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55KRC Wednesday Show - Jack Atherton, AFP, CCVS, Susan Luken · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: 505-55KRC, the talk station. Happy Wednesday. Call Kenny Loggins because
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  Speaker 1: you're in the danger zone. Indeed. Happy Wednesday. Coming up
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  Speaker 1: at 5 or 6, 55 KRC Talk Station. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: for tuning in. Brian Thomas right here. Glad to see
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  Speaker 1: Joe Strecker, as always, where he belongs. Executive producer of
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  Speaker 1: the program. Liner upper of guesters. Including today, the big
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  Speaker 1: picture with Jack Atherton at 7.05. Thankfully, a normal Wednesday
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  Speaker 1: here on the 55 KRC Morning Show. Protesting federal elections.
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  Speaker 1: That is the subject matter. We'll learn from Jack Atherton
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  Speaker 1: what he means by all that. He breaks it down
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  Speaker 1: so wonderfully on a Wednesday at 7.05. Donald O'Neill, Americans
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  Speaker 1: for Prosperity, returns AFP's new push against, drumroll, maestro, socialism. Socialism.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe the craziness from the left is a gift to
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  Speaker 1: the conservatives among us. I don't know. And I hope
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  Speaker 1: people start paying attention on that, because I've got some
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  Speaker 1: points on that, too. Steve Belso, Clemmer County Veterans Services,
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  Speaker 1: he's in the 7 o'clock hour talking about Suicide Prevention Month.
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  Speaker 1: September is Suicide Prevention Month. God love the American veteran.
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  Speaker 1: Psychological struggles abound, and, of course, their suicide rate is
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  Speaker 1: much higher than the general population for a variety of reasons.
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  Speaker 1: That's why we have resources and help. Thankfully, the Claremont
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  Speaker 1: County Veterans Services is there with those resources, like other
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  Speaker 1: Veterans Service Commissions in each county. So Steve taking the
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  Speaker 1: helm at 740 to talk about suicide and what we
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  Speaker 1: can do about it, you and me, as well as
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  Speaker 1: the veteran community. Magistrate Susan Lucan. There's one worthy of
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  Speaker 1: a vote in November. Get out and vote. 805 with
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  Speaker 1: Susan Lucan. And, of course, now she's a magistrate, not
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  Speaker 1: a judge. I went off the rails on that one.
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  Speaker 1: I said out loud judge. Anyway, it was inadvertent last
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  Speaker 1: time she was on. Outstanding she is, does a wonderful
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  Speaker 1: job as a magistrate. All the information I've got about
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  Speaker 1: Susan Luecken is that she is absolutely worth your vote.
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  Speaker 1: And as I went through the various Signal 99 endorsements yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: she's across the board, got all the right people in
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  Speaker 1: her endorsement campaign. Check her out at Signal 99 on Facebook. And, again,
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  Speaker 1: Susan Lukin on that list. Looking forward to having her
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  Speaker 1: back on the show. 8.05, Judge Anna Napolitano. Not. First
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  Speaker 1: day ever, and I'm looking for my column. He always
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  Speaker 1: sends it sort of mid-afternoon, early in the afternoon hours,
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  Speaker 1: every day on Tuesday. So I have it in advance
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  Speaker 1: of the 8.30 discussion we have every week. No column.
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  Speaker 1: I started getting worried. It's like, how come I got
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  Speaker 1: no column from Judge Napolitano? Silence deafening. Found out this morning. Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I forgot to let everybody know I am out of
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  Speaker 1: the country. I am currently in Dubai on my way
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  Speaker 1: to Moscow. It's like, what the hell is he doing
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  Speaker 1: in Moscow? Draw your own conclusions. Maybe we'll find out
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  Speaker 1: from the judge when he returns on his 10-day vacation
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  Speaker 1: or journey, whatever the reason is there. Tomorrow, Congressman Warren Davidson,
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  Speaker 1: as is typical on a Thursday, as is always the
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  Speaker 1: case on a Thursday. I heard media aviation expert Jay Ratliff. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK.
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  Speaker 1: Go with pound 550 if you have an AT &
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  Speaker 1: T phone. Got something you want to talk about? Well,
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  Speaker 1: we're at it again. It's tit-for-tat time, apparently. This is
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  Speaker 1: what I think they're kind of calling it, tanker-for-tanker warfare.
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  Speaker 1: Hit new Iranian targets yesterday. Trump said the operation launched
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  Speaker 1: in retaliation for Iran's attempts to lay mines in the
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  Speaker 1: Strait of Hormuz. You heard that one before. And also,
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  Speaker 1: if we're targeting American service members in the Middle East,
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  Speaker 1: we have so many bases over there that the Iranians
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  Speaker 1: find it easy to start launching missiles at them, successful
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  Speaker 1: or otherwise. It's a threat to our American forces and,
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  Speaker 1: of course, to human life. And as Daniel Davis made
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  Speaker 1: a point the other day, something I hadn't really given
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  Speaker 1: much consideration to, yes, we have bases in, pick a country, Jordan.
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  Speaker 1: And one of the problems with that is the Jordanians,
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  Speaker 1: their government, their citizenry, are a little concerned Because the
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  Speaker 1: Iranians are firing missiles into their country. And they wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be if we didn't have a base in the country.
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  Speaker 1: So maybe a long-term stability impact because other countries may
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  Speaker 1: reconsider their idea of hosting U.S. bases. That was a
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  Speaker 1: point Daniel brought up yesterday. Draw your own conclusions. But
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  Speaker 1: a podcast available right there if you want to hear
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  Speaker 1: what the retired lieutenant colonel had to say for the
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  Speaker 1: deep dive yesterday, 55KRC. iheart. com. So obviously the fighting has picked
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  Speaker 1: up between us and the Iranians over the couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 1: We shot down or blew up some of the rocket
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  Speaker 1: bases when they were preparing to shoot rockets to lay
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  Speaker 1: mines in the Strait of Hormuz. And then they started
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  Speaker 1: launching rockets in Jordan. So here we have it again.
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  Speaker 1: More of these strikes hitting now the Iranian tankers. Trump's
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  Speaker 1: Truth Social Media post, if the failed nation of Iran
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  Speaker 1: retaliates for this attack, Very justified attack. They will be
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  Speaker 1: hit again at a much harder and higher level, but
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  Speaker 1: it will not be the biggest attack of them all.
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  Speaker 1: That is waiting in the wings. And when it's over,
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  Speaker 1: there will be very little left of the Islamic Republic
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  Speaker 1: of Iran. Close quote. Concluding with an exclamation point. I've
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  Speaker 1: heard threats like that before. You may recall them yourself.
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  Speaker 1: And with his social media posts with the artificial intelligence
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  Speaker 1: annihilation of Karg Island, You've got to wonder if that
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  Speaker 1: may be what he's talking about this time. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: he's trying to get the Iranians to back off and
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  Speaker 1: negotiate and settle this whole thing. Iranians obviously holding hard
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  Speaker 1: and fast on their position. Now, Navy Vice Admiral Kevin Donegan,
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  Speaker 1: he's retired, but he commanded the naval forces in the
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  Speaker 1: Middle East previously. He said the world knows the United
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  Speaker 1: States can clear the strait. That's important. It doesn't mean
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  Speaker 1: that all of a sudden you're going to go see
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  Speaker 1: goods flowing through there, but it sends a signal that
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  Speaker 1: once we get through whatever this is with the Iranians,
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  Speaker 1: the Strait can be used again. That, of course, is
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  Speaker 1: an obvious statement. We already have cleared out a multitude
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  Speaker 1: of the mines, and Trump has a couple of times
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  Speaker 1: declared the Strait completely mine-free. What happens? They just put
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  Speaker 1: more mines in the Strait. So we can achieve a
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  Speaker 1: mine-free Strait of Hormuz. That is easily obtainable. Maybe I'm
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  Speaker 1: boiling it down too easy since I don't know what's
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  Speaker 1: involved in mine sweeping, but it's been done. We can
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  Speaker 1: do it again. We just need to get the Iranians
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  Speaker 1: to quit doing it. And of course, Iran has not
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  Speaker 1: backed down. While attempting to lay mines, Iran continues firing
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  Speaker 1: on ships that are coordinating with the United States to
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  Speaker 1: get in and out of the Persian Gulf. We are
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  Speaker 1: ferrying boats through. And this is where I kind of
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  Speaker 1: ran into a little scratch my head and contemplated this.
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  Speaker 1: The journal pointed out in an analysis of this most
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  Speaker 1: recent tit-for-tat strikes, these strikes could ultimately help us maintain
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  Speaker 1: economic pressure on Iran, blowing up Iranian ships with their
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  Speaker 1: goods on them while having the ports closed and a
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  Speaker 1: long-going threat to the Iranians. Well, geez, they're just keep
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  Speaker 1: hitting the Iranian, they're hitting our ships. You send a
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  Speaker 1: ship to the bottom of the ocean, you're going to
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  Speaker 1: have to replace the ship in addition to whatever the
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  Speaker 1: hell is on it. But they say it threatens to
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  Speaker 1: bog the United States military down in a protracted conflict.
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  Speaker 1: And the Journal reports that more than 50,000 American service
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  Speaker 1: members are and will remain in the Middle East to
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  Speaker 1: execute this blockade of the Iranian ports while also helping
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  Speaker 1: to ferry commercial vessels through the strait. And we have
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  Speaker 1: proudly been doing that. It's been widely announced. Just go
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  Speaker 1: through the southern side of the strait. You've got the
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  Speaker 1: United States military ferrying you through. We'll get you through.
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  Speaker 1: We'll keep you free from the mines. And that has
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  Speaker 1: worked to some degree, but yesterday with the Iranians firing
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  Speaker 1: on Saudi ships and Liberian flag tankers hitting them, not
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  Speaker 1: always successful. And, of course, laying more mines. Now, with
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  Speaker 1: all that military might and resources, I just thought, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Are we getting paid for this? Now, on one side,
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  Speaker 1: you might say, well, the United States launched the attacks
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  Speaker 1: against the Iranians. The Iranians responded by closing the strait.
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  Speaker 1: This is something of the United States making, that the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the world relies on the strait. They're now
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  Speaker 1: looking at the United States to clean up the mess
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  Speaker 1: or otherwise take care of it and open it back up.
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  Speaker 1: But we are providing this amazing, overwhelming military support to
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  Speaker 1: keep their boats going through. Like I said, yesterday, the
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  Speaker 1: Saudi oil tankers were hit by rockets. Another musician, the
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  Speaker 1: Liberian flag tanker, also hit by three rockets off the
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  Speaker 1: coast of Oman. Fired at them by, right, the Iranians.
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  Speaker 1: Are those our ships?
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  Speaker 2: Nope.
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  Speaker 1: Is it our oil?
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  Speaker 3: Nope.
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  Speaker 1: Their goods, their goods and their ships. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: we're getting paid for our police work. It's kind of
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  Speaker 1: like us acting as the police force for all of
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  Speaker 1: the NATO countries in Europe. I don't think we got
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  Speaker 1: paid for that either. It allowed them to kick back
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  Speaker 1: and rely on our police department to take care of
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  Speaker 1: them and their security while they spent all that extra
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  Speaker 1: money on stupid things like green energy projects or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: That hasn't worked out real well as a choice either
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  Speaker 1: for the Europeans, but that's a completely separate subject matter.
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  Speaker 1: So those two tankers that were hit going through the
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  Speaker 1: southern reaches of the strait, According to Maersk, which advises
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  Speaker 1: over maritime risk, the near simultaneous incidents, those two boats
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  Speaker 1: getting hit at the same time or roughly the same time,
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  Speaker 1: represent a further escalation on the threat environment within the
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  Speaker 1: Omani Corridor. The incidents also further undermine any assumption that
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  Speaker 1: the Omani Corridor represents a reliably protected lower risk passage.
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  Speaker 1: This is the mayors folks say listen you know uh
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  Speaker 1: say you clear the mines the mines are a problem
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  Speaker 1: but they can be replaced we have to weigh that
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  Speaker 1: risk against losing billions of dollars in product and ships
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  Speaker 1: but you don't need mines necessarily because the iranians and
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  Speaker 1: those pesky little so-and-sos have well easily obtainable drones and
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  Speaker 1: other means of hitting ships that are floating on top
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  Speaker 1: of the water That's what they hit with yesterday. So
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  Speaker 1: as long as the Iranians are there and as long
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  Speaker 1: as they're capable of doing this and as long as
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  Speaker 1: they can withstand this economic chokehold, will any of these
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  Speaker 1: shipping companies be able to relax and say, okay, it's
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  Speaker 1: safe now? Now, there's never ever a freedom from all risks.
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  Speaker 1: This is why we have insurance. So do the ships.
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  Speaker 1: And the price of insurance gone through the roof because,
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  Speaker 1: of course, the risk is elevated. That's what actuaries do.
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  Speaker 1: They're rolling the dice every time they try to send
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  Speaker 1: one through, even with U.S.
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  Speaker 4: Support.
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  Speaker 1: And yesterday demonstrated, even with U.S. support, those boats can
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  Speaker 1: be hit, maintaining the instability of it. And, of course,
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  Speaker 1: the long-term costs, which can't be overlooked. I see Carl's
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  Speaker 1: on the phone. Got other callers calling in. Feel free
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  Speaker 1: to hold on, please, Carl. If you don't mind, love
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  Speaker 1: to take your call.
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  Speaker 4: 513-749-5500.
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  Speaker 1: 800-823-TALK. Down to 550 on AT & T phones. We'll
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  Speaker 1: be right back. 55KRC, the talk station. Happy Wednesday. First
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  Speaker 1: Wednesday of the September month, but not listener lunch day.
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  Speaker 1: It's next Wednesday because of the holiday next Monday and
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  Speaker 1: everything else that's going on. We're going to be at
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  Speaker 1: the Turf Club opening just for us. Normally not open
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  Speaker 1: on a Wednesday for lunchtime. Looking forward to the Turf
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  Speaker 1: Club and a burger as big as your face. Over
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  Speaker 1: to the phones. Carl was kind enough to hold. Carl,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for holding. Welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 5: Good morning, Brian. Today I have an update for the
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  Speaker 5: people who have been affected by the flooding here in Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 5: The City of Cincinnati Department of Opportunity and Residence Services,
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  Speaker 5: also known as DORS, has issued a three-page document pertaining
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  Speaker 5: to how the funds are going to be distributed to
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  Speaker 5: And it's called the Supplemental Emergency Flood Relief 2026. Now,
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  Speaker 5: I tried to perform an Internet search on this last
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  Speaker 5: evening to find out where residents could go to a website, perhaps,
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  Speaker 5: and get a copy of this form or read it.
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  Speaker 5: And I was unable to find anything on the city's website.
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  Speaker 1: Shocking no one, I imagine.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: This document was produced in August of 2026. And basically
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  Speaker 5: it says, you know, if you were impacted by the
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  Speaker 5: July flood events but have not been contacted by the city,
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  Speaker 5: please call 513-323-7995 for assistance. Now, it also says for
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  Speaker 5: questions about your flood relief status, contact the Department of
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  Speaker 5: Opportunity and Resident Services at 513-352-6146. And if there's anybody
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  Speaker 5: from the media listening to us this morning, they might
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  Speaker 5: want to call that number and obtain a copy of
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  Speaker 5: this document.
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  Speaker 1: Carl, that's an excellent point. I'm glad you made it.
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  Speaker 1: Did you by any chance call either of those numbers
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  Speaker 1: and ask where the supplemental emergency flood relief document is?
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  Speaker 5: No, I just received this document last night at the
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  Speaker 5: community council meeting. Um, and I was, I was thinking
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  Speaker 5: about calling that second number. Now the first number was
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  Speaker 5: the same number that I gave out on your radio
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  Speaker 5: show about a month ago. I called your radio show.
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  Speaker 5: The city manager's office had issued a press release giving
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  Speaker 5: out that number.
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  Speaker 1: The three, two, three, seven, nine, nine, five number.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. Okay.
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  Speaker 5: And that's only for people who haven't registered yet who, um,
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  Speaker 5: now the document is in a question and answer format here. Um,
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  Speaker 5: You might be entitled to some money and not even
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  Speaker 5: know you are entitled to some money.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And I will go to item number eight. It's in the,
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  Speaker 5: like I said, question and answer format. And it says,
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  Speaker 5: my car was damaged in the July flood events. Can
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  Speaker 5: I get relief through this program? And the answer is,
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  Speaker 5: please submit the form for consideration and DOORS staff will
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  Speaker 5: review your individual circumstances.
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  Speaker 1: Claim by claim analysis.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: I'm wondering that if you were from perhaps Kentucky and
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  Speaker 5: you were over here and you were caught up in
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  Speaker 5: this mess and visiting a friend here in Cincinnati, if
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  Speaker 5: you might not be eligible for this.
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  Speaker 1: I'd have to see the details of the program. Carl,
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  Speaker 1: one of the questions I was going to ask you,
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  Speaker 1: obviously there is a pile of money, funds to fund
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  Speaker 1: the reimbursement for the damages program. Do you have any
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  Speaker 1: idea how much money is available? Because it's got to
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  Speaker 1: be a finite sum.
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  Speaker 5: I'm hearing $ 2 million at this point.
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  Speaker 1: $ 2 million?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: I'd probably cover maybe one block's worth of claims, if
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Carl.
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  Speaker 7: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Now, your claim would be a grant and does not
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  Speaker 5: need to be paid. And like I said before, if
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  Speaker 5: you're already participating in the sewer backup program, you don't
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  Speaker 5: need to contact them at that number. Then is this
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  Speaker 5: taxable income? Well, it says that residents should contact their
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  Speaker 5: tax professional first. are there any restrictions on how the
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  Speaker 5: funds may be used? No, there are no restrictions about
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  Speaker 5: on how reciprocants may use the funds. I think some
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  Speaker 5: people are going to be visiting the casino and, uh,
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  Speaker 5: will the city require receipts or documentation on how the
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  Speaker 5: funds are spent? No, no.
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  Speaker 1: I was waiting for that. Will there be any oversight?
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  Speaker 1: It's of course not.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 5: Now renters are, um, eligible for this program also along
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  Speaker 5: with businesses.
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  Speaker 1: Renters?
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  Speaker 5: As long as you were impacted by the July 17th
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  Speaker 5: or July 21st flood events. Now, can multiple occupants of
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  Speaker 5: a residence get relief through this program? No, it's on
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  Speaker 5: a per household basis. And then I spoke about the
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  Speaker 5: car and then it says, if I receive assistance now,
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  Speaker 5: will that affect future city assistance programs?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and then also, Carl, here's a complicating factor. With
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  Speaker 1: car damage, you know, people typically have automobile insurance, which
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  Speaker 1: will cover for damages along these lines. What's primary and
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  Speaker 1: what's secondary? If you get money from this fund to
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  Speaker 1: reimburse you for your car damage, will the insurance company
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  Speaker 1: have a right to subrogation over that money since it
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  Speaker 1: already paid you for the damage through the policy?
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  Speaker 5: I was wondering the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And I would argue probably yes.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: If you've gotten reimbursed from the insurance company, you've gotten
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  Speaker 1: reimbursed through this fund from the city, that's a double payment.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody's going to get repaid back, and I guarantee you
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  Speaker 1: the folks in the subrogation department at the insurance company
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  Speaker 1: being the ones filing that claim. Wow. Well, you have
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  Speaker 1: revealed a very complicated process brought to us by our
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  Speaker 1: elected officials. I wouldn't even know where to start if
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  Speaker 1: I was impacted. Document's not out there. We've got multiple
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  Speaker 1: confusing questions, which doesn't shock me, and only $ 2 million
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  Speaker 1: to buy poll in the fund, Carl. Something just suggests
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  Speaker 1: maybe this isn't going to work out real well. But
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate you bringing the information to the listening audience. Again,
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  Speaker 1: I'll give you that number if you've been impacted. I
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  Speaker 1: guess it's 513-323-7995. Light them up and somebody find out
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  Speaker 1: where this supplemental emergency flood relief document is. Pause for
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  Speaker 1: a moment. It's 525 right now. Bobby's on the phone.
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  Speaker 1: He's got a comment and we have local stories. Any
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  Speaker 1: other phone calls want to come in? We'll take those
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  Speaker 1: as well. I'll be right back. The NFL is back. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK.
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  Speaker 1: And as a reminder, 55KRC. iHeart. com. Get your iHeartMedia app stream
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  Speaker 1: on a guy named marcus coleman speaking with the house
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  Speaker 1: judiciary subcommittee on immigration integrity security and enforcement his daughter
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  Speaker 1: got hit by one of these illegal immigrants and permanently
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  Speaker 1: disabled or causing her to become paralyzed she was five
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  Speaker 1: when it happened she had learned how to reread or
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  Speaker 1: relearn how to read can't walk this guy lit up
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  Speaker 1: my social media. The only social media presence I have, Facebook,
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  Speaker 1: was going to say his name is Marcus Coleman and
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  Speaker 1: put an exclamation point on it. Who's Marcus Coleman? Yeah,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: just go ahead and search engine it. Marcus Coleman, House
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  Speaker 1: Judiciary Subcommittee statement. Lit him up. And if you get
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  Speaker 1: a chance to watch the video, the split screen is
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  Speaker 1: the best because they have the panel of Democrats sitting
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: there as he is torching them. rejecting their sympathy, as
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  Speaker 1: he said. There's no way you guys are sorry, as they,
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  Speaker 1: of course, expressed sympathy to him because of what happened
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  Speaker 1: to his daughter. And she was there. He kept pointing
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  Speaker 1: at her. This is what you did. Your sanctuary city
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: policies did this to my girl, did this to our family.
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  Speaker 1: Just lit them up, and they had nothing to say.
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  Speaker 1: They couldn't say anything. They stood there motionless, staring at him.
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  Speaker 1: Not deer in the headlights stare. It's just like, please, God,
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  Speaker 1: get me out of this room stare because he was
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: merciless and accurate. Marcus Coleman. Props. Cheers. Bobby, welcome to
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  Speaker 1: the morning show. Thanks for indulging me while I went
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: on that. What's going on today, Bobby?
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Faith flag family and i hope you can fill the blanks.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: In i know firearms good one but not but not
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: with everybody's running around outside uc and uc college of
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: medicine was yesterday got another shooting right there murder.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Had a murder there and had another one also yesterday shooting.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 3: It's not going to get any better, my brother.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's not.
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  Speaker 3: You know, and I'll tell you what, until all the
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: people get on there, doesn't want to tell the truth,
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: doesn't want to tell the problems and can't correct the problems.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: There's a boot I got for it from kicking the
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: can down the street all the time. They can correct
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: the problem. They don't want to. All it is a
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: can kicking. Well, same rhetoric, same talk. And they don't
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: want to correct the problem.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Well, the they I presume you're referring to as our
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: elected officials and their policies, most notably being very, very
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: soft on juveniles who then go out and become adult criminals.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: But also they also includes parents. And apparently parents don't
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: really give a wit where their kids are. Just absolutely nothing.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: If you're law enforcement also there, they're not. How in
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: the world can they do their job when they're not
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: supported downtown?
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 1: That's the elected official part.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: And you're running a 30% deficit.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: Where's the money?
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: City managers like Sheryl Long telling the police department how
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: to do their job. You know, Judge Bloom in the
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: juvenile court telling the, I guess, the rest of the
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: juvenile court judges that they, I guess, cannot hold juvenile
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: kids accountable for the crimes that they've committed. Word's gotten out, man,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: parents who don't care if their kids are involved in
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: the criminal justice system or avoiding the criminal justice system
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: because of the policies in downtown. Obviously, he's not going
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: to hold them accountable. You know, maybe the parents are
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: the same mind as the kids. Yeah, well, I'm under 18.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: I won't be doing any time. Well, little junior. Yeah,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: he's involved with law enforcement. They picked him up again
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  Speaker 1: for loitering at two o'clock in the morning downtown. But
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: since the criminal justice system isn't going to give him
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: a record, I'm not going to worry about it or
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: tell him he needs to mind himself. And yeah, it's
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: a vicious downward spiral, Bobby.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: They're not going to correct the problem. They just kick
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: the can. Because if they tell the truth, there's nothing
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: they're going to do with the young people anyway. They're
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: not going to hold them. I can tell you exactly
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: how it works. It doesn't work. They know it doesn't work.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: We're living the reality of it doesn't work. And as
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: I pointed out yesterday, this seems to be like sort
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: of phase one to this get rid of the police
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: and the criminal justice system mentality of the Democrat Socialists
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: of America. Look what happened out west in California when
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: they decriminalized shoplifting up to less than $ 1, 000. Oh, wow.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: I guess people got the word on that. Look at
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: the streets of Portland and Seattle, and look how terrible
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: those streets became after they sort of decriminalized really anything.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: It just becomes a nightmare, and this is the reality
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: you're going to be living if you vote for the
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: DSA or you vote for any Democrat candidate because none
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: of them have disavowed this DSA nonsense.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: I'll put it this way, Brian, and it's real simple.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: And I know you probably haven't driven that way, but
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: take 75 South, go into the city of Cincinnati, take
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Mitchell Avenue, okay? You can either turn right or left.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. Just look there and look around right
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: there before you turn left or right. Feel garbage everywhere.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: homeless people standing out there. That's a real nice way
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: to look at the city of Cincinnati. Then when you
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: turn left, head down Vine Street. This will start walking.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: Would you take your wife to take a nice stroll
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: for about a couple hours down that way?
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: No.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: People don't want to know what's going on. They turn
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: their head the other way. And the only recommendation I
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: could give to you and all the other people of Cincinnati,
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: stay out of the city. And if you go in
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: the city, you better be healed. And if you don't,
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: you put your own life at your own risk. There
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: you go.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: There you go. Those are facts. New national survey out
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: by Georgetown University. One-third of gun owners have used a
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: firearm in self-defense. There's an interesting little stat I can
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: throw at the tail end of that conversation, Bobby. I
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: hear where you're coming from, Bobby, and I don't know.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: If I gave it some thought, maybe I could come
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: up with a point of disagreement. But as the words
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: come out of your mouth and as I'm receiving them,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I can't argue with you, at least at this moment
• 24:03
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  Speaker 8: Don't vote Democrat.
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  Speaker 3: There it is.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: In the absence of Tom Live, a sound bite might suffice.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: And that sound device. Sound bite with sound device.
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  Speaker 7: 513-749-5500-800-823-TALK.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: 550 on AT & T phone. What's in a name?
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Hmm.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Jessica Straubel, that's the name, but a.k.a. Crooked Jess. Police
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: erroneously decide to trust Crooked Jess with $ 60 of their
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: money with instructions to go to a known house of, well,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: drug dealing to buy some crack cocaine. So they give
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: her $ 60 of these instructions, go in, do a buy,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: and come back out and, well, hand us the narcotics.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Crooked Jess, which direction do you think this went? Anyway,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: 41-year-old Straubel, who looks like a Faces of Meth shot here,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: walked over to the St. Petersburg residence that facilitates transactions
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: for illicit narcotics, disappeared into the backyard of the property.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: After more than an hour wait, which the police described
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: as a reasonable amount of time to wait for another
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: narcotics transaction to occur, The deputy concluded that Straubel had
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: no intentions of coming back to facilitate the transaction and
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: had deprived the police department of the money for her
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: own use. They canvassed the neighborhood looking for Crooked Jess,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: but since she had no phone, the police officer specifically said,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I had no way to get in contact with her
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: to inquire about her whereabouts. Deputy William Morrow. According to
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: the reporting here, several months went by before the cops
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: finally found Crooked Jess arrested over the weekend for ripping
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: off the undercover agent. Charged with possession of drug paraphernalia
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: in addition to the charge of ripping off the police
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: department because the officer found fentanyl residue on a piece
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: of aluminum foil, quote, located within the defendant's undergarments.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: Idiots doing idiot things because they're idiots.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: What do you get for this? You get locked up
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: in lieu of a $ 650 bail because, well, as a
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: methamphetamine addict who would rip police officers off to support
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: their habit, you don't have $ 650. All right, Joe, we've
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: got a couple of walkaways here. Let's start in Bradford County, Florida.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Bradford County Sheriff's Post releasing a statement saying officers got
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: called to a residence 530 in the morning. by a
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: man who said his sister told him their mom. Try
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: to work with me on this. Anyway, it was reported
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: that 42-year-old Stephanie Johnson killed her boyfriend, a guy named
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: David Worbleski. Whatever. Cops got to the residence. Police found
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Johnson standing outside. She said, quote, it's me, and we
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: have been fighting for days, close quote. The guy was
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: found inside suffering from a gunshot wound to his abdomen.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: He was pronounced dead at the scene. Now, this woman, Johnson,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: told police she'd been with this guy for around four years,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: but the relationship had gone south, and he, quote, screamed
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: at her throughout the night, close quote, prior to her
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: murdering him. The argument occurred when both parties were nude
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: because they had just had sexual intercourse just before the fight.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Johnson apparently grabbed the gun during the argument, pointed at
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: this guy, Wroblowski, who in response said, I don't give
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: an F word, shoot me, close quote. Johnson took him
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: up on him. She shot him and then told police
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: that she then took a diazepam pill and smoked part
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: of David the Dead Guy's marijuana joint. And here's where
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: any good lawyer would have told her she really screwed up.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: At least she was honest. She told police... And I'll interject,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: in spite of the fact that she used deadly force,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: that she did not fear for her life and that
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: this guy had never been violent toward her. Arrested and,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: of course, charged with second-degree murder. Idiots doing idiot things
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: because they're idiots. And we'll go to Utica, New York,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: where a guy's been arrested following a reported domestic relation
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: incident in an apartment. Utica Police Department. Officers responded at
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: 3.20 in the afternoon, August 28th, got there. Officers were
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: met by several parties who stated a guy began to
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: argue with his child's mother, baby mama. And during the
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: course of the argument, family members attempted to intervene. As
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: one of the parties was holding a small infant, the
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: male began to push and strike members of the group.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Police then said the man allegedly tried to hit others
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: with a television set before being restrained by family members.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Najam Allen, 22, arrested, placed in handcuffs, taken out of
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: the apartment. He was under an active order of protection
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: involving the victim. Of course, this had happened before. He's
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: been charged with criminal contempt, harassment, and endangering the welfare
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: of a child. Thank you, exclamation point, words to live by.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: It's just not worth it. And don't tell me. Something
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: about respect and disrespect. God almighty.
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  Speaker 2: 545.
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• 29:50
  Speaker 1: record many times In the digital world in which we live,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: and you're never going to get rid of something that's
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: once digitally imprinted, goes off into the cloud, available there
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: for a hacker to get or somebody else to get
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: or someone to use as a mechanism of extortion, don't
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: take pictures of yourself having sex and naked. I don't
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: understand this whole phenomenon of taking pictures of your junk
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: and sending it to random people. It's just, what? I mean,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: you know it goes on, Joe.
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: Why?
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Great illustration of why not to do it. Miami-Dade County,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Florida is where we go. A 19-year-old woman has been
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: accused of extorting a guy after learning that he had
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: a girlfriend. Natalie Rodriguez-Gonzalez arrested and charged with extortion. She
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: met a man while working as a waitress, and the
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: two engaged in a romantic relationship. They went out for
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: a few dates. In that point, she discovered that this
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: guy had a girlfriend for, in the words of the report,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: the entire time they were together. So Rodriguez-Gonzalez began sending
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: threatening texts to the guy, asking for $ 20, 000, saying if
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: he didn't send her the money, she would up it
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: to an additional $ 5, 000. She also threatened to send, here
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: we go, intimate photos of the man to his girlfriend,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: who also happened to be his business partner. Rodriguez-Gonzalez also
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: claimed that she would post the photos to social media. Now,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: my first question, is it real or is it artificial intelligence?
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: If it's AI generated, I'm sure you can prove that
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: that's not your naked body there. How would artificial intelligence
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: know what you look like underneath your clothes? But in
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: this particular case, it's pretty evident these are real pictures.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Going back to my point, if you didn't take them
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: in the first place, you can't get extorted. You moron.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: And noting, as I have many times, every time I
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: see one of these divorce cases where the ex-husband and
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: wife absolutely hate each other, um, They didn't at one point.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Things were all going along great. You want to keep
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: that in mind, too. Oh, this is OK. I can
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: take pictures because we're going to be together forever. I
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: love you, honey. Yeah, right. OK. Anyway, the guy refused
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: to pay, so she sent one of the pictures to
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: that girlfriend and business partner. Adding this will genuinely get
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: posted if he doesn't wire me my money, by the way.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: She posted a censored version of the photo on tick tock.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: while also continuing to send threatening messages to this guy,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: give me my money or I will escalate this worse.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I want my money. Along with, if he doesn't wire
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: me the money, his, well, I'll just say the word, junk.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Depicted in the photograph, apparently, will get posted, followed by
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: your face, girlfriend, and his face. Remember, I was trying
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: to scam him, she said. I'm finally getting to it. Well,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: She gave a full confession to the police department after
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: being taken into custody, being held now on a $ 7, 500 bond.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Idiots doing idiot things because they're idiots. And maybe an
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: award to give out. I think definitely an award to
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: give out in this particular case. West Virginia, Cable County,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: where a man's pleaded guilty to installing cameras in his home.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: 59-year-old Darrell Wells pleaded guilty to felony wiretapping after admitting
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: he secretly recorded a foreign exchange student living in his home.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: described as a 17-year-old female exchange student from Brazil who
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: was staying with his family. Part of the plea agreement,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: he admitted to recording the student using a camera, here
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: we go, disguised as a towel hanger in her bathroom
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: and throwing another camera in her bedroom. Now, this is
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: the part that always wigs me out. I guess they
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: probably make a towel hanger that, has a camera built
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: into it. And if you disagree with me and you
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: think that's preposterous, go to Amazon and type in something
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: like spy cameras. He also installed another camera in her bedroom.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Apparently he was working as a mechanic for a Cable
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: County Schools at the time. Initially charged with production of
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: child porn, which carried a man to a maxatory prison
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: sentence of 15 years. I think that's why he decided
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: to plead guilty. Entering into a plea agreement, which included
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: him surrendering his electronic agreement and registering as a sex
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: offender for life. Now facing a prison sentence of two
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: and a half to five years, he's free on bond
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: and scheduled to be back in court, I guess, for
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: sentencing on December 14th. Of course, judge does not have to, well,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: agree to the recommended sentencing if the prosecution said, well,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: give him two and a half years, he copped to
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: the charge, saved us the cost of trial. Well, if
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: there's an eligible for up to five years in prison,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: the judge can certainly do that. In this particular case,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: I hope he's in there for five years. These are
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: the type of people we need to make illustrations of
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: and examples of. Maybe, going back to downtown Cincinnati and
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: the whole concept of criminal prosecutions and hard prison sentences
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: being a deterrent to crimes. That's why I always like
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: to talk about these perverts that have been caught with
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: child pornography online. There's a whole database out there, and
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: the feds are watching you. Not closely enough for my mind,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: but if you're out there and you're willing to engage
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: in this, I want the whole world to know about it.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: I want every single prisoner in the prison where you're
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: going to be spending time to know exactly what you did.
• 35:13
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• 35:20
  Speaker 9: all the galaxies, there's no bigger douche than you. You've
• 35:25
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• 35:51
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  Speaker 1: line of defense quite often. We'll hear from Steve on
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: that coming up at 740. I hope you can stick around.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: At the top of the hour, get the Top D
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Talk Station. It's 606- The 55KRC, the talk station. Brian
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Thomas wishing everyone a very happy Wednesday. A reminder, next
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Wednesday for Listener Lunch, be at the Turf Club. Open
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: it up just for the Listener Lunch crew. Normally not
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: open on a Wednesday, so thanks to the Turf Club.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Love that spot. Hope you can see. I hope I
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: see you next Wednesday. In the meantime, coming up, one hour,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: a big picture with Jack Atherton, protesting federal elections. We'll
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: find out together what Jack means by that. Always a
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: very thoughtful, insightful analysis, usually steeped in history. Donovan Neal,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Americans for Prosperity, returns as he does every Wednesday at 7.30.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Today we're going to talk about the push against socialism.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: I've got some words about that here in a moment.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Steve Belzo, Claremont County Veteran Services. September is Suicide Prevention Month.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Steve's going to talk about that, hitting the veteran community
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: particularly hard, which just always breaks my heart. I love
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: what Steve and the folks at Claremont County Veteran Services
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: are doing, and I really appreciate him coming on the
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: show to pass that information along to my veteran listening audience.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Magistrate Susan Lukin. Magistrate Luke, and we'll be honest, 805,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: I really think she's fantastic. I've heard nothing but wonderful
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: things about her. And, of course, has a really sound
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: understanding of the juvenile court systems and the current problems
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: with it under the control of Judge Bloom. You've got
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: a better choice. You've got a better option. Speaking of that,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: over at my blog page, 55KRC. com, all the choices there
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: that I'm strongly recommending, the same ones that Signal 99
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: produced on her page and endorsed, Right there, Joe Strecker
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: edited to the page, so solid group of possibilities out there,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: which of course are different than the DSA and the
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: woke leftists who have ruined our country and are in
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: the process of further undermining it. Anyway, over there, FOP
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: President Ken Cobra about the violence in and around downtown Cincinnati,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: which has well continued. Got somebody shot over by the
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: UC Medical Center yesterday. Terrible, terrible reality going on. But
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: I just want to make a quick point here because
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: I mentioned it in passing to Bobby, who faith, family, flag,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: and freedom, and used to always say firearms, so I
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: interjected that. It's important that you have one. Are you
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: your brother's keeper? I guess my thoughtful analysis on this
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: is you, without one, are a gun-free zone. And if
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: you have one, you have eliminated the idea of a
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: gun-free zone. You're at least in a possible position to
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: protect yourself, your family, and members of the community. We
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: saw that with the In-N-Out Burger Shooter, right? Guy's going crazy,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: murdering people, and a citizen with a firearm comes up,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: and he, by all accounts, stopped further bloodshed because he
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: started unloading at the murderer. Not bad. Apparently it happens
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: all the time. This was Georgetown University, a guy named
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: William English. He's, I guess, a professor there. He did
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: some number crunching and determined, based upon information out there,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: over one-third of American gun owners have used a firearm
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: in self-defense. This is me. Nationally representative sample of 51,398
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: individuals during the months of July and August of this year.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Defensive use of firearm is a subheading under this larger abstract.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Reveals 37.6% of gun owners or approximately 33.1 million adult
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Americans used a gun defending themselves, their property, a family member,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: or a member of their household. In most cases, this
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: is the point. Listen, I'm one of those people. 76.3%
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: of those cases, the gun isn't even fired. Again, that's me.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: That happened to me. I had one. I was ready
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: to use it. I was scared for my life. legitimately
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: so fortunately didn't have to use it the best thing
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: that happened that day was the fact that i didn't
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: have to shoot somebody pointed out the mere brandishing of
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: a firearm is often sufficient to end the threat three
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: quarters of defensive gun users occurred outside the home again
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: me slightly over half 50.8 the gun uh the gun
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: owner is facing multiple assailants The other thing that was
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: revealed on this, 60 million so-called, as the Democrats label them,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: assault weapons, modern sporting rifles, the appropriate term. And the
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: reason they own them? Home defense. And that's a great
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: reason to own one. Outstanding home defense weapon. You just
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: got to worry about what's on the other side of
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: the drywall. But, you know, I'll leave it to your
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: own devices when deciding which firearm you need for personal protection.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: But there you have it. A lot of people using
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: them to defend themselves. Just happened the other day, like
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: the In-N-Out Burger, we have a, we go to Cedar Hill, Texas,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: got an alleged bank robber is no longer with us. Why? Well,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: after coming in armed with a knife and demanding money
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: from the bank employees, there was an armed customer right there,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: pulled out his gun and shot the robber. Apparently that
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: guy then fled the bank, bleeding presumably, found outside by
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: responding officers, taken to the hospital and died. doing what
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: you should do in any situation like this. The armed
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: customer waited on the scene, cooperated with police, and the
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: investigation in the matter is ongoing.
• 41:19
  Speaker 7: Hmm.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Another fun fact from the Center for Disease Control and Prevention.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Guns are used for defensive issues. Going back to the
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: broader survey, over time, any firearm owner, 37.6% have used
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: them while owning them.
• 41:32
  Speaker 7: That, of course.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Transcends any given calendar year, but apparently the CDC has
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: concluded that guns are used for defensive uses upwards of
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: 2.5 million times every year. And then you just got
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: to kind of scratch your head. Well, that's where one
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: was actually used to defend themselves. What about all the
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: opportunities where people were facing fear of imminent apprehension of
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: grievous bodily harm or death and did not have a
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: firearm on them? And turning to a local story where
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: I guess this guy might have liked to have one.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: I know I would have. That East McMicken Avenue shooting
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: between Walnut and East Liberty Streets after midnight on Friday.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Got a couple people sent to the hospital in that one.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Fox 19 Ali Ennard interviewed one of the guys that
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: got shot in that altercation or gunfight, more properly stated.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Antonio Wright, DJ Alcantone. Close enough. Just got done working,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: packing up his DJ equipment. He said, it sounded like
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: a war zone. And then here's the interesting fact that
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: I got from this. Over 71 shots. He said they
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: found over 71 shells on the street. It was that bad.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: He had a duck run for cover. He saw these
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: guys coming. He's sitting outside having a cigarette. And he said,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: some guys hop out of the car right there. Military style,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: as he described it. He said, when I see the guns,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: I panic. I was like, oh, S-word turned away for
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: a shelter because I knew they were going to start shooting.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: In fact, he did get hit. He said, ripped through
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: his leg, shattered his knee, hit my kneecap. That makes
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: me hurt just thinking about it. So, you never know.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: And I guess the other piece of advice I can
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: add in to my strong recommendation to, well, be in
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: a position to defend yourself. And the only way you're
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: going to have any measure of confidence in doing that,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: it's easy to go out and buy a firearm. Go
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: out and get one today. You'll have one as soon
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: as the store opens. Can you use it? Can you
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: confidently shoot and hit a target, generally speaking? Do you
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: know how you're going to carry it, the proper holster?
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Are you going to practice unholstering your weapons? Because look,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: if this guy, this Alcantone Andy O'Reilly, has found himself
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: in that position, he's freaking out. Not having confidence in
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: how to use the firearm, which may be the one
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: thing that can defend you and your fellow citizens, are
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: you your brother keeper, is knowing how to use it.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: And no, you don't have to start shooting at targets
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: that are 50 or 100 yards away. You got a handgun,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: start practicing with people who generally are very close to
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: you when they're getting ready to harm you or your
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: fellow citizens. get to the range. You know, I do
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: commercials for 22, three on route 42 between Mason and Lebanon.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: They're great people. They sell firearms, but they also have
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: an indoor range. You can practice, you can take classes
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: and I don't care where you do that. Although I
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: do support them, take classes or at least a class.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: It's a more and more dangerous world every day we
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: find ourselves in. And I, you know, lament the fact
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: that I'm sitting here telling people they better arm themselves,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: but I don't see the world's global situation getting any better.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: I don't see the situation in the United States getting better.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: I don't see the situation in Ohio getting better. And
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: I sure as hell don't see the situation in Hamilton
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: County getting any better. How do you feel, residents of
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: downtown Cincinnati? 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK, pound 550 on AT & T phones.
• 45:14
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• 45:17
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• 45:25
  Speaker 1: the number, 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK, or pound 550 on AT &
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: T phones. Jay, welcome back to the morning show. Good
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: to hear from you.
• 45:35
  Speaker 6: Hey, good morning, Brian. Before I get into my topic
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: I called in on, I'll just give you the old
• 45:40
  Speaker 6: Rush Limbaugh mega dittos on what you just said about
• 45:43
  Speaker 6: firearm ownership and learning how to use one. you better
• 45:48
  Speaker 6: be prepared to take care of yourself.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Well, you know what, real quick, and I'm glad you
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: said that again, because I was looking at the guy,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: the civilian who fired at that in-and-out murderer. He trained
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: in self-defense after seeing another mass shooting happen. It was like,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: wait a second, there but for the grace of God
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: go I. I'm going to get out and train myself. Well,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: welcome to helping out the world, my friend. What a
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: great thing he did. Good Samaritan, and he's been hailed
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: a hero across the nation.
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: Amen.
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: Hey, the reason for the call is I got up,
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: did my usual thing, turned on KRC, Brian Thomas show
• 46:22
  Speaker 6: on iHeart app, and then got on Breitbart and looked
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: at some articles that said Trump amended dramatically lower Biden
• 46:31
  Speaker 6: era vehicle fuel economy requirements. And I'm thinking it's about time.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: Amen.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Here we go.
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: Because if we do that, if the federal government gets
• 46:42
  Speaker 6: out of the way, Back to what Tom Zalastowski, love
• 46:44
  Speaker 6: that guy, what he was saying yesterday about us already
• 46:47
  Speaker 6: being in communism and socialism. He's 100% correct. Somebody show
• 46:52
  Speaker 6: me in the Constitution where the federal government has any
• 46:55
  Speaker 6: right to regulate what products we buy from the automakers.
• 47:00
  Speaker 6: And I know it was all under the global warming
• 47:03
  Speaker 6: and carbon emissions and everything.
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: But it seems like, you.
• 47:06
  Speaker 6: Know, when the tech bros and Bill Gates and everybody
• 47:08
  Speaker 6: decides that, well, maybe we need.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: Power and maybe that was all made.
• 47:12
  Speaker 6: Up and they're starting to say the quiet part out loud,
• 47:14
  Speaker 6: as they say, now is the time to move fast.
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: But I would I was as I read the article,
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: I can't help but tell you, I was irate when
• 47:24
  Speaker 6: I saw that they're going to take it from, you know,
• 47:26
  Speaker 6: Biden was saying 50.4 by and by 20 down to
• 47:28
  Speaker 6: 34 and a half. Down to 34.5.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Why is there a number there? Exactly, Jay. Why is
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: there a number there? And you know what this point is?
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: And I have the article. I saw it, and I
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: thought that along the same lines as you. Point, why
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: is the government even saying it? Well, the only argument
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: may be global warming or whatever. If the price of
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: fuel bothers you, then what do you have without a
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: fuel standard? Jay, you have choice. If gasoline is outrageous,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: then automobile manufacturers have every incentive in the world, like
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: they started doing in the 70s, to make more fuel-efficient cars.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Welcome to modern cars. Technology is amazing. You can eke
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: massive horsepower out of a four-cylinder engine, throw a couple
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: of turbos on it, and you're looking at horsepower that
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: used to be generated by a V8. But it's much
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: more fuel-efficient. You can buy one of those, but you
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: know what? If your business or your life requires a gas-guzzling, giant,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: truck-like vehicle, go ahead and buy one. You're the one
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: that's got to pay for it.
• 48:25
  Speaker 6: Or if I just want one.
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: I just want it.
• 48:28
  Speaker 6: I'm not ever going to use it other than to
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: go get groceries.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: But if I want to do that, that ought to
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: be my.
• 48:33
  Speaker 6: Choice in a free market economy.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: That's how Hummers were sold.
• 48:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 48:40
  Speaker 6: I mean, why can't we just rip it out by
• 48:42
  Speaker 6: the roots, some of the stuff that's been hanging around?
• 48:44
  Speaker 6: I see the left, man.
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: They know how to fight.
• 48:47
  Speaker 6: They know how to move. They can get Obamacare in,
• 48:50
  Speaker 6: and it's still there. And all we can do is
• 48:54
  Speaker 6: push back a little bit, and it's taken way too long.
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: Here we are in the sixth year of Trump, and
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: Sean Duffy and the Trump administration on this and so
• 49:05
  Speaker 6: many other things. It is time to move, and this
• 49:08
  Speaker 6: is not what I call moving, rolling it back to
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: 34 1⁄2. I think the problem, you know, automakers are
• 49:13
  Speaker 6: struggling to keep the internal combustion engine running. Everybody's having problems.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: GM, Ford, Toyota, everything.
• 49:20
  Speaker 6: And I think it goes to the tolerances are so
• 49:23
  Speaker 6: tight to try to do, to try to perform under
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: these requirements with fuel efficiency that's artificial, made up by
• 49:31
  Speaker 6: the government, And you can't say it's not communism when
• 49:34
  Speaker 6: the federal government starts dictating what products you can buy
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: and which ones you cannot. Is that not controlling the
• 49:40
  Speaker 6: means of production and controlling the market?
• 49:43
  Speaker 7: Amen.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: It absolutely is.
• 49:44
  Speaker 6: It is.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: That's going to Tom's point. We live under a pretty
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: much quasi-socialist environment right now. No question.
• 49:51
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 49:51
  Speaker 6: And we're supposed to stand up and cheer whenever our guy,
• 49:54
  Speaker 6: our Republicans in charge of everything, are going to roll
• 49:57
  Speaker 6: it back four years from now or six years from now.
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: To 34 and a half.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: 34 and a half, yeah. Give me a break. It's
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: a baby step in the right direction. It's going in
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: the right direction, but it's not enough. Yes, it is
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: not enough.
• 50:11
  Speaker 6: We've been baby stepped your and mine's entire life. We've
• 50:14
  Speaker 6: been baby stepped.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: Enough is enough.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Jay, what do you think? With a different administration, they
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: just have to run out the clock. If it's six
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: years to go down to 34 and a half, I
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: think there will be a change in administration, even if
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: it's under a different moniker, if it's a Republican in
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: place of Trump. That doesn't mean these fuel standards are
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: going to go away necessarily. A new administration could change
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: it and go to a different direction. Eradicate them. It's
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: a cowardly move.
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: It's a cowardly move. I thought the same thing.
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: Right. Amen, brother.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: Hang in there, Jay. I appreciate it. And the other
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: thing I'll advocate for right now, and I heard that
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: I think it was Ford was coming out with a
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: bare-bones car. Old cars are all the rage. People don't
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: like surveillance state. Look at what's going on with flock
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: cameras around this country. They want them out of the neighborhood,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: even though they help solve crime. They don't like Big Brother.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: Your car is Big Brother. You got a newer one
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: that's tracking everything you do. How about if I was
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: an automobile manufacturer, I hear the demand out there. How
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: about a low-cost, affordable, bare-bones car? You know, with crank
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: windows and no cameras on it and maybe no ABS?
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Might be more dangerous. But if you're mandated to provide
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: that kind of thing on a car, it drives at
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: a cost way through the roof. It's also a lot
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: more things to repair come down the road that are
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: going to break. Anybody had their cameras replaced in their car?
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: It's not cheap. Just roll back the clock to, I
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: don't know, not the mid-' 70s technology, but the mid-' 70s type
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: of car and the bare-bones features that you could buy.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: You don't have to buy a luxury car. I just
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: want the base model, a new base model that falls
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: into the realm of affordability during these inflationary times. It
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: doesn't have all the bells and gizmos on it. It
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: does not surveil you. And get you from point A
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: to point B. Don't you think there's a demand in
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: the world out there for something as simple as that?
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: I know there is because I've heard it from people
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: a lot lately. 626-755-KRC-TALK-STATION. How about saving 20 stations? It
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: is 632 here at 55KRC-TALK-STATION. Happy Wednesday. Listen to lunch
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: next Wednesday. Turf Club, where I probably will be playing
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: cribbage with my submariner friend, Cribbage Mike, who just texted
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: me about the car thing. First car, 72 Plymouth Duster.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: AM radio only until he added the eight track. No
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: air conditioning, no power steering, no power brakes, just basic.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: It was $ 1, 900 out the door in 73. I'd like
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: to see what the value of that car is today,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure it'll be extremely affordable nonetheless, in spite
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: of the inflationary realities and the devaluation of the dollar.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: New Hampshire, Gary, thanks for calling this morning. Welcome to
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: the program, sir.
• 52:52
  Speaker 7: Hey, good morning, Brian. I'm going to get on this
• 52:55
  Speaker 7: CAFE standard. I'm a diesel mechanic. That's what I did
• 52:59
  Speaker 7: for the military, as well as an aircraft mechanic. With
• 53:06
  Speaker 7: the CAFE standards that Obama placed in, actually it was
• 53:10
  Speaker 7: a little before that, but cars, you know, they're not
• 53:14
  Speaker 7: lasting as long. because of the tight standards that they're
• 53:19
  Speaker 7: trying to get as much environmental standards as well as,
• 53:29
  Speaker 7: you know, the CAFE arbitrary 34 miles a gallon, the
• 53:34
  Speaker 7: 50 miles CAFE standards they call.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: It is arbitrary. And real quick, to your point, I've
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: been talking about, you know, the carbon buildup on valves
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: because the– In an effort to increase gas mileage, they
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: created the direct injection engine, which sprays the fuel right
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: into the cylinder and doesn't go over the valves, meaning
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: the valves aren't getting clean. What happens? Over time, you
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: lose fuel efficiency, and then you've got to pay like
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: a couple grand to get walnut blast to get that
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: crap off of there. Was that the recipe for success?
• 54:01
  Speaker 7: No.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: Downside risks, I guess, became manifested after direct injections became
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: the norm in the name of fuel efficiency. Bring us
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: back a non-direct injection car.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: Geez.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: Anyway, go ahead.
• 54:14
  Speaker 7: No, exactly. It's another reason, while there's a massive exit
• 54:20
  Speaker 7: of car mechanics and truck mechanics because of the complexity
• 54:25
  Speaker 7: and the continuous, you know, ASE, they call them ASE mechanics,
• 54:32
  Speaker 7: there's a mass exit because it's turning out that it's
• 54:36
  Speaker 7: almost damn near impossible without being a computer expert to
• 54:41
  Speaker 7: work on a car or a truck or an aircraft, actually.
• 54:45
  Speaker 7: But you're going to find out that your techs have
• 54:49
  Speaker 7: to take three weeks of training, plus they have to
• 54:52
  Speaker 7: buy all their kits, plus the manufacturers are charging a
• 54:56
  Speaker 7: huge license fee, for example. I know Ford's charging like
• 55:02
  Speaker 7: $ 6, 000 a year just to use their new scanners, plus
• 55:05
  Speaker 7: you have to play per event every time you use one.
• 55:09
  Speaker 7: You know, that goes on, that goes on to the
• 55:11
  Speaker 7: price of the car, goes on to the price of repairs.
• 55:14
  Speaker 7: And also make sure normally you can only take it
• 55:17
  Speaker 7: to the dealer.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: Amen.
• 55:20
  Speaker 7: You know, if you're a car repair shop, like you
• 55:23
  Speaker 7: used to be able to find them everywhere, you got
• 55:25
  Speaker 7: 50 brands of cars and every car has its own
• 55:29
  Speaker 7: software computer. that they can plug into, plus if they've
• 55:33
  Speaker 7: got to pay the license fee, it would be uneconomical
• 55:37
  Speaker 7: for them to continue.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: So how about the choice, Gary? I want a car
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: without a computer in it. Can I get one? Somebody
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: sell one. No screens. I don't care about it. Just
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: give me a regular deal. Toggle, switch, and turn whatever
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: it's got on, and give me the option to buy one.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: I think we'll be as successful as ever to go
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: down that road.
• 55:56
  Speaker 7: I think that Congress would be in the way or
• 55:59
  Speaker 7: the manufacturers have lobbyists to ensure that you would never
• 56:02
  Speaker 7: buy one like that. Shut darn. Right.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: Going back to Gary's point and Tom Zalastowski's point and
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: my point, that's socialism, dictating how private businesses run their
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: business and what they can make, what they can manufacture,
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: dictating the choices for them and not allowing them to, well,
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: maybe address market forces like, Wow, there's a huge demand
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: out there for a basic bare-bones car that doesn't have
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: nine gajillion forms of electronics in it that, of course,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: I got stuck in the trap of having to go
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: back to the dealer to have fixed because no one
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: knows how to fix it. Problem solved. Give me a choice.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: Appreciate it, Gary, and thanks for your service to our country,
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: my friend. I always appreciate you calling in and say
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: hello to my friends in New Hampshire. 636 right now.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: You can call. Love to hear from you. And I'd
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: love for you to call. Detox Station. That's 640 coming
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: up at 641-55-KRC-Detox Station. Yeah, controlling the means of production
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: is what Jay was commenting on. Tom Zawistowski talked about
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: that a lot yesterday. How about ownership of the means
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: of production? As I contemplate us getting an ownership interest
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: in Venezuela and oil through the Department of War, that
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: doesn't sound right from my little-l libertarian perspective. That's like
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: going the opposite direction. Anyway, pivoting over real quick here,
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: the numbers were crunched. We talked about this a week
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: or so ago. The Cato Institute numbers crunched. For all
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: the socialism and the cost of everything the DSA wants.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: And the problem here is education. All right, so you
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: start breaking it down. Cato Institute is, I think, a
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: fine and reputable institute. So say the numbers are inflated
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: to some degree. There's still literally trillions and trillions of dollars,
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: and there's not enough money in the world to pay
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: for everything they want to do. They say $ 30 to
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: $ 75 trillion over the next decade for the so-called universal
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: health care. That's every decade. They want slavery reparations. Cato
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: said that's at $ 13. 5 to $ 28 trillion. Job guarantees, $ 4. 5
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: to $ 60 trillion. Housing for all, $ 3. 5 to $ 16 trillion.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: Total it all up, you got $ 71 to $ 211 trillion.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: That would be 57 to 92% of GDP. The equivalent,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: the larger figure in terms of spending, is literally the
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: value of every single thing produced in America every single year.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: And as the New York Post pointed out, maybe the
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: DSA leaders know this and don't care. As long as
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: the voting public buys it, maybe they're just ignorant. Perhaps
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: seeing the math is just a tool for white supremacy.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: That was their tongue-in-cheek joke about that. But the math
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: doesn't work out. And this is one I pivoted over
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: to Karl Rove, who wrote a speech for the Florida candidate.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: Speaking of Representative Angie Nixon, a DSA member. But I
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: just kind of flipped the words a little bit. Any
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: single candidate can use these words to prove to people
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: and ultimately educate people who may very well be ignorant
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: about all the things the DSA wants. Force Democrats into
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: an uncomfortable choice. Side with the DSA's extreme views or
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: break with the group and upset its energized and increasingly
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: influential supporters. His recommendation to Democrats who perhaps want to survive,
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: but at the same time, you're appealing to Republican voters
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: by educating them, asking the Democrats. to either accept or
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: reject the DSA platform. How does that work? Voters face
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: a big question in the midterm election. How do you
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: feel about a statewide ticket led by a member of
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: the DSA? It should scare the hell out of you
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: because the DSA's agenda is more radically leftist than anything
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: we've seen in our lifetime. Anything that's ever happened, actually,
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: here in this country. And the DSA is increasing its
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: influence in the Democratic Party. How bad could it be?
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: Let's start with this. DSA platform wants an America where, quote,
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: you don't pay a mortgage or have a landlord, close quote.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Sounds nice until you get in the details. In the
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: DSA world, government will build new publicly owned social housing.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: That's a quote from the DSA platform. Now, he pivots
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: over to somewhere. Remember those big, ugly apartment blocks in
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: the Soviet Union? That's DSA's leader's vision, whether they admit
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: it or not. Unless they say otherwise, you should assume
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: the Democrats support it. Again, going to Tom Zalastowski's point,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: if you're voting for a Democrat, you're voting for someone,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: even if they say they're not a DSA member, they're
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: lockstep unified and they do not reject DSA platforms. DSA
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: agenda says government must treat food, education, energy, medicine, and
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: transportation as common goods and utilities only. and that democracy
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: requires public ownership of the largest corporations and essential industries.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: You should assume Democrats on board with that policy unless
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: they deny it. It going over how effective is government
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: at doing anything. Do you think given that they have
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: unlimited access to taxpayer dollars, this is the failure of
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: government generally, they don't have to worry about their bottom line.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: They have a built-in customer base, and that really, the
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: customer base is just the fact that they can loot
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: your paycheck and take whatever they want. They're not focusing
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: on efficiencies. Private business does because they have that pesky
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: profit motive. Anyway, here are some questions. You're right. Since
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: food would be a common good, would farmers work for
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: the government? What about companies, large companies? Will government take
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: over your local grocery store? Zoran Mandami, that's never worked. Homebuilders?
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: Truck transport companies? Railroads? Cruise lines? Is the government going
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: to take all of these things over? You, Republican candidate
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: addressing the apparently ignorant people who buy into this crap,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: does my opponent buy into this? Hopefully you have an
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: opportunity to debate. Although I doubt Amy Acton's going to
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: come out of her cave and debate Vivek Ramaswamy on
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: these important points. If they won't say no, as the
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: vast majority of Democrats, candidates... won't, in terms of rejecting
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: outright DSA agenda, you must assume that they do accept it.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: Do we want federal bureaucrats to be in charge of
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: anything in this world, given how they do not run
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: things efficiently and properly? He even cites Mickey Mouse and
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: Disney World, going back to the focus on Florida in
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: this particular thing. DSA blames America's problems on private ownership
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: and profit. Their words, they claim our free enterprise system is,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: in their words, making us desperate and miserable. Unless the
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: Democrat candidate says otherwise, you should assume Democrats agree with
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: those sentiments. Evil America. The free enterprise system has shortcomings.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: Of course it does. But the free enterprise system has
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: made America the most prosperous, creative, open, and compassionate country
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: in the world. It's why people want to come here
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: from the four corners of the world. Does any DSA
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: representative get in a raft and try to make it
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: to Cuba, risking life and limb? To get to that socialist,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: communist mecca of prosperity? No. It's a one-way street that
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: runs this way. Sorry, Carl, I'm interjecting over your comments.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: There are many more things the DSA demands that we
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: should be concerned about. A 32-hour work week, but with
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: a 40-hour paycheck. What small business could cope with that?
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: Phase out our fossil fuel use. Fully abolish the police
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: and prison systems. Abolish ICE. Legalize migration. Open borders. Give
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: them all citizenship. The DSA would defund the Department of
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: War and close overseas military bases. All of these points
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: that so many people may not be aware of that
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: is literally their platform. I'm not making the words up.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: These are the words that they use. Ask your opposing candidate,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: people contemplating voting for a Democrat, ask the guy when
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: he comes knocking at the front door, or woman as
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: the case may be, go to a rally. Ask them
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: out loud. Are you really in favor of this? And
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: if it's not an outright rejection, and even though... I'll
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: interject it even if they do outright reject it and say, no,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not about that kind of stuff. Do you believe them?
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: They're unified by evil orange man. If evil orange man
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: wants anything, of course, the Republican Party may want it
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: as well, but it may be independent of Donald Trump's
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: thought process. It may be an idea advanced by the
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: Republican Party with no connection to Trump, but they're all
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: going to gang up against it because they've got Trump
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: derangement syndrome, if you want to call it that. So
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: whatever they're telling you, even if they reject this kind
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: of thing, I would be very suspicious. And going back
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: to Tom Zalastowski's point, which is why you need to
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: hold your nose, even if your Republican candidate doesn't align 100%
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: with whatever values you have, the price tag, the intrusions
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: on freedom and liberty, the train wreck of misery that
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: the DSA platform will bring about to this land of ours,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: I don't think can be even calculated. Do you want
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: to even chance it? Press them on how they're going
• 1:04:47
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• 1:05:01
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• 1:05:03
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• 1:05:05
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• 1:05:08
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• 1:05:12
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• 1:05:14
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• 1:05:17
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• 1:05:19
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• 1:05:22
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• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: Donovan O'Neill about the push against socialism. Maybe somebody should
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: go out there and hand all the candidates Karl Rove's
• 1:05:30
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• 1:05:32
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• 1:05:34
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• 1:05:37
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• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: friends so much more than the general population, but, man,
• 1:05:44
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• 1:05:49
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• 1:05:58
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• 1:06:02
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• 1:06:06
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• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: he doing in Moscow? Question answered. He just got back
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: with me a couple minutes ago. I'm lecturing at Moscow
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: State University and interviewing Foreign Minister Lavrov, which is, that's
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: got to be interesting and exciting. Anyway, thanks to sanctions,
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  Speaker 1: it takes 30 hours to get from JFK to Moscow
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: via Istanbul or Dubai, which explains why he was heading
• 1:06:31
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• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: Moscow for a full week. So two weeks from today,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: we'll get Judge Annapolitano back on. So he wishes everyone
• 1:06:40
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  Speaker 1: So I'll miss having him on at 8.30. Stick around.
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  Speaker 10: Thanks so much, brother. All right, let's just say it.
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  Speaker 10: On this 250th anniversary of our independence, Democrats want to
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 10: destroy America by scrapping the Constitution. To do that, they're
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 10: using a kind of jujitsu, turning a basic principle of
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 10: America into against ourselves. I'm talking about federalism, the system
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 10: that combines national and state governments. It's a system that's
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 10: now imploding so that everybody's included in this, kids. And
• 1:08:08
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• 1:08:11
  Speaker 10: you're getting ready for school where you will not learn
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 10: about federalism in an old fashioned civics class, I'll try
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  Speaker 10: to explain. 250 years ago, the brand spanking new United
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 10: States of America turned the world on its head, literally.
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  Speaker 10: Instead of having a head of state, some divine right
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 10: monarch like King George III imposed a top-down government benefiting
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 10: the privileged few. The United States of America became a
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 10: bottom-up government that God given rights of. Eventually, every individual
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 10: would be protected by a national government limited by constitutional
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 10: checks and balances. Democratic socialists want to drop those checks
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  Speaker 10: and balances. They want to pack the U.S. Supreme Court
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  Speaker 10: with progressives so that a new, what they call, living
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 10: constitution will rubber stamp woke principles. Democrat socialists also call
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 10: for abolishing the U.S. Senate, the elected presidency, and replacing
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 10: them with a European-style parliament whose leader would be chosen
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 10: by the party in power. which would always be the
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 10: Democrat Party, because to guarantee their majority, Democrats will reopen borders,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 10: grant mass amnesty, and make Washington, D.C. and Puerto Rico
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 10: reliably blue states. How are they going to do all this?
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 10: Here's where federalism comes in. To fundamentally transform America, as
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 10: Barack Obama said, into a one-party big state, Democrats are
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 10: exploiting the right of each existing state to run its
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 10: own elections, both state and federal elections. That lets deep
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 10: blue states like California mail out ballots to anyone and everyone,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 10: citizen and non-citizen, resident and non-resident, dead or alive. Federalism
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 10: is America's founding principle, and it's a very good thing.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 10: But states' rights have always been subject to abuse. Ask
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 10: anyone who suffered under Jim Crow. Where did we get federalism? Well,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 10: let's go back in the way back machine. On July 3rd, 1776,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 10: America was just a string of 13 separate English colonies
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 10: with very different interests. The biggest divide, of course, being slavery.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 10: Those different interests were possible because starting with the Pilgrim's
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 10: Mayflower Compact, each colony always enjoyed some degree of self-government.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 10: But not enough. Taxation without representation in the British Parliament
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 10: forced the colonies to declare independence from the king. The
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 10: trouble was, separately, the colonies were too weak to win
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 10: independence on their own, so they had to unite. But
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 10: not entirely. Each colony delegated to the new national government
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 10: only the powers necessary to promote defense, trade, and other
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 10: national interests like a common currency. All other powers not
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 10: explicitly delegated to the national government were retained by each state.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 10: That's made clear in our Constitution's 10th Amendment. For better
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 10: or for worse, one of the powers not delegated to
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 10: the national government was and is today the right of
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 10: each state to run its own elections. This led right
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 10: away to all kinds of chicanery, property requirements, literacy requirements,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 10: gerrymandering of congressional districts. Both parties still exploit that. But friends,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 10: and political opponents, if you're the least bit open-minded, there
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 10: is no moral equivalence.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: Between the parties.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 10: Republican redistricting in Ohio, even more in Texas, may have
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 10: gone too far. I think it did. Still, you can't
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 10: compare that with California, Oregon, Vermont, eight states so far
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 10: and counting, that mail ballots to everyone. that allow endless
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 10: time to cast a ballot, count a ballot, and then
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 10: change the rules even after ballots have been cast in
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 10: a national election. You remember Bush v. Gore's hanging dimple chads.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 10: It took a U.S. Supreme Court to throw those out.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 10: I think the high court needs to step in again.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 10: It did last week, putting in a toe. We can
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 10: talk about that in a couple of minutes. But even
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 10: beyond policing elections, federalism also breaks down when cities, and
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 10: entire states define national immigration law. Or when, not Congress,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 10: but Democrats' woke lower court judges block Republican foreign policy.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 10: Not Democrat foreign policy, just the Republicans. Partisanship, Brian, is
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 10: killing us. Our founders knew the American experiment in limited,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 10: decentralized government could only work if we brought to government
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 10: the spirit of good faith compromise. the kind of compromise
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 10: Democrats will outlaw when they impose a Orwellian big government.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 10: Look what Biden and Fauci did during COVID. To prevent that,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 10: we don't have to rely on do-nothing Republican senators who
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 10: won't even support voter ID. We don't have to rely
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 10: on a shifting majority of the Supreme Court. Our Constitution
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 10: can be amended again, as when the 17th Amendment in
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 10: 1913 allowed the direct election of senators instead of having
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 10: them appointed by state legislatures. That's the way it used
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 10: to be done. Or when women were finally granted the
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 10: vote in 1920, and the voting age was lowered to
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 10: 18 as recently as 1971. I say amend the Constitution
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 10: to nationalize federal elections. But we gotta be realistic. Given
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 10: how we've allowed universities and now public schools to be
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 10: taken over by socialists, Given the woke takeover of media
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 10: and pop culture, can we achieve enough consensus to amend
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 10: the Constitution again? We won't know till we try. Meantime,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 10: don't let Democrats use federalism to bring us centralized socialism,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 10: which has failed everywhere it's tried. The whole point of
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 10: America was to oppose top-down power. Why in the world
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 10: would we ever bring that back? What do you say,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 10: my freedom-loving friend?
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with you more. And I was thinking
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: about this. The first thing when you were talking about
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: the division between the parties that popped into my mind,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know, this may be a new revelation for someone,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: but I thought, you know, the teachers' unions are now
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: fully on record that they only care about the teachers.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: They don't care about the students' well-being. They care about
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: the teachers. And I guess if you're a union, you
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: care about the best interests of your union membership. So
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: It's what they care about, but that's at the cost
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: of what's going on in the classroom. The federal government now,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: you've got Republicans on one side, and there's all kinds
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: of problems that can go down the road in terms
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: of how Republicans approach the size and scope and spending
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: in federal government. But the Democrats seem to be in
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: a turf war. They're not looking out for the best
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: interest of the constituents, the American public. They're interested in
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: protecting and expanding the size, scope, and power and control
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: of the federal government. They want an all-encompassing control over America.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: And I don't view that as being responsible in a
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: representative form of government. I mean, we don't need more
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: power and control exercised over us. We need to enjoy
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: our freedoms and liberties, which have been the recipe for
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: success in this country for 250 years.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's like the autoworkers union deliberately designing cars that
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 10: will crash so there'll be more.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: Need for autoworkers.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 10: I mean, it's just insane. Yeah, I mentioned The Supreme
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 10: Court has dipped into this question about elections just last week.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 10: As regards mail-in voting, the Trump administration has been enlisting
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 10: every agency from Homeland Security to the Postal Service to
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 10: monitor illegal ballots to show what's actually going on. Well,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 10: last week, the Supreme Court, you know this, minus the
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 10: three liberal justices, of course, refused to block that monitoring
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 10: for now.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 10: It's a procedural question.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: Standing issue, wasn't it?
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 10: But the court will, you know, continue to overlook. Of course,
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 10: fight is going to continue because Democrats claim that Trump
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 10: is interfering with each state's right to run its own elections.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 10: That's why we need an amendment protecting not state elections,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 10: not local elections, not Cincinnati elections. go to you know
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 10: where on its own, but we've got to protect federal elections.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: Jack, on the idea of the Postal Service involved in
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: the integrity of the elections, I mean, I go back
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: to what I view as a collective fare of the
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: postal system. I mean, delivering mail on time, getting it
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: from point A to point B without any problems. It's
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: not even a business model. I mean, it's the only
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: way it continues to survive after losing billions every single
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: quarter is because I guess we're propping it up. I
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: don't know how that ultimately would work in practice, but
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: I honestly don't trust the postal system, a government run
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: agency to do anything properly or efficiently or, or, or
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: make it work.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 10: I hesitate to weigh in on this because a good friend, Chad,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 10: our postal worker is one of your biggest fans.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: This isn't an insult that Chad did not create the
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: business model. He did not keep mail in his, in
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: his bedroom for four years and not deliver it. He
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: didn't steal things from people, you know, but listen, you know,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: like everything, government agencies, even businesses, people are partisan and
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: sometimes they do things might not be within the best
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: interest of everybody, but in the best interest, at least
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: in the mind of that individual person, that's the reality
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: of everything involved in the postal service. Chad's going to
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: do it right. How about the other guys down the street?
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: How about the flaming commie Democrat postal people that are
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: out there? this is the problem you face and the
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: challenges you face anytime you put the decision-making in the
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: hands of a person.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 10: Yeah, or anytime that you hired too many persons. Remember,
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 10: under the Biden administration, all of the private sector hiring
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 10: was down. What was up was illegal immigrants getting jobs
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 10: and also public worker jobs, especially people working in the
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 10: federal government. When you see the new jobs numbers coming
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 10: out under Trump and you see the jobs are sometimes down,
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 10: They're getting rid of a lot of those workers. But
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 10: getting back to the biggest question that we keep posing
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 10: now every week, the ultimate question, do you want to
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 10: be free or do you want to be fed crumbs
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 10: by an all-powerful system?
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: Government?
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 10: That's what the November election is going to be all about.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 10: The states originally were a bulwark against a top-down national government. Now,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 10: blue states are using their power to bring us big
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 10: brother socialism. We cannot let it happen.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: Absolutely cannot, which is why I've been harping, you know,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: how long now about educating people and getting out there
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: and challenging this this far left party that the Democrat
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: Party has been becoming. I don't know that enough people
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: really fully appreciate the overall cost of all this. I
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: don't think they appreciate the intrusion on liberties and freedoms.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: You know, all they know, I guess the uneducated, not
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: paying attention mess is like I hear free stuff and things. I'm, well,
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: falling into the class warfare envy thing because someone somewhere
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: has got a whole lot more than me, and that's
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: just not right. I'm personally struggling with the grocery bill. Ergo,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: I need free government groceries or something. But the next
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: step is where everything falls apart, and people don't appreciate
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: that next step. It's just it can't be done. It's never,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: ever worked. Anytime anybody's tried this litany of socialist programs
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: that DSA is behind, That it even appeals to anyone, Jack,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: in the face of the reality that we could look
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: at over history is just beyond me. And again, I've
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: got to go back to the fact that our education system,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: I think, has failed us.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 10: Yeah, and that's why education has to start at home.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 10: Everybody listening right now, good for you. I think you've
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 10: made a great choice on how to start your morning.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 10: Now share that with your kids.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: That's exactly right, and I'll double down on that. It's
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: something I told my friend yesterday who's got two toddlers
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: at home, and he does.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 7: Read.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: Read. To your children, even before they can read, sit
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: there on a lap with a book, read to them,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: point out little Elmo and soon enough that kid's going
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: to know and can point to it and all the
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: other things in the book. Like they learn the meaning
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: of words. They associate images with words. They learn to
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: read before they even enter the education system. If you
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: want to send them off to K through 12 education publicly.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: I think it's the best thing you can do for
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: your kids. It worked in my family, Jack, and I
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: know it worked in yours. God bless you, sir. I
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: appreciate the wonderful job you do every Wednesday here on
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: The Morning Show. And so my listeners know, if they
• 1:21:00
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• 1:21:04
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• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: that you do for us and sharing your knowledge and experience.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: And as always, best of health and love to you
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: and your better half. We'll do this next Wednesday. The
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  Speaker 1: Talk Station. It is 728 at 55 KRC, the talk station.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: It is Wednesday. Stating the obvious, it is time for
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: Donovan O'Neill, the return from Americans for Prosperity action here
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: in Ohio. It is time to push against socialism. Welcome back,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: Donovan O'Neill. Is this a gift that the Democrats have
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: given us and these crazy far left, call them legitimately,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: definitionally communists, that we have something that we can hang
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: our hat on that should scare the crap out of America,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: generally speaking? Donovan, it's always good having you on.
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  Speaker 4: It's good to have you on it. I think it is.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: I think they've overplayed their hand and shown who they
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: really are. Socialists at heart, folks who think they know
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 4: better than you, I, or our friends and neighbors about
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 4: what it takes to run an economy, how it takes
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: to run a nation, what it takes to create opportunity
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 4: and prosperity for people. And it's having a tangible impact
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 4: at the doors. We're hearing it at the doors. And
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 4: that's why we're rolling out this Fight Socialism campaign to
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 4: really equip grassroots folks, folks across the country with the
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: tools they need to push back against these radical DSA,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 4: Democrat Socialists of America policies that are throughout the left now.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: Well, far be it for me to fail to observe
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: that the government loves to play up fears. And we
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: have economic fears. We have global fears in terms of war. Oh,
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: my God, El Nino or La Nina, whatever it happens
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: to be. We're all going to die. Extreme weather events.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: You pick anything. And they're ginning up fear. And the
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: answer from them is always we need a government solution.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: And it really bothers me, Donald, that we seem to
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: have lost our independent, entrepreneurial, freedom-loving spirit here in America.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: That we say, oh, wow, I'm worried. Oh, my God.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: There but for the grace of God go I. I
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: really hope there's a big government program there to save
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: me from, well, the problems of the world. That never happens.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you just study what they've done in
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: order to fix the problems that they've identified in the past,
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: you can fully appreciate that they've never fixed anything. I
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: think of the Great Society program, supposed to end poverty
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: forever and end up with multiple generations of dependent people
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: on government revenue. Failure of critical thinking, Donovan? Is it
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: just people have given up on politics? I don't know.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: It just bothers me.
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  Speaker 4: Well, the reality is the stakes are real, right? People are,
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 4: rent is too high. Grocery store prices are too high.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 4: Fuel prices aren't dropping. Energy bills are going up, right?
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 4: And when those things happen, that's where the evil of
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: socialism takes root, right? It's these promises that, hey, if
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 4: you give us the control, if you sacrifice for the
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 4: greater cause, we sacrifice in many cases like China, Russia,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 4: North Korea, South America means death. If you sacrifice for
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 4: the greater cause, we will usher in a new era
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: of prosperity. But that new era of prosperity, has never
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: arrived in these socialist experiments. And so what we have
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 4: to do is both recognize the stakes that we're in,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 4: and then help connect folks to why the ideas of
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 4: free enterprise, free markets, capitalism, the stuff that made this
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 4: country the wealthiest nation on earth that it is, and
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 4: the most prosperous, not just for a few, but for all, right, Brian?
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: You and I know this.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: That's what we have to do. That's the task in
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 4: front of us. And it's why we rolled out a
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 4: playbook alongside this campaign to help walk folks through who
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 4: maybe are feeling like they can't push back against the
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 4: DSA platform or the socialist policies their friends and neighbors
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: are talking about over a cup of coffee so they
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 4: can do just that, push back against these radical, crazy
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 4: ideas that are quite harmful if actually enacted.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: Quite harmful. And, you know, the whole laugh, the joke
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: behind all of this, They're screaming about levying additional taxes,
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: paying your fair share, getting those evil billionaires, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: Our prosperity and the success of our country and the
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: massive size of our economy, generally speaking, our gross domestic product,
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: is the basis for all the things that they claim
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: they want to provide from government. If we didn't have
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: a successful country through capitalism, or at least what's left
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: of it here, they wouldn't have anything to take from.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, this is the truly contrasting vision, right? Socialism,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 4: these socialists see a rotten country, and their core purpose
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 4: is to dismantle the foundation upon which it stands. End
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 4: of story. And that's what we have to push back against. Really,
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 4: the heart and soul of our nation is what they
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 4: want to go after. And I'm not just saying that, right?
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 4: It's not hyperbole. It's what they talk about on their website,
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 4: in their public speeches.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: They see a rotten country, and then they'll back up
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: all their assessments and conclusions about this place, the United
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: States of America, sucking so much. Oh, my God, look
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: what we did. The Tuskegee syphilis experiments. Look what we did.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: There were Jim Crow laws on the books.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: Were.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: Yes. You know what? And we aren't there anymore. We correct.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: We righted the ship, and we continue to right it
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: throughout the course of the 250 years we've been around.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, this immense wealth that allows
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: us to clean up our environment, fund some social welfare.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's... they have just in, in
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: so demonizing it, I always go back to the goose
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: that laid the golden egg, man, because Donovan, that's what
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: they want to do. And what is going to become
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: of all the promises that they've made to you and
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: you are going to rely on them. Hell, they can't
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: even keep social security afloat. And I would, you know,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: some would argue that's not even socialism, but they fail
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: you every single time. And when they kill the gold,
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: the gold, the goose that laid the golden egg, IE,
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: the American capitalist system that has this massive gross domestic product,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: there's nothing left. I, you can't come to any other
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: conclusion than that.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 4: Well, and that, you know, Brian, you're a pro at this, right?
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 4: And that's the second point that we make in our
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 4: playbook of how to score that knockout against socialism, right?
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 4: Ask before you swing, who builds the apartment?
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Who's going to pay when the grocery store loses money,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 4: let alone the Momdami grocery stores in New York, right?
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 4: Where they're going to undercut the privately owned property. grocery stores, 25%
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 4: with their government-run stores, right? Most people, right, when you
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 4: push against that socialist utopia, they're not used to answering
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 4: that question. And so equipping yourself with one question, one fact,
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 4: to be able to drive that wedge, to be able
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 4: to break through the facade that is the socialist utopia
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 4: is a way to begin to plant those seeds of
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 4: doubt and sort of erode what it is that they believe.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: How do we get my listeners over to the website?
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: How do we get them in touch with the platform
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: and program? And how do we get my listeners to
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: help you help ourselves? Donovan and the old Americans for prosperity.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 4: Three quick things. First, go to fight socialism dot com.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 4: There's a playbook. It's a bare minimum website, Brian. It's
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 4: going to get built up more. But right now, the
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 4: key part, there is the playbook fight socialism dot com to.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 4: We've got the fight against socialism right here in Ohio
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 4: against Sherrod Brown. Sherrod Brown is an avowed socialist. He
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 4: is somebody who votes 98% of the time with the
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 4: Democrat Party, and the Democrat Party has been co-opted by
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 4: the DSA.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 3: Join us.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 4: Go to AFPaction.com to get in the fight to defeat
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 4: Sherrod Brown this November. And three, if you can't do
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 4: either of those things, just vote. well, you got to
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 4: do those things, Brian. Actually, I don't have another thing
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 4: there because you've got to do those things. You've got
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 4: to get out and vote and you've got to make
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 4: sure that you equip yourself to push back against socialism.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 4: It's a radio snafu there, but Brian, the urgency is so,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 4: so important.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: Welcome to my world, man. Try it four hours a day,
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: five days a week for almost 20 years. Yeah, I'll
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: acknowledge I've screwed up before, too, but that was a
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: minor one. FightSocialism.com, AFPAction.com, whatever you do. And you know what?
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: If you're not inclined to door knock or ride along
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: with the AFP Action folks talking to people, at least
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: have this information to talk to your friends and neighbors about. Right, Donovan?
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: Think local.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 4: Act local.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: And get them to go out and vote.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: Donovan Neal, thank you for what you do. Thanks for
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: joining the program every week. And again, FightSocialism.com. Joe Strecker
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: will add those links to the blog page at 55KRC. com. Well,
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: not that you can't remember FightSocialism.com, but it's there. Donovan, thanks, man.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: We'll talk next week.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 4: Take care, Brian.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: Enjoy your holiday weekend, brother. 736-55KRC. It's 741 here at 55KRC,
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: the talk station. Brian Thomas, happy to have in studio
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: the return of Steve Belzer from the Clement County Veteran Services.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: He brought a friend along with him. Important addition to
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: the discussion today, it is Suicide Prevention Month. He brought
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: Lisa Liston, who's the Suicide Prevention Program Manager with the
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: Klamath County Veterans Services. Steve, Lisa, welcome to the program.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: It's a pleasure to have you both in the studio.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 11: Thank you, Brian.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: Good to see you, brother. Good to see you, as always, man.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: And thanks, as always, to the Klamath County Veterans Services
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: and all the Veterans Service Commissions for what they're doing
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: for the veterans. And Lisa, I said it to you
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: when you walked in. I go, I wish it was
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: something better to talk about. But we got a problem
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: on our hands. Of course, Suicide Awareness Month. It's worse
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: among the veteran community for whatever reason. I think we're
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: going to talk about that this morning because, let's face it,
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: Steve Belzo, you served your country proudly. Wasn't it three decades?
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: You were an active service member for three decades. Career, military. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: Ages.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: It's just like, yeah, I did do that, didn't I?
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: Reflecting back on my life.
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  Speaker 8: Can't we just stay with, didn't you serve, Steve?
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: Yes, I did. Listen, dude, I'll be 61 in a
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Don't even get me started on aging.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 8: I can't with Ken sitting right here.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: He's a stalwart, though.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 3: He is.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: He just turned 43 years old the other day, so
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: he's still a young man. Anyway, you're welcome, Ken. Ken Williamson,
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: by the way, he always comes in and he always
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: keeps his mouth quiet, but I got to ask you
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: a critical question, though, and I think I've come to
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: some conclusion on my own analysis of how it is
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: that veterans struggle with post-service issues.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: You're wound tighter than a drum while you're serving. You're
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: sent on military operations that most of us couldn't even handle,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: but you do it day after day after day. I
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: always like to boil it down to kicking doors in
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: in Florida.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: You do that day after day after day. How could
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: you ever wind down? So I want to ask you,
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: compared to active service life, the 30 years you spent,
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: what's it like for veterans when they leave the service?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a strange dynamic that occurs. When the veteran's
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 8: on active duty, they're surrounded by their family. It really
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 8: is almost a cultic society. I have my core family
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 8: I went to combat with, I came back with. There's memorialization.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 8: You support one another. We know attitudes. We look in
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 8: each other's eyes. Hey, what's going on, right? Something's different
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 8: about you today. But when I leave that fence and
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 8: I leave active duty, I don't have that same family
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 8: set coming back home. Nobody knows how to look me
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 8: in the eyes and say, are you okay today? But
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 8: then secondly, where's that support element that is reaching out
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 8: to me to say, you're not looking that well. And
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 8: some families are intimidated to say something to Bobby who's
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 8: struggling with something. So it really is a unique dynamic
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 8: as veterans are getting out, carrying all that weight from combat,
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 8: and yet they've lost their intimate family set that was
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 8: within the fence.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, listen, man, I just revealed my age, but what
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: it felt like yesterday is when I graduated from undergrad
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: and college, and I still to this day miss my
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: fraternity brothers and hanging out with them and that kind
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: of camaraderie. Just a tiny little connection point that I'm
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: thinking of when you say that. You're 30 years with
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: the fraternity brothers, basically. You're 30 years with the guys
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: you hang out with, even when you're off. That's right.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: You've gotten leave, or you can go out and hang
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: out at the bars. They're the ones you hang out with.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: You leave, and you go back to your hometown, which
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: may be hundreds of miles away from them.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: That's a giant hole in anybody's life.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 8: It's a giant hole. But we've even seen the dynamics
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 8: of moving personnel coming back from deployment right to another unit,
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 8: because now they're learning a new family set within that unit.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: Well- Might that have some upsides?
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 8: It has some upsides, but yet nobody knows a new guy.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 8: So I don't know you pre that combat deployment. I'm
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 8: seeing you post that combat deployment. And that almost sets
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 8: up a new norm for that new unit until they realize, no,
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 8: Johnson's actually suffering from some stuff.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: Well, we're going to pause right now and we'll bring
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: Lisa over to talk about what we can do about this.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: Because it seems to me, I'm curious to know, Are
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: there any discussions with veterans who are getting ready to
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: leave service about this reality? 749-55-KRCD Talk Station, Brian Thomas
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: with Steve Belzow from the Claremont County Veteran Services and
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: his friend who is there for our My Veteran Community.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: I attributed her to the Claremont County Veteran Services. Lisa
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: Liston is with the Cincinnati VA, and she is the
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: Suicide Prevention Program Manager. Lisa, it's a pleasure having you
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: in here on this important month, Suicide Awareness and the
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: Problems of the Veteran Community. What is the role of
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: your organization? of the suicide prevention coordinator over at the
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati VA Medical Center?
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 11: So I have a team of individuals, professionals, of course,
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 11: and what they do is they follow up with veterans
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 11: who have called the Veterans Crisis Line to offer them
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 11: support and try to assist them in solving whatever the
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 11: issue is that they're having. So it could be that
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 11: they're still suicidal and we will work with them on that.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 11: They may need, maybe they've never even enrolled in VA care.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 11: That's a big thing. If there's one message I could
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 11: give to every veteran, enroll in VA care. Even if
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 11: you think, oh, I don't think I'll qualify or I
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 11: don't really need it right now. The reality is at
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 11: some point in your life, you're probably going to need it.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: And here's why.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 11: As you age, sometimes your income drops and you will
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 11: qualify because of your income. So always apply and find
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 11: out what services that are available to you. This was
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 11: a number of years ago. I contacted a veteran who
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 11: had called the crisis line. He was like 92. And
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 11: I started talking with him. He was having all kinds
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 11: of financial issues. He had never enrolled in VA care.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 11: And so I was able to help him get enrolled
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 11: because he could get all of his health care there.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 11: So sometimes people don't know. I've had other veterans who
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 11: have enrolled in VA care and found out, oh, I
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 11: do qualify for a service connection. In a sense, you're
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 11: leaving money on the table.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: Well, I was just going to say that as a
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: practical point. Hey, Lisa, how much does it cost to
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: enroll and what's your monthly payment for these benefits?
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 11: Yeah, it's free.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: Nothing, right. And you might need hearing aids. Let's say
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: you're in great mental health. Everything seems to be going right.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: You don't have any heart issues. You don't have any
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: blood pressure issues. But go ahead and sign up anyway.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: You're not taking benefits away from any other veteran. You
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: earned it. And you may need hearing aids down the road.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: And who knows? Life could deal you a bad hand
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: and you may end up needing some psychological services, which
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: the VA offers tailored to veterans' needs.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 11: And we have so many services that people don't realize.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 11: I mean, we have substance abuse programs. We have... Military
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 11: sexual trauma programs. We have our general mental health and
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 11: we have suicide prevention. I mean, we have a lot
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 11: of services available. PTSD treatment is available. And now we
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 11: have a lot of our programs can be offered virtually.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 11: So you don't even have to drive down to the VA.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 11: A lot of times veterans would tell me, I don't
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 11: want to drive down there. The parking's horrible.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 8: I totally agree.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 11: But, hey, you can do it virtually then. So, you know,
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 11: there's a variety of ways you can take advantage of
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 11: the services at the VA.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: Hold on. There you go.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 3: Go ahead.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: It's okay now. Joe took care of it.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 8: Joe, you're the man. With PTSD, PTSD is not always
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 8: correlated to combat.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 7: No.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 8: It could be here as a retiree, I could experience something, right?
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: Well, I think a lot of retirees go through that
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: in some degree.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 8: We tend as a community to say PTSD is only wartime, right?
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 8: I can only have PTSD with the VA if I
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 8: served in combat. And I want the listening audience to
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 8: hear that is not the case. If you have suffered
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 8: something in life as a veteran and are struggling with PTSD,
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 8: you might have got robbed out there leaving the casino.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 8: I don't know. Maybe you were stabbed. Maybe it was
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 8: a bad car accident that you saw. It's still post-traumatic
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 8: stress disorder.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's a disorder. I think it's such
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: a common phenomenon. We shouldn't call it a disorder. It's
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: post-traumatic stress.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 12: It is.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: Exclamation point.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: That's me.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 8: No, let's put it in. Let's make that change.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: Take it out of there. You're not dysfunctional.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 3: You're not.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: It's just a common phenomenon that, sadly, veterans struggle with
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: more because there is that combat element. Or traumatic experience.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: Or traumatic experience.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 8: Let's make it T.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: Just there you go. Why's it got to be post? Post-traumatic.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: Pivoting back over to Lisa, let's get some practical questions. Obviously,
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: you know, my listening audience, very concerned about the veteran community,
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: lots of veterans in it, but veterans' families as well.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: We need to be aware about the problems that a
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: veteran is struggling with. What can we do? What do
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: we need to do by way of observation? What can
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: we do by way of recommendation or comments to that
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: struggling person in our world?
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 11: So one of the first things you want to consider
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 11: is what do I know about suicidal thoughts or the
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 11: common veteran who may be struggling? Learning what those warning
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 11: signs are for suicide. So many times, you know, we...
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 11: I run across folks who want to help, but they
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 11: don't know what the signs are. So we actually have
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 11: a VA SAVE training that family members, community members can
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 11: take this training that really explains to them what are
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 11: the symptoms and what are the warning signs. So if
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 11: you have somebody who's withdrawing from their family and friends,
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 11: that could be a sign that they are having suicidal
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 11: thoughts or perhaps they're escalating their drug.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 4: Or alcohol use.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: Just going to say that. Huge.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 11: Self-medication.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 11: And so those are times when you might want to
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 11: ask the person, hey, have.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: You been thinking about suicide?
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 11: Because I'm really concerned about you. Or you might say,
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 11: this is my favorite, is I might say to someone,
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 11: you know, I've noticed that you've been drinking a lot
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 11: more than usual, and I'm really concerned about you. I
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 11: know that sometimes veterans who are escalating or using more
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 11: alcohol or drugs sometimes think about suicide. I'm wondering if
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 11: that's what you're thinking about.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: Indeed. And also note that alcohol is a depressant. Absolutely.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: So it's exacerbating an already depressive situation.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: And just making it worse. So reach out, help someone. And,
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: you know, family members, friends, loved ones, you're all in
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: a position to keep an eye. You know these folks
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: better than anybody else. You know the personality. You've known
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: them for decades, let's say. You know when something's wrong.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 11: And reach out. You know, if you're a family member...
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 11: One of the best things you can do is call
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 11: the Veterans Crisis Line and say, hey, I'm worried about
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 11: my son or my brother or whoever it may be.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 11: And what happens is that is a free service. And
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 11: what they generally will find out is, okay, what's the
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 11: guy's name and number? And they will offer to call
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 11: the veteran themselves and do an evaluation to figure out
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 11: what can we do to help that veteran. So the
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 11: family member, community member, they can be the conduit, right,
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 11: the bridge between that says, here, I'll get you help.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 11: Sometimes we have to help people without necessarily them saying,
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 11: help me. If I see somebody fall on the street,
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 11: I'm not going to say, gee, do you need help? Obviously,
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 11: I'm going to run over and say, here, let me
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 11: help you. And sometimes when we see people in a
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 11: situation where they're feeling really down and depressed, we need
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 11: to talk to them and we need to also reach
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 11: out for them and get them the help they need.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: And I would imagine the first try isn't always a
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: successful one. It may take a couple of additional efforts.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: And again, calling the Veteran Crisis Line, which is 988.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: It's like a 911 number, 988. If a veteran's out
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: there struggling with suicidal ideation, the Veterans Crisis Line, 988,
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: and then hit the number one.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: That takes you right to the veterans segment of the
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: Suicide Crisis Line.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 11: And what they'll do is give you VA services. So
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 11: they'll tell you what's available, ask you, hey, do you
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 11: want follow-up? And then we'll call them and help them
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 11: as much as we can.
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  Speaker 1: God bless the American veteran. You know we care about you.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: It's 988, then press 1 for suicidal ideation. And for
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: the family member that needs to get some information on
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: how to help out, Lisa Liston, she's the Suicide Prevention
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: Program Manager at the Cincinnati VA. Steve Belzo from the
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: Clement County Veterans Services. I appreciate what you guys are
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: doing each and every day for the American veterans. Keep
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: up the great work.
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  Speaker 8: Thanks for being here, brother. If I could say one
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  Speaker 8: last thing to your audience, the Compact Act by Congress
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 8: brought about That if you're a veteran suffering with these,
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 8: you can walk into any emergency room without even VA
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 8: health care, and it's going to be covered. You just
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 8: tell them you're a veteran.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: Thanks for adding that. Absolutely. Very important point. And sign
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: up for your VA benefits. It's 8.06 on a Wednesday,
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: and a very happy one to you. Brian Thomas, happy
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: to welcome back to the 55KRC Morning Show. Find her online.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: You want to, and you want to get out and
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: vote November for a multitude of reasons, most of which
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: may be, and if you're in Hamilton County, the, well,
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: the sorry state we find ourselves in so far as
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: at least the juvenile court is concerned, you have a
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: better option than Carrie Bloom, currently head of the juvenile court,
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: weak on crime, looking for juvenile court. Welcome back to
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: the 55 KRC Morning Show. Susan, look, and it's a
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: pleasure having you on.
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  Speaker 2: Brian, it's great to be back on the show. Thanks
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: for having me.
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  Speaker 1: Now, as a Hamilton County Probate Court magistrate, how does
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: that better? Getting that out of the way. Apologies for
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: that nonsense last time.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I inadvertently referred to her as a judge, and we
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: just kept talking about the realities of the juvenile court
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: system because we need to get her in the juvenile
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: court bench. Anyway, we're not going to make that mistake
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: this time. So magistrate looking. And I've heard great things
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: about you, which I know about your experience as a magistrate,
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: which is not quite a judge, but you do make
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: legal decisions. And quite often they're just adopted by the judge.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: But in the probate court, how does that help you
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: in your role as the next juvenile court judge?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So as you're sort of alluding to, it's been an
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 2: interesting few weeks since I was last on the show
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 2: on August 6th. And we'll just get that elephant, you know,
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 2: we'll address the elephant in the room. As you know,
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: a complaint was filed with the Board of Professional Conduct
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 2: with the Supreme Court of Ohio. And based on my
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 2: appearance on that show, on the August 6th show, and
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: I just want to let your listeners know that I've
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: never had a complaint filed against me, either as an attorney,
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: as a magistrate, and you know I'm a first-time candidate.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 2: So this was a brand-new experience for me for sure.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 2: And I'm very happy and thankful that the hearing panel
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: arrived at the truth and unanimously dismissed the complaint. And
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 2: they assign costs to the other side. So I'm deeply
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: grateful to my legal team for all their work and
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: for you offering to do an affidavit. And I really
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: appreciate just there was a tremendous outpouring of support after
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 2: that that I received from colleagues and family and friends
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 2: and really from the community. So, yeah, so just for
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: the record, I just want your listeners to understand that
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 2: this whole case, that this whole matter was over a
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: misspoken word, just simply a mistake, which seems crazy. I've
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: been on your show now, I think, four times, and
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: we've been over this over and over again. And just
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: so your listeners know and understand, and I want to
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: tell them, I would never intentionally misrepresent my qualifications, and
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: we've talked about it before. I currently serve as a
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: magistrate in probate court. I previously have formerly served as
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 2: a magistrate twice in juvenile court. One term began in
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 2: August 2011, and the other term began in August of 2021.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 2: And there are some differences between magistrates and judges here.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 2: But magistrates and judges both hear cases. We decide cases.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: We sit on the bench. And when you refer to
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 2: me as a judge or your honor, that happens all
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: the time. And attorneys do that all the time and
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 2: even litigants do that all the time because that's what
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 2: we do. We hear and we decide cases. And in
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 2: juvenile court, the magistrates actually hear most of the cases.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: They hear a lot of the cases. And then, you know,
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 2: some of the cases then go up to the judge
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 2: for the disposition. So they, which is in juvenile court,
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: that's the sentencing, right? And so the judge then decides
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 2: what the sentencing may be. They may decide if a
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 2: youth then goes on to DYS. So, you know, and
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 2: the other part of my qualifications too is I've also
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 2: been a court administrator for over 13 years. And I
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: think that that's also really important. We've talked about this
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 2: too for juvenile court because juvenile court runs a detention
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: center and It runs a clerk's office. And Hillcrest is
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 2: supposed to reopen now in January after it's been shut
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: down for over three and a half years, which I
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: think is unconscionable. And again, that's a whole other issue. But,
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: you know, Brian, while I think qualifications are really important
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 2: and I think I'm really well qualified to serve as
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: a juvenile court judge, the thing about this race is
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 2: it's really about the issues. And this whole case has
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 2: been a distraction from the issues. And the issue here
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 2: is that Carrie Bloom, as a juvenile court judge, her
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 2: record on juvenile court justice has really been a problem.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: And that's really been, I think, for a lot of
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: people who are looking at this race who live in
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 2: Hamilton County, that's what the central issue has been. And
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: I truly believe that this race is the most important
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: judicial race in 2026. And the reason for that is
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: because I believe that Carrie Bloom is the administrative judge
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: And juvenile court has done more to jeopardize public safety
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: and to erode confidence in the judicial system than probably
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: any other judge on the bench right now.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: Well, I get the impression that she has, as the
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: administrative judge of the juvenile court, a tremendous amount of
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: power over policy, how the various judges that are dealing
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: with juveniles treat the juveniles in their courtroom, and this Obviously,
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: soft on crime policy. I learned the other day that
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: she only allows juveniles to keep, like, of a gun spec.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: If a juvenile is pulled over or caught with a gun,
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: that charge, having a firearm, which is unlawful for them
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: under the circumstances, but only will have that charge dismissed
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: and not prosecuted for having a gun, but unless they
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: actually fired the gun and the bullet actually hit someone.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: So if you don't have felonious assault or murder, then
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: the kid never gets in front of a judge on
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: the gun charge. And what do we hear time and
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: time again from our elected officials and everybody else? Guns
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: are the problem. We need to get rid of guns, guns, guns, guns, guns. Well,
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: one of the ways you approach gun crime is you, well,
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: treat kids with guns in a harsh manner.
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  Speaker 2: Right. No, I've heard that, too. You know, and when
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 2: I was in juvenile court, any case where there was
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 2: a gun involved at all went on the judge's docket.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: And so those cases were handled and treated the way
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 2: that they should be as a serious matter. And you're
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 2: absolutely right. And one of the questions that actually came
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 2: up in cross-examination during the hearing was, was about whether
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 2: or not an administrative judge has any authority over another judge.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: They don't have authority over the other judge, but you're
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: absolutely right that they set the policy for the magistrates.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: They set other policies about things like whether or not
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 2: juveniles are shackled. That's another issue that I've heard about lately,
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 2: about how they're treated when they're coming into courts. They
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: also make decisions about whether or not Hillcrest gets shut down.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 2: They make budgetary decisions, and the juvenile court budget has
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: grown just tremendously. And that's really another subject for another time,
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 2: in spite of the fact that Hillcrest has been shut down.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 2: And again, this is another topic that we've talked about, too.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 2: When we're talking about the most vulnerable children, the children
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 2: in these abuse and neglect cases, we're seeing some delays
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: in those cases, too. And so... You know, there are
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 2: just so many other issues that are going on too. And,
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 2: you know, the administrative judge has a really important leadership
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: role in so many different ways. And it just has
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 2: such a broad impact on so many different areas. And,
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: you know, that budget in juvenile court, I believe it
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: is almost $ 40 million. And that has a huge impact
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: on taxpayers in Hamilton County too. So there's so many
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 2: different implications beyond just public safety and the juvenile delinquency
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: problem in Hamilton County.
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  Speaker 1: Magistrate Susan Lukin, online, lukinforjuvenilecourt.com. There's a donate button there.
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: There's a get involved button there. And I encourage my
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: listeners to get a yard sign and donate to the
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: extent they can. Financial contributions are important. And, of course,
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: door knocking and getting involved in campaigns really helps out
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: a lot. You mentioned Magistrate Lukin. Hillcrest being shut down.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: You mentioned Hillcrest three times in your comments. Can you
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: fill in the blanks and maybe explain to the listeners
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: who are maybe not quite familiar with why Hillcrest is
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: shut down and what it's for and why that's an
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: important issue for you?
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: So Hillcrest is a local placement center, and that's really
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 2: important that kids be able to stay locally, that their
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: families are here. And Hillcrest was shut down in 2023
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 2: when Judge Bloom became the administrative judge, and it was
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 2: shut down after one of the staff members had an
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: inappropriate relationship with a youth there. And what boggles my
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: mind is if you took an analogous situation, if you
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 2: had a school and a teacher had an inappropriate relationship,
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: you would never shut down the school. You'd fire the teacher, right?
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: And the school would stay open. And so Hillcrest was
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: shut down. And it's my understanding that the youth who
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: were there either had to go back to detention to 2020,
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 2: and some of them may have gone, and I'm not
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 2: sure about this, but may have had to go to DYS.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 2: But I know that they went back to 2020, which
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 2: is not an ideal placement. Hillcrest was a much better
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 2: placement where they could actually, you know, it was more
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 2: like a residential setting instead of a detention setting. And
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: so it's been shut down for that long. And, you know,
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 2: now they're looking at reopening it with, I think, cooperation
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: with Talbert House. So why it's been shut down for
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 2: that long as an alternative to detention or to other placements,
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know. But that's a really good question. And
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 2: the budget, why the budget– Hillcrest used to be a
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 2: third of the juvenile court budget. And so why the
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 2: juvenile court budget has continued to expand the way that
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: it has without operating Hillcrest is, I think, another really
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: important question.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: I'd like to know where the dollars went, Magistrate Buchan.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: got Susan looking on the phone here, looking for juvenile court.com. I,
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: you know, one of the things I suppose the current
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: juvenile court under Carrie Bloom's being operated into the fact
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: that I think they just believe requiring juveniles to actually
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: participate and go through the criminal justice system because they
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: have been caught committing crimes is sort of bad for
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: that person. Oh my God, they're going to be scarred
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: for life. Oh my God, we can't do this to them.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: Let's treat them with kid gloves. Let's get them out
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: back on the street. that, And you pointed out kind
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: of on your Stop the Revolving Door point on your website,
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: you know, young offenders cycle through the system without meaningful accountability,
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: which is one thing, but also support. You know, you
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: said you'll enforce the law fairly. You know, everybody gets
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: equal accountability, support the victims, but help young people return
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: to the right path before mistakes become lifelong patterns. They
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: ignore the reality that treating juveniles harshly or holding them
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: accountable can turn that kid around. Magistrate, look, I used
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: to be a libertarian little guy, a little libertarian I am,
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: and I used to say out loud, I do not
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: believe in criminalizing self-abuse, referring to drug use. If you're
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: dumb enough, you want to use drugs, then you're going
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: to suffer the consequences. But that takes out of the
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: equation the idea that getting someone through the criminal justice
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: system might get them into drug court where they can
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: get counseling and help and hopefully get out of the
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: vicious cycle of drug abuse. Same thing for the juvenile.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: You're doing the juvenile a disservice because most of these kids,
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: or a lot of them, I presume, come from broken
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: families where they're not going to get the kind of
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: support or, in my case, a spanking from the old
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: man because I broke the rules. It's just broken to
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: look at it that way.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 2: Exactly. And that's what kids need sometimes. They need that intervention.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: They need that structure, and they need a stop. They
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 2: need something to stop and to break that pattern so
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 2: that they don't continue into that pattern of lifelong criminal behavior.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 2: And it's tragic and it's unfortunate, but that's what juvenile
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 2: court is there for. And I really, again– I think
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 2: that what we're doing is such a disservice, not just
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 2: to the community and public safety, but to these kids,
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 2: to the victims. And often the victims are other are
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 2: their kids. You know, the 16 year old who's accused
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 2: of purposefully murdering, you know, that was a 14 year old.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 2: That was another child.
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 10: Yes.
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 2: And so we're seeing children victims. And what did we
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 2: do to try to intervene with that 16 year old?
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 2: we're doing a disservice to all of these children.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: Well, and Christopher Smith is fond of coming on this
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: program and talking about quite often these are black-on-black crimes,
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: and I think some of the opposition to having young
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: black children in the juvenile court justice system maybe gives
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: a racial taint or a bad image, but the victims
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: are quite often, if not mostly, black residents or black
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: people in the various communities. I mean, you're not helping
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: a community out by letting a dangerous kid back on
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: the street either.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 2: No, we're not. And it's tragic.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: It is. Well, I wish you all the best. Lucan
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: for JuvenileCourt.com. Help her out. Read about her campaign and
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: realize that, yes, we have a better alternative than the
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: current Judge Bloom with control of the juvenile courts. Let's
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: help the kids out at the same time. Vote for
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: Susan Lucan. Susan, it's been a real pleasure having you
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: back on the show.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 2: Brian, I really appreciate it. And I'm so glad that
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 2: this is over with and we're getting back to the issues.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: Well, exactly. And anyway, it was as inadvertent as it
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: could possibly be. So I didn't pick up on it
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: and I licensed the practice law still after all this time.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 5: Neither did I.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 2: I didn't even realize it until I read the complaint.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 2: And I'm just, again, I am so glad that the
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 2: panel saw it for what it was and just dismissed it.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: Well, I was a litigation attorney, and I know when
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: I've been in front of magistrates, I guarantee you that
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: I referred to them a judge when I was in court.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: They didn't correct me.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 2: Brian, it happens all the time. It happens all the time.
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 2: It does.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry the morning show was the source of the
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: problem and having to deal with that, but fortunately it's
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: behind us. It's ridiculous, and yes. Focus on the issues,
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: and when you do that, you will conclude, as I
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: have and so many other people have, that Susan Lucan
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: is right for juvenile court here in Hamilton County. Hope
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: to talk to you again real soon, and I wish
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: you the best on the campaign trail.
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 2: Thanks, Brian. I appreciate it so much.
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: Anytime. It's 820 right now, 55 KRC, the talk station.
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: Phone lines are open. No judge in an appalachian or
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: the listener lunch. In most cases, we do it the
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: first Wednesday of the month, which is today, of course,
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: because of the holiday coming up. Just wanted to make
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: sure everything was all right. We're going to do it
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: next Wednesday. We're going to be at Turf Club. And
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: for those like, well, wait a minute, Turf Club isn't
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: open for lunch on a Wednesday.
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  Speaker 2: True.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: They are opening for us, as they have in the past.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: I just really love that place. We go back, me
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: and the Turf Club, or the Turf Club and me,
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: a lot of years, like decades worth. Anyway, I love
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: the burgers there. I love the atmosphere. It's just the
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: ultimate dive bar. Great food and all the neon signs.
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: So put it down on your list of things to
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: do next Wednesday. Usually meet around 1130. Lots of flexibility
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: built into that. So if you haven't been to the
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: Turf Club, use this as an excuse and enjoy the
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: fellowship that always comes with the 55KRC Listener Lunch. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK,
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: about 550 on AT & T phones. And it is
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: kind of a local story, but, you know, we're all,
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: I hopefully, gravely concerned about the rise of socialism in
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: this country and, you know, gravely concerned about the seemingly
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: lack of patriotism in this country. I am. And you
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: worry about young people as well. Coming off the heels
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: of my conversation with Magistrate Luecken about the juvenile court problem,
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: a juvenile court problem we have with juveniles in downtown
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati having a problem as well. So thank you, Gene.
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: And Gene's been a listener lunch, speaking of which, and
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: he referenced that, but he wanted to let me know
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: what happened to he and his wife over the weekend.
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: So Gene, I think, is probably a grandfather age. And
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: in fact, he mentions his granddaughter. That's why they were
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: at this high school varsity soccer match. He said the
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: suburb where the school is considered fairly liberal and their
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: opponent is from what I consider a fairly conservative area.
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: Girls from both teams on the pitch going through their
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: pregame warm-ups. Fans of the team seated on the appropriate
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: sides of the pitch. They were sitting behind one of
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 1: the goals. He said not so crowded there, and he
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: said it was fewer steps for him, so he was
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: comfortably seated. But in front of a group of a
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: dozen or so high school boys, he says doing the
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: things that teenage boys do, clowning around, watching the girls.
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: Music was playing in the stadium. He referred to the
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: music as indescribable. As a senior, I guess I can
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 1: get that. He said, but everyone there seemed to like it,
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: and maybe they just ignored it. Then the announcement came.
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: A few very positive words were spoken about America, a
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: few of them anyway, and then the request to stand
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: for the national anthem. I know what you're thinking, right?
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: I stood with my hand on my heart and faced
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: the flag. They play the national anthem. He said it's
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 1: similar to the one that we play here on KRC.
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 1: As the music played, I noticed how quiet it was.
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 1: I glanced around and saw that the fans, the girls
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 1: on the pitch, even the teenage boys and some tennis
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 1: players nearby, all were standing straight up at attention and
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 1: with the hand on their heart, which he said it
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: warmed my heart. When the anthem was finished, there was
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 1: clapping and hoorays throughout the stadium. He said it brought
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 1: tears to my eyes. And here's the point. It gave
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 1: me an inkling of hope that our country will survive.
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 1: Not for me, he said, but for our children and
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 1: our grandchildren and their children. And he's concluded with, oh,
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 1: and by the way, there were no shootings or fights
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 1: or any other negative activity at the game. The evening
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 1: went the way it was supposed to. God bless America.
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 1: God bless Eugene. I appreciate the uplifting message you sent.
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 1: And I would like to think, and remember, keeping in
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 1: mind how we all get depressed and we all think
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 1: the world's coming completely unglued because of social media. Any
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 1: bad thing, any group of, oh, I want to use
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 1: an FCC noncompliant word, any group of sphincters who thinks
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 1: it's appropriate to sit down while the national anthem is playing,
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 1: raise their collective middle finger, whatever insult they can raise
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 1: against the United States in any way, shape, or form,
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 1: that's going to make the news.
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 7: Why?
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 1: Because it doesn't happen as often as what happened with Gene.
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 1: You don't hear. about things going the way they were
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 1: supposed to. That doesn't generate clicks. That doesn't gin up
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 1: anger and concern and worry and, oh, my God, we're
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 1: all going to die. And I'm glad we all have
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 1: some of that kind of concern and worry. That way
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 1: we can get in front of problems before they become, well,
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 1: a problem, at least a systemic problem. But in a
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 1: world full of gloom and misery, seemingly, I appreciate that
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 1: uplifting message. Try to find them where you can. And
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 1: moving over and pivoting to local stories, which includes things
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 1: terrible in the world, investigators say Rain Phoenix Brown asked
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 1: others online to send him child sex abuse material. He's 24.
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 1: When police searched his home in Evendale, forensic examination of
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 1: electronic devices uncovered thousands of files, including AI-generated sexual images
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 1: involving minors and numerous photographs of real children. Sorry to
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 1: take the wind out of the sails of optimism on this.
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 1: Now he is admitting to the felonies stemming from the investigation.
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 1: Pleaded guilty in Hamilton County Court yesterday to three counts
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 1: of pandering sexually oriented material involving a minor, one count
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 1: of tampering with evidence. He had originally pleaded not guilty.
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 1: Started with his online activity. Parents, what are your children doing?
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 1: What are your children doing? Anyway, if the judge orders
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 1: and sentences run... Actually, he's facing now, rather, six to
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 1: 18 months in prison on each of the three fourth-degree
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 1: felony pandering charges... Nine to 36 months on the third-degree
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 1: felony tampering charges. If the judge orders the sentences to
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 1: run consecutively, let's hope he does. He could spend as
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 1: much as seven and a half years in prison, which
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 1: I don't think is adequate prison time for this kind
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 1: of offense, but that's not me. I didn't set the
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 1: sentencing guidelines. Let's just hope he gets the full weight
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 1: of the law. And, of course, they're talking about sex
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 1: offender registration, too. You want to be there at sentencing?
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 1: The date? October 1st. And more shootings in downtown Cincinnati.
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 1: Sad to report the Cincinnati Police Department is investigating a
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 1: man who was killed near the University of Cincinnati College
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 1: of Medicine yesterday, 123 East Shield Street in Coralville about
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 1: 5 p.m. Police responded to a reported shooting. Officers got there.
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 1: They found two victims suffering from gunshot wounds, one with
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 1: life-threatening injuries. That person did die from his injuries after
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 1: both were taken to UC Medical Center for treatment. Police
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 1: have identified the man who is dead as 24-year-old Jonathan Edwards.
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 1: No suspect information available at the time of reporting. Shooting
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 1: still remains under investigation. You can help if you have
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 1: any information. The Homicide Unit of the Cincinnati Police Department
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 1: is who you should call, which is 513-352-3542. Or I'm
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 1: imagining you can call Crime Stoppers 352-3040 and leave a
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 1: message or a tip there. 835 right now, 55KRC, the
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 1: talk station. More coming up. And a further comment about
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 1: something we were talking about earlier, lowering the Biden-era vehicle
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 1: fuel economy requirements. Jay had a good point on that earlier,
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 1: but I found some information from a listener since then,
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 1: which is kind of intriguing. Don't go away. Be right back. 839,
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 1: and happy Wednesday to you. You can feel free to call.
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 1: As Jay did earlier, and he commented on an article
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 1: I had right in front of me when he called.
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 1: It was about Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy saying that the
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 1: administration will be releasing new CAFE standards. That's the average
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 1: miles that any manufacturer has to have in terms of
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 1: miles per gallon for the automobiles. Biden administration wanted it 50.4, 50.4.
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 1: And the Trump administration under Duffy just rolled out, they
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 1: say they want to do a combined industry-wide average of 34.5.
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 1: Common sense, fuel economy standards because we wanted Detroit to
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 1: build cars that Americans want to buy. Okay, and Jay's point,
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 1: and I agree with him all day long, was wait
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 1: a second. Why is there any, any.
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 7: Minimum?
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 1: Why is there any industry average? I know, global warming, right? Yeah,
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 1: we're not going down that road right now. Give us choice.
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 1: I said in the context I keep hearing and reading
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 1: about really low-cost vehicles. Why do you have to buy
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 1: a vehicle that has all of this crap in it
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 1: designed to increase fuel economy? Can't you just buy a
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 1: car you want to buy if you're worried about the
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 1: price of gasoline, which does keep going up? Then buy
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 1: a fuel-efficient car. They're on the market. If you want
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 1: to buy one that gets worse gas mileage because you
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 1: need a massive truck or, acknowledge, you just want to
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 1: buy a giant gas-consuming vehicle to go to Kroger. You
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 1: should be free to do that. You'll do so at
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 1: your own financial harm, but, you know, whatever. People have
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 1: choices in life. People make stupid decisions all the time.
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 1: But give me an option. And so one of the
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 1: listeners sent me this. It was a genius concept. Apparently
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 1: this company wants to build the basic vehicle that I
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 1: was talking to. It's called RioTrucks.com. I'll leave it to
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 1: you to decide if this is a real genuine thing
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 1: or not. But a very inexpensive base model carb. The
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 1: Rio runabout, the first one is listed, is.
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 6: $ 21, 500.
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 1: It's even got 4,500 pounds towing capacity. Mechanical four-wheel drive,
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 1: but it's minimalist. If you want stuff and things, there
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 1: are options out in the world to add them on.
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 1: This article, and I think the listener mentioned, let aftermarket
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 1: manufacturers cater to the demands that these minimalist cars have.
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 1: You want an extra special radio? Go out and buy one.
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 1: You don't want a GPS system and Big Brother software
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 1: and massive computers that are following you around and are
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 1: very expensive to fix if your mechanic can even fix them?
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 1: You don't have to buy them. I love the option.
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 1: It solves so many people's problems. First off, the cost
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 1: of transportation to own your own vehicle, and many people
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 1: must in order to go to their job. You're going
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 1: to be employed. You need a vehicle. I can't afford
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 1: a $ 50, 000 car. Why is it 50? Well, ABS brakes
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 1: and cameras and GPS monitors and computer systems and all
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 1: the safety and all the fuel economy standards. I commented
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 1: on this in connection with the direct injection in engine.
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 1: The old days, the injectors, the fuel would go over
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 1: the top of the valves, which kept them clean. Now,
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 1: the fuel is injected directly into the cylinder, which bypasses
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 1: the valves and allows massive quantities of carbon to build up.
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 1: Why do they make them that way? Because direct injection
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 1: engines Get better fuel efficiency. But see what the problem
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 1: is they created? No cleaning of the valves. You lose
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 1: fuel efficiency because of that. You also lose horsepower. And
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 1: then it's a costly repair to get all that carbon
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 1: blasted off. How about a non-direct injection car the way
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 1: they used to make them? Give me that option. That's
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 1: something they could do. But the price keeps going up
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 1: and up. So there are solutions out there. But the
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 1: point being, allow the market to determine Just because the
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 1: Trump administration is arbitrarily lowering them to 34.5, these industry-wide averages,
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 1: when maybe there shouldn't be any at all, at least
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 1: it's lower, giving you more choices and options. We're not
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 1: going to make the internal combustion engine go the way
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 1: of the Dodo. Many people like them, me included. But
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 1: no one's taking away the fuel efficiency. cars. There's every
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 1: incentive in the world, especially with the price of gasoline
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 1: going up, for hybrid manufacturers to tout their wares. Yes,
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 1: hybrids are more expensive. There's a lot more going on
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 1: in a hybrid car. That's why it's more expensive. But
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 1: if you can save money and enough to justify the
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 1: additional costing, you get the choice to make it. Isn't
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 1: this what capitalism is all about? Market forces determining what
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 1: is out there, people determining what they want to buy,
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 1: and manufacturers providing the goods and services that the market demands.
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 1: Giving the people what they want without government intrusion, edicts
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 1: and mandates, without government socialism control over the means of production. Or,
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 1: if you're going to go the DSA direction, the way
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 1: they want to go, ownership of the means of production. Yeah,
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 1: I'd love to see what kind of car you're going
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 1: to get from a socialist-owned car company. You know what
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 1: comes to mind immediately? The Volkswagen Beetle. Yes, the people's
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 1: car from the Nazi party. Everybody was going to get
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 1: one of those. Yeah, and look at what you were
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 1: going to get. And did they deliver on that promise
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 1: in Nazi Germany?
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 1: No, they didn't. 844-55KRC, the talk station. Be right back.
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• 2:09:11
  Speaker 1: Talk station. 848 at 55KRC talk station. Tomorrow, Congressman Warren Davidson.
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 1: Love having him on the show, along with iHeartMedia aviation
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 1: expert Jay Ratliff, who I also love having on the show.
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 1: Of course, it was always a pleasure having Jack Atherton
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 1: on the program early this morning, protecting federal elections. Get
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 1: that podcast, 55KRC. iHeart. com. He's brilliant. Donovan Neal, AFP's push against socialism.
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 1: Everybody can get involved. Get your talking points together. Get
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 1: the links and help out, and at least be armed
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 1: to have a discussion with your neighbor's about what the
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 1: DSA is and why the Democrats cannot be trusted if
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 1: they even say no to the DSA platform. They're in
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 1: the Democrat Party. They're all forcing each other in that
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 1: socialist left-wing direction. Kirk, welcome to the show. Thanks for
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 1: calling this morning.
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I just wanted to make a comment about the
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 12: affordable cars.
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 12: When I was in high school, I bought a 1984
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 12: Ford F-150 in Line 6, and me and my dad
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 12: would work on that truck and keep it running. And
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 12: I drove that truck all the way throughout when I
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 12: was in the military.
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 6: And when I.
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 12: Got out, until finally it had like 350,000 miles on.
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 7: It, finally, too.
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 12: And I just didn't have the mechanical knowledge to rebuild
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 12: the motor. So then I bought a 2005 Ranger. I
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 12: own it today. It has 230,000 miles on it. I
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 12: still do the tune-ups on it. I change the plugs,
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 12: change the wires, do the oil change. I put alternators
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 12: on it. I put water pumps on it. I'll never
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 12: buy a brand spanking new car. I will go to
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 12: a junkyard and I will salvage one before I buy
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 12: a new one. If you just do the maintenance on them,
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 12: they'll run forever.
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 1: Exactly right. Regular maintenance, regular oil changes and fixing them.
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 1: You know, Kurt, you could fix them yourself back then.
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question considering the year of
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 1: the cars that you had? Did you have a Chilton's manual?
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 6: I did.
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 12: I did have a Chilton's manual, yeah.
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 1: And now we have YouTube. I actually have Now we
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 1: have YouTube videos.
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 12: I actually have a Chilton's manual for my Ranger, too.
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 1: Good for you. There's a couple of people laughing out there,
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 1: and others are going, what the hell is a Chilton's manual?
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 1: We have the internet now. We just go to YouTube,
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 1: and it tells us how to fix a car. It's
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 1: a great point, Kirk, and you're right. You used to
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 1: be able to work on your own car. Can you
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 1: even work on your car these days? Is that going
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 1: to void the warranty? A modern car, which charges you
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 1: a monthly fee to use things like heated seats, otherwise
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 1: you don't get the benefit of the technology that's already
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 1: built in the car. How blank and stupid is that? Yeah,
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 1: I want a growing demand. I want a basic bare-bones
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 1: car available to the everyday guy or even people who
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 1: can afford something better, free from technology and free from
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 1: Big Brother. I've got to be a little bit critical
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 1: of the Trump administration because we were talking about socialism
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 1: earlier and did a good op-ed from the Journal on
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 1: this one. This is in connection with the Venezuelan oil.
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 1: We are going to own a company, at least a
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 1: share of it. I don't get this. President Trump's long
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 1: said he favors taking the oil when the U.S. intervenes overseas,
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 1: and now he's doing so in an extraordinary fashion. Deal
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 1: announced last Friday with, good point, unelected President Delcy Rodriguez,
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 1: because everybody says that election was stolen, and they're talking
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 1: about new elections. Is Delcy Rodriguez, the person with whom
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 1: he got into an agreement with, going to even be around?
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 1: Is Donald Trump going to be around for another term?
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 2: No.
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 1: He's only around until the new president is sworn in
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 1: in 29. Anyway, 65 billion barrels of oil reserves lost.
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 1: According to the release on Truth Social, the historic transaction
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 1: more than doubles America's oil reserves, greatly increases our oil supply,
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  Speaker 1: and will substantially lower gas prices for all Americans long
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  Speaker 1: into the future. That won't happen soon. Refining issues, which
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  Speaker 1: is another problem with this. The type of oil it is,
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  Speaker 1: another problem with this. But let's just have him as do.
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  Speaker 1: He said he'll use Venezuelan oil to refill the Strategic
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  Speaker 1: Petroleum Oil Reserve, which has been extensively tapped by both
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  Speaker 1: him and Joe Biden. And I'll be critical of Trump
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  Speaker 1: for doing that the way Biden did. He's got a
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  Speaker 1: problem politically on his hands. brought about by something he did,
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  Speaker 1: and now you've got high gas prices. So we're going
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  Speaker 1: to tap into our Strategic Petroleum Reserve to solve a
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  Speaker 1: problem temporarily when we're almost out of oil in the reserve? Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: official details of the agreement not widely circulated, but facts
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  Speaker 1: reported over this past weekend. Describing the journal as not
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  Speaker 1: cause for enthusiasm, the U.S. will take a 35% stake
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  Speaker 1: in a private company run by a guy named Alejandro Betancourt,
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  Speaker 1: a Venezuelan businessman who's close with President Rodriguez. That firm,
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  Speaker 1: his firm, North American Blue Energy Partners, will be able
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  Speaker 1: to develop $ 65 billion in reserves, and the U.S. will
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  Speaker 1: have preferential rights to 20% of what the firm produces
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  Speaker 1: at the cost of production. The U.S. investor here will
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  Speaker 1: be the Pentagon, and I've been scratching my head over
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  Speaker 1: that for a long time, which will structure the investment
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  Speaker 1: through penny warrants and will gain the equity stake without
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  Speaker 1: taxpayer cash. Legal authority for this? So far from clear,
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  Speaker 1: since the Defense Department is investing in a foreign entity.
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  Speaker 1: Can the Pentagon Office of Strategic Capital take such equity stakes?
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  Speaker 1: And bigger question is, should they? Why is the Pentagon
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  Speaker 1: even playing in the global oil markets when it has
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  Speaker 1: enough to do by buying new weapons and short supply
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  Speaker 1: and reforming its broken procurement process? The global oil market
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  Speaker 1: is under stress from the Iran war, but by and large,
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  Speaker 1: It does a pretty good job of matching supply and demand.
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  Speaker 1: Venezuela produced only 1.1 million barrels of oil a day
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  Speaker 1: and a day now. Deep wells in Guyana and new
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  Speaker 1: investments in Argentinian shale, including U.S. entrepreneur Harold Hamm, are
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  Speaker 1: coming in the Americas. Venezuela production will take years to
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  Speaker 1: ramp up. Widely noted point. It's going to take a while.
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  Speaker 1: Who will finance this oil production and which companies will
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  Speaker 1: invest to extract it? Trump has been pleading with U.S.
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  Speaker 1: oil firms to invest their own in Venezuela since he
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  Speaker 1: took President Nicolas Maduro out in January. But most say
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  Speaker 1: the government hasn't provided the right legal or contractual protections.
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  Speaker 1: Politics of this are even more complicated. To put it mildly,
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  Speaker 1: the U.S. government is essentially getting in bed with a
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  Speaker 1: foreign dictator and her favored capitalist. Any foreign firm that
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  Speaker 1: invests will have all three as de facto partners, like
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  Speaker 1: the Chevrons and Exxons and all the other ones. Like,
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  Speaker 1: who are these people? Any foreign firm that invests, I
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  Speaker 1: have those three, Trump will be out of office by 2029,
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  Speaker 1: and a heavy-handed U.S. role might not play well over
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  Speaker 1: time in Caracas. If they have another free and fair
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  Speaker 1: election in Caracas or in Venezuela, are they going to
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  Speaker 1: follow through with the deal? The oil deal will prop
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  Speaker 1: up Ms. Rodriguez, at least in the short term, and
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  Speaker 1: that may be part of Mr. Trump's motivation. She's courted
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  Speaker 1: the president to survive in power and to stave off
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  Speaker 1: demands from the opposition to establish a process for new elections.
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  Speaker 1: Trump likes nothing better than a leader who, well, bends
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  Speaker 1: to his wishes, as the Journal puts it. It's notable
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  Speaker 1: that both the Venezuelan opposition and Rodriguez's left-wing allies, that
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  Speaker 1: would be the right and left, both criticizing the deal.
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  Speaker 1: The lefties view it as a concession to North American imperialism,
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  Speaker 1: and it will play that nationalist card if there is
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  Speaker 1: another election. The opposition, Democratic opposition, views the deal as
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  Speaker 1: an act of illegitimate presidential who has no right to
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  Speaker 1: turn over national resources to a business pal. Imagine if
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  Speaker 1: Barack Obama did something like this.