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Ken Rosenthal on Trade Deadline buyers & sellers, Catchers on the move, Shohei Ohtani's knee injury · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: All right here he is, Ken Rosendahl, our senior citizen insider.
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  Speaker 1: That is welcome.
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  Speaker 2: Ken.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't seen you since. I haven't seen you since
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  Speaker 1: the All Star Game, the All Star Break where you
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  Speaker 1: graced us with your presence on set. I just want
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  Speaker 1: to know, for the people out there that don't understand,
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  Speaker 1: what time do you need to be done?
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  Speaker 3: Ken?
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  Speaker 1: Because I have never seen someone so worried about an
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  Speaker 1: exact time just to go eat a salad.
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  Speaker 4: That is a gross misatorization characterization of what that was.
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  Speaker 4: And also I'm not a senior citizen just yet getting closer,
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  Speaker 4: I get it, But aj, would you like to talk
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  Speaker 4: about anything factual today where you just like to engage
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  Speaker 4: in some of your personal myths.
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  Speaker 1: They're not missed. I saw you, I saw that Caesar
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  Speaker 1: you ate Ken. It's not my fault that you were hungry,
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  Speaker 1: uh going? All right, KeNH let's get into it. Ady
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  Speaker 1: Rushman on the Io, you wrote a column about being
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  Speaker 1: trade possibilities. He was the one of the ones listed.
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  Speaker 1: How does this hurt him and the Orioles? And then
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  Speaker 1: what are the other catchers that are possibilities of being traded?
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  Speaker 1: Because there's some teams out there, maybe the White Sox
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  Speaker 1: with Kyle Teo. We don't know how hurt he is
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  Speaker 1: after last night.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I wrote about three all star catchers and Rushman
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  Speaker 4: was one of them, Shay Langeleiers was another, and then
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  Speaker 4: Hunter Goodman of course being the third, and just the
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  Speaker 4: chances of them being traded. Now. The reason I wrote
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  Speaker 4: this was because a lot of people are speculating that
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  Speaker 4: with the Yankees in need of a catcher, they're gonna
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  Speaker 4: go after these guys, and people just list names this
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  Speaker 4: time of year. Hey, here are the catchers are gonna
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  Speaker 4: be available? Well, in each circumstance, they're not necessarily available
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  Speaker 4: and not likely available. And I'll start with Rushman. So
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  Speaker 4: here's a guy who now has been on the IL
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  Speaker 4: five times in less than four hundred days, right, a
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  Speaker 4: little more than a year, and that's not good. This
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  Speaker 4: will likely take him to the deadline or past the deadline.
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  Speaker 4: The Oils have played batter they've won seven of eight,
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  Speaker 4: so they're not going to be as inclined to sell
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  Speaker 4: just to this moment anyway. But the real issue with
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  Speaker 4: Rushman is that he is a free agent after next year,
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  Speaker 4: the lockout year, and when you're the Orioles you probably
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  Speaker 4: have one of two choices. Well, you do have one
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  Speaker 4: of two choices. You sign him to an extension or
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  Speaker 4: you trade him. It might be that neither happens. It
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  Speaker 4: might be that they don't get an extension done because
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  Speaker 4: he's this close to free agency. And it might be
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  Speaker 4: also more logically, even they don't trade him, not now,
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  Speaker 4: because he's injured, and also because they seem to be
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  Speaker 4: somewhat in the race. They are in the race, so
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  Speaker 4: he's not going to go. I wouldn't think unless the
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  Speaker 4: team is willing to take a chance on a guy
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  Speaker 4: who's been on the IL three times this year already.
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  Speaker 4: But then the question becomes, Okay, what is his future
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  Speaker 4: with the Orioles. The president Baseball Operations, Michaelias has said
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  Speaker 4: he wants Adley Rushman to be an Oriole forever. Well,
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  Speaker 4: there's a way to get that done, and it's by
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  Speaker 4: sounding him to an extension.
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  Speaker 3: These three guys, they're all all stars, they're all kind
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  Speaker 3: of pushing themselves in different directions. Is there a chance
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  Speaker 3: that at this time of year teams go exactly what
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  Speaker 3: Michael Liah said, like we want him forever? He says no,
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  Speaker 3: and then the trades start happening or is it just eh,
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  Speaker 3: we'll see and then maybe obviously it's all value but extension. No,
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  Speaker 3: then we're gonna trade you.
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  Speaker 4: Eric at the All Star break, I actually thought that
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  Speaker 4: would be the case with Rushman, and for the reasons
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  Speaker 4: sort of that, I just stated that he's coming toward
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  Speaker 4: the end of his service with them. It's a year
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  Speaker 4: plus remaining, and they weren't at the time looking like
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  Speaker 4: a team that was going to be in contention. So
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  Speaker 4: if you're not in contention, you tried the extension. If
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  Speaker 4: he doesn't take the extension, then maybe you trade him
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  Speaker 4: with them in contention with them now, with him now hurt,
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  Speaker 4: it's a different equation. Now Langeliers is in a different circumstance,
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  Speaker 4: two years of control remaining past this one, and the
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  Speaker 4: A's want to keep momentum going. Now obviously they've lost
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  Speaker 4: momentum again, They've lost fifteen of seventeen, seventeen of nineteen,
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  Speaker 4: have lost track. And you would say, perhaps, well, he's
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  Speaker 4: a Scott Boris client, he's probably not signing an extension.
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  Speaker 4: Why not just move him. Well, for one thing, they
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  Speaker 4: don't have much depth in their system at Catcher for another,
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  Speaker 4: And this is maybe more important, they're opening that new
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  Speaker 4: ballpark in Las Vegas scheduled in twenty twenty eight. That
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  Speaker 4: would be Langalier's last year with the team. They want
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  Speaker 4: to go into that ballpark with a contending club. It's
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  Speaker 4: hard to see right now, but they're playing at that
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  Speaker 4: minor league ballpark, which is Coresfield West, and by twenty
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  Speaker 4: twenty eight maybe it'll be in a better place. That's
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  Speaker 4: their intention, So trading Langoliers to them doesn't make a
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  Speaker 4: lot of sense right now. Now. The caveat always with
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  Speaker 4: these guys, with anybody is make a good enough offerer.
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  Speaker 4: You can get the player with Hunter Goodman, and that's
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  Speaker 4: the case as well. What the Rockies are trying to
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  Speaker 4: do is figure out, okay, which guys who are here
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  Speaker 4: right now will be part of our next ninety win team.
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  Speaker 4: And you might think, ah, the Rockies I never went
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  Speaker 4: in ninety games. No, they're going to in ninety games
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  Speaker 4: at some point, and they're under new management now, Paul
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  Speaker 4: de Podesta and Josh Burns, and they want to build
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  Speaker 4: toward that. So is Goodman or should he be a
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  Speaker 4: part of that? With three years of control remaining, you
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  Speaker 4: would think that within those three years, they should be
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  Speaker 4: making progress toward ninety wins. At the same time, if
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  Speaker 4: you can get an offer where you get multiple pieces back,
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  Speaker 4: that could help accelerate that timeline or make it easier
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  Speaker 4: to get to you consider it. I don't expect it
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  Speaker 4: to happen. Hundred Goodman's having an amazing year has a
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  Speaker 4: lot of value to the Rockies, but it's certainly something
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: The Yankees have been a team that have been connected
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  Speaker 3: to right and Jeffers because they want right handed hitting catching.
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  Speaker 3: They're both the two guys. Goodman and Shay Langliers are
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  Speaker 3: both right handed hitting. But none of those three Jeffers,
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  Speaker 3: Goodman or Sang Langliers received very well. And that's what
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  Speaker 3: the Yankees value. Are there other teams that are looking
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  Speaker 3: for this type of catcher, an all star type of
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  Speaker 3: hitting catcher that is okay overlooking just the average receiving numbers.
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  Speaker 4: The Rays are looking for a catcher. They've been looking
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  Speaker 4: for a catcher ever since they didn't draft Buster Posey
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  Speaker 4: in two thousand and eight or whatever it was. They've
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  Speaker 4: had some catchers over the years. Anito was one that
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  Speaker 4: were good for a time, but it's really been a
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  Speaker 4: black hole for them. That's one team, and the Dodgers,
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  Speaker 4: I don't expect that they would go for a number
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  Speaker 4: one type catcher, but with Smith out Will Smith, they
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  Speaker 4: might look for a complementary piece to Dalton Rushing. Now,
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  Speaker 4: when you mentioned the framing and the receiving aspect of it, yes,
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  Speaker 4: all teams factor that in. Now in the Yankees case,
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  Speaker 4: they've got a catching coach Tanner Swanson, who is highly regarded,
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  Speaker 4: who does really good work with catchers, who has worked
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  Speaker 4: with Jeffers before he was in Minnesota. So there is
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  Speaker 4: some connection there. And there's also the possibility that with
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  Speaker 4: different voices in a guy's ear, he might do things
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  Speaker 4: a little bit differently and improve his receiving aspect. You
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  Speaker 4: might say, well, wait a second, these guys are in
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  Speaker 4: the big leagues, are not changing that much. We see
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  Speaker 4: big leaguers change all the time, and we see them
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  Speaker 4: improved in the big leagues all the time, So it's
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  Speaker 4: not impossible, all right.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to know, Ken, if you had to
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  Speaker 1: rank these three in the most likely to be traded,
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  Speaker 1: because none of these three to me seem like would
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  Speaker 1: be god retchmen to me would be one, just because
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  Speaker 1: they have Asio already there, but the Rockies don't have
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  Speaker 1: another catcher. The A's don't really have another catcher that's
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  Speaker 1: there and already established and ready to go. So would
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  Speaker 1: it be Richman one, Goodman two, Langelier's three? Or is there?
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  Speaker 1: Am I wrong here?
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  Speaker 4: Angie? I wouldn't even venture a ranking at this point
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  Speaker 4: because frankly, I don't believe any any of them is
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  Speaker 4: getting traded at this deadline. Now in the offseason, with Rushman,
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  Speaker 4: with the lockout looming, maybe then that becomes a more
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  Speaker 4: serious conversation, depending upon how the Orioles finished, and the
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  Speaker 4: other two guys I don't expect will be traded at all.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know that any team will meet the price
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  Speaker 4: of the respective clubs that they would have to do
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  Speaker 4: to get either one of those players, So I wouldn't
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  Speaker 4: rank them. I would say all or unlikely, which is
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  Speaker 4: kind of why I wrote it, so people can look
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  Speaker 4: at this and say, WHOA, Maybe the Yankees aren't getting
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  Speaker 4: those guys. Maybe the Rays aren't getting those guys. It's
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  Speaker 4: going to have to be others.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Let's go to the national leagues where the
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  Speaker 3: Braves are fighting off the Phillies keeping them at bay.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever it is, where's their focus going to be at
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  Speaker 3: this trade deadline? Because you will look at the team
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  Speaker 3: and you say, there's a few holes to a really
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  Speaker 3: good team that could make them an elite team.
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  Speaker 4: It's funny. Eric friday I wrote and reported that the
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  Speaker 4: Braves focus at that time was offense. They were concerned
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  Speaker 4: about their offensive consistency over several weeks, and while starting
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  Speaker 4: pitching certainly has been in need. Going back to the
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  Speaker 4: off season, they felt that they had a number of
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  Speaker 4: internal options, guys coming back on rehabilitation assignments, things like that,
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  Speaker 4: where they would have choices. They still might, but it
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  Speaker 4: still seems to me, as it has seemed from spring training,
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  Speaker 4: they need a starter capable of starting a playoff game.
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  Speaker 4: Alexandthopolis listed that as their number one need in the
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  Speaker 4: offseason and never addressed. It still hasn't addressed. It still
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  Speaker 4: seems to me that's a big need. Their offense right
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  Speaker 4: now is in a better place. Austin Riley has finally
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  Speaker 4: come alive here, Acuna is coming back, so I would
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  Speaker 4: think their focus has to be pitching despite what I
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  Speaker 4: was told last week and despite what I wrote, it
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  Speaker 4: just seemed to me that Bryce Elder pitched better last night.
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  Speaker 4: That was good. But they got to keep this going.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, the Phillies are right on their tails, Kenny, so
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  Speaker 1: they got to win every game. The Phillies have been
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  Speaker 1: playing really well. They beat the Dodgers last night and
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  Speaker 1: they've they've closed that gap down. So it's gonna be interesting,
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  Speaker 1: which is good. Good for the game, not good if
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  Speaker 1: you're a Braves fan. If you're Claudia, she's a little
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  Speaker 1: bit panicked because the Braves might be in trouble. But
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  Speaker 1: there was another team we thought was dead and buried,
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  Speaker 1: the Red Sox, not that long ago. Here they are, Kenny,
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  Speaker 1: fourteen game winning streak. You have no athletics, big board,
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  Speaker 1: Wilson controller Sonny Gray were in the top ten most
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  Speaker 1: likely to be traded. Has this changed their mind and
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  Speaker 1: now they're gonna be buyers?
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  Speaker 4: I would say it's definitely changing their mind. Now things
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  Speaker 4: can change still over the next eleven or twelve days,
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  Speaker 4: and the Red Sox could go the other way again,
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  Speaker 4: though it certainly doesn't look like at this point they're
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  Speaker 4: gonna lose another game. The rest of the season. But
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  Speaker 4: I would expect, yes, at this point, that they will
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  Speaker 4: buy and not sell. They could do a little of both,
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  Speaker 4: but Sonny Gray's been crucial to what they've done, and
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  Speaker 4: Wilson Contra I don't know that he was ever really
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  Speaker 4: a serious trade candidate. He has another year left and
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  Speaker 4: he's been such a huge part of their offense and
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  Speaker 4: really their overall team chemistry. So I do see them buying,
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  Speaker 4: and what the need is is clear. It's offense, it's
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  Speaker 4: a right handed bat, and I know they're scoring now
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  Speaker 4: and they're playing much better. And for all of us,
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  Speaker 4: including myself, who were very critical of their president of
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  Speaker 4: baseball Operations or their chief baseball officer, Craig Breslow, what
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  Speaker 4: is happening with them is kind of the way he
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  Speaker 4: laid it out in certain respects. They're getting great pitching
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  Speaker 4: and Suarez not coming off the il tonight but perhaps tomorrow.
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  Speaker 4: He's been a part of that. Of course, they've got
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  Speaker 4: the young kids that they've developed themselves, and even without
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  Speaker 4: Crochet they're starting. Pitching has been an absolute strength, and
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  Speaker 4: it's enabled them to build a foundation for this pitching
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  Speaker 4: defense thing that they were trying to do. So great
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  Speaker 4: for the Red Sox. It's good to see Fenway alive again,
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  Speaker 4: and it's cool to see this whole thing turn around.
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  Speaker 4: And it's just proof again. Aj. We talk and we
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  Speaker 4: talk and we talk, and I write and I write
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  Speaker 4: and I write, and a lot of times I'll be honest,
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  Speaker 4: I evidently don't know what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm actually gonna bring up one of the things
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  Speaker 3: you said on our show was Craig Breslow, because of
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  Speaker 3: some of the things have gone on, might be on
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  Speaker 3: the hot seat. Now does he act like a GM
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  Speaker 3: that's on the hot seat? You talked about Dana Brown
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  Speaker 3: possibly on the hot seat, so he could be very
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  Speaker 3: aggressive in making moves, even though Jim Crane hamstrung him.
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  Speaker 3: Could Craig Breslow will be all of a sudden, this
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  Speaker 3: GM that's gonna move like a GM on the hot
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  Speaker 3: seat and be this Dave Dombrowski that we want to see.
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  Speaker 4: Eric. Gms don't often operate as if they're on the
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  Speaker 4: hot seat. And what I mean by that is the
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  Speaker 4: way they go about it and the lip service they
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  Speaker 4: give anyway, is that they're trying to do at all
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  Speaker 4: times what's best for the organization, and if they do
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  Speaker 4: that and things work out, then okay, they'll be safe.
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  Speaker 4: Expect Reslo to operate differently because of what's been written
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  Speaker 4: said about him, because of Sam Kennedy, their team president,
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  Speaker 4: calling the team's play and embarrassment last month. What I
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  Speaker 4: expect is him to do what he thinks is best.
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  Speaker 4: Same with Michael Elias in Baltimore. Now, what they end
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  Speaker 4: up doing might not turn out to be what's best,
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  Speaker 4: and it might turn out to be a mistaken who knows,
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  Speaker 4: also might turn out to be great. But generally speaking,
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  Speaker 4: guys don't try to save their jobs at the deadline.
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  Speaker 4: That's not how they work, and it's a credit to
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  Speaker 4: them actually, because they know what they have to do
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  Speaker 4: is keep the organization's best interests in mind. I know
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  Speaker 4: there are exceptions to this. I'm sure there are over
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  Speaker 4: the years, but generally speaking, I don't see GM's presidents
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  Speaker 4: of Baseball operations chief baseball officers operating like that.
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  Speaker 1: Ken. A couple of teams I want to ask you about.
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  Speaker 1: One is the Padres, who are I think forty nine
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  Speaker 1: and fifties sitting there at forty nine and fifty right now?
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  Speaker 1: Not great? I mean they have a lot of pieces.
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  Speaker 1: And then the other one is the Blue Jays, who
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  Speaker 1: almost were again six inches away from winning the World
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  Speaker 1: Series last year. Are these teams going to be sellers?
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  Speaker 1: Is there a move out there? Dylan cieslaws last night
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  Speaker 1: for the Blue Jays. Is there a move out there
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  Speaker 1: that could put both fault these teams back into playoff
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  Speaker 1: not only playoff contention, but World Series contention.
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  Speaker 4: It's tough to see right now with both those teams,
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  Speaker 4: AJ and both those teams right now, if you had
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  Speaker 4: to guess, would be trending towards selling the Padres. This
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  Speaker 4: morning I checked their playoff odds were like nine percent,
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  Speaker 4: not very good at all. Now. The difference with them
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  Speaker 4: is they're run by a President of Baseball Operations AJ Preller,
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  Speaker 4: who doesn't seem to take into account the odds against him.
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  Speaker 4: He will fire, and he will try his best to
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: put a playoff caliber team on the field almost no
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: matter what the odds are. Now, could this year be
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: the exception? It certainly could be the exception, and it
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: probably should be the exception based on the way they've played.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: Their offense just hasn't been good enough. The rotation is
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: still full of questions. Maybe they get paveda back and
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: must grove back and it's a better look, but it's
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: tough to see. The Blue Jays it's kind of the
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: same thing. Haven't hit all year and vlad Junior still
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: does not have a home run at Rogers Center. No
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: home runs at home this season for lad Junior, it's
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: hard to believe that that's possible. And it's not just
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: on him. They've missed Addison Barger, They've had Alejandro Kirk
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: out for a while, come back not that good or
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: not that good offensively, they just haven't clicked the way
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: they have in the past. So I could see them
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: selling too, and it would be surprising and maybe things
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: change over the next eleven days in each case because
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: we've seen just look at the Red Sox as an example,
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: it's really two weeks that this has happened. Over before
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: this fourteen game streak, no one was saying, wow, the
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: Red Sox, so it can change really quickly.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: All right, Well, then, who are the Jays' most valuable pieces?
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: Is it Gosman is a Dalton Varshow in the defensive
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: center field aspect? Or is there something that I'm not
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: thinking of that's got an expiring contract?
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: Varshow has an expiring contract. He would be one. Springer.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: I don't know that he'd have much value. He would
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: be another, and certainly Gospin would be a guy that
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: would get a lot of attention if they put him
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: out there. They also have some bullpen pieces, lesser guys
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: that they could trade. I'm not exactly sure what it
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: would look like for them, but listen, there's talent on
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: that team, obviously, and there are players that could be
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: traded and maybe bringing them something back. It's just if
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: you're the Blue Jays coming off a World Series bid,
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: a World Series appearance, it's hard to do. It's hard
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: to give up and say, man, we can't be that
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: team that we were last year, only I don't know,
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: nine months ago. So it's going to be really interesting
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: to see how they play this.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: A lot of pressure, a lot of pressure. Remember last
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: year this time, you know, the front office there was
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: on the hot seat. John Schneider was on the hot seat.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: And then they turned it around. I mean kind of
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: like the Red Sox they fired their manager. Breslo was
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: on the hot seat, and now here they are in
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: playoff contention. So it's crazy how one fourteen game winning
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: streak can turn everything around. Ken It really is crazy.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: That's that's what that's what they're hoping for. But sho
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: heo Tani. Everyone's saying, oh, he's gonna win the cy
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Young I kept saying he's not because he's not going
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: to pitch enough. He's not going to be out there enough.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Now he's skipping starts. He's got a bad left knee.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Is there a little bit of worry on the Dodgers
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: in that they might actually have to go out and
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: get more starting pitching.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: There has to be some concern and there has to
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: be some thought of that. Now they're downplaying this. They're
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: saying they're just playing for the long haul. And he
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: was throwing I think as recently as yesterday or the
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: day before, even with this issue that he has, which
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: he said is mechanically related. He needs to figure out
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: how to deal with this while pitching. That said, what
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: is their priority, always their priority is October. So what
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: they want to do is get him as healthy as
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: possible to pitch and hit in October. It's the same
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: thing they're doing, just on a different scale with Snell
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: and with Glass. Now they're pointing all toward the postseason.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: That said, could they use another starter to protect themselves. Yes,
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: they probably could. It's just that Andrew Friedman, their president
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: base Operations, hates overpaying at the deadline, and for starting
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: pitchers they usually have to overpay. So I don't know
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: how aggressive they'll be. They've got options. Eric Glower has
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: been really good for them. River Ryan's been up and
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: down in the minor leagues with a hamstring issue, but
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: he's rehabbing and he's apparently trending well. They can do
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: some things and be okay as long as they get
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: to the playoffs, which they will. Remember, they have this
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: huge cushion, so I don't know that they'll feel the urgency.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: And everyone's wondering, I'm sure, Okay, what about schoogle for them?
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: This is what they do right, hang around the backboard,
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: then dunk on the entire sport. They don't necessarily want
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: to do that. It'll be interesting to see how aggressive
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: they are on it. If it becomes a thing.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: I should say, yeah, yeah, how much was that knee
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: directly related to just pitching? The swelling in it that
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: they had to take down, and the mechanics because he's
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: still hitting and there's a lot of twisting and hitting
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: and you know, so there's a fear. Is there any
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: talk of him possibly taking a break completely or just
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: from the hitting and not from pitching.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: I don't know how much of it relates to either
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: of those skills. There is talk of him not pitching
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: for some time. That was Dave Roberts quote. He will
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: not pitch for some time, taking a break from hitting.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: It doesn't seem necessary, but obviously if it becomes in
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: a Dodger's mind something that would benefit o'tani and accelerate
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: the healing process here, why wouldn't they do it. They've
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: got this huge lead, they're not caught by anyone in
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: that division. All those teams are flawed in one sense
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: or another, so they could really act as cautiously as
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: they want with him. And they've taken some cautious steps
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: here simply by stopping and pausing the pitching. So I
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: don't know they answered exactly to what is causing this
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: and how it's playing out for him. But at the
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: same time, the Dodgers are going to slow play it,
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: and they have every ability to slow play it because
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: of the cushion they've built.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Ken. Thank you very much for joining us, by the way,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: in case you didn't hear. I don't know if you
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: saw the opening the show, but I helped coach Team
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: USA Baseball and we went four and oh my team
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: did Ken, so congratulate me. Thank you for the congratulations.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: And also we called the kids to the front of
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: the bus and we asked them their favorite team and
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: their favorite player. I was shocked at this. Of the
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: twenty two kids, we had, not one said show hey,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: not one said show hey. I couldn't believe it. I
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: could not believe. It's not one kid. Yeah, I mean
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: there was.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: It was.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: It was. It was everybody else. It was dependent on
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: where they were from. Braves guys, you know, had their
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: braves people, you know, so the southeastern guys had their people.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: There was some kids from Tampa that said some raised guys.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: There were some kids from up north that had Phillies guys,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: the West coast guys. Though it was, it wasn't show hey.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: And I was shocked that the kids from like La
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: didn't say show hey.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: O Tani and it is surprising and Aja, I have
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: to say congratulations. Obviously you're the next great manager in
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: Major League Baseball. After managing these.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Children, Ken Ken, They're eighteen years old. Ken I don't
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: understand they're not sure they can vote Ken. Okay, thank you,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Thank you, can go back to your Caesar salad. Thanks.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Hopefully we got you out on time. It's one thirty five.
• 23:42
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• 23:45
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