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FSU Hoop Dreams · North Florida Sports Network Podcast

• 0:08
  Speaker 1: the North Florida sports network.
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• 0:47
  Speaker 1: Big game, basketball with hoops.
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: It was there.
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: A few years ago, For was there, but you know you just have been over for a while.
• 0:59
  Speaker 2: You don't have the talent man.
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: You don't have the talent, you don't have the talent.
• 1:04
  Speaker 2: You got some guy like listen, I like Taylor Bolbo and he's good.
• 1:08
  Speaker 2: Jalen Watkins Good.
• 1:11
  Speaker 2: There's some other guys that they recruited in sign that have been clear misses.
• 1:16
  Speaker 2: You know that are going to end up spending four or five years in the program that that really just.
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: You want to go back to the guys that you remember a few years ago.
• 1:29
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go back to the class.
• 1:31
  Speaker 1: You don't get to fucking relish.
• 1:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: In the the efforts of Forest or a you know, or anyone else, that was.
• 1:45
  Speaker 2: That's a long past, man.
• 1:46
  Speaker 2: Different, different time.
• 1:48
  Speaker 2: It's a different time.
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  Speaker 2: Back then, the recruiting class of Matthew Cleveland, jalen Warley, bryce McGowan and Bryce McGowan ended up flipping and ultimately signing with Nebraska.
• 2:03
  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: But that was the one that was very highly rated Right and netted you.
• 2:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know if Bob Mather was in that class or not, If he came a year later, but it deaded you effectively really nothing.
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: You know Cleveland now plays for Miami.
• 2:19
  Speaker 2: Mcgowan is doing whatever he does.
• 2:22
  Speaker 2: You know, I think he was a one and done in Nebraska.
• 2:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:27
  Speaker 2: Um just makes me warly, warly, continues to be allergic to being able to score points Like that.
• 2:35
  Speaker 2: That kid can get to the dish as easy as like Trent Forrest the way that he used to get to the rim Right, but he cannot finish, cannot, I feel about?
• 2:48
  Speaker 1: the field for him.
• 2:49
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean he's not getting any calls.
• 2:51
  Speaker 2: That's another thing Not getting a good forest got called Jalen Warley, is six seven and I think that works against him.
• 2:57
  Speaker 2: He gets no calls.
• 2:59
  Speaker 2: No but he also can't finish and that also works against him yeah.
• 3:04
  Speaker 2: It's just.
• 3:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, this roster is what it is at this point.
• 3:10
  Speaker 2: Um, it's not a tournament team.
• 3:13
  Speaker 2: Maybe the NIT, if they can start to turn things around.
• 3:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's been the three best.
• 3:21
  Speaker 2: That's what now like it's like please, god, hold on to the NIT, please, please, hold on and make the postseason that looks like a maybe yeah.
• 3:30
  Speaker 2: Hopefully it's just a matter of playing the three best teams in the ACC.
• 3:35
  Speaker 1: We'll see if the team gives up.
• 3:39
  Speaker 2: I don't think they'll give up.
• 3:40
  Speaker 1: No, I like this team.
• 3:41
  Speaker 1: I really do.
• 3:42
  Speaker 2: But you know, I mean.
• 3:45
  Speaker 1: I really like this team.
• 3:46
  Speaker 1: I like the effort.
• 3:47
  Speaker 1: I wish they were full strength the whole year.
• 3:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 3:51
  Speaker 1: You know, I think that would have helped their overall record.
• 3:53
  Speaker 1: But you know they do lack some of that Shooters man.
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: You know that some of that Shooters, yeah, some of that firepower.
• 4:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, I get it man Linked in defense and being able to switch on everybody is great when you have guys that are tall enough and can play those positions that can score.
• 4:19
  Speaker 2: On the other end, when you start sacrificing that like just to be able to play defense and be able to switch on your defense Like dude, get some guys that can make some shots.
• 4:33
  Speaker 2: Seriously, the jump shooting is like you know.
• 4:38
  Speaker 1: We have a guy like Ducat, a freshman.
• 4:41
  Speaker 2: Right and right Jared.
• 4:43
  Speaker 1: McKay A Duc record.
• 4:45
  Speaker 2: Hits eight threes in the first half.
• 4:46
  Speaker 2: Eight threes in the first half, didn't miss a shot in the first half and was you know, I mean he pretty much was the difference in the game.
• 4:54
  Speaker 2: I mean he was the difference in the game.
• 4:56
  Speaker 1: What do you mean?
• 4:56
  Speaker 1: Pretty much, yeah, there's no there's no question about it.
• 4:58
  Speaker 2: And that's the thing.
• 4:59
  Speaker 2: Like when have you ever seen a guy hit eight threes in a row and one half for Florida State?
• 5:08
  Speaker 2: It's been a long time I mean, maybe dolties back when he played against North Carolina here.
• 5:12
  Speaker 2: But you know like eventually you've got to get some kids that can shoot, that can make buckets.
• 5:20
  Speaker 2: Darren Green junior like I'm not calling him out, I'm just saying he'll give you two threes.
• 5:28
  Speaker 1: And that's it.
• 5:29
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 5:29
  Speaker 2: You know, like, like, if you're three, but that's what you were gonna get Right, and I've seen a post COVID and since desperate he used to not get respect to where he had it right before that.
• 5:46
  Speaker 2: Right and I think it's been a combo of you know.
• 5:49
  Speaker 2: He had some guys bounce early and leave the program.
• 5:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's why I heard so bad.
• 5:56
  Speaker 1: When it happened, little bit earlier than I think he expected, you peaked right at the worst time ever.
• 6:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when you could get nothing out of it.
• 6:05
  Speaker 2: The program peaked at the worst time ever when they had to shut down March Madness, they had to shut down the tournament.
• 6:12
  Speaker 2: The best team ever.
• 6:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been holding on desperate.
• 6:17
  Speaker 1: They've been trying to do the best they can.
• 6:20
  Speaker 2: Any minute.
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  Speaker 2: He missed on the recruiting class.
• 6:21
  Speaker 2: They missed on the recruiting class, but they've been trying, right, they've been trying.
• 6:26
  Speaker 1: And like, and now the like.
• 6:27
  Speaker 1: You're losing out.
• 6:28
  Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't.
• 6:29
  Speaker 1: Actual finances now.
• 6:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it wasn't you know.
• 6:33
  Speaker 2: Dennis Gates takes the head coaching job at Illinois state or Chicago state, whatever.
• 6:40
  Speaker 2: It is Illinois state, right?
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: Well, you're not gonna.
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: You're not gonna compete financially with the likes in this basketball.
• 6:48
  Speaker 2: Well, he loses.
• 6:49
  Speaker 2: He loses Gates and then he loses CY.
• 6:53
  Speaker 1: To Missouri.
• 6:54
  Speaker 2: Right, gates was going on, cy was still here, he was holding recruiting together, but then they both bounce and then you kind of see, like you know, you miss on that recruiting class, three big guard prospects and right now the the only thing you have left out of that is Jaylin Morley, and he's a guy he does everything for you consistently, consistently, night in, night out, everything except score points score points and at the guard position that's huge liability man, and, like I said, you saw who gets you 23 25 points.
• 7:35
  Speaker 2: Once is once or twice a year, but it might be a game that you're gonna lose by 10.
• 7:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that that's what you're gonna do is you're gonna you go talk to them.
• 7:53
  Speaker 2: You gonna be like, hey, man, maybe we just maybe just ride off in the sunset this year.
• 7:58
  Speaker 2: No, no, next year we go we tell Stan, hey, you know, this time next year we're gonna be playing golf.
• 8:05
  Speaker 2: Man, we're gonna be eating it at Golden Corral, somewhere nice, somewhere pleasant, maybe out there on the west coast Arizona dry, he's a stand yeah, that early chicken fried steak dinner real nice.
• 8:28
  Speaker 2: You let somebody else coach.
• 8:30
  Speaker 2: Man, I mean, him's done what he's had to do.
• 8:32
  Speaker 2: Man, it sucked at Kobe to hit.
• 8:36
  Speaker 2: I think they would have made a run.
• 8:38
  Speaker 2: Would they have actually done it?
• 8:40
  Speaker 2: Who knows?
• 8:41
  Speaker 2: I say yes, but I'm Jim Marino, I do too.
• 8:46
  Speaker 2: Man, nobody was stopping shrimp forest.
• 8:48
  Speaker 2: That dude like you.
• 8:50
  Speaker 2: Go to the lane, he's get.
• 8:51
  Speaker 2: He's getting the bucket.
• 8:52
  Speaker 2: Might as well, just let him score.
• 8:55
  Speaker 2: It is in.
• 8:56
  Speaker 2: And one machine ugly is three-point shot I've ever seen in my life.
• 9:01
  Speaker 2: But who cares?
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: He didn't need a three-point shot.
• 9:04
  Speaker 2: There's man, and his cousin was ampley, played for the 49ers and the Knowles.
• 9:11
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 9:13
  Speaker 2: Chiply Florida, ah, sucks, whoops, there it was.
• 9:24
  Speaker 2: Man, whoops, there it was.
• 9:26
  Speaker 2: Well, we won't tell you that Jim Marino got the face of a Duke fan.
• 9:35
  Speaker 2: You know why, ladies, gentlemen, that is solves your bad.
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: Wow, I know the guitar you charge next time.
• 10:24
  Speaker 2: Where?
• 10:24
  Speaker 2: North Florida Sports Network baby.