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Azzurri risk missing out on ANOTHER World Cup! Ep. 287 · The Calcio Guys

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  Speaker 1: I've seen this one. I've seen this one. This is
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  Speaker 1: a classic.
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  Speaker 2: This is where Ralph versus up as a man from space.
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean you've seen this? It's brand new.
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  Speaker 3: Shit. Here we go again, guys. Coulture, guys, Johnny M. Nicholas.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not just saying here we go again in another
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  Speaker 3: week of the culture.
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  Speaker 1: Guys.
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  Speaker 3: It's another playoffs for Italy. It feels like it's rinse
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  Speaker 3: and repeat. Not surprised, I think at the end of
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  Speaker 3: the day that they they're in the playoffs. We obviously
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  Speaker 3: knew there was a chance, but disappointed none. Nonetheless, I
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  Speaker 3: think disappointed in the way that they played on Sunday
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  Speaker 3: against Norway. Unfortunately, with a home World Cup it's becoming
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  Speaker 3: a real possibility now that Italy is not in it.
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  Speaker 3: I mean home World Cup for us guys, as much
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  Speaker 3: as you know, we want to see the nzuity in
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  Speaker 3: it when they're in our own backyard, but we have
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  Speaker 3: to wait till March, another four months away. But couch
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  Speaker 3: you guys. You can follow us on all your favorite
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  Speaker 3: know what, guys, how you doing.
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  Speaker 2: Not bad? Kind, busy with life, but that's helping me
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  Speaker 2: out with the with this type of situation you, Adrian.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm okay. Feeling a bit under the weather the
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  Speaker 1: last couple of days, but had some nice egg plunk
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  Speaker 1: on me John and earlier tonight, so it kind of
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  Speaker 1: boosted them arale a bit, even though this Italy is
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  Speaker 1: is is giving us more nightmares than uh than than dreams.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm happy to be back talking talking cultural
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  Speaker 1: Unfortunately it's on this matter, but I want to talk
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  Speaker 1: about didn't cant wait to get going.
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  Speaker 3: So obviously we saw the last last two matches of
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  Speaker 3: the World Cup qualifiers on Thursday. They beat Moldova to
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  Speaker 3: nothing goals late for Espositoe and Manchini, followed by a
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  Speaker 3: four to one loss of the Sansio, a stadium that
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  Speaker 3: we've always talked about brings bad luck to the Azuti,
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  Speaker 3: A game that started off well with a goal from
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  Speaker 3: spose To and then finished not so well four straight
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  Speaker 3: goals from Norway to put it to bed. Not that
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  Speaker 3: didn't matter much, but more for pride, you know, just
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  Speaker 3: the fact that Norway beat US twice by three goals
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  Speaker 3: margin each time it makes it look even worse. It
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  Speaker 3: goes to show Norway was the better team in the group.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to hear no complaints about the format
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  Speaker 3: and this and that. Like Norway was the better team.
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  Speaker 3: They won all six games or all eight games, and
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  Speaker 3: they got the points they deserved. First World Cups in
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  Speaker 3: ninety eight, they deserve it. Kudos to Norway. But for Italy,
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  Speaker 3: I obviously I had a Personally, I didn't like the
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  Speaker 3: way they played in these two games, especially the game
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  Speaker 3: on Thursday. I was really not a fan of it.
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  Speaker 3: Felt like they already had their minds on Sunday, but
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  Speaker 3: they really had an opportunity on Thursday to make up
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  Speaker 3: that goal diffrench and to go out and only score
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  Speaker 3: two goals against Moldova late in an uninspiring game. I
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  Speaker 3: get it. It was, you know, an opponent that was playing.
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  Speaker 3: They're playing defensively the whole time they had. They had
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  Speaker 3: nothing to play for themselves, but the fact that they
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  Speaker 3: left it so late, and if Italy drew, that would
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  Speaker 3: have been it. That would have been it, nor we
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  Speaker 3: would have qualified. Sunday would have meant nothing, and so
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  Speaker 3: I was really disappointed in the way they played. I
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  Speaker 3: would have liked to see more goals, even if even
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  Speaker 3: if Italy had scored one more goal, they would have
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  Speaker 3: had to go into Sunday with Okay, I'm gonna air
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  Speaker 3: quotes this only goals needed. Obviously we know that it
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  Speaker 3: didn't make the difference, but I would have liked to
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  Speaker 3: see a good five six, seven goals showing against Moldova
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  Speaker 3: and we we we we didn't see that. And I
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  Speaker 3: think the two so even with this lineup, not start,
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  Speaker 3: not starting, Retegee kinda said that as well, like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: we're gonna go out get a formality win here and
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  Speaker 3: then we're gonna focus on Sunday. And it didn't work out.
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  Speaker 3: And Sunday, I think they did start off well, as
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  Speaker 3: I said, they had the goal, and right, right, would
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  Speaker 3: I suppose you to score, right, there's a bit of
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  Speaker 3: hope eleventh minute they needed one goal every ten minutes.
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  Speaker 3: There's just a bit of hope. But it quickly died down.
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  Speaker 3: They did have some chances, but it quickly died down.
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  Speaker 3: And then Norway, I think the second half of that
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  Speaker 3: point it was you don't know it was done. Norway
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  Speaker 3: took over Mancheini, pissed off Howling and and that's all
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  Speaker 3: she wrote. Here we go again, guys, playoffs but I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, we'll start just focusing on these two games.
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  Speaker 3: What are your what your thoughts on then?
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  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, just for me personally before I'll go here
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  Speaker 1: before Johnny. But you know, just just disappointing. I mean
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned obviously the you know, Chris Cord maybe a
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  Speaker 1: goal or two more against Moldova this this this past Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: But it should have been a goal or more in
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  Speaker 1: all the games, you know, but after the first lost
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  Speaker 1: to Norway, guys like this, this nine nil Mara Aulus
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  Speaker 1: hopeful result that every Italian was hoping for would have
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  Speaker 1: been trimmed down to maybe a four, five, even three
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  Speaker 1: if you will, you know, if if they kind of
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  Speaker 1: mussed up some more goals, uh, in the previous matchups,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, against Moldova too, on aggregate two games
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  Speaker 1: they've scored. They scored four goals against Moldova like that
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  Speaker 1: that was worrisome. You know, the Estonia matches, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the Israel match, the five four like that should have
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  Speaker 1: never have happened. We need we needed to you know,
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  Speaker 1: sweep the four with these with these again no disrespect,
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  Speaker 1: but smaller, smaller nations and insert our dominance. And again
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  Speaker 1: I know Italy is not known for the powerhouse of
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  Speaker 1: scoring goals at will and at ease. But come on, guys, like,
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  Speaker 1: enough's enough. You know we on paper, me personally to
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  Speaker 1: the man, I think Italy is better than pretty much
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  Speaker 1: all these teams. For me, it's it ends up being
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  Speaker 1: you know up here, you know, between between the years,
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  Speaker 1: you know, up up top, it's it's the mentality. And
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  Speaker 1: that's not just on the players, on the coach if
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  Speaker 1: you want to say, if on the coaching staff, but
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  Speaker 1: from top to bottom, guys, it's it's the mentality of again,
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  Speaker 1: not only the you know, the national team, the senior
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  Speaker 1: national team, but you know, from the FIGC, the federation,
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  Speaker 1: everybody in charge, Like it's how many times have we
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  Speaker 1: been saying it's it's it's a mentality thing. And again
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  Speaker 1: nothing has changed. You know, we go back two World
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  Speaker 1: Cups ago when we were first going bananas about this topic,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, we're you know, to two tournaments removed
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  Speaker 1: from that and we're still singing the same tune. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, you can have whoever you want on the pitch,
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  Speaker 1: you can have whoever you want on the touch line.
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  Speaker 1: As as as as manager, I know a lot of
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  Speaker 1: you know, fans and people are are already calling for
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  Speaker 1: Gatuzzo's head, but let's face it, you know it is
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  Speaker 1: where it is like he got put into this situation.
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  Speaker 1: He took a job that nobody else wanted, took the job,
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  Speaker 1: said you know what, I'll go into the fire and
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  Speaker 1: and and see what I can do and listen, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like it or not. And you know they weren't convincing. Granted, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I can give you that on some of these matches,
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  Speaker 1: but out of six games, he won five. So you
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  Speaker 1: know what, I don't think it's all on Gatuso. I
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  Speaker 1: know a lot of people were blaming Gatuso, didn't like
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  Speaker 1: the way he you know, maybe spoke in press conferences
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  Speaker 1: or just his his his his comments or or or
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  Speaker 1: what have you. But again I wouldn't circle the whole
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  Speaker 1: blame on on on on Gatuzo personally. But again, in
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  Speaker 1: these matches, especially in this window, you kind of knew
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  Speaker 1: what your your your your result would be. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you need to kind of smash Moldova to give you
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  Speaker 1: a bit of a chance against against Norway. They barely
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  Speaker 1: squeaked by Moldova uh to nil and scoring in the
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  Speaker 1: eighty eight minute for me is a disgrace. Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a goal by Mancini, his first for the national team
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  Speaker 1: and hopefully as last, because this guy cannot defend. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care what minute it is and what game,
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  Speaker 1: how much meaningful it is and and all that, but
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  Speaker 1: if you're backing up on you know, uh, the second
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  Speaker 1: string to early in Holland on a Norway team that
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  Speaker 1: again you don't even know the guy's name. What was
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  Speaker 1: his name, Stunad the larson, what was his name? I
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  Speaker 1: didn't even catch. But he turned Mancini into a Stunad
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  Speaker 1: the way he was defending, Like it's it's it's elementary things, guys,
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  Speaker 1: and you know it's it pisses us off as Italians
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  Speaker 1: and as fans of the of the national team, but
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  Speaker 1: it's it's one of these things where you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: not one thing to blame. It's it's a it's a
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  Speaker 1: it's a collective thing. And you know, when you when
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  Speaker 1: you put you know, certain people in positions to to
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  Speaker 1: make decisions and and and and whatnot, you know, these
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  Speaker 1: are kind of the results you're gonna get. And it's
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  Speaker 1: it's unfortunate. Again, kudos to kudos to Norway. You know,
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  Speaker 1: they got the job done, even though I personally still think,
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  Speaker 1: to a man, you know, they might have maybe what
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  Speaker 1: two three, I'll even give him four players better than
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  Speaker 1: Italy on on on paper, but they had they had
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  Speaker 1: the mentality, they had the killer instinct they had. The
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  Speaker 1: group were strong and you know they were able to
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  Speaker 1: to bully every team in the group. We lost in
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  Speaker 1: Norway seven to one on aggregate, seven to one. I
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  Speaker 1: said the four four nail on aggregate to to Moldova
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  Speaker 1: that that we took it just simply wasn't good enough.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, you want to say, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: it was a poor showing and I don't know like
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  Speaker 1: they were they were checked out after you know, it
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  Speaker 1: seemed like long long ago they were already.
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  Speaker 3: Saying normally the first time I think we knew it
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  Speaker 3: was playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: It was it was we said it from after that match,
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  Speaker 1: right guys, you know the last match, it's gonna come
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  Speaker 1: to the last match. Ultimately, we probably didn't predict that
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  Speaker 1: Norway was going to really run away with the group
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  Speaker 1: the way they did. And again, you know, shot pod
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  Speaker 1: to them. They they did what they had to do,
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  Speaker 1: but you know they were talking about playoffs. It seems like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, long ago and you can queue in the
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  Speaker 1: the gym Mora Indianapolis quotes. Uh playoffs, you're talking about
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  Speaker 1: playoffs like that that quote you can you can it
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  Speaker 1: live rent free in our heads. It seems like because
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  Speaker 1: it's it's it's crazy how many times we have to
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  Speaker 1: go through this, this this misery just to get into
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  Speaker 1: the World Cup. It's it's it's crazy. But yeah, listen,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't like. I didn't like how they left the
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  Speaker 1: game weight against Moldova. The worst chances they weren't able
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  Speaker 1: to finish. You know, Thetuzzo was surprised they even managed
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  Speaker 1: to win, which again people didn't like his comments there
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  Speaker 1: because he changed I would say, what almost the whole
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  Speaker 1: lineup and still managed to get a result. When you
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  Speaker 1: have a guy like Brian Christante as your captain for
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  Speaker 1: the national team, for me, there you go. It just
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  Speaker 1: it sums it up all there. Some of these players
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  Speaker 1: that are on the pitch. I've said it in the
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  Speaker 1: past with other players and we've said it on the show,
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  Speaker 1: like shouldn't be wearing the Aduri blue. But again, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they start off well in the Norway game, which I liked.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to see that. And the biggest thing for
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  Speaker 1: me in the before the Norway match and going into
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  Speaker 1: the Norway match knowing deny nothing miraculous result that Italy needed.
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  Speaker 1: Just go out with pride, guys, Just go out with
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  Speaker 1: pride like that is the least you can do at home,
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  Speaker 1: in front of your fans and everybody watching, you know,
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  Speaker 1: every Italian watching around the world. Just just go out
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  Speaker 1: with pride. You know what, you know you're not going
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  Speaker 1: to be able to to to a mass nine goals, okay,
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  Speaker 1: finn you know what that's that's that's okay. We we
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  Speaker 1: kind of knew our faith that that we can kind
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  Speaker 1: of accept that. But al weast go out with pride
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  Speaker 1: like you start off so well and in the second
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  Speaker 1: half they woke up the beast. They woke up the
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  Speaker 1: beast and and and they paid for it, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: uh that I guess maybe that shows where we are,
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  Speaker 1: you know, in terms of in terms of a nation.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, but simply not good enough, disappointing, and
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  Speaker 1: I know we'll get into other points as we go along.
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  Speaker 1: I don't we don't want to say everything right now,
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  Speaker 1: but it's it's you know, like what you said, Nick,
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  Speaker 1: I'll share here we go again. So it is what it.
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  Speaker 2: Is, Johnny, Well, I think you said a lot of
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  Speaker 2: good points there that I kind of shared the same sentiment.
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  Speaker 2: One thing I do want to add, though, is this
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  Speaker 2: whole thought that one comment that I really didn't like
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  Speaker 2: was the comedy made about are the way, like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we qualify for these events, and you know what, the
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  Speaker 2: kind of phases that we have to go through, and
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  Speaker 2: we have to stop using that as a crutch. We
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  Speaker 2: have to stop with those excuses, whether the like the
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  Speaker 2: it just pisses me, Like I'll just swear I don't
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  Speaker 2: give a ship. It just pisses me the fuck off
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  Speaker 2: when I see the fans fucking bitching and moaning about
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  Speaker 2: it too, it's like, shut the fuck up, Like, just
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  Speaker 2: absolutely shut the fuck up, Like you should not be bitch, Like, like,
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  Speaker 2: if you pride yourself and being such a dominant force
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  Speaker 2: in the world of soccer, why the fuck do you
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  Speaker 2: have to bitch and moanaback qualifications this you should be there,
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  Speaker 2: no problem. Well, Brazil's got six loss, Zuli has two,
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  Speaker 2: but Brazilian woke up, and who gives a fuck? Who
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  Speaker 2: gives a flying fuck. Fati fati fati doi. You know
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  Speaker 2: fatikati doi even better?
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  Speaker 1: Fuck?
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Like, that's that's what you should that's what you should
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  Speaker 2: be caring about.
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  Speaker 1: Right now.
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  Speaker 2: We're having issues with our fi GC, We're having issues
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  Speaker 2: with the way we handle on that sonale and I think,
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  Speaker 2: honestly speaking, I saw somebody make a point that I
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  Speaker 2: have to agree with. As much as I love Roma,
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  Speaker 2: as much as I love Monopoly, I give way more
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  Speaker 2: of a fuck about the Italian national team than I
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  Speaker 2: do about my club teams. I know people have their
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  Speaker 2: third their opinions and their thoughts, but for me, the
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  Speaker 2: most pride that I wear is when I put on
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  Speaker 2: the AZUITI, when I put on the that's that's, that's
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  Speaker 2: what when I feel the most pride for my team
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  Speaker 2: for soccer. And right now it hurts. It hurts because
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  Speaker 2: it's like every every woke up for the third woke up,
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  Speaker 2: qualification and role, there's a fucking issue. Who gives a shit?
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  Speaker 2: You're in this situation now, you play poorly. You know
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  Speaker 2: you weren't the best team in your group, norway above
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  Speaker 2: and me on was the best team in your group.
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  Speaker 2: They deservedly so, so they get the qualification. Now West,
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  Speaker 2: we have to go through the playoffs. EMO, you have
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  Speaker 2: to understand that in the in this in this playoff qualification,
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  Speaker 2: that you have to do no fucking excuses. You just
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  Speaker 2: go out there and you try to kill it. You're
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  Speaker 2: gonna like you might have another North Macedonia situation where
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna park the bus for eleven minutes, eleven minutes
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  Speaker 2: for ninety minutes, right, and I'm gonna wait for a
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  Speaker 2: counter tack opportunity to score. So keep that in the
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  Speaker 2: back of your minds that that's probably gonna happen again.
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  Speaker 2: So to prevent that from happening again. You know, you
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  Speaker 2: learn from your six your last time. You make sure
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  Speaker 2: you don't do it again this time around, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Yeah, like this time, you know, try
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  Speaker 2: to try to be over the top about it. You
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  Speaker 2: just blast those balls at the net, you know, just score.
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  Speaker 3: It's what it is.
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  Speaker 2: You move them like, stop trying to be perfect about it.
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  Speaker 2: If fuck even take shots from long range, I don't care.
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  Speaker 2: Just get those balls in the net. That's what it's
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  Speaker 2: all about. I truly believe this is what it's gonna
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  Speaker 2: have to take for us to get into.
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  Speaker 1: The World Cup.
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  Speaker 2: And if this is the path that we have to go,
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  Speaker 2: that's the path. Just get to the show. Just get
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  Speaker 2: to the show, and then worry about that afterwards. So
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  Speaker 2: what I do want to add about all this is
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  Speaker 2: that you can't. That's a loser mentality. If you're if
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  Speaker 2: you're going on in the media and you're making comments
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  Speaker 2: about our qualification method through different other qualification methods, blah
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  Speaker 2: blah blah, YadA YadA, ya YadA, yadah blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 2: If that's what you're doing when you're going out to
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  Speaker 2: the media, then you're already having issues. And that's that's
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  Speaker 2: that's that's not a good mentality. That's showing them that
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  Speaker 2: you're trying to find excuses because you're prepping yourself for failure.
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  Speaker 2: You're not prepping yourself for success. You're prepping yourself for failure.
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  Speaker 2: So like that, when uh, let's say you guys get
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  Speaker 2: another shocker and you lose to fucking Albania. Let's say,
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  Speaker 2: if you get pulled up against Albania, right, you can
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  Speaker 2: pull up those comments. You will qualification that guys, Please,
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  Speaker 2: who gives a ship I it's it's the woke up.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody has their own methods of getting there. It's all
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  Speaker 2: about equity, not equality. And I think, honestly speaking, that
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  Speaker 2: you should have the mentality of, oh okay, well we
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  Speaker 2: have to go to the playoffs. Still, let's do it.
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  Speaker 3: Such another game.
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  Speaker 2: That's what it has to be. You're four time world champion,
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  Speaker 2: you're an Olympic gold medal winning team, You're you're a
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  Speaker 2: two time euro winner.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Like, it's it's not like as and it's not like
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: as if, like this just happened like Uruguay, like one
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: hundred years ago. Like no, this is recent history. You
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: want a year own twenty twenty one. Yeah, people looking
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: in the bottle. It's not just lightning in the bottle.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: There's still good there's still good amount of players from
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: that roster, you know. Yeah, it's it's it's just look,
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: you can't always rely on the same guard, you can't
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: rely on the same thing. Just try out something new.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: For example, Esposeito right, fantastic player. I think he deserves
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: more and more playing time. He's been the guy who's
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: been to hot pot. Let him play, you know, especially
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: with injuries that are playing the front. But he's been great,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Like we have the talent. Like this is why people
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: are like complaining about like like this team's not quality.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: It is quality. It's just you gotta play them. You
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: gotta play them. As much as I love the Lorenzo,
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: he cannot play in a three man back line. No,
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: he cannot play in a three man back line at
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: all at all. He's not defensively sound enough nor fast
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: enough to handle the three men back with him because
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: if he gets burnt, Italy's got over.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: And then you have and then you have and again no,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: no knock to some of these guys, but you have
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: to point you know, right wing back and we need
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: creativity up front. And he gets caught, you know, exposed defensively.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: But he's not a defender.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: No, And he doesn't play right wing back for Napoli
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: at all.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: He plays right wing.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: He doesn't play right he does. That's what I'm saying,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Like these players are being used out of positions and
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: and then it's it's just take this is what you do.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: If you're a national team coach, who are my best players?
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Donali Badela, Dona Ruma, you know, like these are the
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: player up front, you know, like my strikers are phenomenal, great,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: how do I capitalize on these guys? Okay, I have
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: to do a basic four three three. I'm gonna do
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: a basic four three three because at least I'll have
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: my best players in the best positions. You don't have
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: to get smart tactically, you don't have to rearrange you know,
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: you don't have to reinvent the wheel. Just these are
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: my best players, is what I got.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Let me just go with that.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Who cares if it's a vanilla wafer of a formation?
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Who cares? If it's like the most basic thing. Don't overcomplicated.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Don't try to fit somebody into a hole that they
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: don't fit in.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Now, we don't have the time to start experimenting.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: So exactly exactly, like, it's not about the players themselves
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: organically will fix themselves in a certain way on the pitch.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: National team gameplay is best on best. It's it's because
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: these players don't always play with each other. They don't
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: always probably don't have these cores anymore that you used
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: to have because city, Ah, that's another issue for another day.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: They don't. They don't.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: It's it's rare that you'll find like a bunch of
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Battalian players on the same team, and that's your core
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: that you're going forward with. Because you don't have that.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Just play them in their best Just put them in
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: their best possible positions and let them figure it out.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: They're professionals for a reason, your coach, you get them together.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Gatuso's got to be more of a motivator, not a tactician.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: He has to be the motivator that he is and
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: just motivate them to go out there and kill. That's
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: what they have to tell.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: I wonder. Oh sorry, Nick, I'll let you go.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: No, I was gonna say, like I think it's also
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: you know people talk about it's a talent issu who
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: is talented. Yes, we know there's a development issue. There's
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: all this and that in Italy. Yeah, okay, it's not
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: because of that that we lost in Norway. It's not
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: because of that way that we lost to North Macedonia
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: or Sweden. Those were one game. Like you said, you
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: treat mentality and coaching. I'm not and I'm not saying
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: that to blame it on Gatuzzo. But no matter who
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: you develop, once you get to that big game in
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: these qualifiers. You need the proper system. So you know,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: everyone's talking about they need to develop young players. What
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: if they need to need to develop coaching. You know,
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: what if there needs to be a better system wide figc.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: They played this way, let's say through the youth levels
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: and they grow up together. I don't know, I don't know.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: I'm not the expert here, but clearly the youth levels
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: are working. Look, you seventeen, they just big ne Uzbekistan,
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: a team that qualified for the World Cup at the
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: senior level. In the you seventeen World Cup youth twenty
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: one team, they always make the Euros. Sure, they haven't
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: won in about fourteen years or something whatever, twenty years,
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: but they're they're competitive. But some for some reason, there's
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: a problem when they get to the senior level and
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: then suddenly they can't play with each other except for
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: one summer in twenty twenty one. And so it's not, Yes,
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Sidian needs to do better this and that, we need
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: better stadiums, we need better broadcasting rights. But guys, it's
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: not because there's a track around the side of the
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Olympico that that Italy lost twice in Norway. Let's I
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: think it does come down to coaching. And also Adri
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: you know you're saying before Gatuzo won five out of six,
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: I don't think it helped that they basically went through
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: two coaches in eight games in this qualifying phase. It
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: would have been ideal to have one coach throughout the
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: whole time. That game, that first game against Norway was awful.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: You know, split to was the problem, obviously one of
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: the problems. And like I said, as soon as that happened,
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: it felt like they already packed up. They're like, hey,
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: we know this is the playoffs. Yeah, no, that I
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: think I think that. That's what I wanted to say
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: about your points there, guys. But the talent's there. The
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: talent's there. It's it's like azz. It's like it's like
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: a puzzle. There, you got a puzzle. You got all
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: these pieces, nice pieces, nice painting, whatever. You got to
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: learn how to put it together, right.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: But that's I'm saying, don't reinvent the wheel. Just put
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: a standard formation. Let the let the boys figure it out.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: There.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: They're pros for a reason. Put on your best four
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: d put on your best three, and put on your
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: best three mids, and put on your best three up front,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: you know, or if you want to do a four
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: to four to two even to have more minute to
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: put more mid options go ahead. It's like, I don't
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: think we have the the tactics to handle three five
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: to two right now. We don't have three uh phenomenals
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: ball moving center backs to handle that kind of responsibility.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Like we don't have the BBC anymore, we don't have
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: the Baazagi back line, and we know we don't have
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: anymore Mancini. But Bastoni is probably the only the veender
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: that's on the national team right now that can handle
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: a three man back line, you know what I'm saying.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Like, but even even him, man, I don't know. Like
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: I again, I love like I hate that he's an
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: inter player and all that and joking aside from that,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: like I like him as a player and he's he's
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: one of our top players. But I don't know, man,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Like some of these guys like they you know, we
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: used to criticize Immobile a right, A lot of people
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Mobile one player and staid, yeah, a different player when
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: he wears the Azui blue. I'm starting to see more
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: and more of those types of players coming to to reality,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: like Bastoni for Inted and Bastoni for the Adzuri. Lately,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: maybe it's recently biased and and we're just hot headed
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: and heated and whatnot. But it's not the same, it's
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: not the same player, you know. But too this intercore again,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: it's no knock to them, but and I know they
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: play a lot, and I'm not trying to whatever, you know,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: bash them, but you know, I think we're caught in
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: a bit of a rock in a hard place when
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: it comes to formation, because I've been seeing a lot
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: of people saying, well, you know, you need to utilize
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: your players and put them in the best positions for
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: them to do. You know, they're what they're good at,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: and and totally agree, absolutely, So you play the three
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: at the back because you know you have a guy
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: like Mancini, a guy like Bonjordano, a guy like Calla
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Fiori right that I think are good enough players too
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: to string up a defense. You know, you have a
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: guy like DeMarco that is a left wing back. So
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: that's why you kind of integrate, you know, this this
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: three man back line, which okay, you want to go forward,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: that fine, but then who do we play on the
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: other side, because again I don't think it's a Direnzo.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: And you know, is it a Cambiaso, is it a Balanova.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: You know, we have some other guys, you know, Coyote, Palestra, Marchael, Palaestra.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Like there's there's, there's, there's other young names. They're not
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: called up there, They're not there, they're not integrated. So
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: again I don't know, but.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: For me, like like sorry for sorry, no, no, go ahead, no,
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: but like the fact that you bring up Cambiaso and
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: stuff on the right back, I just don't think it's
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: it's feasible for that, Nick, Can you can you help
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: us out here?
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: This guy you've a, does Cambiasco play in the three
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: man back line or is it a four man back?
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Like I think he can play on either wing back
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: if I'm a mistaken, I mean I.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: Think with you a he does play more on theft
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: as a wing back on either side, like you said, uh,
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: for sure, he has. For sure he's played a three
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: man back in the past, but not regularly more like
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: with injuries. But even now, look they have injuries and
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: they're playing coup miners at a three men back for
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: cambias to shoulders. That's not his not where they're gonna
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: put him unless it's an emergency.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: So that's not just to add to your point, Agre,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: It's like you have a lot of these guys for
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: their club teams they play which they're used to play
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: with four guys they used to playing with four man.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Back and well, except for the intercore the interview, like
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: DeMarco is not a left back. Him defensively, we saw
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: it at the Euros last summer. We've seen it, you
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: know when he when he suits up, I'm sorry, great
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: left wing back and he puts in a wicked ball
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: with that left foot and he gets going offensively. But
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: he's not a true defender. So then he's just not.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: But we need to have him in the lineup because
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: you know he's a magic dictates. You know, he's our
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: best left sided player. So he gets into the starting lineup.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: So that means we have to play a three five.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: So so here's here's here's here's my thing, right, I.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Would play a three four two one if you want
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: to do the three back. That's that's that's my thing.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: But okay, you could you could or like if we're
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: if we're doing a vanilla lineup. You put him as
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: left mid. Just put him four four four four two. Yeah,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: you know, like just put him as a left mid.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: So like that he's still and is in his comfortable zone,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: but he's still able to like perform like he's still.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: It's something that's like it doesn't expose I think our defense,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Like my main issue with this is that our defense
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: core all players in Italy. I'm not talking about this,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: this is an entire city as situation. We don't have
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: defenders that are capable of playing in the three man
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: back line or defensively responsible enough to handle a three
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: man back line, especially when against the fast teams. You know,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: like we go up against a fast young winger, these
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: guys are burnt. It's over, and then we have we
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: have scrambling in the back end. You know what I'm saying.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: I think that that the three man back line needs
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: to go. I think it needs to be a four
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: man back line at minimum.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: I just I agree, But I just don't think they will.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I don't think it'll. I don't know, I don't I
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: don't see it changing. Because you know you want your
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: to your point earlier, Johnny, you want your best players
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: in the best positions to do their best. And yes,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: like I said, I totally agree in.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Any other identify who those are in demonco is.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: And I think we we kind of have a base,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: you know, for me. If now he's not in that midfield,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: we're fun lost in the middle. Ye look at Elly.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Nick, but fuck this guy. He cannot play
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: put it fuckingly chi put something somebody else. He cannot
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: play there. He's he can't. He loses every ball, He's
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: fucking late to every fucking tackle. It's it's incredible. Uh
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: you know, Uh, Christante, I'm sorry again. I know he's
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: a fan favorite to some of our listeners. Uh you know,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: I I know that. Whatever. Okay, I get it, But
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: he's not that Sonale. I'm He's not you know, he's
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: not one of He's not a national team player. I'm sorry.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Some of these guys are just not national team players.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: We have to identify who are best eleven is who's
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: the people coming off the bench that can make an impact.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Put out that fucking lineup three, four, five, six, whatever
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: you want to fucking do, and and call it in
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: my head if they continue with his three back it's
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: a three four two one. You know, you can't play
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: that kind of Christmas Tree esque. I think it is
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: type of formation al a'la FC twenty whatever they're at,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: five six, whatever they're at, and and you roll from there.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: You have that that midfield of Tonali and Barella. I
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: like Gridici. I know I'm a bit biased with with
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: the Mealon links, but I like Goodchi. I think he
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: should get going. It's unfortunate that Lovela got injured and
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: and he was out of this camp and and he's
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: been away from the national team for a bit, but
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: because I kind of like what he brings as well.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: But you know, going forward, you know, you you put
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: guys like I mentioned the point before when the Johnny
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: about Politano, you you expose these guys. You know, the
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Oorenzels not a center back. Meanwhile, he plays fucking center back,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: you know, every fucking game. It's incredible. He's not fast
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: enough or or quick enough or or maybe reliable enough
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: as as a right you know, wing back or right back.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: So where do we put this guy? People want to
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: get I'm out of this fucking lineup, I hear you.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: But now who do we who do we put there,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: and again it's a whole mess. At the end of
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: the day, I think like we've been kind of nailing
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: home here. Identify who it is that you want to
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: put into this lineup, go go with that, and and
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: motivate these guys to to where the AJI book because honestly,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: and I always refer we always refer to Johnny's background
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: on the show a lot when it comes to the
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: national team, the legends, the you know, I've seen a
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: lot of pundits, a lot of podcasters, a lot of
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: content creators, a lot of to be former players if
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: it be, you know, guys in our realm of creating
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: cultural content. You know, we don't have the superstars of
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: of the past. And again I hate always going to
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: the past. Some things are reality. We don't have those
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: those superstar players. We just don't And again that's fine.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: You know, we don't have those Maldi his nest does
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: kind of taties del pieros that are on Johnny's background, Right,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: we don't have those guys anymore. But not only do
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: we not have those guys anymore, which is fine, we
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: can kind of turn that page. I so feel that
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: it still doesn't click to some of these players what
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: it means to wear the juribu Like you speak to
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Jianfon because he was on he was on Cassano, Lili
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Dani and Nicole Evento's podcast Football not too long ago,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: I think it was. And and when he speaks about
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: the national team, it's like he's talking about his wife,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: his family, like it's it's it's a true love for
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: the national team. These players have today, I don't I
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: don't get that same, that same vibe when when when
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: they talk about the national team, Yeah they say it's important. Yeah,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: they say, yeah, the shirt weighs a lot, and you know,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: if it's it's such an honor and this and that.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: But I don't see it. We don't see it on
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: the pitch as we're going to a third playoff like
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: the Adzuri Blue. I mean, I don't know. I'm I'm
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: I'm nowhere near the level of playing for the national team.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: But I can bet you if I ever had that
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: talent to be there, I would fight and die for
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: that fucking shirt for how much it means. Right, I
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: don't see that today. You know, you don't see the
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: you know, Gatuzzo, the player in today's in today's game.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: And maybe that's a generational thing. I don't know. That's
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: maybe a different topic for a different day. But you know,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Budjo went out with no knees, but as in the
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: final ninety four went out with no knees. Yeah, you
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: had nothing left. They still they still suit it up
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: for the national team. They still showed up. They still
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: went to war. These guys, they they're saying they're going
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: to war, but they're not going to war. Guys, they
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: might be playing war the card game, I don't know,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: but they're not fucking actually going to war anymore. So
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: it's it's a shame. It's a mentality thing. Like I
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: said earlier, I think that's that's that's the that's the
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: root cause of maybe not the root cause, but one
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: of the root causes of of all this negativity surrounding
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: the national team. And one thing I want to add
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: before and we kind of jump different topics since then,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: I kind of wonder if if you know, with Gattuso's
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: comments and everybody kind of going a bit crazy about it,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: to me, I think two things can be true. I
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: do believe that it is a bit crazy that some
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: of these teams get their past to the to the
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: to the tournament is a bit crazier. You know, you
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: think to yourself, Wow, I only watch two games and
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: I'm still fucking struggling to get into the tournament. I
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: see that point. But again, but put that all with
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: all that bullshit aside, I wonder if the FIGC and
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: they're kind of grooming Gatuso not the fucking we haven't
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: seen him explode yet. I haven't seen him like that
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Catsima that greened that we but we always put on Gatuzo,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: which has been his entire career. He's a he's a
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: true true calabresee to a tee. We haven't seen that,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: like I would like to see that, Like these guys
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: have a finger on a kick in the ass, yet
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: this seems like they haven't. They haven't felt that that
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: that wrath of Gatuzo. So I don't know if they're
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: kind of polishing them a bit, and I don't know
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: if they're kind of holding it back from kind of
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: pulling those types of antics. I don't know, because I
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: don't know. Something doesn't look it doesn't look like the
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Gatuzo that we know. But that was kind of just
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: another point. I wanted to throw in there, but I
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: know we'll have other topics, but just to.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: Say I do, I did want to talk about the formatting.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, at least give my opinion because I yeah,
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: some of the reaction I saw online, especially before the
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: normal game, I completely disagreed with it. Like I know
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Carlow brought up, you know, with the Brazil example and
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: Cannon bole. Yes, it's it's different, and it's it's it
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: is weird to look at cornon Bol six six out
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: of ten teams. You got to realize just how strong
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: Connon Bowl is and the gauntlet they have to go
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: through for qualifying. They play eighteen games. Italy played eight,
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: so you can't even say, oh, one team has six losses,
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: another team has two losses. They didn't even play the same.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Amount of games.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: Let Italy play eighteen games and then see if they
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: still have six losses. Not only that, this is the
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: rankings for quant Umbule before the qualification started July twenty
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: twenty three. Rankings he had Argentina first, Brazil third, Uruguay sixteenth,
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: Columbia seventeenth through twenty one, Chile thirty two, Ecuador forty,
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Paraguay forty nine, Venezuela fifty seven and Bolivia, who's going
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: to the interc Confederation playoffs eighty three. Guys, this is
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: who Italy had to play. The FIFA rankings at the
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: time of the draw last year for the World Cup.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: For the World Cup qualifiers, Norway forty three, Italy was.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Grouped.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Italy was, yeah, ninth, But I'm saying Italy was
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: grouped with the lowest ranked Pot two team, Norway. So
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: what of all the Pot two teams, this was at
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: the time of the draw the best case in scenario
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: because they were the lowest strength. Yeah, okay, I know.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: The rankings.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Rankings are like are like the FIFA rankings are like
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: the B on my index. It's it's just numbers, like
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: What I mean. Yeah, like a lot of teams in
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: the thirty to forty range regardless, Normay was ranked forty three,
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: Israel seventy six, Estonia one hundred and twenty three, and
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: Mondova one hundred and fifty one. So there's no point
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: of even comparing these. And then on top of that, guys,
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: we're all older brothers, right, we all have younger brothers.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: Imagine you come home one day you failed your test,
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: but it was it was a really hard test. There
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: was only eight questions, but the passing was eighty nine percent.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: You've got two questions wrong. Your brother comes home the
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: same day, passes his test eighteen questions. He got six wrong,
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: but he still passed the test.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: All good.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: You think you can use that excuse on your mother's ah.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: But Juliana, all but massimall but material. They got six wrong.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: I only got too wrong. No, they failed.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: What do you want to do?
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: Like Jen, you're the teacher. You know that at a
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: certain point there's a past film mark and it changes
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: for every class, for every grade, So you can't you
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: can't compare. You can't you can't sit a whine about
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: it after the fact that you've already lost. If you
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: want to complain about the format, you have to do
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: it beforehand.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: You know what one thing I would add into all
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: this is that we are we listen some of these things.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: People want to say they're flawed. Sweden zero wins and
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: and they're in the playoffs with the nation's league. Bullshit.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Whatever they have the that performance, it carries over whatever
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: they're there. They're in the playoffs zero wins. Like for me,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: I don't care you played ten games or one hundred games.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: If you've got zero wins, he should be nowhere near
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: the big dance. I'm sorry.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that is the one issue of the format
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: I have that they give additional chances to teams from
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: the Nations League, not even from not even from the
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: World Cup qualifying, and then Italy has to play one
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: of these teams that Okay, yes they're they're ranked a
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: bit lower, but if you look at the pots for
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: tomorrow's draw, the Nations League teams are in Pot four,
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: even though they're ranked higher, like Sweden is ranked forty third,
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: Romania forty seventh, and they're in pot four. Meanwhile, there's
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: Kosovo in Bosnia at seventy one and eighty and pot three.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: So if you're gonna do something to it properly, you know,
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: so that yeah that I don't I don't like. It
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: should have been twelve teams. Pot one teams getta buy
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: Pot two to three teams play each other and that's it.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Who cares what Nations League in this case?
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's in. It's I don't know, we can
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: we can have a whole other I feel like podcasts
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: just talking about all that, all that bullshit.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: But regardless, regardless, at this point, any team that that
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: Italy could face, whether it's Poland, Wales, Czechia, Slovakia, Ireland, Albeitia, Bosnia,
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: a Colosto, Sweden, Romania, Northern North Macedonia, Northern Ireland, they
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: have to beat them. There's no excuses, right, And I'm
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: not even going on the fact that all were Italy
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: have four World Cups. Just the current addition, this team's
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: better than all those teams. They have to win. They can't,
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: they can't not win this. They've learned, they have to
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: have learned from the past two editions, losing to Sweden.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: I understand Swedena is actually a decent team at the time,
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: but the lossing in North Macedonia was worse. So they
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: have to avoid that. They have no Portugal on the
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: other side this time.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Like forget people, forget what would happened last time. Yeah,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: if they would have won.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, losing to Portugal would have been less
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: embarrassing than North Macedonia now. But whatever, Sure, but yeah,
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: it'll be interesting to see to draw tomorrow morning. But
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: any of these teams Italy has to be No.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: It's very it's very simple. I mean, and I think
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: kicked off the show with it. Right, guys, we have
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: to get to the to the World Cup. There's no
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: two ways about it. We have we have to get it.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: And again, well this even if how can I say this,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: if we make it to the World Cup, it's still
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: a big band aid over this huge scap that is
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Italian football, That is the FIGC, that is all the
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: problems politically in Italy. That is you know, oh, the
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: the kids don't play on the streets anymore like they
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: used to non druga persada, bro, you think the fucking
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Norwegian kid is playing in the fucking streets in the
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: middle of December January, that he's fucking shoveling snow more
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: than he is over here in Montreal. He lives in
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: you know, they have to make an igloo. And this
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: guy is talking about, oh, the kids don't play in
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: the streets and more Holland, I don't know. He plays
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: in the streets, he plays in the snow, he plays
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: in the mountains. He could put whatever the fuck he wants.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: He's gonna score two, three, four goals. It's it was.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: He had he had six teen goals, Holland. I think
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: it was in eight games.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he had sixteen, and I think Italy had twenty.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: One or twenty three, twenty one I think total. Yeah,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: exactly right, he had sixteen in eight games. He was
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: going two goals again, Like what are we talking about?
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Like it's again we're gonna beat at that horse here.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: But Italy has, Italy has to win, Italy has to
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: get into the World Cup. I'm tired of fucking tuning
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: into these World Cups and it'llly not being there, not
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: some having something to truly cheer about, because yes, Canada's there,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna support, for sure, but it just
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: brings a different buzz and a different a different feeling
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: when when when Italy's in the World Cup or any
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: of these tournaments. Right, Like, I don't know, like it's
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: you know, we're I don't know if we grew up
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: in the best era for for for culture. I don't
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: know if you want to say that, but you know,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: we got to see Italy participate. We got to see
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Italy win tournaments, if it be World Cup, if it
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: be you know, the Euros, Like Johnny mentioned earlier, there's
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: kids out there, young Italian kids that haven't even seen
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Italy in the World Cup. Haven't even seen them forget
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: when the thing, haven't even seen them participate in the
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: fucking event participate. So that right there should put you
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: should be embarrassed as a as a as a player
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: on this team to not make it to a third
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: one in a row. And listen there there it was clear,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: like you said Nick earlier, that their heads were for March.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: They were saying it in I like to listen to
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: these press conferences before or after, during whatever. I like
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: to kind of tune in. I listen in when I
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: can to what's being said, what's been because a lot
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: of times you go online and things get twisted, right,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: things get twisted of how things are said, and you
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: kind of want to maybe hear for yourself if you can,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: if you can get the the you know, the the
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: source of the of of what's being said. And you know,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: they were already talking about March. You know, a while ago.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: March was already seemed to be circled because it seemed
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: insurmountable to be able to achieve you know, the the
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: you know, the first place. We needed a miracle, we
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: needed you know, Norway to slip up. We needed note
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: nothing result, Like, guys, this is not reality. This is
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: not realistic, So come march. I don't care who it is.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: It doesn't, it shouldn't. Even people are saying, oh, well,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: who do you think you know they have the best
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: chance to get I don't care they have they have it.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: We should be scared of all these teams, but they
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: have no choice but to win. So scared or not,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: or if you want to admit that or not, they
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: need to win. What's that quoting in Rocky was a
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Rocky Too, when he's an agent agents and the coma, right,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: and and sly he's there next to the bed there
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: and she's just trying to wake up, right, she's just
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: coming out of the coma. And he should say to
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: him something along the lines like I just want you
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: to do one thing for me, and he's like, what win? Win?
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: And then the fucking cue the Bill Quanti fucking training montage, right,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: like we need to fucking put that on. I don't
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: care win, just win, right, Al Davis, right, open Raiders,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: just win, baby. It's it's I mean the quotes and
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: and the analogies tonight that are flowing like like like crazy,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: but it's it's very simple. It's three It's three letters
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: W I N WIN. That's that's all I do.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: We needs to do, guys. I do want to talk
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: about city, but one other thing.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Actually, wait before we before we go there, there was
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: another topic that I kind of we've we've had we've
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: had discussions on this show concerning this guy, and I
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: hate always bringing him up, but he's he seems to
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: always be relevant in these conversations with the with the
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: AI because we don't know who we we're gonna have
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: right come March, right, that's the biggest thing, and we're
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: not gonna be able to you know, Gatooso's gonna have
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: limited time to really ban this this group together. I'm
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: hopeful that everybody is healthy enough to be there for
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: March because I think we're gonna need our full squad available.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: But do you think he goes knocking? Does you do
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: you think he extends that call out once again for
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Fedri or or is that just a mirage at this point?
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: That's because I have certain opinions. I just want here.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: You're guys, Johnny, I don't know if you thought of anything.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, if he's healthy enough and he's performing better
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: than others on the pitch.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: He did he to spot and why not refused? Like
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: if you listen to the reports, he refused the two times.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: So I don't know Kizza refused the two times for
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: the yeah because but but you have to But you
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: have to commend Kizz for that because he doesn't feel
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: he's up to par for it, you know what I mean,
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Like he doesn't want to go because he doesn't want
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: to go up and give a poor product. Now, whenever
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: he feels possible or good enough to to to go play, sure,
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: why not? How howe My personal opinion is that you
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: always go for the most informed players. You don't go
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: for legacy as much like yeah, like you don't. You
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: always go for who deserves to be there and who
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: is the best player to be there. You always have
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: to go with your best options. You can go for legacy.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: The thing is is that sometimes there's players with potentials
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: where it's like if you don't bring them, sometimes they
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: have an X factor that can make a difference, you
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. But it's like, I'll give you
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: the perfect example, Cassano. Cassano was that play that he
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: saw all the talent was there, all the potential was there, Citia,
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: this kid was a wonder kid. He was putting players
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: in his pocket with his dribbling abilities, scoring great goals,
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: great offensively talent. Then he falls off a cliff in
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: a sense of like, you know, his career takes a
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: bit of a nose dive. He's he's problematic and whatnot.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: And I recall watching I remember, I remember it perfectly.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: I was watching a year of two thousand and eight.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: I went to a cafe with friends after an exam
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: day one day because I was in SEC four, so
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: after one of my exams he went. There was an
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: Italy game against was it the Spain game or was
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: it one of the I forget which game it was.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: I think it was the last group stage game, and
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: they put Casano on and the guy looked so lost,
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: He looked so out of place, out of sorts, wobbling around,
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: and in terms of like he didn't seem like he
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: knew what he was doing in a sense, you know,
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, what has happened to Antonio Cassano? Like
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: what has happened to this guy?
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: And and I don't want Kieza to be another Cassano
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: in a sense, it's like a player who has got
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: a lot of potential and a lot of plays. But
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: if he's gone for so long, even though you bring
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: him because his name is Keza, when you put him on,
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: you're like, you know what I mean, Like you're like, yikes,
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like you just wasted a subslot.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: So I kind of like the fact that he's holding
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: himself back because he doesn't feel.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: Up the part with it.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: But and I want him to because I love Kezza.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: I absolutely love Kizza. I want him to come back.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: I want him to come back and be that form.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: But I'm also worried that his time in Liverpool, you know,
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: like not seeing the pitch often, you know, has probably
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: taken away of Hupindiko Kizza is and I don't want
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: to I need him to come back to Citia, to
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: get regular playing time again before it's the fan fuck
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Fienantina is at the bottom of the table. Wouldn't it
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: be a great time to come back to your basically
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: your home club and try to save them. And that's
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: where you can find your confidence. Hello, Rocca, you know,
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: give a call, you know, get him back. You might
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: even get him for cheap from Liverpool because they're they're
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: not using him. But anyways, but I want to see
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: them try other Like now it's kind of too late
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: because now you're in the playoffs point at playoff point,
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: but this would could have been the time to like,
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: especially after that first loss versus Norway. You're like, you
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: know what, okay, playoffs it is. Let's let's maybe we
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: try out the ex player. Let's try out Camrada. Let's
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: see how Camarada does, you know, like or you know
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: it started the city off season. Basquerotto was just on
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: a different level for center backs. Maybe we try him,
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: as I remember I joked around about Bascarotto being like
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: the third the third option for right in the middle
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: of the three man and a four man back line,
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: being the third or fourth CB, Like fuck it, give
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: it a shots. See how he does.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Who's this? You know what I mean?
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Like sometimes you know that some of the best surprises
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: come from the from the most random of places. If
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: if you want to use I know it's it's a
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: different time. I know it's a different era. But Drusso
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: was a automo player for Italy back in two thousand
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: and six.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: Six.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean, Like he was the
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: he was the outlier. He had an inter core, you
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: had a UV core, you had a Roma Cort and
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: then he had Grosso, the Palermo player.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: Right, Like you never know.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: Sometimes you just never know. Sometimes it doesn't matter where
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: these guys play. Sometimes it's all about who's the most
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: informed player.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: So where was I going with this?
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: What I was saying is that in the terms of Kiaza.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: And in general, would you call him up in March?
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, in general, if he is in formed, if by
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: something from now until March, he's getting more playing time,
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: or he has a you know, he's notational mental sort
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: of thing of like maybe maybe he's like he's doing
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: well for Liverpool there he's going a starter. Or during
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: the winter window he gets transferred back to a sitiat team,
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: which I think you should come back home, and he
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: starts playing very well for them. Fuck it, give it
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: a shot. Right now, you're at a point where it's
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: like you obviously you can't fuck up because you're in
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: the playoffs, but you also need to make you can't
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: get comfortable and you can't just expect you try to
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: can't You have to stop trying to quit a square
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: piece in a round hole type of thing. So you
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: want somebody who cold play right wing or right wing
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: back Gueza, you know what I'm saying, Like Keiza can
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: do both. He played, He played right wing back in
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: purelot System for Juve. You know he has that sense.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: He plays right wing. I think he's probably probably absolute
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: at his absolute best in the right wing spot. I
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: think he's better on on on a on on his
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: best day, I think he has is better than Politano.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: And I say this as an appoly fan. I think
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: on his best day he has is better than Politano.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: That's not much of a stretch, but.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: A lot of people should have Polytano.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Polyto is not bad. Like he's not.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: He's not he's not he's not he's not a phenomen
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: he's not a world beater, he's not a legendary player.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: But he's not bad.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: He's he's he's a guy where I when I see
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: him in the lineup, like like Monopoly fans like the
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: joke like, oh he's a terrorist. He's a joke, like
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: he's the terrorist for this for city what Like there's
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: people that hate him because sometimes he does a bit
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: too much and you lose that ball. But the guy
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: was second place to Ymen Lamal in terms of beats,
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: in terms of in terms of dribble attempts beaten, like you.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Know, like being in a player like, yeah, Drimple is completed.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: Drimples completed. Like he's he's not horrible either, for like
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: he's like he's a guy. If I see the lineup,
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: I don't think he's the problem of the lineup because
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: he's always in the spot that he's supposed to be.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. You got to assist right on? Was
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: it Peal's goal the yeah, first game, right or the
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: like this window first game?
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I don't, I don't. I don't think that
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: if I see him in the lineup, I'm like, he's
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: the problem of the lineup.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: It's not.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: When I see the problem in the lineup, I see
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: it's a d n Z on a three man back
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: line on the right. That's where I see the problem there.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: But anyways, that's that's from a previous comblem. In terms
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: of Keza, if by by some divide miracle, he's ready
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: to play in March and he has like some kind
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: of resurgence, uh sure, why not? But if if he's
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: still not getting any playing time Liverpool, if he even
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: himself he feels that he's so so so so disconnected
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: from it, I'd say let him stay home then if
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: he don't want to come at this point, just like
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: you should have as much as as much as I
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: love Keeza, is Keza going.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: To be that one player that one player.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: Makes that difference to to to qualifying for Woke Up
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: or not. It should not be on Kieza. Not that
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: it's not Keiza's being a good player, it's a sense
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: that we're Italy. We're not a team that needs to
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: rely on one player, you know, like like besides the
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: Dobeto Biado a bad Joe back in the day, you know,
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: like where this guy was a world beater on his own.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: The squad has never been about one player. It's always
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: been success as a unit, failure as a unit. So
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: if KU's is not able to make it, you have
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: talent enough to make up for that hole. As as
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: as a full respect to Kaza. And this is not
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: talking poorly about Keza. It's more about no excuse. If
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: there's no kids out, you should have a guy who's
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: good enough to be the next man up.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: That's that's yeah, I agree.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, I you know, it's four months away, so
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: we have to see with injuries and all that between
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: now and and that's.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: The biggest thing. Or you don't know who's going to
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: be available.
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: Who's going to be hot, you know. So I think
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: it's too early to call. Yes, if he's good, if
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: he's playing well, of course call him up. But his
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: borderline like, don't call him up just because of something
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: he did. It's going to be five years ago, and
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: expect him to carry the team. Like Jenny said, you
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: can't rely on one player. So yeah, I personally, I
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: think right now, besides the Rouma, at least most important
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: player for those games, it's Red ta Gee. So I
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: hope he stays healthy. They just need to go out
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: and score goals.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: In those two I think the.
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: Sorry I said, I think he.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: Needs to get in there too, because it showed that
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: we kind of missed him in these in these in
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: this window. But anyways, on the he has the topic honestly,
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: like he keeps on refusing whatever, and like I think
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: he was in better form ahead of this window, and
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: he was he was playing a bit more. Again, I
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: don't fall the Premier League to a tee and I
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: just kind of see what I've seen from Afar. But again,
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: like I don't know, like how many more times you're
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: gonna like refuse it, Like you know, Gatuzzo's extending the invite.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: You know, he wants you to come come along. This
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: would have maybe been the time to kind of integrate him,
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: because again he's not integrated. To Johnny's point, the Casano
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: point in a wait, you know, yes, he knows he's
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: most of these players, if not all right, he's kind
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: of had a bit of a relationship probably with again
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: majority of the team, if not all. He's putting in Saria,
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: so he knows, he knows the vibe. But again he
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: hasn't been integrated into this, into this new quote unquote Italy.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: So I don't know, Like for me, I yeah, okay,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: extend the invite, but I'm not gonna cry. I'm not
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: gonna lose sleep if he if he doesn't get called
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: up for for this for this upcoming window, for for
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: for March, because at the you know, we got to
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: this point without him. Is he the one that's the
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: X factor? Like you guys said too, that's gonna put
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: push us over the edge and and qualify as for
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: the World Cup. Maybe I think he can have a
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: piece in it if he's you know, level between the
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: years and and he and he's ready to go, and
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: he's in form and all that for sure, because he
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: has the talent. The talent is there, But is he
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: gonna Like I said, I don't think he's the one
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: that's gonna is gonna move the needle for this team.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: I think it had like we've said timeless times on
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: this show, you know, it's gonna have to be the unit,
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: the team, the collective that's gonna have to move the needle,
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: not not the one player because personally, in this Italy,
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: our best player is between the sticks. Our best players
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: between the sticks. Ruma and I would put I would
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: put Tonali in there because I think in that midfield
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: if to now he's not there, it's a different midfield.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: If he's there, You see the difference. It's it's clear
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: with the eyes for me personally. Other people can disagree.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: That's fine, you know, but who's our leader? You know
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: we're gonna depend on a Ki is that that's been
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: out of this at Judi camp for since when I
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: think it was the Euro right. The Euro lost was
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: the last time the last game of the Euro twenty
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: twenty four was the last time he he uh he
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: suited up for freely. If I'm not mistaken, he's been
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: the out of the loop a bit, so you know,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: if you want to integrate him back into the loop,
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: you know you're gonna have to kind of find that time.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: But now we're on a bit of a time crunch
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: where I don't know if it's the right time. So
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: again for me, I I it wouldn't. I guessaid, I'm
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: not gonna cry over it. I'm not gonna lose sweep
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: if he doesn't get called up or if he refuses again.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's gonna be a big big
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: thing in the papers and in the Italian papers and
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: on social media. I know, we you know, just because
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: of the name and who he is and the situation
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: that are in, you know that's going to get talked about.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: But again, guys, I wouldn't lose sleep over it. We
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: should have enough quality with the players available, hopefully again
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: knock on, knock on wood. You know, Budy Cordiny that
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: you know people are are healthy and and and ready
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: to go came March. I know tomorrow is when we'll
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: know kind of who will face in the in the
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: first match, and we need to win and then and
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: then kind of see where we go from there and
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: who we play next. But yeah, I just yeah, I
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: just circle back to mentality and not having a leader,
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: like who's the no, I don't know, I guys, I've
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: lost of words sometimes with this national team, which is
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: which is crazy because I don't think we have a
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: leader like Jijo whar's the armband? But I don't know,
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: there's nobody on the pitch that's a that's a that's
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: a real leader in my in my opinion, so we
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: kind of locked that. And again I don't think it's
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: a guy like he has that's gonna take that role on.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: So in or out for me, it doesn't matter. We
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: should have enough quality, uh to like we said earlier,
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: to to go out win and let's get into the
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: Let's get into the World Cup, and then we'll see
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: and then we'll talk because once it is in the
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: World Cup, our problem is getting into the World Cup.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: But once we're in the World Cup, then you know,
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: things can kind of you know, with a bit of luck,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: with a bit of this, with a bit of that.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: You know, things can things, things can happen, right we
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: we've seen it in tournaments. Italy is a tournament team.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: Once they're in the tournament, it's you never know what
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: can can really transpire. You know, you can go all
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: the way, you can get disappointed, you can kind of
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: go a bit further than expectation. So let's just get
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: into the World Cup and then and then maybe we'll
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: be able to talk more.
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: Guys. I feel like, you know, we're on the topic
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: of the World Cup. I know we won't have time
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: to talk talk about this week, but two last things
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: I did want to bring up about Italy went about
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: the World Cup in general. I just want to share
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: this with you guys. A comment we got on Instagram,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: the only comment we got. We posted if you know
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: people's thoughts on Italy and the World Cup qualification. This
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: one's from Brazil. So I I didn't study Portuguese to
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: not pull it out. At some point on the Counter
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: Guys podcast, Italian car SANGI knows all those dais uh
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: Italy will go to the World Cup. Uh gtuso is
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: gonna put blood into the eyes of these players until
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: the World Cup, you could be certain of that. So
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: I just wanted to share that. Pull out the Portuguese.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: Uh so thank you, almost like Anglo accent.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: They're gonna criticize you.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's okay, I'll take it, but I didn't want to.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: I say, I know, I know we have Well, what
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: hope that fucking comment comes to the reality. I don't
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: know what will save it. We'll see that what was
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: the name Carolina, Catalina.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: Cornelia dot mk.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, God bless you, you know what, like Spadiamo. Let's
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: hope you know that that that that happens because we
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: have no choice. Yeah, so we know.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: I think it's like forty two of the forty eight
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: teams now in the World Cup. Obviously a lot of
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: the you know, major players are there, but a lot
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: of new teams or teams that haven't made the World
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: Cup in a long time. Is there one team you
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: guys are excited to watch because I think for me
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: it's maybe two of the teams in Conker Calf Haiti
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: obviously here Montreal, big Haitian community. I'm happy for them.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: I think nineteen seventy eight or nineteen seventy four, they
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: haven't made the World Cup. I think that will at least,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: you know, make it fun for people here in Montreal.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: I know Johnny, especially Sad Michelle, a lot of Haitians there,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: so that will be a part of time come June
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: when they played. Not sure they'll do well. I mean,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: you know, we see Canada play them sometimes. Not the
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: best team, but Kudasao I think is one team that
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: they're growing. They went undefeated in qualification first round. I
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: think they went four to oh second round. They had
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: three wins, three draws. And this is a team that
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: uses a lot of players from of Dutch descent who
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: actually played in Europe. So it is a small island
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: nation one hundred and fifty thousand people, but a lot
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: of these players are from outside the island and play
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: for the Corrison national team. I think they could be
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: not I'm not sure if they'll have any impact, but
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: it's just a team to watch. It's it'll be interesting
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: first World Cup we'll see I think there that's definitely
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: a name that well we'll talk about a lot come
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: kudasaw almost like Canada in twenty twenty two. I know
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: Canada is not a small island nation of one hundred
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: and fifty thousand people, but Canada had made its first
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: World Cup, was a growing first World Cup at a
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: long time, was a growing team team. Uh So I
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: feel like could have that same impact.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: Uh to pull up the list, bro, I don't even
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: know who I mean.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: I think I think I have mine already. Besides, obviously,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: you know host nations in Canada because that's our you know,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: our home country and whatnot. I'm excited to see Japan Japan.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: Every World Cup seems to like the most recent World
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: Cups seem to have this like crazy game at least
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: in one of them that they beat a former world champion,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: or they beat they surprise and beat a team that's
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: ranked much better than they are. It's always fun watching them.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: It's always fun to see that, and it's it's a
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: nation that has really picked up on their like they've
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: always been big on soccer. They've always been really big
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: on soccer, and it's just been been more and more
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: surprising as the years go by. Besides that, I'm curious
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: to see if Morocco is able to repeat their run
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: that they did a few a few years by, where
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: they went all the way to the Semis. I'm curious
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: to see if they're able to repeat that.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that I doubt that they will.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying enough that they're able to either build
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: up on that or if they inspired other African nations
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: to be like, guys, we hit the Semis, you guys
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: can do it too, and you know, maybe maybe see
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: af CON probably get their first world champion. I on
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: a realistic point of view, I don't see either an
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: AFCON team winning the World Cup. But and I say
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: this like sincerely, I wouldn't be surprised if the team
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: makes a push. I wouldn't be surprised because it's it's
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: it's been picking up. I uh so. But if I
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: have to choose one team besides obviously Canada, I want
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: to see who Japan beats. I honestly, what kind of
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: run Japan goes on for this World Cup?
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I listen, I have no fucking opinion on this
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: because I don't know. I didn't have time to prepare.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: But joking aside, like you know, I guess it's it's
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's a big you know, applaud for for
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: some of these these debut uh Nations. You know, you
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: see the you know, the cap Verds in there, you
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: see the Jordan's, you see the uh you know use
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: Bekistan right, uh, you know kind of Artos use Bekistan,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: which again I don't know too much about, but you
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: know we kind of pull obviously for for our Italians abroad,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: I guess if you will. So let's see if they
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: make some noise. You know, you know, he took that
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  Speaker 1: job and seemed to do pretty well and you know,
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  Speaker 1: good enough to be able to make the World Cup.
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  Speaker 1: And I find that exciting. I think another team that
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  Speaker 1: has been around, but you know, whatever you know in
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  Speaker 1: the in the UEFA would be would be maybe like
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  Speaker 1: a Scotland maybe I've heard some positives you know, in
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  Speaker 1: in and around you know the Scotland camp there. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, we we see some of the Scottish talents
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  Speaker 1: in Seria, right with mcdomminay and you know Gilmore and
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  Speaker 1: and other players. So you know you kind of you
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  Speaker 1: kind of maybe hope for some of these young but
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  Speaker 1: these these lower uh you know, you waveh Nations to
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  Speaker 1: do well. But you know, other than that, I think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, besides Italy having to get into this you know,
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  Speaker 1: I just want to see Canada make that next step
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  Speaker 1: as well. You know, it's it's enough and it's of
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  Speaker 1: the Okay, well now we're here and let's you know,
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  Speaker 1: hopefully do something like I want to see we want
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  Speaker 1: to see a win. We want to see a win
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  Speaker 1: in the World Cup, you know, we we need we
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: want to see that as you know, as Canadians. Right,
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  Speaker 1: So are they Are they there yet? I think I
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: think everybody has a different opinion on that. Personally, I
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: think I think they're there, but I think there is
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  Speaker 1: still another kind of level to to to achieve and
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  Speaker 1: to kind of get to. I don't think they've they've
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  Speaker 1: put all the pieces together just yet. And and that's
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  Speaker 1: fine because I think this is a continuous building block
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  Speaker 1: of a nation, right So I I would be delighted
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  Speaker 1: to see them pick up a win if it be
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  Speaker 1: at home. I think that would be even more electric
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  Speaker 1: and one of those other you know, Canadian heritage moments
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  Speaker 1: right that we like to say. But I think besides that,
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  Speaker 1: I think is is and the other things that I
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: mentioned about, you know, the debut teams and and use
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: Bekistan for Canavado, and you know, maybe Scotland because I've
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: heard some good things about them, so and just even again,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: I know, we get kind of caught up with, you know,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: the superstars, and you know, you know, it's it's it's
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: always a big talk about the superstars, superstars. But you know,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: a player like Ronaldo, a player like MESSI, you know, Maditch,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: you know, going to what is it a sixth World Cup?
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken for these guys, for these players
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: I was reading, is it five or six? Now? Should
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: be six?
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  Speaker 3: Would be six? Twenty six?
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it would go on to six. So you
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: know what, it's just another it's another thing just to
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: touch on, just because it's it's it's just remarkable, like
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: one of them making one or two, but going to
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: six straight like it's it's it's really impressive, and it
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: just shows how much of a class above you know,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: these these these world stars, these superstars are all right.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: So you know, again, love them or hate them, have
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: your opinion on them or or whatnot. It's as fine,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: who's better, who's to go with all that all that
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: good stuff, But I think it's just it's commendable to
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  Speaker 1: be able to be playing at a high at the
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: highest of levels for this long and still be you know,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: relevant enough to to be entering and potential and going
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: to be participating in your six World Cup. It's just
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: it's almost unheard of. So again, just you know that
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: that would be another talking point as well for about
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: who's gonna surprise and who you're interested about, But just
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: another thing to to kind of of kind of no
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: doubt because for me it's it's super impressive and these
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: guys are going into their forties and they're still producing
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: at a high level, So it speaks volumes for for
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: for those types of players.
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  Speaker 3: Crazy. The thing is gonna be twenty years since the
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: six World Cup.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: Twenty years Oh my god, where's time gone?
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: Twenty years since it will even last waning a knockout
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: game in the world. Hopefully they're there to.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: Well tomorrow we we kind of see where tomorrow we
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: see what we what we get? What what's the first
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: what's the what's the entre right for this uh for
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: this thing? But one thing I want to kind of
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: say before we wrap this up, and and I know
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: we're kind of uh short on time here, but you
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: mentioned Sadiya Nick before we kind of had the ticket
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: going on on on the screen there the games and
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: what the times or whatever, but Sundays the Derby de
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: la Madonnina, right, It's it's a It's obviously a big
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: game in Saria, obviously for the two Milano teams, but
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: here locally, it's gonna be a it's gonna be a
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: big matchup as well. Again I'm biased because I'm part
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: of mill and Cole Montreal, but Milan Cle Montreal partnering
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: up with f C Supra for a watch party Actre
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: Charros here in St. Leonard In in Montreal, should be
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: a big event I've heard. I've heard some good, good
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: rumblings about it. You know, behind the scenes, you know,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of the FC super staff obviously our our
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: our buddy and president Rocco Patentino. I think Nick, the Santists,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: the coach, some of the other guys are are going
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: to be there, so along with us from me and
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: CO Montreal. But it's an open event. It should be
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of fun to kind of
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: get the local flair that we've kind of touched upon
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: with f C Supra and a local fan club here
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: in the city right for for me and CO Montreal.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: So it's a good initiative. I think it's it's it's
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: the start of many from what I've been hearing, uh,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: things they want to kind of do in the community.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: So again, uh, it's it's just it's just a cool
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: thing that I just wanted to put it out there.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: FC Supra collaborating with me and com and sall MEO
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: and intered and I know Rock was an inter fan,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: so it should be fun, uh to kind of go
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: back and forth with him. So any listeners that are
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: that are available Sunday to forty five to Charles is
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: the spot to be for the Wi Delo Madnina in
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: collaboration with uh MI and FC Supra, So we'll be
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: there and uh personal Nick, I don't know, I can't wait.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, culture guys will be there. Maybe not Jenny though,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: but you know the drill working people. Yeah, find out media.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: That's kind of how I wanted to end off the show.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: And again, guys, I know this was kind of a
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: doom and goom kind of negative episode to an extent
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: with some with some positives sprinkled in. But like Nick
• 1:11:53
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• 1:11:54
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