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UK Column News - 28th May 2025 · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon. It's Wednesday, the twentieth and May twenty twenty five,
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Speaker 1: just after one o'clock. Welcome to UK column News. I'm
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Speaker 1: your host Mike Robinson. Joining me today is my cost
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Speaker 1: Charles Mallett, who'll be talking about food biosecurity, censorship from
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Speaker 1: the UK Ministry of Defense Starlink's expansion plans. We're also
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Speaker 1: joined by researcher and activist Sandy Adams. She'll be discussing
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Speaker 1: recent attempts to brainwash the people of Glastonbury and to
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Speaker 1: turn the Tinne into World Heard Inside. And also with
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Speaker 1: us is journalist and peace computer Vanessa Bailey, who's going
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Speaker 1: to give lydist analysis the situation in Gaza as well
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Speaker 1: as the ongoing rebranding of terrorists in Syria, particularly Jilani.
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Speaker 1: Now I'm going to have a little bit on online
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Speaker 1: safety shortly, but let's get started with King Charles in
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Speaker 1: Canada yesterday. Because he was in Canada yesterday for a
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Speaker 1: quick visit to deliver the so called Speech from the Throat.
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Speaker 1: The CARNEI regime rolled out the red carpet and brought
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Speaker 1: the carriage and thrown out of mothballs to host the King,
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Speaker 1: who is merely there, apparently as a reaction to Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump's demands on Canada. Now reasserting Canada's sovereignty is how
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Speaker 1: many were putting it in their coverage of it. The
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Speaker 1: Speech from the Throne is the equivalent of the king
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Speaker 1: Speech here in the UK, and it represents the state
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Speaker 1: opening of Parliament, and in Canada it's normally delivered by
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Speaker 1: the Lieutenant Governor of Quebec. But as with the King's speech, here,
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Speaker 1: the words aren't written by the King. They're written on
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Speaker 1: his behalf and or certainly sorry, on behalf of the
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Speaker 1: ruling regime, probably by a team of civil servants. But
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Speaker 1: it's interesting we never actually get to know who writes
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Speaker 1: the actual words. So let's, however, listen to the first
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Speaker 1: few words out of Charles' mouth when he delivered the
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Speaker 1: speech yesterday.
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Speaker 2: Honorable Sentences, Members of the House of Common. It is
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Speaker 2: with a deep and so pride and pleasure that my
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Speaker 2: wife and I join you here today as we witness
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Speaker 2: Canadians coming together in a renewed sense of natural pride,
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Speaker 2: unity and hope. I would like to acknowledge that we
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Speaker 2: are gathered on the unceded territory of the Algonquin and
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Speaker 2: the Shinabeg people. This land acknowledgment is a recognition of
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Speaker 2: shared history as a nation, while continuing to deepen my
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Speaker 2: own understanding. It is my great hope that in each
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Speaker 2: of your communities and collectively as a country, a path
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Speaker 2: is found toward truth and reconciliation in both word and deed.
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Speaker 1: Now, that's very interesting that he was asked to say
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Speaker 1: those words, and perhaps embarrassing that he was asked to
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Speaker 1: say those words, because the British roy family has questions
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Speaker 1: to answer over the treatment of Indigenous children there. In
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, when Charles visited Canada as Prince of Wales,
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Speaker 1: he was reminded by Rosann Archibald, the National Chief of
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Speaker 1: the Assembly of First Nations, of the so called national scandal.
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Speaker 1: I'd say it's much stronger that the national scandal doesn't
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Speaker 1: go strong enough for this of thousands of Indigenous children
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Speaker 1: who died or were abused in the residential school system
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Speaker 1: from the nineteenth century until as late as the nineteen seventies. Now,
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, hundreds of human remains were discovered
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Speaker 1: at former church run schools, and these were all Anglican
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Speaker 1: church run schools. As King Charles is Supreme Governor and
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Speaker 1: despite the excuse of being of this being a largely
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Speaker 1: ceremonial role, he carries the can effectively. So because the role,
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Speaker 1: as I say, is described as largely ceremonial, there's no sorry,
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Speaker 1: there's an acknowledgment of at least part of the role.
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Speaker 1: I've completely messed out up. I've lost my thread there.
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Speaker 1: But anyway, during that twenty two visit twenty twenty two visit,
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Speaker 1: Charles said we must find new ways to come to
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Speaker 1: terms with the darker and more difficult aspects of the past, acknowledging,
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Speaker 1: reconciling and striving to do better, and some of the
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Speaker 1: same type of language being used in the speech from
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Speaker 1: the Throne then, But there's no apology. There's no apology
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Speaker 1: then and no apology since. So if there's to be
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Speaker 1: a renewed relationship with indigenous peoples in Canada, maybe that
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Speaker 1: would be a good place to start. But we should
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Speaker 1: not forget that the abuse doesn't end with indigenous people.
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Speaker 1: Even the elites have been on the receiving end of
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Speaker 1: it in Canada. And Prince Andrew's quote, dear friend Father
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Speaker 1: Keith Gleade a pedophile and Anglican priest who served as
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Speaker 1: chaplain at the elite Lakefield College School between nineteen seventy
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Speaker 1: four and nineteen eighty. This is something else that needs
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Speaker 1: to be discussed. And Andrew himself met at Lakefield. They
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Speaker 1: remained such good friends that Andrew and he did the
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Speaker 1: Reverend to both his twenty first birthday party and to
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Speaker 1: his wedding to Sarah Ferguson. And shortly before Glee died
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Speaker 1: of cancer in twenty twenty one, Andrew traveled to his
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Speaker 1: hospital bed to say goodbye, and this was described at
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Speaker 1: the time as surely a testament of true friendship. So then,
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Speaker 1: of course there is the issue of one hundred thousand
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Speaker 1: children sent to Canada from UK orphanages to serve as
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Speaker 1: farm workers and domestic servants. And well, you may ask,
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Speaker 1: what's has got to do with Charles. With Bernardo's was
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Speaker 1: responsible for much of the child trafficking at the time,
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Speaker 1: and as the current patron, we'll just bring her on screen.
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Speaker 1: If we look at who the current patron is, it is,
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Speaker 1: of course Queen Camilla and before her Queen Elizabeth. The
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Speaker 1: royal family continues to occupy the monarchy Charles. They continue
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Speaker 1: to remain silent on the criminal actions effectively being done
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Speaker 1: in their names, if they're prepared to be patrons for
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Speaker 1: these types of things, or they're prepared to consider certain
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Speaker 1: people to be friends and so on. And I would
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Speaker 1: Charles say that this silence has to be taken as
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Speaker 1: consent at the very least, if not complicity, and really
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Speaker 1: there should be accountability. I don't know what your thoughts
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Speaker 1: would be. Well, I think the.
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Speaker 3: Significance of the apology in the sort of wider context
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Speaker 3: has been devalued over the last few decades because people
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Speaker 3: have been climbing over each other to apologize for things
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Speaker 3: that they absolutely definitely did have nothing to do. Within
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Speaker 3: that they were usually usually very much politicized and relating
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Speaker 3: to a period in history that they could not possibly
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Speaker 3: have influenced. But here we're talking about something completely different,
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Speaker 3: something that did directly involve the people that you have
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Speaker 3: just been speaking about. And I think that that's one part.
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Speaker 3: I think the other part is the reference to a
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Speaker 3: role being ceremonial. Well, one might say, and we talked
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Speaker 3: about this earlier, that the role of monarch is its
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Speaker 3: largely a ceremonial one. Yet now and yet beyond doubt
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Speaker 3: that the role family, particularly the King, does continue to
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Speaker 3: have and pushes for a great deal of influence in
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Speaker 3: the lives of those that are certainly within this country
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Speaker 3: and in obc's territory. So it does seem like a
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Speaker 3: question of wanting to have it both ways, which I
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Speaker 3: think is highly inappropriate.
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Speaker 1: For one better word, yes, okay, Well let's move on
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Speaker 1: to farming and biosecurity then, And just a few days
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Speaker 1: ago the UK government announced it from the first of
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Speaker 1: July farmers will be able to move animals around England
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Speaker 1: with a blue tongue license. Is that exactly what's going on?
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Speaker 3: That is what's going on, And the way I think
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Speaker 3: I would put it is that the biosecurity state as
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Speaker 3: we've come to know it is evolving, and we see
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Speaker 3: this tweet here from APHA, who are moving into a
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Speaker 3: state of complete control via the inherent corruption of the
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Speaker 3: system which underpins it. And it's possible to track this
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Speaker 3: shift from killing everything that the slaughter on suspicion policy
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Speaker 3: to vaccinating everything, and the APHA continues to assume more
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Speaker 3: and more control over the outcomes for livestock, as you
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Speaker 3: say here tweeting about the restriction of the Blue Tongue
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Speaker 3: zone covering all of England. Of course, agricultural policy now
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Speaker 3: being a devolved matter, this means that what are called
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Speaker 3: movement tests will not be required. Now in an email
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Speaker 3: to who they're calling stakeholders, it's made perfectly clear that
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Speaker 3: the reason for this is an expectation that one of
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Speaker 3: three vaccinations will be used on animals deem susceptible. And
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Speaker 3: here we see an encouragement to discuss vaccination with your vet,
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Speaker 3: as though there may be more than one outcome from
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Speaker 3: such a discussion. Now, all available vaccines are authorized on
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Speaker 3: an emergency basis according to the Veterinary Medicine Regulations twenty thirteen.
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Speaker 3: And to better understand what happens if one does follow
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Speaker 3: the science, it's Schedule four that contains the key detail,
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Speaker 3: and they say that the an animal may be treated
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Speaker 3: with any one of these things in order to avoid
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Speaker 3: unacceptable suffering. So effectively, this is where vaccine doesn't already exist.
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Speaker 3: They may use a product for another species or for
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Speaker 3: another condition in the same species. They may use a
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Speaker 3: human medical product authorized in the United Kingdom. They may
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Speaker 3: use a product authorized in any other country for use
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Speaker 3: in any food producing animal species. Or they may even
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Speaker 3: use a product produced extemporaneously by a pharmacist, a veterinary surgeon,
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Speaker 3: or a person holding a manufacturing authorization. In other words,
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Speaker 3: for that last one, someone who's basically guessing with absolutely
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Speaker 3: no research and no preparation. So one might think that
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Speaker 3: with goalposts that far apast, it's a little wonder that
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Speaker 3: investment in vaccines has increased so significantly in recent years.
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Speaker 3: And this is what Bill Gates had to say about
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Speaker 3: his own involvement.
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Speaker 4: Invested ten billion dollars in vaccinations over the last two decades, and.
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Speaker 5: You figured out the return on investment for that, and
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Speaker 5: it kind of done me.
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Speaker 1: Can you walk us through the math?
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Speaker 6: Well, it's pretty impressive that when you take these vaccines,
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Speaker 6: get them to be very inexpensive by making big volume commitments,
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Speaker 6: have that right relationship with the private sector, get the
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Speaker 6: delivery system so they're really getting the coverage out there.
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Speaker 6: You literally saved millions of lives. And twenty years ago
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Speaker 6: when we created these new multilateral organizations Gobby for the Vaccines,
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Speaker 6: Global Fund for HIV, TB and Malaria, we didn't know
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Speaker 6: they'd be successful. They've gone through lots of challenges about
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Speaker 6: making sure the money gets there, making sure the efficiency
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Speaker 6: is right. But as we look at upcoming replenishments for
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Speaker 6: those and we've got so much distraction politically that the
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Speaker 6: international needs like this could get eclipsed if we're not careful.
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Speaker 6: We see a phenomenal track record. It's been one hundred
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Speaker 6: billion overall that the world's put in our foundation. It's
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Speaker 6: a bit more than ten billion, but we feel there's
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Speaker 6: been over a twenty to one return. So if you
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Speaker 6: just look at the economic benefits, that's a pretty strong
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Speaker 6: number compared to anything else.
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Speaker 3: Now, if you're listening and not watching, then I should
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Speaker 3: tell you that for the last bit there where he
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Speaker 3: was talking about the money, he couldn't help but break
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Speaker 3: into a broad smile, because really that's what it's all about.
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Speaker 3: Hand in hand with the requirement for vaccination, has to
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Speaker 3: be the demonstration of a threat, emergent or endemic, which
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Speaker 3: is where the Animal and Plant Health Agency comes in.
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Speaker 3: And this is what they say about their role. So
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Speaker 3: as you listen, take a note of the specific language
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Speaker 3: that they use.
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Speaker 4: AFA's role in controlling blue tong is that we have
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Speaker 4: the responsibility for controlling animal disease in Great Britain is
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Speaker 4: our job to detect cases as they come through, so
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Speaker 4: farms and vets will report suspicion of disease to us.
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Speaker 4: Will then go out and look at those animals, will
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Speaker 4: take the samples. Seven to Perbrite. They are the lead
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Speaker 4: laboratory for blue tund So.
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Speaker 7: The Purbite Institute has a wide range of expertise ranging
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Speaker 7: from not only the laboratory testing aspect, but also around
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Speaker 7: modeling of disease outbreaks, pula coorid surveillance and really supporting
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Speaker 7: disease control. So they are now really preparing ourselves for
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Speaker 7: an outbreak later this year spread by the Keula cordis
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Speaker 7: midge and is able to infect all known ruminant species
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Speaker 7: including cattle, sheep, goats and cannilies.
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Speaker 3: There we go responsibility for controlling animal disease, he said,
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Speaker 3: which is done via testing and the use of the
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Speaker 3: lab at Perbrighte. Now that video was published last year
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Speaker 3: and it illustrates perfectly how the required outcome may be achieved,
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Speaker 3: funded in part by the government. The pur Perbright Institute
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Speaker 3: here boasts via the uk RI of combating animal disease,
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Speaker 3: and they go on to crow about attracting national investment,
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Speaker 3: citing a five point five million dollar investment from the
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Speaker 3: Milinda Gates Foundation back in twenty nineteen to establish the
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Speaker 3: Livestock Antibody Hub. This funding is channeled through the Biotechnology
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Speaker 3: and Biological Sciences Research Council bit of a mouthful the BBSRC,
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Speaker 3: and there has since been a partnership between them and
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Speaker 3: the Gates Foundation, as well as the Foreign and Commonwealth
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Speaker 3: and Development Office investing a further forty million into Perbride. So,
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Speaker 3: bearing in mind Gates is expecting a twentyfold return on
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Speaker 3: such an investment, it should be perfectly obvious that accepting
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Speaker 3: such funding is completely inappropriate and it compromises every process
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Speaker 3: which occurs thereafter. Now I mentioned this on the eighth
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Speaker 3: of May last year. The vaccines themselves may freely enter
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Speaker 3: the food chain. This note from the European Medicines Agency
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Speaker 3: refers to the inclusion of adjuvants aluminium hydroxide and saponin
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Speaker 3: and goes on to say that the withdrawal period is
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Speaker 3: zero days, meaning that an animal may be jabbed and
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Speaker 3: milked in the same day. So bolstering the narrative is
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Speaker 3: the twenty twenty three Biological Security Strategy, with a forward
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Speaker 3: from Oliver Dowden, in which he wrote that our world
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Speaker 3: is increasingly vulnerable to biological threats with catastrophic impacts, whether
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Speaker 3: it's another pandemic, a terrorist attack, or antimicrobial resistance. So
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Speaker 3: it's the intimation that climate change is the ring to
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Speaker 3: rule them all, and in each instance the government is
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Speaker 3: the answer. Now there are multiple references to the threat
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Speaker 3: posed by zoonotic spillover which we are told is the
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Speaker 3: transmission of from sorry of pathogens from animals to humans,
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Speaker 3: even if the animals are not actually ill, and as
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Speaker 3: always there's no need for it to make any sense.
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Speaker 3: The government has just updated its carbon footprint analysis for
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Speaker 3: the year twenty twenty two, and this graph shows exactly
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Speaker 3: how the book cooking exercise works. The destruction of the
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Speaker 3: countryside and the crippling of the economy may be shown
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Speaker 3: to bring about a small decline in the production of
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Speaker 3: domestic greenhouse gases, but this is perfectly offset by the
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Speaker 3: increase in imported goods. And finally, the evolution of the
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Speaker 3: biosecurity state is confirmed by the trials of a testing
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Speaker 3: regime called Diva, which is said to be able to
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Speaker 3: distinguish between cattle which are supposedly infected with TB and
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Speaker 3: those which have been vaccinated. So in conclusion and as
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Speaker 3: if it were really necessary to reinforce the point that
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Speaker 3: vaccination is only an exercise in control and profit. This
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Speaker 3: announcement says that, as with other vaccines, a range of
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Speaker 3: protection is expected. Some animals will be fully or only
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Speaker 3: partially protected after vaccination, whilst others will remain susceptible to
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Speaker 3: the disease.
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Speaker 1: Okay, thank you for that, Charles. Let's move on and
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Speaker 1: welcome Sandy Adams to the program. Sandy, you have been
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Speaker 1: looking at the situation locally in many parts of the
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Speaker 1: country with people running campaigns with the local councils and
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Speaker 1: so on. But increasingly you're seeing the use of certain
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Speaker 1: psychological techniques in order to try to reg in narratives
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Speaker 1: amongst campaigners.
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Speaker 5: Yes, particularly last Saturday on the twenty fourth of May,
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Speaker 5: we had a consultation at Glasbury Town councilor at Glastoby
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Speaker 5: it was the town hall and it was looking at it.
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Speaker 5: I mean, I just wanted to mention firstly that Rosa
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Speaker 5: Correy opened my eyes to the Delphi tech technique many
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Speaker 5: years ago because it was used to gain consensus over
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Speaker 5: agenda twenty one all over the United States. And we
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Speaker 5: have to remember that Delphi technique was developed in the
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Speaker 5: nineteen fifties by researchers at the Rand Corporation, which is
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Speaker 5: a think tank with close ties to the US military
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Speaker 5: and government. And really it's a way to get people
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Speaker 5: together and lead them through a structured process of multiple
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Speaker 5: rounds of questionnaires and feedback, controlled interaction, and it well,
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Speaker 5: it is often used, but you know it's misused by
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Speaker 5: NGOs and corporations and education bodies also to steer people
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Speaker 5: into a sort of group think and into a predetermined outcome,
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Speaker 5: you know, manufacturing consensus. And we see this happening all
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Speaker 5: over particularly with net zero. That's how they reached the
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Speaker 5: way to call uh sort of climate emergency. All over
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Speaker 5: the country. They held these sort of citizens assemblies and
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Speaker 5: this is what we were seeing more and more. Now
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Speaker 5: in Glastonbury they had this consultation and people are genuinely
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Speaker 5: worried about the land being being taken over because we've
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Speaker 5: got this NH sorry w HS scoping exercise happening to
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Speaker 5: make it a World Heritage status town. And it's only
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Speaker 5: a small town. But you know the fact is that
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Speaker 5: we've seen it happen at Stonehenge and Averbury where people
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Speaker 5: have actually been locked out out of the land and
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Speaker 5: they have to pay extra to visit the site. I
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Speaker 5: mean now, to get to Stonehenge, a family ticket is
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Speaker 5: seventy five pounds. It's absolutely mad anyway. People also spiritual
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Speaker 5: people have been locked out of their practices. Druids can
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Speaker 5: only go there on the solstice, to Stonehenge, and you know,
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Speaker 5: they've got a big visitors center now and everything is
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Speaker 5: really all about tourism. So I'll be talking about that
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Speaker 5: a bit later about what WHS means to sacred sites
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Speaker 5: later on in the show, But at the moment, I'm
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Speaker 5: dealing with this scoping exercise, and you know, they held
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Speaker 5: these they put everybody on tables and of course they
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Speaker 5: had they had the goals on the table because it's all,
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Speaker 5: you know, the WHS is all aligned to the seventeen
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Speaker 5: goal of Agenda twenty thirty. And they give people biscuits
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Speaker 5: and tea and really lead them through sort of an
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Speaker 5: exercise about what do they think. There's lots of colored
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Speaker 5: crayons on the table. It's a bit kindergarten people visualize,
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Speaker 5: and they kind of, you know, they lead them through
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Speaker 5: this very state they what appears to be a safe
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Speaker 5: environment and people are relaxed and come out with things,
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Speaker 5: and of course they use that data to then form
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Speaker 5: some kind of you know, visioning brainstorming thing. And first
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Speaker 5: of all, they start with the scoping exercise, and it's
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Speaker 5: really it's how it's all all put together. There's a
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Speaker 5: scoping exercise and then it goes on through other sort
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Speaker 5: of levels, which and then you've got the Delphi technique here,
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Speaker 5: which it goes through right from the issue that they
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Speaker 5: lead you through to get their solution. And it is
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Speaker 5: all about manufacturing consensus and bringing people around, putting facilitators
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Speaker 5: on every table so that they're led through this process.
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Speaker 5: And it really is I mean, what's what's unfortunate is
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Speaker 5: by the end of it, I think we've got the
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Speaker 5: last slide. I think is is how you Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 5: it's how you actually are led. And really everybody's saying
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Speaker 5: yes to everything, but in their heads are going, actually
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Speaker 5: I don't want this, but they're too scared to say
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Speaker 5: something because they want to conform. They want to conform.
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Speaker 5: Can we go back to the previous slide? Sorry, I've
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Speaker 5: jumped the gun a bit. Yeah, if you. The definition
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Speaker 5: is a change in a person's behavior or opinions as
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Speaker 5: a result of real or imagined pressure from a personal
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Speaker 5: group of people, and the dilemma of being a social animal,
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Speaker 5: because actually, you know, you want to keep your individuality,
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Speaker 5: but you want to conform as well, and the establishment
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Speaker 5: tends the establishment tends to like conformists better than nonconformists.
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Speaker 5: So that's where we stand with all of that.
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Speaker 1: Sandy, thank you, thank you for that. As you say,
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Speaker 1: we'll be covering more about world heritage sites a little bit,
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Speaker 1: a little bit more in the a little bit later
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Speaker 1: in the program. Sorry, Vanessa, let me welcome you to
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Speaker 1: the program. Last week we were talking about the and
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Speaker 1: I don't want to say the word rehabilitation because it's
21:18
Speaker 1: the rebit isn't really appropriate. But we're talking about creating
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Speaker 1: a new persona for Jolani in Syria, who is, as
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Speaker 1: we will remind everybody, remains, a terrorist who had a
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Speaker 1: price on his head until very very recently. But last
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Speaker 1: week you hinted at at NGO that I'm not sure
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Speaker 1: that we had fully identified, but we seem to have now,
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Speaker 1: or at least you have. I should say.
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Speaker 8: Yes, and I would just say, Sandy, that sounds very
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Speaker 8: much like gas lighting textbook gas lighting, the Delphi program. Yes,
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Speaker 8: we talked last week about effectively the grooming campaign is
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Speaker 8: I call it Mike of Jelani away from being Isis
22:01
Speaker 8: al Kaeda terrorist to being a legitimate political challenger for
22:06
Speaker 8: power in Syria. And we noted that former ambassador from
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Speaker 8: the US to Syria, Robert Ford, who was actually kicked
22:14
Speaker 8: out of Syria for inciting riots in twenty eleven, was
22:20
Speaker 8: basically invited by a British NGO to basically put into
22:25
Speaker 8: motion this rooming of Joe Lanni. And yes, I have
22:29
Speaker 8: discovered who it is. It's all written up in a
22:32
Speaker 8: new article at UK column that was published yesterday and
22:35
Speaker 8: I do recommend that everybody go and read it. There's
22:38
Speaker 8: an awful lot of detail in there, the blur and
22:41
Speaker 8: the Blair Bush project in Syria that brought al Qaeda
22:44
Speaker 8: to power. So who was the NGO that was responsible
22:49
Speaker 8: for inviting Robert Ford to meet with Joe Lanni back
22:54
Speaker 8: in March twenty twenty three, but actually whose directors had
22:59
Speaker 8: allegedly met with Jolani back in twenty twenty one, which
23:03
Speaker 8: of course is when the PBS Frontline initial interview with
23:08
Speaker 8: the kind of suited and booted Jolani was published. The
23:12
Speaker 8: name is Intermediate. It was established in two thousand and eleven,
23:18
Speaker 8: which is also interesting timing because of course that's when
23:22
Speaker 8: the regime change war against Syria began, backed by the US,
23:27
Speaker 8: the UK, Israel, Turkey and the Arab Gulf States.
23:30
Speaker 9: To name a few.
23:33
Speaker 8: Who are the co founders of Intermedia, Well, one of
23:37
Speaker 8: them is Jonathan Powell, and you'll be also interested to
23:41
Speaker 8: know that he was appointed as national security advisor to
23:46
Speaker 8: Ko Starmer literally weeks before the final fall of Damasco.
23:51
Speaker 8: So again let's just check the timeline here. So in
23:54
Speaker 8: twenty twenty three they invited Robert Ford to come to
23:59
Speaker 8: it live and meet with Jolani. One month prior to
24:03
Speaker 8: the fall of Damascus, Powell was taken from Intermedia and
24:07
Speaker 8: made National security advisor to Karstama. Kostama, of course, is
24:11
Speaker 8: known to be, for want of a better word, the
24:13
Speaker 8: protege of Tony Blair. I actually secured the name of
24:18
Speaker 8: the organization and the name of Jonathan Powell from sources
24:22
Speaker 8: inside Syria, but it was pretty quickly picked up by
24:24
Speaker 8: other media outlets, mostly regional but this by the National
24:29
Speaker 8: talking about Britain's influence, sorry, influence spreads through news area
24:34
Speaker 8: as security chief meets post.
24:36
Speaker 9: As sad leaders.
24:37
Speaker 8: Now, this article in particular goes into a lot of
24:40
Speaker 8: depth about the complex built by UK intelligence in particular
24:45
Speaker 8: that waged the narrative media charity organization war, including of
24:52
Speaker 8: course the formation of the White Helmets in twenty thirteen
24:56
Speaker 8: the regime change war against Syria. So British intelligence is
25:00
Speaker 8: intrinsically embedded in the entire operation to overthrow the Syrian government.
25:09
Speaker 8: This also is an article in French media, in the Figaro,
25:13
Speaker 8: written by a well known French investigative journalists, journalist George Malbruno,
25:19
Speaker 8: who wrote a book on the regime change war called
25:24
Speaker 8: The Path to Damascus. Here he's talking about al Charrao
25:28
Speaker 8: Jolani is dangerously intelligent and his investigation into the new
25:32
Speaker 8: power in Syria. Now, what is interesting is he also
25:37
Speaker 8: identifies that one of the project managers in Intermediate, Lucy Stewart,
25:43
Speaker 8: who speaks Farsi and Arabic, organized or was given the job,
25:49
Speaker 8: let's say, of grooming other members of Jolani's regime, including
25:54
Speaker 8: the former al Qaeda founder and current caretaker Foreign Minister
25:59
Speaker 8: Alshai and potentially she probably organized this interview with Tony
26:04
Speaker 8: Blair at Davos with Siberni which, if you remember, we
26:08
Speaker 8: played it on UK column. It was deeply uncomfortable, for
26:12
Speaker 8: want of a better word. But of course Powell people
26:16
Speaker 8: will remember as the chief of staff of none other
26:20
Speaker 8: than the architect of the war against Iraq and in
26:24
Speaker 8: my opinion also the architect of the future war against Syria,
26:29
Speaker 8: none other than war criminal Tony Blair. This is pale
26:33
Speaker 8: with Tony Blair back. I think during the time of
26:37
Speaker 8: the Iraqi War, Powell of course has gleaned credit for
26:41
Speaker 8: his role in peace negotiations in Ukraine and various other countries.
26:46
Speaker 8: But I just want to draw attention to this is
26:49
Speaker 8: a document that was released as part of the Chilcot
26:52
Speaker 8: Inquiry which shows how Bush and Blair were already planning
26:56
Speaker 8: the war against Syria even during.
26:59
Speaker 9: The war against Iraq.
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Speaker 8: Or here they're talking about giving support in building a
27:03
Speaker 8: new partnership with the worst and Syria in return for
27:07
Speaker 8: closing down support for his bolaren Hamas and helping us
27:10
Speaker 8: over Iraq. He doesn't underestimate the problems of this, but
27:15
Speaker 8: I think it's possible. Again, this is detailed in a
27:19
Speaker 8: lot more with a lot more information in the article
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Speaker 8: if people want to read.
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Speaker 9: A bit more about it now.
27:25
Speaker 8: I also want to look at the co founder of Intermediate,
27:28
Speaker 8: who is Martin Griffiths, and he's named here as now being.
27:32
Speaker 9: A chief advisor.
27:34
Speaker 8: But he also has deep connections as was shown in
27:38
Speaker 8: this twenty twenty three article in Almodine, ex U and
27:44
Speaker 8: Envoyd Yemen tied to MI six, the Secret Intelligence Services,
27:49
Speaker 8: and the Foreign Office. This was originally picked up in
27:52
Speaker 8: the Classified and then republished by Almyodine, but very clear
27:58
Speaker 8: ties to all of the intelligens agencies, and that includes
28:02
Speaker 8: Powell as well, of course, because in fact what was
28:07
Speaker 8: exposed was that Powell back in twenty twelve sent an
28:10
Speaker 8: email to Hillary Clinton in which he said, if we
28:15
Speaker 8: can just have the slide. He informed a senior Clinton
28:19
Speaker 8: aid in twenty twelve that Intermedia works closely with the
28:23
Speaker 8: Foreign Office the nsc SIS in London. I organizes secret
28:29
Speaker 8: channels between insurgents and governments. Work has begun in Syria, Yemen's,
28:34
Speaker 8: Somalia and Burma. And of course twenty twelve is also
28:38
Speaker 8: the time that Jake Sullivan then advisor to Hillary Clinton,
28:42
Speaker 8: email Hillary Clinton, according to Wiki Leak's leaks, saying that
28:47
Speaker 8: al Qaeda is on outside in Syria. And at this
28:50
Speaker 8: time that Powell was sending this email to basically get
28:54
Speaker 8: an audience or to get the interest of Hillary Clinton
28:58
Speaker 8: in intermediate work as effectively an intelligence agency outreach organization
29:04
Speaker 8: in Syria, he was convening with Jake Sullivan who stated.
29:09
Speaker 9: That Al Qaeder is on outside in Syria.
29:12
Speaker 8: So I do recommend people read the article just to
29:15
Speaker 8: get far more detailed than I've been able to give
29:19
Speaker 8: here on the news, but a fascinating nexus of intelligence,
29:23
Speaker 8: military operatives and so on leading the war against Syria
29:27
Speaker 8: and now bringing Joe Lani to power.
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29:48
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29:52
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29:55
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29:59
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30:03
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30:06
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31:56
Speaker 8: I think it's well worth watching simply, I mean for
32:00
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32:05
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Speaker 1: at the moment if you didn't see it live. Charles
32:17
Speaker 1: Bob is hosting an event.
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Speaker 3: He is and just to avoid disappointment, we're going to
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Speaker 1: I see.
32:25
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32:31
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32:46
Speaker 1: let's come back to you, Charles and well, we've been
32:49
Speaker 1: talking about the recent allegations or the continuing allegations of
32:55
Speaker 1: sas involvement in murders and so on in Afghanistan.
32:58
Speaker 3: What have you got We have absolutely And this has
33:01
Speaker 3: been associated or linked to the reports that the government
33:07
Speaker 3: is bound to overturn legislation that was put in by
33:12
Speaker 3: the Conservative government concerning the Northern Ireland legislation or at
33:18
Speaker 3: least going back to twenty twenty three, and it's the
33:23
Speaker 3: concerning the prosecutions against British soldiers for actions taken under
33:28
Speaker 3: Banner in particular, which ran from nineteen sixty nine to
33:32
Speaker 3: two thousand and seven, and the specific legislation was designed
33:35
Speaker 3: to prevent any further legal action from taking place. It
33:39
Speaker 3: was called the or is called rather the Northern Ireland
33:41
Speaker 3: Troubles Legacy and Reconcilienate Reconciliation Act. Twenty twenty three, something
33:46
Speaker 3: which current government plans to overturn. As I say now,
33:49
Speaker 3: news of this government's plans have for obvious reasons, been
33:52
Speaker 3: scrutinized by serving Armed Forces personnel and veterans alike, and
33:57
Speaker 3: to that end, many regimental headquarters and veterans associations have
34:01
Speaker 3: provided updates to their various distribution lists. And now what
34:06
Speaker 3: would appear to be a significant step further into the
34:10
Speaker 3: domain of censorship. It's reported here by Sean Raymond in
34:14
Speaker 3: the Mail on Sunday that the Ministry of Defense has
34:16
Speaker 3: weighed in and ordered that such communications stop. Now this
34:20
Speaker 3: is the second instance of MOD censorship reported on by
34:25
Speaker 3: UK column in recent weeks, the first being the case
34:27
Speaker 3: of serving Roll Marine who had an online survey taken
34:31
Speaker 3: down after an MOD intervention before he was disciplined and
34:35
Speaker 3: then silenced. And now we have a petition to stop
34:40
Speaker 3: the change to the current legislation being sent around the houses,
34:44
Speaker 3: which is something that I can confirm personally. And this
34:47
Speaker 3: has been interpreted as being outside of the Army's scope
34:50
Speaker 3: of political neutrality. Now the question is does this constitute
34:55
Speaker 3: a fair interpretation of Queen's regulations which govern conduct within
35:00
Speaker 3: the Army and specifically there is a prohibition on comment
35:04
Speaker 3: and the expression of views, and there may well have
35:08
Speaker 3: been instances of such, but the response has been a
35:10
Speaker 3: blanket one which means that where the information has simply
35:13
Speaker 3: been passed, it is deemed to be politically controversial. Now
35:18
Speaker 3: Queen's Regulations describe a politically controversial topic as one which
35:22
Speaker 3: is has been or is clearly about to be a
35:26
Speaker 3: matter of controversy between political parties in this country. Now
35:30
Speaker 3: it may be the case that such a topic falls
35:33
Speaker 3: into this categorization, that it's not to say that any
35:37
Speaker 3: parties are necessarily guilty of comment or expression on the matter.
35:42
Speaker 3: And further, and for context, I think it's pertinent to
35:45
Speaker 3: consider the role of politics in the use of force.
35:48
Speaker 3: And here from the Joint Services Publication three to nine eight,
35:52
Speaker 3: which deals with the rules of engagement, we're reminded that
35:55
Speaker 3: rules of engagement are one of the key means by
35:58
Speaker 3: which political control is exercised over the use of force
36:02
Speaker 3: and of ensuring that action taken by UK armed forces
36:06
Speaker 3: is lawful. Now, all of that calls into question the
36:09
Speaker 3: way in which the laws of armed conflict and international
36:12
Speaker 3: humanitarian law is interpreted. So the issue brought out by
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Speaker 3: all of this is that of consistency, and not just
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Speaker 3: in the UK, Various governments appear to want to protect
36:22
Speaker 3: people they describe as terrorists whilst prosecuting some of their
36:25
Speaker 3: own soldiers. And at the same time, as in Australia,
36:28
Speaker 3: a former Special Forces soldier has been found to have
36:31
Speaker 3: committed war crimes by two civil courts, and as asked
36:34
Speaker 3: by the World Socialist website two years ago, why does
36:37
Speaker 3: he face no criminal investigation? So to conclude, highlight the
36:41
Speaker 3: level of disarray in plummeting morales worth listening to the
36:44
Speaker 3: way in which Luke Pollard, currently Armed Forces Minister, plans
36:47
Speaker 3: to lure the young into active service.
36:52
Speaker 10: We inherited a broken recruitment system from the Conservatives. We
36:55
Speaker 10: promise to take steps to fix it, and we are
36:58
Speaker 10: the largest pay increase into a years for those who
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Speaker 10: serve thirty five cent pay increase for recruits, scrapped over
37:04
Speaker 10: one hundred outdated medical practices, created a new direct entry
37:08
Speaker 10: cyber pathway, a conditional offer within ten days of applying
37:12
Speaker 10: and a training start date within thirty days. And we've
37:14
Speaker 10: announced a new tri service recruitment scheme to attract the
37:17
Speaker 10: very best to our armed forces.
37:22
Speaker 3: Hartly words to inspire generation, and I think plenty more
37:25
Speaker 3: to talk about in.
37:26
Speaker 1: Extra absolutely and related then to that, of course, is
37:30
Speaker 1: the issue of online safety, since we're talking about censorship,
37:33
Speaker 1: and OFCOM has commissioned what they call new qualitative research
37:39
Speaker 1: about miss and disinformation, exploring the ways to navigate and
37:43
Speaker 1: mitigate its impact. The report was published by a consultancy
37:48
Speaker 1: called Varian who Ben has covered extensively, or at least
37:52
Speaker 1: did cover extensively last year I think in about five
37:54
Speaker 1: or six different UK column news programs, So if you'd
37:56
Speaker 1: like to starch the UK column news archive you can
38:00
Speaker 1: find out more about varying themselves now. In ofcom's blog
38:04
Speaker 1: posts on this new report, they acknowledged that quote, it's
38:08
Speaker 1: important to be clear from the outset that misinformation is
38:11
Speaker 1: a subjective term. There are a range of ways that
38:14
Speaker 1: misinformation can be characterized, which makes it important to understand
38:17
Speaker 1: the wider context of people's attitudes and knowledge. OFCOM very
38:22
Speaker 1: much wants to bring the issue of misinformation and disinformation
38:26
Speaker 1: to the fore front of people's minds. The one we
38:30
Speaker 1: want to amplify here, they say, is making space in
38:33
Speaker 1: our family and social groups for civil society organizations and
38:38
Speaker 1: broadcasters and other news providers to talk about misinformation and disinformation.
38:43
Speaker 1: So they want to make media literacy quotes everyone's business,
38:47
Speaker 1: online platforms, parents, educators, third sector organizations, providers of health
38:52
Speaker 1: and social care professionals, working with children, broadcasters including public
38:56
Speaker 1: service broadcasters and others to realize the full potential of
38:59
Speaker 1: medal literacy. They say in the UK, contributions and collaboration
39:04
Speaker 1: from all is essential. So they absolutely want fusion on
39:08
Speaker 1: this on this area. But they there is there is. Sorry,
39:14
Speaker 1: the report itself funded by offcom. It's perhaps no surprise
39:19
Speaker 1: then that regulation is seen as a major tool to
39:21
Speaker 1: deal with the problem. Regulation and what are described here
39:25
Speaker 1: as validation markers. So the model which they seem to
39:28
Speaker 1: be being imposed, they were being proposed here is that
39:31
Speaker 1: ofcom uses regulation that drive people towards the regime narrative.
39:35
Speaker 1: While the likes of NewsGuard, Yeah, there there we go, Sorry,
39:39
Speaker 1: let's bring them back on the likes of news Guard
39:42
Speaker 1: provides the so called validation markers. And validation markers might
39:46
Speaker 1: be things like scores that the NewsGuard gave about the
39:50
Speaker 1: trustworthiness and reliability of particular news. Let's in the meantime,
39:55
Speaker 1: ofcom has published another blog post You've got a preview
39:58
Speaker 1: of it there, claiming that sports stars and pundits receive
40:02
Speaker 1: huge qualities of online hit, which risks their confidence in
40:05
Speaker 1: their careers and increases of feeling that they will decide
40:10
Speaker 1: to leave social media altogether. Per souls is what I say.
40:14
Speaker 1: Surely the thing that people with a public profile need
40:16
Speaker 1: is a thicker skin. But since they don't have a
40:20
Speaker 1: thicker skin, instead, we're going to see a much more
40:23
Speaker 1: stringent censorship regime. So that's all good stuff, isn't it
40:27
Speaker 1: It is? Yes, Sandy, let me welcome you back to
40:30
Speaker 1: the program then, and let's talk a little bit more
40:33
Speaker 1: about UNESCO and United Nations and World Heritage Sites.
40:40
Speaker 5: Yes, I mean, obviously you know, my first slide here
40:43
Speaker 5: is really the fact that UNESCO really are the umbrella
40:49
Speaker 5: organization for World Heritage. And I did pick up a
40:53
Speaker 5: couple of their things that this consultation and they do
40:57
Speaker 5: have a policy document and it's all integrated with a
41:01
Speaker 5: sustainable development perspective and it's all tied up with you
41:07
Speaker 5: know that they meet once a year. Uh, and they
41:12
Speaker 5: say they have World Heritage site. Is a duty on
41:17
Speaker 5: the state party and its achieved through appropriate policies in
41:21
Speaker 5: the development plan of a local authority and whose parts
41:25
Speaker 5: of you know, are of a management plan. And you know,
41:29
Speaker 5: I started looking at what state party means, and actually
41:33
Speaker 5: it's it's all about transferring the power from the people
41:40
Speaker 5: of a of an area into the state, into either
41:45
Speaker 5: their government or the United Nations. And how linked up
41:50
Speaker 5: they are with the w w F, which is quite
41:53
Speaker 5: concerning because the w w F has quite a history
41:57
Speaker 5: of colonialism, which I'll go into a little bit later.
42:01
Speaker 5: But really what it means as state parties a nation
42:05
Speaker 5: state that signed and ratified the World Heritage Convention, in
42:09
Speaker 5: this case it means the United Kingdom government, but actually
42:12
Speaker 5: they are answerable to the United Nations at the end
42:16
Speaker 5: of the day, so they can do what they like.
42:19
Speaker 5: So really, unfortunately, what we've seen in certain w World
42:25
Speaker 5: Heritage sites that have been taken over throughout the world,
42:29
Speaker 5: and particularly sacred sites, you've found the displacement of indigenous
42:34
Speaker 5: people in Kenya, we found it, you know, the Massi
42:38
Speaker 5: in Africa. You know that they were accused in twenty
42:42
Speaker 5: twenty two of violent removals and the destruction of homes
42:46
Speaker 5: and grazing bands to meet, you know, conservation targets and tourism.
42:51
Speaker 5: I mean, this is just unbelievable what goes on. And
42:54
Speaker 5: it's all in the name of conservation. You know, in Australia,
42:57
Speaker 5: in Uluru, the same thing has happened. You know, spiritual
43:01
Speaker 5: significance was sidelined in favor of national, international narratives and tourism,
43:07
Speaker 5: cultural tokenism versus genuine indigenous control. So it's happened in Nepal,
43:13
Speaker 5: it's happened in India. When we when you look at
43:18
Speaker 5: the link between the w w F and and they
43:22
Speaker 5: are linked, I mean, although they're different entities, all all
43:25
Speaker 5: of their frameworks into into interlink. And we've got the
43:29
Speaker 5: founder members of the w w F. Of course, we've
43:31
Speaker 5: got uh uh uh, we've got the obviously Prince Prince
43:38
Speaker 5: Philip and Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands and Julian Huxley.
43:44
Speaker 5: Now all of these were Eugenesists, colonialists who actually we
43:49
Speaker 5: were really and two of them involved quite heavily in
43:52
Speaker 5: the Nazi Party. So we've you know, we've got this
43:56
Speaker 5: real colonial thing going on. And it's interesting a prince
44:02
Speaker 5: when Prince Philip died Russia, Sharma said, he had taken
44:07
Speaker 5: a keen interest in he'd taken a keen interest in
44:12
Speaker 5: in Uh sorry, I've lost my slide.
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Speaker 1: I'll read your died here take a keen interest in
44:18
Speaker 1: religion and conservation despite dispatching a two point five meter
44:21
Speaker 1: tiger with a single shot and an official visitor India
44:25
Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty one.
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Speaker 5: It was nineteen sixty one.
44:29
Speaker 1: Ye, yeah, the same year he became president of the
44:31
Speaker 1: World Wildlife Fund UK.
44:34
Speaker 4: Yeah.
44:34
Speaker 5: And there is another slide of him with that tiger
44:38
Speaker 5: in nineteen sixty one shot in Jaipur. Now, these people
44:42
Speaker 5: just I mean, it really is about money and the
44:46
Speaker 5: whole tourism thing with the WWF, It's all about financializing nature.
44:51
Speaker 5: This is what they're doing all over the world. And
44:54
Speaker 5: now we've got, you know, the whole carbon thing intertwined
44:57
Speaker 5: with that, with the greenwashing, so with seeing a land
45:00
Speaker 5: grab of massive proportions with whs Yeah.
45:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we shouldn't Sandy, we shouldn't forget that. Prince
45:08
Speaker 1: Philip began the whole conservation part of this. As far
45:12
Speaker 1: as the Royal family is concerned with, Prince Charles and
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Speaker 1: NI King Charles has absolutely continued that legacy and despite
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Speaker 1: the fact that he said just prior to this coronation
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Speaker 1: that he would be giving up the political activism. He
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Speaker 1: absolutely has not given that up in any way, shape
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Speaker 1: or form.
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Speaker 9: Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, have you got any thoughts?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think this is it. It's tracing
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Speaker 3: how far back it goes, but also the identification of
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Speaker 3: the key part of it, which was money and specifically
45:41
Speaker 3: other people's money. And we go back to the now
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Speaker 3: King then Prince of Wales giving his address in Wales
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Speaker 3: in nineteen seventy talking about people effectively becoming fed up
45:51
Speaker 3: with the subject of what was then ecology, and it's
45:56
Speaker 3: saying that not only do they need a sort of
45:58
Speaker 3: buzzing pr campaign around it, but they also need to
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Speaker 3: find a way in which to sling the bill around
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Speaker 3: somebody else's neck. And here we are, fifty plus years
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Speaker 3: on and we see that that is exactly what has
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Speaker 3: been prosecuted. So it was very very cleverly done and
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Speaker 3: continues to be so because of course the vast majority
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Speaker 3: of people do and will go along with it.
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Speaker 1: Yes, now, I've got to say thanks to Brian for
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Speaker 1: sending me this video clip that we're going to watch
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Speaker 1: his second through. But at the weekend on Sunday, kemmy
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Speaker 1: Bidnock what we call her the shadow Prime Minister? Perhaps
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Speaker 1: I don't know the certainly the leader of the Tory
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Speaker 1: Party was on the Trevor Phillips program on Sky and well,
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to introduce it much more than that.
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Speaker 1: Let's just have a listen to what Phillips asked her
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Speaker 1: and a short excerpt of what she had to say.
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Speaker 11: This week, the Prime Minister joined with mister macall and
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Speaker 11: mister Corney in criticizing Israel. Mister Letta Yahoo responded by
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Speaker 11: accusing him of supporting murderers, rapists and baby killers' was
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Speaker 11: the Israeli leader right to say that?
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Speaker 12: Well, I think the first thing to say on this
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Speaker 12: issue is that if Hamas is praising your actions, you've
47:16
Speaker 12: probably done something wrong what he has said. But I've
47:21
Speaker 12: been very clear where I stand. Hamas is a terrorist group.
47:24
Speaker 12: They are not off friends we're talking about, but it's
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Speaker 12: all related. Who is who funds Hamas? Iran an enemy
47:32
Speaker 12: of this country? Enemy of this country. Israel is fighting
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Speaker 12: a proxy war on behalf of the UK just like
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Speaker 12: Ukraine is on behalf of the West of Western Europe
47:41
Speaker 12: against Russia.
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Speaker 1: So here was apparently an open public acknowledgment from a
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Speaker 1: key senior politician that the UK that the UK two
47:54
Speaker 1: of the key wars taking place at the moment are
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Speaker 1: being pursued on behalf of the UK proxy wars. I
48:01
Speaker 1: haven't heard any such public acknowledgment like that before. I
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Speaker 1: think it's a pretty incredible statement. It hasn't had any
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Speaker 1: particular coverage as far as I've seen in the mainstream press.
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Speaker 3: What are your thoughts, well, one wonders whether it will.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's it's astonishing the degree to
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Speaker 3: which people can speak out and be completely ignored. If
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Speaker 3: we think that what's built up to this is the
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Speaker 3: number of people who've joined the queue or in so
48:26
Speaker 3: far as having a go at the state of Israel
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Speaker 3: or in particular Nadannyahoo and using the word genocide and
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Speaker 3: this and the other. So a lot of words coming
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Speaker 3: out there, but in atter fact, very very few or
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Speaker 3: no actions whatsoever. So it's all very well for her
48:41
Speaker 3: to sit there in opposition supposed opposition and say something
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Speaker 3: like this, But what can she do about it? Who
48:48
Speaker 3: will she influence in saying it? But no, I mean,
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Speaker 3: I'm sure that her comments will be suppressed as far
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Speaker 3: as they can possibly be.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Vanessa, I don't know whether you've seen that clip already,
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Speaker 1: but to be interested in your thoughts.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I had seen it on mostly on telegram. As
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Speaker 8: you say, it hasn't unsurprisedly been picked up by mainstream
49:12
Speaker 8: media at all, because that would necessitate their investigation into
49:19
Speaker 8: the claim a little bit more, and of course they
49:21
Speaker 8: don't want to do that. But I think, you know,
49:25
Speaker 8: there's a lot of truth in what she said. For sure,
49:29
Speaker 8: I would argue that Israel is also fighting a proxy
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Speaker 8: war for the West, the US, and the UK, as
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Speaker 8: it has done traditionally since the creation of the Zionist movement.
49:41
Speaker 8: So I think the dog and the tail wagged together
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Speaker 8: much of the time.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Indeed. Well let's come back to you then, and
49:51
Speaker 1: what is a litterst that's going on in Gaza.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 8: Well, first of all, I have to really apologize because
49:58
Speaker 8: I'm bringing David Lammy back on and it pained me
50:02
Speaker 8: just as much as it's going to pain all of
50:04
Speaker 8: you to have to listen to him.
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Speaker 9: But let's roll this video.
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Speaker 13: I'm announcing that we have suspended negotiations with this Israeli
50:13
Speaker 13: government on a new trade, free trade again, we will
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Speaker 13: be reviewing cooperation with them under the twenty thirty Bilateral Roadmap. Lettnia,
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Speaker 13: whose government's actions have made this necessary, Modern Deputy Speaker, Today,
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Speaker 13: my honorable friend, the Minister for the Middle East, is
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Speaker 13: summoning the Israelian bassadors the Foreign Office to convey this message.
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Speaker 13: I say now to the people of Israel, we want
50:47
Speaker 13: I want a strong friendship with you based on shared values,
50:53
Speaker 13: with flourishing ties between our people and societies. We are
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Speaker 13: unwavering in our commitment to your security and to your
51:02
Speaker 13: future to counter in the very real threat from Iran,
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Speaker 13: the scourge of terrorism and the evils of anti Semitism.
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Speaker 13: But the conduct of the war in Gaza is damaging
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Speaker 13: our relationship with your government.
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Speaker 8: So one might think a tiny glimpse of a cause
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Speaker 8: for celebration there. Well, don't think, you know, don't follow
51:28
Speaker 8: that route too quickly, because here is the UK Trade
51:31
Speaker 8: Envoy Lord in Austin of Dudley in Israel, going to
51:39
Speaker 8: the cutting edge custom scanning center, Bayport hyphen Nazareth Light
51:45
Speaker 8: Railway project and the Technion whatever that is. So he
51:49
Speaker 8: clearly has absolutely no problem with continuing trade with Israel.
51:54
Speaker 8: As he says in the House very recently, we'd be
51:57
Speaker 8: foolish to sever our trade links with Israel. So he
52:02
Speaker 8: seems to be completely overriding the Foreign Minister's statement in Parliament.
52:08
Speaker 8: And what does he say in that which is interesting
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Speaker 8: for me because it basically confirms what we've been saying
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Speaker 8: at UK column for some time. And note that Lammie
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Speaker 8: actually mentioned the twenty thirty Israel UK Roadmap in his statement.
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Speaker 8: So what does Lord Austin say. Thousands of jobs in
52:27
Speaker 8: the UK depend on trade with Israel. One point seven
52:30
Speaker 8: million people work for UK firms exporting goods to Israel.
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Speaker 8: One in eight of the drugs dispensed by the NHS
52:38
Speaker 8: comes from Israeli companies. Every business and family in the
52:42
Speaker 8: country uses Israeli technology in their homes, computers, cars and
52:46
Speaker 8: phones every day. So simply actually confirming what we've been
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Speaker 8: warning of and the infiltration by the spy Unit eight
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Speaker 8: two hundred and other tech based military spy units in Israel.
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Speaker 8: He said very similar things back on May the thirteenth
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Speaker 8: in the Telegraph, which is known to channel British Intelligence
53:09
Speaker 8: Agency statements. Also British sanctions against Israel would be self
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Speaker 8: harming and morally wrong. So standing against and boycotting a
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Speaker 8: country that is committing genocide apparently isn't wrong. And what
53:25
Speaker 8: does he say in this article, which again I find
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Speaker 8: very interesting, And let's not forget that during the pandemic COVID,
53:32
Speaker 8: of course Britain was able to reap the benefits of
53:35
Speaker 8: Israel's world leading health strategies thanks to close cooperation between
53:40
Speaker 8: our two countries. So this raises the question what exactly
53:43
Speaker 8: were those cooperations and what exactly was the UK reaping
53:48
Speaker 8: an advantage of He also mentions in that article that
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Speaker 8: in twenty twenty four, during the genocide, the UK supply
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Speaker 8: three point two billion in exports to a well and
54:01
Speaker 8: they imported two point five billiant from Israel. And he
54:05
Speaker 8: states that without Israeli tech, RAF.
54:08
Speaker 9: Planes could not actually get off the ground.
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Speaker 8: And the familiar excuse is that Israel has foiled multiple
54:16
Speaker 8: terror threats. Now you will remember that Theresa May's government
54:20
Speaker 8: used the same excuse when Saudi Arabia was bombing the
54:24
Speaker 8: Yemenies with British made bombs. They said that, yes, but
54:28
Speaker 8: Saudi Arabia helps us to foil terror plots on UK territory.
54:33
Speaker 8: So very very familiar Kennard's being floated out there to
54:37
Speaker 8: try and obscure the fact that Britain is complicit in
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Speaker 8: the genocide and Gaza, and just to remind everyone as.
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Speaker 9: If they really need it.
54:46
Speaker 8: This young girl that we were going to see in
54:48
Speaker 8: the video, if you just want to play and I'll
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Speaker 8: talk over it ward, I'll Sheik Khalil. You can see
54:55
Speaker 8: the inset photo there. She was the child seen trying
54:59
Speaker 8: to escape the burner tents at the Familjaoi school. Her
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Speaker 8: mother and six siblings were burned alive in that attack
55:08
Speaker 8: by the Zionists. Thirty six civilians, the majority of which
55:12
Speaker 8: were children, were also burned alive in that attack. And
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Speaker 8: I just want to show this photo which I find
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Speaker 8: absolutely horrifying. These are the starvation lines cattling young men
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Speaker 8: and Gaza towards the American corporate run aid centers, and
55:31
Speaker 8: of course, starving people forced into such containment, chaos broke
55:36
Speaker 8: out and they were then fired upon by the IOF
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Speaker 8: military and many of them, of course were massacred.
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Speaker 9: And of course the response on AX.
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Speaker 8: To Austin's Lord Austin's tweet was, let's say gratifying, you
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Speaker 8: can freees frame and read it. I can't read it
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Speaker 8: from here, but just the last tweek from all the
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Speaker 8: last response from Louis all Day, who's a well known
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Speaker 8: historian academic, you are blood stained genocidal demons.
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Speaker 9: Well I can't really disagree with that.
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Speaker 1: Vanessa, thank you very much for that tragic store report.
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Speaker 1: Because well, what course we say again more complicity from
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Speaker 1: the UK government. It's not just the royal family, it's
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Speaker 1: from Tom to bottom of the British STD and well
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Speaker 1: there are representatives. Maybe we should be doing something about it.
56:35
Speaker 1: But let's move on, Charles, to Elon and Starlink.
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Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, and in particular the Internet provided by Starlink
56:44
Speaker 3: getting away from the insnet of course becoming harder and harder.
56:47
Speaker 3: And this now applies to air travel, where Elon Musk's
56:51
Speaker 3: array of low Earth orbit satellites are delivering Wi Fi
56:55
Speaker 3: directly into aircraft. And here's the Starlink pitch for attracting customer.
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Speaker 3: Airlines of course have signed up in their droves like Catar,
57:04
Speaker 3: nobody wanting to be left behind by their competitors. But
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Speaker 3: what is neither considered nor discussed, apparently, is the impact
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Speaker 3: of such a development.
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Speaker 1: It's reckoned.
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Speaker 3: That mask has approximately seven thousand such satellites flying at
57:19
Speaker 3: the moment, with a projection that tens of thousands will
57:22
Speaker 3: be in low Earth orbit within decades. Now, as the
57:25
Speaker 3: use of wireless internet in aircraft, there's no safety data,
57:29
Speaker 3: and as usual the line will simply be that there's
57:31
Speaker 3: no known adverse effect. So in short, if you don't
57:34
Speaker 3: look for it, you can't find it. The other and
57:38
Speaker 3: very much related issues concern the life span of the
57:40
Speaker 3: satellites now as though a revelation, and certainly one that
57:44
Speaker 3: would put paid to the climate change story if anyone
57:47
Speaker 3: were listening the New Scientist reports on the devastating effects
57:51
Speaker 3: of solar storms and the overall effect of the Sun
57:54
Speaker 3: on Lernbehold, temperature and climate. We're in a period described
57:58
Speaker 3: as a solar maximum, or at least have been recently,
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Speaker 3: a term almost guaranteed to be omitted by any so
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Speaker 3: called climate scientists. Now this means that damage is being
58:07
Speaker 3: done to the satellites far faster than anticipated, which means
58:11
Speaker 3: that many more will be sent up to compensate, and
58:15
Speaker 3: it also means that the way in which they're meant
58:17
Speaker 3: to disintegrate is being called into question, raising the possibility
58:20
Speaker 3: of collision with aircraft. Now, the odds of such a
58:23
Speaker 3: thing happening are written off or written about dismissively by
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Speaker 3: mainstream commentators, which presumably will continue to be the case
58:30
Speaker 3: until there is a collision. So here we have yet
58:33
Speaker 3: another example of the unthinking application of a form of
58:36
Speaker 3: technology just because it is possible and with no regard
58:40
Speaker 3: for the consequences. So we might go on to talk
58:43
Speaker 3: about that a little bit more.
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Speaker 1: In extra we should remember, of course, that SpaceX has
58:51
Speaker 1: form on this, because the recent Starship launchers have resulted
58:56
Speaker 1: in two separate incidents of aircraft having to skip a
59:00
Speaker 1: particular area of aerospace as quickly as possible. And of
59:02
Speaker 1: course this puts air traffic air travelers at risk because
59:06
Speaker 1: as soon as you get into this type of emergency
59:08
Speaker 1: situation where aur traffic control is having to move people
59:11
Speaker 1: out of the way as quickly as possible, the risks
59:14
Speaker 1: of I mean, there are collision avoidance systems, but nonetheless
59:18
Speaker 1: this is not a healthy situation. It doesn't seem so.
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Speaker 3: And as I say, it's just something that never gets
59:24
Speaker 3: talked about, never gets thought about, apparently, and they just
59:26
Speaker 3: push on regardless. So you know, the fingers crossed approach.
59:30
Speaker 3: Now in terms of fingers crossed or indeed fingers being manipulated,
59:35
Speaker 3: We'll just finish off with something that might not necessarily
59:39
Speaker 3: seem credible, but is absolutely true, And I take you
59:42
Speaker 3: to the website of Enhanced declaring that the future of
59:45
Speaker 3: sports is here, pointing us towards the enhanced gains in
59:49
Speaker 3: Las Vegas in twenty twenty six. And this is something
59:52
Speaker 3: that is designed to celebrate augmentation of the human form,
59:56
Speaker 3: or put better, transhumanism. So here we see performing enhancements,
1:00:00
Speaker 3: scientific and technological advancements. Of course a range of well
1:00:04
Speaker 3: groomed people supporting such an initiative. But as with all
1:00:08
Speaker 3: these questions, all these things, we have to ask the question,
1:00:11
Speaker 3: if we want to evolve humanity, as they say here,
1:00:13
Speaker 3: who's putting the money behind it? And learn behold there
1:00:17
Speaker 3: is Peter Teel, the headman founder at PayPal and paneteer
1:00:22
Speaker 3: of course running most of the British government projects, and
1:00:26
Speaker 3: indeed behind this great esque spectacle of a celebration of frankly,
1:00:32
Speaker 3: the corruption of the human form. So I'm not sure
1:00:35
Speaker 3: how many people will be tuning into those games in
1:00:38
Speaker 3: Las Vegas, or indeed whether medals will be awarded for
1:00:41
Speaker 3: performance or for the degree of augmentation and adaptation to
1:00:46
Speaker 3: a particular human. We may cover it, we may not.
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Speaker 1: Yes, I doubt believe if you talk about that an
1:00:53
Speaker 1: extra as well amongst other things. I'm going to say
1:00:55
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