each other again, and now I'm sitting at
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Speaker 3: the same table, This could be interesting.
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Speaker 2: But no, Hey, the table's crazy. We're also pretty big
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Speaker 2: with very large centerpieces, so if they so, if they
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Speaker 2: weren't like a couple seats away from each other, they're
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Speaker 2: pretty well blocked.
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Speaker 3: It worked out, But yeah, I mean everybody had fun. Again.
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Speaker 3: It was you know, Tas and Caitlin are both friends
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Speaker 3: of mine and friends of yours. Obviously I know more
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Speaker 3: about Caitlyn because I was on her season, and so
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Speaker 3: you know, we kind of buddied up with a few others,
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Speaker 3: and Tasha obviously had other friends there as well. We
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Speaker 3: just had a great time. There was nothing weird ever
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Speaker 3: going on. I know it's disappointed to some. Sorry, nothing
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Speaker 3: to report on, but after the wedding, there is a
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Speaker 3: headline that came out that is about Caitlyn as well.
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Speaker 3: Says Caitlin Bristow is disappointed in ex Jason Tartick's victim mentality.
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Speaker 3: After Zach Clarker, you.
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Speaker 2: And I talk to her about this, we'll just say
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Speaker 2: exactly what we told her in real life, okay, but
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Speaker 2: the headline is this she got on her podcast. She said,
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Speaker 2: it's really disappointing to me the way that Jason's kind
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Speaker 2: of leaning into this victim mentality. I don't want to
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Speaker 2: dismiss that he's hurting. I don't want to dismiss that.
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Speaker 2: I don't want to dismiss that his feelings are valid
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Speaker 2: and his feelings are hurting. I have talked to him
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Speaker 2: so openly and honestly. We have been so transparent with
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Speaker 2: each other to have respect for one another. So that
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Speaker 2: she's confused because she thought that there was such a
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Speaker 2: good space following their split. Being at you know, Chris
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Speaker 2: Harrison's wedding, said that we like speak so kindly about
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Speaker 2: each other. We had so much fun at that wedding.
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Speaker 2: And then he came over the other day and I
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Speaker 2: gave him a house tour, and I found myself to
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Speaker 2: be like, oh, I want to invite him and I
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Speaker 2: want to show him the new house. Jason posted something
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Speaker 2: to his Instagram. It was the I think it was
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Speaker 2: the second of January, he said, the first official day
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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four. You could just see it in
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Speaker 2: his face. It was like supposed to be like a
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Speaker 2: oh man, is this really happening to me? Type thing.
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Speaker 2: He was like. It was all alluding to the fact
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Speaker 2: that like, oh wow, okay, so this new year is
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Speaker 2: going to start off with my ex being seen with
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Speaker 2: another guy from the franchise, and you could just you
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Speaker 2: could tell, you could tell that it was a subtle,
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Speaker 2: like wow kind of comment.
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Speaker 3: Definitely like a joke.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it wasn't like it wasn't one hundred percent
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Speaker 2: in your face that you didn't say any name whatever,
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Speaker 2: but it was, yes, a little bit of a job. So,
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Speaker 2: you know, Caitlyn just she feels like Jason's playing the
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Speaker 2: victim a little bit on social media. She thinks he's
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Speaker 2: trying to get attention. I, like I said earlier, Betta
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Speaker 2: and I were just kind of like, you know, to me,
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Speaker 2: I was like, it is what it is, Like, I know,
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Speaker 2: but it's not that bad, That's what I said. I
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Speaker 2: was just he's he's making a little comment. Yeah, he's
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Speaker 2: bringing it up, but it could be worse. It's not
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Speaker 2: that bad. I guess I cannot understand his perspective. It
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Speaker 2: is probably what I'm saying, Like, it's just like it does.
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Speaker 2: It's that's kind of suck. It sucks. It's always gonna
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Speaker 2: suck when you see like your ex, especially when you
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Speaker 2: had like a public relationship with a public figure and
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Speaker 2: they're moving on in front perhaps in front of your face,
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Speaker 2: it's just gonna suck.
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Speaker 3: And yes, like.
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Speaker 2: People will go out and be like the most appropriate
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Speaker 2: thing to do is just to keep your mouth shut
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Speaker 2: and never bring it up at all. But like sometimes
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Speaker 2: it's just like not in your human nature to do that.
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Speaker 2: What do you think?
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Speaker 3: I think that there's obviously still feelings, probably from both sides,
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Speaker 3: like they care about each other, and when you care
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Speaker 3: about somebody, you're gonna get hurt more. It's just gonna
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Speaker 3: hurt more when things like this happen. I understand Kaitlyn's
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Speaker 3: point of view, and I understand Jason's point of view.
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Speaker 3: Kaitlyn is probably saying in her mind, I didn't ask
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Speaker 3: for this, I didn't post this picture. I didn't put
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Speaker 3: them promote this. Jason. If I would have, I probably
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Speaker 3: would have maybe tried to give you a heads up.
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Speaker 3: But this came out not to something I wanted, you know,
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Speaker 3: came out randomly, and I've had to deal with that too. Also,
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Speaker 3: Jason is probably saying, Hey, I'm really hurt and does
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Speaker 3: he want his followers to know that? Sure? Is that
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Speaker 3: right or wrong? I don't know, but it is. It's
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Speaker 3: messy when you're in the public eye. I've been through this.
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Speaker 3: You know, there is many times that you just have
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Speaker 3: to keep your mouth shut. And I think that's maybe
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Speaker 3: the best lesson I learned was there's no good that
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Speaker 3: comes from speaking out. There's no winning here. Yes, there's
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Speaker 3: no winning in any way. Caitlyn's not gonna win this,
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Speaker 3: Jason's not gonna win this. What you need to do
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Speaker 3: is just bite your tongue and pick a few friends
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Speaker 3: that are not a part of any type of like
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Speaker 3: platform and start to talk to them about it and
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Speaker 3: voice your frustrations to them, and you know what, like
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Speaker 3: go punch a punching bag to like release some like stress.
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Speaker 3: Whatever you got to do it, It's just best to
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Speaker 3: not speak about it, because here's the truth. Years later,
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Speaker 3: you're gonna be a lot happier you didn't say anything
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Speaker 3: than if you did.
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Speaker 1: So.
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Speaker 2: Do you think that he is playing the victim?
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Speaker 3: Here? Is he playing the victim? Playing the victim feels
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Speaker 3: like he's intentionally trying to get sympathy.
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Speaker 2: You think it's different than her saying she said, he's
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Speaker 2: leaning into a victim mentality. She said, I.
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Speaker 3: Will say this. When she said the word disappointing comes
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Speaker 3: to mind, My heart sunk because I just remember as
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Speaker 3: a kid, which we all do, is when your parents
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Speaker 3: go I'm not mad at you, I'm just disappointing you,
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Speaker 3: and you're like, oh, come on, like that hears so
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Speaker 3: much worse, Like just be mad at me, Like, just
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Speaker 3: be angry, yell me for like a little bit. I
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Speaker 3: don't I don't know if Jason's intentionally playing into this
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Speaker 3: victim of time. I can't answer that, but I mean
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Speaker 3: it definitely I would just if I if I was
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Speaker 3: really close with Jason and I was to give him advice,
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Speaker 3: I would say to hold your tongue and to not
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Speaker 3: publicly be a victim. But in a sense, like with
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Speaker 3: your friends, feel free to like with your close friends,
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Speaker 3: like you need some sympathy and some care and some
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Speaker 3: love and some extra attention. Ask for it. But social
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Speaker 3: media isn't going to give it to you, because what
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Speaker 3: social media does is it pick sides. And pick sides
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Speaker 3: is never healthy in a breakup, but it's healthy in
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Speaker 3: a relationship. And I would not open up the floodgates
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Speaker 3: for social media to have to pick sides on who's
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Speaker 3: right or who's wrong, or who's more hurt or who's not.
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Speaker 3: That just gets messy and it's not fun for anybody.
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Speaker 3: Nobody again, nobody wins. There's no winning out of that,
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Speaker 3: there's no healing from them. Like when you get in
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Speaker 3: a breakup like this publicly, there's a moment where the
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Speaker 3: band aid gets kind of ripped off. Right, you're kind
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Speaker 3: of healing, You've got the cut already from the breakup,
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Speaker 3: you're stuck a band aid on it, you're hoping for
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Speaker 3: it to heal. You've been waiting a few weeks, and
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Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, something like this happens where
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Speaker 3: your partner moves on, which is totally fair to do.
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Speaker 3: Nobody's blaming anybody for moving on from this relationship. It's over.
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Speaker 3: They've ended it like there's no reason why they can't
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Speaker 3: move on. Then that bandig gets ripped off and it hurts,
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Speaker 3: and it stings for a while, but that's the start
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Speaker 3: of then regrouping and rehealing and getting back out into
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Speaker 3: the world again. And it sucks. I've been through it.
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Speaker 3: It hurts, but you get better in life gets better.
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Speaker 3: And I think this is just like that start of that,
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Speaker 3: and we're seeing it publicly.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, let me just reiterate my thoughts now, because
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Speaker 2: I do not think it's a huge deolo Jason did this.
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Speaker 2: It's like kind of harmless in the grand scheme of like,
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Speaker 2: you know, things you can do on social media when
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Speaker 2: you're in a sticky breakup. But I do think he
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Speaker 2: like kind of did it intentionally. Obviously he did it intentionally,
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Speaker 2: he posted it. It's like intentional. But I and I
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Speaker 2: think that, yeah, maybe maybe he's like stirring up a
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Speaker 2: little drama. Maybe he's sturning up a little bit of teams.
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Speaker 3: Sure. The question you have to ask is did he
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Speaker 3: do it to hurt Caitlin to get her attention.
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Speaker 2: Again, No, he did it for sympathy for himself.
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Speaker 3: Okay, and in a lot of ways, I say, okay,
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Speaker 3: and what we told what I told Caitlyn and I'll
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Speaker 3: share this publicly, was you know, nobody cares about this
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Speaker 3: more than you do. Like I know, it feels like
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Speaker 3: the world cares so much and they're losing sleep over
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Speaker 3: this relationship and this breakup. Truth is nobody is like
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Speaker 3: at this point, Yeah, everybody's you know, everybody's moved on,
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Speaker 3: and so just just ignore the stuff that frustrates you
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Speaker 3: and ignore the things that come out that you're that
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Speaker 3: you're kind of like irritated by because you have to
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Speaker 3: move on. You have to move on, and they will,
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Speaker 3: they will, They'll move on. They're doing I mean, Caitlyn
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Speaker 3: seems Caitlyn seemed really good this week, and she was
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Speaker 3: just a lot of fun. I know she's she feels
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Speaker 3: like the world's coming down around here, probably at least
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Speaker 3: that's what it seems like from her podcast. But she's
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Speaker 3: holding up.
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Speaker 2: She is.
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Speaker 3: Okay. Last headline not a fun one, not one that
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Speaker 3: I'm enjoying talking about, but it is a big headline
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Speaker 3: in Bachelor Nation. We were waiting for it. We told
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Speaker 3: you that we would talk about it once we got
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Speaker 3: clarification on it. The Bachelorett's Rachel Lindsay breaks her silence
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Speaker 3: after Brian filed for the divorce.
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Speaker 2: So she waited to get on her podcast to talk
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Speaker 2: about it. She said, I didn't think I would get emotional.
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Speaker 2: First off, I just want to say thank you for
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Speaker 2: the people who reached out. I'm still trying to reply
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Speaker 2: to people. You never know how great your circle is
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Speaker 2: until you see all the people that reach out to
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Speaker 2: you and love you. Said. Obviously, it's a difficult time.
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Speaker 2: If you've read the headlines, you probably are wondering why
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Speaker 2: I would even work, But to be honest with you,
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Speaker 2: I need to distract myself from myself, and the best
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Speaker 2: way I do that is doing something that I love
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Speaker 2: and I love higher learning the podcast and she said
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Speaker 2: that she's not going to get into details of the
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Speaker 2: divorce right now, said I will eventually, but now is
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Speaker 2: not the time. I'm just trying to take it day
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Speaker 2: by day.
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Speaker 3: So she is obviously speaking on our platforms. There's I mean,
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Speaker 3: she's it seems oaked over, simplified, but there's just a
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Speaker 3: lot of pain obviously in the situation.
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Speaker 2: Really sad this.
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Speaker 3: You know, maybe this would be like a unfair statement
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Speaker 3: for me, but it's what I'm feeling right now. Is
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Speaker 3: I'm going to say it talking about Kayln Jason. You know,
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Speaker 3: I don't love it, Like it's not great that they
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Speaker 3: broke up, but it's been a couple of weeks now
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Speaker 3: like they're both moving on. It's obviously they're functioning. It
20:34
Speaker 3: was a breakup. We didn't want to see it happen.
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Speaker 3: We were sad that they broke up because we liked
20:38
Speaker 3: them as a couple. But they broke up. Okay, they
20:40
Speaker 3: broke up. They're good.
20:41
Speaker 2: We weren't married. I do think that there's a different things.
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Speaker 3: Everybody has a breakup in our life, right this one
20:47
Speaker 3: just feels like I don't like when I saw this headline,
20:51
Speaker 3: and again because Rachel's breaking her silence, it is something
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Speaker 3: we need to speak about because we told people we
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Speaker 3: would or at least fall along. I just don't like
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Speaker 3: to talk about. It's just not something I'm like, it's
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Speaker 3: just not something that I'm like even comfortable talking about
21:06
Speaker 3: because there's a lot of stuff here behind the scenes
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Speaker 3: that you and I both don't know that is obviously
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Speaker 3: existing and happening. Who we can't even say, hey, like, yes,
21:18
Speaker 3: this we saw this coming. No, we didn't know. We
21:19
Speaker 3: had no clue other than that.
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Speaker 2: Random but what we thought was about.
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Speaker 3: What we thought was about it was actually some type
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Speaker 3: of fortune teller. So we'll just leave it with their words.
21:34
Speaker 3: I think with Rachel's words here is that it's very emotional.
21:37
Speaker 3: It's a hard time. It's you know, this isn't something
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Speaker 3: that anybody was wishing or wanting when you enter into this.
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Speaker 2: Real it feels a little less mutual than uh you'd want.
21:47
Speaker 3: Just feels icky to talk about, but that's what we have.
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Speaker 3: We have Rachel's statement on her Higher Learning podcast, we
21:53
Speaker 3: have Brian's obviously statement on Instagram, and then the fact
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Speaker 3: that he did file these divorce papers. That's what we
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Speaker 3: know right now. We don't know where it will go
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Speaker 3: from here. We'll continue to keep you up there.
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Speaker 2: So we know that Rachel is going to talk about
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Speaker 2: it eventually.
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Speaker 3: She says, so, yeah, well, when she does, we'll be
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Speaker 3: talking about it here. Then during the almost famous headlines,
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Speaker 3: final fun headline, this incredible little I don't even know
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Speaker 3: if it's little. I have no clue how big it is.
22:18
Speaker 3: But this dog shelter did this really fun thing. They
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Speaker 3: name dogs their next round of adoptees after Bachelor contestants.
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Speaker 3: It's called Waldo's Rescue. I have a dog here, you
22:36
Speaker 3: do have a dog. I have a dog. He's cue.
22:38
Speaker 3: Kena looks like waiting.
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Speaker 2: Then, oh my gosh, that's so cute. Okay, So I
22:41
Speaker 2: only got a screenshot this morning. Jill Chen she texted me,
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Speaker 2: she was like, you have a dog named after you
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Speaker 2: on Petfinder. So all I have is the screenshot. It's me,
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Speaker 2: Jesse Palmer and Emily Maynard on this screenshot. So that's
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Speaker 2: so cool that you have one too.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So Matt James has one, Caitlin Bristow, we have
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Speaker 3: one for kat Olivia Creedy has one, Gary has one.
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Speaker 3: I have one. Ali Fittotowski beca Tilly, Jordan Rogers, Katie Thurston.
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Speaker 3: That's all I see on here. I'm sure there's more.
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Speaker 3: That just started a separate post here, so.
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Speaker 2: We all have to share this so that these doggies
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Speaker 2: get adopted.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, get Ben Higgins adopted. He needs love more than
23:25
Speaker 3: most reality. Steve also has one, which is wild. They're
23:29
Speaker 3: just really going all out here, and I think maybe
23:32
Speaker 3: one of the hopes here's something I do know. I
23:34
Speaker 3: hope I'm not over sharing. But I got a message
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Speaker 3: from Olivia Creedy, who was on Season twenty of The Bachelor.
23:43
Speaker 3: She says this the rescue I adopted my dog from
23:46
Speaker 3: just did a transport of dogs from Georgia and they
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Speaker 3: named one after you. She was also asking if I
23:52
Speaker 3: was willing to share, and of course I was. You
23:54
Speaker 3: can see it on my Instagram. I think it's super cute,
23:57
Speaker 3: super fun. Go check them out. You just like looking
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Speaker 3: at dogs. It's worth it, and Ben Higgins is the cutest.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to go look on your Instagram and
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Speaker 2: see what your dog looks like. Oh, they're also in
24:08
Speaker 2: They're New York and in southern California.
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Speaker 3: Okay, so that's Olivia is in New York. So I'm
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Speaker 3: assuming she adopted from the New York shelter. Anyways, we'll
24:17
Speaker 3: be back a lot of episodes for you. We're going
24:19
Speaker 3: to keep putting out episodes from the Golden Wedding. We
24:22
Speaker 3: did a lot of interviews there, both Ashley, myself and
24:25
Speaker 3: Trista kind of breaking down our thoughts on the wedding.
24:28
Speaker 3: We got to talk to Leslie of course, on her
24:31
Speaker 3: thoughts on being there. We also got to talk to
24:33
Speaker 3: Susan and Joan, both names that are getting thrown around
24:37
Speaker 3: in addition to Leslie for the Golden Bachelor appe. Also,
24:41
Speaker 3: we want to remind you we are starting a whole
24:44
Speaker 3: new segment, whole new episode that we're really pumped about
24:47
Speaker 3: here at the Almost Famous Podcast. It's called Almost Good Advice,
24:52
Speaker 3: and Almost Good Advice is going to take your questions
24:55
Speaker 3: from everything from relationships to life to friendships, the money,
24:58
Speaker 3: to how do you t and a dog anything you want,
25:01
Speaker 3: and we're gonna break him down and talk about him
25:03
Speaker 3: here on the Almost Famous podcast, giving you almost good advice. Also,
25:08
Speaker 3: when we don't have good advice, I expect us to
25:11
Speaker 3: bring an experts who do. So if you have any
25:13
Speaker 3: questions that you've just been tossing over, we can't wait
25:18
Speaker 3: to speak with you about it. This is gonna be
25:20
Speaker 3: a lot of fun for us. We're gonna try our best,
25:22
Speaker 3: We're gonna take it very seriously. We're also gonna have
25:25
Speaker 3: a lot of fun with it. So please send in
25:27
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25:34
Speaker 2: And tomorrow our interview with Faith comes out, so stay
25:38
Speaker 2: tuned for that and until next time, we love you guys.
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