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Mac & Bone Hour 3: NC State Coaching Search & Hornets Problems · Mac & Bone Podcast

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Speaker 1: Oh, oh, oh, it's Mac and Bo on your radio, baby.
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Speaker 2: This is my friend Matt. Posh, come on, Posh.
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Speaker 3: This is my friend T-Bone.
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Speaker 2: Let's have some fun.
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Speaker 4: I can't go to work without listening to Mac and Bone.
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Speaker 2: Do it live.
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Speaker 5: NC State's a good job. Have you seen Carter-Finley Stadium
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Speaker 5: when it's rocking hard? It is one of the toughest
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Speaker 5: places to play in the ACC. They care deeply about football.
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Speaker 5: North Carolina has lots of good players in the state.
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Speaker 5: This is not a place that is perpetually downtrodden. They
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Speaker 5: can be very good, especially in the ACC. So they
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Speaker 5: need to take this absolutely seriously, and they need to
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Speaker 5: not just default to the alum. They need to look
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Speaker 5: and see who else might want this because I do
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Speaker 5: think there's probably some really experienced college coaches that would
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Speaker 5: want this job.
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Speaker 6: All right, Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. That's Andy Staples, Andy
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Speaker 6: and Ari Podcast, all in three sports, talking about all
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Speaker 6: signs pointing to Phillip Rivers.
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Speaker 7: Really? Really?
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Speaker 6: Being the head coach of NC State football and Andy
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Speaker 6: Staple's point, Bone, is something I was thinking about last night.
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Speaker 6: And if you're just joining us and you're wondering, are
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Speaker 6: we going to whine about the Hornets? We've been doing
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Speaker 6: a lot of that. That will happen in a few
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Speaker 6: minutes on this segment. So I want to start talking, Bone,
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Speaker 6: about like, I mean, how much is what's happening in
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Speaker 6: just a reflection of the Lamella trade. Like, I mean,
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Speaker 6: like how much do we need to concede that? But
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Speaker 6: before we get to that, something else that's bugging me,
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Speaker 6: why can't, to Andy Staple's point, why can't NC State
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Speaker 6: at least talk to actual college football head coaches? Like,
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Speaker 6: why can't they at least see, is our Jake Dickert
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Speaker 6: out there somewhere? There is a list of very successful— heck,
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Speaker 6: look to James Madison for two of them, Chesney and Cignetti.
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Speaker 6: But there's a list, Bone, Sumrall, there's a list of
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Speaker 6: coaches that move up from the group of six to
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Speaker 6: the power four and— Teams feel like they have struck gold, right?
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Speaker 6: Those players bring a bunch of their players with them,
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Speaker 6: and they can hit the ground running in the portal era.
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Speaker 2: Why is NC State— Look what Kentucky did in one
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Speaker 2: year with Will Stein. Will Stein's another.
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Speaker 7: Now, he wasn't head coach, but he was a coordinator.
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Speaker 7: A very tough job at Kentucky. Much like Wake Forest
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Speaker 7: Mac's a very tough job, Kentucky's a very tough job.
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Speaker 7: And Will Stein says, I'll accept that job, and now
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Speaker 7: I'll be one of the best coaches in America.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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Speaker 6: So, like, again, the Philip Rivers thing, I've— I've tried
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Speaker 6: to kind of see, like I can see, he seems
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Speaker 6: like he's obviously sharp offensively. He obviously has thought highly
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Speaker 6: enough that the Bills interviewed him for their head coaching job.
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Speaker 6: But to just jump from high school to the Power Four,
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Speaker 6: and you said it the other day, It doesn't even appear, Bone,
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Speaker 6: they have any interest in candidates that are current coaches.
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Speaker 7: It feels like they've got their tractor beam set on Rivers,
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Speaker 7: and that worries me because you want to do a
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Speaker 7: full search. You want to make sure that you cover everything.
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Speaker 7: You want to go group of six. You want to
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Speaker 7: go assistance. It feels like they've zoned in on Phillip Rivers,
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Speaker 7: and that means will this be a situation where they
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Speaker 7: went this way and they missed out on someone they
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Speaker 7: could have gotten, much like... Look, I know that things
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Speaker 7: are going better for UNC and what they look like
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Speaker 7: right now, but they got Belichick. John Summerall would have
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Speaker 7: been the long-term great hire for the Heels.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and Andy Staples is one of the guys that
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Speaker 6: said the way that played out is when Summerall realized
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Speaker 6: that that whole search had been bogarted by the board
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Speaker 6: for Belichick.
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Speaker 2: He said, I'm out. This is a clusterfuck.
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Speaker 7: I do have an update, Mac, on the Philip Rivers
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Speaker 7: front that comes from USA Today yesterday. I did not
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Speaker 7: see this until this morning. They're reporting that Philip Rivers
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Speaker 7: is already working on what his staff will be.
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Speaker 6: The whole group of NC State brass were in Alabama yesterday, reportedly,
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Speaker 6: to meet with him, too. This texter says, sounds like
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Speaker 6: it's down to Russ and Philip. This Russ thing, I
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Speaker 6: don't even know what this was. Because I don't even know,
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Speaker 6: are they seriously considering him? Are they doing him a favor, Bone,
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Speaker 6: and just getting his name out there?
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Speaker 2: Like maybe Russ wants to go into coaching and they're
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Speaker 2: getting his name?
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Speaker 6: Because it feels like, like you said, they have the
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Speaker 6: blinders on and it's Phillip Rivers or Bust.
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Speaker 2: Was that their attempt at.
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Speaker 7: Was Philip Rivers not sure or they weren't sure where
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Speaker 7: it was going? So they decided, all right, we're going
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Speaker 7: to try to push Philip along here. We'll just go
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Speaker 7: talk to Russ and get that out there. And maybe
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Speaker 7: that'll maybe that'll push him along.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Other
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Speaker 2: than the cower part of this thing.
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Speaker 7: Russell Wilson, CBS co-worker there, he sits next to, who's
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Speaker 7: in charge of the search. I don't really understand was,
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Speaker 7: were they doing Russ a favor? Was he just trying
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Speaker 7: to help Cowher get a name out there other than
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Speaker 7: Phillip Rivers?
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Speaker 2: I don't know what he was doing. Unbelievable.
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Speaker 6: This dude says NC State thinks they can only hire
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Speaker 6: former quarterbacks for the job. Yeah, that's just kind of
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Speaker 6: a weird element of it. John says, as an NC
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Speaker 6: State fan, Phillip Rivers will reinvigorate the boosters. The donors
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Speaker 6: had gotten so put to sleep by all things Dave Doran,
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Speaker 6: they need a jump start.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just.
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Speaker 6: Like Bone was saying, don't you at least want to
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Speaker 6: pick the brains of some of these young coaches that
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Speaker 6: are out there? Heck, they don't even need to be
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Speaker 6: necessarily young. Big Tex brings up Willie Fritz at Houston.
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Speaker 6: There's just a lot of guys, Bone, that are doing
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Speaker 6: really good work, and it's just these paths have been successful.
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Speaker 6: Whereas I was reading Stuart Mandell talking about it, Bone,
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Speaker 6: and he was giving the list of people that have
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Speaker 6: gone from high school to college, and it's like a
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Speaker 6: who's who of failures, right? Jerry Faust, failed Notre Dame coach,
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Speaker 6: came from high school.
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Speaker 7: Malzahn did it, but he went coordinator, and then he
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Speaker 7: went to Arkansas from high school, and then he ended
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Speaker 7: up becoming head coach after being assistant.
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Speaker 6: Chad Morris was coordinator first. He failed as head coach anyway.
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Speaker 6: Todd Dodge at North Texas. Tony Sanchez at UNLV. These
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Speaker 6: are all names. Trent Dilfer's the most recent one. It's just,
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Speaker 6: that's a big jump from high school to power four.
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Speaker 7: Trent Dilfer is also in the USA Today article, Matt,
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Speaker 7: talking about– they talked to him about going straight from
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Speaker 7: high school to college as a coach, which is similar
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Speaker 7: in a lot of ways. NFL guy, high school to
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Speaker 7: college there. He said that his biggest problem was that
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Speaker 7: he wasn't part of UAB. Phillip Rivers is so ingrained
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Speaker 7: as NC State, they're naturally going to like him and
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Speaker 7: what he does, and there's going to be a lot
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Speaker 7: of support. Trey Dilfer says it wasn't X's and O's.
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Speaker 7: It wasn't knowing what should be done with players. It
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Speaker 7: was the fact that he never could get support there
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Speaker 7: because he.
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Speaker 2: Wasn't one of their own, like Phillip Rivers will be. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: that's true.
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Speaker 6: What he will... Phillip Rivers will need, and Jeff Collins
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Speaker 6: brought it up the other day with us. He will...
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Speaker 6: He will need a solid staff, a great defensive coordinator.
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Speaker 6: And I would throw in, he'll probably need a couple
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Speaker 6: of former head coaches. He'll probably need multiple guys on
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Speaker 6: the staff, like a Jeff Collins, who have been head
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Speaker 6: coaches and who can guide him through the process.
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Speaker 7: They said that he's very well connected. That's one of
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Speaker 7: the things about it. It's not just the fundraising. He's
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Speaker 7: got so many football connections. that he can amass a
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Speaker 7: staff there. Matt, there's a couple of our guys out
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Speaker 7: there that would be big help to Phillip Rivers. You
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Speaker 7: know who else would be big help to Phillip Rivers?
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Speaker 7: A guy like Dave Clawson.
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Speaker 2: Who's around.
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Speaker 7: Not sure he wants a coach anymore, but it's that
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Speaker 7: level of guy that is close to the game still,
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Speaker 7: but not.
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Speaker 6: Attached to somewhere else right now. Former head coaches are
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Speaker 6: important to his staff.
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Speaker 2: They really are.
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Speaker 6: This texter says, you guys are missing a point. Rivers
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Speaker 6: will guarantee boatloads of NIL money and... He can hit
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Speaker 6: the ground running. When his high school season is over,
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Speaker 6: he can start. Yeah, I think that's probably part of
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Speaker 6: what they're thinking, too. You want to get out front.
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Speaker 6: That portal comes up really quick, Bone, to where if
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Speaker 6: you have to wait until the end of the season
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Speaker 6: for college coaches. I don't know, man. It's a weird search.
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Speaker 6: I'm trying to get myself behind Phillip Rivers.
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Speaker 7: I understand with the December signing period and then immediately
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Speaker 7: the portal's not far behind, these teams that make these
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Speaker 7: early firings are trying to get ahead of stuff there.
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Speaker 7: But ultimately, does that also put a rush on the
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Speaker 7: hire where you're not going through the full process? You
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Speaker 7: got your sights set on one guy, but yet you're
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Speaker 7: not waiting for the whole thing to cycle to really start.
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Speaker 4: So.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 7: I feel like they might be rushing it a little bit.
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Speaker 7: I get why. But you don't have to hire someone
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Speaker 7: November 6th, 7th, 8th. I mean, you can wait a
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Speaker 7: little bit here. You're hiring for the long. You want
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Speaker 7: to be good for the long term. Next year's important.
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Speaker 7: Not just December.
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Speaker 6: But you don't want to. Not to mention, Jake Dickert
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Speaker 6: got a late start on things. How did he do?
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Speaker 6: If you bring a group of six coach, Boney, and
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Speaker 6: they are a good group of six program... And he
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Speaker 6: can bring some players with him, like Jake Dicker did
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Speaker 6: from Washington State. You can hit the ground running. I
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Speaker 6: want to talk about the LaMelo thing real quick, too, Boney.
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Speaker 6: Because the Phillip Rivers thing, I find myself questioning. The
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Speaker 6: texters want us to question. One guy wants Mack and
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Speaker 6: Bone and everybody at WFNZ to apologize for trying to
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Speaker 6: sell them. on the lamello ball trade. People want apologies.
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Speaker 6: People are saying they were right about the lamello ball trade.
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Speaker 6: A trade that was made, Bone, with the future in mind,
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Speaker 6: we can't just close the book on it after nine games.
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Speaker 6: But I think we certainly can acknowledge, Bone, with the
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Speaker 6: guys Kobe hurt, with Khan hurt, and with this offense,
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Speaker 6: as pathetic as it is, last in the league in
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Speaker 6: offensive vision, I think we certainly can acknowledge they would
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Speaker 6: be way more watchable.
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Speaker 7: Right now with the offense is borderline unwatchable, but I
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Speaker 7: will not apologize because when we were analyzing that trade
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Speaker 7: and when we analyze it right now, the fact of
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Speaker 7: the matter is that Kobe White, Conca Nipple, Brandon Miller,
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Speaker 7: Musa and Nas Reed have played as a starting lineup
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Speaker 7: six minutes so far this year.
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Speaker 2: So we can sit here and you guys can brag.
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Speaker 2: It's like, oh, I was right.
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Speaker 7: But the starting lineup that we envisioned that could be
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Speaker 7: close to the win total last year, maybe it would
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Speaker 7: have been below.
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Speaker 2: We have not seen it.
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Speaker 7: So if you would have told us that Khan will
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Speaker 7: be out and Kobe White's hurt and all these things,
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Speaker 7: obviously our mindset would be different. But we've only seen
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Speaker 7: the actual starting lineup for six total minutes. So I
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Speaker 7: can't even really judge what they are without LaMelo because
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Speaker 7: I don't know because I don't see it.
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Speaker 6: Hype C has checked in, Bone. After ticking you off
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Speaker 6: earlier in the show, he's back. He says, quit crying.
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Speaker 6: You didn't want LaMelo here anyway.
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Speaker 2: Damn it.
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Speaker 7: Actually, I'm going to rename him today Hype B. You're
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Speaker 7: hype B because that's what you are today. You're a B.
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Speaker 2: 704.
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Speaker 7: Hype C's bothered me from minute one today. I'm not
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Speaker 7: a guy that's easily bothered. He's bothered me today.
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Speaker 9: Uh-oh.
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Speaker 8: Uh-oh, hype.
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Speaker 2: Look out. You're on his list.
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Speaker 6: 704 says, let's be honest, if LaMelo was here, he'd
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Speaker 6: be hurt too. He's not hurt right now, in fairness
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Speaker 6: to him. Anthony Edwards is, ironically, but he's not. I
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Speaker 6: would like to say this about the LaMelo trade. I
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Speaker 6: voted against it before I voted for it. all right,
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Speaker 6: to go politician on you. We just had an election.
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Speaker 6: We just got done a politician speak bone on those
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Speaker 6: campaign ads. I did not like it. I wanted to
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Speaker 6: run back last season. I was all about trading Miles Bridges.
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Speaker 6: And I agree with Walker Mayle when he says we
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Speaker 6: got better with just Grayson Allen over Miles Bridges. Forget
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Speaker 6: the draft pick and Royce O'Neal too. Like, I'd rather
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Speaker 6: have Grayson Allen than Miles Bridges. We got a couple
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Speaker 6: people on there saying we're bad because we lost Miles Bridges,
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Speaker 6: and I just find that to be laughable.
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Speaker 2: He ain't helping the shooting problems. I can guarantee you that.
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Speaker 2: This has nothing to do with Miles Bridges right now.
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Speaker 6: The Lomelo conversation is a very legit one, and it
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Speaker 6: will be all year.
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Speaker 7: Because Grayson Allen is a better basketball player right now
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Speaker 7: than Miles Bridges.
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Speaker 8: 100%.
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Speaker 6: And you got a future first unprotected, and you got
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Speaker 6: a shooter like Royce O'Neal. So, but I, I did
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Speaker 6: not want to trade LaMelo. I wanted to try to
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Speaker 6: run it back with this core. You do have a
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Speaker 6: texture though, but, but what I did, but as the,
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Speaker 6: as the off season went on. I think I saw
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Speaker 6: the logic of what they were doing long-term. I think
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Speaker 6: I understood what they were trying to do.
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Speaker 7: Texter says, Mac, with all the injuries this year, who's
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Speaker 7: to say that Mella wouldn't also be hurt already for
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Speaker 7: the Hornets?
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Speaker 6: Somebody else just said that, too. Somebody else just said
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Speaker 6: that same thing. 704-570-9610, if you want to jump in here.
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Speaker 6: This Texter says, Mac and Bone are doing damage control.
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Speaker 6: You can't defend the Hornets now. Jeff Peterson is on
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Speaker 6: borrowed time.
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Speaker 2: That's not remotely true.
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Speaker 6: The owners are 100% behind what he's doing, this future-oriented rebuild.
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Speaker 2: Now, I will say this.
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Speaker 6: As I watch this team, Bone, I find myself getting
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Speaker 6: very antsy for when they finally make the move.
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Speaker 2: The move.
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Speaker 6: When they finally trade in 700 gazillion draft picks and assets,
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Speaker 6: and they finally go for it. When I watched this
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Speaker 6: bleep show of basketball, and I'm telling you right now,
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Speaker 6: I was in anguish and physical pain from watching that
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Speaker 6: trash last night.
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Speaker 7: That could also be your diet, but anyway, continue. I
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Speaker 7: behaved myself during the week, sir. I behaved myself. That
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Speaker 7: was a good eating day.
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Speaker 2: That was me.
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Speaker 6: It's just, there's a long game here, but as a fan, Boney,
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Speaker 6: and speaking on behalf of fellow fans, the patience is
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Speaker 6: going to wear out. The pressure from your customers is
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Speaker 6: going to be there to make the move. And you
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Speaker 6: shared an article with me today where The Ringer is
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Speaker 6: talking about what's the next big star trade move. And
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Speaker 6: they mentioned Bam, who has been mentioned a lot here. Jokic,
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Speaker 6: who is an interesting one. And then Devin Booker, who
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Speaker 6: feels kind of less interesting for our situation.
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Speaker 7: As a fit, yeah. I mean, Jokic obviously would be,
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Speaker 7: although the age is there. The thought with Jokic back
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Speaker 7: in Bill Simmons has been on this one. Is it
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Speaker 7: running its course in Denver? Are they at the point
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Speaker 7: now where, much like Giannis in Milwaukee, they got their championship?
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Speaker 2: Are they going anywhere in the future?
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Speaker 7: Or are they going to unload Jokic at some point
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Speaker 7: to try to rebuild that thing there? Jokic here as
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Speaker 7: a passer with all these shooters.
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Speaker 2: Oh, man.
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Speaker 7: I know that they're not shooting well right now. But
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Speaker 7: just think about if they're all right and they're all healthy.
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Speaker 7: That would be huge. I don't know if that would
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Speaker 7: ever happen. But those are the things we said we
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Speaker 7: will monitor all year. Big names will come up, and
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Speaker 7: Howard Beck does have Jokic, Bam, and Devin Booker as
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Speaker 7: three guys that could be the next guys to move back.
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Speaker 2: Did you see Michael Jordan in the news yesterday?
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Speaker 8: Yes.
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Speaker 7: Michael Jordan making the call to Jeff Peterson at one
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Speaker 7: point to make sure that Brandon Miller wasn't going anywhere.
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Speaker 6: And the second and the second he's still minority owner,
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Speaker 6: by the way, if people are wondering why is Michael
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Speaker 6: Jordan involved? Michael, of course, loved Brandon Miller and, you know,
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Speaker 6: was a big reason why we drafted Brandon Miller when
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Speaker 6: Michael was with this team.
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Speaker 9: Yes.
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Speaker 2: There was an article by Zach Lowe that was mainly positive,
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Speaker 2: I think. About Brandon Miller, but did.
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Speaker 6: Kind of question him. But in terms of like, is
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Speaker 6: he that dude? But yes, it said that once we
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Speaker 6: traded LaMelo and Miles, that Jordan called Jeff Peterson and said,
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Speaker 6: you better not be trading Brandon.
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Speaker 2: And what did Brandon do?
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Speaker 6: Just hours after that article dropped, went out there and
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Speaker 6: looked like a guy that maybe we should have traded
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Speaker 6: and maybe shouldn't have paid. Two for 15. That was atrocious.
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Speaker 6: Like Brandon's my dude, but damn. When this team desperately
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Speaker 6: needs Bucketsbone like they do now, he's got to find
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Speaker 6: a way to get them. He can't be like, no,
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Speaker 6: Nas Reed and the Post.
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Speaker 2: Will get them for me.
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Speaker 7: When you end up in that $ 200 million range, when
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Speaker 7: you end up as the— the A player on a
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Speaker 7: team or the, you know, maybe the Jalen Brown with
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Speaker 7: Jason Tatum, that type of player on a team. With
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Speaker 7: that comes an expected consistency. You don't often see, Matt,
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Speaker 7: the Stars have games that are that rough. Even their
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Speaker 7: bad games, they end up in the... you know the
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Speaker 7: 15 to 20 point range his bad games right now
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Speaker 7: are like way down for the level of player he's
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Speaker 7: supposed to he's had a 2 of 14 and a
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Speaker 7: 2 of 15 that's not that's not good man he's
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Speaker 7: shooting what is he shooting 35 for the field 27
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Speaker 7: from 3 it's not efficient man and that's the thing
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Speaker 7: you worry about now he has a different role he
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Speaker 7: has to create lamello's not there to hit him And
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Speaker 7: it's like the efficiency of Khan and Brandon we've been questioning.
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Speaker 7: There is one texter that wants to rebel against the angst.
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Speaker 7: 704 says, we are nine games into the season. Everyone
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Speaker 7: chill the F out. The Hornets will recover once healthy.
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Speaker 7: In Jeff Peterson, we trust.
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Speaker 2: There you go, baby. Here we go.
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Speaker 7: When we come back on the Mac and Bone show,
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Speaker 7: I feel like Mac on a day like this.
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Speaker 2: We need a little sunshine.
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Speaker 7: We need someone to make us happy, to tell us,
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Speaker 7: keep calm, my babies. It's going to be all right.
17:49
Speaker 7: And we call in Sam Farber, the voice of the Hornets.
17:53
Speaker 7: Mac is in a bad mood today. He's grumpy.
17:55
Speaker 2: Can the farm dog uplift the Mac man in this
17:59
Speaker 2: city today? We'll find out next.
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Speaker 7: Sam talks about last night's result and where we're going
18:02
Speaker 7: from here with Boston and Cleveland.
18:04
Speaker 2: Next up, Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
18:28
Speaker 6: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. It's a fiery, feisty, mac and
18:33
Speaker 6: bone show right here on WFNZ. Feel free to go back,
18:38
Speaker 6: listen to the podcast of the time you missed.
18:41
Speaker 2: If you've got.
18:41
Speaker 6: Some feistiness in you as a Charlotte sports fan right now,
18:46
Speaker 6: feel free to go back, listen to the podcast, wherever
18:49
Speaker 6: you get your podcasts, WFNZ.com, Apple, Spotify.
18:52
Speaker 2: And commiserate with us.
18:53
Speaker 6: We are all going through it together here in Charlotte,
18:57
Speaker 6: in the world of Charlotte sports. Boney, we have the man, though.
19:02
Speaker 6: We have the man for the job, right? People getting
19:05
Speaker 6: down and out. People getting bummed out, worried about the Panthers,
19:10
Speaker 6: and now worried about the Hornets after last night. The
19:13
Speaker 6: man is here. The man is not called Sunshine Sam
19:16
Speaker 6: for no reason. Sam Farber, the voice of the Hornets,
19:20
Speaker 6: is going to calm the masses, I have a feeling, here.
19:23
Speaker 6: And Sammy is with us for his weekly spot on Thursday. Sam,
19:26
Speaker 6: what's going on, brother?
19:27
Speaker 2: How you doing?
19:29
Speaker 5: Hi, Mack.
19:31
Speaker 9: Oh my god oh my god that scared me so
19:35
Speaker 9: much i know i thought we lost sammy too man
19:39
Speaker 9: i thought it was a cloudy day in his world it.
19:43
Speaker 4: Might be raining but you know, there's still sunshine.
19:46
Speaker 6: Oh my goodness. What did you think of last night?
19:51
Speaker 6: I mean, six minutes in, Khan gets hurt again, and
19:55
Speaker 6: now we're worried about that. I mean, I guess you
19:58
Speaker 6: got to start with the injuries. Heck, even during game,
20:00
Speaker 6: Nas Reid's playing great. But he's playing through a back situation.
20:04
Speaker 6: Schroeder's playing through an injury. Grayson Allen at one point
20:08
Speaker 6: got gimpy there on a collision on his three-point attempt.
20:12
Speaker 6: Kobe White gets poked in the eye, no foul call.
20:15
Speaker 6: I mean, the luck isn't on our side, Sam, so
20:18
Speaker 6: far this year.
20:20
Speaker 4: Yeah, it wasn't just raining here this morning or last night.
20:23
Speaker 4: It was kind of storming around the Hornets. In terms
20:27
Speaker 4: of injuries, it happens. You know, it's a physical game.
20:31
Speaker 4: And I think the Hornets play with a certain level
20:33
Speaker 4: of physicality that sometimes, you know, it's going to result
20:37
Speaker 4: in collisions. It's going to result. in players getting nicked up.
20:40
Speaker 4: A lot of credit to Nas Reed. I mean, he
20:42
Speaker 4: was getting beaten up bad. You know, it felt like,
20:46
Speaker 4: you know, for the entirety of the second quarter, like
20:48
Speaker 4: every time he took a bump, he'd hit his back
20:51
Speaker 4: on the floor and then he'd will himself back up
20:53
Speaker 4: and get right back out there to it and ends
20:55
Speaker 4: up with a season high. So a lot of credit
20:57
Speaker 4: to him and all the Hornets. for for gritting it
21:00
Speaker 4: out if they were at all capable of doing so.
21:02
Speaker 4: And some of the injuries, you know, clearly more extensive
21:06
Speaker 4: to the point that, you know, kind of was not
21:09
Speaker 4: able to get back out there on the floor. But
21:11
Speaker 4: as I said, it's part of the game. It's something
21:14
Speaker 4: the Hornets are going to have to deal with. They've
21:15
Speaker 4: got an A plus medical team that really just does
21:18
Speaker 4: a tremendous job. And if there is a way to
21:20
Speaker 4: get them on the floor safely, you know that they're
21:22
Speaker 4: going to do it.
21:24
Speaker 2: What do you equate Brandon Miller struggles to here early
21:26
Speaker 2: this season?
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Speaker 4: I think some of it is the focus of the
21:31
Speaker 4: defense on him, and that's been the case. since day
21:35
Speaker 4: one of the season. I think another part is, you know,
21:38
Speaker 4: he's just in the shooting stump right now. You know,
21:40
Speaker 4: we see it with great hitters in baseball. We see
21:42
Speaker 4: it with, you know, great players across the board in
21:45
Speaker 4: all sports. Sometimes you just don't have the ball going
21:49
Speaker 4: through the cylinder. And it was uncanny, like the first quarter,
21:52
Speaker 4: not just Brandon, but it felt like the entire team,
21:55
Speaker 4: not just shots missing, but missing from the interior of
21:58
Speaker 4: the rim. Like these were, you know, halfway down the
22:01
Speaker 4: cylinder and, And they just, you know, I don't know
22:03
Speaker 4: if they tightened it on that side of the floor
22:04
Speaker 4: in Brooklyn before the game started or what, but the
22:07
Speaker 4: Hornets just were not getting the bounces. So I think,
22:10
Speaker 4: you know, talking to Brandon in the past, talking to
22:12
Speaker 4: shooters like Grayson Allen and Royce O'Neal, the only way
22:15
Speaker 4: through it is to keep shooting. And the worst thing
22:18
Speaker 4: Brandon could do would be to turn off the green
22:21
Speaker 4: light that he's had since entering the league, because he's
22:23
Speaker 4: one of the most proficient three-point shooters we have in
22:26
Speaker 4: the game. And so, you know, I firmly believe this
22:30
Speaker 4: is going to even out by season's end. It's just
22:33
Speaker 4: a matter of time.
22:34
Speaker 6: We're talking with Sam Farber, voice of the Hornets. Hornets
22:37
Speaker 6: on a five-game losing streak right now, and we're trying
22:41
Speaker 6: to talk through this here with our guy Sammy. Sam,
22:44
Speaker 6: what do you think about where Kobe White is right now?
22:47
Speaker 6: He goes two of nine last night. It feels like
22:50
Speaker 6: he's not quite fully up to speed coming off the
22:53
Speaker 6: calf injury, but also the minutes restriction feels so severe.
22:58
Speaker 6: He plays 18 minutes after 16 the first game. He
23:01
Speaker 6: only was able to play three games. in the fourth quarter.
23:06
Speaker 6: What are your thoughts on that? That's like a heavy,
23:08
Speaker 6: like Lamello's restriction of like under 30 minutes was one thing.
23:12
Speaker 2: This is a heavy restriction.
23:15
Speaker 4: Well, I think there is a difference here. I think
23:17
Speaker 4: with Lamello, the restriction was to keep him healthy. And
23:20
Speaker 4: I think with Kobe, it might be in some small
23:23
Speaker 4: part to continue to get him healthier or get him
23:26
Speaker 4: ramped up to full minutes. You know, Kobe went through
23:30
Speaker 4: a calf strain, and it's an injury he has had
23:32
Speaker 4: experience with and was able to navigate last year. which
23:39
Speaker 4: I believe was a career low for him. But, you know,
23:42
Speaker 4: some of it was minutes. Some of it was the
23:43
Speaker 4: fact that he was coming off the bench, but the
23:45
Speaker 4: Hornets were able to put him in a position to
23:47
Speaker 4: be really, really explosive at the end of seasons and
23:50
Speaker 4: obviously make one of the most consequential shots in franchise history.
23:53
Speaker 4: Right now they're asking, they're going to be asking more
23:56
Speaker 4: of him when he's back to, you know, full strength, 100%.
23:59
Speaker 4: And I'm not suggesting he's not healthy enough to be playing.
24:02
Speaker 4: That's not what I'm saying. I'm suggesting that with this
24:06
Speaker 4: kind of injury, it's not you're back on the floor
24:10
Speaker 4: and let's go 1,000% immediately out of the gate. I
24:14
Speaker 4: think there is some ramp-up time, and the Hornets are
24:16
Speaker 4: benefiting from the minutes they have him on the floor.
24:19
Speaker 4: Other players are being put in more their normal roles
24:23
Speaker 4: alongside of it. But clearly he's not 100% just yet.
24:27
Speaker 4: We're not quite seeing that same level of explosion consistently.
24:31
Speaker 4: I'll tell you, maybe the most encouraging thing I saw
24:34
Speaker 4: from Kobe is when he did sub out there in
24:36
Speaker 4: that last time of the fourth quarter, he is sprinting
24:39
Speaker 4: to the bench. He knows full well when his minutes
24:41
Speaker 4: are up, but he looks pretty fresh at that stage
24:45
Speaker 4: of the game, which to me says maybe there's a
24:47
Speaker 4: chance that he can continue to stretch those myths and
24:50
Speaker 4: continue to build up towards the normal Kobe White we
24:53
Speaker 4: were accustomed to seeing.
24:55
Speaker 7: Sam, what's your message to the fans right now that
24:57
Speaker 7: we hear from and just hypothetically any radio hosts out
25:01
Speaker 7: there that aren't freaking out but they might be panicking
25:05
Speaker 7: to some degree right now? What's your message to that
25:07
Speaker 7: group of folks about the start of the season?
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Speaker 4: My message would be that the world is a scary
25:14
Speaker 4: and confusing and stressful and at times exhausting place. But
25:17
Speaker 4: basketball is all of that, but in a good way.
25:20
Speaker 4: And so while the Charlotte Hornets are dealing with some
25:23
Speaker 4: things now between injuries and some poor shooting luck and
25:28
Speaker 4: running into teams at inopportune times, players seem to be
25:32
Speaker 4: getting hot just when the Hornets arrive. I think the
25:36
Speaker 4: fundamentals of this team are still really, really sound. We're
25:39
Speaker 4: seeing some improvement here in the turnover realm. We're still
25:44
Speaker 4: seeing this team be dominant on the glass. And guys
25:47
Speaker 4: that have been great shooters for two, three, four plus
25:50
Speaker 4: years in the NBA, some of them way longer than that,
25:54
Speaker 4: they don't suddenly turn it off. So the fact that
25:57
Speaker 4: Brandon Miller is shooting, I think, in the low 30s
26:00
Speaker 4: or high 20s from three mean that there's some weeks
26:03
Speaker 4: coming up here where he's going to be shooting 50%
26:05
Speaker 4: or better. The fact that Nas Reid is maybe a
26:09
Speaker 4: little under his percentages right now and still being super productive,
26:12
Speaker 4: I might add, he's capable of having a big jump here.
26:16
Speaker 4: So I think the stars are going to align for
26:18
Speaker 4: the Hornets. Obviously, injuries are something you've got to work through.
26:22
Speaker 4: But there's plenty of room for optimism. And most importantly,
26:25
Speaker 4: there's a lot of time in front of the Hornets.
26:28
Speaker 4: You might recall from last season, they started the season
26:30
Speaker 4: four and 14. I think they were 10 games under
26:33
Speaker 4: 500 in late December. This team is way far away
26:38
Speaker 4: from that. And I don't want them to touch it.
26:40
Speaker 4: But I think, you know, they're in a much better
26:42
Speaker 4: situation and position right now with a healthy Brandon Miller,
26:46
Speaker 4: with a healthy Nas Reid to start making that ascent
26:50
Speaker 4: hopefully sooner.
26:51
Speaker 6: I will say this, and I'm getting ready to ask
26:52
Speaker 6: you about LaMelo because you can only imagine how many
26:56
Speaker 6: times he's getting mentioned in text today. But I will
26:59
Speaker 6: say this, last year in the slow start, when they
27:02
Speaker 6: had Lomelo but didn't have Brandon and there were a
27:06
Speaker 6: couple other injuries, we were 2-9 in the first 11
27:10
Speaker 6: games Lomelo played last year. So I will point that out.
27:14
Speaker 6: But I will ask you the question, though, Sam, for
27:17
Speaker 6: fans that are seeing the offense struggle like this and
27:21
Speaker 6: are missing LaMelo Ball, who had such an effect on
27:24
Speaker 6: the offense. What would you I don't mean to keep
27:26
Speaker 6: putting you on the spot. Bone and I asking you
27:29
Speaker 6: to be the team spokesman. But give us the answers.
27:32
Speaker 6: But what would you what would you say to fans
27:35
Speaker 6: that are just like, man, that offense was so pretty
27:37
Speaker 6: with LaMelo?
27:40
Speaker 2: It was.
27:41
Speaker 4: But as you recall, and as you referenced there, it
27:44
Speaker 4: was pretty with LaMelo and Brandon Miller. Like that was
27:48
Speaker 4: really the accelerant when Brandon Miller got back on the floor,
27:52
Speaker 4: recovering from that shoulder injury, or at least to the
27:54
Speaker 4: extent he could play. But he had offseason shoulder surgery.
27:57
Speaker 4: So I kind of doubt that he was always 100
28:00
Speaker 4: percent perfect health. He just had that will and that
28:05
Speaker 4: drive to get back up there on the floor and
28:06
Speaker 4: overcome the injury. But getting back to the point, it's
28:10
Speaker 4: when he got back on the floor that things really
28:12
Speaker 4: took off. And so I see the potential for Brandon
28:16
Speaker 4: and Nas or those two plus Kobe White or those
28:20
Speaker 4: three plus Khan Kanipal. to be that accelerant and have
28:23
Speaker 4: things take off. There is no denying LaMelo is a
28:26
Speaker 4: tremendous player, creative passer. We love him. There's no ill
28:32
Speaker 4: will for him in that building whatsoever. And he's doing
28:37
Speaker 4: a good job right now without Anthony Edwards of continuing
28:40
Speaker 4: to keep that ship afloat. But that doesn't mean that
28:44
Speaker 4: Charlotte didn't get a huge haul here, an offer you
28:47
Speaker 4: can't refuse here. to make the deal. And again, it
28:52
Speaker 4: doesn't mean that they're not going to have their own
28:55
Speaker 4: assent here once they're able to get their stars aligned
28:58
Speaker 4: and hopefully get out of the shooting rut.
29:00
Speaker 7: Sam, celebrity text for you here. It says, Sam, stay
29:03
Speaker 7: strong in this weekly spot. Sincerely, Jim Zoki.
29:10
Speaker 2: I love Jim.
29:11
Speaker 4: Jim knows tough times as well. Sometimes it comes in sports.
29:17
Speaker 4: I think, again, the fundamentals of this team are in
29:20
Speaker 4: a really, really good place. They got veteran players with
29:23
Speaker 4: playoff experience who, frankly, have been through worse than five-game
29:27
Speaker 4: losing streaks in the past. So, It feels a little
29:30
Speaker 4: like the sky is falling because five losses in a
29:33
Speaker 4: row doesn't feel great, but it's a very small sample
29:37
Speaker 4: size in the grand scheme of the season. And sometimes
29:41
Speaker 4: momentum is only as good as the next day's starter.
29:43
Speaker 4: That's what they say in baseball. And so in basketball,
29:46
Speaker 4: a chance to have a good shooting night and a
29:48
Speaker 4: good performance in the Emirates NBA Cup tomorrow against Boston
29:52
Speaker 4: might be just what the doctor ordered. Some home cooking
29:54
Speaker 4: here for the Hornets.
29:55
Speaker 2: All right, Sammy.
29:56
Speaker 6: We appreciate you being here in the foxhole with us.
29:58
Speaker 6: Zoki has been in many a foxhole. We appreciate you
30:01
Speaker 6: being in a foxhole as well. So it's Boston tomorrow
30:06
Speaker 6: night at home if you're out there and you want
30:10
Speaker 6: a Friday night out. Appreciate you, Sam. Thanks so much, brother.
30:15
Speaker 4: And look, last season, one of the big turning points
30:18
Speaker 4: was the fans. It was the middle of that snowstorm
30:20
Speaker 4: where every weatherman in the city said, don't get out
30:23
Speaker 4: there on the roads, and everyone packed their plates, and
30:25
Speaker 4: Charlotte responded, the Hornets responded, and started putting together wins.
30:29
Speaker 4: So let's do it again. We'll see everyone at the
30:31
Speaker 4: Hive tomorrow night, Emirates NBA Cup action against Boston, and
30:34
Speaker 4: then again on Monday when they host the Cleveland Cavaliers. Awesome.
30:37
Speaker 2: Thank you, Sam. Appreciate you.
30:40
Speaker 4: Thank you, guys.
30:40
Speaker 2: Thank you, Sam.
30:41
Speaker 6: All right, here we go. Bone is in a back
30:43
Speaker 6: and forth defending Sam's.
30:44
Speaker 2: Honor right now.
30:45
Speaker 7: No, well, there's another guy on here that says, hang
30:48
Speaker 7: up on this caller. They thought Sam was just a
30:51
Speaker 7: guy that just called. He's the voice of the Hornets, man.
30:54
Speaker 2: Sam. We ain't going to read the text off for you,
30:56
Speaker 2: for your well-being, Sammy.
30:58
Speaker 6: But people are like, that was a great parallel, though,
31:01
Speaker 6: because when the Panthers are struggling and Zoki comes in
31:03
Speaker 6: on Monday, they act like he's responsible. And right now
31:07
Speaker 6: they're acting like Sam is responsible for missed shots and turnovers.
31:10
Speaker 7: And injuries a guy was questioning why did we put
31:13
Speaker 7: sam on after the loss he said it ain't the
31:15
Speaker 7: right day for sunshine i had to explain he's on
31:17
Speaker 7: every week he's on thursday just they happened to lose
31:19
Speaker 7: last night i get it but sir if you want
31:21
Speaker 7: to do the scheduling uh come on and we'll give
31:24
Speaker 7: you the keys to the car here.
31:25
Speaker 6: I would say this right now uh they've lost five
31:28
Speaker 6: in a row uh it's not you know what i
31:30
Speaker 6: mean like i feel like y'all would get i feel
31:31
Speaker 6: like y'all would get triggered any on any day right
31:33
Speaker 6: now But Sammy, Sirloin says Sam's the man. This dude said,
31:39
Speaker 6: people out here acting like Sam's the team trainer, the
31:42
Speaker 6: shooting coach, the head coach, and the GM.
31:45
Speaker 2: Get off the man's back, damn it.
31:50
Speaker 7: I want to give a shout-out, too, during that segment
31:52
Speaker 7: to Texter Everett's son, his son. His son, apparently a
31:57
Speaker 7: big fan of the Bone Man, said the other day,
32:00
Speaker 7: that Bone is a goofball. He's three years old and
32:04
Speaker 7: a fan of mine. There you go, Bone. That's your demo, baby.
32:07
Speaker 7: That's your demo, the little ones. That's not the same
32:10
Speaker 7: three-year-old that doesn't like Willie P.
32:12
Speaker 6: Don't we have kids that chant out T-Bone with their
32:14
Speaker 6: dad in the car?
32:15
Speaker 7: Yeah.
32:15
Speaker 2: Isn't that a thing that's happening right now?
32:17
Speaker 9: Yeah.
32:18
Speaker 2: You got that sound fitting?
32:19
Speaker 6: We got kids in the backseat yelling out T-Bone when
32:21
Speaker 6: the intro to the show plays.
32:22
Speaker 7: This is a girl I went to high school with. Caroline,
32:26
Speaker 7: her kids are Big Bot T-Bone fans. More T-Bone fans.
32:29
Speaker 2: Listen to this.
32:30
Speaker 8: T-Bone.
32:32
Speaker 2: It's Mack and Bone on your radio.
32:34
Speaker 9: T-Bone.
32:37
Speaker 6: Listen to that man man you found your demo baby
32:40
Speaker 6: i thought i had like a highbrow humor apparently i
32:43
Speaker 6: uh i skew to the uh kids that aren't even
32:46
Speaker 6: in in school yet they were in school but not
32:49
Speaker 6: everett son yeah oh.
32:50
Speaker 7: Man when we come back on the mac and bun
32:52
Speaker 7: show we're gonna open up granny's house mac for a
32:55
Speaker 7: roundtable talk who's coming through that door today weatherman mark
32:59
Speaker 7: weatherman mark granny pat next trying to figure out all
33:03
Speaker 7: these charlotte sports issues sports radio 92.7 WFNZ.
33:21
Speaker 2: Oh, man.
33:22
Speaker 6: One plot twist, Bone, that we have not even ventured
33:25
Speaker 6: into and we'll have to do before we get out
33:26
Speaker 6: of here is multiple national media members going after the Hornets.
33:31
Speaker 6: They used to love us, Bone. It wasn't that long
33:33
Speaker 6: ago that they loved us. We were their darlings.
33:35
Speaker 2: I need to check on Bill Simmons this morning.
33:36
Speaker 9: Oh, yeah.
33:37
Speaker 2: See what Simmons is saying. He's got to be on
33:38
Speaker 2: the ropes by now, right?
33:39
Speaker 6: Kevin O'Connor announced it's panic time in Charlotte with like
33:42
Speaker 6: a four paragraph.
33:44
Speaker 2: Tweet of fury. Oh, man.
33:47
Speaker 6: Anyway, let's focus here on the fans' voices in Charlotte.
33:52
Speaker 6: We're getting a bunch of texts today. You certainly have
33:54
Speaker 6: not been shy. Let's focus on the fan voices. Take
33:57
Speaker 6: a trip to Granny's house for the fan voices. Panthers
34:01
Speaker 6: fan roundtable, but this one might have to venture to
34:03
Speaker 6: the Hornets. This might have to be a Charlotte sports
34:06
Speaker 6: angst fan roundtable with the great Granny Pat and the
34:11
Speaker 6: equally great Weatherman Mark. Let's start with Granny. Granny, welcome back.
34:16
Speaker 6: What's going on? How are you holding up, Granny, with
34:18
Speaker 6: these Charlotte sports troubles?
34:20
Speaker 8: Hey, Mac Bone and lover boy.
34:24
Speaker 1: I think.
34:27
Speaker 8: Boy, you know, I just can't imagine a girl and
34:31
Speaker 8: him just making out. I just, I don't know.
34:36
Speaker 2: Do you think about that?
34:40
Speaker 8: I like him, so I do think about it. Look out,
34:44
Speaker 8: look out, Maddie. Maddie, yes. I got some new shine
34:49
Speaker 8: for our party, and it's bourbon flavor.
34:52
Speaker 2: Ooh, you're going to be having a hell of a time, Granny.
34:55
Speaker 8: Hell of a time. Mac, I think, and Bone, and Loverboy,
34:59
Speaker 8: I think it's going to be very difficult Sunday. I
35:04
Speaker 8: want them to win in the worst way because I
35:08
Speaker 8: can't stand Sean Payton. I know. I know. And I
35:12
Speaker 8: wish somebody would just push him. And the Sean Payton,
35:16
Speaker 8: he'll fall and can't come back.
35:21
Speaker 6: I love it, Granny. Let's do all the Sean Payton
35:24
Speaker 6: hate here. Let's bring in weatherman Mark, a man who
35:28
Speaker 6: has been venting on the text line already this morning. Mark,
35:32
Speaker 6: welcome back to the Fan Roundtable.
35:33
Speaker 2: How are you feeling?
35:35
Speaker 3: I'm all right, man. It's raining up here on the mountain.
35:38
Speaker 3: It's going to be cold this weekend coming back. Yeah,
35:43
Speaker 3: I'm a Sean Payton hater. I'm on the top A
35:47
Speaker 3: list of the Sean Payton hate list.
35:50
Speaker 2: I like it.
35:50
Speaker 7: All right.
35:51
Speaker 2: I'd like to take.
35:52
Speaker 1: Him outside behind me. He's got that face. He does
35:55
Speaker 1: have a face.
35:56
Speaker 3: If you want to take out behind my barn and
35:59
Speaker 3: just punch it.
36:01
Speaker 7: Oh, behind the barn. I would love it. No one
36:03
Speaker 7: can see it, just two men scrapping.
36:05
Speaker 6: Bone, when Sean Payton comes here this weekend, let's kidnap
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Speaker 6: him and let's drop him off behind the barn at
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Speaker 6: Mark's place.
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Mark, you ingrained.
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Speaker 4: He liked that.
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Speaker 2: Granny, I need to ask you more.
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Speaker 7: Granny's kind of focused on Finney smooching his woman.
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Speaker 2: Do you have thoughts about that, too?
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Speaker 7: Do you ever stop and think when you're behind the barn,
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Speaker 7: I wonder if Finney's kissing his woman?
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Speaker 3: No, I'm just proud for Fitty, man.
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Speaker 1: Congratulations, buddy. You deserve it, buddy.
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Speaker 9: There you go.
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Speaker 3: Every man deserves some good luck.
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Speaker 2: Why does no one ever say that to me? Why
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Speaker 2: does no one ever say that to me? No one
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Speaker 2: says that to me. I think people maybe thought Fitty
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Speaker 2: wasn't going to happen. He's a miracle, I guess. I
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Speaker 2: thought it wasn't going to happen. What are you talking about?
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Speaker 6: All right, let's go back to Granny. Let's start this
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Speaker 6: conversation off. And we can work the Hornets in a
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Speaker 6: little bit, too, since there's so much angst. Granny, how
36:59
Speaker 6: did you feel about the report from Mike Florio? Now,
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Speaker 6: it does sound like Mike K told KB, hey, I'm
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Speaker 6: not really hearing anything that any contract's imminent. But Mike
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Speaker 6: Florio made it seem like they were making some progress
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Speaker 6: towards a $ 50 million plus per year deal for Bryce.
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Speaker 6: How did that hit you, Granny?
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Speaker 8: I did not take it like that, Mac. I took
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Speaker 8: it as way down the road we might have something available.
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Speaker 8: And I didn't take it like y'all did.
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Speaker 2: You didn't take it the way it was meant to
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Speaker 2: be taken.
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Speaker 8: No, I did not. And all morning y'all were saying, oh,
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Speaker 8: I hope the offensive line is going to protect Bryce. Well, hell,
37:43
Speaker 8: get in some taller shoes. I mean.
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Speaker 2: What do you want to wear, platform shoes? What do
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Speaker 2: you want, your 70s shoes, Granny? Yeah, platform shoes like
37:54
Speaker 2: you used to wear to the disco clubs, Granny.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, forget that. He's got to see better. He's got
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Speaker 8: to see better.
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Speaker 6: How can he see when he's on his rear end?
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Speaker 6: They sacked him 11 times, Granny.
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Speaker 2: They're laying him down. Granny, there's a lot of games
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Speaker 2: where he sees well.
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Speaker 8: He can't see with the people in front of him.
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Speaker 2: All right, let me cut it.
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Speaker 8: I'd like to know.
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Speaker 2: It sounds like it. He can't see with people on
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Speaker 2: top of him.
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Speaker 6: All right, let's go to Weatherman Mark here, all right,
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Speaker 6: because Granny is a controversial take from Granny. Weatherman Mark,
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Speaker 6: you think all Bryce has to do is get some
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Speaker 6: platform shoes? What do you think about what Granny's saying?
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Speaker 3: He's got to get an offensive line. I mean, you
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Speaker 3: cannot allow– I mean, a PF rating– You know what
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Speaker 3: the PF rating for the time that Bryce has to
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Speaker 3: pass right now is? 1.2 to 1.9 seconds.
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Speaker 2: You can't.
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Speaker 1: That's it right there. That's the time you have.
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Speaker 2: Look at you. Look at Mark. Mark's got his own
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Speaker 2: advanced stat site, PF. PF.com. PF minus 1F.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you what I would do to
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Speaker 1: the offensive line.
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Speaker 3: We've got to change it and get him some protection.
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Speaker 3: I would move Monroe Freeling. to the left tackle, I'd
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Speaker 3: have Corey Bullock at my left guard. I'd get Fortner
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Speaker 3: out of the center position. Fortner cannot get the job
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Speaker 3: done at center. They need to bring in Mike Hecht,
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Speaker 3: get him there, and Robert Hunt needs to step up,
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Speaker 3: but he's going to still be my right guard. And
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Speaker 3: I would move Brady Christian forward.
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Speaker 1: To the right.
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Speaker 7: Where's Damian Lewis, though, in that group? Yeah, if Damian
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Speaker 7: Lewis gets healthy, he might not play. And what is
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Speaker 7: Mike Hecht's grade on P.F.
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Speaker 3: I have no idea at the moment, buddy. I'll be
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Speaker 3: honest with you, but it's got to be better than
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Speaker 3: this guy.
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Speaker 2: What if we got wild and put Sam Hecht in there?
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Speaker 6: It's his brother. Yeah, his brother Sam Hecht would be
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Speaker 6: really good. All right, get off the turbine, man, for
39:54
Speaker 6: a second here. I thought he was cooking a little bit.
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Speaker 6: I thought he was cooking a couple wrong ingredients. Let's
39:58
Speaker 6: go back to Granny. Granny, I've got to ask you
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Speaker 6: about this Hornets team. Are you angry at this Hornets team?
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Speaker 2: How are you feeling about it? Or is it just
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Speaker 2: early in the season and we should chill out?
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Speaker 8: I think we should chill out, although I personally enjoyed
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Speaker 8: watching Mello, even though I'm 80-something. I personally enjoyed watching him.
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Speaker 8: I miss seeing him, but he could be a pain
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Speaker 8: in the ass, so I don't know.
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Speaker 6: I feel like, Granny, you can handle a man notice
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Speaker 6: a pain in the rear, though.
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? I feel like you could
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Speaker 2: specialize in that.
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Speaker 8: I'll kick their butts, I tell you. I like to
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Speaker 8: watch them. I think they've got a great team. Disappointment
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Speaker 8: and cons.
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Speaker 6: I mean, he's getting hurt. We're disappointed he's hurt again, right?
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Speaker 6: But you're not blaming him, are you?
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Speaker 8: Listen, Max. I'm old. I've been watching football since I
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Speaker 8: was 14. Why so many damn teams have so many
40:58
Speaker 8: problems now? Everybody's getting hurt. They didn't do that 40
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Speaker 8: years ago.
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Speaker 6: The men are not, are you saying the men are
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Speaker 6: not built like they used to be back in Marvin's day,
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Speaker 6: your husband?
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Speaker 8: No, it's getting more specified. You know, you can't touch
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Speaker 8: this person.
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Speaker 7: It's just Granny, did you have thoughts on the rumored
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Speaker 7: Belichick-Hudson breakup?
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Speaker 8: I think, can you imagine him dating that girl and
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Speaker 8: her dating him and they are sitting across from each other?
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Speaker 8: I would throw up all day long.
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Speaker 2: Is that not as good as imagining Finney kissing? Is
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Speaker 2: this worse?
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Speaker 8: No. Fetty kissing is delightful.
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Speaker 2: Oh, my God. That'll be a drop that runs forever. Well, yeah,
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Speaker 2: it will.
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Speaker 6: All right, Weatherman Mark gets the final word here. Weatherman Mark,
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Speaker 6: granny's all over the place.
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Speaker 2: What's your reaction to any of that?
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Speaker 3: You know my reaction. I kind of agree with Bone.
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Speaker 3: We haven't seen the five yet play for the Hornets.
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Speaker 3: They're all injured. It seemed like one or two's all injured.
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Speaker 3: And did you guys notice Smoke and yesterday's KB show?
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Speaker 3: He cursed us last night, talking about, oh, we're going
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Speaker 3: to get another injury tonight.
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Speaker 1: Oh, Smoke, why did you do that?
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Speaker 2: Come on, Smoke.
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Speaker 6: Smoke's trying to steal my gig. I thought I was
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Speaker 6: the one that messed up Charlotte sports.
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Speaker 2: Come on, Smokey. Damn it.
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Speaker 6: This texter wants to know if weatherman Mark would date
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Speaker 6: a girl like Jordan Hudson.
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Speaker 1: I'm right now too old for that woman.
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Speaker 2: No, you're not, actually.
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Speaker 3: I would be her grandpa, and old Bill Bilicek, he
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Speaker 3: needs to find somebody his own age and quit playing around.
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Speaker 1: That's kind of nasty.
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Speaker 2: To me. Real quick, hey, Granny, one more thing. All right, Marky,
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Speaker 2: you're the man, Marky. Thank you, Marky.
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Speaker 7: Hey, Granny, we're trying to find Flounder some love, so
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Speaker 7: start working.
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Speaker 2: On that, okay?
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Speaker 8: Oh, you mean Flounder Day?
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: He's darling.
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Speaker 8: That won't be hard to do.
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Speaker 2: All right, Granny. Work on that for us.
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Speaker 4: There you go.
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Speaker 2: Granny is pumping up the fellas here. Thank you, guys.
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Speaker 2: That's Granny's house. Good job, Granny. We come back.
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