Latest / Stuff Mom Never Told You / Happy Hour #83: The Awful Truth (SATC S2, Ep2)
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to Stephanie
- 0:07Speaker 1: Never told your protection of I Heart Radio. Yes, and
- 0:19Speaker 1: welcome to our subsegment of Happy Hour where we get
- 0:22Speaker 1: to watch Sex in the City and talk about the
- 0:26Speaker 1: relevance or irrelevance of what these shows, what this show
- 0:31Speaker 1: specifically has done for us as a culture and for
- 0:35Speaker 1: me as an individual that loved this and for any
- 0:37Speaker 1: who has never seen it before. Correct. And we took
- 0:41Speaker 1: a bit of a break after the season one finale
- 0:44Speaker 1: where we had special guests Bridgete Todd, and we are
- 0:48Speaker 1: back and I'm very excited. I'm very excited. In the
- 0:50Speaker 1: last episode, you heard our super producer Christina, who makes
- 0:53Speaker 1: these episodes happen, and so yeah, I I I'm very
- 0:57Speaker 1: excited and interested to see what conversation come forward. Yes, yes,
- 1:01Speaker 1: because I keep alluding to when we're having the middle
- 1:04Speaker 1: of a conversation, I don't know what I'm like. That's
- 1:06Speaker 1: in Sex in the City. You get to see it, um,
- 1:08Speaker 1: which we did in the last episode that we did
- 1:12Speaker 1: with the season premared of season two with super producer Christina,
- 1:16Speaker 1: who by the way, killed the predictions. Oh my god,
- 1:19Speaker 1: she embarrassed. Yeah, she he knew what this is. Why
- 1:25Speaker 1: he's a great producer that she knows, she knows these tropes,
- 1:29Speaker 1: she knows how that goes. So congratulations on kudos to her. UM.
- 1:33Speaker 1: And yeah, so we are on episode two of season two.
- 1:37Speaker 1: Are you excited? I am? And also just listeners, so
- 1:40Speaker 1: you know Samantha has moved into a new house at
- 1:43Speaker 1: this point, and so previously we were podcasting from her couch.
- 1:48Speaker 1: Now we're in kind of a sportscasting situation. Desk. We're
- 1:51Speaker 1: at a desk. We look a little more official with
- 1:53Speaker 1: our book. We've got a TV in front of us.
- 1:56Speaker 1: We are hunkered down at this desk to play by play.
- 2:01Speaker 1: I think that'd be fun to do it as a
- 2:03Speaker 1: sports broadcast level. Oh maybe we should do one episode
- 2:07Speaker 1: like that. We do guests who are biggest sports and
- 2:09Speaker 1: we'll do it together. That would be great. Yes, UM,
- 2:12Speaker 1: and we have been talking about it and some of
- 2:14Speaker 1: you have reached out asking how you can be a
- 2:16Speaker 1: guest on one of these episodes. We will be doing that,
- 2:19Speaker 1: so listen soon, UM, and we'll give you details on
- 2:21Speaker 1: how to qualify to be a guest dot dot UM.
- 2:26Speaker 1: But today Annie, as tradition, are you ready um, can
- 2:31Speaker 1: you give us a rundown what happened in episode one
- 2:34Speaker 1: of season two? I can, but Christine a good new
- 2:38Speaker 1: it better. Uh, there was a lot of sports funds,
- 2:43Speaker 1: so that would have been good for the sports broadcasting one.
- 2:46Speaker 1: Actually do this. I know a lot of like talk
- 2:49Speaker 1: about rebounds and because Carry had broken up with Big
- 2:53Speaker 1: in the season one finale, so just discussion around that.
- 2:57Speaker 1: Random had a great comment about how they just talked
- 3:00Speaker 1: about man and how she didn't like that. But yeah,
- 3:03Speaker 1: it was a lot of you know, single rebound, I'll
- 3:07Speaker 1: date this baseball player maybe kind of discussion. We had
- 3:10Speaker 1: a big conversation about if we had breakup rules, right,
- 3:14Speaker 1: break up rules and to me, they shouldn't exist into
- 3:17Speaker 1: you we're friends. Yeah. Now we are onto the episode two,
- 3:22Speaker 1: which the title is The Awful Truth. Can you make
- 3:25Speaker 1: a prediction? My confidence is really shattered. I feel like
- 3:32Speaker 1: the Awful Truth? Um, I don't know. Maybe it's just
- 3:36Speaker 1: kind of accepting the quote to reality of of dating
- 3:42Speaker 1: and two breakups and how terrible it can be and
- 3:47Speaker 1: you can't escape I have. I don't know. The truth
- 3:52Speaker 1: could refer to a lot of things. It is a vague.
- 3:55Speaker 1: It's not as funny right as the first one. But okay, alright, alright,
- 3:59Speaker 1: we'll see how well you do. I'll do a score
- 4:01Speaker 1: with you and then, oh no, I feel like I'm
- 4:03Speaker 1: being evaluated, especially at this death situation. Essentially you are.
- 4:07Speaker 1: This is a job interview because you're sitting next to me. Right.
- 4:17Speaker 1: Two years ago, my friend Susan Sharon, the East Coast
- 4:20Speaker 1: rep for a line of Italian cashmere sportswear, married a
- 4:24Speaker 1: very mean man. What did I tell you about listening
- 4:26Speaker 1: to my CDs? You put Natalie back? You even talked
- 4:33Speaker 1: about this before, and you know they're getting married and
- 4:36Speaker 1: then being miserable. Someone kind of disappears from you. This
- 4:41Speaker 1: is one of those being miserable episodes. He's just tired
- 4:51Speaker 1: and cranky. That was classic Richard Tyrannical, emotionally abusive. I
- 4:57Speaker 1: don't know what to do anymore. So it has a
- 5:00Speaker 1: lot of conversations about what is worth staying for would
- 5:04Speaker 1: you would you rather be alone? Or would you rather
- 5:08Speaker 1: go through it? Yeah? So you think I should leave him?
- 5:13Speaker 1: So she asks should I leave him? That's so mean
- 5:18Speaker 1: to ask of someone. Yeah, that's tough. Would you say
- 5:22Speaker 1: tell someone to do it? I've done it. I've told
- 5:24Speaker 1: people to do it. I feel like I have to
- 5:27Speaker 1: do it at least one time. Like I like, if
- 5:29Speaker 1: I see something that's abusive or bad, I'm like, Okay,
- 5:31Speaker 1: i'm gonna say my piece and then I'm gonna let
- 5:33Speaker 1: you make your decision. I'll support you in any way. Yeah,
- 5:38Speaker 1: I've I've definitely had those conversations where I guess, if
- 5:43Speaker 1: I feel like they're not really asking, like I say,
- 5:45Speaker 1: don't really want to hear the answer, I'll be quiet.
- 5:48Speaker 1: But if they like are honestly asking, I've had at
- 5:50Speaker 1: least two situations where it's like you should yeah, that's
- 5:54Speaker 1: he's no good. But that's the thing. It's like, so
- 5:57Speaker 1: I this is going to more serious. But those in
- 6:01Speaker 1: domestic violence situations where friends get frustrated and instead of
- 6:06Speaker 1: being patient, we'll be like, you're doing the city yourself,
- 6:09Speaker 1: I can't watch you. I'm leaving you. And that's a
- 6:11Speaker 1: tough love. But I'm like, that's only working to the
- 6:14Speaker 1: dude's advantage or the partner's advantage, and it's not doing
- 6:18Speaker 1: what you think it is. You've got to let them
- 6:20Speaker 1: be and understand. There's a lot more conversation when it
- 6:23Speaker 1: comes to emotionally being abusive. Yeah, I mean ultimately, Yeah,
- 6:31Speaker 1: you can say your thing, but it's their life and
- 6:35Speaker 1: you can't control it. But it is weird when like
- 6:38Speaker 1: you're like, oh, that guy sucks, and then they break
- 6:40Speaker 1: up and then they get back together and you have
- 6:42Speaker 1: to kind of pretend like it never happened. Oh yeah,
- 6:46Speaker 1: everything is so fun, which I've done so many times.
- 6:48Speaker 1: But typically they know, because I am very loud about it,
- 6:51Speaker 1: that I hate them, and I'm like, you do you,
- 6:53Speaker 1: I'll support you, but I won't be around him. Right,
- 6:55Speaker 1: That's that conversation. And if I have to know, that's
- 6:58Speaker 1: gonna be very minimal conversation. Yeah, I mean too write.
- 7:07Speaker 1: Sex is not a time to chat. In fact, it's
- 7:10Speaker 1: one of the few instances in my overly articulated, exceedingly
- 7:14Speaker 1: verbal life where it is perfectly appropriate, if not preferable,
- 7:17Speaker 1: to shut up and now. Also, okay, so Miranda's whole
- 7:21Speaker 1: thing is she's dating a dude who likes to talk dirty.
- 7:25Speaker 1: Can you talk dirty? Do you do the sex talk?
- 7:27Speaker 1: I can't do it. I know it because I've read
- 7:29Speaker 1: a lot of fan fiction, but I can't do it. Seriously,
- 7:32Speaker 1: I will I giggle or like is this working? Sounds
- 7:35Speaker 1: very silly to me. Okay, I'm about to do a
- 7:39Speaker 1: confession time. Are you ready? I'm ready confession and all
- 7:42Speaker 1: of I'm letting all the fam know. Oh my god.
- 7:46Speaker 1: I got trapped into one of those choose your own
- 7:49Speaker 1: story phone games and I'm like, what is what is this?
- 7:56Speaker 1: So I had too because I got too many ads
- 7:57Speaker 1: and I got suckered into it. I did. I'm sorry
- 8:00Speaker 1: and I'm really And the language in it is hilarious
- 8:04Speaker 1: because instead of saying orgasms, they say edge getting to
- 8:07Speaker 1: the edge. Instead of saying you know, dick or penis,
- 8:12Speaker 1: they say his member, his hardness, And I'm like, what
- 8:17Speaker 1: is this? Is this how you talk dirty? And the
- 8:19Speaker 1: way they talk dirty is saying like oh yes Sam
- 8:22Speaker 1: or like the characters, I'm like, what is happening? And
- 8:27Speaker 1: so like I'm like, this is supposed to be sexy,
- 8:29Speaker 1: but I can't help but laugh at this language and
- 8:32Speaker 1: trying to go everywhere but to what it is. Yes, yes,
- 8:36Speaker 1: I mean we did that with that episode where we
- 8:38Speaker 1: just ran off sex words and I was so hard
- 8:42Speaker 1: I can't I can't do it. I do want to
- 8:46Speaker 1: know if anybody out there does that work for you
- 8:50Speaker 1: do you have a romance novel type of dirty talk
- 8:53Speaker 1: and does your partner reciprocate? And because like no judgment,
- 8:57Speaker 1: I want to know is this something that can because
- 8:59Speaker 1: I will buy pass it if I'm like, Okay, this
- 9:01Speaker 1: seems like a hot scene, let's go. But then I'm like, wait,
- 9:05Speaker 1: this just brought me back because we can't say right
- 9:09Speaker 1: these things. I think it called our clitterers a button
- 9:13Speaker 1: her button. Yes, yes, yes, it quite makes me laugh.
- 9:21Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know that a listener wrote in once
- 9:23Speaker 1: and was very open about their use of dirty talking
- 9:26Speaker 1: sex and how much they liked it. So it works
- 9:28Speaker 1: your symping. I think it's a confidencing and it's just
- 9:31Speaker 1: you know your tastes. Um. I did write. I was
- 9:34Speaker 1: a part of it. I don't know if you've ever
- 9:35Speaker 1: done this, but I was ward group where everybody wrote
- 9:38Speaker 1: a chapter of a porn So I did that once
- 9:40Speaker 1: and it was very funny. Oh I love it. It It
- 9:42Speaker 1: was supposed to be funny, but it was. That's amazing. Well,
- 9:45Speaker 1: that's the thing is that we we don't want to
- 9:46Speaker 1: diminish the fact that people love this stuff and we're
- 9:48Speaker 1: like romance novels and I'm not gonna don't get me wrong,
- 9:51Speaker 1: because I'm still reading it and I'm like, okay, this
- 9:53Speaker 1: is interesting. However it does. I'm like, wow, this is
- 9:58Speaker 1: as a teenager before really exploring my sexuality. I was like, oh, yeah,
- 10:05Speaker 1: this works. I get it, I get it. This is like,
- 10:07Speaker 1: this is absolutely that softcore, softcore porn that you want
- 10:11Speaker 1: um with it. And then Charlotte did my solution for
- 10:14Speaker 1: a while and instead of finding a man, found a dog. Yeah,
- 10:18Speaker 1: you know, it's a company after a fashion There is
- 10:24Speaker 1: a there's a Seinfeld episode which Seinfeld was coming out
- 10:27Speaker 1: of around the same time as this um where Elaine
- 10:31Speaker 1: does dirty talk and I remember I learned a lot
- 10:33Speaker 1: of stuff from Seinfeld or wrong, and I remember her
- 10:36Speaker 1: being like that dirty sneak and I was like, is
- 10:38Speaker 1: that sexy? I don't know. I love it. I love it. Meanwhile,
- 10:47Speaker 1: across town, Miranda was appearing as it lies A Doolittle
- 10:51Speaker 1: in my Filthy Lengthy Lady. Okay, Hey it's me Carrie. Hey,
- 11:07Speaker 1: how are you doing great? Great? Listen. I just wanted
- 11:11Speaker 1: to call and thank you for the flowers. That was
- 11:13Speaker 1: very thoughtful of you. Oh yeah, yeah, well, you know,
- 11:16Speaker 1: my secretary had an on our calendar, so like, you know, see,
- 11:20Speaker 1: don't you think your secretary even me? I think it'd
- 11:22Speaker 1: be awkward if you send as broken up you send
- 11:25Speaker 1: flowers to your ex on their birthday. Yeah, that's that's
- 11:30Speaker 1: too much. Also apparently he's plutting it to sec like, oh,
- 11:33Speaker 1: the secretary told me it was your birthday, so please
- 11:37Speaker 1: please Big. I don't buy that for singing. Don't know
- 11:56Speaker 1: if you got any points kind of I'll give you
- 11:59Speaker 1: like imagine Okay, no, okay, I think I imaginary points
- 12:05Speaker 1: is not a face I got, you know, the awful
- 12:09Speaker 1: true the breakup suck. It's the relationship suck. That's it.
- 12:15Speaker 1: To vague entire series, I'm giving you imaginary points for this.
- 12:27Speaker 1: Um So obviously we got to see Big back into
- 12:31Speaker 1: the picture, slowly creeping in. This is always how it was.
- 12:35Speaker 1: Whether she's a simple phone call and it's just kind
- 12:37Speaker 1: of rekindles some things we see never get involved to
- 12:42Speaker 1: involved in other people's messes. Yeah, dirty talk can be
- 12:47Speaker 1: hilarious and it's gonna be effective, or can be effective.
- 12:51Speaker 1: Dogs don't replace relationships. I disagree. I guess it depends
- 12:56Speaker 1: on the dog. I guess my dog who I love
- 13:00Speaker 1: more than life and may accidentally call my partner by
- 13:02Speaker 1: my dog's name. True at um, let's not delve too
- 13:08Speaker 1: deeply into And Sam had to face the reality that
- 13:11Speaker 1: sex is important to her and if it's not good secks,
- 13:15Speaker 1: you don't want it and that's okay. Yeah yeah, oh,
- 13:20Speaker 1: I mean again, a lot of things are covered into
- 13:22Speaker 1: twenty two minute times. This is how it goes, this
- 13:26Speaker 1: is what we learned. Yeah. Yeah. I have a friend
- 13:32Speaker 1: who is currently trying to talk to her conservative parents
- 13:37Speaker 1: about homosexual relationships. Uh, and they're they're i think genuinely
- 13:42Speaker 1: like curious, but they're asking all these questions. And she
- 13:46Speaker 1: she would show me her text and be like, is
- 13:48Speaker 1: this the system concise? And one of the things she
- 13:50Speaker 1: said was like, sex isn't important to every relationship, but
- 13:55Speaker 1: for some relationships it is very important. And if you're
- 13:57Speaker 1: asking homosexual people of gay people of sex, and they do,
- 14:00Speaker 1: but they don't have feel like it was just this
- 14:02Speaker 1: very it was well thought out, but um, it's true
- 14:05Speaker 1: like for some people it's very important, for other people
- 14:09Speaker 1: not so much. But um it does the kind of
- 14:12Speaker 1: the trope of the therapist just you sit down for
- 14:17Speaker 1: ten minutes and they're like Okay, we're done. It does
- 14:21Speaker 1: crack me up. But yeah, and it's interesting to see
- 14:27Speaker 1: them because they're kind of all at different places. All
- 14:29Speaker 1: the characters right now are at different places in their relationships.
- 14:34Speaker 1: Because you know, Charlotte is definitely the one that wants
- 14:37Speaker 1: the I want to settle down and be married and
- 14:40Speaker 1: all that, and her kind of being like, I'll just
- 14:42Speaker 1: get to talk. She goes from very extremes. Yeah, and
- 14:46Speaker 1: that's fine, that's okay to um. But yeah, I find
- 14:50Speaker 1: it very interesting. I like the variations. And yeah, for
- 14:55Speaker 1: this is very sex positive, so it's more about yes,
- 14:58Speaker 1: getting good sex and knowing that you on it. Um,
- 15:01Speaker 1: we do need a flip where it's like, hello, producers
- 15:05Speaker 1: for the next season of just like that, put some
- 15:08Speaker 1: a sexual people in there, because that whole like intimacy
- 15:10Speaker 1: level is nice without the sex mm without intercourse specifically. Yeah. Yeah,
- 15:20Speaker 1: and I mean again, for when this was coming out,
- 15:24Speaker 1: I would I didn't want it when it came out,
- 15:26Speaker 1: but I would have been shocked to have seen it
- 15:27Speaker 1: because we didn't talk about this stuff. We would We
- 15:29Speaker 1: didn't have many sex positive characters who were women who
- 15:33Speaker 1: are right, No, I want sex and I want good
- 15:34Speaker 1: sex and that's okay, So that that's a pretty big deal. Um,
- 15:39Speaker 1: So I think that's important conversation to have, and I
- 15:41Speaker 1: think the opposite is also import conversation to have. But yeah,
- 15:44Speaker 1: and then the breakup and the rebounding a friend like
- 15:49Speaker 1: being the friend on the outside, like, no, don't do
- 15:51Speaker 1: it so much to it it's true. Oh no, but
- 15:58Speaker 1: I digress. Okay, Oh gosh, you're giving me like these teasers. Okay,
- 16:04Speaker 1: well that was episode two. How did you feel about it?
- 16:08Speaker 1: We didn't do a checkup on the last one. We
- 16:10Speaker 1: did well. We have a lot to say with Christina m.
- 16:14Speaker 1: I enjoyed it again. It just feels like I pack
- 16:17Speaker 1: a lot in and now all everything I'm thinking of
- 16:22Speaker 1: is a fun of sex. Fun. They do a lot
- 16:28Speaker 1: with every episode, and it's always fascinating to me how
- 16:32Speaker 1: it's still relevant conversations, even if it's moved forward in
- 16:36Speaker 1: a different way. We're still talking about this kind of stuff.
- 16:40Speaker 1: It's true. There, it is there, it is well. Listeners,
- 16:44Speaker 1: thank you for joining us as we restart this watch party.
- 16:50Speaker 1: We always love hearing from people about their thoughts. Even
- 16:52Speaker 1: if a lot of you write in you haven't watched
- 16:54Speaker 1: the show, either and you don't watch the show, you
- 16:56Speaker 1: just listen to these and I love that. That's fantastic.
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- 17:09Speaker 1: always to our super producer Christina. Thank you, Yes, even
- 17:13Speaker 1: though you embarrassed me last time. That's all right, um,
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