Latest / UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT / Five Really Weird Extraterrestrial Encounters
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hello everyone. My name is Preston Dennett, and welcome to
- 0:03Speaker 1: a new episode of UFOs and the Paranormal. Today's episode
- 0:07Speaker 1: I call five really weird extraterrestrial encounters. I think UFO
- 0:13Speaker 1: encounters are, by their nature very unusual. It shouldn't be
- 0:18Speaker 1: this way. There are a lot of people having encounters.
- 0:21Speaker 1: I think the only reason people are even skepticals because
- 0:25Speaker 1: there's been a very well orchestrated and well funded cover
- 0:29Speaker 1: up and disinformation campaign by our own governments. It's such
- 0:34Speaker 1: a shame because a lot of people are having these experiences.
- 0:38Speaker 1: I've chosen five cases which are really unusual. That's the
- 0:42Speaker 1: theme of today's collection. These are cases which have unique
- 0:47Speaker 1: and high strangeness elements, some I've actually never heard before that.
- 0:52Speaker 1: These are cases from all over the world. I have
- 0:55Speaker 1: a case from Canada, one from the US, one from Brazil,
- 1:00Speaker 1: one from England, one from Denmark, so quite widespread geographically speaking.
- 1:06Speaker 1: The earliest case took place in nineteen forty the latest
- 1:10Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty nine, so over a long period of
- 1:13Speaker 1: time as well. And yeah, each contain really unique elements
- 1:19Speaker 1: that provide I think, interesting insights into the nature of
- 1:22Speaker 1: the phenomena. Every single one of these cases involves sightings, landings,
- 1:28Speaker 1: face to face encounters with humanoids, and an on board
- 1:32Speaker 1: experience as well. There is one which is a little
- 1:35Speaker 1: bit questionable in that regard, but the witness did have
- 1:38Speaker 1: missing time, so I think quite likely he was taken
- 1:41Speaker 1: on board, though he does not actually recall this. But
- 1:45Speaker 1: still super interesting because these cases all have evidence of
- 1:49Speaker 1: one form of another physical evidence, so hopefully you'll find
- 1:53Speaker 1: it interesting. Well, let's just get started. First case I
- 1:57Speaker 1: want to talk about today I call the case of
- 2:00Speaker 1: Kathy Connolly and huge thanks to Bob Tibbets for providing
- 2:05Speaker 1: his research on this case and pointing it out to me.
- 2:08Speaker 1: It's a super fascinating, really unusual case, also interesting because
- 2:13Speaker 1: it took place quite some time ago nineteen forty. This
- 2:17Speaker 1: took place in nineteen forty in Meriden, England, and it's
- 2:24Speaker 1: a very complicated series of events. All of the cases
- 2:27Speaker 1: in this collection are, but this one especially and I
- 2:31Speaker 1: think you'll find it quite interesting. I know I shared it.
- 2:34Speaker 1: This very unusual and extensive case comes from researcher Bob Tibbitts,
- 2:39Speaker 1: so huge thanks to him for pointing this case out
- 2:42Speaker 1: to me and providing his notes on his investigation into it.
- 2:47Speaker 1: He did write about it in Q Fork's Syntonic magazine
- 2:51Speaker 1: many years ago and later in one of the volumes
- 2:54Speaker 1: of Haunted Skies. This is a single witness case. Again,
- 2:59Speaker 1: the primary witness's name is Kathy Connolly, who was for
- 3:04Speaker 1: many years a factory worker from Meriden, England. Bob Tibbetts
- 3:09Speaker 1: first met Kathy at a UFO meeting and she agreed
- 3:12Speaker 1: to share her story with him, and he describes her
- 3:15Speaker 1: as quote a genuine lady who firmly believed in what
- 3:19Speaker 1: she had experienced and was Back in the summer of
- 3:22Speaker 1: nineteen forty that Kathy, then age eighteen, decided to take
- 3:27Speaker 1: a walk down a country lane in Meriden. This is
- 3:30Speaker 1: near Coventry, and, as Kathy says in her own words,
- 3:34Speaker 1: by sheer accident, I came across a metal dome shaped structure,
- 3:38Speaker 1: which I took then to be a permanent building. Now
- 3:42Speaker 1: she did see several tall men who appeared to be
- 3:45Speaker 1: working on this structure. As she says, all the men
- 3:48Speaker 1: were wearing one piece garments, they had unusually high foreheads,
- 3:53Speaker 1: and their skin seemed to be tanned. This was unusual
- 3:57Speaker 1: because during the war people tended to be paced faced.
- 4:01Speaker 1: There was definitely something different about the eyes. The structure
- 4:05Speaker 1: appeared to be quite strong, that is, solid, giving off
- 4:08Speaker 1: a gray blue light, so a lot of strange things
- 4:12Speaker 1: going on here, which puzzled her. She didn't notice little
- 4:16Speaker 1: chimney like structures next to the craft, so as she's
- 4:19Speaker 1: walking by, she did smile at one of the men, who,
- 4:23Speaker 1: after a few moments, did smile back and then seemed
- 4:26Speaker 1: to study her. She didn't think much of it at
- 4:29Speaker 1: the time until she returned on her walk and found
- 4:32Speaker 1: that this structure was gone. So this was confusing, but
- 4:36Speaker 1: again it was a brief encounter. She realized then that
- 4:40Speaker 1: must have been a craft of some kind. But little
- 4:43Speaker 1: did she know this was just the beginning of what
- 4:45Speaker 1: would be a very complicated series of events, because it
- 4:50Speaker 1: was a few months later, while working at the Reynolds
- 4:53Speaker 1: Chain Company in Coventry, she was in the machine room
- 4:56Speaker 1: when she noticed a man with unusually clean alls, and
- 5:01Speaker 1: she immediately recognized him as one of the men she
- 5:03Speaker 1: had seen months earlier in Meriden standing next to that
- 5:08Speaker 1: strange craft. And this is when a pretty weird conversation followed,
- 5:12Speaker 1: because this man spoke to her and said, your war
- 5:17Speaker 1: is upsetting my world, and she replied, it's your world too,
- 5:22Speaker 1: and he said, no, I don't come from this world.
- 5:26Speaker 1: So just got weirder after this because he asked her
- 5:30Speaker 1: to take him to see the King and Queen and
- 5:32Speaker 1: she told him she couldn't do that. He asked her
- 5:35Speaker 1: if she was color blind, and she said no. Apparently
- 5:39Speaker 1: she did have some color blindness. He asked her who
- 5:42Speaker 1: he should contact then, and she told him scientists. Leaders.
- 5:47Speaker 1: Now she would see him several times, and he asked
- 5:50Speaker 1: her several times if she would go with him, and
- 5:54Speaker 1: she told him no each time, and she didn't see
- 5:57Speaker 1: him again in the three years she worked there, but
- 6:00Speaker 1: she did often think of him afterwards. And then one
- 6:04Speaker 1: day a man showed up at her home and said
- 6:07Speaker 1: he was a messenger and started talking about meeting this
- 6:10Speaker 1: man she had seen at the factory. Now, Kathy's memory
- 6:14Speaker 1: of what happened next came back to her in bits
- 6:17Speaker 1: and pieces, so she apparently had some missing time and
- 6:21Speaker 1: amnesia associated with all this. But she started to recall
- 6:25Speaker 1: that she had been taken on board more than once
- 6:28Speaker 1: to this same craft that she apparently saw all those
- 6:34Speaker 1: months ago in nineteen forty, so her memories are pretty interesting.
- 6:39Speaker 1: She recalled being on board this craft, being physically examined
- 6:42Speaker 1: on a table. A strange humanoid told her, we only
- 6:46Speaker 1: want to see if you are pregnant, And this was,
- 6:50Speaker 1: of course not a normal looking guy. This humanoid had bluish,
- 6:54Speaker 1: unblemished skin, a kind of catlike face, she said, there
- 6:58Speaker 1: were no whites to his eyes, a long mouth, she said,
- 7:02Speaker 1: long flat, almost animal like ears. His clothes were unusual.
- 7:07Speaker 1: He wore a blue coverall. She saw other men like him,
- 7:11Speaker 1: also wearing either blue or brown coveralls, and she also
- 7:15Speaker 1: saw human like figures human except they were pretty tall,
- 7:19Speaker 1: some of them up to seven feet tall and had
- 7:22Speaker 1: very high foreheads and sort of oiled black hair is
- 7:27Speaker 1: what she recalled now. The man told her that the
- 7:30Speaker 1: human like beings could not leave the ship, but the
- 7:33Speaker 1: others could. And when Kathy told this blueskinned being that
- 7:38Speaker 1: there were plastic surgeons on earth who could change his
- 7:41Speaker 1: face if he wanted, he seemed to be pleased by
- 7:45Speaker 1: that answer. But she was then taken around the craft,
- 7:49Speaker 1: which she said, as many witnesses do, was well lit
- 7:52Speaker 1: but had no discernible light source. That's an important detail
- 7:57Speaker 1: because we hear this in modern day accounts. She said,
- 8:00Speaker 1: in one room she saw a wall filled with meters
- 8:03Speaker 1: or gages. Another had a table in the center which
- 8:07Speaker 1: slid right into the floor, again a familiar description. She said,
- 8:11Speaker 1: on one side of that room there was a screen
- 8:14Speaker 1: or a scanner of some kind, and looking through it,
- 8:17Speaker 1: she got a shock because she saw scenes of war
- 8:20Speaker 1: airplanes fighting each other below them in an ocean filled
- 8:24Speaker 1: with crowded ships. Kathy could actually hear the radio conversations
- 8:28Speaker 1: going on between the pilots inside these planes. This was
- 8:32Speaker 1: all moving and live, and the et told her several times,
- 8:37Speaker 1: this is your world, which Kathy denied. Now, at one point,
- 8:42Speaker 1: one of these planes approached the craft quite closely, apparently
- 8:45Speaker 1: to shoot it, but then she heard the pilot say
- 8:48Speaker 1: not to shoot, as they saw a woman on board
- 8:51Speaker 1: and then a child. The craft approached another plane at
- 8:55Speaker 1: one point, and according to Kathy, the crew of the
- 8:58Speaker 1: plane was close enough and looked straight at them, apparently
- 9:02Speaker 1: seeing her and others on board, and one of the
- 9:07Speaker 1: crew of this plane actually made the sign of a
- 9:10Speaker 1: cross over his chest. When this happened. One of the
- 9:14Speaker 1: crew members of the UFO asked Kathy if she knew
- 9:17Speaker 1: this man and why did he do that. She told
- 9:20Speaker 1: him no, she did not know the man, but that
- 9:22Speaker 1: the man was probably praying for her. Now, the next
- 9:26Speaker 1: thing she knew. Still looking out this screen, she saw
- 9:30Speaker 1: New York. She saw the Statue of Liberty, She saw
- 9:33Speaker 1: them flying over a New York street, and lots of
- 9:36Speaker 1: news vendors selling papers. At some point she was taken
- 9:40Speaker 1: into another room where she was asked all kinds of
- 9:43Speaker 1: questions about life on earth, about her own life, and
- 9:47Speaker 1: what her thoughts were about the difference between right and
- 9:50Speaker 1: wrong actions in her own behavior. They warned her about
- 9:55Speaker 1: the power of thought, particularly negative thoughts, and I she
- 10:00Speaker 1: saw a lot of stuff. This is all somewhat disconnected,
- 10:03Speaker 1: so this could be separate incidents. But at one point
- 10:06Speaker 1: she was shown a scene of a man on a
- 10:09Speaker 1: cross while people were throwing dirt and stones at him,
- 10:13Speaker 1: and again the ets said, this is your world. Kathy
- 10:18Speaker 1: denied it and said this was the past, and the
- 10:22Speaker 1: ET said are they any different to that where you
- 10:25Speaker 1: come from? So they were apparently warning her or informing
- 10:31Speaker 1: her about how savage the human race is, how unevolved spiritually.
- 10:37Speaker 1: But Kathy was very much impressed by this encounter, she
- 10:41Speaker 1: said the ETS were very friendly. As she says, they
- 10:45Speaker 1: are very kind and patient, and I always felt at
- 10:48Speaker 1: complete ease with them. The older members of the crew
- 10:52Speaker 1: told me that it would do me no good to
- 10:54Speaker 1: tell of my encounters, as it would be of no
- 10:57Speaker 1: benefit to me personally. I was told that in order
- 11:01Speaker 1: to have success in making contact, a great number of
- 11:04Speaker 1: people had to believe that it is true and can
- 11:07Speaker 1: be done. One of the crew members claimed to be
- 11:10Speaker 1: a member of the quote Wildlife Preservation Society, So I
- 11:14Speaker 1: was half jokingly told by wildlife they meant our human race,
- 11:19Speaker 1: but they very much wanted to help mankind. So yeah.
- 11:24Speaker 1: Kathy believed she was taken on board a number of
- 11:27Speaker 1: times and they showed her many things, far too much
- 11:31Speaker 1: to talk about here in this little video, but at
- 11:35Speaker 1: one point she did see a thick, dark book with
- 11:38Speaker 1: what looked like Shorthand or Chinese type writing. She says
- 11:42Speaker 1: they took her into the past, into her childhood a
- 11:45Speaker 1: number of times. Kathy was apparently partly color blind and
- 11:49Speaker 1: had trouble reading street lights, which caused some problems crossing
- 11:53Speaker 1: the street, and the ETS apparently cured her of this condition.
- 11:58Speaker 1: In another instance of dream high strangeness. This is so weird,
- 12:02Speaker 1: she says. The ETS dropped her off on a road
- 12:06Speaker 1: in this country which turned out to be she believes, Rhodesia,
- 12:10Speaker 1: and told her to get on a particular bus, and
- 12:14Speaker 1: when she did, she discovered that all the people on
- 12:16Speaker 1: this bus were black, and her being a white person,
- 12:20Speaker 1: they were unhappy that she had boarded the bus and
- 12:24Speaker 1: she had trouble getting a seat. Now, this appears to
- 12:27Speaker 1: be the sort of demonstration to see if she tolerated racism,
- 12:31Speaker 1: which she didn't because she was taken off the bus.
- 12:35Speaker 1: The people on the bus now were very friendly and
- 12:39Speaker 1: the ETS scooped her back up. Very strange, but she
- 12:43Speaker 1: was taking to the other events from her past. Again,
- 12:46Speaker 1: her memories are somewhat scattered and incomplete at this point.
- 12:50Speaker 1: She did provide a long handwritten letter to Bob Tibbitts
- 12:55Speaker 1: and other researchers have looked into her case and found
- 12:58Speaker 1: her to be sincere in hones. So it is a
- 13:01Speaker 1: bizarre case that does raise more questions than it answers,
- 13:05Speaker 1: but again shows many of the features we see in
- 13:08Speaker 1: modern day accounts. So you can see there's a lot
- 13:11Speaker 1: to unpack in this case of Kathy Connolly. But what
- 13:16Speaker 1: an unusual and amazing case. She had such extensive interactions
- 13:23Speaker 1: with these ets. Some of the things she does describe
- 13:27Speaker 1: are certainly reflective of modern day accounts, but some are
- 13:32Speaker 1: absolutely unusual. Going on this bus ride and having what
- 13:36Speaker 1: appeared to be a lesson involving the discrimination. Perhaps she
- 13:43Speaker 1: apparently had a healing of color blindness. I found that
- 13:46Speaker 1: super fascinating. A lot of really interesting elements to that case.
- 13:53Speaker 1: And now we move to the next case, which is
- 13:55Speaker 1: so unusual and it's really interesting. I've never heard of
- 14:00Speaker 1: this case before. This was also provided to me by
- 14:04Speaker 1: a listener, so thanks to you know who. I call
- 14:08Speaker 1: this one the case of Arnie Harder Jorgensen, and this
- 14:13Speaker 1: is a gentleman from Denmark who had a very very
- 14:16Speaker 1: interesting encounter with a landed UFO and humanoids and missing
- 14:21Speaker 1: time as well. This is in Vaklev, Denmark. It occurred
- 14:26Speaker 1: in August of nineteen fifty six, and I have to
- 14:30Speaker 1: say there are elements in this case that I have
- 14:33Speaker 1: never heard before. And as with every case in this collection,
- 14:36Speaker 1: it's not just one event. He had a series of encounters.
- 14:40Speaker 1: But this first one is a real amazing and extensive encounter.
- 14:46Speaker 1: This very interesting case is pretty much a single witness case,
- 14:52Speaker 1: with the witness's name being Arnie Harder Jorgensen. He was
- 14:57Speaker 1: born in nineteen forty six and as he grew up
- 14:59Speaker 1: he worked in various jobs, including as a cook in
- 15:03Speaker 1: the military. He later became a lieutenant and after his
- 15:06Speaker 1: military service, worked as a polster worker. But it was
- 15:10Speaker 1: his encounter at age ten, one evening in August nineteen
- 15:15Speaker 1: fifty six that changed everything. He was playing Cowboys and
- 15:19Speaker 1: Indians with some of the other kids in his hometown
- 15:23Speaker 1: of Vaklev, Denmark, and all the kids had made their
- 15:27Speaker 1: own little private hideout, and Arnie wasn't his when he
- 15:31Speaker 1: heard strange, foreign sounding voices coming from the garden next door,
- 15:36Speaker 1: where there were a bunch of berry bushes. He said,
- 15:39Speaker 1: the language sounded quite strange, kind of like Japanese or Korean,
- 15:44Speaker 1: appeared to be male voices. He could hear them laughing,
- 15:48Speaker 1: so he was curious and he crept forward. He had
- 15:51Speaker 1: a little air pistol in his hand which worked. This
- 15:55Speaker 1: isn't exactly what we would call a toy gun, but
- 15:58Speaker 1: he was hiding behind a bush and peeked out and
- 16:01Speaker 1: he was shocked to see three really short humanoids about
- 16:06Speaker 1: four feet tall, and they were eating berries off the bush.
- 16:11Speaker 1: As he says, they had huge heads in relation to
- 16:15Speaker 1: their bodies. I was then a head taller than them.
- 16:19Speaker 1: The mouth was a small crack three to four centimeters
- 16:22Speaker 1: wide with two small holes and a small bulge with
- 16:26Speaker 1: a small hole for the nose. The body was slender,
- 16:30Speaker 1: with long, thin arms, each with a hand with five fingers.
- 16:35Speaker 1: They had thin legs with large, clumsy shoes that were
- 16:38Speaker 1: almost boots. So he says that each of them were
- 16:42Speaker 1: wearing skin tight featureless jumpsuits. There was no buttons, no zippers,
- 16:48Speaker 1: nothing like that, and yeah, really really weird heavy footwear.
- 16:54Speaker 1: Their eyes were striking, he said, they were a vivid
- 16:56Speaker 1: violet color, and he had the distinct impression that these
- 17:00Speaker 1: were sort of plastic goggles or part of their suit.
- 17:05Speaker 1: He said all of them looked pretty much identical, and again,
- 17:08Speaker 1: judging from their voices, were all males. And it was
- 17:12Speaker 1: also amazed to hear them apparently farting, and it actually
- 17:16Speaker 1: smell the stench of it, what she said was real bad,
- 17:19Speaker 1: suffocating almost now. Suddenly they turned and seemed to notice
- 17:24Speaker 1: that Arnie was looking right at them. They immediately tossed
- 17:29Speaker 1: away the berries began speaking very loudly in their strange language,
- 17:33Speaker 1: and it sounded to Arnie like one of them was
- 17:36Speaker 1: ordering the others around. Now this freaked Arnie out. He
- 17:40Speaker 1: turned and ran, or at least he tried to. As
- 17:44Speaker 1: Arnie says in his own words, Suddenly I felt myself
- 17:47Speaker 1: being slowed down and pulled back. There was something that
- 17:51Speaker 1: just controlled me. I was aware that one of them
- 17:54Speaker 1: was right behind me, as I could distinctly hear him breathing.
- 17:58Speaker 1: It sounded like a dying asthmatic. I reached down to
- 18:02Speaker 1: the shelter, but could not slip into it. A mysterious
- 18:06Speaker 1: force ensured that I stood still in front of the shelter,
- 18:10Speaker 1: unable to do anything, and now it spun around to
- 18:13Speaker 1: face him. I then stood in front of their commander
- 18:16Speaker 1: at a distance of two meters, and stood straight like
- 18:20Speaker 1: another soldier. So at this point the other two humanoids
- 18:25Speaker 1: ran up. The one in front of Arnie ordered them away.
- 18:29Speaker 1: Arnie was amazed to see how strangely they walked, and
- 18:33Speaker 1: he had the impression that their big, blocky shoes were
- 18:36Speaker 1: so large because they affected gravity in some way, kind
- 18:40Speaker 1: of like they were mechanical shoes. Now, the main eat
- 18:44Speaker 1: in front of him began to examine Ernie up and
- 18:47Speaker 1: down and paid special attention to his little air pistol.
- 18:52Speaker 1: Ronie had the distinct impression that this guy could see
- 18:55Speaker 1: everything inside him, almost as if he was X raying him,
- 18:59Speaker 1: or even memorizing or photographing him. As Arne says, it
- 19:03Speaker 1: all felt very strange, but I was calm and safe
- 19:06Speaker 1: in his power. So after a few moments he's really
- 19:11Speaker 1: not sure how long, the strange being just turned around
- 19:14Speaker 1: and left. Arney stood there in paralysis. And this is
- 19:20Speaker 1: when he realized that all the normal sounds around him
- 19:23Speaker 1: had gone completely silent. There was a lot of animals
- 19:27Speaker 1: around there, he couldn't hear any of them. He couldn't
- 19:29Speaker 1: hear any of the cats, the geese, the ducks, chickens,
- 19:32Speaker 1: and pigs and other animals in the area, and he
- 19:36Speaker 1: started shivering in the cold. Still he couldn't move. Then
- 19:40Speaker 1: suddenly he was amazed to see a silver metallic craft
- 19:44Speaker 1: rise up from behind a nearby hell where there was
- 19:47Speaker 1: a large gravel pit. This craft was moving at a
- 19:51Speaker 1: thirty degree angle up into the sky, so that it
- 19:54Speaker 1: wasn't very big, about fifteen feet wide maybe six feet high.
- 20:00Speaker 1: As it started off, his paralysis immediately lifted, and he
- 20:04Speaker 1: now realized it was twilight. So Arnie returned to the
- 20:07Speaker 1: farmhouse where they had all been playing. All the other
- 20:11Speaker 1: kids asked where had he been, so he was apparently missing,
- 20:15Speaker 1: and Arnie was very forthright. He told them I was
- 20:18Speaker 1: with three little gray Martians. So this experience left Arnie
- 20:24Speaker 1: absolutely amazed. He knew it wasn't his imagination, and he
- 20:28Speaker 1: got confirmation of that the next day when he tried
- 20:31Speaker 1: to shoot his air pistol and it fell completely to pieces,
- 20:35Speaker 1: So he believes the ets did something to it because
- 20:38Speaker 1: this was brand new pretty much. So it was dark
- 20:42Speaker 1: at this point everyone had to go home, But the
- 20:45Speaker 1: next day Arnie convinced his friends to go to the
- 20:48Speaker 1: gravel pit where he had seen this UFO rise up from.
- 20:51Speaker 1: He was too afraid to go there alone, so they agreed,
- 20:55Speaker 1: and when they got there they found something very interesting.
- 20:59Speaker 1: Four equidistant holes in the ground, deep holes about two
- 21:04Speaker 1: feet deep a half feet wide, and they were conical
- 21:07Speaker 1: in shape, with the point being at the bottom. They
- 21:11Speaker 1: were about four or five feet apart and Arnie believed
- 21:16Speaker 1: that they were caused by the landing feet from the craft.
- 21:20Speaker 1: They also did find several lumps of soft, black tar
- 21:23Speaker 1: like material. They did not save any of it. Unfortunately,
- 21:28Speaker 1: they did find some other things. They found that a
- 21:31Speaker 1: flower stand from one of the neighbors had been moved
- 21:34Speaker 1: and was now filled with berries, and not only that,
- 21:37Speaker 1: other bits of sticks and things which must have been
- 21:42Speaker 1: done by the ETS because nobody laid claim to doing it,
- 21:47Speaker 1: and there was other bits of evidence. Arnie learned that
- 21:50Speaker 1: three chickens were mysteriously missing from the neighbor's coop, which
- 21:54Speaker 1: was totally secured that should not be able to happen.
- 21:57Speaker 1: Nobody could explain that, and that was pretty much the
- 22:01Speaker 1: extent of it. Arnie never did see the Ets after that, however.
- 22:06Speaker 1: Forty six years later, in the summer of nineteen ninety nine,
- 22:10Speaker 1: Arnie and a group of people were celebrating the opening
- 22:13Speaker 1: of a new restaurant at NIEGANSV eight in the center
- 22:19Speaker 1: of Khalandborg, Denmark. Fireworks were being launched as part of
- 22:24Speaker 1: the celebration, and Arnie was watching these fireworks when he
- 22:27Speaker 1: saw an object flying about one hundred and eighty feet
- 22:30Speaker 1: overhead and one hundred and eighty feet away. It was
- 22:33Speaker 1: moving slowly about eighteen miles per hour twenty. He said.
- 22:37Speaker 1: It was shiny, metallic and appeared to be oval shaped,
- 22:41Speaker 1: about thirty feet long, and had a weird, glowing orange
- 22:45Speaker 1: yellow section part way along its perimeter. Now, Arnie was
- 22:50Speaker 1: only one of at least one hundred witnesses, and in fact,
- 22:53Speaker 1: the sighting was published in the local newspaper, but later
- 22:57Speaker 1: authorities said that the object was nothing more than a
- 22:59Speaker 1: way other balloon, which Arnie calls quote a bad lie.
- 23:05Speaker 1: Now that's just one sighting. It wasn't long after that
- 23:09Speaker 1: that he had another. Six years later, August two thousand
- 23:12Speaker 1: and five, Arnie was attending a rock concert at the
- 23:15Speaker 1: Old Stadium near Gisselore, Denmark, and part of this concert
- 23:20Speaker 1: included a laser show. And it was during this laser
- 23:24Speaker 1: show that something weird happened. As Arnie says, I suddenly
- 23:29Speaker 1: felt like I was being watched, But I didn't immediately
- 23:33Speaker 1: know by whom. None of the bystanders showed any interest
- 23:37Speaker 1: in me that could make me feel watched, but I
- 23:40Speaker 1: still felt it. Why, I do not know. Then I
- 23:43Speaker 1: looked up into the sky and saw an orange and
- 23:46Speaker 1: round object. I forgot for a moment all the music
- 23:50Speaker 1: and the laser show and kept my eyes on the object.
- 23:54Speaker 1: It was about a kilometer up and was the size
- 23:57Speaker 1: of a penny held in an outstretched arm. When seen
- 24:00Speaker 1: from the ground, I shouted to the people closest to
- 24:04Speaker 1: me that there was a flying saucer in the sky,
- 24:06Speaker 1: but they couldn't hear me over the music, so they
- 24:09Speaker 1: didn't respond. I fixed my gaze on the object. Suddenly
- 24:13Speaker 1: it moved further down towards the square. I would estimate
- 24:17Speaker 1: that it came down to a height of about six
- 24:19Speaker 1: hundred meters, which is about eighteen hundred nineteen hundred feet
- 24:24Speaker 1: now it arne continues. Seen from the ground, it was
- 24:27Speaker 1: now the size of a five crone, which is a
- 24:30Speaker 1: large coin held in an outstretched arm. It was perfectly circular,
- 24:35Speaker 1: but with a flat bottom. The orange light had a
- 24:38Speaker 1: constant brightness across the disk and was a pleasant orange
- 24:42Speaker 1: color when it was furthest down. I'd been watching it
- 24:46Speaker 1: for approximately ten seconds. Then it slowly rose up, and
- 24:49Speaker 1: finally it was out of my field of vision. So
- 24:54Speaker 1: that's interesting. These two sightings, one which was apparently prompted
- 24:57Speaker 1: by fireworks, the other by a lazy quite a few
- 25:01Speaker 1: cases like that. Now it's entirely possible that this was
- 25:05Speaker 1: the same ets Arnie saw as a kid, because they
- 25:09Speaker 1: did appear to be showing themselves intentionally, But of course
- 25:13Speaker 1: Arnie doesn't know for sure, and that turned out to
- 25:15Speaker 1: be his last up all experience. I think you'll agree
- 25:19Speaker 1: that's a really compelling case. The fact that there were
- 25:23Speaker 1: landing traces, other types of evidence in terms of the
- 25:29Speaker 1: missing chickens and the berries and fruit and such being
- 25:34Speaker 1: moved around in a way that nobody else claimed to
- 25:37Speaker 1: be doing. It apparently was the ets. But the description
- 25:41Speaker 1: of the ets as well, everything from their eyes down
- 25:46Speaker 1: to their shoes head to toe, really interesting. Though in
- 25:50Speaker 1: many ways probably are typical grays. But what an interesting case,
- 25:56Speaker 1: especially you know, with his little toy pistol. But that
- 26:01Speaker 1: also I found super fascinating. There's all these cases I
- 26:06Speaker 1: think provide another piece of the puzzle to what's going
- 26:09Speaker 1: on here, And that's a case that certainly deserves to
- 26:12Speaker 1: be more well known, which is why I wanted to
- 26:15Speaker 1: include it. So now we move on to the next case,
- 26:20Speaker 1: which actually is pretty well known in Brazil. It's considered
- 26:24Speaker 1: one of Brazil's best documented on board experiences. So you
- 26:29Speaker 1: may have heard of it, I'm not sure, but it's
- 26:32Speaker 1: got some very fascinating, absolutely unique elements to it that
- 26:37Speaker 1: I've never heard before. I call this one the case
- 26:40Speaker 1: of Omolson Ptero. That's, of course the witness's name. This
- 26:46Speaker 1: involves a series of encounters, one major event which took
- 26:50Speaker 1: place on May twenty second, nineteen seventy three, with a
- 26:54Speaker 1: follow up encounter one year later April twenty sixth, nineteen
- 26:58Speaker 1: seventy four. This took place in the town of Catan
- 27:03Speaker 1: Duva in Brazil. Yeah, it's an extremely well authenticated case,
- 27:09Speaker 1: some good physical evidence, a lot of corroborating witnesses, and
- 27:14Speaker 1: in some ways is very much echoing the case of
- 27:18Speaker 1: Travis Walton, and that the witness was missing as we
- 27:22Speaker 1: shall see, for a period of days. Missing time is
- 27:27Speaker 1: usually an hour or two at most, not in this case.
- 27:31Speaker 1: Now again, this case is considered one of the most
- 27:35Speaker 1: famous and well authenticated on board UFO experiences in Brazilian history,
- 27:40Speaker 1: and it was investigated in depth by numerous researchers such
- 27:44Speaker 1: as doctor Walter K. Buehler and Irene Granchi and others,
- 27:49Speaker 1: and in fact says Irene Granchi, I met Onoson personally
- 27:54Speaker 1: receiving the best possible impression of him, an impression of
- 27:58Speaker 1: honesty that he transmits to everyone. Onolson Potero's encounters, there's
- 28:04Speaker 1: two main events, and the whole ordeal really began on
- 28:09Speaker 1: May twenty seconds, nineteen seventy three, when Onnolson, who was
- 28:13Speaker 1: then a forty year old salesman, was driving from ita
- 28:16Speaker 1: Hooba to his home in Cananduva. This is in sau Palo, Brazil,
- 28:21Speaker 1: and he picked up a hitchhiker. Was around eleven pm
- 28:25Speaker 1: again on May twenty second, nineteen seventy three, when he
- 28:29Speaker 1: came upon a car parked alongside the road and there
- 28:32Speaker 1: was this young blond man standing there. So he got
- 28:36Speaker 1: out to help, and he noted that this young man
- 28:38Speaker 1: had large, sunken blue eyes. He was wearing a dark suit,
- 28:43Speaker 1: and according to Onolson, the man's eyes were really peculiar.
- 28:47Speaker 1: They were abnormally large and seemed to stare right through him.
- 28:51Speaker 1: He said, this guy had an oval face, a small
- 28:54Speaker 1: nose and mouth, broad shoulders, a muscular body, so pretty
- 28:59Speaker 1: much a normal look guy. So he offered this man
- 29:03Speaker 1: a ride. The man accepted the ride, introduced himself as Alex,
- 29:08Speaker 1: and they talked for a while, with Alex asking most
- 29:11Speaker 1: of the questions about Onnolson's personal life and this strange
- 29:17Speaker 1: Hdgehiker demonstrated an unusually good memory because at the beginning
- 29:21Speaker 1: of their conversation, Onnolson had mentioned his specific address, and
- 29:27Speaker 1: then an hour or so later, just before dropping Alex off,
- 29:33Speaker 1: the man told Onnolson quote, one of these days, I'm
- 29:38Speaker 1: going to pay you a visit at your house, and
- 29:41Speaker 1: then named the guy's address, repeating it exactly. Another weird thing.
- 29:46Speaker 1: The location where Alex requested to be let out was remote.
- 29:50Speaker 1: There was nothing around there, so Alex explained that he
- 29:53Speaker 1: had a car that was quote not from here, okay.
- 29:59Speaker 1: So Olnilson left Alex and continued on his drive. It
- 30:04Speaker 1: wasn't long after he had dropped this guy off that
- 30:07Speaker 1: he saw what looked like the same car Alex had
- 30:09Speaker 1: been standing next to when he picked him up, driving
- 30:12Speaker 1: in the opposite direction. He didn't see the driver, so
- 30:16Speaker 1: can't be sure, but at any rate, it was now
- 30:19Speaker 1: three a m. And Omolson was on State Highway three
- 30:23Speaker 1: two one, the Washington Lewis Highway, near kilometer seven and
- 30:27Speaker 1: was just a few miles from his home. It was raining.
- 30:30Speaker 1: Olson was listening to the radio when suddenly it was
- 30:34Speaker 1: overcome by increasing static. At the same time, his car,
- 30:39Speaker 1: a Chevy Opalla, began to lose power, and soon his
- 30:44Speaker 1: car slowed to a crawl. And then a bright blue
- 30:47Speaker 1: beam of light shone down into his car, shown on
- 30:51Speaker 1: the dashboard on Onolson himself shone on his briefcase, at
- 30:56Speaker 1: which point he was shocked to see it looked almost
- 30:58Speaker 1: as if his briefcase some parts of the car were transparent,
- 31:03Speaker 1: kind of like X rays. He did think momentarily that
- 31:06Speaker 1: there might be a truck behind him, but no truck
- 31:09Speaker 1: went by, and the light was becoming brighter. In fact,
- 31:12Speaker 1: he could start to feel a real strong heat. His
- 31:15Speaker 1: car just went completely dead at this point, headlights, radio,
- 31:19Speaker 1: the entire electrical system, and the heat was getting suffocating.
- 31:24Speaker 1: So he got out, and the heat was worse, and
- 31:27Speaker 1: looking up he saw an oval shaped craft hovering about
- 31:31Speaker 1: sixty feet up and sixty feet away. He thought briefly
- 31:35Speaker 1: it might be a helicopter, but instantly discarded this thought
- 31:39Speaker 1: as the object was clearly saucer shaped. He said, like
- 31:42Speaker 1: two water basins placed end to end. It was about
- 31:46Speaker 1: thirty feet wide twenty feet high, and it was making
- 31:49Speaker 1: a low buzzing noise, and this beam of light coming
- 31:53Speaker 1: from it was lighting up the area around him like daylight.
- 31:58Speaker 1: And then he watches a two tube of some kind
- 32:01Speaker 1: extended from the bottom of the object, and he thought,
- 32:05Speaker 1: you know, it's coming to get me. He tried to run,
- 32:08Speaker 1: but felt rooted to the spot. Now, looking behind him,
- 32:13Speaker 1: he was shocked to see that the beam of light
- 32:15Speaker 1: coming from the craft onto his car had turned his
- 32:18Speaker 1: car transparent like glass. At the same time, the heat
- 32:23Speaker 1: from this beam felt like it was burning his skin.
- 32:27Speaker 1: He finally managed to break free and run a short
- 32:30Speaker 1: distance because he knew this was a flying saucer at
- 32:34Speaker 1: this point and really felt like they were trying to
- 32:36Speaker 1: take him. But he still felt this strange force pulling
- 32:39Speaker 1: on him. The car still looked totally transparent. He wondered
- 32:43Speaker 1: if it was actually melting. He was mad because he
- 32:46Speaker 1: had only a few car payments left before he paid
- 32:50Speaker 1: off his car. That was his last thought, and he
- 32:53Speaker 1: promptly fainted and undetermined. But apparently a short time later,
- 32:58Speaker 1: two men we now know to be Waldomiro Poroso se
- 33:03Speaker 1: and Celso a Parisido Pio. They were driving along the
- 33:08Speaker 1: same road and came upon Onnolson's car. The headlights were on,
- 33:13Speaker 1: the driver's door was open. Onnolson's briefcase and documents were
- 33:18Speaker 1: scattered Onnolson himself lay face down on the ground in
- 33:23Speaker 1: a puddle of water. Now the men thought that he
- 33:26Speaker 1: was dead. They thought there had been an accident, or
- 33:29Speaker 1: perhaps that he had been robbed and murdered, so they
- 33:32Speaker 1: immediately raced to call the police. Officer Clovis Quiros showed
- 33:38Speaker 1: up and went to examine Onnolson, also thinking that he
- 33:42Speaker 1: was looking at a corpse, and was shocked when the
- 33:45Speaker 1: witness suddenly jumped up and began to fight the officer, shouting,
- 33:49Speaker 1: they're after me, They're after me. So the officer informed him, no,
- 33:53Speaker 1: this is the police. You're okay. Other weird things the
- 33:58Speaker 1: briefcase was still locked, so apparently nobody had opened it,
- 34:02Speaker 1: and yet all these documents were spread around, none were missing,
- 34:07Speaker 1: and these included some checks, so some pretty valuable stuff there.
- 34:11Speaker 1: Another strange thing is that Onnilson's torso his chest and
- 34:15Speaker 1: back were dry, his pants were wet. I mean this
- 34:20Speaker 1: was raining at the time, so this was curious, so
- 34:24Speaker 1: Onnilson was rushed to the Padre Albino hospital and examined
- 34:28Speaker 1: for one day and then sent home. There were other
- 34:32Speaker 1: bizarre effects. Immediately after this encounter. Onnolson, who had brown hair,
- 34:37Speaker 1: his hair was now completely black. This was confirmed by
- 34:41Speaker 1: his wife. It took only about four days to revert
- 34:45Speaker 1: to its original brown color. Also interesting is that Onnilson
- 34:51Speaker 1: says he suffered from intense itching all over his body,
- 34:55Speaker 1: and it was a few days after the encounter that green,
- 34:58Speaker 1: yellow bruise like spots appeared on its chest in abdomen.
- 35:02Speaker 1: They didn't cause him any pain, but after about two
- 35:05Speaker 1: weeks they spread covering his entire body, so he returned
- 35:09Speaker 1: to the hospital. Doctor Elias Aziz Shadiak, who had examined
- 35:15Speaker 1: him immediately after the encounter and later now when these
- 35:19Speaker 1: spots were spreading all over him, was really amazed by
- 35:23Speaker 1: what he had seen, and he later told reporters, I
- 35:26Speaker 1: am absolutely sure that the man is telling the truth.
- 35:30Speaker 1: His statements are fully coherent and he presents no symptoms
- 35:34Speaker 1: of mental instability. He was burned and the burns are
- 35:38Speaker 1: no ordinary burns. They look as though they were caused
- 35:41Speaker 1: by some strange rays. But again caused no pain and
- 35:46Speaker 1: thankfully they did heal. Later Onoson was placed under hypnosis
- 35:52Speaker 1: and it wasn't super successful in terms of recovering any memories.
- 35:56Speaker 1: He did talk about being taken inside the object and meeting,
- 36:00Speaker 1: quote a steel chested man. He said that there were
- 36:04Speaker 1: other figures inside this craft who wanted to talk to him,
- 36:07Speaker 1: but he really couldn't recall much else. However, his encounter
- 36:12Speaker 1: was widely publicized and it was soon discovered that there
- 36:14Speaker 1: were several other people in the area who had seen UFOs,
- 36:19Speaker 1: including a couple who said that they saw this weird
- 36:22Speaker 1: object with humanoids inside of it. So Onnlson didn't know
- 36:27Speaker 1: it at the time, of course, but he would later
- 36:30Speaker 1: have a much more dramatic and extensive encounter. It was
- 36:35Speaker 1: about one year later, on April twenty sixth, nineteen seventy four.
- 36:39Speaker 1: He was on a business trip driving between Guaranta and
- 36:43Speaker 1: Cantanduva was around eleven thirty pm when he noticed this
- 36:48Speaker 1: glowing blue object pacing his car. Almost immediately, his car
- 36:53Speaker 1: engine started to fail and looking outside, he could now
- 36:57Speaker 1: see that this object was apparently the same one he
- 37:00Speaker 1: had seen in his previous encounter and once again a
- 37:05Speaker 1: really weird effect. His car started to look like it
- 37:08Speaker 1: was transparent, so he jumped out of his car to
- 37:11Speaker 1: run away, and this is when a beam of light
- 37:14Speaker 1: came from the object and pulled him right up into
- 37:17Speaker 1: the craft. Onolson now found himself inside an oval room
- 37:22Speaker 1: and standing there was guess who, Alex, the hitchhiker he
- 37:26Speaker 1: had picked up last year. Alex was smiling and was
- 37:30Speaker 1: actually wearing the same clothes he had worn when Nildson
- 37:33Speaker 1: had given them a ride. So this man, Alex, put
- 37:38Speaker 1: his hand on Onnolson's shoulder and speaking in Portuguese, told
- 37:43Speaker 1: Nilton not to be afraid that nothing bad would happen
- 37:47Speaker 1: to him. According to Onoldson, the room was illuminated by
- 37:51Speaker 1: a bluish light. Alex instructed Onnolson to sit on a
- 37:56Speaker 1: sort of rubber looking chair in the room, which Wilson did.
- 38:00Speaker 1: He sat down. He was there for only a minute
- 38:03Speaker 1: or two when he passed out and then found himself
- 38:05Speaker 1: in another room. This room had strange lights on the walls.
- 38:09Speaker 1: There was lots of advanced equipment in there, which totally
- 38:12Speaker 1: surpassed his ability to understand or comprehend or even later
- 38:17Speaker 1: explain to people. Alex instructed Onnilson to undress what he did,
- 38:23Speaker 1: and then Onnilson was given different clothes to wear. He
- 38:28Speaker 1: said they looked like they were made of metallic fibers,
- 38:31Speaker 1: kind of like shiny nylon. He said, these clothes had
- 38:35Speaker 1: a rough exterior, but the interior was very soft on
- 38:39Speaker 1: his skin. So he was then strapped into a chair
- 38:43Speaker 1: of some kind. A helmet or visor of some kind
- 38:47Speaker 1: was placed over his head. This caused him some shortness
- 38:50Speaker 1: of breath for a moment, perhaps from fear, hard to say,
- 38:54Speaker 1: but once this helmet advisor was placed on his head,
- 38:58Speaker 1: he started to see unfamiliar scene a valley which kind
- 39:03Speaker 1: of looked to him like it was a small town
- 39:05Speaker 1: in Europe with tall steep roofs and lots of churches.
- 39:09Speaker 1: Olnilson also saw an egg shaped object emerging from the
- 39:13Speaker 1: ground in this area, and along with it was this
- 39:15Speaker 1: weird whitish cloud, and the ets tried to explain to
- 39:20Speaker 1: him that they were removing this dangerous substance from the earth.
- 39:25Speaker 1: So what that is is not known. Onilson says that
- 39:30Speaker 1: he was then physically examined. He saw lots of weird
- 39:34Speaker 1: things while on board this craft because at one point,
- 39:37Speaker 1: he says he saw what he believed to be his
- 39:40Speaker 1: twin or his double. He also saw another room where
- 39:44Speaker 1: there were several hooded figures moving them around on what
- 39:48Speaker 1: looked like gliding chairs. At some point he remembered being
- 39:52Speaker 1: placed in a container of some kind, And finally, after
- 39:57Speaker 1: an undetermined amount of all of this, he was released
- 40:01Speaker 1: from the craft using the same beam of light which
- 40:04Speaker 1: had taken him, and was placed gently on the ground.
- 40:08Speaker 1: So he watched the craft dart away and that was it.
- 40:15Speaker 1: But meanwhile, Olmolston's family had become concerned when he failed
- 40:19Speaker 1: to return home. They began searching for him. They quickly
- 40:23Speaker 1: did find his vehicle, but there was no sign of Omilsson,
- 40:27Speaker 1: and they couldn't find him anywhere. For the next six days,
- 40:31Speaker 1: this search continued, they could not find him. Finally, to
- 40:36Speaker 1: their shock and confusion, almoston called them because he was
- 40:40Speaker 1: found wandering and disoriented on a hill outside of the
- 40:44Speaker 1: city of Cola Tina. This is an Espirito Santo, which
- 40:49Speaker 1: is about seven hundred and forty five miles from where
- 40:52Speaker 1: he was taken. Olson himself as he woke up with
- 40:55Speaker 1: no idea that it was now May second, almost a
- 40:58Speaker 1: week after he had been taken. He does remember seeing
- 41:01Speaker 1: this object dart away, but he was very confused, disoriented,
- 41:05Speaker 1: had some trouble seeing. In fact, for a moment he
- 41:08Speaker 1: thought he was on another planet, but thankfully there was
- 41:12Speaker 1: some rain falling which quickly brought him to full awareness,
- 41:16Speaker 1: and looking around, he saw that it was night. He
- 41:18Speaker 1: was on a steep hill that was very hard to
- 41:21Speaker 1: get to. He began shouting and was shortly later discovered
- 41:25Speaker 1: by a gentleman by the name of Caesar Minnelli, who
- 41:29Speaker 1: was actually the owner of the property where Onnolson was
- 41:33Speaker 1: found Onnilson explained what had happened to him, and he
- 41:38Speaker 1: was taken to the police, and by this point word
- 41:41Speaker 1: had spread. Newspaper reporters were eager to get his story,
- 41:45Speaker 1: but Olalston just wanted to call his family because by
- 41:48Speaker 1: this point they thought he was dead. So he was
- 41:52Speaker 1: taken home. He was besieged by reporters. He did share
- 41:55Speaker 1: his story. It appeared in many newspapers, and he said
- 42:00Speaker 1: something very interesting. He said since his experience a year earlier,
- 42:05Speaker 1: he had been followed by government agents, some of whom
- 42:08Speaker 1: warned him to stop talking about his experiences, but he didn't.
- 42:13Speaker 1: He ended up doing several more interviews and talked about
- 42:18Speaker 1: his experience publicly. So wow, I mean, how about that
- 42:22Speaker 1: case with the car apparently turning transparent. That was his
- 42:26Speaker 1: perception with his documents coming out of his briefcase in
- 42:29Speaker 1: that really unusual way. He coming back from his encounter
- 42:34Speaker 1: in a completely separate location, the things the ETS told him,
- 42:39Speaker 1: seeing what he perceived to be his twin on board
- 42:42Speaker 1: the craft. There are quite a few cases like that. Again,
- 42:46Speaker 1: some of these elements do turn up again and again
- 42:49Speaker 1: in accounts, but some are unique. In this case, Wow,
- 42:54Speaker 1: it's just so interesting to me. The most interesting aspect
- 42:58Speaker 1: was that he picked up this hitchhiker who turned out
- 43:01Speaker 1: to be an ET. As you may know, I did
- 43:04Speaker 1: a whole episode on extraterrestrial hitchhikers, and this was a
- 43:09Speaker 1: case that slipped under my radar. I would have included it,
- 43:12Speaker 1: but no, here's another one of an alien hitchhiker. That
- 43:16Speaker 1: alone is fascinating to me. So let's move to the
- 43:20Speaker 1: next case, and this one definitely deserves to be more
- 43:24Speaker 1: well known. I had heard about it, but I finally
- 43:28Speaker 1: decided to dive deeper into it, and I'm glad I
- 43:30Speaker 1: did because this is a pretty well authenticated case, particularly
- 43:35Speaker 1: considering what happened to the witness after his encounter. I
- 43:39Speaker 1: call this one the case of David Hamil. I think
- 43:43Speaker 1: I'm pronouncing that right, Hamel perhaps, But this took place
- 43:48Speaker 1: on October twelve, nineteen seventy five, in the rural area
- 43:54Speaker 1: in British Columbia called Maple Ridge. This, of course is
- 43:59Speaker 1: in Canada. I like this case. It's got multiple witnesses,
- 44:03Speaker 1: but to me, the most interesting thing is that the
- 44:07Speaker 1: ets had some very incredible information, as we shall see
- 44:12Speaker 1: to impart to this witness that would completely change the
- 44:16Speaker 1: course of his life. This case comes from pioneering Canadian
- 44:20Speaker 1: researcher Graham Conway and originally appeared in the Journal Canadian
- 44:26Speaker 1: UFO Report, but the case was also studied by Barry
- 44:31Speaker 1: Hendry and others. The primary witness is David Hammel, a carpenter,
- 44:38Speaker 1: and he lived with his wife Nora in a rural
- 44:41Speaker 1: home on West Luscoon Lake Road. This is in Maple Ridge, Canada,
- 44:47Speaker 1: a very sparsely populated forested area in the Lower Fraser
- 44:52Speaker 1: Valley but not too far from Vancouver. The Hammils and
- 44:58Speaker 1: a family friend on a October twelve nineteen seventy five.
- 45:02Speaker 1: We're watching the Walton's TV show when suddenly the screen
- 45:06Speaker 1: became all filled with static and snow, and to David's shock,
- 45:11Speaker 1: two human looking figures, one male and the other female
- 45:15Speaker 1: kind of Asian in appearance, with reddish skin, seemed to
- 45:19Speaker 1: emerge from the screen and they approached him. He said
- 45:23Speaker 1: that they were both wearing one piece suits. They walked
- 45:27Speaker 1: right up to him, touched his arm, and began to
- 45:30Speaker 1: speak with him telepathically, saying that they were going to
- 45:33Speaker 1: elevate him up into a spaceship which was now hovering
- 45:37Speaker 1: above his home. And David was astonished to immediately find
- 45:41Speaker 1: himself in a different location, presumably in this spacecraft. He
- 45:47Speaker 1: was in this weird room, which he says was about
- 45:49Speaker 1: thirty feet in diameter eighteen feet high, had windows all
- 45:54Speaker 1: around the edges. He saw smaller rooms about six y
- 45:58Speaker 1: four feet wide. In fact, he was given a quick
- 46:01Speaker 1: tour of the craft. He saw that these smaller rooms
- 46:04Speaker 1: contain drawers of some kind. He did see a third person,
- 46:08Speaker 1: a man with the beard. Now, these beings told him
- 46:12Speaker 1: that they were from another planet, which they called Claydon,
- 46:16Speaker 1: and they told him it was billions of miles from Earth.
- 46:19Speaker 1: These beings spoke to him extensively, answering many of his
- 46:23Speaker 1: questions and providing all kinds of information that he described
- 46:27Speaker 1: as highly technical and really deeply philosophical, much of which
- 46:32Speaker 1: was well beyond his ability to comprehend, at least at first.
- 46:37Speaker 1: But they did warn him about nuclear weapons and material
- 46:41Speaker 1: They told him that Canada should stop selling there can
- 46:45Speaker 1: do nuclear reactors. They also interestingly claimed responsibility for the
- 46:52Speaker 1: Pyramids in Egypt. So David was then taken for a
- 46:57Speaker 1: physical exam. He says they used a strange instrument which
- 47:01Speaker 1: displayed the interior of his body on a kind of screen. Next,
- 47:06Speaker 1: he was taken to a kind of laboratory type room
- 47:09Speaker 1: where they explained how they are able to purify water
- 47:13Speaker 1: for their craft. At one point, he asked them how
- 47:15Speaker 1: they slept, because he didn't see any beds, and they
- 47:18Speaker 1: said they didn't need any beds as they were able
- 47:20Speaker 1: to use a magnetic device which rendered their bodies weightless,
- 47:26Speaker 1: and that they slept while just floating comfortably in the air.
- 47:30Speaker 1: They also told him that they powered their craft with
- 47:33Speaker 1: sort of a free energy perpetual motion device, and that
- 47:37Speaker 1: they would in fact show him not only how it worked,
- 47:41Speaker 1: but give him step by steps instructions on how to
- 47:45Speaker 1: build it himself. So David estimates that this entire experience
- 47:51Speaker 1: lasted about fifteen minutes before he was returned to his home.
- 47:55Speaker 1: And it gets stranger because neither his wife, Nora, nor
- 47:59Speaker 1: their friend apparently noticed anything. So there was some speculation
- 48:03Speaker 1: among researchers about whether or not David was taken up
- 48:07Speaker 1: into the craft astrally hard to say for sure, it's
- 48:11Speaker 1: not clear, but over the next few days and weeks
- 48:15Speaker 1: more incredible and strange events occurred. David, who had no
- 48:20Speaker 1: college education, said the beings returned and began to instruct
- 48:25Speaker 1: him on how to build this free energy machine an
- 48:28Speaker 1: actual craft. Now he could see them plain a day,
- 48:32Speaker 1: but his wife couldn't see them, not at all. But
- 48:35Speaker 1: she did hear their footsteps. She could hear them walking
- 48:38Speaker 1: around the house. She saw doors opening and closing by themselves,
- 48:42Speaker 1: occasionally various objects moving, such as the blankets being lifted
- 48:46Speaker 1: off the bed and so forth, so it was clear
- 48:49Speaker 1: to her something was going on. But David could see them,
- 48:53Speaker 1: and these beings promised David that in the future they
- 48:57Speaker 1: would show themselves to Nora in physical f Meanwhile, they
- 49:02Speaker 1: were giving him step by step instructions on how to
- 49:05Speaker 1: build this alien motor, this alien craft. As David says,
- 49:10Speaker 1: they're in my body. I can't get away from them. Now,
- 49:15Speaker 1: David was not a rich guy. Lack of funds and
- 49:19Speaker 1: his lack of formal education were constant obstacles, but the
- 49:24Speaker 1: ETS continued to tell him how to move forward, step
- 49:28Speaker 1: by step, instructing him to buy certain materials and to
- 49:33Speaker 1: contact various people. In fact, David did reach out to
- 49:37Speaker 1: many very prestigious institutions trying to get information and assistance.
- 49:43Speaker 1: Most just brushed him off. A few did show some
- 49:47Speaker 1: interest and said to contact them should he be able
- 49:50Speaker 1: to build a working model of this craft. David did
- 49:54Speaker 1: try to get a government grant to do his research,
- 49:58Speaker 1: but this was declined. He was literally on a disability
- 50:01Speaker 1: income because he had previously been in the military, but
- 50:05Speaker 1: again not a wealthy guy. He did finally manage to
- 50:08Speaker 1: get a bank loan for about two thy five hundred
- 50:12Speaker 1: and spent his own money, and as time passed he
- 50:15Speaker 1: ended up investing more than six thousand dollars on this project. Now,
- 50:21Speaker 1: this engine was based on the principle apparently of counter
- 50:25Speaker 1: rotating magnetic rings with an off center pivot in the middle.
- 50:30Speaker 1: You can see it. He wrote many, many different plans
- 50:34Speaker 1: for all of this and built working models. In fact,
- 50:38Speaker 1: he once completed the engine and placed it in an
- 50:42Speaker 1: oil drum in his workshop and prepared to retire for
- 50:45Speaker 1: the evening. But as he was lying in bed, he
- 50:49Speaker 1: started to notice a red glow in his living room,
- 50:52Speaker 1: and jumping out of bed, running into the living room,
- 50:55Speaker 1: he saw that his machine, which he kept in a barn,
- 50:58Speaker 1: had caused the oil drum to become red hot, and
- 51:02Speaker 1: minutes later the machine exploded, hurtling metal fragments and the
- 51:06Speaker 1: magnetic components right through the roof of his workshop. So disappointed,
- 51:12Speaker 1: but not to be discouraged, David started over from the beginning.
- 51:18Speaker 1: He ended up traveling to California to buy more magnets.
- 51:22Speaker 1: He says he was led to certain bookstores to find
- 51:25Speaker 1: information he needed to build his machine. In certain books,
- 51:29Speaker 1: he says, sometimes he would receive information through a process
- 51:33Speaker 1: of automatic writing. But yeah, he created all kinds of
- 51:37Speaker 1: very detailed plans and apparently really did educate himself on
- 51:43Speaker 1: free energy. David did have his retractors, some engineers who
- 51:48Speaker 1: examined his ideas, said the machine would never work. However,
- 51:53Speaker 1: in other cases in the UFO field, many of them
- 51:56Speaker 1: echo the same ideas of counter rotating magnetic engines. Now,
- 52:03Speaker 1: at one point, the beings told David that they would
- 52:05Speaker 1: be leaving as they had achieved their primary objective of
- 52:08Speaker 1: teaching him, but that they would return. And then one day,
- 52:14Speaker 1: David says they did come back. They were driving this
- 52:17Speaker 1: weird car with weird license plates. But it was then
- 52:21Speaker 1: he said that they had the reddish skin, where asian
- 52:24Speaker 1: in appearance, he recognized them from his time on the craft,
- 52:29Speaker 1: and this time, as promised, they revealed themselves to his wife, Nora.
- 52:35Speaker 1: This kind of put David off a little bit because
- 52:37Speaker 1: they just wanted to talk to her, which they did.
- 52:41Speaker 1: Now Nora suffered from cerebral palsy and could not easily communicate.
- 52:46Speaker 1: But it was very strange because when the visitors approached her,
- 52:51Speaker 1: they held her hand and she was able to converse
- 52:54Speaker 1: normally with them. So after this brief visit they left again,
- 52:59Speaker 1: promised to return, and here the case seems to end. However,
- 53:06Speaker 1: even as late as two thousand and four, a reporter
- 53:10Speaker 1: by the name of Mark Bonokoski visited David Hammel in
- 53:15Speaker 1: his home and learned that David was in fact still
- 53:18Speaker 1: working on his engine. And he was kind of ordinary
- 53:23Speaker 1: and said, it will be done when it is done.
- 53:26Speaker 1: So what if I made it doesn't matter. The aliens
- 53:29Speaker 1: planted these drawings in my brain. They gave me all
- 53:33Speaker 1: the instructions I needed. It is now up to me
- 53:36Speaker 1: to make it work. The end of the world is
- 53:39Speaker 1: not far off, and we need some of us to survive,
- 53:42Speaker 1: otherwise all is lost. The survival of the human race
- 53:47Speaker 1: is at stake. That's what it's all about. It's about
- 53:50Speaker 1: the survival of our species. So those who have looked
- 53:55Speaker 1: into his case are actually really impressed. One lady by
- 53:59Speaker 1: the name of Gene Manning. She wrote a book called
- 54:03Speaker 1: The Granite Man and the Butterfly, which profiled his case
- 54:07Speaker 1: in detail, and she is an expert in free and
- 54:12Speaker 1: clean energy and she found his research to be very interesting.
- 54:17Speaker 1: Another gentleman, Robert Thomas, also wrote a book about David
- 54:23Speaker 1: Hamel's case. The books called the Word Made Manifest through
- 54:28Speaker 1: Sacred Geometry. So unfortunately, ultimately David Hamel was never able
- 54:35Speaker 1: to build a working flying saucer. At some point he
- 54:39Speaker 1: sold his property, leaving much of the equipment behind. The
- 54:43Speaker 1: property is currently owned by Ray Marshall, and there are
- 54:48Speaker 1: still bits and pieces of this flying saucer project on
- 54:53Speaker 1: the property, big rings of metal you can see where
- 54:56Speaker 1: he was flying, the magnets and all of this. So
- 55:00Speaker 1: a very interesting case, somewhat reminiscent of George van Tassel
- 55:04Speaker 1: and the integratron and many other cases in which people
- 55:08Speaker 1: were taught how to build energy free motors. I did
- 55:12Speaker 1: a whole episode on that, So this case is pretty
- 55:16Speaker 1: interesting in that regard. Such a shame that the witness
- 55:20Speaker 1: in that case didn't get to complete his invention this
- 55:25Speaker 1: ET motor or ET craft, But such a fascinating case
- 55:30Speaker 1: because there are a lot of cases where ets will
- 55:32Speaker 1: take people down to the engine room and explain in
- 55:35Speaker 1: detail how their craft are powered, how they fly, and
- 55:41Speaker 1: will provide in some cases details on how the witness
- 55:45Speaker 1: can build it themselves. One of my early episodes on
- 55:49Speaker 1: this channel profiled cases like these, and I think I
- 55:53Speaker 1: mentioned this one very briefly in passing, but I didn't
- 55:56Speaker 1: have all the information I found for this particular segment.
- 56:02Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean, this is an undeniable case there's
- 56:05Speaker 1: two books written about it, and it's clear that this
- 56:11Speaker 1: is an absolutely valid case, given that there are several
- 56:15Speaker 1: outside witnesses and that this gentleman did in fact make
- 56:20Speaker 1: some very interesting discoveries on how these craft are apparently powered.
- 56:27Speaker 1: So I think it's a case that definitely should be
- 56:31Speaker 1: more well known and super interesting and just really fits
- 56:39Speaker 1: the profile of what we see in so many different cases.
- 56:44Speaker 1: All right, moving on to the last and final case
- 56:49Speaker 1: of this collection. This is another very little known case
- 56:52Speaker 1: but has some really interesting and unique elements to it.
- 56:57Speaker 1: I've never heard this one of the episodes in this
- 57:01Speaker 1: case before. It's just interesting. I call this one the
- 57:06Speaker 1: case of Elizabeth Hess. Has occurred in November of nineteen
- 57:10Speaker 1: eighty nine in Manhattan, New York. So this is a downtown,
- 57:18Speaker 1: very urban area where this lady was had her encounter.
- 57:22Speaker 1: So some really interesting described ets, but it's what they
- 57:26Speaker 1: did that to me is the most fascinating. This case
- 57:30Speaker 1: first appeared in the winter nineteen ninety one issue of
- 57:33Speaker 1: UFO Universe magazine, published by Timothy Green Beckley, and was
- 57:38Speaker 1: investigated by Mark Landers and Jeanette Thompson of the Long
- 57:43Speaker 1: Island UFO Network. The main witness again is Elizabeth Hess.
- 57:49Speaker 1: This is a pseudonym. She was born in nineteen fifty four,
- 57:53Speaker 1: and it was one year around Christmas time nineteen sixty
- 57:56Speaker 1: seven nineteen sixty eight, Elizabeth, who was then thirteen or fourteen,
- 58:01Speaker 1: and her mother decided to go to a drug store
- 58:03Speaker 1: in Queens, New York to pick up a few items.
- 58:07Speaker 1: It was around seven to fifteen pm when they went,
- 58:10Speaker 1: but the next thing they both knew they were standing
- 58:13Speaker 1: in front of the store it was now closed and
- 58:16Speaker 1: looking at the time they saw it was eleven fifteen PM,
- 58:21Speaker 1: so they were missing like four hours. They did not
- 58:24Speaker 1: know what to make of this, especially back then, but
- 58:28Speaker 1: soon more answers will be forthcoming. Because it was many
- 58:32Speaker 1: years later in November of nineteen eighty nine, Elizabeth, now
- 58:37Speaker 1: thirty five, went to bed around two or three am
- 58:40Speaker 1: in her second story apartment on West thirty seventh Street
- 58:45Speaker 1: in Manhattan, New York, very densely populated area. Her husband
- 58:50Speaker 1: slept in a separate bedroom, and Elizabeth had just started
- 58:54Speaker 1: to fall asleep when suddenly the room filled with a
- 58:57Speaker 1: brilliant light, and opening her eyes, she was shocked to
- 59:01Speaker 1: see three or four short humanoids walk right through the
- 59:06Speaker 1: wall of her bedroom and stand by her bed. The beings,
- 59:11Speaker 1: she said, were about five feet tall, bald, with larger
- 59:15Speaker 1: than normal heads, but not super huge. Their skin, she said,
- 59:20Speaker 1: was a dark kind of blue gray black color. They
- 59:23Speaker 1: had very large, dark eyes with no visible pupils, wide
- 59:28Speaker 1: flat noses, a wide mouth. She said that very thick necks. Also,
- 59:34Speaker 1: their arms and legs were quite thick, had very large
- 59:37Speaker 1: hands with fat fingers, thick nails. They wore white coats,
- 59:43Speaker 1: kind of like trench coats, which went all the way
- 59:45Speaker 1: down to the floor, though she didn't notice that they
- 59:48Speaker 1: were barefoot, and they began to speak to her telepathically.
- 59:52Speaker 1: They told Elizabeth to rise out of bed and come
- 59:55Speaker 1: with them. Now, Elizabeth, who was sleeping without any clothes on,
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: asked them if she could get dressed. Et seemed to
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: be somewhat annoyed at this, but they did allow her
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: to quickly get dressed. She put on jeans and a
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: ski jacket and then walked barefoot with them downstairs and
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: onto the street. And boy, this gets weird because on
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: the street she was astonished to see about thirty or
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: forty other people, mostly women, all about her age, and
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: they were all walking in kind of a trance right
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: down the middle of West thirty seventh Street, heading towards
- 1:00:32Speaker 1: the river. She noticed that nobody else seemed to be
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: paying any attention to each other or to her, and
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: she was aware, but she said, it was as if
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: a force was drawing her towards a building by the river.
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: She didn't resist and just walked along with this crowd
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: of people. She was amazed to see that there was
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: no street traffic, nor were there any pedestrians other than
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: those who were with her. The whole environment was eerily silent.
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: This is just about impossible to imagine in this crowded
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: street in New York City at any rate. A short
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: time later they reached the river, and Elizabeth was amazed
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: to see three classic flying saucers hovering there, complete with
- 1:01:18Speaker 1: bright lights. She also saw a tall, thin creature with
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: no hair, big black almond shaped eyes, no visible nose,
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: a sort of pointed chin, and a tiny mouth which
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: never moved, what we would call a gray. Elizabeth thought
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: she was female. She said, this tall gray had a
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: very skinny body, long arms and fingers, and was wearing
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: a long, flowing black robe with a hood. She couldn't
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: see its legs, But Elizabeth did have the impression that
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: this tall gray was in charge, because this tall gray
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: began to separate all the people into small groups, and
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: shortly later, tall gray called to Elizabeth again, apparently telepathically.
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: Elizabeth walked over and saw that this tall gray was
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: standing near a table with a few different types of
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: glasses and pictures of water on it. And Elizabeth noticed
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: that some of these glasses were very fancy and expensive looking,
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: while others were very plain and simple, and right next
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: to all of this there was a bag lady, a
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: sort of homeless woman, sitting on the ground, and the
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: tall gray turned to Linda and said, this poor woman
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: is thirsty. What are you going to do about it? So,
- 1:02:38Speaker 1: looking at the table with these different glasses of water
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: on it, Elizabeth said, I would like to give her
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: a drink of water. And the tall gray indicated the
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: table and said pick a glass. So Elizabeth thought quickly,
- 1:02:52Speaker 1: and looking at the different glasses, she chose the largest
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: and plainest and gave it to the homeless woman. This
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: intrigued the gray, who told asked her what was the
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: reason for your choice, and Elizabeth explained that she didn't
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: want anything to happen to the fancy glass because the
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: woman might not appreciate it's worth and might drop it
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: and break it. The next thing Elizabeth knew she was
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: back at the foot of her bed in her Manhattan apartment.
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: The beings who had taken her removed her ski jacket.
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: At this point, they pulled out what looked like a
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: sort of large needle looking instrument. This frightened Elizabeth. She
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: began to struggle a little bit. The ets told her
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: that they were doctors and they needed to give her
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: an injection, and she was still struggling as these ets
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: placed this device onto her back, right beneath her right
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: shoulder blade, and they seemed to extract this myriad mysterious
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: white substance from her body. The ETS told her that
- 1:03:56Speaker 1: this was poison and that she should stop smoking cigarettes
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: and consuming so much chocolate. So they were giving her
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: some dietary and advice on not smoking. So that's all
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: she really remembers. In the morning, she woke up and
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: did find a bump and a perfectly round mark on
- 1:04:17Speaker 1: her shoulder blade, which was also swollen. She told her
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: husband what happened, and he was inclined to believe her
- 1:04:26Speaker 1: because he said that he recalled someone telling him that
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: night to stay in bed. She noticed a few other
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: things following that night. Her stereo and clock radio no
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: longer worked, and she also began to wonder about strange odors.
- 1:04:41Speaker 1: She had recently been smelling in her room. Before she
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: thought it might have been a pollution from the street,
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: but now she wondered if it might be connected to
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: these strange visitors in her apartment now also related, she
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: believes it was that. Prior to this, and after she
- 1:05:00Speaker 1: offered several miscarriages which doctors could not account for. In fact,
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: in her second to last miscarriage, the doctors told her
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: that they found no fetus in the sack, and with
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: her last miscarriage, she was rushed to the hospital. This
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: was during her third trimester, but again there was no fetus.
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: Doctors told her that she must have lost the baby
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: prior to this, which Elizabeth denied. Ended up giving her
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: a DNC. Following this, she stopped trying to get pregnant,
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: but to her credit, she did provide her medical records
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: to researchers which did verify what she was talking about,
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: including the missing fetus, and as of nineteen ninety one,
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: her case was still under investigation, so that was a
- 1:05:47Speaker 1: pretty interesting case, don't you think. I mean, the way
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: the ets were described, she does have physical evidence as
- 1:05:55Speaker 1: well physiological evidence. Providing her medical records to the researchers
- 1:06:01Speaker 1: definitely adds a level of credibility a whole missing fetus syndrome.
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: When I hear cases like that, I have to wonder
- 1:06:09Speaker 1: how people can call this an interdimensional phenomena, because where
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: are these fetuses going if this is like purely psychological
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: or interdimensional. I mean, that makes zero sense. I know
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: there are all different kinds of interpretations people have about
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: their experiences, but I have to say that most people
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: who have onboard contact do feel it's extraterrestrial, and certainly
- 1:06:35Speaker 1: the witness does in this case, even though yeah, there
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: are some very high strangeness aspects to it. I found
- 1:06:43Speaker 1: her description of the ets particularly interesting because clearly, at
- 1:06:47Speaker 1: least some of them were not the typical grays. But
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: this whole deal with her being asked to choose a
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: glass of water and which glass she picked, I found
- 1:06:58Speaker 1: that really resting. So yeah, I think all these cases
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: have some interesting insights and provide some real answers. Oh,
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: they raise more questions too and don't pay. But as
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: I've said before, each case provides another piece of the puzzle,
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: helps us to figure out what's going on here. It
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: shows that we are being visited. I mean, I think
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: at this point that's undeniable. There are far too many
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: cases to explain away, ignore deny inescapable that something is
- 1:07:37Speaker 1: going on here. I think we are being visited. It's
- 1:07:40Speaker 1: that simple. That's my assessment, based on all the cases
- 1:07:45Speaker 1: I've researched and all the evidence I've looked at. But
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: that's what I'm just trying to do, is provide the
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: evidence so everyone can make up their own minds. All right,
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: I guess that's it for today. I hope you've enjoyed
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: this episode. Filing five really weird. You have foot encounters
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: involving landings and humanoids and onboard experiences all involving one
- 1:08:10Speaker 1: form of evidence or another, and different types of humanoids
- 1:08:14Speaker 1: and cases from all over the world. Hope you've learned
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: something and found it at least entertaining. But until next time,
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: I really want to thank you for watching. Because of
- 1:08:26Speaker 1: you guys that I do this show, and I really
- 1:08:29Speaker 1: appreciate that. So thank you, thank you, thank you and
- 1:08:32Speaker 1: until next time, keep asking those hard questions. The answers
- 1:08:36Speaker 1: are out there. Keep digging for the truth. It's up
- 1:08:40Speaker 1: to each of us to ferret it out. I wouldn't
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: look to our governments for answers on this because they're
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: not telling us the truth. I don't think we'll ever
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: get full disclosure from them. The most important of all,
- 1:08:52Speaker 1: keep having fun, because if you're not having fun, what
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: are you doing? All Right? Til next time, guys, how'll
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: you next Friday? Thank you very much, bye for now.