Latest / INSIGHT TODAY / Sen Ted Cruz - We almost got Father Thomas, not Justice Thomas
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- 0:00Speaker 1: But first, joining us with more, the author of the
- 0:02Speaker 1: brand new book, Going Further, the incomparable Clarence Thomas, our friend,
- 0:06Speaker 1: Senator Ted Cruz. First, I got to ask you, what's
- 0:08Speaker 1: your reaction to Lindsay's sister? I mean, pretty amazing. And
- 0:13Speaker 1: incredible that Lindsay raised this girl after their parents died
- 0:16Speaker 1: at 13. She grew up very poor in a bar.
- 0:21Speaker 1: And Lindsay was amazing in what he did. And then
- 0:23Speaker 1: this next part is, The day after her brother dies,
- 0:27Speaker 1: she doesn't have time to mourn, Lindsay. She gets a
- 0:29Speaker 1: call from the president, a call from Henry McMaster, the governor.
- 0:33Speaker 1: Please serve out the rest of your brother's term. She
- 0:35Speaker 1: didn't have time to mourn, but she was asked to serve.
- 0:39Speaker 1: And she said yes and stepped up. I really come
- 0:43Speaker 1: to love and admire her. I miss her brother a lot.
- 0:46Speaker 2: I think we all do. But pretty amazing story here. Yeah.
- 0:51Speaker 3: Yeah, look, you and I were both dear friends with Lindsay.
- 0:54Speaker 3: It still doesn't feel real that he's not with us anymore.
- 0:57Speaker 3: And Darlene, he loved Darlene and she loved him. And
- 1:02Speaker 3: she answered the call and stepped forward to serve. I'm
- 1:04Speaker 3: grateful that she did. I'm glad to be serving with her.
- 1:07Speaker 3: And I think we are We are serving in consequential times,
- 1:11Speaker 3: and Lindsay understood the stakes, and I believe Darlene does
- 1:16Speaker 3: as well. And so we've got to fight alongside President
- 1:19Speaker 3: Trump to fight back from the radicals and the Marxists
- 1:24Speaker 3: and the Islamists who've taken over the Democrat Party. And
- 1:28Speaker 3: if we let our country go off the edge of
- 1:30Speaker 3: that cliff, I don't think there's any coming back.
- 1:34Speaker 1: You know, the president played a very big role here
- 1:37Speaker 1: in a lot of different ways. And I have nothing
- 1:40Speaker 1: but nice things to say about Ralph Norman. I just— when
- 1:44Speaker 1: he went for Nikki Haley over Donald Trump— Yep. That
- 1:48Speaker 1: made me question, in my mind, whether or not she's
- 1:51Speaker 1: going to be a wishy-washy, you know, Republican.
- 1:54Speaker 2: I'll tell you what.
- 1:55Speaker 1: I would argue that Darlene is more conservative than her brother,
- 1:59Speaker 1: having gotten to know her.
- 2:00Speaker 2: And she's really aligned.
- 2:02Speaker 1: On focus on— and her focus will be on South Carolina
- 2:05Speaker 1: issues like Tim Scott's are.
- 2:08Speaker 3: Well, and look, the voters of South Carolina made their determination.
- 2:12Speaker 3: I respect the voters. And so I'm proud to be
- 2:15Speaker 3: serving with Darlene now. And I look forward to her
- 2:17Speaker 3: winning in November and continuing to fight alongside the president
- 2:21Speaker 3: for common sense conservative victories. Yeah.
- 2:24Speaker 1: You know, when I read and interviewed Clarence Thomas, my
- 2:28Speaker 1: grandfather's son, one of the best books.
- 2:31Speaker 2: I've ever I've ever read.
- 2:32Speaker 1: I still recommend that book to this day. I'm going
- 2:35Speaker 1: to be honest.
- 2:36Speaker 2: I'm jealous.
- 2:37Speaker 1: He has the greatest laugh I've ever heard in my
- 2:41Speaker 1: entire life.
- 2:42Speaker 2: He's one of the smartest people you're ever going to
- 2:45Speaker 2: be around. And he gave you all that time, and
- 2:47Speaker 2: I got nothing. And I'm very, very, my feelings are hurt.
- 2:52Speaker 1: But it's really, you're taking this whole story of Clarence
- 2:55Speaker 1: Thomas to a whole other level. And I'm going to
- 2:59Speaker 1: add one thing, and then I want you to comment.
- 3:01Speaker 1: If you look at blue cities and states, where are
- 3:04Speaker 1: the worst schools? Where's the worst crime usually? In predominantly
- 3:08Speaker 1: minority neighborhoods. And I don't know why historically that Democrats
- 3:13Speaker 1: have gotten a majority of the African-American, Hispanic-American, you know,
- 3:18Speaker 1: other minority groups vote when I don't think they've done
- 3:21Speaker 1: a thing to help anybody anywhere in any blue city
- 3:24Speaker 1: or state.
- 3:25Speaker 2: Am I wrong?
- 3:28Speaker 3: You're not wrong. And look, I wrote this book because
- 3:31Speaker 3: I think Justice Thomas has an extraordinary personal story. And
- 3:35Speaker 3: he is one of the most consequential conservative thinkers and
- 3:39Speaker 3: Supreme Court justices to ever serve.
- 3:41Speaker 2: Justice Thomas is a good friend of mine.
- 3:43Speaker 3: I've known him 30 years. he agreed to do, we
- 3:47Speaker 3: did nine and a half hours of one-on-one interviews for
- 3:50Speaker 3: this book. And in this book, it came out today.
- 3:53Speaker 3: Today was the launch and it immediately skyrocketed to number one.
- 3:56Speaker 3: It's the number one bestselling book on Amazon because Justice
- 4:01Speaker 3: Thomas's story is so compelling. And what I tried to
- 4:03Speaker 3: do in this book is a couple of things. Number one,
- 4:06Speaker 3: tell his personal story. He was born into abject poverty
- 4:10Speaker 3: in rural Georgia. He was raised in incredibly challenging circumstances.
- 4:16Speaker 2: He was raised by his grandparents.
- 4:17Speaker 3: His grandfather was a strict disciplinarian, taught him discipline, taught
- 4:22Speaker 3: him hard work, but also taught him education and reading.
- 4:25Speaker 2: His grandparents were illiterate.
- 4:27Speaker 3: They didn't know how to read or write, but they
- 4:29Speaker 3: emphasized education for Clarence and his younger brother. He initially
- 4:34Speaker 3: had no interest in being a lawyer or judge. What
- 4:36Speaker 3: he wanted to be was a priest. And he went
- 4:39Speaker 3: to the seminary. And we almost got, instead of Justice Thomas,
- 4:44Speaker 3: Father Thomas. But then when he went to the seminary
- 4:47Speaker 3: in both high school and college— he became disillusioned with
- 4:50Speaker 3: the church. He became disillusioned that the church was not
- 4:53Speaker 3: standing up against racial injustice, was not standing up for
- 4:56Speaker 3: civil rights. And so he went to Holy Cross undergrad
- 4:59Speaker 3: in Yale Law School, and he became a leftist radical,
- 5:03Speaker 3: an angry young man. He was in a riot in
- 5:06Speaker 3: Harvard Square. And what I try to do in this
- 5:09Speaker 3: book is tell his story, which is an amazing journey
- 5:12Speaker 3: from abject poverty and facing grotesque racism to the pinnacle
- 5:16Speaker 3: of American law. But I also try to lay out
- 5:19Speaker 3: his intellectual journey from an angry, radical leftist to one
- 5:24Speaker 3: of the most important conservatives to have ever lived. Not
- 5:27Speaker 3: only that, today, Justice Thomas is the second largest, longest-serving
- 5:32Speaker 3: Supreme Court justice in history. In two years, he will
- 5:35Speaker 3: be the longest-serving justice in history. And what I do
- 5:38Speaker 3: in this book— is I try to explain 30 years
- 5:41Speaker 3: of jurisprudence, defending the Constitution and what it.
- 5:44Speaker 2: Means, and do so in a way that is understandable.
- 5:46Speaker 2: You don't have to be a lawyer. You don't have
- 5:48Speaker 2: to be an expert.
- 5:49Speaker 3: I try to write this book so that a smart
- 5:51Speaker 3: high school student can read it and be inspired. You
- 5:54Speaker 3: could order the book right now at goingfurther.com, goingfurther.com. And
- 5:59Speaker 3: it's a great book to give your kids, to give
- 6:01Speaker 3: your grandkids. The reason I wrote it is this is
- 6:05Speaker 3: a divided time where people are demoralized and they're sad,
- 6:07Speaker 3: and we don't have enough heroes. And I think Clarence
- 6:11Speaker 3: Thomas is an American hero, and he's someone that if
- 6:14Speaker 3: people are looking for role models, you would be very
- 6:17Speaker 3: hard-pressed to find a better role model than Justice Clarence Thomas.
- 6:21Speaker 3: He's extraordinary, and I want as many people as possible
- 6:26Speaker 3: to know his story and know his legacy.
- 6:29Speaker 1: Well, we'll put up the book one more time. I'm
- 6:31Speaker 1: looking forward to reading it, Senator. I wish I would
- 6:33Speaker 1: have gotten an advance copy. Going further, goingfurther.com if you
- 6:37Speaker 1: want to get a copy. Ted Cruz, always appreciate you.
- 6:40Speaker 2: Thank you. All right. Thanks for watching.
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