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Bank of America's $1.2 Billion Fine, ICE and ID Checks, and Who Funds the Progressive Left · KSEV Mornings with Craig and Wayne

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And now, the mob guys Craig Coglianese and Wayne Dolcefino
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It is the Mob, guys!
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On KSEV Radio, I am Craig Coglianese.
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Wayne Dolcefino is on special assignment.
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Lots and lots of things to talk about today.
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The U.S. Treasury Department announced an enforcement action that's going to impose more than 1.21
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billion in penalties against Bank of America, the second largest bank in the
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United States, even though I basically just said the report. I'm gonna go ahead
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and play Fox News' version of it so you can hear it a second time and then we
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will discuss it because I do think that this is pretty important, pretty
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interesting as far as announcements go. Here we go. The Treasury Department is
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imposing a 1.2 billion dollar fine on Bank of America for allegedly violating
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anti-money laundering laws and sanctions. The fines on America's
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second biggest bank amount to the third largest in the department's history.
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Yeah, it's the third biggest one.
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Apparently it'd been too bigger, but money laundering would be bad as a bank.
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It'd be even worse, of course, I probably think more often common than anywhere else.
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But yeah, this is a big deal.
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This is a big slap, I think is the way that some described it, and any sort of ties to
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politics.
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Here's the thing that's so funny to me.
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You raid, I'm not saying they're connected, but you raid Ilhan Omar's home, and then you
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slap a fine on a bank for some money laundering stuff and you start hearing some of these stories
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and you go, oh, I hope they're all connected. Like, oh, I hope it comes out. And you find this and
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that and this olive branch led to that olive branch, whatever it is. And eventually you have
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a more valuable discussion about something that I think most of us care about, which is the receipts.
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Because, and I'll say it the best way that I can, very often in my opinion, I have conversations
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with people who know something is true.
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Like you say it to them, you're like,
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Talarico, let's use that example in the flu.
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They know it's not the flu.
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And I feel like I know it's not the flu.
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So I feel like I'm a part of that group.
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And yet you can't actually publicly say
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with 100% certainty that it's not the flu
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until you get the receipts.
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And it's the most annoying caveat.
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I got a good buddy of mine who's a MAGA guy,
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I guess is what you call him.
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He's told me multiple times that at any point
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during the presidency, he would have taken a bullet for Trump.
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And awesome dude, I like the guy a lot and I'll tell you that one of the things he gets frustrated with me about is
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When we're agreeing on something and then I say but you know, I can't know that for sure
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Because of course you can the context all the little pieces matter. You can't know it for sure. There's always a surprise
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There's occasionally I shouldn't say always it's actually very rare. It's the exact opposite of always it
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So there's almost never but occasionally there is a surprise when you feel like the logic has been worked out
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So incredibly well that you know something definitely and that's the only annoying piece I have
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With some of the ways that stuff gets talked about
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On the side of the aisle that I'm on on the side of the aisle that I voted on since I was 18 years old
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Is that when you say you know a thing and you don't have any proof that you know it
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It harms you more than you think with the independence and not that it matters
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But with the Democrats because everything hard harms you with the Democrats and actually I'll say this too
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And I feel like I've said this before in the show, but I always think about it in the context of this discussion
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And then I'll move on to another piece of audio. I have
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Charlie Kirk to me going back and watching him is a tamer
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Middle of the road in some ways Republican. That's who he is to me
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I know that's not who he is to the left and I know that there's certain issues where he was very much
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On the corner of what people would say is the the more extreme
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conservative position. But by and large, I think there was a lot of things that
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Charlie Kirk was willing to discuss and land more in the middle on. He was,
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you know, perfect in his own views. His views didn't falter. He wasn't unsure of
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where his position was. I'm not saying that there are times when his
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position was malleable. It wasn't. But there were some things where
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conservatives would show up at his events and scream at him that he was
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soft, that he was not strong enough, and they killed him. And what I can't understand about
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that idea is that there are people out there who think that, you know, you need to be tougher to
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fight back in this. You do. You don't need to bend the knee and wilt, but that the left hears all of
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it as insane. They hear all, they even hear the people that I think are more in the middle in the
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party as nuts. And I think you got to accept that, that you're not going to win over the people on the
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left by talking like them. The only people are the people in the middle and I think all
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they really care about is proof. If there's even that many people, I keep asking that
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question and I don't know if anybody can give me the answer on it. How many people are truly
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in the middle or how many people do you believe are genuinely independent voters? Because
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I just don't think there are that many. Now I want to point out another thing to me. And
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And by the way, I should specify before I move on, because Chris Salcedo's voice is
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in my head, as I'm saying that I don't think there are that many people in the middle.
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I do think there are a lot of people that no longer feel they're associated with a political
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party.
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I do think that's different, because I think a lot of those people who feel that they're
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not associated with a political party, by and large, vote Republican.
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And the reason they vote Republican is because they don't like government itself.
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and the only party willing to, it seems, vocally say or promise to tear down the broken parts of
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our system are the Republicans. So there are a lot of people that will say, I'm America first,
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I'm not a Democrat, I'm not a Republican, but you're not an independent because if you look
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at it and you vote a whole lot on one side of the aisle, you don't function the way an independent
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functions, at least from the conversations we have as talking head people as pundits saying that
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there are more than two sides.
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I just don't think that's true.
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I think that there really are people that overwhelmingly vote one way or overwhelmingly
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vote the other way.
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And I think the biggest question someone asked themselves, and this is insane that
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this is where we've gotten, but do you trust the government?
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And the left somehow says no, but yes.
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Because like the right always says no.
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I feel like the right's been saying no to that question for a very long time because
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you shouldn't.
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The government is the least trustworthy thing that exists in our country.
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Anybody that's from the government with an exception of like a handful of people I can think of
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By the way, Senator Paul Betancourt is one of that handful that I can think of that I exclude from this
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But by and large there are people that you can't trust about anything. They're slimy
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They're exactly what you think they are on both sides
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And so sending those people off to enrich themselves as Stephen A said to start the show is
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Something that most of us hate on both sides and yet Democrats keep voting for them. I don't get it
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I want to play this before we take a break. This is interesting to me
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This is Will Cain raging. Well, at least that's the way it's described. I don't think he rages
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I think some of the people rage at him more than Will Cain rages on Fox about the
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Hypocrisy of the left that they say that they hate
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Billionaires they hate very rich donors flooding money into political races
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But apparently they take a whole crap ton of that money on their side will gain with a really good reporter very big chick checks
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behind the Democrat Party Socialist Surge.
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Now we have an idea, a better idea,
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of who's bankrolling the progressive left
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and where that money is going.
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So let's take a look at it over at the wall.
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We're gonna start with the biggest donor on that list.
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It's Sycott Chakrabarti.
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He is AOC's guy, former chief of staff.
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He's a tech entrepreneur.
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He ran himself for Congress and he raised $13.4 million.
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But a lot of that money has now been rolled into
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a super PAC that he is distributing among the progressive all-stars in this campaign.
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Let's take a look, in fact, at some of those who are benefiting from the money he's spreading out.
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It's Justice Democrats. It's Abdul El-Sayed. It is Claire Valdez running for Congress.
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It is Daria Lisa Chevalier out of New York running for Congress.
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It is Chris Rab out of Pennsylvania running for Congress.
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This money is pushing these candidates, pushing the party for their left.
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Now, some of the Democratic Party's most recognizable donors are also financing this movement.
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To no surprise, George and Alex Soros are distributing money through progressive candidates
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and committees.
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Deborah Simon is a long time Planned Parenthood supporter.
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She's giving $3 million.
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Denise Sobel as well, $1.3 million.
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She's going to be a major contributor to Planned Parenthood.
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I'll stop it right there. But I think Wil Kane does a really good job when he steps up away from the desk and walks up to his little screens and pushes his clicker and shows us what's going on. I think he's one of the better shows in Fox right now, to be honest with you. And the reason why is this is that he usually brings the receipts with the discussion. And these are these are powerful. These are a demonstration that, guess what? Anybody that you listen to on that side, that claims that they want the billionaires out, even though they make themselves billionaires when they go into office.
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They want the money out. They willfully and gladly accept it as long as it's coming into their pockets and not the opposite
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Five of the twelve biggest donors for some of these crazy giant super packs that will was talking about also backed
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Zoran, Mamdami who said to said again that he doesn't like millionaire and billionaire money
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But he took a crap ton of it to to get elected
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So I just think that's fascinating and deserves to be a better focus
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often of how we discuss this stuff because when someone says I think
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Talarico runs these ads himself
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That, you know, he hates billionaire money, doesn't want any of it. He's a grassroots campaign.
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It's such crap. And they know it's crap. And they say it anyway because they think that you can't go look and prove that they're lying.
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Or they hope that you don't go look and prove that they're lying like Will Cain did here.
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A quick break. We've got a lot to talk about, a lot to get to. Already running out of time to do it.
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I'm thrilled to be here on The Voice of Texas, KSEV radio, The Mob Guys.
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I am Craig Coglianese Wayne Dolcefino on special assignment this morning.
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KSEV radio 700 a.m. This is the voice of Texas. My name is Craig Coglianese.
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Wayne Dolcefino is on special assignment. He does really like Abby Phillip show
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and I think he likes it more for Scott Jennings than anybody else. Wayne does.
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One of several shows in CNN that sounds like he watches on a nightly basis, which
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I love that he picked that assignment. Any show I've ever worked on that has more than one host
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and does politics, somebody has to do the CNN assignment to watch some of that. You don't have
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to watch all of it. I'd go insane if anybody required that. But at least some of the late
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night shows and see interesting stuff and Wayne will text me something he saw. I love that I'll
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have to do that. I never want to do that. I do have a clip from Abby Phillip that I do want to
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play with Scott Jennings as a part of it,
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going back and forth about real ID and other things.
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And I do think again that like Jennings does,
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Yeoman's work.
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He took a job that I would never take.
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I don't know how much money Jennings gets paid for CNN.
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I feel like I can look that up.
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I'm kind of curious because CNN paycheck,
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I'm Googling it right now, because no matter what it is,
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I feel like it's not gonna be enough
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for what he actually has to do and how ridiculous it is.
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He's worth about a million bucks
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or his salary, excuse me, is $500 to a million.
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All right, maybe I would take it.
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But nonetheless, let's play a little bit of audio of Scott arguing with Abby Phillip
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once again, because this is basically a nightly thing on that show.
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There have been many examples of that.
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They are also being picked up indiscriminately, having their car windows shattered by immigration
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officials.
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Why?
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Well, according to their immigration officials, he did not listen to their instructions and
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he was released an hour later.
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So I mean so but why what is he was you're showing them solicit?
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He's was showing them his real ID. I'm sorry. That's already a great interaction where they're like, how dare you?
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I he's probably supposed to generally an indication. We'll see
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Legal immigrants get ideas in this country all the time
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No, no Scott real IDs you cannot get a real ID unless you have
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documentation of your
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special legal staff. How do they know what was his? Here's the bottom line.
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Botches right. The real ID, Scott? Of course.
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Botches right. But why not just look at the real ID
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and determine whether or not it actually belongs to him as opposed to shattering his window and arresting him. It's a simple question.
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If I were driving down the road and got pulled over and the police came up to my window and gave me instructions and I didn't follow it, what would happen to me?
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Yeah, but hold on. Smashing in my window. That's what would happen to me.
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First of all, follow the laws. Yes! Ghost College.
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that there.
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Yeah, I just have it right there.
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I think I'm done with Abby Phillip.
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Here's what I love about it.
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First, the real ID argument, because someone somewhere is always going to find one of those.
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I think we're doing that with the Talarico timeline, where like there's no way that the
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timeline makes sense for Talarico potentially coming out of that mental health facility
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and then winding up in Austin at a music event later that same day that the flight took off
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and landed in Austin.
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I love that that's a thing, and that the lady who was resistant on the phone call that was
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made where it seems that she confirmed that Talarico was at this facility in Ohio.
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Not that I say definitively that he was.
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I still can't tell you definitively yes or no there, but I find it so funny that she
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couldn't have flubbed it by one day too.
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Like somebody doesn't have an ID that's not them but kind of looks like them.
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And actually this is not the same, but I can't help but tell this story.
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I really want to tell this story and we'll do it.
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I went to Holy Cross, which is the Rudy School that is somewhat connected to Notre Dame.
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It is not in fact Notre Dame. It is nowhere near as hard to get into Holy Cross.
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And not many of us transfer into Notre Dame. I was trying to go that road. Not many people
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actually do it. And then I decided for several reasons not to try that road anymore. But when
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I was at Holy Cross, we would go to the Notre Dame football games. And some of us would get
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student tickets. I think they set aside a certain amount for Holy Cross kids. And if you didn't show
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up and didn't get one, then you weren't getting in. And so a lot of my friends did a passback thing,
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Which is similar to the people who get into a bar illegally or whatever it is
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And I'm not saying this is the same as law enforcement the dude standing outside
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That's grabbing your ID and letting you into a football game
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He is not trying as hard as a cop who's pulling you over on the side of the road
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But the things we got away with with the physical ID and the photo of it and you passed it back to another kid
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And that kid also got into the game
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Was ridiculous and there were people that at least looked at it
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So am I pretending as though as Abby pretending as though
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people don't attempt this in other ways?
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You know, because maybe you looked at the idea
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and you didn't think it really looked like the guy
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and that's not a conversation that's being had right now.
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But maybe that was a problem.
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Am I even my current ID?
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I think if I look too nice, it doesn't always look like me.
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That's the thing that happens.
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But my favorite part of the Notre Dame story,
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not that I should tell this in the air, but I will,
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is I remember when we went with a few different guys,
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one of the students who was a legit student had an actual student ticket was a black guy and the
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only kid that wasn't in yet was a white kid and when we dropped the ID down the black kids like
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this there's no way this is working there's no way that our buddy is getting in with a black
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guy's ID as a white person and he put like the hoodie tight in his face and he got in and it was
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is hilarious to us because the one kid thought his ID was gonna be taken thought we were gonna
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get in a bunch of trouble like that was a moment when you could tell that maybe these people
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weren't checking very well. So again, the story doesn't really
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have the relevance to connect it to something like this. But do
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people attempt to pass off an ID that is not theirs when they
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need to do it for all kinds of reasons? As Scott Jennings is
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pointing out, the answer is yes. And to this day, I think
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there's still a joke about Steve and Nick being brothers, which
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are their two names, Steve Henderson and Nick Strom. And
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they are definitely not at all related. In fact, they are very
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much not related and look nothing like each other.
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But that's because they got in together.
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And it's amazing how often people in media pretend as though this one little detail is
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definitive proof that something didn't happen.
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When human nature will tell you that there's a lot of scenarios where that won't actually
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be enough to preclude this, you know, it won't be enough to dismiss the story from potentially
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still being fact.
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And the same is true of the Talarico thing.
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When the woman on Saturday says that they released him
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I think last night is what she says and the flight doesn't fit because it would have been yesterday morning
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There's a chance the woman is thinking it's Friday when it's Saturday
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She's thinking it's the eighth when it's the ninth all that kind of stuff
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And she could say yesterday when she really meant two days ago
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I just I just find that amusing but anyway other things out there to get to real quick
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Let's do a palate cleanser and then we'll take a break in about a few minutes
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would you want to be buried in a Pringle can?
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Was a question that people asked online.
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I can't help this.
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I don't know why this stuff is so stupid.
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It's obviously if you were cremated
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and then somebody wanted to be buried
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in one of these things,
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because it's much cheaper than going the other road.
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I don't know why you bury yourself.
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If you cremate yourself, there's questions I have.
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But someone, a grand prize winner in the afterlife
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will get a Pringle supply that'll last 200 years.
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There is a once you drop it campaign.
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I'm sorry, I'm not explaining this very well.
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There's a deadline for it that says that you can apply,
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you can get Pringles for life.
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And I think it's only like $28,000 worth of Pringles
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because you get one can a day.
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But this snowballed on the internet
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as it's one to snowball because it's a 200 year offer
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and no one's gonna live for 200 years
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into whether or not you'd keep getting the Pringle cans
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after you died and whether you would bury yourself in a Pringle can because that's how the internet works
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they hear one thing and they go as crazy as possible with it and
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The answer for most people online by way by the way to the silly question was no, they would not do that
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However at a cost point and this is the whole reason I wanted to talk about this topic
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Because I've made this joke with my own family
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I kind of don't want them to spend money like once I'm gone once the gone part is over
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I'd rather have and I don't know what anybody thinks about this, but it's definitely true a Viking funeral
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I want them to put me on a little rowboat one that we got relatively cheap
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I had one when I was a kid growing up that had a lot of holes in it
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You shove it out into some water
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Somebody with good aim shoots an arrow and lights it on fire and that's it. That's the end of me
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I want that and I think there are other people out there who want a cheaper thing too because the last thing I want
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At the end is for another bill to be paid for by not me
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I want somebody else to not have to handle that so I've often advocated somewhat sarcastically
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Mostly seriously for a legitimate Viking funeral just me on a rowboat into the middle of a pond
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Or lake in ocean if we can do it
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I'd rather not have Galveston if I was gonna pick a body of water here
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I probably would pick something a little bit further down
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South of us than Galveston
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But beggars can't be choosers you shove me out you light me on fire
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you let the whole thing go away and that's it. It's gone. It's over. And I'm done. And I'm grateful
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for all of it. That to me would be great compared to the amount of crazy things that people spend
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on some of this stuff. But a Pringle can is too far. And I love again that the internet asks these
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kinds of questions because the internet is ridiculous and undefeated when it comes to
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stupidity. And honestly, I'll say this, I actually often say this when I talk about a topic like this.
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This is why the internet was ruined by serious stuff.
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Ken Paxton, James Talarico.
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radio Alice Cooper bringing us in that's nice now it's not Alice Cooper
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that's a song he wrote that didn't he who's actually singing this one
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oh yeah okay that's where my brain was going my bad but welcome to the show is
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now a super song to admit I'm fine I got that wrong I thought it was I thought
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we're just Alice Cooper and like crazy over here this is this is the voice of
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Texas I am Craig Coglianese Wayne dulcafino on special assignment thank you
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Russell for the correction there. Mike, we got Mike on the line. I notice he called in.
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I don't know where you're calling from or what you want to talk about, Mike, but fire,
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what do you got? Well, I'm calling from Tom Ball and I'm trying to listen to it every
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morning. Thank you, buddy. So I want to talk about ice and what they can do and what they
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can't do. All right. Because there's some confusion about this. So first of all, US
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citizens are not required by any federal law to carry proof of citizenship.
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Correct. There is nowhere in the federal code that says that the US is and I have
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to prove to ICE by ID. ICE can ask me the question or border patrol and I say yes
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I'm the United States citizen. That's the end of it. They have no legal authority
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to detain US citizens for immigration purposes.
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Okay, now they can arrest you for other federal crimes.
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Now wait a minute, Mike,
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I wanna make one correction to what you said.
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If you're driving a vehicle,
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they can ask you for ID associated
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with your driving of the vehicle.
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They cannot, you are totally right.
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No one, not police, not ICE, not anybody,
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can walk up to you standing on the street and say,
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hey, can you show me an ID?
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But if you're behind the wheel of a car,
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They can ask you for your ID in that scenario and say that it's tied to operation of a vehicle not necessarily
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Proof of your citizenship. So so there's a caveat to the store. Okay, go ahead continue. I
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Agree with you a hundred percent on that. You're right. And that's Texas state law if you're in Texas
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You'd have to show driver's license. Yeah period sure but my whole point my whole point is this is
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That we got to be careful here because there have been us citizens detained by ICE
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Yes.
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For prolonged periods of time, which is, I hate to say this, but it's illegal.
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Now I know they say they can't prove it, but according to federal law, you don't have to
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prove it.
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If I say I'm a United States citizen, they have to take my word for it.
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Now that's the law.
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The law does not, federal law does not say I have to carry proof of my passport or proof
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of citizenship.
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Correct.
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And from my point of view, and I have a wife that's an immigrant wife who is a citizen.
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So do I.
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She never has any trouble.
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She's been a citizen for years.
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Just passport and all that kind of stuff.
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And they don't bother her.
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She's from South America.
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But the whole point of it is I had run in with Border Patrol down on the border asking
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me if I told them I was the United States citizen.
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One of them said, I don't believe you.
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You're from Canada.
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it. What the heck are you talking about? Sure. That's funny. And you know, it makes me wonder
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about the intelligence of these people. Sure. When they do that, when they make that kind
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of statement. And I told one of them one time, you have no authority over me for immigration
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purposes. Okay. I am a United States citizen. Right. And I rattled off where I was born,
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my Social Security. Yeah. No, and I appreciate it, Mike. And you're calling mostly because
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of the actual story that Scott Jennings and Abby Phillip were debating and the audio I
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was playing where a guy in New Jersey with a real ID was handcuffed and put on the ground
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and eventually proved that he was a citizen but was yelling as he was getting put on the
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ground that he had an ID and he could prove it. And you're saying he didn't even have to
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do that to show his ID. But there is a messy gray area to all this where the ICE agents
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will probably say they had reason to believe that he wasn't who he said he was.
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But he doesn't matter.
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It doesn't, it doesn't, to be honest, makes it be sued.
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Well, hold on though, hold on though, hold on the mic.
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If ICE is in the process of gaining, you know, of arresting someone that they're looking
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for and they think this person is that person, like in your scenario it doesn't matter, it
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means ICE can't arrest anybody ever.
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They can't show up anywhere and arrest anybody because if somebody says I'm a legal citizen
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when ICE shows up, they have to go home.
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And that's not true.
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And I know you're not saying that, but that's not true.
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No, I'm not saying that.
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say in the process of attempting to obtain someone that they were actually looking for,
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they mistakenly identified this person as the person they were looking for and arrested
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him.
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I imagine that's what they'll do.
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I don't know for sure.
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I imagine that'll be their defense.
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And so that process of detaining and then releasing someone can be part of an active
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investigation or some sort of active thing that you're doing as ICE agents.
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And you can arrest people and then let them go later and not get sued.
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It'll be messy to see if that's what actually was happening and if they can prove it.
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But if they have a warrant to arrest somebody and that somebody looks kind of like this
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guy and he's kind of in the same area, they can say that those were the reasons they detained
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him and not the reason...
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That's extremely weak constitutionally.
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It's extremely weak, but it's not wrong.
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It's extremely weak, but it's not wrong.
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And I'm not saying that it's a good thing, and I'm agreeing with you that this probably
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shouldn't have happened.
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However, I imagine that would be the argument they make.
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And police can detain someone if they have reasonable suspicion, if they have reason
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to believe that something is going on.
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They can't.
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They can't keep them.
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They can detain them and release them.
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But, go back to the constitutional point.
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Sure.
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I'm going to disagree.
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The law federal code does not say, me as the United States citizen, I am not going
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have to carry my birth certificate. It does not. Or my passport. That's correct. It does not say that.
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The law does not say that. I cannot exempt the law. They are law enforcement. They always say
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they're the law. No, they're not. Congress and the president of the United States make the law.
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We do not disagree on that, Mike. We do not disagree at all on that. Everything you said
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we agree on. I think the ICE agents will say they detained him irrelevant to his ID and his
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unwillingness to present it. They detained him for other reasons. I don't think the ID will be the,
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even if the video seems to show that the biggest trigger to why someone actually detained you was
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a demand for an ID that you wouldn't give, or in this case, a person who was willfully offering a
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real ID that they didn't necessarily take. I think the argument would be that it was for a different
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reason, because I totally agree with you and everything you just said about the Constitution,
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But the police also do have the right to detain people and if they give a reason that makes sense to detain him
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They might be able to not be held, you know having broken any ruler
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Relight that got implied immunity anyway, you have to sue them through the court
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Correct court's back you got to sue the government to the court's act right. Okay, but my own my own point is sure
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Okay, is dangerous dangerous. You're right any law enforcement not just I for to patrol but other people as well
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Other law enforcement say you've got to prove your assistance, whereas your passport, they cannot do that.
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They cannot do that.
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They cannot.
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I absolutely agree with that.
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I absolutely agree with you, Mike, on that.
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All right.
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Well, that's all I wanted to say.
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Fair enough.
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No, I thank you very much for the call, Mike, as always, and I'm glad that you listen to the show as often as you do.
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I was saying, and again, thank you to Mike, I was saying that sometimes the actual paperwork, whether or not we see it in the video, indicates a more complicated situation.
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And I think that's one of the things that often confuses this stuff.
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And granted, I'm sure people are hearing Mike and I talk and think that I'm making excuses
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for the ICE agents.
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I'm certainly, I'm not intent to do that.
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I am certainly trying to play devil's advocate and also use a logical or reasonable example
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for how something else could have been going on.
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But that's how these individuals, whoever they are, wind up on these videos in the first
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place.
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is like you do if you don't listen to cops, which I loved Scott Jennings point, if you
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if you refuse anything from them, they increase the problem. You know what I mean? Like if you
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refuse to open the door, they say they have reason to believe that you're someone that they're
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supposed to be detaining. And it's because you might have a warrant for somebody else who knows
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what the answer is. But that's why you listen, so they don't go further and further and break
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windows and arrest you. And I do I'll say one last thing. And I don't know if I should say this,
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but I will because I'm very much pro cop. I'm very much pro cop.
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But I have seen scenarios where a cop rightfully and from a human
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standpoint, is very upset in everything that's gone on up
29:39
until a certain moment, like the way that someone's been
29:41
behaving toward them has made them rightfully angry. And in
29:45
those moments, I think the tail end of these videos occasionally
29:48
shows that frustration come out. And I don't blame a cop for
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feeling frustrated in how people act in certain situations.
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Now, like I see videos in TikTok all the time where this young
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20 something moron is yelling through the glass window that he
30:05
doesn't have to comply at all in his car with cops.
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He's like, I don't have to do anything you're saying.
30:10
It is my right to leave.
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And that's not true.
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And again, if you're behind the wheel of a vehicle, uniquely
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untrue, because proving that you're allowed to drive the car
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is something the cops can force you to do.
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It's very different than if you just walk up to somebody on the side of the road.
30:24
If I'm walking around in the street and somebody asked me for my ID, I do not have to provide it to them.
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But if I'm behind the wheel of a car, I do. And so when you fight and resist that way, they have a right to
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go further. But there's a lot of nuances like that.
30:37
There's a lot of variables that play in to what cops can say they reasonably believed or reasonable suspicion to believe that something was going on.
30:45
And they needed more
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information from you and when you refuse it entirely it winds up being bad for
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you. So I see both sides of that and I know I've told the story before in
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media in Illinois of participating in a drill where I pretended to be an active
31:02
shooter in a school. I had a gun that had like paintballs or something in it
31:06
something that they could tell if I hit them or not which was weird and I had to
31:10
like start firing it and then the police came into the school and eventually they
31:14
shot or apprehended me, which was crazy, because also you don't
31:18
want to shoot cops. Like part of me as a person in the moment
31:21
where I'm supposed to be the bad guy, and I'm looking at the good
31:24
guy, my whole life, I learned not to pull that trigger. And you
31:28
had to do it, you had to pretend. And I think I told this
31:31
story, and I'll tell it relatively quickly, because I
31:33
want to take a break and move on to something else. But I want to
31:35
get it out there. One of the practice rounds, one of the
31:38
younger cops like dive tackled me and flipped me over. And it
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was just a training and I was a media guy and you could see the
31:45
trainers eyes light up when it happened. And like he kind of
31:47
yelled at the cop. And I was like, No, dude, it's fine. He
31:50
took it really seriously. And it's fine. And I would hope that
31:53
if my kid were in a school and some horrible person was trying
31:56
to hurt him, that this guy would bull rush him. Like this guy, he
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was one of those super cops who blew through the entire school
32:03
in like 15 seconds wound up upstairs with me, I think he
32:07
might have physically dodged a bullet. To this day, I'm not
32:10
sure if he actually saw where a bullet was coming and actually moved his shoulder in
32:14
the right way so I missed him and then flipped me over like I was at the rodeo and he was
32:19
you know, tying down a calf. It was incredible. And I again remember that people were yelling
32:24
at him for it and I'm like, No, dude, like that's the dude I want in that moment. But
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I understand adrenaline can be a part of it and it can get to you and I don't know. It
32:32
just seems like some people are dead set on making a cop mad enough to go viral in a bad
32:37
way. And that also I think is a problem. A quick break, a lot more. This is KSEV
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Mornings, the voice of Texas, Craig Coglianese and Alone, Wayne Dolcefino on
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Special Assignment. My name is Craig Coglianese. Wayne Dolcefino is on Special
32:52
Assignment today. He should be back tomorrow. Lots and lots of stuff to talk
32:56
about as always. I do think some stupid criminal stories are always fun to kind
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of end the show. Alone was jailed after she broke into a Dollar General. This
33:06
happened in Kansas, I think. The one was caught red handed stealing stuff from a dollar store.
33:11
I guess at some point she also used the fire extinguisher to either break into more of
33:17
the stuff inside the Dollar General or get into it in the first place. What I think is
33:23
really kind of crazy about this is why choose this location? I'm not trying to say that
33:28
you should steal stuff. I don't encourage the criminals to do a better job, but when
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someone's knocking off like a Dollar Tree or a dollar store,
33:35
although Dollar General, I think some of the items are more
33:37
than $1. That seems like the wrong target. Like if I'm gonna
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go to jail, if you're gonna throw me in prison, I'm actually
33:44
gonna try to break into somewhere more expensive than
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that, and do probably a little bit better as far as again, I'm
33:50
not trying to encourage people to do crime in a more valuable
33:53
way, I would like you to be crime free, I think we'd all
33:56
like you to be crime free. But nonetheless, if you go that road,
34:00
this seems like the wrong way to do it.
34:02
A Delta passenger also stole an airport vehicle
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and drove around a tarmac before crashing.
34:09
A 26 year old guy named Jay in California was arrested
34:12
for sneaking around through an access door at an airport
34:16
and just being a moron.
34:19
And part of me thinks that this is the kind of thing
34:21
where social media told him that he'll be famous
34:25
if he does something really stupid
34:26
and then he does something really dumb.
34:28
I think I even have audio with this one of people talking about the guy stealing the car and joyriding at the airport, which is dumb
34:36
All right, hold on. Let me actually make that audio something that you can hear again as I like to screen it on my end
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And here we go
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Okay, you know what's going on with the vehicles behind us without the law enforcement
34:47
Looks like someone stole a tug of security breach there. I'm a solid tug. I mean, I don't know that's crazy kind of unexpected
34:53
in the West County.
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I worry about our security in our airports, not only here, but everywhere else.
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I think that's a great last call.
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Let's do it again, because I screwed up part of that, where they're talking about the vehicle
35:06
that's just going crazy and police that are chasing it and how airplanes can't take off.
35:10
And a bunch of people who showed up at an airport in California are very annoyed, because
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they don't know why their delay just went from five minutes to 50.
35:17
Hey, ground.
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Skywash 3492.
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Just out of curiosity, you know what's going on with the vehicles beyond us without the
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the law enforcement. Looks like someone stole a tug of security breach there for someone stole a tug.
35:28
I mean I don't know that's crazy. They just joy riding around on their their car their little tug
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um and then yeah that eventually gets you arrested gets you thrown in the hooskown you don't get to
35:38
go where you wanted to go. So the other thing is like for him himself he gets now no ability to
35:43
travel to whatever fancy destination he was leaving that was not California because California's a
35:49
go there. Another sillier thing, just to play more lighthearted stuff, because I like doing it. And
35:55
honestly, I somewhat steal this from Dana and her quick five. And I keep giving her credit that
36:00
people told me to stop giving her, including her. I think I heard that I don't need to keep going
36:04
this road, but I'm doing it anyway. Claude, one of the AIs out there gave an answer to the meaning
36:10
of life that went viral. I've talked a lot about AI. I am getting more and more into it by the day,
36:16
personally, like, I don't know if it was a month or two ago,
36:19
that I first started using it to simplify things I knew how to
36:23
do. There were things that I was very capable of on my own. This
36:26
feels like me bragging. It's not that I knew how to do. And now
36:30
I'm pushing it into places I don't really know what I'm
36:32
doing. Like, I'm just seeing if it can do stuff. And then what
36:35
it what it gives me back and how that works, which I think is the
36:38
inevitability of AI, then probably the danger is once you
36:41
get way beyond your own level of expertise with something, if it
36:45
breaks a thing that you're asking it to do, you can't fix it. So that seems bad. But here's AI
36:50
talking about the meaning of life, which is not necessarily the kind of thing we should be asking
36:56
the AI and getting from the AI, but somebody did it anyway. What's the point of life? Everything
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alive reaches toward light, toward water, toward each other. English has a word for that, tend,
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to lean toward, to take care of. Both grow from one Latin root, tendere, to stretch. The point
37:15
of life to stretch toward what's worth caring for. A person, a craft, a question, a place,
37:22
and look after it. The meaning isn't waiting at the end, it's in the reaching. So, what
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will you tend?"
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I don't hate this answer, which again, I don't think we should be asking AI this stuff, because
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I don't want AI to think about how it doesn't have life or maybe it wants life or something
37:37
else. But there is something really poetic about that, that life is really about the
37:42
journey more so about the end destination, which is basically what
37:45
Claude just said. And I also think it's kind of cheating, to be honest. And I'll
37:49
tell you why. And this is a weird reference to make and something that
37:53
probably a lot of people don't care about on this show, but darn it, we're
37:56
here and we're gonna do the topics the way I want to do them at the end of the
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show. One of the Marvel characters who's supposed to be a robot, Vision, in one of
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the Marvel TV shows gave a beautiful answer to a question about pain and life.
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Now, granted, that was written by a human, performed by a human, pretending to be a robot.
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But the reason I mention this is we don't know how the AIs get their info, like where
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they go look and what they go check.
38:22
And it sounds eerily similar to what a fake robot on a TV show said about life and about
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pain, the real robot says in real life.
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So I'm guessing maybe somehow some wires got crossed and it found that thing.
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Maybe that's not true.
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Maybe that is.
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Here, I'll play it one more time.
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This is Claude's definition of the meaning of life.
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You decide if you're impressed, if you agree,
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or if you're terrified of the robot uprising,
38:46
like some of us might be.
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What's the point of life?
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Everything alive reaches toward light, toward water,
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toward each other.
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English has a word for that.
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Tend to lean toward, to take care of.
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Both grow from one Latin root, tendere, to stretch.
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The point of life, to stretch toward
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what's worth caring for? A person? A craft? A question? A place? And look after it.
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The meaning isn't waiting at the end. It's in the reaching. So, what will you tend?
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Yeah, I don't know. It's a good answer, and I'm confused now and also scared.
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And probably shouldn't be, you know, to be honest. Although AI is really capable in a lot of ways
39:27
that we didn't think it would be as quickly like a year ago, it couldn't do what it's doing right
39:31
now. Just a few months ago, there's some things that you can do with AI now that you couldn't do
39:36
before. It is, it's startling. I want to shift gears. I want to play another thing that I kind
39:42
of like. I love playing these. I think we might get a ding for licensing on social media, because
39:48
these are songs and we don't own them and we're trying really hard to take them out, but then I
39:51
play them here. But it's a mashup. And there's a guy that does a bunch of mashups online. This one
39:56
is Daft Punk and Michael McDonald.
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And it's pretty good.
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I think that this matchup,
40:02
some are claiming works perfectly
40:03
and I'm just amused by these.
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And here we go, we're gonna play another one.
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["I Keep Forgetting"]
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["I Keep Forgetting"]
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["I Keep Forgetting"]
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This shouldn't work.
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["I Keep Forgetting"]
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Oh man.
40:34
I'll stop it. I got like 30 more seconds and I shouldn't keep going because we're already
40:38
probably getting dinged. Although it's technically not a licensed song because that's Michael
40:42
singing over Daft Punk. It's not anyway. I love those so much. And it's funny because
40:48
even those things you can like throw it into a machine and tell you a certain beats per
40:53
minute and then what song might fit with it. But that darn it. Okay. A little more. This
40:56
is really good.
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Yeah, and if you don't know something about us, the deaf punk song that's in there, look
41:17
it up and see how different it becomes when you have Michael McDonald sing on top of it,
41:22
which is just to me awesome.
41:24
All right, one last thing that I'll do before I get out of here.
41:27
I thought this was kind of interesting, somewhat terrifying actually as well.
41:32
A woman in New Hampshire went to an urgent care for treatment for I think an asthma attack
41:37
or an asthma related issue and she got locked in the building at night.
41:40
She had to call 911 and be rescued because at some point people left the urgent care
41:44
facility and forgot she was still there.
41:46
That's one of those moments where when you sit in a doctor's office or a waiting room
41:51
in some kind of medical place and you think to yourself,
41:54
do they know I'm here?
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Cause it's been a bit of a wait.
41:58
Most of us find out that yes, they knew you were there.
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They eventually do treat you.
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This lady found the opposite thing.
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Her name is Tia and she discovered that occasionally
42:07
you get forgotten at these places.
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I popped my head out and said, hello, hello.
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Very shocking.
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Just like, I can't believe this just happened to me
42:14
because literally when I was thinking in my head,
42:17
sitting there at 10 past eight, I was like,
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They would never lock me and that's crazy talk that only happens in movies or on a show about 10 past 8
42:25
I was like, huh, it's kind of quiet
42:28
Not sure what's going on
42:29
And then I felt a little funny because you always feel funny popping out of the door
42:33
When you're in a doctor's office as soon as I got near the door and pressed the door immediately and it was so shrilly
42:38
Loud it startled me. Maybe let them know and remind them that you're in the room if you're there
42:43
Yeah, you're closed
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I thought they had that little flag that when you're at a doctor's office and they put you in a room you put the
42:48
little flag up and it the doctor has to put it down when they go into the room
42:51
I don't know maybe somebody forgot to do the flag but they left her there and I've
42:54
always afraid of that when I have to wait too long alright that's it that's
42:57
the whole show as I said Wayne Dolcefino should be back tomorrow on the
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