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A series sweep, a Jahmai Jones lesson and a Justin Verlander update · Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast

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Speaker 1: And welcome into an episode of Tiger Territory, part of
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Speaker 1: the Foul Territory Network. Detroit Tiger's podcast, I'm here secly
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Speaker 1: with me as always as a man is on the
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Speaker 1: guest waiting list for the Call Her Daddy podcast. He
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Speaker 1: is Cody Stevenagan.
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Speaker 2: How are we doing?
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Speaker 3: Uh? Doing all right?
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Speaker 1: Hey?
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Speaker 3: Some of those interviews are really good. I don't know
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Speaker 3: what's going on in the company, but but some of
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Speaker 3: it's worth checking out. You know what else is maybe
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Speaker 3: worth checking out? The Detroit Tigers. They swept the White Sox.
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Speaker 3: They're they're good again. Seasons back on? Is that is
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Speaker 3: that where we're landing.
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Speaker 1: Hey, well look I'll say this, and we're recording this
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Speaker 1: a couple hours after the extra inning five to four
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Speaker 1: win to complete the sweep over the Chicago White Sox.
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Speaker 1: The number one takeaway Cody is like, this is what
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Speaker 1: it's supposed to look like. This is what has been
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Speaker 1: really like the source of frustration for fans and and
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Speaker 1: and and the baseball public at large is that, like
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Speaker 1: the Tigers, how many times did we talk about just
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Speaker 1: kind of like not having their identity or being robbed
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Speaker 1: of their identity. If you want to make excuses for
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Speaker 1: him with the injuries and this that the other thing,
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Speaker 1: freak stuff happening.
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Speaker 2: But this is what it's supposed to look like.
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Speaker 1: This is a team that, as you know, repeatedly had
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Speaker 1: to come back, had strong starting pitching, which by the way,
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Speaker 1: is like very much a theme of this month as
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Speaker 1: much as some of the offensive explosions.
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Speaker 2: And then having.
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Speaker 1: Like the the unsung heroes and the guys that you
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Speaker 1: least expect or least trust.
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Speaker 2: I guess maybe the best way to put it.
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Speaker 1: Coming through in big moments and the perfect way to
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Speaker 1: kind of think about this. I would encourage everybody to
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Speaker 1: just go back and think about who you have criticized
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Speaker 1: the most over these past you know.
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Speaker 2: Especially during May.
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Speaker 1: Let's just think about who you have gotten the most
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Speaker 1: mad at, had the fire, the rage, you know, tweet
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Speaker 1: out or didn't tweet out or whatever, texting your friends
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Speaker 1: who have you the frustration has mounted the most for you.
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Speaker 1: Pretty Much all of them had moments this weekend. So
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Speaker 1: obviously Jami with the leg out and we'll talk about
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Speaker 1: Jami some more to to get the single to and
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Speaker 1: field single to extend the game. Matt Vierling with with
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Speaker 1: the walk off and he had the home run and
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Speaker 1: the catch on the wall on Saturday, uh Torklesen with
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Speaker 1: with an RBI hit there and extras as well. Cole
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Speaker 1: Keith just kind of doing enough and kind of putting
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Speaker 1: the team in Chicago and like a uncomfortable situation that
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Speaker 1: ends up, you know, resulting the bases loaded. Ken Lee
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Speaker 1: Janssen two saves, back to back saves, Cody like hell
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Speaker 1: best today, Finnagan today, Like every single person you've been
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Speaker 1: mad at this year had something happen this weekend and
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Speaker 1: that's why it was one of those beautiful and in
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Speaker 1: some ways frustrating. If you just want to be able
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Speaker 1: to get a firm grasp with this team, like I
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Speaker 1: know you do weekend, I.
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Speaker 3: Mean, no, buckle up. I think I don't know if
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Speaker 3: we have a firm grasp on this team. But I
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Speaker 3: wouldn't be shocked if this continues. I wouldn't be shocked
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Speaker 3: if the Tigers continue playing five hundred or slightly above
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Speaker 3: five hundred baseball and make you want to pull your
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Speaker 3: hair out every time they lose and get ready to
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Speaker 3: sell off, and then every time they win, be like
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Speaker 3: oh uh oh, watch out, like I really you know,
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Speaker 3: and I think I did say something like there's a
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Speaker 3: ninety percent chance they trade Scooble, which was like somewhat
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Speaker 3: based on their playoff odds math. But there's a world
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Speaker 3: like where this gets really interesting. And how much faith
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Speaker 3: do I have that they can like actually get back
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Speaker 3: in the race. I'm not I'm not sure. I don't
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Speaker 3: know that I feel great about it, But I think
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Speaker 3: I feel better about that than the idea that they're
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Speaker 3: just going to go in the tank and be done.
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Speaker 3: That's just a little too simple and really honestly overlooks
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Speaker 3: the fact we're not yet halfway through the Major League
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Speaker 3: Baseball season. In the month of June, the Tigers are
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Speaker 3: sixth in OPS and they are second in e RA.
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Speaker 3: That's a that's a pretty good recipe. Look, they're they're
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Speaker 3: having a good month. It's not enough to make up
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Speaker 3: they They've gotten them all the all the themselves, all
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Speaker 3: the way back to eleven games under five hundreds. So like,
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Speaker 3: this is, this is just where we're at, and I
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Speaker 3: don't think it's gonna change. I think everyone has to
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Speaker 3: brace themselves for for kind of more of this and
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Speaker 3: more buyer seller speculation, uh than than maybe we would
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Speaker 3: have first anticipated.
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Speaker 1: I should also mention Zach McKinstry with the RBI today,
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Speaker 1: another guy that you know has had his struggles this
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Speaker 1: season obviously.
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Speaker 2: So uh so Yeah. I mean, like.
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Speaker 1: One of the questions that I kind of pose in
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Speaker 1: my mind coming into this weekend and especially after winning
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Speaker 1: the first two games, I was like, is there like
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Speaker 1: real tangible belief in that clubhouse, Like not like hey,
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Speaker 1: like we're gonna, you know, we're just gonna kind of
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Speaker 1: keep playing and see what happens, like real tangible belief.
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Speaker 1: And you can always overreact to the excitement of a
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Speaker 1: walk off in a series suite like that's that's kind
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Speaker 1: of a given. But at the same time, it doesn't
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Speaker 1: really seem like anybody's kind of doing anything out of character.
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Speaker 1: Like all these moments that I just described are things
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Speaker 1: that we have seen or in case of you know,
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Speaker 1: ken Ley, like over the course of a career, you know,
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Speaker 1: like these they don't seem out of pocket. Number one,
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Speaker 1: so that should lead us up to some belief. And
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Speaker 1: number two, it doesn't feel like they are. Like in
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Speaker 1: the pros game, pressure is like people throughout the word
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Speaker 1: pressure a lot, and I think I don't know what
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Speaker 1: every single player answers to that question. I don't know
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Speaker 1: if they're really playing with pressure, but it does kind
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Speaker 1: of feel like they're playing with urgency and they do
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Speaker 1: realize the importance of all these little things and you know,
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Speaker 1: kind of doing that balancing act of you know, not
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Speaker 1: worrying about the standings, but knowing that you got work
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Speaker 1: to do, you know. So, yeah, so what are your
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Speaker 1: observations about that notion? With the guys around.
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Speaker 3: The team, We'll say probably like anything you hear in
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Speaker 3: media comments as bs, because no one's ever really ever
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Speaker 3: being honest. But I will say, you know what, I
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Speaker 3: kind of like, I have not heard a lot of
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Speaker 3: the oh, we're just gonna take it one game at
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Speaker 3: the time, we just got to focus on today. There's
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Speaker 3: been more of a sentiment of like, we know where
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Speaker 3: we're at, we know everything matters all, you know, and
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Speaker 3: then you get the like all we can worry about
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Speaker 3: is today's game. But there is an acknowledgement that this
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Speaker 3: team has kind of screwed itself by how bad it
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Speaker 3: was in May, and there is an acknowledgement that, yeah,
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Speaker 3: there's a sense of urgency, like that's not necessarily being downplayed.
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Speaker 3: And I think that's probably a good thing, because obviously,
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Speaker 3: if there's not a sense of urgency and if you're
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Speaker 3: not aware of what's at stake here, we got a
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Speaker 3: real problem. If you're trying to act otherwise, we probably
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Speaker 3: have a real problem. I just like that that's being
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Speaker 3: kind of said out loud and maybe not veering too
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Speaker 3: much toward like results or oriented pressure and things like that.
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Speaker 3: But I think the urgency has sparked because it is
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Speaker 3: a little more do or die. For whatever reason, this
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Speaker 3: team over the past couple of years seems to respond
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Speaker 3: to that maybe more than they should. Maybe it makes
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Speaker 3: me worry that they ride the highs a little too
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Speaker 3: high and the lows a little too low. But I
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Speaker 3: think it's good that there's that there's some acknowledgment that,
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Speaker 3: you know, we're not pretending that the situation isn't bad
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Speaker 3: and that every game really matters right now.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know there's.
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Speaker 1: When you say that, the word that comes to mind
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Speaker 1: for me is maturity, because there because one of the
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Speaker 1: things that I've always maintained is like, look, there's a
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Speaker 1: way to kind of be real about what's going on
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Speaker 1: while also not like worrying about something happening next week,
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Speaker 1: like there is a balance there and and maybe you
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Speaker 1: can't go through that unless you or find that balance,
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Speaker 1: unless you kind of have seen the various highs and
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Speaker 1: lows a lot of these guys have experienced in the
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Speaker 1: major leagues in a short period of time.
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Speaker 2: Because I think, I like it, had this team.
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Speaker 1: Got really gone into the tank, and I guess everything
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Speaker 1: is still possible, right, but like, had this team really
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Speaker 1: gone into the tank, that would have been the most
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Speaker 1: disappointing thing to me is that like that level of
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Speaker 1: maturity and understanding of what it takes to be a
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Speaker 1: winning baseball team didn't net itself anything, right, And that's
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Speaker 1: really what it looked like for much of the month
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Speaker 1: of May.
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Speaker 2: Now I now, for now, I.
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Speaker 1: Feel like I can kind of put that to rest,
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Speaker 1: that that worry to rest. Still a ton to worry about,
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Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but like that little worry I
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Speaker 1: can kind of put to rest. And I don't know,
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Speaker 1: like I'm a believer that leadership, like like everyone kind
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Speaker 1: of reflects on the leaders of the team. And if
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Speaker 1: you want to go back to Trek Schouble saying like, hey,
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Speaker 1: like you know, like we gotta do it. We gotta
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Speaker 1: make some plays, you knowly blah blah blah kind of
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Speaker 1: challenging his teammates if you would. There's nothing, there's no
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Speaker 1: other way than to describe, like, hey, like this, they
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Speaker 1: wrote to the challenge like again, Jamai Jones, Specchia Thorlson,
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Speaker 1: Cole Keith, Matt Verling, Zach mckistry, ken Lee Janssen, like
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Speaker 1: all these guys rose to the challenge in various ways
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Speaker 1: this weekend, and it gets us feeling like it it's
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Speaker 1: not impossible, right, you know, And so like I do
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Speaker 1: believe those things are related. In credit to school Ball
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Speaker 1: for not being shy about like voicing that.
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Speaker 3: I think that's leadership. That's something that you don't necessarily
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Speaker 3: get a lot of around that team is just being
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Speaker 3: real like that, and Errek more or less saying, yeah,
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Speaker 3: if we don't start playing better, like they're gonna be
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Speaker 3: rumors about me, there're gonna be rumors about a lot
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Speaker 3: of other guys in this clubhouse. And just like laying
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Speaker 3: it on the line because that's reality. And then you
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Speaker 3: want to talk about Schooble. Look what happened in this start.
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Speaker 3: Terrek gets a little fired up. He's John with the
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Speaker 3: other team. You know Mike Vassel a random injured pitcher
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Speaker 3: who I guess he's like a part time magician, you know,
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Speaker 3: for the White Sox. I don't know if he was
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Speaker 3: stocking trash or not. Could never really get to the
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Speaker 3: bottom of what was going on. By the way, I
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Speaker 3: liked what Vassal said. He was just like, yeah, he
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Speaker 3: had some choice words for me. I had some choice
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Speaker 3: words for him. It was good stuff. He like was
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Speaker 3: kind of leaning into it, playing into it. But that emotion, Karen, like,
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Speaker 3: that sort of emotion, I think you can say is
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Speaker 3: kind of what this team has lacked and missed. That fire,
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Speaker 3: that edge, it sure comes out of Trek Scooble, And
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Speaker 3: I think Trek has a way of bringing a little
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Speaker 3: more edge out of his teammates on days he pitches. Look,
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Speaker 3: that doesn't mean he needs to be yelling in the
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Speaker 3: opposing dugout every single game or whatever. You know, let's
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Speaker 3: not go overboard. But I like seeing the ad from
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Speaker 3: Trek Scooble. I don't think it's coincidence that the team
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Speaker 3: happened to play really well this weekend and responded in
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Speaker 3: that particular game not long after Terrek was stirring up
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Speaker 3: a little bit of controversy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well this is this is like a cousin of
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Speaker 1: the conversation we had about like a couple of weeks
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Speaker 1: ago about like eyes with edge or whatever.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so like it.
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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know these guys personally, but like
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Speaker 1: Torque seems like a you know, nice kid, Riley Green
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Speaker 1: seems like a nice kid. Like, you know, you got
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Speaker 1: all these nice guys on the team. Maybe this was something,
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Speaker 1: but they they kind of needed school to just like
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Speaker 1: pull it out of them a little bit. And again,
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Speaker 1: all those guys had moments this weekend, so you can't
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Speaker 1: say they didn't do their job. All right, we are
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Speaker 1: going to take a quick break and then afterward I
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Speaker 1: have the greatest thing to say about Dylan Dingler.
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Speaker 2: All right, come back here. I lied.
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Speaker 1: I don't have the greatest thing to say about Dylan
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Speaker 1: Dingler because I just feel like every like, what is
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Speaker 1: there left to say about this guy other than wow?
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Speaker 2: And if you want to talk about belief like earlier, I.
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Speaker 1: Don't know about you, Cody, but I had very much
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Speaker 1: like belief like ding Dylan Dingler was gonna come through
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Speaker 1: in that moment in the ninth then like it just
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Speaker 1: felt like, this is exactly the guy that you want
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Speaker 1: up at this time, you know, especially this month.
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Speaker 2: This series, you know, this season.
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Speaker 1: Whatever do you want if you had your pick of
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Speaker 1: the litter on this Tigers team, where you take it.
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Speaker 2: Dylan Ingler first? Second, He ain't third, you know what
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Speaker 2: I mean.
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Speaker 3: I'll take him second Byan McGonagall, And there's no surprise
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Speaker 3: Kevin McGonagall and Dylan Dingler the back to back hits.
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Speaker 3: After Jami Jones gets on base and it's crazy like
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Speaker 3: Jamia was up and it's kind of like, all right,
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Speaker 3: this game might be over. And then he's on base
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Speaker 3: and it was kind of well, you got McGonagall and
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Speaker 3: then you got Dingler. I suddenly did not feel at
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Speaker 3: all like that game was over. I mean, it is incredible.
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Speaker 3: Every time Kevin mcgonagal walks up there, I'm like, he's
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Speaker 3: he's probably gonna have a good at bat, He's probably
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Speaker 3: gonna hit the ball hard somewhere. And it's become a
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Speaker 3: similar conversation with Dingler, who, by the way, does have
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Speaker 3: leave the yard power eighteen home runs we're not even
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Speaker 3: halfway through the season. From a catcher, I mean, that
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Speaker 3: is pretty incredible. Yeah, this guy's having a charmed year.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, talk about sort of the ying
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Speaker 1: and the yang, like him kind of holding school back
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Speaker 1: in the in the dugout during that exchange like that,
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Speaker 1: because again, we just raved about schoobl and that attitude
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Speaker 1: in that edge and all that stuff. But you also
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Speaker 1: need guys like Dingler where it's just like, yeah, job
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Speaker 1: get done, We're good, you know what I mean, especially yeah,
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Speaker 1: from someone like your catcher.
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Speaker 3: Should we talk a little more about schoobl just because
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Speaker 3: I've seen some comments like, oh, he's it's not the same,
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Speaker 3: his trade value is diminishing and.
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Speaker 2: Cool.
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Speaker 3: I know, I would say his stuff is still grading
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Speaker 3: out like pretty much elite, and he's not been at
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Speaker 3: his best. The Vilo is like ninety six ninety seven
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Speaker 3: as opposed to like ninety nine one hundred. You know,
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Speaker 3: he gave up two homers on his change up, which
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Speaker 3: is one of the best pitches in all of baseball
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Speaker 3: when he's right. I don't think it's had quite that
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Speaker 3: same bite. Some of the execution hasn't been totally the same,
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Speaker 3: and he still goes five and two third three runs
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Speaker 3: like you will take that from anyone else on the planet.
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Speaker 3: I think it's fair given what is at stake, given
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Speaker 3: that the trade value does matter, all that stuff. Something
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Speaker 3: to watch as Tarrett continues to kind of get reacclimated
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Speaker 3: to this rotation. I do think we want to see
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Speaker 3: a little bit of a step forward to that like
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Speaker 3: cy Young level. Oh, no one can hit this guy,
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Speaker 3: but I'm certainly not panicking or reacting yet. He's been fine.
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Speaker 3: This stuff has been pretty good. I would say the
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Speaker 3: command overall was even his second ounting was better than
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Speaker 3: the first one. Aj Hinch basically said, I think he'll
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Speaker 3: be even better five or six days from now, so
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Speaker 3: I will be interested to see, you know, will he
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Speaker 3: continue to take kind of these small steps forward as
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Speaker 3: he basically just built this volume up, knocks off some rust.
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Speaker 3: I don't think it's wrong to like make note that
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Speaker 3: he hasn't been his very best, but just something to watch,
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Speaker 3: and I don't think anything to really be concerned about
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Speaker 3: right now.
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Speaker 1: My thoughts on that are, like, look, dude, if you're
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Speaker 1: watching Arrek schoobl outings, like as a as a Tigers fan,
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Speaker 1: presumably if you're watching Terrek school outings and you're lamenting
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Speaker 1: him not being one hundred percent erk school because of
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Speaker 1: the potential trade value going down. I I would probably
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Speaker 1: tip off like the FBI for your Internet search history,
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Speaker 1: because there's probably something there's probably there's probably something there.
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying there's probably something there. Now you're a
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Speaker 1: little bit ashamed of. If that's what your first thought, what.
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Speaker 2: Do you then? What do you want?
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Speaker 4: Like?
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Speaker 2: What do you want?
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Speaker 3: Like?
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Speaker 2: Do you do you want?
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Speaker 1: Do you want like him to do well so you
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Speaker 1: can have a better return on the trade, so you
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Speaker 1: can trade Tark schoobl Is that like your number one?
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Speaker 2: Like hope? Then what are we doing here?
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Speaker 3: Then?
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Speaker 2: What are we doing here? All right? Something? No?
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Speaker 3: I I literally think too many other pictures were like
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Speaker 3: dominant in his absence. I think now it's like, oh,
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Speaker 3: he's not Miserowski or Kim Schlitzler punching out thirteen every time?
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Speaker 3: Like is he actually even that good? I think our
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Speaker 3: brains got a little bit distorted in the five weeks
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Speaker 3: trek Whober wasn't pitching.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say that point of view on June
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Speaker 1: nineteenth is distorted.
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Speaker 3: I would like to see him throw like one hundred again.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be cool.
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Speaker 1: But I'm but like to have that point of view
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Speaker 1: a second start after an but really it's kind of
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Speaker 1: like an experimental procedure. And really his only only his
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Speaker 1: second outing period without that thing rattling around in his elbow,
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Speaker 1: you know, because he said it's been there the entire year.
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Speaker 2: Uh, like, take take a chill pill. Is I guess
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Speaker 2: the nicer way of doing that.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's let's do this. We should give you, say,
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Speaker 1: talk about school more. We should give Jamai a little
17:58
Speaker 1: bit more love here, Cody, because I I feel like
18:01
Speaker 1: like he's obviously, I mean it was parent on Saturday,
18:05
Speaker 1: like probably the least popular and now batting guy on
18:10
Speaker 1: the team. And and look it sucks. Obviously nobody wants
18:14
Speaker 1: to be booed. And I understand what the frustration is
18:17
Speaker 1: when when he comes in that situation and then of
18:19
Speaker 1: course like does not deliver. But he got the two
18:22
Speaker 1: at batch today, same old story, first at Bad and
18:26
Speaker 1: then something like something like if the Tigers do go
18:30
Speaker 1: on some sort of run, it's that legging that single
18:34
Speaker 1: out is going to be on the like turning point
18:38
Speaker 1: highlight reel. This is when the team started just kind
18:42
Speaker 1: of finding itself.
18:43
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah. It was that kind of moment.
18:45
Speaker 1: I remember thinking like, man, it would be kind of
18:47
Speaker 1: neat if this started something, and it did start something
18:50
Speaker 1: at least for a day, and so you got to
18:51
Speaker 1: give him at least credit because again, belief, attitude, all
18:54
Speaker 1: these things that we're talking about today, If there was
18:57
Speaker 1: ever a guy that would not or our situation would
19:01
Speaker 1: not leg out a play like that, it would be
19:04
Speaker 1: what Jamai has gone through this year, you know, And
19:07
Speaker 1: I don't think it would have been. He wouldn't have
19:08
Speaker 1: been criticized for that, you know what I mean. But
19:11
Speaker 1: he got down the line, he was safe, and you know,
19:14
Speaker 1: and we're over here talking about a sweep very much
19:16
Speaker 1: because of it. Yeah.
19:18
Speaker 3: Absolutely, we should have a segment, the thread the Needle segment,
19:22
Speaker 3: where we talk about difficult things and try to have
19:25
Speaker 3: some nuance. So here's our first and threat inaugural Threading
19:29
Speaker 3: the Needle segment. I'm gonna talk about the baseball first.
19:34
Speaker 3: Jamie Jones got two two hits this series, which is
19:37
Speaker 3: certainly better than zero, so maybe a small sign of life. Now,
19:43
Speaker 3: a hard hit grounder and an infield single does not
19:46
Speaker 3: necessarily make me feel a lot better about the situation.
19:51
Speaker 3: A j hinchpinship three righties against a lefty with reverse splits,
19:55
Speaker 3: and then left himself susceptible to a run of three
19:59
Speaker 3: rights against Sir Anthony Dimingez in the ninth I didn't
20:03
Speaker 3: really love that. I mean, I guess like Vierling has
20:06
Speaker 3: been good against lefties, so you give him a shot.
20:08
Speaker 3: Trey Cruz the right hand swing doesn't do a lot,
20:11
Speaker 3: so Lee. And then Lee gets on base, so maybe
20:13
Speaker 3: you want to take your shot with Jones, but then
20:15
Speaker 3: you I don't know, man, I'm skinting harder and harder
20:19
Speaker 3: to defend all the time, right but aj keeps doing it.
20:22
Speaker 3: And we talked like he's trying to send like some message.
20:25
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, he just keeps doing it. So
20:28
Speaker 3: that is what it is. I think if I were
20:30
Speaker 3: running the Tigers, Jami Jones would probably be off the
20:33
Speaker 3: roster right now. But I don't run the Tigers. What
20:36
Speaker 3: I do is I cover the Tigers, and covering the
20:38
Speaker 3: Tigers means I also have to be very cognizant of
20:41
Speaker 3: the human element. I know these guys, some better than others,
20:46
Speaker 3: but I see them every day. You build relationships through
20:49
Speaker 3: the course of that, and Jami Jones is certainly one
20:51
Speaker 3: of the best humans on that team. It kind of feels,
20:55
Speaker 3: you know, it sucks when they're booing, especially because I
20:58
Speaker 3: think the boos were really dry. Did probably more toward
21:01
Speaker 3: aj or to the front office, right, But Jami's feeling
21:04
Speaker 3: that and turns out, you know, there was a lot
21:09
Speaker 3: on his mind Sunday Father's Day. This is a guy
21:12
Speaker 3: who lost his father as a young age. This is
21:15
Speaker 3: his first year being a father himself. So he's on
21:18
Speaker 3: first base and someone asked, you know, what are you thinking?
21:21
Speaker 3: He said, what am I not thinking about? He talked
21:25
Speaker 3: about the booze and you know understands it, but it's hard,
21:29
Speaker 3: you know, he said, that's the first time an entire
21:31
Speaker 3: statement has bowed me, he said on Father's Day. You know,
21:34
Speaker 3: it's like, you gotta be kidding me. And I don't
21:36
Speaker 3: think he said that with like spite toward the fans.
21:38
Speaker 3: Just like obviously stuff has kind of sucked for Jemi,
21:42
Speaker 3: and it doesn't mean he's not trying, but it sucked.
21:44
Speaker 3: And he's been the face of kind of a bigger
21:47
Speaker 3: issue that the Tigers are having and what's been a
21:50
Speaker 3: very frustrating season. But if there's any lesson to take
21:55
Speaker 3: from Sunday's game, Like, if I ever have a child,
22:00
Speaker 3: I don't have a child. If I ever have a child,
22:02
Speaker 3: I'd kind of wanted to be like Jamai Jones. What
22:05
Speaker 3: Jami Jones do? Hustled his ass off one point three
22:09
Speaker 3: feet per second over his normal speed to beat out
22:12
Speaker 3: a ground ball in the ninth inning, when the whole
22:15
Speaker 3: world is stacked against him, when he's dealing with some emotions,
22:19
Speaker 3: you know, related to his personal life, when people are
22:23
Speaker 3: booing him when everything's bad. All right, when everything's bad,
22:27
Speaker 3: what do you do? You give up? Do you sulk?
22:31
Speaker 3: Or do you keep showing up? You keep going at it?
22:34
Speaker 3: Jamie Jones kept showing up, kept going at it, did
22:37
Speaker 3: a small thing that helped his team win the game.
22:41
Speaker 3: Talked about all this post game. It was pretty cool
22:43
Speaker 3: to hear. So, you know, a great job by Jambai
22:48
Speaker 3: on just a human level.
22:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm never one to dismiss the human element.
22:55
Speaker 1: And I think regardless of what the correct move is,
22:59
Speaker 1: Like you said, like you know, probably not the best
23:03
Speaker 1: use of a roster spot based on his play this year,
23:07
Speaker 1: but I'm also a big fan of just like you know,
23:09
Speaker 1: the dude had a moment this year. And that's pretty
23:11
Speaker 1: cool too, especially on his first Father's Day, Like I
23:14
Speaker 1: don't want to I don't want to like overlook that
23:17
Speaker 1: kind of stuff because that stuff does matter, and it
23:19
Speaker 1: is really cool and and there are some life lessons there,
23:22
Speaker 1: like like you laid out all right, Uh, let's get
23:26
Speaker 1: to our next little segment. Cod Cody has tigned their mind. Everybody,
23:29
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23:38
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23:39
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23:43
Speaker 1: So funny thing about Riley Green. Funny thing about Riley
23:46
Speaker 1: Green Man. Just when you think you kind of, you know,
23:49
Speaker 1: talk about not having the Tigers figured out, Just when
23:51
Speaker 1: you kind of think you have Riley Green figured it out,
23:53
Speaker 1: he goes and just kind of does like a little
23:55
Speaker 1: bit of a one to.
23:56
Speaker 2: Eighty in a certain way.
23:58
Speaker 1: He does not have a hit against He's only got
24:01
Speaker 1: three plate appearances. He's got to walk and no hits
24:05
Speaker 1: against Garatt Cole in his career. The Yankees starter on Monday,
24:09
Speaker 1: and Riley Green. We loathed the strikeouts last year, but
24:14
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, you know, he hit thirty seven home runs.
24:18
Speaker 2: Then the power wasn't there this year. I'll tell you what.
24:22
Speaker 2: The month of May was very good to Riley Green.
24:25
Speaker 1: Like three, I got this in front of me right now,
24:29
Speaker 1: a three twenty batting average with a three to ninety
24:32
Speaker 1: one on base so well, everything else was sucking.
24:35
Speaker 2: Riley Green was hitting the cover off the ball. Right.
24:37
Speaker 1: They had zero home runs month of June. Four home runs,
24:41
Speaker 1: that's half of his total of eight so far. And
24:44
Speaker 1: coming into today he was patting two thirty seven with
24:47
Speaker 1: a three twenty nine on.
24:48
Speaker 2: Base So.
24:51
Speaker 1: What's the real Riley Green kbe like for twenty twenty six?
24:56
Speaker 1: I guess what's the real like twenty twenty six Riley Green?
24:58
Speaker 1: Because it feels like we're doing we're doing some roller
25:03
Speaker 1: coaster in if you would with Riley Green.
25:05
Speaker 2: I mean that, you know, in a fun way, not
25:07
Speaker 2: a group.
25:08
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, at least when the average goes down,
25:11
Speaker 3: the power did tick up a little bit, right, I
25:13
Speaker 3: mean he's still hitting to ninety. I do think the
25:17
Speaker 3: chase has gone up. He's even up to ninety strikeouts already.
25:20
Speaker 3: This guy still kind of strikes out a lot, but
25:22
Speaker 3: I mean he's having a heck of the season. It
25:24
Speaker 3: was actually good to see the ball leave the yard
25:26
Speaker 3: a little bit, just a reminder like, no, this guy
25:29
Speaker 3: can still hit for plenty of power. There's nothing wrong there.
25:33
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think these are just kind of
25:35
Speaker 3: the ebbs and flows of the season. That's how I
25:37
Speaker 3: look at it. Although I have pointed out multiple times,
25:39
Speaker 3: like trying to be cognizant of his playing time, his
25:41
Speaker 3: fatigue level. Could that be factoring in at all? But
25:45
Speaker 3: I don't know that I that I have any grand takeaway.
25:47
Speaker 3: I haven't really noticed anything drastically different in his swing
25:51
Speaker 3: mechanics or anything. I think maybe he started to come
25:54
Speaker 3: out of the approach just a little bit, but he's
25:57
Speaker 3: also hit the ball of the yard. There's some people
25:58
Speaker 3: who want to see him hit the ball of the
26:00
Speaker 3: already started doing that a little bit more so I think.
26:02
Speaker 1: Sorry, yeah, well again, like you know, looking at things
26:07
Speaker 1: like ops, it's actually better than it was in May.
26:09
Speaker 1: And you know, only seven ribbies in May. He's got
26:12
Speaker 1: you know, he came into today with eight or whatever,
26:15
Speaker 1: so and you know and then today and extra endings
26:17
Speaker 1: just hit the ball too hard. Yeah, otherwise you know
26:22
Speaker 1: carry Carpenter is able to score it.
26:23
Speaker 2: There that would have That would have been one of
26:25
Speaker 2: those things where that.
26:26
Speaker 1: Would have been like really deflating to like lose the game,
26:30
Speaker 1: and in part because you couldn't get the tying run
26:34
Speaker 1: over because Riley Green hit the ball too hard so
26:37
Speaker 1: Carry Carpenter could score for a second like that have
26:40
Speaker 1: That'd have been some stuff man had had it worked,
26:42
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26:46
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26:48
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26:51
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26:52
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26:56
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26:58
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27:01
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28:02
Speaker 2: Right, couldy fun little nugget?
28:04
Speaker 1: Speaking of everything that kind of happened today, I don't
28:09
Speaker 1: know if this might be worth investigating. I want to
28:12
Speaker 1: tell you how to do your job. But the blue
28:13
Speaker 1: bats today were absent in this, in this comeback. They
28:19
Speaker 1: seemed like they didn't have the magic with them. And
28:22
Speaker 1: so the Tigers went back to their usual bats and
28:24
Speaker 1: uh and and came back and won the game. There
28:27
Speaker 1: were a couple of broken bats. I feel like at
28:29
Speaker 1: least three so I.
28:30
Speaker 2: Don't know if anything there.
28:32
Speaker 3: It's kind of weird.
28:34
Speaker 1: Players petitions, you know, this, that the other thing, but
28:37
Speaker 1: they were kind of like, all right, yeah, Father's Day,
28:39
Speaker 1: it's cool, but I think my father would rather get
28:41
Speaker 1: a basic you know, go up to the plate with this,
28:43
Speaker 1: with this blue bat another time.
28:45
Speaker 2: So just just a little nugget. I don't know if
28:47
Speaker 2: there's anything there.
28:47
Speaker 1: I'll to see if that happened across Major League Baseball
28:50
Speaker 1: today as well, but obviously the Mother's Day, of the
28:53
Speaker 1: Father's Day, all that stuff, you know, great thing that
28:55
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball does each day. All right, let's get
29:00
Speaker 1: to some house cleaning stuff. Justin Verlander. Today was supposed
29:04
Speaker 1: to be his return, and that obviously did not occur.
29:09
Speaker 1: And it just kind of feels it feels like you
29:15
Speaker 1: almost kind of kind of put the hope on the
29:17
Speaker 1: shelf a little bit until you get like actual better
29:20
Speaker 1: information because it just holding on to it just probably
29:24
Speaker 1: is going to drive you more insane than not. I
29:27
Speaker 1: would say it, just you know, hopefully he gets right,
29:30
Speaker 1: you know, hopefully you know, we get to see him
29:33
Speaker 1: at America Park in the old English d But when that,
29:37
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wait until that happens to really kind of
29:39
Speaker 1: let my let occupy any ram I got up in
29:42
Speaker 1: my nogget.
29:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good thing that Tigers won three games
29:47
Speaker 3: this weekend. You know, I walked into the America Park
29:49
Speaker 3: and Friday, first game of a home stand, and kind
29:52
Speaker 3: of the first thing we heard Verlander scratched and go
29:56
Speaker 3: and talk to Justin Verlander, and it was it's pretty
29:59
Speaker 3: depres To JV's credit, he was he was pretty raw
30:04
Speaker 3: and honest. He was pretty emotional and introspective. You guys
30:09
Speaker 3: probably saw the quote. I always said I'd pitch until
30:11
Speaker 3: the wheels fall off, and I don't know, maybe they
30:13
Speaker 3: are falling off. I hope not. I hope not. You know,
30:17
Speaker 3: that's what he said. It was pretty frank. I think
30:19
Speaker 3: he certainly seems concerned in our mind. I think he
30:22
Speaker 3: was concerned before he reported this hamstring injury, just he
30:26
Speaker 3: knew the quality of his stuff wasn't where it needed
30:29
Speaker 3: to be. But then right, you know, he was talking
30:32
Speaker 3: to himself into maybe if I get back out there,
30:34
Speaker 3: maybe if I get the adrenaline of a major league game,
30:36
Speaker 3: and it suddenly became possible, like what, man, maybe he's
30:39
Speaker 3: just gonna go out there and grind his way through
30:41
Speaker 3: five innings and it's gonna be a really great Father's day.
30:45
Speaker 3: But that wasn't meant to be. Ends up with a
30:47
Speaker 3: hamstring injury. Sounds like he's gonna be shut down from throwing.
30:50
Speaker 3: Sounds like we don't really know what exactly is ahead now. Verlander,
30:55
Speaker 3: of course did say, you know, he's gonna keep trying,
30:57
Speaker 3: He's gonna keep working, do all he can to get
30:59
Speaker 3: back help this team. He committed to the Tigers for
31:02
Speaker 3: this season, all that good stuff, and I certainly think
31:05
Speaker 3: that is true. But it's really hard to know what
31:08
Speaker 3: is ahead. It sounds like he's gonna be out. I
31:12
Speaker 3: don't know how long. Aj Hinch said a matter of weeks.
31:15
Speaker 3: So if he's shut down from throwing, like, are they
31:17
Speaker 3: gonna do like a full spring training build up or
31:20
Speaker 3: are they gonna do like a quick build up, Like
31:22
Speaker 3: we don't really know. It sounds like are we gonna
31:26
Speaker 3: see any chance of seeing Justin Verlander before August? Before
31:29
Speaker 3: the trade deadline? I don't get the sense there's a
31:32
Speaker 3: great hope of that. And then the further you push
31:35
Speaker 3: this thing, you know, suddenly you start running out a day.
31:38
Speaker 3: So it is concerning both for all the people who
31:41
Speaker 3: would love to see Justin Verlander pitch, both for Justin Verlander,
31:44
Speaker 3: who clearly wants to end his career on a positive note,
31:49
Speaker 3: for the Tiger, for Scott Harris, who does not need
31:51
Speaker 3: to sign another pitcher who doesn't pitch at all. Yeah,
31:56
Speaker 3: it's really not a great situation. It's become an awkward situation.
32:01
Speaker 3: It's it's not gone at all according to script and
32:04
Speaker 3: that sucks.
32:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sucks.
32:06
Speaker 1: Don't have much more to add than that. It just sucks.
32:10
Speaker 1: And again, hopefully there he has his moment in some way.
32:14
Speaker 1: But as I was telling my dad today, it's like,
32:18
Speaker 1: you know, Highwood Endings almost exclusively exists in Hollywood, you
32:22
Speaker 1: know for these guys, And just a reminder of that
32:25
Speaker 1: if this, you know, if this does kind of go
32:27
Speaker 1: that way, again, hopefully it.
32:29
Speaker 2: Does not, all right.
32:30
Speaker 1: And then we also saw Trey Cruise Tray Cruse. We
32:32
Speaker 1: like to acknowledge major league debuts on this podcast. Trey
32:35
Speaker 1: Cruz made his major league debut, had the family there.
32:38
Speaker 2: That was really cool, and uh.
32:40
Speaker 1: It's because Wenzel Perez unfortunately had a freak accident and
32:44
Speaker 1: we talked about, you know, with the exercise band and
32:48
Speaker 1: looks like he avoided like significant injury, but obviously he's.
32:52
Speaker 2: Gonna be like he's not even back in Detroit yet.
32:56
Speaker 3: I believe he is. And I he fractured it is
33:00
Speaker 3: orbital bone, so I would call it a significant injury.
33:02
Speaker 3: I think there's just a great like, is this guy
33:04
Speaker 3: gonna lose his eyesight or anything. It sounds like no,
33:07
Speaker 3: it sounds like the long term prognosis is good. But
33:10
Speaker 3: the more we learn about this, it certainly sounds very scary.
33:14
Speaker 3: Wasn't initially cleared to fly. I do believe he has
33:17
Speaker 3: returned to Detroit. Yeah, I think something to keep an
33:23
Speaker 3: eye on too. With winsle like it. This just sounds
33:25
Speaker 3: like a scary, scary injury. And yeah, it makes me
33:28
Speaker 3: never want to touch a plio band again.
33:31
Speaker 2: Yeah and again.
33:32
Speaker 1: Just to kind of get to the you know, focus
33:34
Speaker 1: on the baseball part of this, hopefully you know went
33:36
Speaker 1: so it's okay heels and you know, all the all
33:38
Speaker 1: the you know, personal stuff there, but Tray Cruz getting
33:42
Speaker 1: the call up to me, it felt natural. Forty man
33:45
Speaker 1: switch hitter Versul defensively hoping you can kind of get
33:51
Speaker 1: something out of the bat unlocked out of the bat
33:53
Speaker 1: unlocked a little bit. I know, obviously the numbers in
33:55
Speaker 1: Triple A weren't great this year, but it was also hurt.
33:58
Speaker 1: So I wasn't outraged by it because it just kind
34:02
Speaker 1: of checked all the boxes for how I kind of
34:04
Speaker 1: viewed the Tigers.
34:05
Speaker 2: You know, would approach something like.
34:07
Speaker 3: This, Yeah, I mean, this is this is how they operate.
34:10
Speaker 3: They're trying to keep the roster functioning the same way,
34:13
Speaker 3: so they lose a switch hitter. They brought up a
34:15
Speaker 3: switch hitter. If they were gonna call up Ben mal
34:18
Speaker 3: Jerry or someone right handed platoon outfield bad, I think
34:21
Speaker 3: it would make more sense to just make that swap
34:23
Speaker 3: for Jemi. Calling up let's say, mal Jerry or Corey
34:27
Speaker 3: Jolkes for Winsle almost leaves you with kind of duplicate
34:31
Speaker 3: roster pieces and it would be weird. I'm happy for
34:35
Speaker 3: tree Cruz. You know, this is a guy who worked
34:37
Speaker 3: really hard, who had to overcome some injuries. He had
34:40
Speaker 3: Tommy John surgery, he had some adversity, had years where
34:43
Speaker 3: he didn't hit, spend parts of what three or four
34:46
Speaker 3: different seasons in Double A. You know, got to that
34:49
Speaker 3: point where a lot of guys just kind of flame out.
34:51
Speaker 3: He didn't. He kept working, had a really nice year
34:54
Speaker 3: last year. It's pretty impressive in spring training earlier, you know,
34:58
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, and Brace going to the outfield.
35:01
Speaker 3: So now you think, okay, switch hitter, play center, play
35:04
Speaker 3: short plays everywhere, like that's a good way to remain employed.
35:08
Speaker 3: And you know now here he is. He finally gets
35:11
Speaker 3: a shot. Third generation big league family, only the fifth ever.
35:14
Speaker 3: That's really cool. Talk to both his grandfather and his
35:18
Speaker 3: father on Sunday. Jose Cruise Junior, A lot of people
35:22
Speaker 3: forget part of aj Hinch's original Tigers coaching staff for
35:26
Speaker 3: a few months before he left to take the job
35:28
Speaker 3: at Rice. Really sharp guy, really great baseball family. I
35:32
Speaker 3: actually have a little more on them, I think coming Tuesday.
35:35
Speaker 3: You know, Jose Cruz Junior, excuse me senior. Back in
35:39
Speaker 3: the day, you know, came from nothing. He was grinding
35:42
Speaker 3: away in Puerto Rico, almost gave up, almost quit baseball.
35:46
Speaker 3: He didn't. Three generations later, Man, what a life he
35:49
Speaker 3: has built. So happy you get Trake, happy to see
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Speaker 3: Trey Cruse get his shot as a player. A little
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Speaker 3: bit of concern about the bat. He's pretty good from
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Speaker 3: the left side, not so good from the right. I
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Speaker 3: think a great model actually for like what you would
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Speaker 3: want him to be is when so Perez can he
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Speaker 3: kind of defend himself in the box, have good at bats,
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Speaker 3: have some pop. I think Cruz has a chance to
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Speaker 3: be maybe a better or at least a more like
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Speaker 3: consistent defender than Perez. And he also plays in field,
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Speaker 3: So you know, if you could become something like that,
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Speaker 3: that would be good for both the Tigers and for
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Speaker 3: Trey Cruz's chances of sustaining career in the big leagues.
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Speaker 3: I think he's an interesting player. We'll see what he becomes.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say, you know his profile and you
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Speaker 1: throw in the lineage that's part of his profile too.
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Speaker 1: And what he could potentially do is going to give
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Speaker 1: you every Like that's the kind of guy that you
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Speaker 1: want to give every single opportunity possible in order to
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Speaker 1: see if something is there, if something can stick. So
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Speaker 1: I have no problem, like I said, with them calling
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Speaker 1: him up for for Wentzel and again hopefully you know,
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Speaker 1: good news to hear that, and so UH could be
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Speaker 1: back in Detroit and you know avoided like you know,
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Speaker 1: vision loss type stuff.
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Speaker 2: UH with with that accident Uh, all right, is there
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Speaker 2: anything else? I'm sure we missed something. Is it? Like
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Speaker 2: it felt like there was so much that happen this.
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Speaker 3: This weekend, But Drew Summers is really good now it's
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Speaker 3: been a lot better. That kind of matters.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I do think aj Hinch summed it
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Speaker 1: up well with the high character win like that, like
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Speaker 1: all these things that we talked about really fall into
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Speaker 1: like high character you know, baseball that results in winning
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Speaker 1: baseball and what they preach and.
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Speaker 2: All that stuff.
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Speaker 1: And if only for a weekend, Cody, damn it, Like
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Speaker 1: we saw all that kind of come together in its
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Speaker 1: own way.
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Speaker 2: And so it was fun. It's a fun weekend.
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Speaker 1: It seemed like a lot of people are having a
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Speaker 1: good time at America this weekend. The black and baseball
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Speaker 1: stuff is always great. Uh so so yeah.
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Speaker 3: Really good crowds actually, given you know, the team's record,
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Speaker 3: I was I was almost surprised to see, you know,
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Speaker 3: crowds turn out in full force, but really probably the
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Speaker 3: best crowds of the year for sure, and they got
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Speaker 3: plenty of even when they boo, at least they're invested, right, and.
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Speaker 1: You know, this home stand uh extends with the Yankees
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Speaker 1: and the astro, so plenty of opportunities to see it.
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Speaker 2: The Tigers really, you know they do this damn thing?
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Speaker 2: Can they do it?
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Speaker 3: Let's see how we're feeling after the Yankees series. They
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Speaker 3: missed Cam Schlitzer. At least they do get Garrett Cole.
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Speaker 1: All right, you guys can follow this on expertly known
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Speaker 1: You guys know what to do. We appreciate all of you,
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Speaker 2: Everybody have great