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Roses for Ratings (Q&A) · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, guys. Welcome to another episode of the Almost Famous Podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Ben and I are doing a fun little one today
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  Speaker 2: where we're doing fan questions. And I just thought of
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  Speaker 2: a question that I have for you, Ben. Since I, quote,
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  Speaker 2: own a coffee shop, even though I have absolutely nothing
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  Speaker 2: to do with the day-to-day or really anything.
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  Speaker 3: You just pushed. You just placed a huge order today,
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  Speaker 3: by the way.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure we did. That's awesome. And you own
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  Speaker 2: a coffee company. I was thinking, what? How do you
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  Speaker 2: make your own coffee at home? Like, what brand do
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  Speaker 2: you use? I mean, I know you use Generous.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean, like, what coffee maker?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, sure. Well, I like a good French press or
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  Speaker 3: pour over. There's a many mornings where I just use
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  Speaker 3: like the old school coffee maker. I mean, like I'm
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  Speaker 3: not against it. I think it makes a great cup
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  Speaker 3: of coffee. Here's the interesting thing. I used to really
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  Speaker 3: love a vanilla latte. Uh, but after being in the
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  Speaker 3: coffee world and traveling to the farms, seeing the work
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  Speaker 3: that is put into each cup of coffee that we consume,
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  Speaker 3: I drink it straight with nothing at it.
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  Speaker 2: Um, Now you just drink black.
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  Speaker 3: Just black. And I love it. It's great.
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  Speaker 2: Why did seeing the effort make you go black.
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  Speaker 3: No cream sugar? Yeah, great question. Well, one, every bean
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  Speaker 3: is picked by hand when it's specialty coffee. So you
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  Speaker 3: have people climbing up and down the side of a mountain,
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  Speaker 3: usually family members or people from the local community. that
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  Speaker 3: get brought in during harvest season, but they're like climbing
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  Speaker 3: up and down these mountains with like a hundred pounds
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  Speaker 3: of coffee on their back, picking each bean by hand.
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  Speaker 3: Then you see the process of them scattering it out,
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  Speaker 3: drying it out, then re packaging it into the bags
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  Speaker 3: that end up showing up to generous or to whatever
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  Speaker 3: roaster you consume. I hope it's generous. And so I
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  Speaker 3: think it was just this, I think when you see
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  Speaker 3: the art behind it and the, time into it. I
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  Speaker 3: don't want to dilute, not that that's bad because I
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  Speaker 3: know like producers who are growing and harvesting the coffee
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  Speaker 3: that will add sugar or milk to their coffee. That's
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  Speaker 3: not like a, a frowned upon thing. But I think
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  Speaker 3: for me, I came back and said, I want to
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  Speaker 3: like taste the coffee in its purest form as like a,
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  Speaker 3: as like a little bit of a like ode to
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  Speaker 3: the work put into it.
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  Speaker 2: That's really sweet. Now, as you've developed that taste, do
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  Speaker 2: you prefer it black or do you just still drink
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  Speaker 2: it for the purity sake?
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  Speaker 3: I don't really like cream or sugar in it. Also,
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  Speaker 3: there's a health side to that. Like it's just extra calories.
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  Speaker 3: Not that I'm counting calories, but it is, you know,
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  Speaker 3: one of the sneaky ways to get out of shape
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  Speaker 3: is to drink a lot of sugar in the course
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  Speaker 3: of a day. And it's really easy to do, right?
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  Speaker 3: Like juices, sodas. adding you know sugar to your coffee
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  Speaker 3: you're just consuming sugar all day long so it's one
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  Speaker 3: easy way for me to cut out that uh i'm
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  Speaker 3: not like goodness i'm not a health nut by any
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  Speaker 3: means but that was it is one idea i don't
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  Speaker 3: love the idea like the idea of waking up in
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  Speaker 3: the morning and having uh sugar i guess uh but
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  Speaker 3: it's also i like bourbon so i like the like
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  Speaker 3: kick like it kind of You know, I like the bitterness.
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  Speaker 3: I like the the the kick in the morning. I
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  Speaker 3: like spicy things like I like things that like wake
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  Speaker 3: up my palate.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: What about you? I mean, you obviously are you do
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  Speaker 3: own a coffee shop, one of America's best. But you're
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  Speaker 3: probably in there quite a bit. What is your go to?
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  Speaker 2: Well, what's funny is like one of the questions that
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  Speaker 2: we got sent from one of our listeners via social
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  Speaker 2: media is what kind of coffee do you guys drink? Like,
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  Speaker 2: are you into seasonal drinks? And of course, I love
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  Speaker 2: a pumpkin spice latte. What's funny is that like pumpkin
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  Speaker 2: spice can either taste in like the same sip, taste
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  Speaker 2: absolutely delicious and also taste kind of like throw up.
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  Speaker 3: Interesting to you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I don't know if this is specific
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  Speaker 2: to me.
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  Speaker 3: No, I get it. I get what you're saying.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like it can almost taste like white your mouth. Like, yeah, disgusting.
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  Speaker 2: But like, why is it so good? Yet also seems like,
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  Speaker 2: is it so good at the same time? I do
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  Speaker 2: like pumpkin spice in the fall. I do not like fall.
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  Speaker 2: It is the one thing about fall that I like
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  Speaker 2: is just, it's truly a brisk fall morning with a
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  Speaker 2: pumpkin spice flavored coffee. That is the only ounce of
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  Speaker 2: fall that I enjoy. Um, then I, but I'm basic. I,
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  Speaker 2: I asked you the question because we just got an
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  Speaker 2: espresso and I mean like truly, wow, what a basic
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  Speaker 2: biatch I am. But I posted on Instagram a couple
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  Speaker 2: of weeks ago. I was like, Hey, um, there's like
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  Speaker 2: something about my Keurig, which is like grossing me. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I just don't look forward to my morning coffee with
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  Speaker 2: the Keurig anymore. What do you guys suggest? And half
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  Speaker 2: the people. hundreds of people said, get an espresso. And
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  Speaker 2: my sister like called me immediately after seeing the post.
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  Speaker 2: And she was like, you need to get an espresso.
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  Speaker 2: Got an espresso. I know it's basic, but solved my problems.
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  Speaker 2: I enjoy my at-home cup of coffee now again.
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  Speaker 3: But it's not generous. So you don't find that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry.
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  Speaker 3: A little bit offensive to me.
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  Speaker 2: Not a little bit because we buy plenty of generous
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  Speaker 2: for the coffee shop. You do that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you make up for it there. Yeah, I think
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  Speaker 3: Nespresso does a great job.
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  Speaker 2: Ben, I don't like the drip coffee from home anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Like the pot, like a pot of coffee. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know whether it's my maker or not, but Jared and
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  Speaker 2: I used to make delicious just pots of old fashioned coffee.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know what happened to the maker or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Or if it's a different one, it's just not yummy
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  Speaker 2: from the pot. It tastes like soap to me or something.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you probably are washing it with soap and not
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  Speaker 3: getting all the soap out. It must be deep in there.
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  Speaker 3: Were you brewing generous at home?
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  Speaker 2: No, because I just want, like, I was doing, we
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't grind the things. We would barely ever make a pot.
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  Speaker 2: This is like years ago.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you do make up for it. We can go, go.
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  Speaker 2: Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you make up for it in your purchasing for Audrey's,
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  Speaker 3: and I appreciate that. I would say everybody out there,
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  Speaker 3: consider serving generous at your home. That would be a
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  Speaker 3: big win for all of us.
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  Speaker 2: You need to make.
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  Speaker 3: You know what we're supporting right now? No, I don't.
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  Speaker 3: There's this really cool organization in Indiana that's getting beds
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  Speaker 3: for kids that have grown up without a bed. So
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  Speaker 3: they're making sure that they like have a comfy bed
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  Speaker 3: to sleep in with blankets and stuff for the winter, especially.
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  Speaker 3: You'd be amazed at how many kids go without having
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  Speaker 3: a bed to sleep on in their home. And so
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  Speaker 3: this is the organization we're supporting right now. So this
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  Speaker 3: holiday season, if you want to go support something good,
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  Speaker 3: go buy some generous for you and your friends. Ashley,
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  Speaker 3: this is an episode where we're answering listener questions. Um,
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  Speaker 3: if you want to ask us a question for the future, uh,
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  Speaker 3: go to and message us at the almost underscore famous podcast,
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  Speaker 3: or leave us a message at eight, four, four, five. Almost.
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  Speaker 3: We want to answer anything. Uh, this question is from
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  Speaker 3: D guard child. One, two, eight, three.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Ashley, you ready?
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Can we talk about the latest unfair dancing with the
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  Speaker 3: stars elimination?
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  Speaker 2: Do you know what she's referring to?
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  Speaker 3: Taylor Hanson has to be. And his partner, Britt, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So Taylor and Britt got higher scores than Guillermo, which is,
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  Speaker 2: you guys know Guillermo from Jimmy Kimmel. So this happens
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  Speaker 2: frequently in Dancing with the Stars. Taylor, I mean, obviously
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  Speaker 2: wasn't one of the greatest dancers of that celebrity group,
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  Speaker 2: but people will say that he should have gotten especially Britt, too.
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  Speaker 2: People really love Britt and think that she's been screwed
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  Speaker 2: over the past couple of seasons and like she hasn't
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  Speaker 2: had her shining star moment, but she's considered a leader
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  Speaker 2: amongst a lot of the dancers. So they got eliminated
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  Speaker 2: this week, even though their scores were better than Guillermo's.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean, like, I get it. It's obviously unfair,
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  Speaker 2: but like it's kind of like part reality show, part like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, fan favorite situation. I don't know. Like, remember
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  Speaker 2: when Andy Richter got so far?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but fan favorite feels weird because I think Taylor
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  Speaker 3: Hanson would be a fan favorite.
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  Speaker 2: It has more fans than Guillermo. Yeah, I mean, like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't get it. Obviously, you're talking to a fanson
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  Speaker 2: right now. I wish I could. Taylor just, like, seemed
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  Speaker 2: to have gotten so emotionally invested. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Britt has fans. Like, you would think that. Okay, I
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  Speaker 3: would understand if they didn't win the whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: It's just odd that they got eliminated so early when
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  Speaker 3: you're looking at, when you compare everybody side by side.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that Taylor was going to go really
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  Speaker 2: far because fans are really crazy. Like I could see
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  Speaker 2: really hardcore fans that have followed them for the past
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  Speaker 2: 30 years, like actual fans. being on the phones, just insane,
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  Speaker 2: insane amounts. Um, I can't say that I understand it
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  Speaker 2: with the stars. Like the reason that I never got
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  Speaker 2: into it is because I feel like when I watch
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  Speaker 2: people dance, I'm either, I'm impressed by all of it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I agree.
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  Speaker 2: I am so bad at dancing that if you can
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  Speaker 2: memorize a dance and then perform it in front of
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  Speaker 2: millions of people and look pretty decent doing it, I
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  Speaker 2: am like, wow, eights at least. When they give fives,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, that was a five? I would have zeros
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  Speaker 2: on the show. I would get zeros. I am so
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  Speaker 2: bad at dancing, and everything that I've ever seen on
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  Speaker 2: Dancing with the Stars looks good to me, looks nice.
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  Speaker 2: I can tell when it's like an, a wowie zowie.
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  Speaker 2: But for the most part, I just think everybody looks
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  Speaker 2: like they're doing a good job. I'm just not a
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  Speaker 2: dance critic. When it comes to music, like American Idol,
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  Speaker 2: I know what sounds good to my ears and what doesn't. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But dancing, it all looks pretty nice to me.
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  Speaker 3: It's funny. I was on social media this week prepping
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  Speaker 3: for this and reading some of the criticisms. Each person's dance,
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  Speaker 3: like the whole, you know, every time somebody dances, everybody
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  Speaker 3: gets on, especially X and kind of comments on it.
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  Speaker 3: And I found it wild, wild how we're criticizing these
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  Speaker 3: celebrities like they're professional dancers.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't even know what I was looking at.
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  Speaker 3: One of the people's comments were like, look at this dance.
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  Speaker 3: It's pretty much like it was so bad. Look at
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  Speaker 3: the two step or whatever. And I'm watching, I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm with you. I was like, that looked awesome. Like
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  Speaker 3: that was so much better than I could do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Seriously. Seriously. I can't even express how crappy I
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  Speaker 2: would be.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think there's a collusion on Dancing with the Stars?
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  Speaker 2: That's what people say. There's rumors about this. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I guess there's always going to be rumors when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to Dancing with the Stars and American Idol and
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  Speaker 2: Voice and such where it's like how much vote really counts.
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  Speaker 2: I would like to think it's all legit.
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  Speaker 3: It kind of has to be, right? It's a game show.
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  Speaker 3: It's in the game show category so there's There's legislation
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  Speaker 3: that makes it fair that it has to be at least,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the algorithm has to be presented in some way.
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  Speaker 3: I know there is no prize money, so maybe that
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  Speaker 3: is a way to get around it. But in a
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  Speaker 3: lot of ways, you could argue there is prize money
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  Speaker 3: because the longer you're on the season, the more you
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  Speaker 3: get paid.
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  Speaker 2: That's true. With American Idol, not to keep comparing, but
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  Speaker 2: that was all fan votes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Not any judge votes. there was like no judge votes
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  Speaker 2: and the voting times were a lot longer.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: How did they make that fair on dancing with the stars?
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  Speaker 2: Like everybody has the same amount. Does everybody have the
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  Speaker 2: same amount of voting time? I guess so.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would guess so. You know, what's going to
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  Speaker 3: be interesting to me. We're obviously coming up on in
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  Speaker 3: November to the midterm elections. You know, there's probably some
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  Speaker 3: big races going on in your local area. Uh, I'd
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  Speaker 3: be curious to see the numbers side by side on
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  Speaker 3: once the midterms come out, who voted, like who had
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  Speaker 3: received more votes, dance with the stars or like our
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  Speaker 3: political system.
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  Speaker 2: American Idol, again, not to bring it up, used to
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  Speaker 2: definitely bring in more votes, but then again, one person
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  Speaker 2: could vote a bajillion times with American Idol. Like I
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  Speaker 2: used to be on the phone for American Idol for
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  Speaker 2: legitimately two full hours. Cause you were allowed to do
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  Speaker 2: it for two full hours. And I would, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: this is who I am. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: As an obsessive person. And I would be on the
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  Speaker 2: phone and I would tally how many times I got through. Because, like,
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  Speaker 2: sometimes you wouldn't get through. And it was always concerning
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  Speaker 2: when you got through too many times.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, wait. Did you find this a worthy pursuit?
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  Speaker 2: I loved it. I was fully fulfilled by it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Two hours just voting. And thank you. Thanks for voting
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  Speaker 2: for me. Blake. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then
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  Speaker 2: again and again and again. I think I got, like,
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  Speaker 2: it was about, like, 100 times. I got about 50
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  Speaker 2: an hour.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, Ashley, just being in the same house as you
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  Speaker 3: for a week would be so funny.
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  Speaker 2: I wish it was like this still. You know, I can't, like,
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  Speaker 2: be fully as obsessive anymore. Nor do I find, like,
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  Speaker 2: I have obsessiveness.
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  Speaker 3: You feel like a piece of your heart is missing?
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  Speaker 2: I just, you know.
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  Speaker 1: No. No.
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  Speaker 2: But it's funny, like, what I used to do. It's
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  Speaker 2: not really funny. I totally get it.
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  Speaker 3: Next question is from Katie Wilk, 16. How did the
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  Speaker 3: two of you end up hosting together? She says, love
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  Speaker 3: your banter. That's sweet.
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  Speaker 2: So sweet. We ended up hosting together because Amy Sugarman,
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  Speaker 2: our wonderful executive producer over here.
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  Speaker 3: She's like the Andy Cohen of. pop culture.
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  Speaker 4: She is the andy cohen of iheart yes except.
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  Speaker 3: She shows up less like we don't ever like you never.
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  Speaker 4: See her that's because she doesn't fly anywhere amy's like
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  Speaker 4: oh you come join us and do these fun things
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  Speaker 4: it's like only in la or san francisco or tahoe
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  Speaker 4: because guys amy doesn't fly she hasn't flown since 1999.
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  Speaker 2: I can't believe that woman hasn't been to new york
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  Speaker 2: since 1999 that's wild um So we love Amy so
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  Speaker 2: much and she put us together. She just thought that
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  Speaker 2: we would have a good silly dynamic where it's like I, Ashley, fangirl,
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  Speaker 2: somehow ended up on her favorite show with Mr. You know,
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  Speaker 2: the perfect Ben and lead of the show. More serious,
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  Speaker 2: very gentlemanly with like this absolute hee hee hee in me.
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  Speaker 3: It was fun. I mean, you know, there is a
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  Speaker 3: backstory to it. So I had gotten off of... What
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  Speaker 3: was the show called? With Lauren and I.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Happily Ever After?
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  Speaker 3: Happily Ever After, question mark. And because of that show,
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't do the Dancing with the Stars. It was
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  Speaker 3: same time, right after the filming of The Bachelor. I
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  Speaker 3: don't really know the behind the scenes of how they
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  Speaker 3: chose what I did and not do. But after Happily
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  Speaker 3: Ever After, it was.
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  Speaker 3: The week that we announced our breakup, it actually might
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  Speaker 3: have been day of.
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  Speaker 2: It was so awkward, Ben. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Amy calls me because she had originally set up this
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  Speaker 3: show for Chris Harrison. It was Chris was going to
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  Speaker 3: host it and they had it all planned out. But
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  Speaker 3: then he was still hosting The Bachelor at the time.
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  Speaker 3: The Bachelor came and said, hey, you can't be like
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  Speaker 3: the behind the scenes guy when you know everything behind
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  Speaker 3: the scenes. This doesn't make sense. And I think it
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  Speaker 3: was one of those mutually agreed upon, yeah, it doesn't
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  Speaker 3: make sense for you to host this show. So Amy
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  Speaker 3: was looking for a host. Now, flashback a little bit
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  Speaker 3: to how I know I got the role. I was
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  Speaker 3: in Vegas right after I was The Bachelor. JoJo's Season
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  Speaker 3: was airing on television. iHeart was doing a big panel
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  Speaker 3: with a lot of the contestants from JoJo's Season. They
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  Speaker 3: got clearance to do these interviews. While the season was airing,
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  Speaker 3: it was going to be a lot of fun. And
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  Speaker 3: a friend of mine was going to host that panel
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  Speaker 3: for iHeart. The friend ended up not feeling well and
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: not being able to get out of bed. And so
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: everybody shows up to the panel. He has to bow
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: out last minute. Everybody's sitting in the green room to
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: walk out to the audience. And I'm in there and
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Amy looks at me and she says, we need a host. Ben,
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: can you host this?
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: A friend of yours, part of the show?
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: Part of the show I'm not gonna out him on this.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: I feel like I may have an idea who it is.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: And so I said yeah I can host this I
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: don't know what we're hosting but yes I can ask
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: the questions to these guys because I was just there
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: kind of to hang out I wasn't even on the
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: panel I was just it was going to be a
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: JoJo season panel I said that's great I'll do that
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: we step up we have a great time I walk
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: off stage and Amy tells me hey I had this
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: show for Chris Harrison we still want to do it
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: would you want to co-host this with Ashley. And I said,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: I would love to host with Ashley. I didn't know
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: you very well at the time.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: I still fangirled over Ben. I was like, what?
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Me?
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: I was nervous to talk to Ashley.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Because you're a big deal.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: The least nerve-wracking person to ever be around.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Well, I think after 11 years, I would agree.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: He's like, maybe after 11 minutes, I would have agreed.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: But our first episode was us talking about the breakup.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: And it was a very like sensitive, emotional time for me.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: There was still a lot that I was processing. I
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: just need, I wanted this job. And so Amy was like,
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: you need to talk about it. And I'm like, I
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: don't want to talk about it. Like, it doesn't make
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: sense if you don't, I don't know if it was
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: a good decision or bad. I look back and like,
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: that was such a brutal couple of weeks. But the
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: funny part to finish this thought is Ashley and myself
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: we used to do this whole show by calling each
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: other and three-waying in iHeart. We used to do this
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: whole thing over the phone. It was a big step
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: for us to end up, one, getting in person in LA.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: You used to. I used to be in the audience.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, because you were in LA at the time.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: And you would call in. And then I would three-way in. Yeah.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: And then every once in a while, I could show
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: up to LA and do it in person. Those are
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: always some of my favorite times. They still are my favorite, really.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're so fun. I miss the studio.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: But then COVID happened and Zoom obviously took over. But
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: a lot of things have changed. I will say this.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: I'm proud of this, Ashley. We are the first podcast
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: to really take off underneath the iHeart umbrella. They obviously
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: acquired some other companies along the way.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: I feel cool about that, too.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we were the, like, pioneers.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: I know. We were the pioneers under Amy's, like, pop
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: culture umbrella. Well, I mean, I guess there's a zillion
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: pop culture umbrellas, but there's a lot under Amy's that
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: you know. And now the Jonas podcast is, so I
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: just feel pretty cool about that.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Yes, so we were paired up by Amy, and we
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: are forever grateful for.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: And if you love our banter, I do think it's
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: because I really love Ashley. It is fun for me
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: to talk to her.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: It is so fun. I noticed a couple years in,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: I was like, wait a second. Ben is one of
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: my best friends.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I would call Ashley about a lot of things
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: that I needed to talk to her about.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Same. Really. It's like me, when I need some advice,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: it's like I go to my dad and Jared and
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: my sister and then Ben.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: And my mom, of course, but my mom is mostly like,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: she's so gentle.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Like if I needed.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Somebody to like, be like, you need to take action
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: in this way.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you'd be the right. It's, it's the same thing.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: 11 years in, we're having a blast doing it. Uh,
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: and only better things to come. Goodness. It's been a blast. Uh, okay.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Siyab Han 26. What's your dream guest to have on? Ooh, Ashley.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: I feel like you have answered. I mean, we haven't
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: had all the dream guests of yours, but we probably could.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: If we wanted a Jonas brother on, we could probably
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: have him on next week if we really wanted. We've
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: had so many. I remember when Lance Bass came on
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: in Vegas.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Lance was so cool.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: You were so excited. It was unreal. I think Peyton
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Manning might be mine.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Okay. So, like, this is outside of the Bachelor world.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, but I think Peyton could come on and
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: talk about reality television.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Okay. Well, then, yeah, I guess my dream guest would
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: be having a Jonas Brother on. And then, I mean,
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: that's definitely the answer. If I'm going to go into
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: the Bachelor realm.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: I would say that we've had all of the dream
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: guests on.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: But I love to have, like, the ones that I
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: feel like are always great gets. Chris Harrison, who will
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: be coming on in a couple weeks.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Talk about the vow.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: I think it's great when Hannah Brown's on. Tyler will
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: probably be on soon. Those are good ones. Who has, like,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: not been on enough? Like, I don't think Sean Lowe's
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: been on enough.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: He hasn't. No, that, yeah, Sean Lowe would be a
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: good one. I mean, some of those like iconic people.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, I know right now Tyler's name's huge because
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: he's on Dance with the Stars.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Emily Maynard, I always say she doesn't really do podcasts.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Would love to have her on. She's never been on.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: It's probably the answer. JoJo and Jordan together. Never had them.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, we've had JoJo once.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was actually going to say, I think I'm
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: in a really, and this goes for everybody.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: I find it.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Exhilarating, like a little nerve wracking. I get a little
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: bit tense, not with Jojo as much. Cause I just
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: think I've always thought Jojo is great. And I think
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: her and Jordan together are the coolest two people to
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: talk to. And I know they're fun to talk to. Um,
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: I do get excited, nervous less often now than I
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: did 11 years ago doing this with whoever comes on,
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: but I do find it fun to have past contestants
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: from the season of the bachelor that I was on
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: coming on the show. Like, I think it's fun to
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: catch up with these girls again. I don't get to
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: in my everyday life often. This is a good platform
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: to do it. And whatever they believe or not, and
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: I think they probably, for the most part, do believe it,
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: I get really pumped up to see where they're at
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: in their life now. It's exciting to know what they
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: were doing 10 years ago and what they were looking for.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: And then to see so many of them now crushing
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: it in their careers or as parents or in their
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: love life. It's just fun for me. And so I
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: think those would be my dream guests. If at some
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: point we could just keep like a weekly funnel of
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: here's a new person leading up to, you know, that
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: would be fun for me.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, guess what? We're having Chris soul's bachelor girls reunion
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: part two. If we're making an annual thing, it's been
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: two weeks. Yeah.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: That's so good. Um, okay. Will we be breaking down
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: the vow is the final question here. Um, before we
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: break down what's happening with the vow and Warner brothers. Yes,
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: of course we break down the vow. We're very excited
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: for the vow, but let's not dismiss the fact that
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: we still want to see the bachelor be successful. We're
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: not seeing this as pick a side. Uh, I just
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: don't know what the bachelor is doing. So it's impossible
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: for us to be like, yeah, rally behind the bachelor
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: and the vow. Um, When The Bachelor has no content
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: that they're promoting.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Like, let's talk about this for a second. It's October 5th.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: There has been no Bachelor chosen. Normally, we'd be weeks
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: into filming.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: How hard is it to pick a guy? They found me. Like,
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: I was selling software. How hard is it?
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: I know you were selling software and writing instructions in
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: tiny manuals, but they found you, and you were a diamond,
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: and they found Jared, and I don't even know how
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: I'm married to this man. This morning, I woke up.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: He woke up Dawson. He wakes up Dawson and gets
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: him ready all the time. He had packed his lunch.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: He cleaned up the entire kitchen, did all the dishes,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: cleaned the entire family room. I'm like, who are you?
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Stop making me look bad every day of my life.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: And he probably would look so good doing it.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: And he looks so good doing it. And I come
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: out in my disgusting Halloween pajamas looking an absolute wreck.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Being like, oh, hey, I guess I'll brush Dawson's teeth
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: since you've gotten him ready. And he's like, nope, I
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: already brushed his teeth. Okay. All right. I'll just go
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: retreat now.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: I'm just so sorry. I'm just going to go talk
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: to Ben about coffee. Jesus Christ. Yeah, we'll be breaking
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: down the vow. We want to see The Bachelor successful.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: We obviously are excited for the vow. I think it's
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: going to be fantastic. And it is going to be
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: great to see Chris Harrison on our screens. Again, this
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: brings us into our final topic to discuss here, Ashley.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: In a letter obtained by Variety, sent September 18th, WBTV,
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: the studio that produces The Bachelor, sent a cease and
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: desist letter to Fox Nation claiming the new series appears
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: to be, through promos, only through promos, a plain attempt
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: to capitalize on and ride the coattails of WB's instantly
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: recognizable intellectual property and the franchise's goodwill in violation, state
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: and federal trademark, copyright, and unfair competition laws. Without having
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: seen the series itself, they cannot comment on it and
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: reserve all right and connection therewith. To be clear, though,
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: we have no objection, WBTV says, to Fox and Lionsgate
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: releasing a dating show hosted by Chris Harrison in and
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: of itself. But thus far, Fox and Lionsgate have promoted
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: the series entirely on the back of the franchise, not
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: on its own merits. So, in short, WBTV is suing
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Not suing. Cease and desisting. Cease and desisting.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: They're asking for them to stop. That's what that means.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Promoting the show in such a fashion.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Because they think it is riding the coattails of
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: The Bachelor. I would say this. 100% there is innuendo
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: to The Bachelor in those promos. you know, stepping on roses.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: Do I think WBTV or The Bachelor owns the rights
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: to roses? I don't know how they would get the
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: trademark to a rose.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: In Fox's response, they said, you guys, basically in layman's terms,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: you guys don't own roses. You don't own falling roses.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: In fact, Beauty and the Beast, American Beauty said, And
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Moulin Rouge also use falling roses in their promotional materials.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: It symbolizes those movies as well as your show, you know,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: You Can't Really Own a Flower. I'll give you a
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: little secret here. I've received one cease and desist. Actually,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: it wasn't to me personally. It was to a production company.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: And it was very similar to this. It was a
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: YouTube show that we wanted to... It basically was like a...
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: A public sizzle reel. Where we were going to follow
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: the lives of... You know this.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: This is years ago.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Me, Jade, Tanner, Jared, and Nick. And we were going to...
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: It was called Rosebuds. Which I came up with the
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: title Rosebuds. And, well, they said that altogether that there
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: was too much likeliness to their cast. So it was...
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: they owned us in the fact that we were all together.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: And the name Rosebuds had to be definitely swashed. They
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: said it would let it go forward if we changed
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: the name. So again, they said cease and desist Rosebuds. Again,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: saying that they owned roses. I'm like, okay. I don't
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: want to upset you guys.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: We don't have Fox money to fight this.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: No, I appreciate you guys so much. Of course, we'll
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: change the name, right? And we all know so many
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: of our castmates from Bachelor have gotten cease and desist
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: for various reasons.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: But I would think that you and I both saw
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: this promo for The Vow and we thought, oh, here
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: comes the cease and desist. It is being crafted right now.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: But the thing is, we didn't really want... We don't
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: want to do anything. We'll cease and desist. Yeah, I'm good. Again,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: we don't have Fox money. Okay, we're good. But with Chris,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: in this case, this is Fox. This is their decision.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: They knew that it was spicy.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: They're not scared.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: They're not scared. And so if.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: If Warner Brothers really wanted to bring them to court
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: and said like, oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. We actually do.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: We own roses. They know that that's not going to
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: stand up in court, that they don't own roses.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it goes back to the bigger conversation
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: of what is, I'll just say the Bachelor franchises. What
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: is their plan and strategy in the modern area to
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: uplift and support They're cast members who have gone on
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: to do great things. We tied this conversation a few
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: weeks ago when it came to like you on The
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: Real Housewives of Rhode Island. And then obviously we've been
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: breaking down all these other shows that former cast members
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: of The Bachelor have gone on. And for me, I
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: hear the idea of Rosebuds as an example and think
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: that is only good for the show. It only promotes
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: this Bachelor world in another way that they're not paying
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: for nor producing nor involved in. I don't know why
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: they put the stop to this stuff. That has yet
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: to be clear to me because instead they have all
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: these other shows that are competing against The Bachelor and
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: those cast members going off to do crazy good things. Um,
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Bravo is a great example and they, you know, for
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: the most part, get behind those people and try to
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: uplift them and get them more opportunities, more, you know, publicity,
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: more exposure where the bachelor feels like they kind of
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: put this like umbrella over you for a long period
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: of your life and say, you can't do anything outside
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: of this franchise, which makes it really hard when the
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: franchise is doing nothing right now for themselves.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: So we should read what they said. So Fox basically
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: said there's a there's the there's the roses. There's a
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: mansion in the background. And then they're like, well, not
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Harrison himself, but Harrison himself along the side of roses
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: and a mansion that just feels very much of an
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: infringement on our. What is it like brainchild? And this
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: is what Fox responded with. Your letter also focuses myopically.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: This is to convey that The Vow offers a different
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: approach from other dating shows. By placing the focus on
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: meaningful relationships, commitment, and building a life together, your letter
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: appears designed to vindicate legitimate copyright and trademark interests, not
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: to vindicate legitimate copyright and trademark interests, but to restrict
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Fox Nation and Chris Harrison from promoting a competing dating show.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: It's unfortunate that Warner Brothers is targeting Mr. Harrison in
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: this malicious and vindictive manner. And then they final, they
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: close it by saying, the vow exhorts its participants and
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: viewers to choose love. And we trust that Warner Brothers
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: will do the same and drop its pursuits in these
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: meritless claims. Basically, they just want Warner to choose love.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: So corny, but also amazing.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: I just want to be behind the scenes. There's so
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: much happening right now. I don't quite... I get it.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: I understand why Warner's upset. I get it.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Let's just say it. Let's just say it honestly.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand why Warner is upset because... Somehow, someway,
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: Chris Harrison, his timing is so good. He literally is
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: stepping in with this show in the midst of a
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: down season. And that was not strategically planned, I don't believe.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: I think it was good timing for him to have
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: this idea for a show that he found the differentiator
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: in what was out there in the market and what
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: could be possible is to do a show that promoted...
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: what he's and the show is calling traditional values, which
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: The Bachelor would be the closest thing on television to
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: that back in the day.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: So he is coming out with a show, though, that
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: is focused on that. And it just happens to be
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: already filmed in production in the midst of a downtime
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: for The Bachelor. And this trailer was definitely stepping on
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: The idea that The Bachelor is nowhere to be found
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: right now, even though we do still want it to
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: be found.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: Don't want you to hear us wrong. We don't want
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: The Bachelor to go away. It is not something that
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: I think is fun. It's a great part of our
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: life when it's good and it's done well. It's a
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: fun watch. However, my honest thought is this was not
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: a battle Warner needed to pick because all it does
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: is bring free promotion to Chris's show and And I
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  Speaker 3: don't think it's a battle they win. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: how they win it.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like they're jealous.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Yes, that's how it looks to me.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: It looks like they're like, he's got interest. He got
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: people's interest. And we don't want that. And it's like, guys,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: so sorry. You fired him. You fired him. So now
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: you have to accept.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: I think the public opinion is he did not get fired.
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  Speaker 3: It was a mutual departure.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, please now. That's the public opinion? Or is that
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: the contractual verbiage?
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: I think it's the verbiage that we use. I think they,
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: if we look back, I think it was a, it was...
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: a forced departure on both sides to say, this is
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: no longer a good, healthy relationship. We need to divorce
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: in some way.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, well, I think they regret it and they want
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: to get remarried and they can't do it anymore because
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Chris doesn't want to get remarried.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so as we wrap here, Ashley, there's a lot
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: of more questions that we have, but we'll answer those
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: at a later date because it's always fun to hear
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: from you and hear what's going on in your mind
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: and what you're curious about. It's fun to then, maybe
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: the next time we can do this, Ashley, we can
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: start talking about family dynamics. I know there's a lot
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: of questions on here of what's your family planning look like?
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: What are you and Jared up to today?
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: I see that. I'm like, guys, please.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: Also, questions about my family planning and what Jess and
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: I are up to today. I want to talk about
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: all that. It's fun to let you guys in, especially
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: because I'm not as good as Ashley on social media.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: And so there's a little bit of dark area in
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: my life that you don't know about. And it would
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: be fun to sit down and talk about. In fact,
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: last night, Ashley, I got a self-promote. I Do In
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: Destination aired on television. It premiered. Ben, where was my text? Well,
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to ask my friends.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: You need to tape it.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: Well, come on. I'm not going to ask my friends to.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: You have a lot going on in your life.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: I didn't watch the screener yet because I'm the worst.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: It's on YouTube starting on the 6th, Ashley. So it's
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: easier to, you know, to find if you just go
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: to YouTube. Okay, that's tomorrow.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Okay, thank you.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: Type in I do in destination. You'll get episode one.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: We're full in. So go watch it. Let me know
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: what you think. Okay, I'm excited. And I also got
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: to interview the first two couples here on the podcast.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: So you can go back and listen to that if
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: you're interested in kind of their stories and what their
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: experiences were like on that show. So there's my point
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: to all this was there's a lot happening in our
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: lives that we don't talk about on Almost Famous because
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: it's not the place nor the platform, but question and
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: answers like this allow us to open up a bit
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: and it's fun to do that. So please write us
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: in with your questions. But in closing, Ashley, your final
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: thoughts on The Vow and this issue with Warner. You
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: and I both love Warner. We've said it five times.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: I want to say it again. I love Warner. I
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: am in debt to them for what they've created with
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: my life. You know, I just have to say that professionally,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: this feels like a move that only somebody. I don't
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: jealous or just unhappy about this. Something that could be,
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: which could be that this show could be a hit.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: If this show is a hit and it has Chris
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: involved with it, I think it's just going to make
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: them regret their decision to part ways with Chris even more.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: And I think that this is a regret that they
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: have often. I think that they had decreased interest viewers
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: after his departure I think that the majority of the
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: audience like whenever they see Chris on something or it's
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: like oh my gosh we miss you so much and
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: I just feel like they don't need a reminder of
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: what they decided to depart with.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: Here is my final thought if the vow and I'm
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: not saying it can't if the vow can come in
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: in season one and take a that big of a
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: dent out of Bachelor viewership, then The Bachelor needs to
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: look internally at themselves more than they need to look
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: at The Vow. The Vow is on Fox Nation. It's
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: a streaming service. It is a brand new show. It
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: has a great host. It has some great promotion right now.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: But if The Bachelor is threatened by a season one
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: show that has never been on TV before, then I
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: think they need to look internally and go, where did
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: we go wrong? What are we doing wrong? Who's pulling
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: the strings over here and making decisions? Because it's not
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: pushing us in a direction forward and upward for consistently
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: for the last few years. It feels like we're fumbling
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: around trying to figure out how to make sense of
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: this show and what it is. Why did that ever happen?
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: What went wrong? How can a show die so fast? That's,
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: I think, the question. Let's not pick on the new show.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Let's instead go, How do we get better with the
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: millions of dollars and millions of viewers that we have
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: built in and the franchise name and all the trademarking
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: that they have? How do we grow instead of how
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: do we protect?
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: And Ben, my question to you is, what do you
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: think about it being on Fox Nation? So Fox Nation,
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Fox doesn't have its own. When it comes to the biggies,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: we have, you know, ABC with Hulu. We have NBC
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: with Peacock. We have CBS and Paramount. Fox doesn't have
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: its own streaming service outside of what I've always thought
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Fox Nation is more of Fox News's streaming network with
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: bonus political content and bonus historical content. There's stuff like that.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: But they've never had. a dating show. This is 1000%
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: first of its kind for the streaming network. Do you
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: think this is Fox trying to be like, no Fox
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: nation is our streaming network or is this a Fox news?
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: It's a, I think it's a, I think it's Fox
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: nation is a low risk entry point for a new
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: idea and a new show that Fox has never done,
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: which is in the dating category. I I've said it
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: once and I'll say it again. I don't think it
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: exists on Fox nation next year. I think it goes
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: to cable. I think Fox says it goes to Fox.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: I think it goes to Fox. Why not? Get the
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: money behind it in the production. Hey, Ash, we got
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: to wrap. We got a lot to talk about today.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: A lot more to break down, continue to stay listening
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: to the almost famous podcast. As we move forward, we'll
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: be back with more question and answers. So please continue
• 42:58
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• 43:00
  Speaker 3: hearing from you. So until next time, I've been Ben.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: I've been Ashley. See ya.
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