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49ers vs Rams - NFL DFS Showdown | Week 1 TNF | Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All systems go.
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  Speaker 2: Clear for liftoff.
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  Speaker 3: What's up, everyone?
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  Speaker 4: Tyler Tamblyn here, a.k.a. ToeTag and Tambo, back for another
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  Speaker 4: edition of the Showdown Show, Showdown Shippers. Here on the
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  Speaker 4: Ship It Nation YouTube station, we got Thursday Night Football
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  Speaker 4: coming off a really fun Monday night.
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  Speaker 3: Not for all.
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  Speaker 4: I know Darnold going out and A.J. Brown getting injured
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  Speaker 4: and so on and so forth, but a fun show. Nonetheless,
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  Speaker 4: yesterday got Hoop and Title here with me again today
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  Speaker 4: as usual, but we had the Eli Raritan touchdown to
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  Speaker 4: kick off the slate. And that was incredible after the
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  Speaker 4: back and forth banter on here yesterday and title.
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  Speaker 3: I know I'll bring you in.
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  Speaker 4: I know you had some action on old Eli yesterday
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  Speaker 4: after you, we described him and who had the funny
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  Speaker 4: line just saying, well, that's titles boy. That's right up
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  Speaker 4: his alley.
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  Speaker 3: How'd that go for you, my friend?
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  Speaker 4: What's going on?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, I was like three X to field
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  Speaker 5: him at 2%, but yeah, other than that, I got
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  Speaker 5: dusted yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: One of us didn't get dusted though. And that was you.
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  Speaker 5: So like I told you, pretty sure I didn't say
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  Speaker 5: congrats yet because I, I still look at those pretty
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  Speaker 5: much all or nothing, 75K worth or whatever versus 4K,
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  Speaker 5: which you'd get for seconds.
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  Speaker 2: So good luck to you if you play tonight or
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  Speaker 2: when you do.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I had like 88% Darnold, so I was
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  Speaker 5: drawing pretty thin after the first drive. Hey, we talk
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  Speaker 5: about that, though. Bankroll management. That's how some slates are
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  Speaker 5: going to go, especially if you play tournaments. You should
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  Speaker 5: expect to lose a lot more than you win. So
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  Speaker 5: nice thing is we can fire right back up tonight.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you betcha. That's the best part for sure. Appreciate you.
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  Speaker 4: Like I say, it's definitely, you know, awesome to get
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  Speaker 4: a chance of those that didn't follow. I got the
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  Speaker 4: tiebreaker in the fantasy football world championship for the first
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  Speaker 4: seat of the season. Ending is the opponent's name. We'll
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  Speaker 4: see if we play it tonight or I think it
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  Speaker 4: has to be on a showdown slate. So it's going
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  Speaker 4: to be a head to head. It's supposed to be tonight, but.
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  Speaker 4: We'll see if he responds back, but yeah, it's a,
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  Speaker 4: it's nothing really for second versus if you get in,
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  Speaker 4: you got everything. You got the seat, the guaranteed money,
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  Speaker 4: the trip, the chance of the afternoon contest, the 2.5
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  Speaker 4: million for first. So it's a lot of fun from
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  Speaker 4: that perspective, but it was a good thing. Like you said,
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  Speaker 4: like the Darnold stuff, I was more surprised hoop. I'll
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  Speaker 4: kick it over to you and bring you in, man.
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  Speaker 4: There was some lock lovers out there last night. Like
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  Speaker 4: I had like people, it's not even a crystal ball.
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  Speaker 4: They just think Darnold's weak or he's going to get
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  Speaker 4: injured or somebody. It feels crazy. Like it was, it
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  Speaker 4: felt like there was a lot of lineups out there.
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  Speaker 4: more than usual, you would suspect with lock. We have
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  Speaker 4: people with them in the captain. I thought it was
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  Speaker 4: just crazy, but I guess people don't have the faith
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  Speaker 4: in the quarterback sometimes, which what was your thoughts on
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  Speaker 4: the lock action last night?
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  Speaker 3: Any, any over there for you?
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  Speaker 1: Well, he was the best quarterback in the game last night. Right. So,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's, that's, that's one thing. I mean, he
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  Speaker 1: outperformed the, the, the guy on the other side. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Drake may look awful. I mean, I just don't even
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  Speaker 1: understand how you make that throw at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the game. Like if you're in the NFL, if you're
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  Speaker 1: an NFL quarterback, they had all that success last season. Like,
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  Speaker 1: you'd think you would have learned some lessons. And as
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  Speaker 1: soon as he starts chucking that thing up, like, it's like, no,
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  Speaker 1: like you just never make that throw. And that was terrible.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, in terms of like DFS, like the backup
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  Speaker 1: quarterback thing is just so, so funny. Like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: minutes into the first game of the season, starting quarterback
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  Speaker 1: gets hurt. And then, you know, the backup is in and,
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  Speaker 1: you know, people are going to play it because it's
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  Speaker 1: one in the past. And, you know, more, if anyone's
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  Speaker 1: doing that, you know, every single time they're, clearly just
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  Speaker 1: donating money long-term because you still have to get everything
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  Speaker 1: else right to go along with it. But yeah, it
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  Speaker 1: was interesting. And then, yeah, of course, I mean, after
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  Speaker 1: our little clip yesterday about the, you know, the, the rare,
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  Speaker 1: raring guy, rare done steak, well done steak, the joke.
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  Speaker 1: And as soon as that happened, I was like, man,
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  Speaker 1: we got the perfect, we got the perfect clip queued
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  Speaker 1: up for this. And our, our team got that out
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  Speaker 1: there right away, which was good to see. It was
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  Speaker 1: a little fun back and forth. And it's probably a
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  Speaker 1: sign of good things to come. I mean, the first,
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  Speaker 1: joke of of the season like the little banter back
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  Speaker 1: and forth we had some fun with it yesterday pays
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  Speaker 1: off right out of the gate and i hope everyone
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  Speaker 1: kind of bumped up their their rared in exposure after
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  Speaker 1: our little uh after our little clip of that so
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  Speaker 1: uh yeah i mean you know in terms of the
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  Speaker 1: game overall we talked about it for sure yesterday we're
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  Speaker 1: kind of had the feeling where it could be a
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  Speaker 1: ugly grinded out sort of game i think would have
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  Speaker 1: been like that either way honestly even if darnold didn't
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  Speaker 1: get hurt i think we would have had a similar
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  Speaker 1: game to that and you know, really just overall talking
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  Speaker 1: about the game, kudos to the Seahawks. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 1: very rare where you see a starting quarterback go down
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  Speaker 1: and the team's still able to rally and get the win.
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  Speaker 1: And they were, you know, their defense is phenomenal. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: just absolutely phenomenal. Just in, I mean, you kind of
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  Speaker 1: dunked on Drake May a little bit, how poorly he played,
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  Speaker 1: but a lot of it has to do with how
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  Speaker 1: good I think that Seahawks defense is like they're in
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  Speaker 1: his face just nonstop. So, Yeah, kudos to the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to be a tough out. I mean, it
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  Speaker 1: sounds like Darnold's injury isn't all that serious. Sounds like
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  Speaker 1: he could be back within a couple weeks. That's going
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  Speaker 1: to be a very, very dangerous team for sure. And
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  Speaker 1: then in terms of the Patriots, you kind of wonder, like,
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  Speaker 1: how much of their success last year was based on
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  Speaker 1: that super, super easy schedule because they didn't look great.
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  Speaker 1: Drake May did not look great. We'll see. But, you know,
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  Speaker 1: another one right back out of here tonight. An absolute banger.
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  Speaker 1: Excited for this one. much different than last night in
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  Speaker 1: terms of the fantasy outlook. I mean, kind of talked
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  Speaker 1: about a little bit before, like so many options in
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  Speaker 1: terms of guys that we think could be the highest scoring.
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  Speaker 1: Last night, you know, if someone put a gun to
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  Speaker 1: your head and said, even money bet, who do you
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  Speaker 1: think is the highest scoring player on the slate? We're
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  Speaker 1: all taking JSN, right? I mean, everyone's going to take JSN.
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  Speaker 1: If someone's literally Even money bet. Boom, boom, boom. Who
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  Speaker 1: do you got? You're taking JSN. It paid off tonight.
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  Speaker 1: That decision would be a little bit harder because there's
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  Speaker 1: like seven or eight guys that I think have a
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  Speaker 1: chance to be up there. Not necessarily the optimal captain,
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  Speaker 1: but the highest scoring guy on the slate. So excited
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  Speaker 1: to go through it with you guys here today.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll hit all the other stuff really quickly, but
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  Speaker 4: you made some really good points there. And I think
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  Speaker 4: that's funny too. We talked last night about if a
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  Speaker 4: certain style of roster construction won, sometimes you see it
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  Speaker 4: carry over. I wonder if tonight, and not that it
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  Speaker 4: would be shocker because if Puka's Puka, but if, you know,
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  Speaker 4: JSN getting there also leads to people being like, well, Hey,
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  Speaker 4: we got the value. We know Puka's the guy let's
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  Speaker 4: go with him. And then we can talk about how
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  Speaker 4: you can get leverage on that when we go there later.
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  Speaker 4: But By the way, Hoop, there will be some more
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  Speaker 4: steak jokes. I don't know how to say his first name, Dijon,
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  Speaker 4: but you get a little strip loin action over there, stripling.
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  Speaker 3: You got to mix that one in too if you
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  Speaker 3: want to stay on the steak front.
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  Speaker 1: I will say- Wasn't that the name of the guy
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  Speaker 1: that was posing to be a 49ers player? It was Love.
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  Speaker 1: What was it? Dajon? But a similar first name.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Jordan Love's cousin. Yeah, he'd wear the helmet
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  Speaker 3: everywhere he goes.
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  Speaker 5: That's got to be one of the craziest stories of
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  Speaker 5: all time. That dude had to go to bed just
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  Speaker 5: laughing to himself every night.
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  Speaker 4: Well, now I don't know how much are they going
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  Speaker 4: to get out of him, but man, that was pretty crazy.
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  Speaker 4: I was like prod and all this other stuff, but Um, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's going to be fun. This is an awesome slate. Again.
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  Speaker 4: I said it yesterday. It's not just the hype, but
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  Speaker 3: And if you go to the dashboard... I'm going to speed.
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  Speaker 4: It up because I have it here. This was actually crazy. Like,
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  Speaker 4: I don't think people were getting to these drew lock lineups.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just under perfect lineup here, but you can see
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  Speaker 4: like what all the perfect lineups were. There was a 49,
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  Speaker 4: seven and who cares? Cause drew lock, right? Like I
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  Speaker 4: get it. Not many were probably going to get there.
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  Speaker 4: Drew lock. Raritan was right there coming up next. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: that's pretty crazy, but I think if you look down
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  Speaker 4: outside of the drew lock lineups, I'm pretty sure we
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  Speaker 4: had it get there because if this is under perfect lineup,
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  Speaker 4: it was one Oh 1.02. For people asking about leaving
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  Speaker 4: a bunch of money on the table, that was not
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  Speaker 4: the case for this one. Now, obviously, if you want
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  Speaker 4: something more unique, I think that's going to be helpful,
• 8:53
  Speaker 4: but you didn't have very high ownership on Matt Collins
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  Speaker 4: who got all those catches late. But then if you
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  Speaker 4: go over to the slate review, um, This is another
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  Speaker 4: thing I wanted to show. This was pretty cool, actually.
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  Speaker 4: This was for the fantasy football seat that I was
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  Speaker 4: talking about that I got. So me and ending. And
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  Speaker 4: then what I wanted to see, and you can see
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  Speaker 4: like how it all worked out. We had a 49-9 lineup,
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  Speaker 4: what we had. But I clicked on ending and I
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  Speaker 4: pulled this up. And this is actually pretty cool. You
• 9:19
  Speaker 4: can go in and see, because I'm just trying to
• 9:21
  Speaker 4: get a feel. I got to play this guy head
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  Speaker 4: to head. I was like, wonder how he played the
• 9:24
  Speaker 4: cue last night. And you can see down here and
• 9:27
  Speaker 4: see all of his lineups that he played. Last night title.
• 9:31
  Speaker 4: I'll kick it to you for a second. We had
• 9:32
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  Speaker 4: I think it was at the blackjack table. Other people
• 9:36
  Speaker 4: have talked about it a bunch though, but the poker tables,
• 9:38
  Speaker 4: I talk about people in mastermind, like using hand histories
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  Speaker 4: and solvers.
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  Speaker 3: And putting all this stuff together.
• 9:44
  Speaker 4: Like the more you can know the better, but unfortunately
• 9:46
  Speaker 4: you ain't getting to see all the hands usually, right?
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  Speaker 4: You'll get to someone shares it or streams it or
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  Speaker 4: whatever DFS. This is sort of the new age and
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  Speaker 4: a different game where all the data is compiled.
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  Speaker 3: Now with these sites that you can just go and
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  Speaker 3: see again, just get a feel. How does this person play?
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  Speaker 3: How they play head to head.
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  Speaker 4: Could be different, but I'd rather have this information than
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  Speaker 4: none at all. And so I'm just looking through it
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  Speaker 4: and thinking about it. But what's your thoughts on being
• 10:07
  Speaker 4: able to sort of go back and see what others
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  Speaker 4: are doing? I know a lot of people use Contest
• 10:10
  Speaker 4: Flashback with SaberSim as well. Just any thoughts on this
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  Speaker 4: as a whole?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 5: I use it all the time. I mean, who do
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  Speaker 5: I think some of the best in the world? Hebrew cheetah, sheets,
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  Speaker 5: shady advice. I'm going back in certain contests. I think
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  Speaker 5: you said something important here. Unfortunately, I don't know how
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  Speaker 5: I would translate a qualifier winner take all to how
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  Speaker 5: he's going to play a head-to-head. It's a completely different
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  Speaker 5: ballgame there. But like college football, I just got into
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  Speaker 5: last year, and it was very new to me. And
• 10:37
  Speaker 5: there's super flex, so it's different that way.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm going in.
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  Speaker 5: You can deep dive in contests with this or with
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  Speaker 5: the Sabre Sim starter package or above. Oh, okay, Shady's
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  Speaker 5: doing a lot of one quarterback with just one receiver. Okay,
• 10:49
  Speaker 5: this sharp guy is doing one quarterback, two receivers. These
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  Speaker 5: guys don't run any no quarterback stacks or whatever it is.
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  Speaker 5: So it makes it a lot easier for me to,
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  Speaker 5: a sport that I know nothing about, to just narrow
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  Speaker 5: down a build, a roster construction-wise, and then take it
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  Speaker 5: from there. What do Shady do or Rio do in
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  Speaker 5: a qualifier, winner-take-all versus the lotto versus $ 100 single entry?
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  Speaker 2: All of those....
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  Speaker 5: Are completely different games. How much, what percents to first?
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  Speaker 5: What's the min cash? How many people are in the tournaments?
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  Speaker 5: It's very important. It's something that we haven't all like,
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  Speaker 5: at least I didn't really know sources that did this three,
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  Speaker 5: four or five years ago. And now that it is
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  Speaker 5: available to the public, I definitely recommend taking advantage. There's
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  Speaker 5: always someone out there better than you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Like you said, for poker, find inefficiencies in human beings.
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  Speaker 5: Do they three bet too much? Do they fold too
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  Speaker 5: much against a check raise? Whatever it may be. And
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  Speaker 5: then you use, and you can, divert your strategy from there.
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  Speaker 5: So definitely something I highly recommend if you take DFS seriously.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's cool.
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  Speaker 4: Like this is again, it won't translate because it's not
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  Speaker 4: a head to head. But like I said, there's learning
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  Speaker 4: as much as you can from other players. This is
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  Speaker 4: a single entry and how he chose to play the
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  Speaker 4: $ 100 single entry yesterday was a Pats D up top.
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  Speaker 4: So you just get a feel like are they looser,
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  Speaker 4: leaving salary, risking it. But again, different tournament styles. You
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  Speaker 4: can dig in further, though. You can see all the
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  Speaker 4: tournaments that they played in yesterday and then try and
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  Speaker 4: get a feel for that. So you guys can check
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  Speaker 4: that out. And then just from yesterday, some people had asked,
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  Speaker 4: so I'll show it quickly. I know we already overrode
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  Speaker 4: it for members on the site, but we didn't have
• 12:14
  Speaker 4: the slate station up and ready yet. So just so
• 12:16
  Speaker 4: people know there's DraftKings and FanDuel. Everything for the cores
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  Speaker 4: will be posted.
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  Speaker 3: Up at the top.
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  Speaker 4: And then the showdown tower by BG little neck, who
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  Speaker 4: many of the members know from in there, the weather's
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  Speaker 4: not updating, right? Cause it's for the upcoming week, but
• 12:28
  Speaker 4: we're just keeping an old sheet to show you guys,
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  Speaker 4: but you can change it by captain running back, running
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  Speaker 4: or a quarterback running back wide receiver, tight end and
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  Speaker 4: kickers and D's. And then you can see what the
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  Speaker 4: colors mean. So if you sort of build your lineup
• 12:40
  Speaker 4: out from the starting point by hand or whatever you're doing,
• 12:43
  Speaker 4: you can say, well, I kind of want to see
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  Speaker 4: who the separators are on this slate. And it will
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  Speaker 4: show you both the captain version and the main version.
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  Speaker 4: And you can sort of put it together, uh, that
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  Speaker 4: way as well so that's up and running and then
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  Speaker 4: of course we've got the stone which we're going to
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  Speaker 4: get to for today here shortly but hoop I'll kick
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  Speaker 4: it over to you man same as usual let's get
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  Speaker 4: to this slate we've got the 49ers we've got the
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  Speaker 4: uh Rams and it's the Australia game it's the battle
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  Speaker 4: of travel right do you go early and stick around
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  Speaker 4: or do you show up 36 hours before what would
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  Speaker 4: you do hoop before you get into the grand scheme
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  Speaker 4: overview how would you travel.
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  Speaker 1: Couldn't do it like the rams are doing it that's
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  Speaker 1: for sure i mean i just can't imagine i get
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  Speaker 1: it i understand why they are doing it but like
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  Speaker 1: i i'd have to have some time to like settle
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  Speaker 1: in um so i don't know if it is it
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: is definitely interesting i i guess i don't know there's
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: so many locations in the world like i don't like
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: why australia is there some reason behind it or just
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: like you know i just get.
• 13:36
  Speaker 4: More i mean international money they just try and.
• 13:38
  Speaker 5: Get probably money yeah yeah he wants to give us
• 13:40
  Speaker 5: money to go here we'll.
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: Take it yeah yeah Yeah, I get it. Just maybe
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: put some bum team. Maybe that Raiders-Dolphins game should have
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: been there this week.
• 13:49
  Speaker 5: No one wants to watch that in the second NFL
• 13:51
  Speaker 5: game in a standalone, though.
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: That's why.
• 13:53
  Speaker 5: Because once it gets to the Sunday morning games, those
• 13:56
  Speaker 5: are bum teams usually. I think this is just too
• 14:00
  Speaker 5: many eyes on the screen for that.
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, anyhow. I don't know. I guess it's great that
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: we have this game tonight, I guess, regardless of the situation.
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: But I would be somewhere in between the two, I guess,
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: maybe like a day or two earlier or something. I
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: have no idea. So we'll see. But DFS, I think
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: it's way different than yesterday in terms of how you
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: build your teams, the mindset going into it, the captain position,
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: that sort of thing. Like I kind of said in
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: the opening, it's like there's a lot of different guys,
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: I think, that have a chance to be the highest scoring.
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: And maybe it's not a slate. And I guess when
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: there's so many guys that I think have the potential
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: to have big games that brings in to the mix,
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: potentially some cheaper captains as well, where you get in
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: that sweet spot where there's, you know, four to five
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: guys that you get 20 to 25 fantasy point, no,
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: but 20, 25 fantasy points, nobody goes off. And then
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: you need a cheap, cheaper captain to make all those
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: guys fit in your lineup. So I think that sort
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: of builds in play to today as well. Just looking
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: at ownership captain wise, you know, the guys that are
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: going to be up there, McCaffrey, Puka, for sure are
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: going to be one, two. And then after that, I
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: think it can be spread out quite a bit. So
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know, there's a lot of ways to play
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: this slate, I think, you know, captains in terms of,
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: you know, who I think is going to be up top.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of different guys. To me, it's probably
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: a slate where I end up spreading it out a
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: little bit. You know, sometimes I'll go in and really
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: narrow it down. Kind of struggled with that today. So
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: I'll most likely be spreading it out. But, you know,
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: way different to me. Yesterday I kind of had the
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: feeling that it would be a nasty, grind it out
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: sort of game. And that's what happened. I think this
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: one could be a shootout, to be honest. So we'll
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: see when we go through it all.
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I forget already, Title. But do you remember how
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: it shook out? Like the steam and moonwalk we talked about.
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: Didn't it come pretty close? I think it was like
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: 16-17 or something for... remandre and jsn i i can't
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: i can pull it up on a different screen here
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: but just while you're going through your side of it
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: i was just curious if you i.
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: To be honest i saw someone say 14 in chat
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: i don't i i didn't really look because at the
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: end of the.
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: Down to like maybe yeah like 15 16 somewhere in
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: that range jsn yeah higher before that but yeah i
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: just was noting it there, but I'll let you take
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: over your thoughts on this right now. Our ownership shows again,
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: this is the initials. We still have multiple updates to come,
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: but we do have like who talked about pretty spread
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: out after those four guys, right? And even those four
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: guys are sort of evenly distributed. I don't know if
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: it's like, and I, and I do agree with hoop
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: as well too. Like it's not the same as yesterday.
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: We had a lot more cheaper guys. It feels like
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: yesterday that could just make the top score work versus today.
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: We know, uh, Terrence Ferguson, yeah, he's going to be
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: popular at 3,200 or whatever in the flex when we
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: get there. But I think it's just an interesting setup otherwise.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: So what's your thoughts on this slate title?
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, like you mentioned, the value on this
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: slate I think is a lot more difficult or more
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: concentrated to feel comfortable than we saw yesterday, which kind
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: of then leads me up to the captain position where
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: I'm seeing so much concentrated ownership with McCaffrey, Purdy on
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: the Niner side, and that's it. No one else is
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: above 5%. And then Stafford and Puka. But man, there
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: are so many other studs in this game that are
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: showing such little ownership. I mean, Devontae Adams is staring
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: me right in the face. He can easily go eight
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: for 102 touchdowns. We know all of his goal line
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: work last year. Kyron Williams, 5% at captain. Obviously, with
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: Blake Corham, who I'll get to shortly, a little concern.
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: It's not going to be like we saw Stevenson just
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: get most of the work yesterday. It's not going to
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: be that situation at all. But he's favored to score
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: a touchdown. It's a 48 and a half total. He's
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: a starting running back. 5% at captain just seems crazy
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: to me. Blake Corum himself at 4,600. Value is tough
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: on this slate, like we mentioned. I think the two
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: clear ones, sub 5K, obviously kickers and defenses will be played,
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: but it's Ferguson and it's Blake Corum. And I am
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: fine playing either of them at the captain spot. Now,
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: when you do so, don't just zero out your salary.
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: We talk about it a lot. Just because you're playing
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: a 3% on Blake Corum at captain doesn't mean that's
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: the only thing you got to get different because all
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: of those other 3% teams are going to have very
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: similar roster construction.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: But I could see Blake.
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: Horn 60 yards on the ground in the touchdown or something.
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: And if he is close enough to these top-end guys
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: or the top-end guys smash and you need value at
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: captain to then spend up elsewhere instead of punt in
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: the flex, I think it is viable. And then going
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: to the Niners side, I'm just looking at the wide
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: receiver room. It's a clear three in Evans, Debo, and Stribling.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: 4% Mike, 1% Debo.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Less than 1% Stribling.
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: Like I find taking a chance on all of those
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: guys in a vacuum, it does feel they are a
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: little overpriced when you're looking at projection and how close
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: they are to the quarterbacks to McCaffrey. Obviously Puka's in
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: a little own tier, but all I'm seeing is Evans
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: is a stud.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Devante's a stud. Stribling, who knows? Debo, who knows?
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: Kyron, Corum, all of these guys have potential to score
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: or to get over a hundred yards on the ground
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: or through the air.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: And two touchdowns and no one's playing them. So.
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: Because I struggle to get different a little below, that's
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: kind of what I'm looking at. Am I going to
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: X McCaffrey, Puka, and all that?
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: No.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: Of course, I'll have some, but I do think the ownership.
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: My thought right now is the quarterbacks I like the least.
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: McCaffrey and Puka, it's really hard for me not to
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: get much of them, but I think where I'm going
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: to get ownership to those secondary guys is going to
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: come mainly from the quarterbacks.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: I think that's how I'm thinking about it too. Hoop,
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: I'll come to you in a second on just other
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: captain thoughts because you kind of gave the grand scheme,
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: but we'll let you chime in. on your favorites and thoughts,
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: but I'm going to echo a couple of things that
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: title said. One would be just looking at it, um,
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: you know, to hoop's point earlier saying he could spread
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: it out. I agree. Um, to more so because of
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: what title just said for me of like, yeah, when
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: you got Adams and Evans and all these other dudes
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: at five, 6%, even if they do steam a little bit,
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: it's like, you can have 12 to 15 of them.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: And where is it coming from? Of course it's coming
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: from Puka and CMC and whatever else might be. But
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: for me, um, I'm not too worried about that because
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: I'll have those lineups in their own way and build
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: them accordingly. That JSN lineup I had earlier, we talked
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: pre-show about Hoop and I were talking pre-show. I didn't
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: have Darnold in it, but it was, I was playing
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: to the game script that Hoop and I talked about
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: on the show and Title chimed in as well. But
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: we're like, what if it just plays Darnold lower scoring slugs,
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: slug fest back and forth.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: I couldn't get Darnold in there if I wanted him.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: There's no way I can predict the injury, but I
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: had JSN just highest score out of everybody. Still got
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: my guy, Judarian price in there, got the guys on
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: the other side with may and Ram and all those
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: guys were Mondray was in there. So it's like, I
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: kind of got what I wanted, but it had the
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: Patriots D and no Darnold. It worked out.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Like it made sense on paper too.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: So you got to go with your game script, but
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: because of that title, that's kind of my thoughts to
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: yours of like how I'd have, I'd have to be
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: under on McCaffrey and Nakua. to make that work, and
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: I'm probably okay with that. Hoop, I'll kick it to you, though.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: What are you thinking with these captains up top, and
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: then specifically the quarterback, because both of us really aren't
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: too high on it. What do you think about the
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: quarterbacks and then the rest of these captain positions?
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of now immediately reversed my thoughts at
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: captain because I don't think I'll be as spread out
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: as I initially thought. I just think there is some
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: holes in some of these guys. I mean, Puka and McCaffrey, yeah, absolutely,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: for sure. And one thing I will say, I think
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: some of these guys– There'll be adjustments. They're going to
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: be higher. I just can't imagine Kyron Williams is going
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: to be 5%. I can't imagine Devontae is going to
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: be 5%. I think they come up a little bit
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: and maybe the quarterbacks come down a little bit and
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: that gap closes between the two. Maybe not, but that's
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: just my initial thought. I just don't think Kyron and
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Devontae will be that low. Going back to Christian and Puka,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: definitely in on them. I don't really like Matthew Stafford
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: at captain. I think he's better on maybe like FanDuel
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: or something. I do think he has a good game here.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: I think he's great. But the problem with Stafford, especially
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: on the full PPR sites such as DraftKings, if he
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: has a big game, to me, either Puka or Devante
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: are going to be needed over him. It's usually one
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: of those two go off. It's hard for him to
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: fully spread it out without really a wide receiver three.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: He does have these tight ends, which we'll get to later.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: But to me, I don't love him on DK in
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: that captain spot. I like Purdy more than him. I'm
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: fine playing Purdy just because I do think there's a
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: path for him to really spread it out. I mean,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: he throws it to McCaffrey a lot. You got Mike Evans,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: you have Kittle, you have Debo, you have Stripling. There's
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: so many guys where I think he does have the
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: chance to potentially spread it out a little bit. Don't
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: really love like the Mike Evans stuff. I don't really
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: love Kittle. I mean, I know he's playing tonight off
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: the injury. I just don't necessarily think those guys are
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: going to have their full compliment of plays right out
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: of the gate. So it's going to make it hard
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: for me to envision them being necessarily needed up top.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: I do, I'm fine taking chances on a guy like,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: you know, Debo at very, what we have him at
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: the ownership on Debo. Pull that up.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Are you talking about a captain?
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Captain? Yeah.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: So it's like, you play a little bit, you're right
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: there with the field. I thought like, if you did
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: best ball and a title did a lot of it,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: like scribbling was like the best ball sweetheart this year.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Like people were loving this guy taking them super high.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I thought for sure, like you'd have some ownership at
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: captain tonight for that reason. Cause a lot of the
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: best ball bros are also in these showdown streets as well.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Or are they?
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: Huh?
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe not. Well, yeah, yeah. Maybe that, maybe it's,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: maybe it is very telling that they're not in these
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: streets because no ownership on him. And I think he's
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: a great play if he's going to be like 1%.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, this guy was legit in the preseason. I
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: don't know. I'd take a chance there. So just to
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: kind of summarize everything, I guess, you know, it's CMC
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: and Puka for sure. I'm good with Purdy. I like Kyron.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: I like Devante. And then like Debo and Stribling. And
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: that's probably my pool at the captain position. Not a
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: ton of interest in Stafford. Like I'm better on FanDuel
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: up top opposed to DK. not a ton of interest
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: in Mike Evans, Kittle, Blake Corham. I think Blake Corham
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: is an elite flex play today, which we'll talk about
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: when we get there. I just don't know the ceiling
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: on him. It's like, he's got to score two touchdowns
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: and I just don't really necessarily want to bank on
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: that right out of the gate. And then like some
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: deep flyers, you know, Ferguson, Parkinson, I think two touchdown upside,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: and you're probably going to need the two touchdowns. They're
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: not volume guys. So you're going to need two out
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: of them. I think it's somewhat possible. So, Yeah, that's
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: kind of where I'm at, Captain Wise. Yeah.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: And we'll see what happens here with this. Like a
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: go collect says the mass is going to go to Puka.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: I think one thing I can just say from who
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: broke it down really well there to me, I just
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: see it. I don't see McCaffrey going anywhere, but potentially
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: maybe even a little higher. I see Puka crossing 20.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: I see both quarterbacks coming down some, I see Williams
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: and Devante going up some. And then after that, I
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: think it kind of is correct. So that's the one.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Thing too, that is it's definitely for sure. And we've
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: seen it with a lot of people using, sims and
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: stuff like that when you when you use sims it
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: tends to spread things out quite a bit gets you
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: a portfolio get you some exposure and i think we're
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: seeing captain ownership get spread out more than we have
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: in the past and i think we really saw that
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: last year where it just gets spread out it's almost
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: to me like quarterbacks on the main slate we always
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: talk about a quarterback ownership on the main slate it
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: always gets spread out it's very rare for somebody to
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: be super highly owned at quarterbacks that's where Well, for
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: the most part, you know, I'll always say this and
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: you guys do as well, like play who you like
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: at the quarterback position. Don't let ownership really come in
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: to factor all that much for you because it typically
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: gets spread out. Starting to see that more at the
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: captain position on the showdown slates where things just get
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: spread out because so many people are using the sims.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, our guy Hamhawk says, guessing people are thinking Strib's
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: usage will be lower since Kittle wasn't expected for week one.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: So yeah, we'll see when we get there too and
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: just see how everybody thinks about it. I don't have
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: anything else to add at the captain position and title.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: I saw Hoops probably a resident bathroom break over there.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: So we're good.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: We're back. The season is in full swing. So I'll
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: kick it to you first. on elaborating on these quarterbacks.
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: Before I do, just want to click back real quick,
• 26:22
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• 26:24
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• 26:33
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• 26:37
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• 26:40
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• 26:42
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• 26:44
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• 26:46
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• 26:49
  Speaker 4: I'll go back to you. We're talking about these quarterbacks,
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: Purdy and Stafford. Hoop broke it down a little bit.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: Somebody in the chat said, like this was last night,
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: we were talking about Drake May for MVP. Now tonight
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: it's Brock is coming for that MVP this year, but
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: he does have weapons. He's got options. It's how healthy
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: are they, how strong, how capable, but what's your thoughts
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: over there, Ty? I'll let you take the reins on quarterback.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: I totally in agreement with what Hoop said.
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: I like Purdy more than Stafford, and it really comes
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: down to I just think that He has a lot
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: more weapons to throw it to. Mike could catch one.
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: Stripling could catch one. McCaffrey could catch one. Right there,
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: that's three different people. It's a little harder for me
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: to see. I mean, especially because we're going to get
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: to when we talk tight ends and even receivers, you're
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: going to see more 13 personnel from the Rams than
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: pretty much any team in the NFL, which means.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: You're going to see some Higby, some Parkinson.
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: These guys aren't necessarily sure they can catch the ball
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: and stuff, but the reason they're doing that is to
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: run the football heavy and then set up play action
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: to their two main guys, and Puka and Devontae. Their
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: target share is going to be a ton. So it
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: just feels harder for Stafford to get there at captain
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: because a lot of that's going to be Puka or
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: Devontae having just a superior game. And I do agree
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: with what Hoop said too. Fan duel, it's a little easier.
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: Half point versus full point PPR is a big difference.
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: So Purdy's my preferred play. But yeah, I think we see,
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: I think like Stafford and the Rams, I think their
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: offense is going to click early. We thought it was
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: the under, we thought that the offenses, and I still
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: do think week one, even week two, a little bit
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: offenses can lag a bit, but the elites of the
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: lead Stafford's been here forever. Pook is one of the
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: best in the game. I think they click a great coach.
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: And I think the Niners put some points on the
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: board as well. So I'm taking a different approach to
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: yesterday's game. I prefer Purdy though, because he has more options.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Hoops said no, no P yeah.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: Just the temp adjustment, temp adjustment over there. Are you
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: looking for a little hotter, a little more well done,
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: or are you looking for a little rare?
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Are you cooling it down a little bit?
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: What do you got?
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: We're cooling the temp down a little bit. We're back
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: on the rare side of things. A little bit too hot.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: Okay. I'll kick it to you on the quarterbacks. If
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: you want to elaborate, you did talk about them already.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: I don't have too much to add. I think what
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: you said, especially about the Brock Purdy side was correct.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: I think from, you know, the we're flipping to flex
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: now looking at ownership that looks more accurate of like,
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: you're adding in kind of the Darnold situation last night.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Don't want to scare anybody or, you know, salt.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: In the wound, but it's like, you're looking 50, 60%
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: for combined ownership for these quarterbacks. They're going to be played,
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: but to title's point hoop, it's like with Stafford, it's
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: probably going to be the way it usually works, at least.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: It's not probably, but it can be where it's all
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: Puka or it's all Devontae or it is the running
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: backs getting in the mix. So then it's like, how
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: would he end up up there? But we're on flex now,
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: so give me your thoughts there with Purdy and Stafford.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for the flex, I mean, two, to me, pass-first offenses.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, sometimes the Rams will get in that mode
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: where they just go super run-heavy. But at the end
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: of the day, if these offenses need to make a play,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: the ball's going to be in Stafford's hands, the ball's
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: going to be in Purdy's hands. And, you know, yes,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey gets a ton of work, but a lot
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: of it comes through the air. And if a lot
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: of his damage is done through the air, Purdy participates
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: in that as well. So I think in terms of flux, yeah,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: on a lot of these guys as much as possible
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: and as much as makes sense within roster construction to
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: elite plays. I do think, you know, Purdy MVP, that
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: might be a little bit of a stretch, but I
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: think he has a phenomenal season. I think he really
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: has a big season this year. I mean, with all
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: the weapons there and I love them getting Debo back.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: So I'm very high on Purdy for this game. I
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: think they're both elite flex option.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: What is the backup situation going to say? You think
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: we need any backups tonight in there or no?
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: No.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: You just didn't want nothing to do with that. All right.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: I'm going to let you stay on it. You had
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: some thoughts earlier with Coram.
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: I know you said, well, wait till we get there,
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: but it seemed like you were pretty excited to talk
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: about that. Obviously he's priced very affordable. I changed a
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: little toggle up top here for those following along on
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: the stone 2.0 at ship at nation.com. If you guys
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: get in over there, you can check this out for yourself.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: We can build right here in the hand builder as
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: we go. But Corum obviously makes a lot of things happen. Yes,
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: he's not projected nearly as well as Williams, but he's
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: also $ 4, 000 cheaper. So give me your thoughts there. We
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: saw Holani last night get a bunch of steam and
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: work there. Price looked good too, but you could see
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: that type of situation again here tonight. What's your thoughts
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: on Blake Corum and the rest of these guys?
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, nothing to really be said about McCaffrey. I mean,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: just absolute stud high, super high floor, probably the highest
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: floor in the NFL, obviously you make the case for,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: you know, Gibbs and Bijan and all these elite running backs.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: But to me, like, if you're talking just strictly floor
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: at the running back position, there's nobody higher in the
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: NFL than Christian McCaffrey, just because he can go out
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: there and catch 10 or 11 balls. And that's, you know,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: he can get you two touchdowns by just catching passes
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: in terms of the number of fantasy points, you know, 10,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: 11 catches, that's two touchdowns. So super high floor, get
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: as much as you can. Kyron Williams, I like him.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: I think he's great in the captain spot, especially if
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: our ownership is true, like the 5%. I think it's
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: going to probably be a little bit higher, but if
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: it's true, he's a great captain play. Probably like him
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: less in the flex just because, you know, 8,600. And
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: the other thing that scares me a little bit with
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: him is they're going to give, I mean, it's not
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: like Blake Corham comes in just to give Kyron a
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: little break, like a couple of snaps. They give Blake
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Corham full on drives where he's out there the whole time.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: And there is no Kyron Williams isn't coming in no
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: matter what, I guess is the point I'm trying to make.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: So that's huge for a backup running back. I do
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: think the ownership comes up a little bit just because
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: he's the first value on the slate.
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: We got some kickers. Yes. We have the tight ends for, for,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: the Rams, but I mean, he has legitimate touchdown upside.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: He's definitely got, you know, titles good with this stuff
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: and I don't need it right away, but the touchdown
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: prop is probably pretty solid for a backup running back.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Probably one of the higher touchdown props you're going to
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: see from backup running backs in the, in the NFL,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: because this team is going to be very successful. They're
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: going to move the ball. And like I said, a
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: little bit ago, like he gets the entire drive. So
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: if they get down to the three yard line, he's
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: going to get those carries. So, I think he's a
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: little– I think he's an elite play. I prefer him
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: over Kyron in the flex. And then I do think
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: this Kalon Black guy is interesting, another guy that apparently
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: looked pretty good in the preseason. I didn't watch a
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: ton of preseason football. Earned the backup job. If there's
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: ever a time for him to maybe get some work,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: it's in an Australia game, potentially 3K. Okay. So I'll
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: include him in my player pool as well. But just
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: ranking these guys to me, it would be like CMC,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Blake Corum, Kyron, and then some dark throws on this
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: black guy.
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was going to say the Kalen comments there,
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: you see listed as the RB2. I know people were
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: hyping that up just recently, like how he got that
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: on the depth chart, talking about splitting it, and then
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: it was like Kubiak. It says where he was impressive
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: in the preseason debut and goes through it all, so
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: you can kind of see those notes when you look
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: it up there. Another thing that Kyle said was– Blake
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: core him, you know, get that guy in the core.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Maybe you throw him in there.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: But I think, like you said, one key point too,
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: is the ownership probably comes up closer to Williams or
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: like Williams comes back a little and he eats up
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: some of it. Cause he just, he makes everything else work.
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: And then when you think about those falling along for
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: the PGA shows, we always talk about it conditionally with like,
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: if Scott, he's going to be more popular, you'll get
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: the value plays just have to come up some. And
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: if you get that wrong, you're probably way off on
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: your ownership. If Puka and CMC, like we said, are
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: steaming up and even more than we already know they're
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: going to be owned, you have to see guys like Corum.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: And then you have to see guys like Ferguson when
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: we get their title come along. And then you start
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: to see, oh, I can see how these builds are
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: starting to look. So if the game doesn't go this way,
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: like where are the San Francisco guys in that build?
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: cmc maybe fits on the other side maybe doesn't so
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: he's in his own captain lineups maybe purdy but people
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: don't really love evans and debone we'll get to those
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: guys so you got to start to see that the
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: builds are looking like it's going to be rams heavy
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: when you see that now before you you can go
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: in on that one but i also want to ask
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: you quickly just any extra or additional thoughts to cmc
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: specifically regarding to the fact of you know kiddle back
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: but how banged up snap count whatever it might be
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: like we know from the past how this has kind
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: of worked out could we just see like mass checkdowns
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: to cmc and just rack those ppr points tonight or
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: what's your thoughts on cmc and then the rest of
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: this stuff that we just talked.
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: About definitely i mean miles garrett a big addition for
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: the rams i who no one can block him and
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: christian mckeffrey's just always there the ultimate security blanket especially
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: when mike evans is making his debut with purdy and
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: hasn't practiced much and all that like the rapport or
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: When push comes to shove and you really need to
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: make a split-second decision, just look at Christian McCaffrey. I'm
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: expecting plenty of checkdowns. Let me see his reception prop.
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: And by the way, it was plus 165 for Corham
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: to score, which is fifth on the slate. So that
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: goes to your point. Four and a half minus 134
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: receptions for McCaffrey, second, only behind Puka. So he's supposed
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: to catch more balls than Devontae, Mike Evans, Kittle.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: You name it.
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: Just shows how safe he is, like Coop's been saying. Yeah,
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: I agree with almost everything you guys say. I think
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: the ownership on Corum has to come up in the flex.
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: I think Kyron's probably comes down. Like you mentioned, when
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: people play Puka and McCaffrey, you need value. Value's tough
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: on this slate. Corum fits that mold very well. Yeah,
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: I think I prefer Kyron at captain and Corum at flex,
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: kind of like Coop's saying. I just want Kyron to
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: fully get his two touchdowns or break off a long
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: run and just really take advantage of that low ownership
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: at captain.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: It's a little scary by the way, because I mean,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: we've been doing these shows for a few years and
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: you and I are about 95% opposite when it comes
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: to our takes on showdown.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Hey, I got dusted yesterday. So maybe today's, maybe that's
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: a good, that's good for us.
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: So, but yeah, I think the 56 and a half
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: rushing prop for Kyron, 44 and a half for Corum.
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: That just shows like it's, some drives is going to
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: be Coram. Some's going to be Kyron. They look at
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: it like one, a one B and the pricing does
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: not reflect that. So I do think the ownership steam
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: is Coram moonwalks back is Kyron prefer Coram at the flex,
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: even though I'll still play some of my captain and
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: Kyron at captain.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: The Keelan black.
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: I mean, he was anyone that watched any college football
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: last year, Indiana ran everyone over black was a big
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: piece of that on their team, but he was banged
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: up in the, preseason a little bit in the start
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: of training camp, came back near the end, still beat
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: out James. It seems like for the job, I don't know.
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: I mean, value is so tough and he's so low owned.
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: I think you can do worse, but if you're only
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: playing like 10 teams or 15 teams, you're more than
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: likely probably going to get two points and that's not
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: going to be enough.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: He's not 1500 or 1000.
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: Like he still has somewhat of a real price tag,
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: but I don't love it. Don't hate it. I'd probably
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: prefer a use check. just because he will be on
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: the field. Kittle, if you think Kittle is limited, I
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: do think he's going to be limited. I think he'll
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: play more in like 60% of snaps maybe. But when
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: they need to throw, I think he'll be out there more.
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: But if you think Kittle's only going to play like 40%,
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: I think Juszczyk's one of the biggest beneficiaries outside of Tongs, Tongis, whatever.
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: But he's going to be out there. He can catch
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: the ball a little bit. Sometimes he'll get a fullback dive.
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: If he randomly gets a touchdown, whatever. Otherwise, I think
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: it's pretty condensed with McCaffery. quorum and uh kyron you.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: Just reminded me of something though maybe i'm wrong maybe
• 38:47
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• 38:48
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• 38:50
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• 38:52
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• 38:55
  Speaker 4: when they do keep Kittle down, some doesn't, don't they
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: just put juice in there to block and he just
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: kind of does the Kittle roll. And then Tonjes just
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: gets the catches. And funny enough, because Kittle's back tonight,
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: Tonjes won't be owned like a Kittle game, like a
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: Meyer situation coming up this weekend with the surprise Brock
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: Bowers news and coaches lying about it and everything that's
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: going on. So you might see that and we might
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: get there in a minute, but I will say that's
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: kind of interesting because.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: When you look at quorum, 4,600.
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: I'm jumping ahead, of course, but when you look at Ferguson, 3,200,
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: this is not steaming up at all, but there is
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: a chance that there's some of those situations where Tondras
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: could be the guy tonight in that spot as well.
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: So I think that's at least somewhat interesting there. The
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: other thing I was going to say to, I think
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: Hoop said it earlier, it's so annoying. I remember classic
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: slates last year. You're needing Williams and you're like, oh yeah,
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: the Rams just got to the 20 yard line.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Let's go. You look and who's jogging out there?
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: Corum.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: Like, come on. This guy's been carrying the ball. Kyron's
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: been carrying it out.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: It really doesn't go like the opposite way though it's
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: like kind of crazy because like there are times where
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: kyron's in there for majority of drive and then quorum
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: marches out but it's like quorum's out there like he's
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: staying out there.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: He doesn't do like one drive he doesn't do what
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: yeah it's what you said he's not just like one
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: carry like oh williams must just be getting a breath
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: nope they're just jamming this guy all day now and
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: williams just standing on the sideline i.
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: Think it's even though when he was there, if it
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: was a two yard line, it's either a slant fade
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: to Devante.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Like, and I don't see them getting away from it.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: All they do is throw.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: 13 personnel is their thing now. So yeah, we'll, we'll
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: get there.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, there's definitely, again, it's, it's leaning that way title.
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: I'm going to go back to you. Now we, we
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: talked earlier about Puka. You just mentioned Devante on those slants.
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: They definitely happen, right? Those are, those are definitely a thing.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: So the more interesting side, again, I just, I know
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: there's showing ownership on them. And of course everybody gets
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: ownership at some point, but, for having Evans and D
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: I think somebody said earlier, I wonder if I wonder
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: how Debo is going to play in the Debo role
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: this year. It's him and it's his role, but how
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: is he going to play? And then stripling who we
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: talked about. And then I don't think there's much after
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: that of people actually considering these guys, but in portfolios,
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: you'll definitely see a bunch of these Rams and other
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: guys down below, but give me your thoughts at wide
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: receiver here. Yeah.
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: I mean, I guess I'm a best ball bro. And
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: I'm going to be on stripling is my favorite. He's
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: the cheapest of the main, or I'm going to, I'm
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: talking 49ers first and then I'll get to the Rams.
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: Cause I think the Niners is a lot easier. Cause
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: I like someone asked him about to Marcus Robinson earlier.
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: I'll never say no to 1% playing showdown. It's not
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: for me though. I think it's stripling Mike Evans and
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: Debo and their three receiver stuff. Debo, I feel like
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: his loss is that we will find out, but striplings, they're,
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: their new young toy. And I'm not worried about Mike
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: Evans injury at all. Like they've already came out pretty
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: much saying it was they're just being cautious. He's what?
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: 33 or something. Many of years in the NFL, you
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: don't need to injure them in the preseason. So I
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: think he's full go, but just looking at the pricing
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: and the ownership, he's the lowest price of the three
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: at 6,600. And he's the cheap or the lowest own
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: at 14%, 14% for this guy that absolutely flew up
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: every draft board. Seems to have a solid rapport and,
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: He's a good player. I'm going to take a chance
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: at him. I'm fine with Debo. I'm fine with Mike Evans.
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: I would rank him Stribling, Mike Evans, and then Debo.
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: I need to see some explosiveness from Debo first before
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: I'm jumping all the way on. But at ownership, like
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: if you're eating Puka chalk and then you're playing Quorum
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: and then you're playing Ferguson, you got to get different somewhere.
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: And if you're not going to like a crazy punt value,
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: I'm going to find myself, I think, playing some of
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: these Niner receivers as a way to get difference. And
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: if you're playing Purdy Captain– I think they're a great
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: way to play in the flex. A little harder on
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: the Ram side. And again, a lot of that is
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: because a lot of the times they're going to play
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: 13 personnel and it's just going to be Puka and Devontae.
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: So you're worrying about these Mumfield, Xavier Smith, Tutu Atwell.
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: Mumfield's the wide receiver three and he's $ 1, 200. So I'll
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: rank him number three. He's going to be low on,
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: he's going to be on the field a bit. But again,
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: even when he is on the field and clear passing downs,
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: he's going to be like the fifth option that's being
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: looked at. So I feel like he's drawing pretty thin
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: to get there. Xavier Smith is a stone cold punt
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: at 200. I think there is a chance that you
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: could see a zero on the winner today. If all
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: of those studs up top, get it. The value is
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: really tough. Coram doesn't get, Coram scores four, Ferguson scores three. Well,
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: maybe you just want a zero from a $ 200 guy
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: and not spend anything and then spend all your money
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: for the studs. So For that reason, maybe I'll play
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: some Xavier Smith, but it's just really concentrated for the
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: Rams when they don't play many receivers.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: I'm going to look up some of these cheap guys
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: in a second in the newsfeed, but who, a couple
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: of things title said at wide receiver or like earlier.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: And then this guy asked about it as well. It said,
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: how much does the miles Garrett affect the miles Garrett
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: effect affect this game is kind of what he's saying.
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: I think from that perspective, but just interesting. maybe thinking
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: about it from this perspective, you go back, this is
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: only from seven days ago. I like this Mike nuggets NFL.
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: So this is on the DFSOS newsfeed says Brock Purdy says,
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: dribbling will be a big part of the 49ers offense.
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: He's done an amazing job with coming in, obviously learning
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: the playbook, keeping his head down and working. He doesn't
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: just talk, talk, talk. I like that type of comment
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: about somebody because it's like, look, everybody comes in and
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: talk something up. Let's see what they really do. I
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: think you called that about price last night. So sort
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: of hearing some of the same stuff and then price
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: came out and he wasn't, He certainly wasn't talking 13
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: yards out of the gate. He was strapping up seven
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: of 10 on a few different drives, but then stribling
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: to play slot. This is also from just a week
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: ago to be Evans understudy at the X. You got
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: miles Garrett coming at you. You might be looking at
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: that guy in the slot pretty quickly too. So there
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: is something to be said there for like those checkdowns
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: with those guys. And if Purdy's on a bit of,
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: or sorry, if I'm Kittle's on a bit of that
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: count as well and everything that we see there, I
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: think title, you know, nailed it there. Look, people, speaking
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: of talk, talk, talk, people talking about this guy a lot.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: It's currently anywhere you look across the industry. It doesn't
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: look like there's people doing much walk, walk, walking when
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: it comes to putting this guy into their lineups and
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: clicking the button. So, uh, give me your thoughts further.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: And then anything else you want to add at this position?
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: Some of those low guys I'll look up while you're
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: going through it, but I'm just curious what it says,
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: but give me your thoughts here on that.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: So what's the mindset with mild Garrett? Like he's going
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: to be in the backfield. So they're going to have
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: to get rid of the ball quicker. And, you know,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: so some of these guys run shorter routes could get
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: a boost.
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, I could see it, but it's, it's hard.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's really hard to quantify that when it's
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: a one game slate and, you know, we just don't
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: have any other options to go to. So I don't know.
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: If someone goes that route, I think they're just telling you.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: I see it. I mean, I could see it, but
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it's really going to, affect
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: how I build teams or anything. I guess if you
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: do think Stribling's the guy that gets the boost, I
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: absolutely love it because I was kind of prepared to
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: come on here before I looked at anything and say, oh,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: I can't play the Stribling guy because he's going to
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: be so popular. I'm kind of shocked that there's no
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: ownership and maybe it is kind of what Title kind
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: of alluded to where the best ball people are in
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: a separate bubble than the DFS people because this guy
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: I would say shot up the boards quicker than just
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: about anyone else in the best ball streets. I mean,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: people were taking him in like the fifth round, right?
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: He was at the end of the draft. He got to.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: 80th ADP, yeah. 80 ADP. So what is that? Is
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: that sixth round maybe or something?
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right about there.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Sixth round? Sixth, seventh round, like he shot. Wait, like
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: early on he was going like at the end of
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: drafts as just some random guy to pick up. Towards
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: the end, he was 80 ADP.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: I think it's the price mainly. I think people are
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: just going to try.
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: Once you go Puka and McCamp, I think that's just
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: the dead zone, at least ownership showing that.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and a lot of times it is that 6K-ish range.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: It's a little above the kickers. It's below the studs.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: It's kind of in that awkward point. So maybe that's why. But, man,
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: if that's the case, if this ownership holds, I think
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: he's got to be one of the best plays on
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: the slate in flex and, I mean, everything. I mean,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: I shit on, like, the preseason talk yesterday about training
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: camp and everyone looking good, but. This guy kind of
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: backed it up, though, like when they played actual games
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: and like the clips looked phenomenal. So, yeah, I'm in
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: on him for sure. I hope the ownership stays low. Obviously,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Puka is a great play. Obviously, Devante is a great play.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: But for the 49ers pass catchers factoring everything in, I
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: think he's probably probably my favorite. Good with Mike Evans.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: Good with Deboe. You know, more flex plays, though, like
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: I talked about. I don't necessarily love Mike Evans up top,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: but I love him in, like, Brock Purdy captain teams.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: I think he's a great fit. The cheap wide receivers
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: on this slate, just, I don't know, just not all
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: that interested. I guess, yeah, if you're going to take
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: a shot, just go with the cheapest guy and hope
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: maybe a goose egg is, you know, needed or something
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: here today. I'd be fine with that. I just don't
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: see Demarcus Robinson. I don't see Whittington. I don't see Mumpfield.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: I just, I don't know. I don't see it. So
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to focus on the other guys and
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: you're getting a legit guy at not that far off
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: ownership from those shitty dudes. Like we're showing scribbling at 15%.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Some of those other random guys, seven, 8%. So I
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: don't know. I'll just stick with scribbling. I think he's
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: a phenomenal play. If he stays around 15% ownership. So
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: I do think, I do think Devontae, has a chance
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: to maybe get squeezed a little bit. People are going
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: to want to, you know, if they're playing a Rams
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: pass catcher, it's definitely going to be Puka over him.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: I do really like Devante Adams, you know, those little
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: short slants in the, you know, at the two yard line,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: there's not many wide receivers that have the ability to
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: execute in those positions. So I think he's a really
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: good option, but yeah, Scribbling definitely stands out to me.
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah. The chat, I mean, I'm, I've been, Telling you, like,
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: I don't bet too much.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's– are those numbers legit?
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: Like, I'm not– I just think it's going to be
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: for sure. Yardage, how he gets it, like, he'll be
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: eight yards, eight yards.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: We could see that.
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: But I could see where he tries them, like, a
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: couple times just in the first quarter out there. And
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: then you've got two catches and you're looking for the
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: third grab. But, yeah, you've got to get the yardage
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: to go with it. But, yeah, I think that's very
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: interesting from that perspective.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Those are very appealing numbers.
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of people– I think Dobbs is still
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: tilted about Dobbs last night.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: That's one of the that's be one of the worst
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: like from a wide receiver like uh you know opening
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: performance with a new team that was horrible that.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: Changed the whole game is drop that was terrible.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah the drop and he just couldn't even get open
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: like it was oh that was bad And the one
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: time he does get open, I mean, that drop was.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: He always got the big ass helmet on too.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: And it's like, it just makes it worse.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Hey, Nate, he was good for green Bay. Don't sit
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: on too much. He did good for us. And then
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: he got paid, and now, yeah, it might not be good.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: But it does make a good point.
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: When you mess up that bad, and you know the
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: camera's just staring at you the whole time, it sucks
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: to be sitting there in a guardian cap. I know
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: it's safe to be all this, making fun of it,
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: but it is kind of bad. You're just sitting there,
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: and you just know he hates his life.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: So we'll see.
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: Um again bad game for him but it's not like
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: it was a great game for anybody for for that
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: case you know douglas nothing really holland's few big catches
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: down the stretch to help them get into that opportunity
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: where then may threw it away but aj brown unfortunately
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: getting injured just so many different things we're still waiting
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: for that matthew golden breakout though nades in there talking
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: about their.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Own hands they lost a couple wide receivers maybe this
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: is the year big nades maybe this is the year
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: golden gets it going baby week one get them right
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: out of the gate they got the vikings Vikings.
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: No, no, Josh Jacobs. Damn. This is the time right here.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: I think when is Jacob's going to be back now
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: or how's it going to play out?
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: Cause I think everything just got cleared today.
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: He's going to be up to the NFL. I mean,
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: the courts aren't really, it seems like a slap on,
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: on the wrist there. It seems like it's all up
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: to the NFL and the NFL has got to at
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: least give them four.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: You would think.
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: This was a big thing. The, the word of the
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: year proprioception, his proprioception was off because he thought he
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: had it, but it was swinging and he wasn't quite ready.
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: So the big drop for Romeo, but, The.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: The, the scribbling play is a little less appealing when you,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: when you look at the juice over the prop on
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: D on DK is a minus one 60. So over
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: two and a half minus one 60 kind of take
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: some of the appeal.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: Like bet three, six, five has alts. I would take all,
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: because if you really think like I do, that he
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: could have like two check downs or two quick slot
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: catches or something like that at some point early, you
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: can get to three or four catches.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: Let's see if we go to three, what sort of
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: number we're looking at. So even DK's, some of their
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: stuff's just horrible. So three plus is still minus 160.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: How's that even possible?
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: I was just going to try and pull it up
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: Three plus, that's because it's the same as over two
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: and a half. Three plus, they're going to count it
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: at three.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: So it's the same. Okay, so yeah.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: Three and a half.
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: So receiving receptions. Let me see what the max I
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: can get. So I can get up to seven catches,
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: 12 to one.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: There it is, man. He's going to have the JSN
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: line tonight.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: I think you get like five catches, like plus 400.
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: I don't know, like not my favorite thing to do,
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: but just to note it, I think that's... I mean.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: I think, honestly, I think without saying anything crazy, I
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: think like five for 60 is very in the realm
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: of possibility. So like what's four and a half, over
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: four and a half?
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: Let's just do the five for, what'd you say?
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: Five for how many?
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: Five for 60 yards or something. I think is 550.
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: We like to keep it easy here. Five, five, zero.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: Let's go five for 50.
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: Cause they'll give the even block and that's going to
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: give you plus six 25. Yeah.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: I don't hate that play. There's our bet of the
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: day right there.
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: Done.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: Bet it just now.
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: I got a few bucks after the Raritan touchdown last night,
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: so throwing that in right now.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: We're starting the season strong here. By the way, got
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: it live.
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: Appreciate all the support, but you're going to need it
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: tonight because I don't play these head-to-heads, but we just
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: got it. We're going.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, nice.
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: It's an ending tonight.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: Oh, tonight it is? Okay, very good. There you go.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: That makes sense. That definitely makes sense to do it
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: that way.
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: I'm good.
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: We'll, we'll run it back right away tonight. Battle it up,
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: see what happens and good luck to ending, but it
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: should be a lot of fun.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: You don't mean that, you know, I saw two, I
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: saw two footballs in the ad that definitely didn't get caught.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: So he's going to need to find a couple more.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Those ads are quality. All right. Yeah.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: I know what you're talking about now.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: So keep it moving. We'll go to tight end hoop.
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: So speaking of that, there you go. By the way,
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: everyone who doesn't know and didn't get to congratulate him
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: last year, Tidal is also a dad now. So the
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: dad jokes went up going into this season.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: Now he's binded to laugh at our dad jokes.
• 53:59
  Speaker 5: Not quite. I'm still keeping mine alive over here. He
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: can't even say a word, so he can't have those
• 54:06
  Speaker 5: jokes yet.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: When are you heading back to Wisconsin? That's the true test.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: I was literally just there last week. I was just
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: there like three.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: We got to get a show. We got to get
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: a show in the room with the fan and then
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: we can get.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: The trust me out. There's seven weddings in Wisconsin this year.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: You'll see me back in that room. Beautiful.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: Tight end. Uh, kid will find play. I think, you know,
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: pretty captain teams for sure. Uh, I just, there's no
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: way to me, at least that he's going to get
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: full compliment of plays. Um, fine if he gets into
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: some lineups not thrilled but I mean the the Rams
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: guys are very interesting Ferguson and Parkinson like to me
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: these are their wide receiver threes big play upside from
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: from Ferguson I mean they got Matthew Stafford's trust and
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: that's the key thing with some of these veteran quarterbacks
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: like do they trust you as a pass catcher and
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: Stafford trust both these guys I think they're both phenomenal plays.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: They're going to be, I'd say, somewhat popular. A lot
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: of times these cheaper plays aren't as popular, but we
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: saw it all last year. They didn't sign another tight
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: end or anything. I know Higby will be out there too,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: but to me it's Ferguson, Parkinson. I think they're both
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: good plays in their own mind. Tonjes, 4,400, not as appealing,
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: but if you are assuming that Kittle isn't going to
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: get his full compliment at work, you need to include
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: him in your player pool, but I don't care about
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: the ownership with Ferguson, Parkinson. I like them to me.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: They're the wide receiver three on this, on this football team.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: And instead of playing those other cheap guys, which yes,
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: they're going to be much lower owned. I just, to me,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: there's a legit chance for these guys to do something.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's where I'm at tight end wise.
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: What about you title? Any additional dots? Did you, what did,
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: by the way, what did you think about my Tom
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: just take earlier? You can, can you get there? You think?
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: Man, he's 4,400. That's the thing. I would make a rule,
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: which I rarely do, max one Kittle Tonjes. It feels tough.
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: I don't think I'm really going to get there much myself.
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean, he's super, super low on when
• 56:09
  Speaker 5: he plays and Kittle hasn't played.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: He's done well.
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: I think most of the time when Kittle is out there,
• 56:16
  Speaker 5: whether it's 60% or whatever, they're throwing the ball or
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: more high leverage situations. Whereas when he's off the field,
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: maybe they run a little bit more so. Don't see
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: myself really getting there too much. I don't, I guess
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: I talk about best ball guy. Like everyone loves Terrence
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: Ferguson and rightfully so. We saw it last year. The
• 56:34
  Speaker 5: dude actually makes plays. I don't believe the ownership probably
• 56:37
  Speaker 5: anywhere in the industry, but I think he gets steamed
• 56:40
  Speaker 5: for sure. And then the Parkinson is more held in
• 56:43
  Speaker 5: check and Higby's already showing to be in check. Like
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: right now, if the ownership is true and I knew that,
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: I might have 45% Terrence Ferguson. I just think that 18%,
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: could be 25%, could be 26%, 7% when it's all
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: said and done. And then Parkinson's is almost half the ownership.
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: And when that's the case, then it gets a little
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: more appealing when you're talking the pivot for Parkinson's, 400 more.
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: And it's just really clear. Ferguson seems to be the
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: guy this year at tight end when it comes to
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: catching the football. So I don't know why, A, Parkinson's
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: 400 more, and then how ownership is going to be
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: too close this Again, that's why your inputs are your outputs.
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: If you put in the 18% for Ferguson, I'm getting 45%.
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: If I'm putting in 27% Ferguson, it's a whole different ballgame.
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: I'm definitely going to be playing, though, all three of them.
• 57:33
  Speaker 5: I think Tyler Higby is also a very solid play.
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: $ 600 Davis Allen.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: I don't even think he's the worst play.
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: I mean, if I think 2.6 points might be enough
• 57:41
  Speaker 5: at 600, or it's a slate where I could see that,
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: if McCaffrey, the quarterbacks, Puka, Devontae all do what they
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: need to. I'm going to play them. They're going to
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: play a bunch of tight ends. And McVay is very,
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: very savvy with his play calling. He can find guys
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: wide open. Doesn't matter who you are. So I like
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: the tight ends for sure on the Rams.
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: Little nugget, too, actually, that I just looked up and saw.
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: You guys always say stuff, and then I just think
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: about random shit. My brain works weird. But when you
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: said stuff about those two, I agree 100% on the
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: Ferguson team. The touchdown prop is already better for Parkinson.
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: And also, I remember last year, like McVay does this.
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: He rewards him.
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: Remember, he does all the blocking for him, and then
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: they get down there, and then he feeds the touchdown
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: to Parkinson.
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: I like that one, too.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: You said it was better on Parkinson. What book are
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: you looking at?
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: Bet365.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: What do they have for both?
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: Sorry, I'm saying he's plus 425 and Ferguson is plus 450. Oh, wow.
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: Ferguson's plus 370 on DK and Park's plus 425, which
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: just shows if anyone's betting any sport, you have to.
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: It's hard enough. You have to price shop. And now
• 58:48
  Speaker 5: you can if you really want to get in the
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: prediction markets. But just that alone, like plus 375 versus
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: plus 450 is night and day.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: So always price shop. Yep.
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: And we saw this last year, too, actually.
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: Good shout-out by Marquee Sports. Always supporting. We appreciate you
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: said Parkinson. We saw those games, too, where it was
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: like it was the Adams and and Parkinson getting the
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: touchdowns down there after Puka's getting all these crazy grabs
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: and 75 yards in the first quarter and stuff. And
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: all the touchdowns are just going to those guys once
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: they get up there. So I think that could definitely be.
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: thing as well hoop I'll go back to you man
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: anything on kickers and D's that you want to talk
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: about here specifically I will say it looks like Mivas
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: not just look like ownership looks very close but just
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: the way the lineup build goes it reminds you like
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: kind of like people see a a 4-1 and they
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: just close it out with a 5-1 because like it's
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: like in golf if somebody has all AM guys and
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: like I may as well just get another AM guy
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: in there just because it looks pretty I get a
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: 6 it's what I think people do with these roster
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: constructions or look to tell a story that way so
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: i think it's going to be mevis that gets a
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: little bit more love here but what's your thoughts hoop
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: at the kickers defenses anything else you want to add there.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Back to the the normal like where i like the
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: kickers and don't necessarily love the defenses uh the ownership.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: By the way last night the you know the guy
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: that never likes d said it's defense night and they
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: were damn good both sides there yeah.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: That d man that just overall just real football. That defense,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: that's impressive when you know you got the backup quarterback
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: in there and they go in there and dominate like that.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: Very impressive. I do think Rams are probably higher owned.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: We're showing that by a little. I think the gap
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: could widen a little bit just because people are going
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: to be excited that the Rams have Miles Garrett. So
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: I think that will increase their ownership a little bit
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: in the gap. We're showing like 3%. I think the
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: gap could be a little wider between the two. Not
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: a huge point, but But yeah, I love the kickers
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: too cheap. And then defenses, you know, not a ton.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: If I get some, I get some.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: All right. Title, do you got anything else you want
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: to add there?
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: I'm kickers over defenses today as well. But if the 49ers,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: which they are going to be, they're going to be
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 5: really low on when we need value. What do we
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: have when we have 12% when we need value? Because
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 5: Slate's has no value and everyone's going Ferguson in that
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 5: range or Parkinson or Corum for a little more or
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 5: the kickers.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: It just feels like the ultimate pivot.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: And we know random play one play a count return
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 5: or kick return a pick six like rant defense is
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: so random you have 48 minutes to get random points
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 5: so because they're 12% and I don't like value pivots
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 5: much I think I prefer them but in a vacuum
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: kickers look way better than defenses I think offenses move
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: the football today.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And I think people, yeah, too, like the one
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: thing is interesting and this is not that game certainly
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: at all, but like, and that's, it's not about being the,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: I was going to say about the Mexico game. It's
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: nothing to do with that at all. Not because it's international,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: different altitudes, all that just pointing out though. Um, I
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: remember that game and remember it was like 101 or
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: 103 points or something. people just naturally think defenses and
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: kickers mean like low scoring games. Like, Oh, it's going
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: to be all this firepower. This offense is like, there's
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: no way a D could be involved. It's like, Oh,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: that's when the D can also be involved. Cause there's
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: a lot of passing and a lot of things going on.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: So you could definitely see all of these guys be
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: in the mix. So I think no one's shying away
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: from playing them anyway. We're not saying anything revolutionary here.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: I'm just noting it because there's other ways that you
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: can go with your build. And these are also, some
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: of the values on the slate tonight. So just thinking
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: about it from that perspective, the way I look at
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: it working backwards is that's four values there. You got
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: Terrence Ferguson here, not much at ride receiver that people
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: are considering. And then you've got quorum and all of
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: that makes the rest of the stuff fit both quarterbacks,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: hookah Adams. And then of course, um, cmc so it's
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: like that's where it kind of plays out you probably
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: get williams like we said comes back a little because
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: of the quorum and cmc effect and the other guys
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: around williams like nikua and adams but there's you know
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: most of those guys like evans deboe stribling kittle they're
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: not going to get played much they're going to get
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: played but it's it's spread out on them and it's
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: not overall so um one last thing i have for
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: you title just before we you know let hoop look
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: at fan duel a little bit Any thoughts on– are
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: you in agreeance, I guess I would ask it this way,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: of like a 4-2-5-1 Rams build being super heavy tonight?
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: Does it look that way to you as well?
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, very much so, like even more than I initially expected.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 5: I think it really comes down to the value for
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 5: the Niners, even the mid-tier, like it's nonexistent. Every value
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: we've talked about, it's Corum, it's Ferguson, it's Parkinson. Like
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 5: you just don't have the options. If you're looking at
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: sub-5K plays on the Niners that you might get– that
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 5: we've talked about. Black, a backup running back behind McCaffrey
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 5: that might not even for sure be RB2. That's not comfortable.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: 3K is a real price. Juszczyk, $ 1, 400, like not great.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: Demarcus Robinson, $ 3, 800, probably not going to see the field much.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: The backup tight end in Tonges is $ 4, 400. So then
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: it leaves you with Pinero and the Niners defense. It's
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 5: going to be, yeah, I 100% see that. I think
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 5: 4-2 Rams will be more popular than even 3-3. And
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: I think 5-1 Rams will be relatively close to 3-3,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: probably not as popular, but I really think it comes
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 5: down to when people play the Niners, it's Purdy, it's McCaffrey,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 5: and then you're going to get to those receivers.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: But yeah, they're not low on.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: So I think the roster constructions, people are going to
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: go down the same path. So you at least know
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 5: that coming in.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: I wonder, Hoop, do you have anything, and we'll get
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: to Fanville in a second, but just now that, again,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: hear more titles saying and agree with all of it,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: it's also then I'm thinking about like these, how does
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: a McCaffrey captain lineup go? So you put McCaffrey in
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: the cap. I'm just talking through it here for a second.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: So that seems like it's going to be somewhat popular,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: but then what do they do with the rest.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: Of the lineup?
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you go probably one of the cheap tight ends
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: for sure. Ferguson output for now.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 5: The 1-5 McCaffrey will probably be as– I'm not saying
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: it's going to be popular, but of all 1-5 teams
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 5: that we see this year, it'll probably be the highest
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: owned with that being the one up top, I think.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: Yep. That'll happen. Typically just doing reviews on that type
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: of stuff. Uh, I know, I think you either, you
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: got really close. I think like third before with that
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: right title or something, you had, you had a one
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: five that got up there. I we've seen it enough times.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying don't do it in that. I'm just
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: from my back testing and looking at stuff. It's typically
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: really good in like a 200 or less field.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: You don't have to be perfect.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: Once you get up it's crazy though it is i
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: mean it is still easy it's like man you play
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: uh ferguson one of the kickers and then you're immediately
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: back to 8600 for your last three spots so it's
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: like really easy to to play legit looking christian mccaffrey
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: teams let me see.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: Here i'm not going to fill it all the way
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: out but you guys can do it yourself yeah you're
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: right It's something like this. It's like Purdy with him.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: So I would just say I'm looking at like combos.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: I think, again, as much as people may or may
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: not love certain ways of doing things, it's like he
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: is a check down option. It looks like you can
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 4: even take these two out for a second and have
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: almost 7K left. But it looks like it would probably
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: be people are comfortable with at least Purdy in there
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 4: and then they'll figure out what the rest looks like.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: So probably more. three, three, or even two, four.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: Than anything else.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: But that's kind of what the, the McCaffrey builds are
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: looking like going into the lotteries and such that people
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: are playing.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: I think that makes sense.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: I talked about it a little bit with like Stafford.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: I just think he's a better MVP play over there
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: than captain on DK, I actually like him, and he's
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: a little cheaper. What is he, 11-4? He's a little
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: cheaper than McCaffrey and Puka. Less value on FanDuel. We
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: talked about Blake Corum on DK. On FanDuel, he's 7,600,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: so he's all the way up there. The one guy
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: that is cheap is going to be very popular. Terrence
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: Ferguson is 2,600 on FanDuel, where Parkinson is 5,800. 5,800.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: So that's just like a beautiful tournament sort of flip
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: right there. Like, especially if you're playing like a Stafford
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: captain team and you just want to flip that because
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: if someone's playing one of these tight ends with Stafford,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: it's going to be Ferguson. $ 3, 200 more for Parkinson. Like
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: people aren't going to make that click. That's a perfect
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: tournament pivot situation before. Not much on the cheap end,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: like at all. You know, Higby's $ 3, 800. It's tough down there.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: Even where Debo is 7K, I believe, on DK, he's 8,600
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: on FanDuel. Just not many cheap plays on FanDuel, so
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: Ferguson's going to be very popular over there. But yeah,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: I think that's pretty much it. Kyron Williams, he's right
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: up there with Purdy. Purdy's 10-6, Kyron Williams 10-2. quarterbacks
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: definitely have an advantage over on, on FanDuel. So, you know,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: Kyron Williams is a guy that the ownership could come
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: down a little bit on because of that, that price tag.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: I still like him up top on, on FanDuel. Devante
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: Adams has a good price tag on FanDuel 9k. You know,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: he's got a lot of touchdown upside, so that's very appealing.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: But the main thing for sure is that the Ferguson 2600,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: I'd say mispriced really.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you also made a good call there, too.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: The MVP ownership gets so... We talked about this yesterday,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: for those who missed yesterday's Showdown Shippers show, but the
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: Adams touchdown equity and the Williams touchdown, that type of thing,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 4: where they just... Again, I think these ownerships come up
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: a little bit at MVP, but I'm just saying you
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: do see it over there where it's very heavily focused
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: on those big dogs. And remember, what we talked about
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: earlier with conditional and the combinatorial ownership is when you
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: see Christian McCaffrey and Puka... expensive but easy to get
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: in it's be it's very easy to get them in
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: because we flip over to flex like hoop said earlier,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: and you go down to 2600. You've got Ferguson with
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: like the same projected points almost as everybody. you know
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: 7600 or below he's projected for a similar number just
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: a point and a half less give or take of
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: quorum and you can play both together so you'll see
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: those lineups over there be a lot more popular because
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: of that and make it up top but you can
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: get like Adams in instead of Puka and get them
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 4: at like nothing and just fill it out with a
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: more balanced approach or something Yeah.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: It's that Kyron we have, it's going to be higher
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: than that, but we had it like between one and 2%.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: And you know, if that is accurate, like he's a phenomenal,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: phenomenal MVP play on a fan. What do we have?
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: We got to like get 2%. Like it's going to
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: be higher than that. But if it is low, like, man,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: he's got to be one of the best plays up
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: there on fan duel. And I like, I like Stafford,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: you know, we're showing 13% Stafford. I love that. Um,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: if he's going to be like the fourth highest zone
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: guy up top, I think he's a phenomenal play up
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: there on, on fan duel, but the kind of thing
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: definitely stands out.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: We got them a little light right now for sure,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: because our initial, but I agree with you. And that's
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: exactly what it is. Even if this goes to five, six, seven, eight,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: it's a, five to ten it's like he's still not
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: really owned on that site because everything else and then
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 4: it the other thing that i think people don't always
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: realize is like it's takes one to do another if
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 4: you go with puka up top let's just say who
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: we would expect to be popular and have 8200 left
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: you can get it back quick with a guy like
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: ferguson but also if you go with williams and then
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: start building like a more balanced build or another example
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: because you talked about it but just with davante Let's
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: say he kind of says he, you got 9,300. You
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  Speaker 4: could get a bit more of a balanced building, but
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  Speaker 4: you don't even have to put Puka in there if
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  Speaker 4: you don't want to. Cause now you could be saying, look, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: Puka is going to get some yardage, but it's mostly
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  Speaker 4: going to be Devante that gets the touchdowns in this build.
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  Speaker 3: And you might not even have to go to.
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  Speaker 4: A Ferguson down low, for example.
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  Speaker 3: So just, just pointing that out.
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  Speaker 4: I want to, I want to say that that's another
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  Speaker 4: thing to look at when you're doing this stuff, especially
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  Speaker 4: on these smaller showdown slates like this. So title, anything
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  Speaker 4: you saw that you want to add?
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  Speaker 2: No, it really comes down to the Ferguson.
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  Speaker 5: Terrence Ferguson might be 38% in the flex on FanDuel
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  Speaker 5: or something. I mean, just if you X him out
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  Speaker 5: or if I X him out in my flex, I'm
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  Speaker 5: already dropping two and a half points off the optimal,
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  Speaker 5: just Ferguson alone. And that just comes down to there's
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  Speaker 5: no other value really down there. So I do think
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  Speaker 5: overspending for Parkinson or Higby is pretty interesting just because
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  Speaker 5: they're going to play a lot of tight ends. It's
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  Speaker 5: almost direct leverage. If he's not doing anything you're hoping
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  Speaker 5: they do. Obviously, all three of them combust, so you
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  Speaker 5: can fade all tight ends and stuff. But if I
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  Speaker 5: am playing Ferguson in the flex, I'd probably look to
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  Speaker 5: get a little more different at MVP or at least
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  Speaker 5: do something to differentiate your lineups.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, I agree. I'm going to check quickly while we
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: wait here just the Shibbit games. How many people got
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  Speaker 4: into it so far? We put the link out earlier
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  Speaker 4: for members. If you guys aren't a member, you can
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  Speaker 4: go to shibbitnation.com and get in. Looks like we're pushing
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  Speaker 4: 250 now. So almost half full. But if you guys
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  Speaker 4: They will also be into the event next week where
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  Speaker 4: those three winners as well. Ultimately, at the end of
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  Speaker 4: the season, week one of the playoffs, the top 10
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  Speaker 3: Title, hoop, or any final thoughts from either of you
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  Speaker 3: guys before we get out of here?
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  Speaker 2: Let's just avoid the injuries.
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Agreed.
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  Speaker 4: That'd be a great idea for tonight. After how last
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  Speaker 4: night went, hopefully we can make it happen. I'll be
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: in the street sweating. You guys will know pretty quickly
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: how it goes. I'll keep you updated on the head-to-head.
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  Speaker 4: It looks like we're just getting it loaded here now.
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  Speaker 4: They're trying to send the link, but they're trying to
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  Speaker 4: charge us $ 37, 000 to enter. It says free, but they're
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 4: asking for $ 37, 500 to enter. So we're getting that solved
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  Speaker 4: as we speak.
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  Speaker 3: That's going to do it for this one, guys. Appreciate
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