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Think There's Nothing You Can Do About Arthritis In Your Joints? Think Again. · Conversations: Special Guests with Preston Scott

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  Speaker 1: Welcome friends, our number three morning show with Prestin Scott
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  Speaker 1: Show fifty five thirty two. But who's counting? Oh well
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  Speaker 1: I am that's O say over there at Studio one A.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Aaron Studio one B, and I'm back in studio
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  Speaker 1: with a good friend. Chad Gray is co founder of
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  Speaker 1: Jointstrong dot com. And We've had Chad on a couple
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  Speaker 1: times over the years and we work together. I've worked
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  Speaker 1: with Chad on a personal level on a lot of
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  Speaker 1: different challenges that I've faced. As I'm aging, hello, sir,
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  Speaker 1: how are.
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  Speaker 2: You good morning? Doing well? How are you today?
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing good. You know, it seems like I can't
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  Speaker 1: run into many people without finding somebody that isn't talking
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  Speaker 1: about a knee replacement, a hip replacement. There's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of replacement surgery going on. What's going on? Why are
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  Speaker 1: so many people having this done?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we've seen a remarkable increase and the frequency of
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  Speaker 3: these procedures, especially in the under fifty five year old crowd.
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  Speaker 2: Really in the last decade.
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  Speaker 3: When I first started out in this profession, I'm in
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  Speaker 3: the physical therapy profession, it was unheard of to see
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  Speaker 3: somebody under the age of sixty with a hip or
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  Speaker 3: knee replacement, and now that's become almost kind of the standard.
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  Speaker 2: Of the norm.
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  Speaker 3: The challenge really comes down to this, and if you
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  Speaker 3: look at around society and our culture, especially in the
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  Speaker 3: westernized parts of the world, we've changed our movement patterns.
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  Speaker 2: We don't move naturally anymore.
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  Speaker 3: As I say sometimes in the clinic, you go to
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  Speaker 3: other kind of less industrialized, less westernized portions of the world.
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  Speaker 3: They still squat, they still kneel, they still lift and
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  Speaker 3: strain and climb and push and pull, and they move
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  Speaker 3: in ways we don't move here in our country. The
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  Speaker 3: vast majority of positions and jobs are sitting jobs. You're
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  Speaker 3: sitting in a chair all day long. You're not moving,
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  Speaker 3: you're not stressing, you're not loading the joint systems to
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  Speaker 3: their endpoints. And over time that has a constant the
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  Speaker 3: failure to move the joint system to the end of
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  Speaker 3: its range emotion, especially under load, because the hip and
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  Speaker 3: the knee are load bearing joints. They're designed to be
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  Speaker 3: compressed and then designed to be bent or hinged or
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  Speaker 3: moved to their endpoints. And when you don't do that,
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  Speaker 3: stiffness ensues and sets in. And when stiffness sets into
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  Speaker 3: a joint system, it alters the mechanics of that joint.
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  Speaker 3: It alters the loading that's put through the articular cartilage,
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  Speaker 3: the smooth, silky stuff that allows us to easily move
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  Speaker 3: without discomfort or strain. Those cartilage get soft, and then
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  Speaker 3: they begin to degrade and break down when they aren't
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  Speaker 3: loaded or stressed and moved once again to their endpoints.
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  Speaker 3: And what is everybody doing nowadays as a profession? You know,
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  Speaker 3: the vast majority of us are sitting in chairs all
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  Speaker 3: day long in front of screens. We get done sitting
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  Speaker 3: in front of screens all day long at work, we
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  Speaker 3: go home, we sit in front of other screens, our phones,
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  Speaker 3: our televisions, iPads or tablets, and all of a sudden
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  Speaker 3: you look up and you go, wow, I've spent the
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  Speaker 3: vast majority of the last decade or two or three
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  Speaker 3: of my working life not moving, not loading the joint systems,
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  Speaker 3: not doing what they were intended to do. And as
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  Speaker 3: a result of that, they get stiff, they start to
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  Speaker 3: wear out, and they start to become painful as a
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  Speaker 3: result of that. And then, of course, the natural decision
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  Speaker 3: at that point becomes, well, let me just go in
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  Speaker 3: and take it out of there and put a new one.
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  Speaker 1: It before that happens. What I'm noticing happens because you
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  Speaker 1: and I have had some brutally candid conversations about myself,
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  Speaker 1: and one of the things I noticed happening to me
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  Speaker 1: was that I would start compensating for being uncomfortable doing
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  Speaker 1: certain things, and that made things worse.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, we're master compensators.
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  Speaker 3: I mean we can adapt and change how we move
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  Speaker 3: if we can't perform the normal functions or movements of
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  Speaker 3: the joint systems. So if I can't squat anymore with
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  Speaker 3: my knees because they've gotten stuff, they won't let me
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  Speaker 3: get there anymore, then my remedy is, well, I'll just
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  Speaker 3: bend at the waist. I'll lean over and lift from
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  Speaker 3: the ground with my hands without bending.
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  Speaker 2: Money is that much?
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  Speaker 3: And then ultimately what that does is it puts additional stress.
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  Speaker 2: On the lower back.
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  Speaker 3: Next thing, you know, you've got to earn needed disk in
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  Speaker 3: the lower back as a result of that poor mechanics.
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  Speaker 1: It just gradually gets worse and worse and worse. Correct
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  Speaker 1: joints that start going south. Joining me Chad Gray of
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  Speaker 1: jointstrong dot Com and the progression of what we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about leads to a very common malady in our culture. Arthritis, right, ye.
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  Speaker 3: Most common condition I think we have in the face
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  Speaker 3: of the earth, especially once again in the westernized parts
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  Speaker 3: of the world. The frequency of that diagnosis is, you know,
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  Speaker 3: skyrocketed in the last few decades of our existence. Arthritic
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  Speaker 3: changes in the joint are you know, a big challenge
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  Speaker 3: for most of our population over the age of thirty
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  Speaker 3: five or forty.
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  Speaker 1: Now, are there is fact and fiction myth versus reality.
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  Speaker 1: Are people predisposed to have arthritis because of the family tree?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 3: No, the condition itself. Once again, we kind of understand
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  Speaker 3: from the science clearly. Now the problem lies in the
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  Speaker 3: fact that we don't do two things well. We don't
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  Speaker 3: once again, move to endpoint in the joint systems. We
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  Speaker 3: don't keep the joint limber and loose. The ligaments that
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  Speaker 3: support and hold the joint together have to be fully
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  Speaker 3: stressed and loaded to their endpoint for them to remain
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  Speaker 3: elastic and supple.
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  Speaker 1: Can you define endpoint for our listeners? What is in
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  Speaker 1: the end point?
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  Speaker 3: Grab your finger bended all the way back as far
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  Speaker 3: as it will go. When you feel that strain at
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  Speaker 3: the end of the movement, that kind of strain pain
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  Speaker 3: if you will, Yeah, that's endpoint, okay, And that endpoint
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  Speaker 3: can change.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, over time.
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  Speaker 1: I was going to say that endpoint can almost diagnose.
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  Speaker 3: It diagnoses quite effectively. Actually, we do this clinic all
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  Speaker 3: the time. We look at the range of motion, of
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  Speaker 3: the quality of movement in that joint system, how much
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  Speaker 3: mobility is there, how much is restricted or limited compared
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  Speaker 3: to say a norm. And what you will see in
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  Speaker 3: almost every episode we meet in the clinic is there
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  Speaker 3: is a loss of movement that generally precedes the onset
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  Speaker 3: of the pain. And it is the defining characteristic of
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  Speaker 3: the arthritis, the loss of mobility in the joint system.
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  Speaker 3: It is what creates the pain in the ache.
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  Speaker 2: There are three.
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  Speaker 3: Changes that occur within arthritic joint. You get thinning of
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  Speaker 3: the cartilage, you get a little bit of spurring, and
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  Speaker 3: some additional bone growth around the perimeter edge of the joint.
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  Speaker 3: Those two changes, by the way, are easily spotted on
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  Speaker 3: X ray, but they're painless. They've been classified by most
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  Speaker 3: of medicine as the reason for the ache and the pain.
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  Speaker 3: But the science is abundantly clear on this. Now that
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  Speaker 3: is not what causes the pain. The thinning of the cartilage,
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  Speaker 3: the wearing down of the cartilage, and the spurring around
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  Speaker 3: the joint is not a painful episode or symptom. The
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  Speaker 3: thing that causes the pain is the gradual shortening and
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  Speaker 3: then adaptation of the ligamentostructures around the joint. When they
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  Speaker 3: stiffen or fibrose, they do two things. They limit motion
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  Speaker 3: of the joint system. They will change your endpoints, and
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  Speaker 3: they create remarkable pain because that's the primary structure that
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  Speaker 3: has all the nerves apply in it around the joint system.
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  Speaker 3: The interior of the joint, the cartilage, the structures inside
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  Speaker 3: the joint system, the bone don't have nerve ending in them.
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  Speaker 3: The nerve ending lies in the ligament, the capsules, the
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  Speaker 3: synovial membranes that surround and encapsulate the joint and hold
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  Speaker 3: the joint together. Those structures are highly innervated with nerve
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  Speaker 3: and when they get stiff and then they get stressed
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  Speaker 3: or loaded, they ache. That's the ache and the pain
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  Speaker 3: of arthritis. It is not the interior of the joint
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  Speaker 3: that's causing that, unless you've gotten too a situation where
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  Speaker 3: there's just dramatic dramatic bone on bone changes that have happened.
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  Speaker 1: True or false, Well, you just you're getting older, and
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  Speaker 1: so you're just gonna lose some flexible ability and ability
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  Speaker 1: to move the way that you once did.
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  Speaker 2: Faults.
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  Speaker 3: It only happens because we let it. It happens because
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  Speaker 3: we live in a world where we only move through
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  Speaker 3: our middle range of motion. Okay, we can get up
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  Speaker 3: from a chair, we can walk to the car, walk
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  Speaker 3: to the office, walk to the house, walk around the community,
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  Speaker 3: lay back down, get in the bed, and only access
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  Speaker 3: about fifty percent of our range of motion in the
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  Speaker 3: large joint systems the hip, the knee, in the ankle,
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  Speaker 3: those joint systems, over time, if they are not approaching
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  Speaker 3: once again those end points of movement, then those passive
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  Speaker 3: support structures, the ligaments begin to shorten and stiffen and
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  Speaker 3: produce the ache that's so associated with arthritis.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just for the sake of we got a minute
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  Speaker 1: left here, let's go back to that finger example where
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  Speaker 1: you say you grab your finger and you find that endpoint.
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  Speaker 1: How do you know when the end point is what
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  Speaker 1: it really ought to be versus what it is.
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  Speaker 3: It shouldn't hurt to go there. Other than just the
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  Speaker 3: strain of being at the end. Okay, if you have
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  Speaker 3: pain associated with reaching your end point, then they're there's
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  Speaker 3: a change in that structure that needs to be addressed
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  Speaker 3: with end range mobility or stress. It needs to be
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  Speaker 3: strained or pushed on at that point until you change
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  Speaker 3: it back to normal. And these tissues change, they reverse themselves.
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  Speaker 3: They will fibrose and scar in if you let them so.
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  Speaker 3: If you just keep your finger still long enough and
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  Speaker 3: don't move it. We all know what happens against stuck.
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  Speaker 3: But I can take that same finger and just engage it,
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  Speaker 3: push it aggressively to its endpoints, and I'll reverse that
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  Speaker 3: stiffness over the course.
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  Speaker 2: Of just a few weeks.
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  Speaker 3: In most cases, the hip, in the knee and the
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  Speaker 3: ank will have that same characteristic ability to reverse or
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  Speaker 3: to change. Once the ligaments tightened, the joint capsules stiffen
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  Speaker 3: and fibrose.
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  Speaker 2: If I'll apply load.
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  Speaker 3: To those structures consistently over time, that stiffness, that fibrosis
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  Speaker 3: and scaring will reverse itself.
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  Speaker 1: It is jointstrong dot com and you go to that
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  Speaker 1: website and you're going to get some information and the
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  Speaker 1: opportunity obviously to get some help that is guided and
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  Speaker 1: one of the things that you know, Chad told years ago,
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  Speaker 1: he said, honest and truly, I'm trying to put myself
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  Speaker 1: out of business. You're trying to help people help themselves.
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  Speaker 2: Correct.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, most of this is easily preventable if we just
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  Speaker 3: know exactly what to do.
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  Speaker 1: And that's kind of been your mission, is to teach people,
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  Speaker 1: and so I don't always, I don't often see you
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  Speaker 1: for the same thing more than a few times. You
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  Speaker 1: teach me what I need to know, and then I
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  Speaker 1: apply it. It's I was telling you earlier, I haven't
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  Speaker 1: had a low back problem since you and I dealt
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  Speaker 1: with that years and years ago, because the lower back.
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  Speaker 1: You said, here's what you do when you start feeling this.
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  Speaker 1: Be very intentional about this, that and the other. Now
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  Speaker 1: we're talking today about the load on joints that are
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  Speaker 1: being impacted by arthritis. What can people do.
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  Speaker 3: So the remedy for this the you know, once again
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  Speaker 3: to speak to the science here, it's abundantly clear when
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  Speaker 3: carlage is loaded. You know, the knee and the hip
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  Speaker 3: and the ankle are considered load bearing joints. When that
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  Speaker 3: carlage is loaded and compressed and move through large range
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  Speaker 3: of motion to its endpoints. As we mentioned earlier in
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  Speaker 3: the segment, that compression and that loading through full motion.
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  Speaker 2: Creates a healthy articular cartilage.
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  Speaker 3: That's what promotes the release of certain proteins within the
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  Speaker 3: joint system on top of the carlage that makes the
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  Speaker 3: movement smooth, lubricated, low friction. Low friction environments of course,
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  Speaker 3: decrease wear and tear on these joint systems. So movement
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  Speaker 3: is the best medicine for these things. Movement to the
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  Speaker 3: endpoints underload in the ankle, knee, and hip joint promote
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  Speaker 3: a healthy articular cartilage, a cartilage that has the ability
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  Speaker 3: to regenerate itself, even in cases where I've had remarkable
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  Speaker 3: changes go on. When I load and compress and move
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  Speaker 3: through full motion, the expression of very healthy chemical environments
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  Speaker 3: happen within that joint system, and that's what promotes a normal,
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  Speaker 3: healthy joint system. That loading, that compression, that movement to endpoint,
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  Speaker 3: those things have to be applied at regular intervals throughout
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  Speaker 3: our day to stay healthy throughout life. If we stop
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  Speaker 3: doing that at any point, those systems begin to break down.
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  Speaker 3: A high friction environment begins to develop when movement loss
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  Speaker 3: starts to creep into the system, abnormal loading begins to occur.
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  Speaker 3: Those proteins that lubricate the joint system aren't released as
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  Speaker 3: readily anymore. When cartilage is not being compressed all day
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  Speaker 3: long because you're sitting in a chair, that cartlage begins
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  Speaker 3: to not express or release those lubricating mechanisms any longer,
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  Speaker 3: and a thin layer of what's called panas begins to
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  Speaker 3: develop on the joint system and the carlage starts to
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  Speaker 3: wear out quickly. It starts to erode and break down,
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  Speaker 3: and that's when you start to get into your bone
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  Speaker 3: on bone circumstances or situations. So this is why you
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  Speaker 3: see such a dramatic move preston towards standing workstations. Now
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  Speaker 3: a lot of your state agencies are moving people out
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  Speaker 3: of chairs and putting them into the standing position because
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  Speaker 3: we know now that that position has the greatest benefit
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  Speaker 3: to the joint systems. Takes people out of those postures
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  Speaker 3: and positions that are unhealthy for the cartilage. They're unhealthy
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  Speaker 3: for the lower back specifically. You know, sitting is the
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  Speaker 3: new smoking, as they say, and we know that now
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  Speaker 3: because of all the science surrounding how we keep things
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  Speaker 3: healthy versus how they're breaking down traditionally now in our
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  Speaker 3: types of societies.
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  Speaker 1: And clinically, you're seeing this because you're seeing young people
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  Speaker 1: for things that you never had seen them before. Because
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  Speaker 1: it goes back to the whole video game phone, you know,
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  Speaker 1: sitting at laptops and tablets.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we have an entire culture now, starting at the
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  Speaker 3: age of eight, that's been trained to sit in front
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  Speaker 3: of a phone, a TV screen playing video games. When
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  Speaker 3: they go to college, they sit in front of more
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  Speaker 3: screens to study and prepare for classes and their education.
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  Speaker 3: And then they get out of college and go into
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  Speaker 3: a job or whether they do all day long, they
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  Speaker 3: sit and they don't load, they don't compress, they don't
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  Speaker 3: move the joint systems to the endpoint. And then we
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  Speaker 3: wonder why we're all getting stiff, stuck, can't move well,
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  Speaker 3: and we ache and hurt as we get older. And
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  Speaker 3: it's happening at an earlier, in earlier age because we
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  Speaker 3: are now introducing those types of situations at an earlier
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  Speaker 3: and earlier age.
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  Speaker 1: You're sitting there right now listening to us. More than
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  Speaker 1: likely almost all of you are sitting somewhere listening to us,
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  Speaker 1: even if it's just you're driving in the car. I
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  Speaker 1: get it. You're not driving standing up. I understand, not yet.
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  Speaker 2: At least, we're.
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  Speaker 1: Gonna give you some tips, some things to think about
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  Speaker 1: doing as you go through your day, and how often
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  Speaker 1: you should do them, and the different parts of the
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  Speaker 1: body you should be focused on. I'm guessing he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: say something like everything that moves, but that's just me
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  Speaker 1: as the sage talk show host that I am guessing
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  Speaker 1: trying to make your life better, not necessarily easier, but
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  Speaker 1: we're going to simplify things here. In just second, we're
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  Speaker 1: talking with Chad Gray of joint Strong the website again
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  Speaker 1: jointstrong dot com and Chad as we talked about most
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  Speaker 1: everybody listening right now sitting. Yes, that's just and it's
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  Speaker 1: not a sin, unavoidable, right, it's part of life. But
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  Speaker 1: what are things that everybody listening and I think we
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  Speaker 1: can safely say now, regardless of.
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  Speaker 3: Age, regardless of age, regardless of activity level, there are
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  Speaker 3: a few key movements, functional movements, I'll call them, that
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  Speaker 3: need to be performed on a regular basis. We're designed
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  Speaker 3: to actually move this way. I mean, if you study
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  Speaker 3: the design, look at the functional design, of the leg,
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  Speaker 3: and you can figure out exactly what's supposed to do.
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  Speaker 3: I've got a bendable hinge in the middle of that
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  Speaker 3: long leg. Okay, it's designed to bend fully. It's designed
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  Speaker 3: to squat. I mean that's what we're made to do.
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  Speaker 3: To squat down all the way to the ground. That
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  Speaker 3: is the resting position. That is the natural human sitting position.
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  Speaker 1: Onder the ball of your feet, or on the flat
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  Speaker 1: of your foot, the flat of your foot.
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  Speaker 3: Some people can't get onto the flat of their foot
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  Speaker 3: because they don't have enough lenk in the achilles tendon anymore, right,
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  Speaker 3: the ankle to let them get there? Is it?
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  Speaker 1: Okay to start at the ball?
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  Speaker 3: Okay to start there and progress to the flat of
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  Speaker 3: the fokka.
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  Speaker 2: But squat, squat?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, look, go down to the Amazon rainforest and
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  Speaker 3: study the tribes that live down there, and look at
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  Speaker 3: how they sit, socialize, go to the bathroom, eat their
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  Speaker 3: dinner and food. Look at what position they're in. They're
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  Speaker 3: always squatted. They're down comfortably sitting there, hanging out, and
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  Speaker 3: they can sit there for days, literally without a worry.
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  Speaker 3: You ask ten people in this society to squat, and
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  Speaker 3: they look at you like you've got a third eye
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  Speaker 3: in the middle of your head because they already know
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  Speaker 3: they can't get there and it hurts too darn bad
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  Speaker 3: to try it.
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  Speaker 1: And they might be able to get there, but then
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  Speaker 1: those that can might not get back up.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, it's like, well, I could probably get there.
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  Speaker 3: Gravity's going to help me, but am I going to
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  Speaker 3: be able to push myself back up out of a position?
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  Speaker 3: And once again, that's a byproduct of not going there
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  Speaker 3: often enough to develop the range of motion and the
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  Speaker 3: strength and power to execute it.
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  Speaker 1: With before we go to another joint part of the body.
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  Speaker 1: To the person that's out there listening, because I would
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  Speaker 1: either that the majority of people cannot do what you're
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  Speaker 1: talking about.
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  Speaker 3: If I lined up ten out of the gym clinic,
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  Speaker 3: the businesses we've got right now, once again, I'll find
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  Speaker 3: two that might be able to do it, regardless of age.
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  Speaker 2: At this point, which is the frightening part.
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  Speaker 1: So what is the smart way to get to that point?
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  Speaker 1: If you can't get there?
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  Speaker 3: Initially, stand at the kitchen countertop, grab the sink, hold
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  Speaker 3: on tight, drop down as far as you can go
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  Speaker 3: and get to that endpoint wherever it may be for you.
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  Speaker 3: Some people can make it to about ninety degrees of
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  Speaker 3: nee bend, and other people can get almost all the
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  Speaker 3: way to the ground or the floor right.
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  Speaker 2: But every day.
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  Speaker 3: Make sure that you go to that extreme of movement
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  Speaker 3: as many times a day as you can plug.
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  Speaker 1: In, and then event you will then get further before
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  Speaker 1: you know it.
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  Speaker 3: Over time, you'll gradually gain movement as you stress and
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  Speaker 3: load the systems that way.
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  Speaker 2: Is it important to adapt?
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Is it important to stress and load a little further?
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  Speaker 1: And if so, how soon?
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  Speaker 2: When it gives it to you, you take it?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, When you reach the point where it feels siff
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  Speaker 3: and it's a little achy, you move past that slightly.
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  Speaker 3: You engage that discomfort, that strain, pain, a little bit
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  Speaker 3: at a time until it starts to break down and
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  Speaker 3: let go and give you more and more and more,
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  Speaker 3: and you take what it's giving and you keep engaging
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  Speaker 3: it and pushing it and encouraging it to go further,
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  Speaker 3: further and further. Next part of the body back, hip, hip, knee,
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  Speaker 3: ankle load bearing joints need to be stressed and loaded
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  Speaker 3: with a functional squat. Lower back needs full extension, it
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  Speaker 3: needs backwards bending. What do we do all day long
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  Speaker 3: three to five thousand times we flex or bend forward,
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  Speaker 3: especially once again with our sitting population. When you're sitting,
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  Speaker 3: you're in what's called physiological flexion. You are slouched in
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  Speaker 3: your lower back, so your spine stays bent or flexed forward.
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  Speaker 2: All day long.
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  Speaker 3: It rarely ever goes in the opposite direction to the
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  Speaker 3: terminal point or the endpoint of movement. With what's called
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: extension or backwards bending, you need to apply lumbar extension
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  Speaker 3: or low back extension, hip knee and ankle en range movement,
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  Speaker 3: under load squat accomplishes a fair bit of that. Those
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  Speaker 3: things need to be happening every single day of your life.
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  Speaker 3: Multiple times are multiple rounds per day to keep those
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  Speaker 3: systems optimally working the way they were mechanically designed and
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  Speaker 3: built to work.
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  Speaker 1: To the person working in an office today, that means
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  Speaker 1: taking your breaks and your lunch hours, and even sneaking
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  Speaker 1: one in here and there as often as possible.
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  Speaker 2: You've got it.
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  Speaker 3: Walking is not enough. Walking is a quarter to mid
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  Speaker 3: range movement. You do not move the joint systems that
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: much when you walk. You load them, but you don't
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  Speaker 3: move them much. So you've got to take periodic points
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  Speaker 3: in time during the day where you execute the full squat,
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  Speaker 3: the full motion, the full backbend consistently and often, so
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  Speaker 3: these changes are not allowed to happen to us.
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  Speaker 1: Time flies when you're trying to help people through their
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: aches and pains. But when you're getting through your aches
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: and pains, it slows down a little bit. Friends, I'm
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: going to tell you that it does.
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  Speaker 2: But it's okay.
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  Speaker 1: The expression no pain, no gain really does have some validity.
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  Speaker 3: To it in this circumstances. Absolutely, no. Yeah, that slogan
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  Speaker 3: came about for a reason. We know that when things
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: get stiff, there's only one way to make them better.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, oh, I take somebody who's just come out
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: of a cast because they broke their arm. You know,
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: when they come out of that cast, they're stuck in stiff.
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  Speaker 3: What do you do to them? You stress it, you
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  Speaker 3: load it, you move it consistently, and all of a sudden,
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: a few weeks later and the elbow straightens out again.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: You know that was a painful situation. Pain was necessary
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: in that circumstance. Well, the same type of pain is
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: necessary here when joint system stiffen and lose mobility. If
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: I don't push to the point where they hurt, and
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: then try to engage even beyond that. I will never
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: change these tissues, these structures.
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  Speaker 1: You said something to me years ago that has stood
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  Speaker 1: with me and stayed with me, and it is, if
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: you maintain the health of your back, you will have
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: the flexibility at eighty that you had when you were eight.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: You will never lose a degree of range of motion
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  Speaker 3: as long as you ask it to be there.
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  Speaker 2: It's that simple. If I push that.
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  Speaker 3: Joint system to its endpoints every day, regardless of my age,
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  Speaker 3: I will never lose one degree of mobility.
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  Speaker 1: That is exciting news for a lot of people that
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: that's possible. And that's the thing that you have seen clinically.
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  Speaker 1: The data shows you it's possible.
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  Speaker 3: Jose said, it's possible. The information of the science is clear.
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  Speaker 3: Our outcomes and the evidence we've gathered through the clinic
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  Speaker 3: make it abundantly clear to us. Movement is the best medicine.
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  Speaker 3: It's not even close. It's the literal drop Mike moment.
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  Speaker 3: We know that engaging these joint systems to their endpoints,
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: maintaining mobility is how we maintain a quality of life
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: as we age your independence as an older person is
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: directly linked to how.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Well you move void. No kidding, If you.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Can't get up out of the chair, your life is
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: no longer worth living. And the most common reason people
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: can't get out of the chair is their back, their hip,
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: and their knee and their ankle won't let them anymore.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: We've addressed a lot of the big joint issues. What
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: about arms, shoulders, and hands and fingers, You.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Get to smattering of those coming through the clinic. The
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: vast majority of things happen, you know, from the lower
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: back down, but the shoulder and the elbow and the
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: wrist in hand to show up fairly often once again,
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: end range movement of the fingers specifically, you know, you've
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: seen the folks who kind of develop the stiff looking right,
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: you know, craggly looking fingers as I call it, sometimes
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: the nodules on the finger. All of that is a
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: byproduct of the stiffening and the hardening of those passive
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: support structures I mentioned earlier, the ligaments, and your failure
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: to move those joints through their to their end points,
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: their terminal movements. The elbow needs to be straightened to
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: full extension of the elbow. Shoulder needs functional internal rotation
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: behind the back, your hand behind your back, the chicken
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: wing position. Yeah, if I call as I call it,
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: you know, put your brother in the old chicken wing
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: every now and then they're going to do what you
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: want them to do.
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  Speaker 1: One of my least favorite things to do to myself
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  Speaker 1: got to.
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  Speaker 2: Be able to go there.
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  Speaker 3: That is a functional movement that is a requirement for
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: maintaining overhead flexion or extension of the shoulder. You can't
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: lift overhead unless you can internally rotate the shoulder behind
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  Speaker 3: the back.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Let's talk real quickly. We got about a minute or
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  Speaker 1: so left. Some things that you're doing within the community
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  Speaker 1: here of the capital city, some classes and things that
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: are helping people.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So we took the clinical experience we had and we
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: invested in trying to deploy a solution based upon the
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: data we gathered in the clinic into the community.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Where was a platform that we could.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Build and integrate all this stuff we had learned, all
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: the things that the science were saying were necessary to
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: keep us healthy and happy as we aged. Where could
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: we put that in our And our thought was, let's
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: buy a gym. We bought a gym in the middle
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: of the southward community called town Center Fitness, and inside
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: of that gym, we we integrated physical therapy into the
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: platform as a tool for those who can't kind of
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: manage their stuff with self care protocols. But we also
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: trained trainers to understand and know the basic needs of
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: the community from a joint perspective. We trained trainers to
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: be able to understand those needs and execute them in
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: personal training platforms and our classes that we perform. Now,
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: we've got a Joint Strong Function class for seniors over
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: the age of sixty or so that focuses primarily on
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: in range mobility, the key joint systems we mentioned earlier,
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: focuses on balance and coordination. It focuses on all the
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: right things to stay healthy, yeah, stay active, and to
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: stay happy and pain free as you age. All those
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: classes are programmed into that gym platform.
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  Speaker 2: Now outside of our clinical.
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  Speaker 1: Platform, can they find it through Joint Strong.
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  Speaker 3: It's all on the Joint Strong platform. You can find
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: our clinics, you can find the gym. You can find
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: access to all the information you need for all of
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: our services and all of our systems on that website.
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  Speaker 1: Told you we'd help you feel better and maintain your flexibility,
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  Speaker 1: which is vital as you age. You know this, you
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: know this. Thanks for coming in, Thank you appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: Chad Gray, it's Jointstrong dot com again. Jointstrong dot com