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🛳️ Below Deck Down Under’s Ellie vs. Chef Ben Blowup + 🥃 Southern Charm Reunion Part 2 · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

• 0:10
  Speaker 1: Drama, Darling.
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  Speaker 2: Drama, Darling Drama, Darling.
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  Speaker 3: Hello, everybody, welcome back in It's Drama Darling, and I
• 0:29
  Speaker 3: am Amy Phillips. Joining me today is the fabulous Deanna Chang.
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  Speaker 3: Hello Deanna, how are you?
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  Speaker 2: Oh Amy? I'm great, great to be with you. Good morning,
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  Speaker 2: Good mornting as so sad.
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  Speaker 1: As they do say.
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  Speaker 3: You know who was famous for that is Giselle And
• 0:44
  Speaker 3: we all know Giselle's podcast, remember Jesseelle's podcast Reasonably Shady.
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  Speaker 3: She's the only one on it anyway, that's a throwback
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  Speaker 3: to an earlier episode when I was slightly reasonably shady,
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  Speaker 3: leaving Robin out of the equation.
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  Speaker 1: I apologie, I apologize, Robin.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I've been sleeping during it, so we can't count.
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  Speaker 2: Even if she's there, she's resting. She uses all the
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  Speaker 2: opportunity that she has to be either on mic or
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  Speaker 2: on screen to take a load out.
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  Speaker 3: Who knew that on this day we would just pop
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  Speaker 3: in and just drag Robin like?
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  Speaker 1: Who knew it was?
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  Speaker 2: You know? Today?
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  Speaker 3: No one is safe? Okay, We're coming for you. No
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  Speaker 3: one is safe. And let it be said that my
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  Speaker 3: name is not honey or bunny.
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  Speaker 2: Don't call me honey, don't ever call me honey.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Elena. Okay, my name is Elena or Eric.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not bunny, I'm not anything.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, that's the energy we're coming in with today,
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  Speaker 3: So just don't sleep on your podcast.
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  Speaker 1: We aren't. Let's do this.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, here we are. We've got a lot to discuss.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to discuss a little bit of the last
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  Speaker 3: reunion of Southern Charm, and then we're gonna hang over
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  Speaker 3: to below deck down under, so everybody gather around. It's
• 2:03
  Speaker 3: gonna be a lot of stuff that's happening. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I can't leave.
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  Speaker 2: How dare you.
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  Speaker 1: Listen?
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  Speaker 3: Why don't we talk a little bit about Southern Charm?
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I just want to mention Southern Charm because
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to say that I felt like I feel
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  Speaker 3: like Craig really the most shocking thing is like he
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  Speaker 3: didn't watch the season, you know, and it's just a
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  Speaker 3: perfect example of how he is living in denial and
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  Speaker 3: not willing to look at himself. No one wants to
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  Speaker 3: watch a season when they're going to look bad, or
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  Speaker 3: if there's something on it that's going to make them
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  Speaker 3: say I'm going to need to change something. And I
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  Speaker 3: did appreciate at the end that Madison's like, I mean, Craig,
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  Speaker 3: you don't want to look maybe you should watch the
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  Speaker 3: season after her being the only person that had his back,
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  Speaker 3: which was very nice. But at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 3: let's not be codependent. You know, what were your thoughts
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  Speaker 3: about Craig in the reunion.
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  Speaker 2: It was fascinating to watch someone operate in the way
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  Speaker 2: he did, and you know, throughout that episode he was
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  Speaker 2: just like pulling people to the side and just being like, God,
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  Speaker 2: I was perfect up until that one moment. You know
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  Speaker 2: she's she's saying it's the bus ride, but like that
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  Speaker 2: wasn't anything. You know, he was just sort of trying
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  Speaker 2: to get people on his side and lay this groundwork
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  Speaker 2: that and Andy when he said that to him, was like,
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  Speaker 2: I mean he's such you know what a pro. He
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  Speaker 2: was just like pay interesting take. So I just found
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  Speaker 2: it like, God, that's a slippery, slippery type. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: it took an entire episode with all of these people
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  Speaker 2: constantly going at him for him to you know buckle
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  Speaker 2: a bit yeah and a little left down. Yeah. So
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  Speaker 2: that was my one thought, which was like it was
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  Speaker 2: fascinating to watch this type of person.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And the other thing that I just felt so strongly,
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  Speaker 2: which I really hadn't gotten until that episode, was Venita
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  Speaker 2: and Craig. What I understood finally was that he just
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  Speaker 2: has been like, there's never been I was going through
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  Speaker 2: my life and my friendships and people that as you do,
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  Speaker 2: I've had, as you do, like that I've had a
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  Speaker 2: problem with. Right, So I'm like, have I ever in
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  Speaker 2: my life has there been someone who does actively doesn't
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  Speaker 2: like me and I like them? Right? No, that's not
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  Speaker 2: a thing, right, So he has never and he said
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  Speaker 2: it several times in the episode, we don't like, I
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  Speaker 2: don't like you, right, Like I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know you. We don't know each other.
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  Speaker 2: We don't know each other. And what I really understood
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  Speaker 2: is like, and which I wish she had.
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  Speaker 1: Said, was why yeah, well m hmm.
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  Speaker 2: No, But this is from the beginning. This isn't about
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  Speaker 2: like he just has decided he doesn't like her. That's
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  Speaker 2: not about what he she said about his ex girlfriend
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  Speaker 2: or anything like that. He's just like, no, it's just
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  Speaker 2: like we've never he said it. We've I've you know,
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  Speaker 2: we've never been friends and it's like we're in a small.
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  Speaker 3: Why yeah, and why why why have you not decided
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  Speaker 3: taken time to get to know me, try to incorporate
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  Speaker 3: me into the group like you would any other other person.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't have the luxury of being on a
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  Speaker 2: cast and just being like I'm denying this rison access.
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  Speaker 2: Actually the general basic like how can they not move
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  Speaker 2: on already from this? Like that's what's so crazy to me.
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  Speaker 3: It's such a stupid argument at the end of the
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  Speaker 3: day that you can move on from.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, And I wish she had. She was so close
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  Speaker 2: to just being like why have you never given me
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  Speaker 2: a chance? Because that's the question? Yeah, you know that
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  Speaker 2: is really the question that is there, is like why
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  Speaker 2: am I not considered by you? And I thought she
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  Speaker 2: did a good job of saying, like I'm taking responsibility.
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  Speaker 2: Actually feel bad that I said that. I said that because, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I want to get back at you because you actively
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  Speaker 2: don't accept me on a TV show that we're both on,
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  Speaker 2: and you've never made an inroad towards me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and just and just putting a wall up and
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  Speaker 3: not even wanting to argue about it. That's why it's
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  Speaker 3: gone on for so long.
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  Speaker 1: We cannot move.
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  Speaker 3: No, we can't. And it's annoying as well. It's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: It's so uninteresting too, Like you could be fighting about
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  Speaker 3: something completely separate that would be more interesting for everyone
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  Speaker 3: and the show. If you could at least move on
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  Speaker 3: from this, maybe you could fight about something that's actually
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  Speaker 3: between you two instead of about other people.
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  Speaker 2: Right, And so I do feel like herb saying it plainly,
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  Speaker 2: there's no butt. I'm sorry for what I said. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he did seem to at the end find his way
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  Speaker 2: to something with her, you know, so I think that
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  Speaker 2: was some kind of movement, But I just overall, I'm
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  Speaker 2: just not impressed, Like, it's not cool. It's the worst
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  Speaker 2: feeling in the world. That is the worst feeling in
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  Speaker 2: the world, where someone just denies your existence essentially.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's the deepest insult.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's so immature of him to act like
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  Speaker 3: that when he is older, more situated on this show,
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  Speaker 3: more you know, more of a veteran. So yes, I
• 8:17
  Speaker 3: found that his It was interesting to hear him talk
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  Speaker 3: about like therapy and stuff like that. And look, he
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  Speaker 3: is a case study. Watching him as an absolute interesting
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  Speaker 3: journey to be on and who knows what I mean
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  Speaker 3: him in Austin talk about a toxic.
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  Speaker 1: Friendship, you know.
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  Speaker 3: I mean if they weren't on this show together, they
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  Speaker 3: would never be friends, right.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I think it would have been. They wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: have had to try and keep figuring it out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, what about when Charlie was like trying to argue, like, no,
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  Speaker 3: we weren't together. No, I didn't say that. And yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so they had two different stories, which is always strange
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  Speaker 3: to me. Which means somebody, Yeah, that means I'm with Charlie.
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  Speaker 2: She's on planet Earth. Sorry, she she is firmly, her
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  Speaker 2: feet are on the ground. He acted like an insane person,
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  Speaker 2: and she was like, yeah, I'm not interested anymore. It's
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  Speaker 2: very simple, very simple. They had a little something going on.
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  Speaker 2: They went on a few dates. He made it way
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  Speaker 2: more than it was because he's like a like a
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  Speaker 2: four year old when it comes to women. I believe
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  Speaker 2: her when she said she was on riot.
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  Speaker 1: I told him.
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  Speaker 3: I believe her when she said, he said, you can
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  Speaker 3: kiss me now if you want.
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  Speaker 2: Weird, it's arrogant, it's there.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think of I'd so turned off. Oh my gosh, gross,
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  Speaker 1: so gross.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't I would be stuck on stupid like.
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  Speaker 1: U, yeah, what.
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  Speaker 3: I'd been like, Okay, you can open the front door
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  Speaker 3: for me, because I'm going to be leading now.
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  Speaker 1: I'll do Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Austin and Sally, what do you think about Sally just
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  Speaker 3: really holding tight to wanting to be with Austin but
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  Speaker 3: really playing her cards the way that she thinks that
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  Speaker 3: he wants them to be played by, like not saying
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  Speaker 3: any much has happened. Still kind of his biggest fan.
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  Speaker 3: He I do appreciate him not telling the world about what,
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  Speaker 3: if anything happened between them, if they did, whatever is
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  Speaker 3: they did.
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  Speaker 1: I absolutely appreciate that.
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  Speaker 3: It's expected that a group of people on this show
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  Speaker 3: are going to be.
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  Speaker 1: Like, soya after don't lie about it.
• 10:47
  Speaker 3: It's like, okay, well, I mean, do you really think
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  Speaker 3: it's classy to say that you did.
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  Speaker 2: I have a little darker take on that, which is
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  Speaker 2: that I think he doesn't want to say it because
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't want his ax to hear it. That's really
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  Speaker 2: where his motivation is coming from.
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: You're right, Oh wow, you're right, of course.
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  Speaker 2: I mean maybe there's a little bit, but I think
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  Speaker 2: that's the genuine But I also.
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  Speaker 1: Don't think that's dark I think that's still respectful.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, do you he's well, I think that he's that
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  Speaker 2: kind of guy that like, now that she's gone, he
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  Speaker 2: misses her and he wants her back, but they would
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  Speaker 2: be in the same position that they would, you know,
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  Speaker 2: So what do I think? I think I'm not impressed.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I was so impressed and now I am not.
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  Speaker 1: I am not void. Did I just get turned around?
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that now it's just disgusting. It's not right.
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  Speaker 1: It's not right.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yeah, okay, Yeah, I mean I think
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  Speaker 2: he's also like knows Sally's so far gone that god damn.
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: I mean I did feel bad for her by the
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: end of the episode, between Vanita not wanting to take
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  Speaker 2: pictures with her and this guy not wanting to say
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: he like, you know, wants any girl.
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  Speaker 3: When you put it like that, that's bad.
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  Speaker 1: That's terrible. Yeah, that's bad.
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  Speaker 2: Charlie not you know, you know, it's just one after another.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, she can't. She can't catch a break at that reunion.
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  Speaker 3: So no, Well, it's over. Southern Charm is over, and
• 12:31
  Speaker 3: all our eyes are on Summer House. But now it's
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: time to move into below deck down under. Well, we
• 12:41
  Speaker 3: have got to talk about honey dolling booboo, sweetee pie
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  Speaker 3: and Ellie, who holy ship did she go off?
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  Speaker 2: Can ever call Elena?
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  Speaker 1: My name is Elena or Ellie. I'm not bunny, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not any.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, there's nothing better that I enjoyed that way too much. Look,
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  Speaker 3: I am not saying that she should have gone off
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  Speaker 3: like that. I do think she took it too far,
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  Speaker 3: for sure, but she was one hundred percent triggered over
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  Speaker 3: and over again. And did I get pleasure in watching
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  Speaker 3: her put him in his place? I mean, like, yes,
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  Speaker 3: that was so enjoyable. Oh my god. And his face
• 13:28
  Speaker 3: was like, oh, potatoes, skin, the potatoes, oh great, the
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: palmejan like he was shaking in his chef coat like
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  Speaker 3: we've never seen. Even when he said later like I've
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: think I met my match, I'm like, well, maybe I did.
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: Mohammad Ali, you know, and I've lost and I won.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that was watching them too. I'm like, this
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  Speaker 2: is some War of the Roses shit. This is shit
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  Speaker 2: that like, you make a move. This is the relationship
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  Speaker 2: dynamic that you can do fifteen years of a sickcommon.
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: You know, Like, my god, you are so right. It
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: is chemistry. Hire, it's chemist.
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  Speaker 2: Chemistry, you know. Wow wow wow. Yeah, they are equally
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  Speaker 2: matched in their I don't know, it's just electric.
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  Speaker 1: It is.
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  Speaker 3: I completely This is not a pattern that I live
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  Speaker 3: my life by anymore. But there are many times in
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  Speaker 3: my life where I have lived this way, similar to Ellie,
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  Speaker 3: in that I will let something build up and build
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  Speaker 3: up and build up, and like it's not the right
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  Speaker 3: time in place to bring it up. Yeah, and then
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  Speaker 3: once it's over, I am too weak my and scared
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  Speaker 3: or whatever the emotion is to bring it up at
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  Speaker 3: the right time and handle it in the appropriate way.
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  Speaker 3: So I have been absolutely in that place where I
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  Speaker 3: just let it all fester and then it's like boom explosions.
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  Speaker 3: It's just like fourth of July, you know. And it's
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  Speaker 3: not it's not a good feeling. I mean, it feels
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  Speaker 3: kind of good, you know, to get it all off
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  Speaker 3: your chest.
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  Speaker 1: It's like and.
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  Speaker 3: Another thing and another thing, you know, and it is
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  Speaker 3: has a bamboozling effect and a shock effect on the
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: other person, like you can't believe because they thought that
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  Speaker 3: you were totally fine.
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  Speaker 2: Right, They're looking at you and you're you seem right
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  Speaker 2: as red.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, yeah right, Yeah, no hint that you were
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  Speaker 3: bothered by honey or booboo, nothing, not one mention of it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but he pushed her to the to a point like
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  Speaker 3: I think she may have dealt with that for a
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: longer period of time if he hadn't screwed up in
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  Speaker 3: another department. But here's the thing. The honey, the booboo,
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  Speaker 3: the blah blah blah wasn't really the issue.
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  Speaker 1: It was the other issue.
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  Speaker 3: And that's it's always another issue that sets something off,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And that's that's how I've
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: learned as I've done the work on myself, what I've
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: learned is that you really just can't bury these things,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So if something happens, you
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  Speaker 3: can't bury those emotions. And it happened with me and
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: more of a toxic relationship where I had more fear
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  Speaker 3: of the other person. So that was a pattern in
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: which that the whole situation was was debunked, if you will.
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  Speaker 1: With Brett.
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  Speaker 3: I definitely brought in some of those patterns, but nowhere
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  Speaker 3: near to that degree. And his response would be like
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: where is this coming from?
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  Speaker 2: Like yeah, like there's no connective tissue.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like, what I thought that, Like, why didn't
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  Speaker 3: you something to me or whatever? I'm like, because this
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: and there's there's always reasons or excuses, and they're just excuses.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: And the bottom line is is that there can't be
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: any excuses.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: You either say it.
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  Speaker 3: Then or you or you get over it because it's
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: really not fair to anybody because you're kind of fucking
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: yourself too. So it's like, when I need something from Brett,
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: I don't hold back anymore, you know. And this is
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: something I figured out a long time ago, which is
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: a great thing, and it's still sometimes hard to do
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  Speaker 3: because I don't want to like ask something like and
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: then it ends up like, oh, I'm the hero, I'm
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: the saint because I do all of this blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 1: That's all bullshit. I don't want to be a saint
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: or a hero anymore, you know what I mean.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's instead of walking away from the kitchen
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: after I did all the dishes and I did the laundry,
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: and I did this, and I did that and I
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: did the other thing, and well, I'm gonna go in
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  Speaker 3: my room now because I'm tired, you know. And it's like,
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: oh no, nothing's wrong. You know, it's like, why, what's
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  Speaker 3: my problem? What am I holding on? Yah? It's going
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: to be giving me a crown for this behavior. Nobody's coming.
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  Speaker 2: And the other thing is like men don't pick up
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  Speaker 2: on them.
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  Speaker 1: They don't. They don't, Oh my god, do they not.
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  Speaker 2: Not even a little bit. So it's like you did
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  Speaker 2: a whole shebang. You did a whole performance that was.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: Not literally no audience, no, no, not received. And there's
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: not going to be a review, not even a bad review,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: No, they're just it's great.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: Nothing happened there, Nothing happened. And you know what, you
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: got to realize. This is what you realize.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: I'm no queen.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: So now it's.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: I know you're tired because you just got home from work,
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: but I really need you to please get Maddie's bath
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: going because I have eight hundred things I need to do,
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: you know. And and then instead of like feeling bad
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: that I'm because see I normally i'd be like I'd
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: feel bad because he just had a really busy day
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  Speaker 3: and like he's stressed out and he's got a a
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: hundred things to do, It's like, well I do too,
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  Speaker 3: And we're both busy people, so I just need to
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: communicate more.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: And once I unlocked that, oh yeah, yeah, what a
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: great life, you.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Know, cooking, Yeah, we're cooking.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: So anyway, her freak out was just a delight.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: And then it was like, now, let's try to pull back.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: But once you're there, you're gone and you can't pull back.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: She was so done. Yeah, baby, gone gone.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: I have a question for you because, as I told
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: you last night, I'm parachuting into below deck down. Yeah yeah, yeah,
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: my husband is actually watching, so like I've caught some
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: of it, but I haven't, you know how because to me,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: the idea of pairing now Ellie from my experience with her,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: and she is one of the most wild characters we've
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: ever had in our lives.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the idea.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Of her being an assistant chef is already feels wild.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: So how did we get there? Did she have?
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Like how did she know Alici, the girl Alicia with
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: the red lips who came in and yes, yeah, and Ellie's.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Like, I put them in a place for both of us.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: And so because Alicia was his sue chef before, okay,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: and she had to leave the situation because it was
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: such a toxic environment.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: So she gave her a little happy dance.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: And so then they brought Ellie and Elliet was supposed
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: to come in I think, to be a replacement for
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: a stew for interior, and then they moved her to
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: the Sue Sue chef and then Alicia took over on
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: the interior. So that's how they got her. She wasn't
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: originally supposed to be in there.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: You know, does she have any experience in the culinary world.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Well, if you saw from this episode, if you've seen
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: from others, you will have noticed that she's great in
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: the kitchen. She's an incredible worker's she grew up in
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: a bakery basically, like she spent a summer in a bakery.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: That's why she could make that wedding cake.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: I thought it was amazing. I just didn't know if
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: this was like on the job.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: No, it was.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: It is on the job training pretty much. She hasn't
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: been that that, but she's a really good worker and
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: she knows how to do things at an expedient pace
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: and do what but him being like the all the
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: balls now, like, oh baby, you know, I started to think,
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: like did the producers tell him it's really irritating her
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: that you're calling her honey and sweetie. So we think
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: there might be something there that you got we could
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: get out of it because he's really doing it like
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: a lot, And so I was thinking would they have
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: done that? But then he didn't know how bad it
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: actually was. I don't think he knew what he was
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: going to be delivered now, you know what? Someone like
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: him and he is a piece of work. Yeah, okay,
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: I have We've talked about this before. I worked in
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: restaurants a really long time. The craziest I've ever been
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: in my life is with chefs Y. We both worked
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: in restaurants and we both have that in common. And
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: we're not going to speak for all of them, but
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: the ones, the experience that we've had, they've all been insane, crazy, mad, angry.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and like it doesn't mesh with my personality, Like
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: it it evokes in me something that is so combative
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: and not unlike what we saw with Elly. Uh, you know,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: it just maybe delivered differently, but like it evokes fury,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: like it's just not a match. It's like whatever that is,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: it ain't for me, you know. Like no, and I
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: think he's so tricky and arrogant and also can be
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: funny and cool, but like and talented. But you know
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: that that that woof? I mean just I did die
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: that He after that, he said, I am. And he's
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: making eggs that are literally dripping with water. You know,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: he's his eggs are showing what his body and mind
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: are feeling. Like it gets coming out in a scrambled egg.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Yes it is. You're right. That's how chefs cry.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Ye.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Daisy's like, I don't know what the fuck is going
• 23:35
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• 23:37
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  Speaker 1: Daisy was hilarious.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Oh my god. I mean, I do feel like she
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: handled it well. She came in at the right time
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: and was like, Okay, oh, we're gonna need.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: You to leave now.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: She's like, I'm in charge.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she did great job and then also had to Yeah.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: And she's really cool under pressure. And I did appreciate
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: her being in the cabin with Ellie and being.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Like, you consolve anything by losing your temper.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: I thought when he said, I'm actually getting intimidated by
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: you right now. Right before he said that, I thought,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: is she going to hit him?
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Wow?
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: I actually wondered that. I'm like, she's getting real close. Yeah,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: and she has I'm gonna haul off.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: On she has that energy, yeah for sure.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, and and look she's seen and live some things,
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: so I get, I get, but she needs to uh
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: get into some good.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: They both need therapy.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna just point it at Ellie, I mean clearly,
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: like but to have a trigger point, you know, we
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: all have them, we all have them. But I actually
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: did not really hear or understand the thing that she
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: was the most upset about, did you, because it wasn't
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: the honey the sweetie stuff is what she like, you know,
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: popped off on. But when she was like, I won't
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: have you speaking to me like that way, never ever,
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: ever ever, and He's like, what did I'll do baby like?
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: And so it must have been something else that had
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: to do with like the cooking, because later on she
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: explained if we if I would have known, I could
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: have prioritized because I think she said, like, I would
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: have prioritized this instead of that, right, And then he
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: said something.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: No, I'm just I'm sorry, I'm like dying of this
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: dynamic is just he it's so funny.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: It was a matter of time, I mean.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: And then chef, I mean the captain sort of lurking
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: about trying to get an eye on things, him needing
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: to go get Eminem's you know, after and just like
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: get back to one, you know, like could the regular
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: he had to regulate. He was like, give me a.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Handful when he kept sneaking around the corner, like making
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: sure everything goes okay. That's how I felt when Maddie's
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: like has a friend over and they're not getting along,
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: or like they're on a FaceTime and they're not getting
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: along because they're gaming, and I'm like, I'm outside the door,
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: going all right, when do I step in? Yeah, see
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: if they figure this out. Let's see if they figure
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: this out. Okay, I'm gonna have to go in, you.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Know, yeah, Oh my god. It was delightful to see
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: him Chef Ben so rattled and so unsettled. Listen was
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: the right time and place moments before dinner service. That
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: was really hard.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: And she's not experienced in the kitchen, so that takes
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: it to a whole different level, Like you don't even
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: know better at that point to bury it until after
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: third course is out, like even second course, so she
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: doesn't even know.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: And he's like, we don't do this, baby, we throw
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: the pulse after we sove you know, like.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: I think about I'm sorry, I don't mean to put
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: you off, but I'm before I forget. I wonder how
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: triggered he must have been, because he has he's been
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: physically abused in the kitchen, so with her popping off
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: on him like that, and it probably triggered his past.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: And when he got a fucking hot pot thrown at
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: his skull, Remember he's talked about that. Oh so now
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: that I'm thinking about him and I'm laughing, But I
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: didn't really think about that at all until right now.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: And I mean that's not cool either. I mean, we
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: don't want to hurt each other or bring up abuse.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: But what I see when I pull back, I see
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: two people who have been abused like right, and have
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: had really hard lives, so you see their issues coming forward.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: It's amazing that this is even on reality television because
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: that puts a whole other element to it. And they're
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: not even really performing. That's the other thing.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: No, no, ma'am, No, that was as honest as could be.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: And what also made it feel like the stuff that
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: like a you know, long running sitcom is made of.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: And I'm not to you know, I think your points
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: are very valid. And then that's where we saw the
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: running eggs and the you know, he was, he was
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: he thought she was going to hit him. I do
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: believe that.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: I do now that. Yeah, I think you're right.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: But then when they had to do their recovery work,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: the next recovery work, No, that was some of that
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: was the funniest I've ever seen in my life. Like
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: he was gassing her up.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: But I thought that was really good.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, you know what, guess what it worked.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: He had to he had to sit with self that night,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: crisscross apple sauce and figure out how to proceed because
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: this girl, no one, no one has gotten him sorted
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: like this girl.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Has ever ever.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: I mean like he hasn't been in that situation since
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: his early days of being a sous chef himself, right
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: thirty years probably.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Probably since someone put him on his heels in such
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: a fashion. So he just really regrouped.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: You know, when she killed with kindness, kinds worked and
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: she had something that she ps it worked, she did
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: something she loved with that cake gorgeous and you know what,
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: it's a beautiful thing. Food can bring people together. Work
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: and a craft, anything with your hands, you know, Yes,
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: it can fix the mind by doing something, And when
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: she showed up in that Kitchendiana and she was like,
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: put me to work.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: What can I do?
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: It was like, you know, punching in, but it was
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: more like an army. Uh huh, Like which weapon do you.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Want me to halt?
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: It was like, shit, she's ready to fight. But she's ready,
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: She's gonna show up. And it's such an insult to
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: her because she takes work so seriously and with so
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: much respect. Like when Ben was going to bring in
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Mike or whatever to Joao to bring in the rotation
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: of plates and she's like.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: That just my job. I won't have it. I was
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: like holy.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: He was like, ah right, baby, I mean ally, uh right,
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: just rotate that.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, my god, you know it did.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it did have a color. It's like you can't
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: say these words are ingrained in his body. These it's
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: part of how he Those are his eminem's, you know,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: like saying sweetie baby, sugar pie. That's how he gets through.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: It's a vibe. I don't mind it personally. I would
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: probably probably work on me and it would work for me.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: So he's also having to it's almost like saying you
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: can't use the word uh you know, right, yeah, do
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: your service. Cook. You can't say the word cook. You
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: can't say food. You can't save knife, right now, go ahead, now,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: go ahead and do your job. So he's also having
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: a oh my work, use this harder than he's ever
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: had to. They may end up together, Amy, I mean
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: they may well.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know. If they could end up together, they
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: would kill each other.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: I do know, they may be the best thing that's
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: ever happened to each other, because they may figure things
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: out together. Like I know, he will spend months laying
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: in bed thinking about her period. This will be a
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: long time before he releases. And I think there was
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: a part of him that was turned on I do,
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: I do, Yeah, for sure.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: I mean she's a beautiful woman, so I mean that's
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: also I mean it's like a dominatrix. She basically comes
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: into the kitchen like a dominatrix.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it may have activated a fetish for him something
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: some you know, a latent.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: Now let's get back to the darling sweete thing, because
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: I just want to mention that it it's interesting that
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: at this point in the world where we are with
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: me too, and I know that essay is completely different
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: than these pet names. However, women don't want to be
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: spoken to like that anymore. Like even back in the
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: fucking eighties, we had our shoulder pads on and we're like,
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: don't call me dolly, you know, like we we've made strides.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: So here he is in the kitchen and I know
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: it's a different type of business, but he doesn't know
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: to start lightening up on these pet names like come on.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: And then to your point, it wouldn't be triggering to me, no,
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: like it would be for her.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: But I get why it would be for most women,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: and it should be sure.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: It's like listen, it depends who's saying it. But that
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: all like, yes, as I said, it would.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Work for me, but like I would, I would work harder.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: I mean no, I mean I probably would. No, I
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: probably it would work for me. From him, why, I
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: don't know, you know it. But all in it is
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: an important lesson for him because it isn't the time,
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: it isn't the place.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: You have to get a handle on that, and it
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: is like breathing for him. And this is where men
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: get real confused, because they have to pivot out of
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: behavior that is ingrained. Yes, and it's hard.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: Now, if he were the Sioux chef and she were
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: the chef, he couldn't speak to her like that.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Right, No, no.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Now what if she was speaking to him like that?
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Listen, these are hypotheticals that I can't figure out.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Well, you're gonna happen. You're gonna have to today. It
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: is happening. Hold on, okay, you be you be Ben Okay, okay,
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: I'll just do Austin Powers Okay. Okay, are you are
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: you slicing the onions?
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Honey?
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Sorry, I forgot to say this. I forgot to say
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: the pet name. See, I'm not used to it. It's
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: so not normal for women.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, right, honey.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Baby, sweet hot sweet cheeks? Are you are you? Are
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: you caught in the onions? Yeah?
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Doland, I am. So.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: They just talk back and forth like.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Just I tried to bring it down a notch, but
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: just also like, okay, let me try it one more time.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: I think you kind of nailed it.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: It was very un Okay, it was understated, you know. Yeah, yeah,
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: but that would be weird because she wouldn't do that, right.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: No, it's it's a time and a place, you know
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: that listen, an older woman can honey, sweetie pie, sugar
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: baby me up as much as they want. It is
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: site specific, it's person specific. But as a general rule,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: if you can't manage it, which I don't think he can,
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: you're going to have a problem working in twenty twenty six.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, even on a yacht, Even on a yacht where
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: everybody's f and each other in the right in the
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: anchor locker, in the anchor locker anyway, what a what
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: a delight. And then you've got the captain who's he's
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: not coming and strong at all. I mean, he left
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: the room for them to do their recovery work. That's
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: not a good idea. He needed to stay there.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: I mean he.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: I think that was he's an excellent manager. I do
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: think the captain is, I really do. I do. I
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: think he had to see if they First of all,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: he doesn't want to he can't lose him, no, and
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: he doesn't want to lose her because she has a
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: legitimate ripe. Yeah, so he had to see, can you
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: get your shit together? And I do think he needed
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: to let them try it. I mean maybe he had
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: one ear, you.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Know, Oh he's standing right by.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But I think once he heard all the pleasantries
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: and the gassing up and all that, he probably said.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's time for them to go work things out.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Whatever you do is going to have hurdles. Hudles. That
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: was a hoidle.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: That was a big hurdle. All right.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean below deck, other than the galley being
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: the most intense place in the world, Mike is just
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: running around. He's doing a good job, then he's not
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: doing a good job, and then he is just he's
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: such a little gossip you know what I mean, Like
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: he just loves to just just.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Spin some tails.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: And Daisy's great, of course, the guests and the wedding
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: super cute.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Sweet, Okay, really sweet. I want to just say crazy day,
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: and I will just say that those pancoke to give
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: it to Ben as we leave the panco crusted baby eggplant.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: Holy shit, Sleigh, sleigh, sleigh. He did a great job.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: That thing looks insane, insane. The Mahima he looked amazing too.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: He makes a pretty plate, Yeah he does. Yeah, So Deanna,
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: thank you so much for joining. Where can everyone find you?
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Where can the darlings find it?
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• 40:40
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• 40:43
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• 40:47
  Speaker 2: find me over there.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: Yes, all right, Dana, thank you so much. What a
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: very interesting day we've had, powerful, powerful day, historic, Bye
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: for now, ye.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Drama Darling, Drama Darling.
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