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Wild Update 11/14/2023 · Banter with the Boys

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You're listening to banter with the boys talking all things sports from bedding and
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Get laced up.
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It's time for banter with the boys.
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Hello everybody and welcome back to another episode of Rinkside Chirps.
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I'm your host Kevin.
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Today with me we've got Kyle and Smelty.
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Smelty, how are you today buddy?
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I'm tired.
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Just got here straight from work and going straight back to work right after but here
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to talk some wild for a little bit.
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Kyle, welcome back buddy.
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How are you?
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I'm doing good.
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I can't wait to talk some wild have been on a downward spiral but we're going to take
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some positives out of it or at least try to find some positives.
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But yeah, there's plenty to get to here so hope you guys enjoy.
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Alright, with that we got a few different topics we're going to talk about today.
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The very first one we're going to talk about Marco Rossi, Kyle's favorite player to talk
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about.
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He's got elevated as the last couple of weeks.
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He's gotten an elevated position with the downturn of some of our offense.
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I know currently right now he's with his normal lineup but he had a bit of an elevated performance.
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Kyle, what are you thinking so far about Rossi and his new line?
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I like it.
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This team needs a spark and the first line needed a spark and Rossi has provided it.
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He just looks comfortable to me playing with Corril.
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I didn't know they were going to move Zuccarello too.
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You put Boldy with Kaprizov and Rossi, skill on skill on skill.
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Good things should happen for sure.
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But recent games, Dean I think broke that lineup.
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Don't know why but I think, well, Ballysports North has been atrocious lately.
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I haven't been watching.
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I think I took like a three game, four game break because Ballysports North was having
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a hard time connecting and we're paying, you know, whatever and it wasn't just my server,
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it was everybody's server which is annoying.
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But now they got it fixed.
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But I did see that Dean broke up the line again and went back to Zuccarello and Hartman
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for a bit.
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Don't know why but hopefully Rossi can stay on that line because that's been one of your
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bright spots right now.
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Well, now as of this morning I think he broke everything up even again.
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I mean, he got injuries and stuff so he's moving shit around.
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But I mean, I think you got to leave that line together.
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I mean, it's kind of like the youth movement, right?
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It's kind of our three top guys, Coril, Rossi.
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I mean, I know Coril, we were waiting forever for him to get here.
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Rossi fell right in our lap in the draft which nobody expected.
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So then we had excitement with him.
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And then Boldi has just been kind of a nice little, I mean, developed into a nice player.
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So like I think these guys just need more time to play together.
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I mean, how are you going to know what you got with them together if you keep changing
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it up?
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And I know hockey's, you know, keep changing lines up, getting different combinations,
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see what's working, see what's not.
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But you got to give it a little bit more time, I think.
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So I agree.
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I think personally looking at the stats right now for those four games where they were paired
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up, this is some of my crazy notes that I've got.
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So I've got-
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Wait, so the four games that it was that line?
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Correct, yep.
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Okay.
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So the four games, it was November 2nd against the Devils, the fourth against the Rangers,
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seventh against the Islanders, and then the ninth against the Rangers again.
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We had four games where that lineup was together.
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It was Rossi centering Boldi and Kaprizov.
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Again, I agree.
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I like that elevated role.
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I think it's a great lineup.
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Would I have liked to see Zuccarello in there for a touch?
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Maybe a little bit just to see just Kaprizov and that Zuccarello kind of chemistry come
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back a little bit, maybe.
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But I'm not like upset about that not being the case.
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I like the fact that Boldi got a shot.
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Kid's been playing well.
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He's back from the injury.
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I'm hoping he can stick it out.
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So personally looking at the stats from those games, I'll go just game by game real quick.
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First game, November 2nd against the Devils.
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That lineup combo had two goals, three assists.
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Second game against the Rangers, one goal, two assists.
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Third game against the Islanders was one goal and an assist.
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And then the fourth game, which is I would assume probably why they got disbanded, they
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were the second line, not the top line.
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They got zero goals, zero assists, and they had a total of about six shots amongst the
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three of them all game.
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So their performance dwindled over those four games.
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What was the fourth game again?
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That was that ass Rangers game.
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That was at.
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Yes, it was really bad.
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The whole team, the whole team, the whole team sucks.
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I'm not surprised they got zero points.
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So how many points total then in those first three games?
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First three games, four goals and six assists in the first three games total.
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I'm not mad about it.
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You get some performance, you get some production.
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Obviously you had Kaprizov is the number one guy.
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He had two goals for himself.
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Rossi had himself a couple of goals and then Boldy was the assist king there.
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He had two, three, four assists in total.
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So I'm not mad about it.
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Yeah, I'm not mad.
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I'm shocked after one game.
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I mean, that was probably all bad.
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I mean, bad play from everybody.
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Yes.
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Dean decides to break up that line and go back to the other line.
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Yeah, I don't understand that.
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I mean, yeah, like you said, I'm not too disappointed with that.
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But I don't get why go back to the, I just, I don't get it after Dean Evison's soul,
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you know, like especially what we've seen through a year.
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I mean, Ryan Hartman and Zuccarello, Kaprizov, that line has been together for what?
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Since Corrella's got here pretty much.
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So to just completely go away from that after three games when something's clicking.
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But again, like the last game obviously was a bad performance, but that kind of doesn't
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really add up to me.
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Did either of you guys catch the game yesterday?
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What an ass whooping that was.
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What was the top?
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What was the, what was the Corrella line yesterday?
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Because I can't remember.
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I know I watched a good chunk of it and then was disgusted.
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But what are you talking stats for that line or what?
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I'm just saying like who was on his line yesterday?
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Like what line did they?
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Let me pull it up here in two seconds.
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Pretty sure it was Zuccarello and Hartman.
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And Corrella, okay.
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I think they mixed it up.
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Like it was, yeah, it was like a mix.
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So thank you to the, the morning puck.com.
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I will shout them out later as well for some stats that I have about the defense.
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But line combinations last night were again, Kaprizov, Zuccarello and Hartman on the same
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line again.
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They had a single goal last night with one assist.
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Total of five shots amongst the three of them, an average of about 15 ish minutes of ice
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time amongst three of them.
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Again, thank you.
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The morning puck.com not sponsored, but their stats are awesome.
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15, huh?
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That seems.
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Yep.
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So Kaprizov, what the what were the rest of the lines time?
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Yeah.
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So Kaprizov on that line was 16 minutes, 49 seconds.
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Zuccarello was 1627 and Hartman was 1302 bringing the average down a little bit.
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What's the average of the other lines?
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So Pat Maroon, Eric Snack and Foligno 1324, 1930, 1533.
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So about 15 minutes for the Foligno line.
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Boldy, Johansson, Rossi, probably about a 16 minutes average there.
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And then Connor Dewar, Vinnie Lettari and Brandon Duhame anywhere from six minutes to
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14.
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So you probably call it about 10.
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I mean, they did take what eight penalties that game.
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So a lot of it, a lot of it was special teams by the way.
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Sure.
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So that's actually going to skew those numbers.
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Yeah.
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It was.
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Yeah, it was.
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I don't know.
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Eight penalties or something like that.
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There was something ridiculous.
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Stupid.
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It was bad.
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But we can we can definitely talk about that game here in a little bit.
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So thinking back to the Rossi elevated play, I'm happy to see his production there again
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over those last four games on that line.
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He had a goal and a couple of assists, which I'm not too upset about.
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Again, his ice time kind of dwindled towards the end of it.
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Not the greatest, but I would have liked to personally have seen that lineup stay the
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same if anything, maybe drop boldly down and put Zuccarello back up there again.
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But disappointed to see him drop back down in the lineup.
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Obviously last night with the lineup there, he was on boldly and Johansson's line, which
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of course they didn't produce anything.
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Rossi and Boldy did have an assist, though.
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So that's that's kind of what I've got for the Rossi elevated play.
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Kyle, you have any final thoughts or smellsy?
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Anything else?
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No, you nailed it.
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I mean, I want to see him like with the top line.
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I don't want to see him going back and forth here.
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So it's only been three games since you elevate him to the first line.
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And then you're I mean, I get that the team's struggling a bit, but man, you just leave
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your skilled guys with their skilled guys because we we definitely need it right now.
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Yeah, no doubt.
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I mean, I think I'm going to these next few games looking forward in general, I think
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it's just something more for I know me to pay attention to because I played goalie,
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so I'm more of a goalie guy anyway.
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Not that I don't pay attention to the game as a whole because you have to.
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But I just it's just something to keep an eye on, you know, for me personally, like
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the different line combinations.
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Let's plug him in there.
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Let's plug him in there and really see if there's some sort of not rhythm, but I think
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rhythm is a good way to read them chemistry chemistry or just something as far as like
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what Dean's trying to do.
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That's what I'm that's what I'm trying to say is like he keeps changing it up.
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So I want to try to see if like try to get in the mind of Dean like what is he seeing
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that he's trying to do?
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I don't know.
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Just yeah, I'm just curious, you know, at the line combinations going forward for sure.
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We'll talk about that in a little bit.
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So but yeah, I don't understand after him just being so so, you know, what's the word
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consistent with lines throughout, you know, the years we've had them deciding to change
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the almost like refusing to change refusing.
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Yes, exactly.
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So yeah, we'll see what happens, though.
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And moving on to our next segment here really quick.
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I want to just talk about the current state of the wild right now as it sits today is
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November 13th, Monday.
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The wild are currently at a record of five wins, eight wonderful losses and two overtime
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losses currently on a three game losing streak.
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With that being said, the last week we had a little bit of shuffling going around.
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Kailin Addison got traded, sent him out to San Jose for pretty much as as smellsy mentioned
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a second ago, some loose change.
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We sent him off.
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We ended up getting a player in return, which didn't produce anything in the A.H.L. and
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also a sixth round pick.
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And in turn, we additionally got Zach Bogosian for a seventh round pick, only a twenty five
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thousand dollar difference in salary cap from Bogosian to Addison, really just being a six
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man demand to six man demand.
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Maybe Judd Brackett can nail that fifth round pick.
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Maybe that can turn on to do another Capri soft, but we'll see.
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We can only hope so.
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I'll see what were you going to.
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Did you want to kick us off here with the Addison trade?
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Yeah, no, just confirming we gave up or we got back a fifth round in Adam Rasca from
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the Sharks for Addison and a lot of wild fans freaked the hell out about this situation.
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I follow a lot of random fan pages on Facebook.
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It's all Facebook's good for for me.
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But other than marketplace, buddy, you're my marketplace friend marketplace.
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Yeah, way too much time.
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Anyway, I get why people are upset because he's got an offensive potential and we've
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seen that obviously.
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But there is absolutely been no sign of any defensive potential for me personally.
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So like the fact that he was already sitting kind of started giving you ideas that he was
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probably they're looking to move them.
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And then the fact that they did also told me that Spurgeon would probably be back either,
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you know, very, very soon and he was back next game.
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So and then they go out and get Bogo, who's more of a physical force on the D line, definitely
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going to be our in our third pairing, but bring some size and a little more physicality
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to our defense, which I think is needed.
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Yeah, I guess we'll see how Addison does in San Jose.
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He'll probably thrive, you know, because anybody the while get rid of thrive typically, although
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you don't hear too much of Grandlin and Charlie Coyle much anymore.
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Yeah, there's definitely been a few quote unquote busts, if you will, going elsewhere
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out of out of Minneapolis here out of the state of hockey.
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But thinking about I did see an article that was written with Addison making a quote, something
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about how he didn't really expect it, which to me is kind of sounds weird.
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I'm pretty sure he did know it was coming.
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But also he said it was a new opportunity for him.
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I think a change of pace is good.
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Change of scenery is good for anybody, regardless of who you are.
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To your point, I do believe that he was on the way out.
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There was rumors and there was some some comments written in articles that him and Dean didn't
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really get along.
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Dino wasn't very pleased with his performance and just wasn't very happy just in general
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with him.
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And then it's just like, who knows how much money Addison will actually garner because
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he's on a one year deal right now.
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We signed like a one year prove it deal.
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So far he has approved it.
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But like even so, maybe we just knew we probably weren't going to keep him anyway.
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So you just had to kind of, you know, in a way, get what you can for him.
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Give him a shot.
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Yeah, no, I think I'm sorry.
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No, you're fine.
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I'm just saying now we got some young guys coming up that can maybe get some playing
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time.
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What's the name?
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Damian Hunt, Damon Hunt.
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He's helping you right now.
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The Wilderness, you know, get some get some of these guys some more NHL experience and
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see what they can do.
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Yeah, we got Murmus here right now.
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I know Hunt is on the trip at the moment as well.
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He's played a couple of games recently.
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And Kyle, you're kind of our our local.
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What's the term I'm looking for?
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Lead hockey mind.
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Yeah, they got a lead hockey mind.
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Yeah, I know you're more of our prospect, our prospect guy.
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What do we got going on in Iowa as far as the defense is concerned?
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And that'll bring us to our next topic.
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I will.
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So, Damon, Damon Hunt's your guy.
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But like looking, I mean, with Jack Peart's, you know, with St. Cloud Petro, I don't know
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how to pronounce his name, Petrovosky.
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He's Czech.
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He's good.
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Carson Lambos.
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I mean, there's a lot of young talent coming up in the Minnesota Wilds prospect pool for
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defensemen.
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But yeah, I mean, the trade kind of surprised me a little bit just because, I mean, it's
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still early on in the season.
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And it seemed like Bill Guerin and Evison kind of gained Addison's respect going into,
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you know, like making the team and stuff.
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As soon as the Wild changed up their power play, I think it was like I think this was
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multiple or this was probably probably a couple of days before the trade.
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They they sent out five forwards and Addison wasn't the guy up top on the powerplay on
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the powerplay.
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Yeah.
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And I was like, OK, that's weird.
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And then not the next day, but I think it was the following day he gets traded.
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And I was like, oh, that's probably why.
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Yeah, I I thought he would bring a little bit more power play.
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I mean, he definitely he shot the puck a lot, but the pucks weren't getting, you know, they
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were either getting deflected, they weren't scoring goals.
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I'm kind of surprised they don't have Faber up there, to be honest with you.
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He brings so much to so much offensive spark.
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So I hope Faber gets a chance at at P.P. one or I mean, because I think he's so dangerous
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with the puck and he just he deserves a chance at least.
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I mean, but no, that trade kind of did take me by surprise just knowing the, you know,
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the skill he has.
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But again, I didn't none of these games I was like, oh, wow, Kaylin Addison.
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Like look at him.
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Like he he really, you know, played what he was prior best defenseman like.
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And you know, knowing Garen and Evison, if you're not going to play defense, your your
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ass is getting shipped.
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You know, he he got the opportunity and he just didn't produce.
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And you know, he we said goodbye and he's out of here.
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And hopefully we get a decent prospect with that fifth round pick.
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Well, speaking of prospects and picks talking about some of our defensive woes as of late
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again, we're on a three game losing streak right now.
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The boys need some frigging help.
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I got a little bit of numbers here, boys.
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I'm not quite sure how they'll all kind of stack together, but let me pull these together.
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So lack of consistency on the defensive pairings for me has been one of the veins of our
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existence personally.
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As of again, thank you to the the morning puck dot com again, not sponsored, but these
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guys have incredible stats.
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Super cool to work with.
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They have had 12 different defensive pairings this entire season.
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Fifteen games in 12 different defensive pairings, most notably Kyle's favorites, the number
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one defensive pairing in the league.
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Brodean and Faber paired up 10 games total the season so far as a as a defensive pair
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and then 10 games for Murmuss and Middleton.
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They got a total of six together, including last night's game.
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So the lack of consistency for me is probably part of that.
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I don't know how many block shots we've got.
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A lot of the defense is blocking shots, getting in the way.
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But we need some help.
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Goal tending hasn't been great either.
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But similar to what I've always heard in soccer, it's not the goaltender's fault.
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If the ball gets to him, it's already kind of a lost cause.
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Similar to hockey.
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It's not always the goaltender's fault.
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You got five other guys in front of them.
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But your goaltender does need to be your best penalty.
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Great, agreed, absolutely.
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And last game, I think, was a big proponent of that.
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You're on the PK eight times last night.
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But our defense needs some help.
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But when you're on the penalty, penalty kill, like you said, eight times, that's obviously
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a lot.
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Usually it's not that much.
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Right.
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But even two, three times, dude, that's kind of unacceptable as a goalie.
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Like you're now you got to keep an eye on everybody and they're they're going to have
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a man somewhere that's not covered and you just need to know where he is in your brain
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at all times.
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If he moves over here, now he's got to move over there in your brain, too.
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You just got to know where he is at all times.
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So I mean, playing from playing on a penalty kill all the time, you're playing from behind
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already.
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It just sucks.
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Like you're losing energy.
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It's just it's just not it's unacceptable to me.
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I'm disappointed.
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And with our defense right now, we're at sixty three goals against this season, which is
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second frickin highest in the league behind Kellen Addison's new team, the San Jose Sharks
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with sixty six.
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So we're really not that far off from being the worst in the league of goals against.
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Did your what is it called?
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Morning Puck, the morning puck.com.
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Did they the morning puck dot com?
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Did they do they do they have any numbers on like odd man rushes or anything like that
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or breakaways?
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OK, that's that's the thing I've noticed.
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The games I have been able to catch at a at a length.
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You just see the odd man rushes all game or or straight up breakaways like you can expect
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your goalie to stop them every time.
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Now I will say there's some there's some shots that are just they're literally floating in.
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You would think you would you'd be able to save that.
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I'm no NHL goalie, but you would think you'd be able to get there and they're just not
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getting there.
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So I will say the goalie play also is just not good right now, especially from Gus.
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Flower seems like he was kind of getting it together, played OK in the shootout, but also
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lost a shootout.
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So it's.
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I don't want them to bring up any other goalie right now, but they brought up Wallstead just
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for that trip that's coming up to Sweden.
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Obviously we talked before we started recording probably as a an emergency backup situation,
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but not kind of what it is.
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But I think I think, you know, if your defense in front of you is not playing well, I mean,
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you're not going to play well either.
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You can play out of your mind and still not play, you know, still not put win games.
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I agree.
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So but I'm not saying it's all on the defense.
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I mean, the goalie play is definitely part of it.
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I mean, as a whole, the team as a whole is just I don't know.
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We'll get into that when we start talking about some Dean.
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But we're in the dumps.
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Don't get it.
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Yeah.
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Yes, we are looking at it right now, though, on a little bit of a positive note for the
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defense.
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The captain, Jared Spurgeon, has returned from injury.
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He's been back for a game or two now.
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Have you guys seen his play at all?
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How do you think he's feeling?
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Do you think he's back to full 100 percent?
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Do you think he's still milking or not milking it, but still kind of recovering?
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And they're just like, dude, we need you to figure it out.
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Still kind of getting back used to game speed, I think, because he didn't even play a game
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yet this season.
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You mentioned under the day that he had actually been regular season.
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I think it was the last preseason game is when he got injured.
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I think I can't remember.
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But like, I know even if it wasn't, it was the first game of the season then or something.
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It was dumb early.
21:24
So I think he's just easing his way back into the rest off.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Spurgeon has been OK, but yeah, he's still still knocking the rust off.
21:35
But boy, does Middleton need Spurgeon Middleton's a minus seven on the season.
21:42
He hasn't looked good at all, which kind of surprised me because last year he was just
21:47
so consistent.
21:49
But again, he's with Spurgeon.
21:51
So hopefully that pairing can get it together because we desperately need it right now.
21:57
We need something.
21:59
But also it does hurt that Gidgerow is out too.
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I mean, special teams, you know, he's our penalty killer, you know, with him and Nack
22:06
out there out front with Spurgeon out there too.
22:10
So you know, I think the penalty kill will get better when when we're, you know, 100
22:16
percent.
22:17
But right now they need to grind out some games very quick because the central division
22:23
is super competitive.
22:25
We all know that.
22:28
So they're just going to have to grind it out and hopefully not get not get any more
22:32
injuries here.
22:34
Hopefully we can stay out of the box.
22:35
Hopefully we can stay out of the injury reserve list.
22:38
Time will tell as to how things are going to go with our defensive woes.
22:44
Moving on to our next segment here, we did touch a little bit on the goaltenders here
22:48
so far this season.
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Obviously, we have a goaltending tandem of Philip Gustafson and Marc Andre Fleury.
22:54
Last night's game was was pretty abysmal.
22:56
Not much there else to say on that one.
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But Spelciano, you got some thoughts on attending the goaltending this season so far.
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What do you got, buddy?
23:03
I mean, just looking at at the tandem as a whole, right?
23:08
You know, honestly, to me, I thought Gus was going to come into this season and just kill
23:11
it.
23:12
To be honest with you, he wrapped up the season pretty well.
23:16
And I was like, OK, I felt kind of confident with Gus being our number one and then Fleury
23:19
kind of being our number two, especially after game one.
23:22
Yeah.
23:23
Yeah, right.
23:24
The Panther game.
23:25
And I thought that Fleury would would be fine.
23:27
And Fleury's kind of starting to play better now as the games kind of go on as he's starting
23:31
to get into the season.
23:33
But all in all, they still look rough.
23:35
I mean, if you just if you're just looking at a stat line, right, which is nothing special,
23:39
anybody can do this.
23:41
But if you take a look, I mean, Fleury's three point four one goals against and Gus's four
23:47
point six four goals against.
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I mean, that is just oh, my God.
23:53
Even Fleury's is bad.
23:55
But Gus at four point six, dude, are you kidding me?
23:58
That's bad.
23:59
You can't.
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And I know the defense is playing bad.
24:01
I know that.
24:02
And I and I do blame the defense for a lot.
24:04
But like at some point, it's on you as well.
24:07
And like you were just mentioning, Kyle, before we even started getting going on the pod,
24:11
how both goalies are under 900, say percentage.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Flowers at Flowers at eight seventy nine with Gus at eight seventy two.
24:19
It's bad, bro.
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Yeah.
24:21
Fleury and Gustafson have allowed four or more goals in 10 of 15 games this season.
24:27
Holy shit.
24:28
The Minnesota Wild are one in eight in those games.
24:31
Well, yeah.
24:32
One eight.
24:33
No, one eight and one.
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Yeah.
24:35
Yeah.
24:36
I would imagine if you're going to let up four goals a game, you're losing that shit.
24:40
Yeah.
24:41
So I don't there's no answer.
24:43
There's no there's no answer for this really.
24:46
No, you don't bring Jesper Walls set up.
24:49
That is a bad idea.
24:51
Leave him down there.
24:52
Now he just got called up again, like we've already mentioned for their little trip to
24:55
Sweden, which makes sense as an emergency goalie.
24:58
I would imagine he would practice with the team might as well.
25:00
What else are you going to do?
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But I don't think he's going to play.
25:05
I think you need to wait till next year for him.
25:07
Now I think if somebody approaches a while, they're like, hey, we want flower on our team
25:11
so we can make a cup run, which I don't see anybody doing right now.
25:16
You know, go for it.
25:17
Probably.
25:18
Right.
25:19
I think he'll play a flurry jersey someday because I still think it's crazy that he's
25:22
playing for my Minnesota Wild.
25:24
I never would have guessed he's still a Hall of Fame tendy, but it's it's the end of the
25:29
road for him.
25:30
Gus, this is not a good look for Gus either.
25:35
I think you do expect to see Jesper up next season, however.
25:39
Yeah.
25:40
Oh, for sure.
25:41
But yeah, they it's one game at a time.
25:43
That's the only way I see any light at the end of the tunnel here for the Minnesota Wild.
25:49
Just grind out a game, win one game, you know, use that momentum in the next game.
25:55
Kind of like what the Vikings are doing right now.
25:57
Just stacking up wins.
25:58
But yeah, they just got to grind it out.
26:00
They can't bring anybody up.
26:02
So it's it's going to be it's going to be a challenge for them.
26:06
But if you hey, if you if you win one and you know, you got some momentum on you, you
26:11
can go on a roll.
26:12
You can go on a roll.
26:13
You tons of teams have done it.
26:15
So yeah.
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Well, like I said before, we're in a three game losing streak right now.
26:18
If somebody were to get hot, get a couple of goals under our belts, I feel like the
26:21
big thing for the Wilds who is we're always playing from behind.
26:24
It's not very often where you come out into a game and we're playing with a two or three
26:27
goal lead.
26:28
It's hey, we've got a single goal lead in 30 seconds to five minutes later.
26:32
Good luck.
26:33
Or we're just getting shit on and we're we're losing.
26:35
That's like we go.
26:36
It's like we go on the penalty power play goal, you know, especially the teams that
26:41
we played.
26:42
I mean, I don't know what the star I know the stars, the the Rangers, the Islanders,
26:48
the Sabres, I think all of them are in the top 10 for power play percentage.
26:52
And so they're only what did the stars go five or five or five or five and then two
26:58
short handed goals.
26:59
I mean, it was it was crazy.
27:02
Yeah, I saw the article that Russo had written.
27:04
I think it was Joe Smith because we're supposed to have something.
27:07
He mentioned is a tweet from or is a mention a quote from the head coach of Dallas saying,
27:13
if you're going to give us those, we're going to make you pay for it.
27:16
And it's the exact same thing that we saw last year in the playoffs and in Vegas when
27:21
the board was in Vegas.
27:22
Hundred percent.
27:23
The board is always the same thing.
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Yeah.
27:25
Yeah.
27:26
He's got a number and there's not much we can do about it.
27:27
And especially if you play like hot garbage like we did yesterday, you get an eight to
27:31
two or eight to three just ass whooping and it ends up taking Marc Andre Flurry's goals
27:36
against average before last night's game.
27:39
He was a two point seven five after last night's game.
27:41
He's up to sponsor's point of three point four one.
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OK.
27:45
So we're still at two point seven five point seven five.
27:47
That makes sense.
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Yep.
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That makes sense, because like I said, he was playing better as of late.
27:53
Like I said, I read the stats for since we last recorded the last pod, which also was
27:58
not including last night.
28:01
Holy crap.
28:02
Sorry.
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Which I don't know if somebody wants to do some quick math here.
28:05
I didn't I didn't get the actual percentage, but we got on one hundred and eighty six shots
28:12
against flower gave up 19 goals.
28:16
So I don't know what that percentage is.
28:18
I'm not a mathematician off the top of my noggin.
28:21
I got to ask you something about 10.10 percent roughly.
28:24
It's about 10 percent.
28:26
Sorry.
28:27
So you're saying it was one hundred eighty six shots.
28:30
He led in how many goals?
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Nineteen.
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Nineteen.
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So we 19 divided by the one eighty six would be sorry.
28:35
The way around.
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No.
28:37
Yeah.
28:38
Nine point seven eight nine point seven nine, so almost 10 percent nine point seven nine.
28:44
That's not bad.
28:45
It's not great.
28:46
But wait, did you say nine points?
28:48
We're doing our math wrong, bro.
28:49
That's the number.
28:50
But I can't you guys.
28:53
Anyways, that was fun.
28:59
Let me ask you, Tyler, are you surprised?
29:02
Are you guys surprised?
29:04
You know, I know last night's game was just so bad in all aspects of the game.
29:10
But if you were the coach, would you would you pull flower when he's when it's the fifth
29:18
or sixth goal or or or or, you know, I know, like, let's say, you know, why wouldn't you
29:27
try to spark anything?
29:28
I get that, you know, the game's pretty much almost over, but just I feel like it doesn't
29:35
do the team any good, leaving flower in that for the entire game.
29:42
But yeah, like even after the fourth or fifth.
29:46
I mean, change up something.
29:48
Right.
29:49
Like, I know Dean Evison has been one of those type of guys where he hates to pull folks.
29:53
I figured it out.
29:54
We didn't move a decimal point over.
29:56
No, you got to divide the number of saves by the number of shots.
30:00
So it comes out to be an eight, nine, seven save percentage.
30:04
That makes sense.
30:05
Yeah.
30:06
So I work really not mathematicians around here here at Bennett with the boys.
30:09
So good save.
30:10
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
30:11
But yeah, so so not horrible.
30:14
Right.
30:15
And that in that blank in those games, which would have been 12 games that I accounted
30:21
for again, 13 being last night, which I didn't add to this.
30:26
Flower was three, three and one.
30:28
And that that one is a shootout loss loss.
30:32
And then he also had a shootout win in that.
30:34
So trending in the right direction.
30:37
But we always we talked about it in the very first episode this year to that flower tends
30:41
to play well in the beginning of the season and then taper off towards the end of the
30:44
year as well.
30:45
So do you say Kyle's point?
30:48
Do you think it would have been worth pulling him in that case there?
30:51
I'm not mad about Dean Ebison leaving him in there.
30:53
To be quite frank, we didn't play well regardless as a team.
30:57
Let the boys fight back.
30:58
Let them try to find something because I heard also in the postgame interview with Ebison
31:02
that he was telling me that he was saying players on the bench were saying, go out there.
31:07
Don't turn pucks over.
31:08
Don't turn pucks over.
31:09
And that exact same person would go out there, turn a puck over and then they would just
31:12
kind of get all in their heads as well.
31:14
So I'm not mad about him leaving him in there, letting him all try to fight back and fight
31:18
for something.
31:19
No, I'm just worried about like confidence wise.
31:22
I mean, eight's a huge number, right?
31:24
Eight's a huge number, but he was passed out for two.
31:26
Yeah.
31:27
I know Flurry is, you know, he probably just doesn't give a shit.
31:31
Like, he's like, oh, well, okay, not my fault, but like, that sucks.
31:35
But at the same time, I feel like if I were to let up five or six, like by the sixth goal,
31:41
I think I would lose a little bit of confidence.
31:44
And I don't know if, I don't know.
31:46
Like I've never been a goalie, but like.
31:48
Yeah.
31:49
And you're honest.
31:50
Like I've played in a couple of leagues at Mariucci and stuff and, you know, I'm kind
31:53
of a civ.
31:54
So like, you know, after like that fifth one or whatever, I'm just kind of like, it is
31:58
what it is.
31:59
Like it's not going to get better than five, right?
32:02
I just don't want that number to hit six now.
32:04
And that's kind of the mentality that you got to get in when you're having a rough game
32:07
like that.
32:09
You know, it's almost, it's, that's almost harder for me than like, if I have five minutes
32:16
left in the third and I'm borderline shut out, which of course now I get nervous because
32:20
I like getting shut outs.
32:21
But like, it's almost harder to not let up that six goal than the one for the shut out.
32:27
You know what I mean?
32:28
Like.
32:29
Right.
32:30
Mentality wise, right?
32:31
That's what I mean.
32:32
Yeah.
32:33
Okay.
32:34
But yeah, I was just like, so six goes in, seven goes in.
32:35
Now you're at eight and I feel like that would just, I don't know.
32:41
He's also been in the league forever.
32:42
I know.
32:43
Right.
32:44
And he's professional so like today he probably woke up and was like, new day.
32:47
Well, that sucked, but let's fly.
32:49
I gotta go get it.
32:50
You know, you just have to go get it again.
32:52
Yeah.
32:53
If you love it, you have to go get it.
32:55
And I think I, again, I'm not mad that ever let flurry sit there and marinate in that
33:00
one because everybody marinated in it.
33:02
It wasn't like flurry got to take the easy way out after two goals and then Gus came
33:06
in and gave up six.
33:07
It's no flurry gave up all eight and the guys in front of him played like dog shit.
33:10
I'm not mad that he left him in there.
33:12
I think it was kind of an awakening, which he also talked about this morning as well
33:16
was today's practice was going to be a whooping.
33:19
And from what it sounds like, it was.
33:21
And I don't even think Dean Evison has ever really pulled any, any of our goalies if they
33:26
even had a bad game.
33:28
Like he definitely has.
33:29
Well, not a lot.
33:30
He does not often.
33:31
No, no, no.
33:32
He just let him in there.
33:33
He likes to, he likes to let the guys fight for it and then try to pull it back together
33:39
for the team and for the group.
33:40
Well, I mean, if we're done with goalies.
33:42
Yeah, we might as well talk about Dean at this point.
33:45
Let's talk about him.
33:46
What, what does he have to do at this point to get to light a fire?
33:49
I mean, who knows what happened at practice today other than more new line combinations?
33:53
No, I don't know.
33:55
Maybe maybe new line combinations.
33:57
There was, there was a skate, I'm guessing a lot of skating, a lot of a lot of Herbie's
34:03
lightning drills.
34:04
It's going to be an ass.
34:05
My assumption from my understanding, it was an ass whooping.
34:08
I mean, you can't go eight and two or three against the stars.
34:11
It's the team that that took you out last year in the postseason and let them just walk
34:15
you like that, especially against all the penalties that they took, all the undisciplined
34:20
penalties as well.
34:22
Like don't freak.
34:23
You know, obviously don't get me wrong.
34:24
They went down a guy because of a five minute major in a game misconduct for, for the cross
34:28
checking or whatever call against, I think it was Duhaime.
34:31
But still, I mean, there's been so many slow starts this year, like first period alone.
34:36
I think I don't know how many I've seen yet, but there's been at least a few games that
34:40
they've had three or four shots.
34:43
They just come completely like come out flat and it's like, like, here we go again.
34:49
Like why this is like Mike, yo era right now.
34:53
Like is it right now?
34:54
I mean, like Dean or not, you know, if stuff isn't working and they continue to not work,
35:03
I really think Dean's on the hot seat.
35:06
I mean, we saw it with what's his name?
35:08
Woodcraft or from the oilers.
35:10
He just got canned.
35:11
He go to, I think the oilers were like two and eight, like worst team in the NHL and
35:15
they won the next night and tender.
35:17
Yeah.
35:18
And they saw the next game.
35:19
Yeah.
35:20
I, I don't know if he lost his, if he's lost the room or not or,
35:23
Well, that's, I think that's a question you have to ask at this point because he could
35:30
have that.
35:31
I was literally thinking of that to myself on the way over here.
35:33
Like I don't think he has, but it's really starting to trend that direction.
35:37
Like our guys just not, not taking what he's saying.
35:41
And there's a lot of, yeah, there's been so many games where they're just off to a slow,
35:46
slow start.
35:48
Like first period is just a dumpster fire.
35:51
And then they come back in the second play better.
35:53
And then you're playing catch up at that point.
35:56
So it's really hard.
35:57
That was to catch up.
35:58
It's hard to win games when you're down, down a goal or two.
36:01
But yeah, like it's, it just seems like he may have lost the room or something.
36:08
So,
36:09
So I, I think to that point, who just came back two games ago, your captain, if your
36:14
captain's not in there with you guys every day playing in those games, you're left within
36:19
three assistant captains, which was Eric Sinek, Kaprizov and Folino.
36:23
Kaprizov obviously is learning English.
36:25
He's way better with English and he's been speaking up a bit more.
36:27
Eric Sinek, we know him as a little bit more of a timid player, but he will stand up for
36:31
everybody and Folino, I think as I'm going to, I'm going to throw him in here to go over
36:36
a Dumba spot as well, where he was very vocal.
36:38
Every article that I read about the assistant captains when Dumba got traded out and Kaprizov
36:43
got the A was Dumba was very, very vocal.
36:46
Kaprizov had to fill those shoes.
36:47
You lose Spurgeon, who was your captain, who obviously is kind of like a squeamish mouse
36:52
at some points is not very vocal.
36:54
We don't know what happens behind those closed doors.
36:56
After the whooping last night was a very long closed door meeting.
36:59
I'd love to know what happened in that meeting because right now your captains need to step
37:03
up.
37:04
I will give Spurgeon credit.
37:05
Your team just gets shit on eight to three or eight to two at home on hockey fights cancer
37:10
night and what happens after that long closed door meeting?
37:13
Spurgeon goes out there, talks to Kevin Gorg and takes on the chin.
37:16
He's your captain answering those hard questions.
37:19
Wes Walls as much as everyone hates him.
37:21
He said the exact same thing I just said and I appreciated him saying it because he's true.
37:25
It's a hundred percent right.
37:26
Your captain's got to be the one being vocal, stepping up there for you guys.
37:29
And did Dean lose the room?
37:31
Has he lost the room?
37:32
I think he might have.
37:33
But also who is the leadership in the group?
37:35
You just your captain hasn't been in there for two, three weeks.
37:40
Who do you got?
37:41
You got Kaprizov.
37:42
Maybe he's up there screaming.
37:43
Which is really weird because Spurgeon isn't he's not vocal.
37:47
And honestly, I think Maroon is pretty vocal.
37:50
I think Folino is vocal.
37:51
I think when Zuccarello is pissed, he's vocal and he has been kind of pissed lately, rightfully
37:58
so.
37:59
But yeah, like I'm just I'm disappointed with with the play that we've had so far.
38:03
I don't think Dean's lost the room yet, but I agree.
38:07
But it's trending.
38:08
It's yeah, it's yeah.
38:10
It's not looking good.
38:11
I'll predict it here.
38:12
This is now the second losing streak we've had this season.
38:15
The first one was four games.
38:16
We came back with a win.
38:17
Now we're on three games.
38:19
We have a few days off until was it like, I think Thursday or Friday, maybe Saturday
38:22
when we play in Sweden, which is great.
38:25
If we if we lose that game and come back here, maybe lose another one.
38:30
I think Dean's gone.
38:31
Oh, you think he's gone this early?
38:33
I think he's gone.
38:34
Oh, wow.
38:35
Don't get me wrong.
38:36
Bill Guerin has a lot of things to take on a lot of things that he has to look into.
38:40
But right now we've got two years until our cap space is taken care of and we have a shot
38:44
of the cup potentially because we get that money back.
38:47
Oh, you're saying in two years.
38:48
I was like, we have no shot at a cup.
38:50
No, no, no.
38:51
In two years when we get our money back for the Parisian suitor contract.
38:53
I think in this right now, it's a lot of just make it through, make it through, make it
38:58
through.
38:59
Well, and that's the thing that frustrates me about all these wild pages and all this
39:04
crap talking on BG.
39:06
Like first off, he didn't sign suitor and Parisi to those freaking deals.
39:10
Second off, the suitor and Parisi deals are tied for seven for the biggest NHL contracts
39:14
of all time, of all time.
39:17
You know who else freaking did some shit like that?
39:19
The Chicago Blackhawks.
39:20
They signed Patty Kane and Jonathan Tay to big deals the same year they won the cup.
39:26
They did not win another cup after they signed both those guys to such massive deals because
39:30
you can't build the rest of the team around them.
39:33
You can't.
39:34
Pittsburgh went out and won a cup after signing Crosby and Malkin to two massive deals a few
39:40
years after they signed him.
39:41
Crosby signed his in 13 and Malkin signed his in 14.
39:45
But like, and they won in like 16 and 17 or 15 and 16.
39:48
I can't, no, no, 15.
39:49
I'm sorry.
39:50
It was Blackhawks then Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, 16 and 17.
39:53
But my point is, is like, it's so hard to build a team unless you have a crap ton of
39:58
young guys.
39:59
That's why people are so frustrated with BG signing Zucks Hartman and Fulino to such
40:08
three, four year deals.
40:10
Kind of bigger deals for those types of guys.
40:12
Those are bridge deals, people.
40:14
That's to get us through these two years and to stay competitive.
40:17
If the Wild weren't competitive, the state would start on fire.
40:21
It already is.
40:22
And they're upset that we're losing.
40:23
What do you expect?
40:24
You can't do anything about it.
40:25
That's where I'm at.
40:26
What do you expect?
40:27
And people getting mad at BG for something.
40:28
He really had, he's trying, he was handed a mess and he's trying to clean it up.
40:33
That's what he's trying to do with no money.
40:35
Yeah.
40:36
So I don't think you can do anything until those two years.
40:38
Also building a pretty good prospect pool.
40:40
That's what I mean.
40:41
Him and Judd Brackett, yes.
40:42
Like 100%.
40:43
As much, I mean, we all want the Wild or any Minnesota sport team to win a championship
40:51
someday.
40:52
State of hockey.
40:53
Allegedly.
40:54
Now we are.
40:55
As I was going to say, but yeah, it hurts to say it, but you guys just need patience.
41:06
Give these younger guys to develop.
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Wait till Souter and Parisi's deal go out the door.
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And then you got the, you know, the free agent class after that looks pretty, pretty nice.
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You got Leon Dreisaitl right up there.
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Offer him the bag.
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But you can't really judge, you can't really judge Garen too much yet.
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Just because there's, you can't do a lot right now, but it'll be really interesting and fun.
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I'm going to predict the most fun when he has all this money to play with.
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No, and I 100% agree with you.
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But yes, we just have to stay patient.
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I know it hurts.
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We've been patient for 23 damn years, but there is light at the end of the tunnel here.
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And what you said, like we have a good prospect pool.
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That pool keeps gaining experience and growing.
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And then we hit the free agent market?
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Dude.
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The market has been on fire for the most part with his picks.
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Last year was a little bit weird.
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Still don't know about Straml, but we'll see how he does at Wisconsin this year.
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But yeah, other than that, he's, I mean.
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It's the fairweathers, sorry.
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But it's the fairweather fans that don't pay attention to prospects.
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They don't understand.
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They just see Minnesota wild and they live here and they're like, oh, we should be amazing
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because we're the state of hockey.
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No, we're the state of hockey because a lot of people grow up with damn skates on their
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feet.
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So I think first round picks.
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That's what I was just going to say.
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Fletcher's era.
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We traded everything.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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I think those fairweather fans are surprised because at this point they don't know what
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the hell to do with the prospects that we've got now because they're always been traded.
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To your point, it's the Fletcher era of trading everything we've got for something in the
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moment for a bridge one year, two year deal for some whatever that does nothing for us.
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And we got nothing in return.
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They go off somewhere else and they're successful elsewhere, but not here.
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So I love the fact that Garen is keeping the young bucks here trading in for more and more
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players.
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I want to see the prospect pool and Judd and those guys really be successful because then
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you get players like Kaprizov, you get players like a boldy or Rossi that maybe get looked
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over or overlooked by somebody else or maybe you can play.
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Yeah.
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I mean, you got two Russians, Russian studs coming up with Marek Kuzma, Dinov, Yurov.
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I mean, those two are the future is bright.
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Yeah, they just got to get there.
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Get out of your tunnel vision.
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We just yeah, we just got to see the bigger picture.
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You see the bigger picture and it's tough right now.
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I mean, again, around a three game losing.
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This is a second three plus game losing streak so far this season.
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So I wanted to touch on that.
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I finally found those lines that I was talking about.
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Oh, for practice, they changed it up on practice today.
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Talk to us.
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This is from your boy Russo.
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Hey, shout out, Mike Russo.
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The big he says, I'm just going to quote all of this because it's good and it's on Twitter
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X whatever.
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Russo says no, Coril Caprice off in today's wild practice.
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Nick Patan is it Patan or Patan?
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I can't remember.
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That's what I thought.
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Patan a placeholder on Coril's line.
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So the big change in practice is a reunion of last March's dominant, Yon Hanson, Ericsson
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Act, Boldy line.
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Rossi was a Corrello and Patan, Coril and then Hartman between Maroon and Foligno.
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That's a beefy line.
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I was just about to say, honestly, that's why.
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Like just leave that line.
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Yeah, Hartman.
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That's a perfect third line right there.
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Don't change that.
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That's a that's a that's a big line.
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Boy, yeah, that's a big line.
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Yeah, don't mess with that line.
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I'm not mad about that.
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Thanks, yourself for the insight.
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Yeah, as always, I know Russo is a huge fan of the Bandit with the Boys podcast.
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So great to have him contributing.
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We'll have him on here in the future.
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Hopefully.
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Funny enough, he did.
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He did shit on Kyle once.
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I did ask him what are your thoughts about Russo or what was it?
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Brodean and Faber about I said, yeah, the best the best tandem.
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Yeah, best tandem in the NHL for the defensive pairing was Brodean and Faber.
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One of the LOL.
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You wait.
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So you messaged her.
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So I said, did you?
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I didn't see it.
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And he said, I said, I said one of the best.
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Yes, not the best, but one of the best, if not potential to be the damn got an LOL from
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Russo.
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I think it's a good take.
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I love Russo.
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I mean, Russo is great.
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I like people hate on him.
45:23
He'll just say I'll just have to wait.
45:24
Like, I have to come on the banner and if we're so come on, step up, you know, for finally
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healthy and Brodean and Faber together, just watch out.
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Watch.
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Just watch them and we'll see.
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I mean, they're plus minus seven plus seven for Brodean plus three for Faber.
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But yeah, they've been split up through this whole mess because the defense have been struggling.
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So 10, 10 total games with those guys paired up this season in 15 games so far.
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So two thirds of the season, they've been paired up together.
45:53
I'm not surprised to see those numbers plus seven plus three for those two guys.
45:57
Obviously, Faber is a young buck.
45:59
I'm not upset to see that.
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So no, and he did make that one mistake.
46:02
I forgot what game it was.
46:04
But it was it was that pinch.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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After that, though, he was like, yeah, I shouldn't have done that.
46:09
100 percent.
46:10
He's like, yeah, that's that's an adult.
46:12
That's a mature hockey player as an adult decision.
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That is that is a man's taking that ass chewing for your mistake.
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And I love it.
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Own up to it.
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Tell everybody what it is.
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And that's just how it goes.
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I love it.
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So rookies make or yeah, rookies make mistakes.
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So I agree.
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I'll just learn from it.
46:29
I agree.
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Well, boys, this has been a fun one.
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This is a good a good little stopping point here.
46:35
Coming up next, you have the Sweden game.
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Guys are traveling playing this weekend in Sweden, bright and early 10 a.m.
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Central time.
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So make sure you got your coffee ready to go.
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Watch the boys play in Sweden.
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It's kind of a fun, fun little thing at the NHL is doing this year.
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Some overseas games.
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Well, any parting thoughts for this episode?
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No, I I'm hoping for a wild six, six, one, six, nothing win for the for the wild.
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This this next game here in Sweden.
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You got the you got Brodean in his hometown.
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You got Wallstead in his hometown, even though he's not playing.
47:08
And then I think who was the other Swede?
47:10
Oh, Eric's neck, Eric's neck.
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So they're nice, nice little house party in Sweden for them.
47:17
So hopefully, hopefully a six, one win.
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That's that's my prediction.
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It'll be a fun trip.
47:22
Smelsey, what do you think, buddy?
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Oh, I don't know.
47:28
I was pretty bold.
47:29
It's probably gonna be a close game.
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But I think I think I think they win.
47:32
I think they win.
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If it's not six, one, it's it's going to be a three to four to game.
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We win.
47:38
I just want to see improvement from the team as a whole, whether we win or lose.
47:44
Yes, a win would obviously be an improvement.
47:46
But depending on how we lose, it could potentially be an improvement as well.
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I just want to see our play be better.
47:52
And stay out of the damn box and stay out of the damn box.
47:55
I think I just saw that's another one.
47:56
What was it?
47:57
I put my computer away now, but I think do I do has do I my bad?
48:02
Yeah, has 34 penalty minutes.
48:04
Yeah, leads the team.
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He took leads the team.
48:06
I think one last game.
48:08
I think Akwas second at 24.
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So that's that's quite a I mean, that's come on, man.
48:13
Get your shit together.
48:15
Yeah.
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And if you don't take penalties, I think they're in majority of these games.
48:19
I mean, they probably win a couple.
48:21
Who knows?
48:22
But yeah, they just need to stay out of the box and power play needs to be a lot better
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too.
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We can talk talk about that on next episode if it doesn't improve next game.
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But they got a score on the on the power play.
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My gosh.
48:36
And stop giving shit up on the penalty kill at the same time.
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That's pretty much the special team.
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The game is a whole the wild need to improve on right now.
48:44
Who would have thought, right?
48:46
Well on that note, boys, this has been a great episode.
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Thank you guys so much for your time tonight.
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It's been great to hang out with you and talk some wild puck.
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Well, make sure you like comment, subscribe.
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Please make sure you check out the next one.
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And yeah, boys, we'll see in the next week.
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