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Countdown to Kickoff | John Harris on Jaguars and Texans History of This Rivalry Game · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Texans Jaguars Week from Houston, Texans dot Com.
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  Speaker 1: Texans Radio sideline reporter and analyst John Harris is with us.
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  Speaker 1: Hey here we are. Nice to see a Happy Thanksgiving
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  Speaker 1: to you. What's up?
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  Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving to you too, JP man, it's good to
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  Speaker 2: see you. This trip is always a fun one for me,
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  Speaker 2: no matter what happens on the field, because I get
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  Speaker 2: back and get to see some of my guys I
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  Speaker 2: coached many, many years ago, just on the other side
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  Speaker 2: of the banks of the Saint Jolen's River at Episcopall
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  Speaker 2: High School. So it's always kind of weird. I'm ware
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  Speaker 2: of my Texans logo because you know, when the Jaguars
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  Speaker 2: started as an organization, you know, you know, the Oilers
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  Speaker 2: went away, and so I was like, all right, well,
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  Speaker 2: I'm in Jacksonville. Let's let's jump on the Jacksonville train.
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  Speaker 2: So I've been a Jacksonville fan for a long time,
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  Speaker 2: of course, until I got with the Texans, and then
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  Speaker 2: I had to hate them because that's just AFC South Dynamics,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I know I'm aware of what years were you
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  Speaker 1: at Episcopal.
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  Speaker 2: I got there in nineteen ninety four and I was
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  Speaker 2: the junior high coach, and then I took over. I
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  Speaker 2: did a stint at Bishop Kenny, I did a stint
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  Speaker 2: in bowls, and then I got back to Episcopal became
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  Speaker 2: the head varsity coach in nineteen ninety eight. So you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's been a long time when the number at the
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  Speaker 2: beginning of that year is at nineteen, so as long
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  Speaker 2: as a long time ago. So I was there for
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  Speaker 2: three years. We got to the playoffs for the first
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  Speaker 2: time in school history my third year. So I always
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  Speaker 2: had that little feather in my feather in my cap,
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  Speaker 2: so to speak. But I love I love Jacksonville. I
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  Speaker 2: love everything about the city. It was good to myself.
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  Speaker 2: My wife and I met there, we met at Episcopal.
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  Speaker 2: We had our first son there. So Jacksonville always strikes
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  Speaker 2: at that the heartstrings so very much. That makes this
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  Speaker 2: a fun trip. You had a tough trip because we
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  Speaker 2: love Jacksonville. We love Jacksonville so much.
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  Speaker 1: John Harris with us from Texans Radio. Well, it's not
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  Speaker 1: only been good for you personally, of course, away from
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  Speaker 1: the field. For the Texans. On the field, nine out
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  Speaker 1: of the last ten road games against the Jaguars have
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  Speaker 1: been wins for the Texans. One of those was whenum
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  Speaker 1: in London of course, the rest here at Jacksonville. Why
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  Speaker 1: is that, Why is it all of a sudden that
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  Speaker 1: the Texans come here and play well. There's been some
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  Speaker 1: good teams and not so good teams with the Jaguars.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think it's kind of the same
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  Speaker 2: way when you know, the Colts come to do Vault County.
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  Speaker 2: The Colts get spanked for whatever reason. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, it's it's an odd one. I think it's
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  Speaker 2: just as matched up at times where the Texans you know,
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  Speaker 2: have played well in some of those games, and they've
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  Speaker 2: had some good teams over the years. But there's that
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  Speaker 2: lull that we had that you know, from twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: through twenty two where you know, we caught the Jaguars
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  Speaker 2: at the wrong time. For the Jaguars, you know, we
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  Speaker 2: weren't a very good team, but the Jags weren't very
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  Speaker 2: good even in you know, and in twenty two they
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  Speaker 2: really hit the hot streak after we played them in Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know if there's anything that really, you know,
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  Speaker 2: any i'm a reason to it, but it's probably similar
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  Speaker 2: to the Colts. You know, Colts go down there. Duval
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  Speaker 2: kind of like, oh man, the Texans go down there
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  Speaker 2: and like, Okay, we're good, we'll win, We'll be okay.
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  Speaker 2: But look, there's nobody in this building right now, considering
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  Speaker 2: the way we played last few weeks that is going, oh,
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  Speaker 2: we're going down there, we got a guaranteed victory. Like no, no,
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  Speaker 2: not at all. There might have been a few of
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  Speaker 2: those going into last week against the Tennessee Titans, but
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  Speaker 2: those people have either shut up, left the building or
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  Speaker 2: have been muted, so they don't have anything to say.
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  Speaker 2: We we all had an idea like, this is a
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  Speaker 2: division game, this is gonna be tough, but I think
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  Speaker 2: it was probably even tougher than we thought because Will
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  Speaker 2: Levis did play pretty well and that was that was
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  Speaker 2: not what he did the two times we faced them
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  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three. He played pretty well, he hit
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  Speaker 2: some deep shots and that kept them in the game,
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  Speaker 2: and then we just couldn't do anything offensively in the
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  Speaker 2: second half. So this team, this organization in this building,
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  Speaker 2: the people in this building no going down to going
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  Speaker 2: over to Jacksonville after the Jags coming off of bye week.
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  Speaker 2: With the talent the Jags have in the building, our
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  Speaker 2: guys are preparing for a fistfight. There's no question about that,
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  Speaker 2: no matter what the records are.
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  Speaker 1: John, what's going on on the offensive side with the
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  Speaker 1: CJ Stroud and they've got mixing back. He wasn't here
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  Speaker 1: in the first meeting. Nico Collins went off in that game. Statistically,
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  Speaker 1: they had to rally late and win the game. They
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  Speaker 1: did it. What's been going on the last few weeks
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  Speaker 1: with CJ? Where is he?
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  Speaker 2: Well? CJ said it as presser after the game. He
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  Speaker 2: just said it point blank to the media. He said,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just not playing well right now. And I think
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  Speaker 2: there's how I say this. I don't think there's as
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  Speaker 2: much truth to that statement as he wants it to believe.
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  Speaker 2: He threw a couple interceptions. I think the first interception
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  Speaker 2: he threw was more in the receiver than it was
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  Speaker 2: on him. Second one was all him. But he's the
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  Speaker 2: kind of guy that is going to internalize the offense's issues.
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  Speaker 2: I know the talk nationally after the game was, oh,
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  Speaker 2: CJ Stroud sophomore slump all this, and I really was
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  Speaker 2: upset because I was like, CJ's really made some good
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  Speaker 2: throws and made some good throws in that game and
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  Speaker 2: really did some good things that we're accustomed to seeing.
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  Speaker 2: And so I went back and I watched every single
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  Speaker 2: throw and I'm like, man, people are missing the boat
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  Speaker 2: on this. He did make a couple of kind of
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  Speaker 2: non cjlight throws, but I don't buy this whole sophomore
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  Speaker 2: slump thing. I think the sophomore slump has come about,
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  Speaker 2: if you want to say that, in large part because
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  Speaker 2: the protection just hasn't been where it's needed to be.
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  Speaker 2: And I know that you know Trevor has gone through
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  Speaker 2: that at times where he's had some struggles, and you
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  Speaker 2: could attribute some of those to the offensive line not
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  Speaker 2: playing as well as it probably should have in front
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  Speaker 2: of him. I think what's been the Texans issue is
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  Speaker 2: that offensive line has made CJ basically go through quarterback hell.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he drops and as soon as he gets
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  Speaker 2: his back foot, he's having to run or throw way
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  Speaker 2: or do something kind of going to hero ball mode
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  Speaker 2: just to get the ball off. And that's a shame
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  Speaker 2: because receivers have been open, he just hasn't had that time.
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  Speaker 2: He's gotten sped up a little bit because that pressure
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  Speaker 2: is getting to him. Similar pressures have been a monster
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  Speaker 2: our guys have not picked it up. So we've not
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  Speaker 2: had an offensive line that's played exceptionally well in front
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  Speaker 2: of him consistently enough to keep CJ on track. And
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  Speaker 2: of course he's also being compared to the standard as
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  Speaker 2: a rookie where he was one of the greatest rookie
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  Speaker 2: seasons of all time. So there's been some things, you know,
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  Speaker 2: some hills and valleys for him. You know, we missed
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  Speaker 2: Nico for about five weeks, you know, been without Diggs
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  Speaker 2: since the Colts win about three or four weeks ago.
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  Speaker 2: So trying to manage life without them, trying to just
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  Speaker 2: manage life with you know, Joe, with Joe being back,
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  Speaker 2: and Joe's been really good. But in the two games
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  Speaker 2: that we lost here, the offensive line opened no holes
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  Speaker 2: against Detroit, opened no holes against the Tennessee Titans. So
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  Speaker 2: Joe being back is great. But if there's nowhere to
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  Speaker 2: run then and the Jaguars are gonna make it very difficult,
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  Speaker 2: I think, against this offensive line to give them holes
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  Speaker 2: to run, and then we go back to Okay, well,
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  Speaker 2: we can't run the ball, how do we move the football.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna have to throw it. Okay, CJ is gonna
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  Speaker 2: have to CJ is going to have to throw it
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  Speaker 2: forty forty five times to win the game. And now
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  Speaker 2: that's putting a lot of pressure on the offensive line
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  Speaker 2: that is not really held up as well as it
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  Speaker 2: should have and should in this game. So I think
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  Speaker 2: that's really kind of at the crux of where this
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  Speaker 2: offense is. It started off well to a degree, but
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  Speaker 2: second half issues, second half issues have been just huge.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, I had a buddy of mine it just
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  Speaker 2: tweeted at some point on Tuesday morning, he said the
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  Speaker 2: number of touchdowns of Texans have scored in the second
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  Speaker 2: half since New England and that was week five, Week five,
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  Speaker 2: Week six, Week six one, Jimmy Ward one, Derek Barnett
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  Speaker 2: won Texans offense. Well, the first two guys are defensive players,
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  Speaker 2: so we just haven't been able to put the ball
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  Speaker 2: in the end zone in the second half. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: going into week thirteen, thirteen straight games, think team's probably
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  Speaker 2: will fatigue, will beat up. So we got to go
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  Speaker 2: down there and you'll find every ounce of energy get
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  Speaker 2: this win before hopefully get this win before we go
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  Speaker 2: into the bye week. But it's not it's not gonna
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  Speaker 2: be easy, and it's definitely not the team that I
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  Speaker 2: wanted to face going into a buy, them coming out
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  Speaker 2: of a buy and playing at their place, right.
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  Speaker 1: John Harris with US Texans Radio. Defensively, Will and Anderson's
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  Speaker 1: been hurt a bunch of the year. Came back last week,
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  Speaker 1: couple of sacks. They were all over Levis in the
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  Speaker 1: first half, obviously, but Danil Hunter has been playing well.
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  Speaker 1: Seems like statistically, where are they on the defensive side.
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  Speaker 1: They're taking the ball away some it feels like where
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  Speaker 1: does this frank Defensively, can this group maybe carry the
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  Speaker 1: load while the offense fit use it out well?
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  Speaker 2: To this point, they've carried the load. I feel bad
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  Speaker 2: for them that they should have never lost to the
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  Speaker 2: Troit game. I mean put it this way. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: our good buddy Drew Dory, who you know, JP, He
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  Speaker 2: sent me an email he said, we picked off Detroit
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  Speaker 2: five times and lost. We sacked Will Levis eight times,
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  Speaker 2: had two turnovers and to pick six and lost to
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  Speaker 2: the Titans. So this defense, and I've seen some good
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  Speaker 2: ones here in Houston, but I think from front to back,
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  Speaker 2: back to front, it's as good a defense as I've
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  Speaker 2: seen here. Because for a lot of those years we
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  Speaker 2: had good defenses. We had JJ Watt and it was
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  Speaker 2: JJ doing the solo singing, and then everybody else was
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  Speaker 2: you know, you know, it was Gladys Knight and the Pips. Basically,
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  Speaker 2: this group is you know, it's it's everybody getting a
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  Speaker 2: shot at the mic. This is like Wu Tang. Everybody
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  Speaker 2: gets a shot with bars. You know, everybody gets to
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  Speaker 2: spit some bars and away you go. But it's really
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  Speaker 2: starting to evolve into Danielle Hunter being dominating, I mean dominating.
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  Speaker 2: He JP was as good as I've seen a Texans
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  Speaker 2: defensive end, pass rusher ever the last two weeks against
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  Speaker 2: Dallas and then against Tennessee ever. I mean, he's phenomenal.
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  Speaker 2: It's one of the best free agent signings we've ever had.
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  Speaker 2: Will's now getting back into the fold. We're getting some
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  Speaker 2: good play from guys that maybe weren't expecting. On the interior.
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  Speaker 2: We will miss Jalen Petrie. That will hurt. Jalen was
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  Speaker 2: kind of a chess piece. They would use him a nickel,
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  Speaker 2: they'd move him around. He played with linebacker. He blitz,
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  Speaker 2: he drop, he'd cover, he tackle, physical presence. We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: miss him. He's gonna be out with a shoulder injury,
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  Speaker 2: So that's gonna be a big one and how we
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  Speaker 2: kind of adapt to that going forward is gonna be tough.
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  Speaker 2: So don't know what his progress is gonna be going forward,
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  Speaker 2: but I know he's gonna definitely miss this game and
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  Speaker 2: we'll miss him. But Derek Stingley has turned into arguably
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  Speaker 2: the best corner in the league. He's phenomenal. But they
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  Speaker 2: also last week gave up some deep shots and if
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  Speaker 2: it does have an achilles heel, and you know this,
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  Speaker 2: it's the deep shots they you know, we gave up
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  Speaker 2: your feud to Jacksonville and that was a killer, and
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  Speaker 2: it really was what gave Jacksonville life, and it is
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  Speaker 2: what gave Will Levis and Tennessee life the other day,
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  Speaker 2: just giving up those deep shots. So got to keep
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  Speaker 2: the ball in front, rallied the football. It's as fast
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  Speaker 2: and as quick a defense as I can remember seeing
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  Speaker 2: here in Houston. And I know people will say, well,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he gave up points, and you know, but
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  Speaker 2: if you look at what they've done, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: Jacks just saw Jared Goff the other day and that
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  Speaker 2: was a week after we had played him. We picked
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  Speaker 2: them off five times and he completed fifty percent of
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  Speaker 2: his passes. In fact, Levis is the only guy that
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  Speaker 2: completed over sixty percent of his passes this year against
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  Speaker 2: the Texans at Energy Stadium, and he did it with ease, really,
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  Speaker 2: and he did it with the deep ball. And so
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  Speaker 2: that doesn't worry me a little bit because Trevor did
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  Speaker 2: miss some deep balls got behind us, and whether it's
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  Speaker 2: Trevor or Mack, we don't know, but I got a
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  Speaker 2: feel and they're gonna try to exploit us with the
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  Speaker 2: deep ball again. Because if we do have an achilles
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  Speaker 2: heal on defense, that's it. Beyond that, the only achilles
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  Speaker 2: hee we have is that the offense hasn't been picking
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  Speaker 2: up its side of the side of the bargain, and
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  Speaker 2: that the defense has got to be out there for
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  Speaker 2: an extending amount of plays that can't happen. That's got
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  Speaker 2: to like even itself out and get to a point
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  Speaker 2: where we were in Week one where against the colt
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  Speaker 2: we had like thirty four to thirty five minutes of
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  Speaker 2: time possession. The other day we had twenty four minutes.
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  Speaker 2: So the offense has got to start helping the defense
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  Speaker 2: a little bit. This defensive unit is incredible but you're
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  Speaker 2: going to week thirteen, You're going into a stretch after
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  Speaker 2: the buy where you play Miami, Kansas City, Baltimore and
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  Speaker 2: then you go to Tennessee. Man defense is only gonna
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  Speaker 2: be able to do so much. The offense is really
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  Speaker 2: second half in particular. Got to start picking it up
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  Speaker 2: for this team.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone have thought I would have heard gladst Night and
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  Speaker 1: the Pips and Wu Tang in one answer, and that's
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you're all over the man up there the
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  Speaker 1: midnight train to South Georgia, if you will, North Florida
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  Speaker 1: coming up for the Texans. Final thought, how do you
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  Speaker 1: like dealing with the Miko Ryans.
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  Speaker 2: I love the man, I absolutely, I love him. I
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  Speaker 2: love everything about him. I think he's got his finger
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  Speaker 2: on the pulse of this team and knows how everybody
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  Speaker 2: in this organization moves ticks. I mean, he's a he's
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  Speaker 2: a positive guy by nature. He obviously played linebacker here
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  Speaker 2: for the Texans. His wife is from north of Houston,
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  Speaker 2: so Houston really kind of spoke to him. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we couldn't we couldn't have gotten it better. I know
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  Speaker 2: he's been frustrated lately because he just hasn't gotten quite
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  Speaker 2: the play from especially his offensive line that he really
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  Speaker 2: wants his defensive line. He was a little upset with
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  Speaker 2: the old semi high standard. You know. Tony Pollard had
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  Speaker 2: such a good first half against us. But he's the
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  Speaker 2: guy that everything fell into place. We had had Nick
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  Speaker 2: Cassario here, and Nick was doing a great job. But
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  Speaker 2: when we when Demiko was hired to team with Nick,
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  Speaker 2: and then you started making a few free agent signings,
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  Speaker 2: and then obviously the draft of twenty three where you
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  Speaker 2: get C. J. Stroud and Will Anderson Junior. It's like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: the peace are being put together. Those guys work really
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  Speaker 2: really well together, and it's been really fun to be
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  Speaker 2: around both of them. They're extremely competitive, but they're positive.
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  Speaker 2: I love working with him. I love working with Demiko.
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  Speaker 2: It's been great a lot this year because we know
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  Speaker 2: I get a halftime interview with him. We've only trailed
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  Speaker 2: at halftime twice. Once was the Minnesota game where everything
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  Speaker 2: was sideways, and then the other day it was the
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  Speaker 2: other Daygains Tennessee. I never expected it, but he's always
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  Speaker 2: gracious with his time. He's always very thankful. He knows
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  Speaker 2: I have a job to do. You know, we have
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  Speaker 2: a job to do. He allows us to do it
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  Speaker 2: and be a positive light. Whereas there have been other
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  Speaker 2: head coaches that I've been in here that I even knew.
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  Speaker 2: I was a teammate in college of a guy and
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  Speaker 2: it was, you know, the direct opposite. So dealing with
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  Speaker 2: you know, to meet go on a daily basis. You
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  Speaker 2: see him in a hallway. Oh, I'll tell you a
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  Speaker 2: great story about the meeko. So during pre season I
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  Speaker 2: got a chance to go up and do games in
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  Speaker 2: the booth for our preseason TV and so we didn't
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  Speaker 2: do the first game because that was the Hall of
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  Speaker 2: Fame game. So we went to Pittsburgh. So we spent
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  Speaker 2: a week up in Ohio, then we went to Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 2: So we all get off the bus as we drive
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  Speaker 2: to Pittsburgh and we're going for production meeting. And I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if he knew who I was calling a game,
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  Speaker 2: but I was in there with the team, you know,
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  Speaker 2: And so we just do production meeting, no big deal.
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  Speaker 2: So after the game, I was still going to do
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  Speaker 2: all my radio stuff, which is number one to get
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  Speaker 2: a postgame interview with him. After the game, so I
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  Speaker 2: leave the TV booth, I go down do our interview.
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  Speaker 2: I get done and the first thing he says to
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  Speaker 2: me is, hey, man, how is the booth? And I
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  Speaker 2: was like, wow, I mean, I never would have thought
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  Speaker 2: that registered, but he just I'm like, I said the coach,
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  Speaker 2: I said, I kept it clean, which is good, which
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  Speaker 2: is a rarity for me. And I made sure not
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  Speaker 2: to criticize anything you did tonight. His chuckle. But the
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  Speaker 2: fact that he remembered that I thought was really cool
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  Speaker 2: and that he was really excited about it for me,
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: And then we did production meetings for the next two
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: preseason games, and so it was this is really cool
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: that he just he remembered that he thought that was
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: a really cool thing, and you know, thought of me,
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: and just the big old smile lights up the room.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: So he and Nick Asario, the McNair family made a
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: lot of changes. You know, they're the reason that we're
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: in this position to be better than we were through
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: twenty through twenty twenty through twenty twenty two. We just
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: have to now the boulders up there. We got it,
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: you know, it's that push over the top because of
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: the team's in the NFC South since I don't know
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: twenty I don't know, since two thousand. But since Dacy South,
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: you know, came to existence, all three teams in the
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: division that aren't Houston have gone to AFC Championship game.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Even though we won the most division titles. I think
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: since twenty eleven, we have not been to an AFC
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Championship game. So that's got to change. We got to
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: get to that point. I think we're moving in that direction,
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: but losing a game to the Jacksonville Jaguars is not
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: something that anybody will be happy about for sure. So
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: I know Demiko, when I asked him on Monday, I said,
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: you know, got twenty four hour rule for wins and losses, right,
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: but this one seems to sting a little bit, And
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: he's like, yeah, it should, and he goes, I'm hoping
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: that it stings all these guys, and I'm gonna be
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: reminding him of it during the week that we don't
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: want that feeling again after Sunday. So hopefully that message
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: gets sent, Hopefully it gets received, and we can go
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: to Jacksonville and you know, go toe to toe with
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Heinz Allen and Trayvon Walker and hold our own.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: John great stuff as always, and I'll wish you the
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: best of luck after this week.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely same goes JP. I appreciate it, brother, thank you,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: thank you.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: I