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Riding the New Wave · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with i R Radio. It's the almost famous podcast. We
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  Speaker 1: are back breaking down another episode of the Bachelor. Ashley
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  Speaker 1: is here as well. Uh. Ashley kicked this thing off
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  Speaker 1: last night. I was at the Ohio University. I was
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  Speaker 1: gonna say the University of how that would be wrong.
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  Speaker 1: It's Ohio University, the home of the Bobcats. An incredible campus,
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  Speaker 1: beautiful place. If you haven't been there in Athens, Ohio,
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  Speaker 1: it is worth the visit. Had a great time. UM
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  Speaker 1: their their student association, UH put on an event and
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  Speaker 1: we had a great turnout, a lot of fun. I
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  Speaker 1: really enjoyed it. So I flew out early this morning
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  Speaker 1: back to Denver. I'm in Denver recording this. Last night,
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  Speaker 1: I was asked the question that I want to kick
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  Speaker 1: this podcast off, asking you, Ashley, who are your top
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  Speaker 1: three favorites on this season? To end up with Zach
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  Speaker 1: Okay Cat from last night? Easy? For sure, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: I think probably Katie's up there. I don't know Brooklyn
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  Speaker 1: is up there too. Brooklyn and Cat would be my
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  Speaker 1: top two right now. Okay, yeah, okay, let's go with
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  Speaker 1: that for right now. But I really think that there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of girls that came to the forefront of
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  Speaker 1: my mind yesterday. I like Gabby for myself. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like gabb would be a good friend for me. She
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  Speaker 1: just seems like very authentic about how awkward she is.
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  Speaker 1: She's like not afraid to be like, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 1: I feel very uncomfortable in this environment, like does he
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  Speaker 1: like me? Does he not like me? Like she's just
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  Speaker 1: And what's cool about her is that she has a
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  Speaker 1: lot of um, I don't even call it awkwardness, but
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  Speaker 1: she thinks she's awkward, and then when she's actually with him,
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  Speaker 1: she's really cool. And I love that we're getting those
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  Speaker 1: moments for her, and he, I think finds that endearing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he does. You're seeing a trend, was zach Uh. He's
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  Speaker 1: he's into it when there's like a mutual interest, even
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  Speaker 1: if you're awkward and you're weird with it, not into
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  Speaker 1: it if there's drama or if you voice that you
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  Speaker 1: feel like the connection is waning, you know, But if
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  Speaker 1: you're into it at all, even if you're so weird
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  Speaker 1: and so awkward, He's like, Hey, I like this, We'll
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  Speaker 1: stick it around. UM. Good question last night from the auditio,
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  Speaker 1: A couple of great questions, a lot of fans of you, Ashley.
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  Speaker 1: As always, I feel like I go to these things
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like your spokesperson, Like I'm like the one,
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  Speaker 1: like you're kind of your security guard. I'm the one
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  Speaker 1: that goes and before you, and they want to talk
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  Speaker 1: about you and be like what's actually like, what's she
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  Speaker 1: what's she doing? And then I get to answer those
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  Speaker 1: questions for you, um the best I can. But um,
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  Speaker 1: it's a lot of fun. I'm glad to be back,
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  Speaker 1: though I'm tired, um tired today it was an early morning. Um.
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  Speaker 1: But we're gonna make this work, Ashley. Obviously, it's been
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  Speaker 1: a week since our last episode. Bachelor Nation has had
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  Speaker 1: a lot of headlines that we're gonna break down later
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  Speaker 1: on as well. But let's jump in to this week's episode.
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  Speaker 1: Kick it riot off and I'll let you take it. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: sounds good. Let's start, of course, at the very beginning,
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  Speaker 1: when they decide that they don't they don't decide. They've
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  Speaker 1: been told that they are going to the Bahamas in
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  Speaker 1: the most classic way. You know, it's like Zach's not
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  Speaker 1: here because he's in the Bahamas. The Bamas on your
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  Speaker 1: on your season. I feel like the Bahamas is always
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  Speaker 1: like that. It's like every other year they're going to
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  Speaker 1: the Bahamas. I guess that you really can't go wrong
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  Speaker 1: with it, though, right, No, I mean I think it's Uh,
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  Speaker 1: there's a couple of places obviously internationally that you would
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  Speaker 1: have loved to go to write Like for me, I
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  Speaker 1: really want to go to Japan. On my season, we
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  Speaker 1: didn't go to Japan. That would have been incredible, right,
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  Speaker 1: just to be in Japan, And um, there's a couple,
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  Speaker 1: but like the Bahamas a little like secret the Bahamas
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  Speaker 1: are like the best place for the show to go
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  Speaker 1: when you're on the season or you're the lead because
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  Speaker 1: it's well because people would be like, it's the Bahamas, right,
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it's not as exotic as you would want, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like a lot of us end up going there to
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  Speaker 1: visit at some point, like we're looking for a tropical vacation.
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  Speaker 1: But it's close and that's such a big deal because
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  Speaker 1: you're not going like multiple time zones, which becomes really
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  Speaker 1: hard when you're filming the show. You are going multiple
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  Speaker 1: time zones. But it's like an East coast West coast thing. Sure,
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  Speaker 1: but you're Yeah, I guess you're in l A during this,
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  Speaker 1: But if you're on the East coast, you're not. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Bahamas are just a very accessible, beautiful, warm, tropical location
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  Speaker 1: that has a lot going on, a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 1: And I think you know, when you start to travel
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  Speaker 1: too far away from the US, it gets really tiring
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  Speaker 1: because there aren't like many days to sleep and get
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  Speaker 1: your jet lag, you know, taking care of you kind
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  Speaker 1: of just hit the ground running and you're tired for
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  Speaker 1: the whole week. And so when you don't have to
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  Speaker 1: travel that far, it's actually even better. Uh. And so
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  Speaker 1: the Bahamas are a great location. I always uh interested
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  Speaker 1: to see what kind of dates they come with up
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  Speaker 1: within the Bahamas because they've been there so many times. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the pig date was legit um, even though it ended
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  Speaker 1: with everybody you know, having diarrhea and getting dysentery. If
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  Speaker 1: you haven't heard that story, it's because everybody swallowed the
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  Speaker 1: water and there's pig poop in it. Um. It's so gross. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: But so I guess they're never going to do that again. No,
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  Speaker 1: but it is. I mean, if you go to Pig Island,
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  Speaker 1: it is worth it. It's an amazing time. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's just don't swallow the water and just keep your
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  Speaker 1: mouth close. Um. But yeah, we went to the Bahamas,
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  Speaker 1: the interesting little tid. But when we went, which I
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  Speaker 1: don't think they had happened this year, at least not
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  Speaker 1: super close. Right before we got there, um, they had
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  Speaker 1: a big tropical storm wipe through the Bahamas and so
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  Speaker 1: it shut down, um the food supply to the island,
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  Speaker 1: and so we didn't. We kind of had like firefest
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  Speaker 1: on the island the whole time where we're eating like
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  Speaker 1: ham and cheese sandwiches because that's all we could get
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  Speaker 1: our hands on. Uh. So that was kind of added.
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  Speaker 1: It was interesting. But it really that that Bahamas trip
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  Speaker 1: was beautiful. It just humbled all of us, which I
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  Speaker 1: appreciate it. It made us feel very much like what
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  Speaker 1: life would look like if you want on a vacation
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  Speaker 1: with me. It's so funny. Okay, Well, the first eight
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  Speaker 1: card goes to cats, question is how deep is our love?
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  Speaker 1: And they, of course just go on the water. It's
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  Speaker 1: just a very it's like a basic bachelor day in
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  Speaker 1: the sense that like there's not like a real activity.
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  Speaker 1: They're just gonna hang out on the boat. They're gonna
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna make their activity applying sunscreen to each other,
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  Speaker 1: and they truly enjoy the sunscreen moment, Like the two
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  Speaker 1: of them are all over each other and it feels good. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: what do you mean to explain? What do you mean
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  Speaker 1: when you feel it between them? For sure, they definitely
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  Speaker 1: have physical chemistry and it's cute because Zach definitely feels like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, how did I get this woman? She's
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  Speaker 1: a model? I have never like she She's not a model,
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  Speaker 1: she's a nurse, but she looks like a model, and
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  Speaker 1: she truly does. She has kind of that like gazl
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  Speaker 1: buncheon look and that they're cute. I get it. I
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  Speaker 1: like it. And then they go to dinner and they
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  Speaker 1: have a very interesting I mean in true in conversation. Um,
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  Speaker 1: she her insecurity. It's you know, one on one dates,
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  Speaker 1: you always bring up your insecurity. You're like your story
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  Speaker 1: of love that you know wouldn't normally share on a
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  Speaker 1: first one on one date in the real world, but
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  Speaker 1: on the batchelor, this is what we're going to get it.
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  Speaker 1: And hers is that she had a really awful relationship
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  Speaker 1: with her mom growing up, and it made me think
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  Speaker 1: I just made me think about like being a mom,
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  Speaker 1: I guess now, just imagining having such a horrible relationship
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  Speaker 1: with your child and how it gets to be that
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  Speaker 1: way to the point where it's like you don't even
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  Speaker 1: like your kid. It's so what it sounds like, it
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  Speaker 1: sounds like they did not like each other, like their
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  Speaker 1: mother and daughter that didn't like each other. That's so
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  Speaker 1: sad and I'm so sorry that she had to grow
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  Speaker 1: up with that. But she said that she didn't even
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  Speaker 1: live in the same house with her mom as a kid,
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  Speaker 1: like Underage Under eight team for some points, because it
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  Speaker 1: got so bad and um, it just seemed like she
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  Speaker 1: didn't have any sort of relationship with the parent thing
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  Speaker 1: that that was not a good relationship there, like between
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  Speaker 1: the two of them. And then she said, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it takes a I you know, as you watch this
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  Speaker 1: every season we have uh most of the time, I
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  Speaker 1: guess most season we have a moment like this, and
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  Speaker 1: I just want to take a second say, it takes
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  Speaker 1: a lot of courage. I can't imagine that Cat dreamed
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  Speaker 1: of telling somebody she was dating about this on national television.
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  Speaker 1: It has to be hard and there has to be
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  Speaker 1: a lot of emotion behind that. Um, but it was
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  Speaker 1: it is courageous to do and to open up. And
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  Speaker 1: you know, she even said it like she did it
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  Speaker 1: because she wanted Zack to know this side of her,
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  Speaker 1: because she knows that his family is more traditional and
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  Speaker 1: that they have a great relationship, and she wants him
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  Speaker 1: to know right away kind of why and where she's
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  Speaker 1: coming from. And I just I think that, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it cannot I just can't. It can't be easy. I
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  Speaker 1: can't relate with it. But it can't be easy to
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  Speaker 1: open up about these things that are so personal to
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  Speaker 1: you on national television on a first date. Has to
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  Speaker 1: be just a lot of like kind of confusion too
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  Speaker 1: behind the scenes of being like do I talk about
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  Speaker 1: this now? Do I wait? And maybe I'll never get
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  Speaker 1: the opportunity to and maybe he's kind of confused by it.
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  Speaker 1: Like just, um, those are always really big moments again
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  Speaker 1: where reality television crosses reality and we see it happen
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  Speaker 1: in front of us. Yeah, like, I can't relate to
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  Speaker 1: this moment either. I guess I'm on the other side.
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  Speaker 1: I'm on the Zack side where it's like I grew
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  Speaker 1: up with that perfect ideal role model in parents and
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  Speaker 1: in their relationship, and it made me think about the
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  Speaker 1: insecurity that she has talking about how she didn't have that,
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  Speaker 1: and how I wonder how it is to navigate relationships
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  Speaker 1: like that. I wonder how often the way that you're
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  Speaker 1: brought up become the thing in the relationship. Like you,
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  Speaker 1: you and Ingest both had great childhood's, great relationships with
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  Speaker 1: your parents. Your parents both had great relationships with each other,
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  Speaker 1: and it's kind of same with me and Jared. So
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  Speaker 1: I just just made me think, like, oh, yeah, like
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  Speaker 1: that that is definitely got to be I don't know, well,
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  Speaker 1: what is it is? I don't know, It's just it's
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  Speaker 1: just the reality for a lot of people. And what
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  Speaker 1: I think she I think what we see here is
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  Speaker 1: kind of that, um, just what you do in partnerships
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  Speaker 1: where you look at somebody else and you say, hey, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, this is something that's happened in my life.
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  Speaker 1: This is my story, and I'm asking you to come
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  Speaker 1: into this story, uh and help me now fulfill the
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  Speaker 1: new dreams and the new things that I want because
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  Speaker 1: I've I've either seen what I don't want or I've
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  Speaker 1: seen what I want, and I'm just I need you
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  Speaker 1: to come along and support me in this, and that's
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  Speaker 1: what she's doing, and I think Zach really wants to
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  Speaker 1: do that. I think zach Is really wanted to do
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  Speaker 1: that for her. Like I think Zach is just like,
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  Speaker 1: I'll do whatever you ask me as long as I
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  Speaker 1: can be with you. Because this is wild. I guess
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  Speaker 1: that's part of the reason that I really liked to
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  Speaker 1: this moment was because it just seemed like he was
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  Speaker 1: ready to be that guy for her. I mean, if
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  Speaker 1: you ask me right now, Okay, if I if this
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  Speaker 1: was DraftKings or Fan Duel and I had um a
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  Speaker 1: bet on whose act was gonna end up with at
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  Speaker 1: the end, I would put all of my money on Cat, Like, well,
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  Speaker 1: this at this point, it's definitely the he likes her enough,
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  Speaker 1: is she gonna like him enough? And I think like
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  Speaker 1: right now they're on a great level together. Sure it's yeah,
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  Speaker 1: well we'll see where it goes. But I definitely would
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  Speaker 1: call her the front runner right now, no question, Like,
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  Speaker 1: very clearly that front runner. He's just like he's giddy,
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  Speaker 1: um Like, he's giddy around her, He's he's goofy around her,
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  Speaker 1: and he I think he's just trying his best, just
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  Speaker 1: to be like, this is a dream for me, This
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  Speaker 1: is what I dreamed of when I signed up for
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  Speaker 1: The Bachelor. It's happening, but now and then we'll have
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  Speaker 1: to see this story play out. I means Zack's biggest
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  Speaker 1: issue is going to be one, how much interest is
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  Speaker 1: he going to be able to show other people? Which
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure there's gonna be somebody else that really intrigues
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  Speaker 1: him and interests him, so that will happen. But two
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  Speaker 1: is how much is he going to get in his
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  Speaker 1: own head about where Cat's feelings are at now for
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the season, Because the more time now
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  Speaker 1: he spins away from her, and after a one on one,
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  Speaker 1: we all know that you're gonna spend some time away
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  Speaker 1: from her. He's not going to see her for a bit.
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  Speaker 1: They're gonna have some separation. Is he is he gonna
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  Speaker 1: like is he gonna be able to stay stable, stay confident,
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  Speaker 1: and also do the small things for her that keeps
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  Speaker 1: her in like knowing that he's thinking of her. It's
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  Speaker 1: gonna get really hard for him. It would be really
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  Speaker 1: hard to fall this quickly, this early in a season
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  Speaker 1: and know that you have a lot of time left
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  Speaker 1: to keep this going. Yeah, I also am wondering how, um,
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  Speaker 1: how he's if he's gonna remain open to the other
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  Speaker 1: girls enough. I think he does. I think he does.
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  Speaker 1: We do. We do see him have a great date
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  Speaker 1: with Brooklyn, and I think he does seem really into
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  Speaker 1: her as well. We see him very intrigued by Aerial
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  Speaker 1: on the group date. And then my final my final
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  Speaker 1: comment on this date is I've we've been harsh on
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  Speaker 1: on Zach, who I know, we know this. What I
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  Speaker 1: really like is when Zach gets in this zone where
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  Speaker 1: he's like, what can I do to be with her? Like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I feel so undeserving. I think a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the times it's kind of like this is
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  Speaker 1: about me finding a life and not about us finding
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  Speaker 1: a wife. And I feel like with him, I like
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  Speaker 1: him in this humble zone. Yeah. Yeah, Well, I mean
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  Speaker 1: that's a great partnership, writing partners, you know what I mean, Like,
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  Speaker 1: it's more like this is for me, Well, it's of
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  Speaker 1: course it's for him. He's the bachelor. Definitely. Well, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he needs to show his interest, but he also I
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  Speaker 1: think it's gonna be hard. Now if I was Zach,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I would have had one on one
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  Speaker 1: this early with somebody like Cat, because I really it's
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  Speaker 1: week four. I think it's gonna get hard for him. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna get hard because I think he's gonna fall
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  Speaker 1: And now he has to wait a few weeks probably
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  Speaker 1: till he can get that one on one time with
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  Speaker 1: her again, and he's gonna see our group dates. And
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  Speaker 1: I know you just said that Zack does a good
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  Speaker 1: job at kind of leaving his heart open, as we
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  Speaker 1: like to say in the show. But I believe it
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  Speaker 1: was Anastasia that even mentioned, uh that he definitely has
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  Speaker 1: his favorites. Uh. So the girls are starting to tell, right,
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  Speaker 1: like they know language is hilarious, Yeah, I actual, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So the girls are starting to tell, which is uncommon.
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  Speaker 1: It happens every season where the favorites start to stand out,
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  Speaker 1: And some of the girls are even very like they
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  Speaker 1: know that Kat and Zach are gonna have a great
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  Speaker 1: one on one, Like they're very confident in that. So
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  Speaker 1: they know that Cat is going to be a front runner.
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  Speaker 1: They obviously like her. They obviously know that she's beautiful
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  Speaker 1: and that she's probably kind to the women there, so
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  Speaker 1: they're like, they're gonna have a great time, and Zack
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  Speaker 1: has his favorite she's going to be one of them.
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  Speaker 1: And now the rest of us are kind of sitting
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  Speaker 1: here twiddling our thumbs figuring out where do we stand.
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  Speaker 1: And that's just gonna I mean, it's gonna be an
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  Speaker 1: interesting part of this season as we continue to watch
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  Speaker 1: is how open is he able to stay as he
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  Speaker 1: starts to fall very quickly and as his heart starts
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  Speaker 1: to lean towards a few women. I don't mind that
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  Speaker 1: when Elite does that, because you want them to have
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  Speaker 1: their favorites, like you want them to have their few
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  Speaker 1: that like they're very into. But we still have a
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  Speaker 1: season the film, and so it's going to be interesting
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  Speaker 1: how that plays out. Okay, so group date time they
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  Speaker 1: do like basically just games with shellfish, which is basically
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  Speaker 1: designed for Gabby to get down herself because she has
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  Speaker 1: an allergy to shell the same here that that would
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  Speaker 1: kill me, Like that date would have killed me. I
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  Speaker 1: saw these funny memes that were like okay, but but
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  Speaker 1: is she okay kissing him like the night after eating shellfish,
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  Speaker 1: Like what is the what is the point of okay?
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  Speaker 1: This is because he have to go brush his teeth
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  Speaker 1: that he had to like rense out with really hot water.
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  Speaker 1: There's there's multiple levels of this. But if if Jessica
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  Speaker 1: has like a shrimp and kisses me like I can
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  Speaker 1: sometimes feel it like it I don't like break out
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  Speaker 1: in my yeah, but you can feel like that your
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  Speaker 1: body is rejecting it or not like not that it
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: tickles or you a little high. I mean, I'm very
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: allergic to shell fish. Um this would have like this
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: would have been my worst nightmare. And even the juices
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: splashing on you can be a massive issue, very dangerous situation.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: We put put her in Oh my gosh, she's so
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: funny about it because obviously she's just she's crying because
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: it is really upsetting. But I know that she's laughing
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: watching this back, and he's not going to hold it
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: against her. She can't participate, but in the moment it
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: makes you feel bad anyway. I like the fact that
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: this group date was kind of chill, hanging out on
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: the beach doing silly games like this and not like
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: a football structured, you know, game that we really don't
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: get to see much like interaction with him. We do.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: We can see him and his body language floating with
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: like certain girls, and we certainly can tell a lot
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: by Zack's body language, and he cannot stand in the
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: station an he was looking for a reason to get
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: rid of Anastasia. Yes he does, because he heard this
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: thing about Instagram. But you can tell when she steals
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: him away and they sit there on that sand together,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: he does not look her in the eyes. And when
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Zack's not into somebody, he literally makes us little eye
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: contact as possible. He's looking out to the ocean, his
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: arms are going to the other direction that she's in.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: It's all over um, but you know he's he tries,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: you know, he's she's trying to not show it, but
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: he can't help it with his body. So I think
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: that when Kylie comes over. Kylie comes over and she's like,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: can I steal for a second. He's probably feeling relieved,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: and the two of the girls, um Anastasia and and
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Kylie get into this battle of like like interpretation where
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: it's like, um, I don't want to fight about this,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Like I don't want to get into a fight about
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: her or something like that, right, and then it's Anastasia
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: goes off and in insinuating that Kylie was going to
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: start a physical fight over stealing time with Zach, and
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: then Kylie was like, no, I didn't want to get
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: like a verbal back and forth, and anyone in their
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: right mind would be like, yeah, this is about a
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: verbal back and forth, not an actual physical fight. But
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: that's what we got, and that just starts a little
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: bit more drama between Kylie and Anastesia that continues throughout
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: the rest of the episode. This is the moment that
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: we officially, uh deem Zach the sweatiest Bachelor of all time.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know if we can't even talk about what
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: when we have people like Josh Murray in Paradise sweaty
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: I had a sweaty back. Yeah, I mean, he looks
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: pretty uncomfortable, not only in the situation, but just with
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: the amount of heat. I'm assuming he um is getting
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: padded down as often as possible, because I can see
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Zach being a sweater. Um. That's why they're showing him
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: showers so often, I think because he needs to keep
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: himself clean. The Yeah, this, uh, this is just a
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: very uncomfortable moment. Zack is not into this stuff. He's
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: not He's not gonna play around with it. He's not
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: gonna play around with the the drama. Um one, I don't
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: think he. I think he's very uncomfortable within the drama,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: like he can't just sit back and watch it play
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: out too. Um. I imagine that he has made the
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: commitment to himself to keep this season as drama free
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: as possible for as long as possible, and so he is.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: They some people come up to me. I don't know
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: where this came from. They used to call me the
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: axe man because I was so good and so quick
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: at getting rid of people. I don't know if I
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: was or not, but I think Zach isn't that. Yeah.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: I think he's the one that just says, now you're out,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: like this isn't working. All right, We'll see you later. Um,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: I think yeah, and he when I look at people's
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: comments about this season, it seems to be one of
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: people's favorite traits about him. Yeah, he's just yeah, nope,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: acts you. Another awkward moment with Anastasia that I just
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: want to mention was when they were playing the limbo
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: and she wanted to give him a kiss for courage
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: and he was like on the cheek and it's like, wow, dude, yes,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: she had to see this coming. Um. Interesting point here
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: though we don't see it often. Something for all of
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: us to think about is Zak has been very quick
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: to tell people to go home when one they feel
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: distance from their relationship, in two when they're causing drama.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Most seasons UH in recent memory, the SO and so
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: dramas starter, some would call it the villain, whatever you
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: wanna call it, has been around for a long time
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: to keep that storyline going. And I've always said that
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: the reason that those people are around for a long
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: time is because, honestly, they're kind of hidden from the lead.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: The lead doesn't know exactly what's going on or what
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: they're saying or what they're doing. That the show does
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: a really good job at protecting the lead from that
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: person because they are good television and the show would
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: like them around a while. And so if the lead
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: ever sees it, yeah, they just say, hey, you're done,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: we're going home. But they protect that person for as
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: long as they can until it's just very obvious. This
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: season we're not seeing that. And one I think that
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: is UH has to do with Zach that I think
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: he's just saying, no, sorry, this isn't no matter how
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: good of entertainment this is, This isn't working for this
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: season to the show is allowing Zach to see all
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: of this happen and allowing all of this to be
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: right in front of him so he's able to make
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: an educated decision. And I wonder, actually, with all of
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: the critiques of the show, when people have said that
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: drama is outweighing the love stories, if this is probably
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: the start of kind of a new era in the
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Bachelor world where the villains won't be the storyline and
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: make up the majority of episodes kind of that week
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: four or five and six, that six that we usually
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: see that if this is now going to change and
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: we'll see this kind of new theme where the villains
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: don't stick around, that the drama doesn't stick around, that
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: love is now back in focus. This is definitely the
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: show's response to that, And I think probably one of
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: the reasons that they chose Zach because they knew that
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: he would front this well. And I think we saw
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: it with Michelle, she was pretty quick to get rid
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: of problem makers, and now I think he is doing
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: a great job doing the same. Also wonder what would
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: happen if this if an issue were to come up
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: with one of his favorites, like with a cat, like
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: with the Brooklyn because we think that he's letting go girls.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: If there's drama around a girl that he doesn't feel
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: strongly for, acts right. But I would love to see
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: how he would deal with if it was somebody that
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: he would really liked. And I guess you could argue
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: that last week with Christina it was somebody that he liked,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: but we also saw that he was pretty uncomfortable issue
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: with the fact that she had a daughter stepping into
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: the stepdad role so immediately, So maybe there wasn't like
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: another little reasoning behind that. Well, we're gonna see that, right,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: We'll see at the end of the season where more issues. Yeah,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: not maybe drama and maybe not the same kind of
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: drama that you see early on in the season's happened
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: with his favorites, But you'll see issues. Right, It's gonna
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: come down to family dynamics, will come down to are
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: you ready or are you not ready? To fall in love.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: It will come down to situations where maybe a cat
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but maybe a cat comes in and says, hey,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I feel like there's distance in our relationship. I feel
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: like we had a spark and that spark is gone.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Those things are going to happen. They just always happened
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: on the show. That's what's made the format of the
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: show work for as long as it had as and
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: so we will see how are you responds to it.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: But right now he's still kind of getting through the
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: people that he's not as interested in that have made
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: it this far. Got a nice little trip to the Bahamas,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: gotten some sun, gotten to hang out, but he's not
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: been super sold out on the idea that they're gonna
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: be together. I just think it's an interesting twist. I
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: like this change in this show. I'm actually enjoying. This
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: part of the show is that love and it feels
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: like these love stories and getting to know these contestants,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: which we've complained about for years, we haven't held played
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: about stupid drama like shrimp where we lose, we lose
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: the opportunity to get to know the contestants because whole
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: episodes are made up of drama and the villain and
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: those things like shrimp Gate that we're like, do we
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: really care that much about? It's funny for a while,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: but it's not funny for a whole episode. I want
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: to see more character development, and I think right now
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: at week four, we're starting to see more of that
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: than we ever have uh in past seasons, and so
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: I am anxiously excited to see continually how that plays out.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: So the group date after party, we see a couple
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: of good connections. We see Ariel and him and he
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: says that he loves this mystery about her, and I
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: have to say, she is mysterious. And she came up
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: to him and was very concerned about how he was doing,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: and I think that was nice and refreshing for him. Um,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: he really is into Charity, He's into Gabby says she's
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: really fun to hang out with. He just seems to
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: be like really driving with these girls until Kylie comes up,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: and it's not like he's not driving with Kylie, but
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: she's like, I'm just not feeling the best because I
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: feel so awkward for interrupting your time earlier. And I
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: have to say I like the it that Kylie was
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: so honest about how interrupting made her feel uncomfortable, because
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: interrupting is just the worst on the show. But she
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: was also after the fact, like after she got that
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: done and sat down with him, it made her feel
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: like prepped and ruddy for the night ahead. And just
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: from my point of view, if you had like a
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: good moment during the daytime portion, like you didn't have
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: to be like super deep or heavy or anything like that,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: but if you had a good back and for the
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: little flirtation during the daytime portion of the day, you
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: had so much more confidence going to the night. And
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: I was excited that Kylie got to experience that because
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: it was very relatable for me as somebody who's on
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: the show. And I feel like that's probably just like
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: how like life goes right. It's like, have a good
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: moment with somebody, don't extend it too long, and then
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: you look forward to seeing that person later. Sure it's
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: like yeah, it's like, yeah, I just love a little
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: like warm up, you know, a little appetizer it needs
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: I needed for the confidence building. Yeah, girls will feel me,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: I think, well, I'm sure they will. And I think
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: there is um it's just always positive when you're open
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: and honest in any relationship. So she's saying it right.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: You get wrapped up in all this dramma, You get
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: wrapped up on all the things happening around you. You
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: get a little frustrated. You're probably your confidences is taking
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a beating, and you say a
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: react in a way that you feel like later on, hey,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: that probably wasn't helping. It might have been hurting, and
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: you think about it all afternoon, and if you're me,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: you bang your head against your pillow and you're like,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: why are you so stupid? But then she was able
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: to say, Okay, I'm gonna confront this, like, I'm going
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: to actually speak to like why I behaved the way
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: it did. I think it's a huge deal and I do.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: I think it helps relationships. Yeah. The other thing that
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: she does though, here in this moment where she admits
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: that she was feeling awkward and blah blah blah, this
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: is when she does the call out of annas Asia.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: She's like, also, Stasia has been saying something about her
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: being here for Instagram followers, and all of a sudden,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: his like siren goes off. This is definitely a sensitive
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: point for him, and she's like, I wasn't there for
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: the actual hearing of the conversation. So then he pulls
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: over Charity who was, and she says that she heard
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: her say something along the lines of like everybody that's
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: kind of still there would get about fifty Instagram followers.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: It's not true. Bachelor Data came out with something today,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: absolutely not true, not even close. So Zach is now
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: obviously concerned by this and pulls Anssia aside, and she
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: seems like flabbergasted by it, and it makes me wonder,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: it makes me see like we just try to think
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: about how to give her the benefit of the doubt here. Okay,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: she is a social media marketer. Okay, so like that
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: is her job, and she's probably she was there probably
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: just asking her about her job. And then maybe one
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: of the girls said, okay, well, if you had to
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: get so many followers we would get by being here
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: in week four, how many do you think we get?
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: And then she may have just responded and like pretty
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: like honestly but inaccurately, and it may have been more
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: innocent than it comes off. But you know, people like
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: to be like the Instagram police on The Bachelor. Now
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: it's it's the new, like what was the old? What
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: was the old? Here for the wrong reasons, just like
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: to be on TV, like and now it's just to
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: get Instagram followers. Was there like something before become the bachelor,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: become the next lead. That was always what it was
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: because like on my season, it was I heard that
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: she was talking about being the next bachelor. Oh my god,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: how dare she? But everybody thinks about that while you're
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: there there, and we've said that before. We're like, that's
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: just ridiculous. It does if you're saying that it didn't
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: cross your mind at some point, and Instagram followers my
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: cross your mind at some point now as well. That
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: ship a little bit has sailed for just where we
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: are on the show, Like people just don't gain as
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: much as they used to. But of course it's something
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: that they're probably going to think of. Uh so you
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: totally get it. I'm babbling, but I totally get why
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: he's concerned. Totally get it. But also I don't think
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: he should or did um let her go home because
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: of this point alone. I think if he was really
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: into her, he'd probably keep her around just to see
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: if there was something more. I don't know, what do
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: you think? I just don't know if it's incriminating enough
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: does that simple sentence. I'm guessing we'll get about fifty
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: followers when you are a social media Marketer, and like
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: you're talking about sort of your job in a sense,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: I'm also playing Devil's advocate. I just want to say, well,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, you'd have to take in the words of
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: the cast mates that were around to hear what their
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: sentiment was and how they think it was communicated. I
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: would have a seems like charities talking about it, hearing
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: it for real. Okay, Well, um, she might have felt
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: different about it. I think you're completely right. I think
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: if Zach was really into Anastasia and really saw a
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: future with her, I don't think this would have been
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: a deal breaker. But I think we've seen in his
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: body language that he was looking for a reason to
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: say goodbye to Anastasia now for at least this week,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: so I don't I don't think like she was going
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: to be around much longer anyways. Um. I would also
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: say that when you're in the house, you know, it's
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: it's not like people typically are just picking everything you
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: say to see if they can twist it. Like That's
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: not how I ever felt in the house when I
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: was on The Bachelorrette, I felt like we were buddies
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: talking about life. Now, somebody said something like I can't
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: wait to be done with this show because I'm gonna
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: be so famous, I'm gonna get paid to go to clubs,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna do all this. We somebody would have
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: probably said, Hey, that sounds weird. It doesn't feel like
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: you're in this for any good reason. But I know
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: that in the house people talked about like situations of well,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: what are you gonna do next? And what do you
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: look forward to after this? And I'm sure somebody asked, like,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: how many followers do you think you're gonna get from this?
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Like stuff like that, and that's innocent, and people typically
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: wouldn't twist that to make you be the bad person.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Um something, Yeah, something was said here, or there's been
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: a tone, or there's been something that's made somebody say, Hey,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: I feel uncomfortable about her intentions of being here, Zack.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: I think we can just close this and say, Zach
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: obviously wasn't that interested in that relationship, and so he said, hey,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: not just because of this, but probably because I'm not
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: that interested, it's time to go home. Mm hmm yep. Alright,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: let's talk about the Brooklyn date. Brooklyn need too. She's nice,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: she's fun, watch She's it seems down to earth. I
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: just yeah, she's she's cool, she's very pretty, and like
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: I would love to have a beer with her and
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: just hear about her life, like she you know, just
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: her job is unique. And she's on this dating show
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: now in a in a world where people probably from her,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: like from the Rodeo world, don't really love the Bachelor,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: I'd imagine, or maybe they're not, Like I don't know,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: maybe they are. I'm just making the assumption that like
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: maybe like Rodeo and like you know, that those people
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: aren't tuning into Monday Night Bachelor all the time. And
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I think it's cool that she's there. So she's intriguing,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: she's interesting, she is sweet, she's down to earth. I
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: like her. I also like her for Zach m hmm.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: I'm watching Brooklyn and this as part of the last
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: part of this episode. I was like, this is a
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: pretty good group of girls left. Yeah, I think there
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: is a group good group of girls still here. I
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: mean I think he's I mean I would still, you know,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: put my stake in the ground and said he's let
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: let go of some really great girls. I'm obviously very biased,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: but I think like even the Brianna like situation, Like,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: you know, we didn't get to see a ton of her,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: and there are some girls that kind of like snuck
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: away here that we didn't get to learn a lot about,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: and I think those women. I think he had a
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: great cast. I think we said that the very beginning
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: when we just saw the pictures, were like, this cast
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: is gorgeous, and so I think he's just had a
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: really good group of women on his season, which is
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: good for Zach. Mm hmm. Really, there's not much to
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: say about the you know, daytime portion of the day.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: It really gets serious on the one on one where
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: she goes, you know, he's talking about how greater personality is,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: just like we just said, and then she was like,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: you would have no idea who I was like a
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: year ago. Like she just says that she's kind of
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: become a full person again after she had six years
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: of an abusive relationship first start out. First it started
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: out as an emotionally abusive relationship and then it turned physical,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: and she said it was something that her entire life
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: she just wanted to avoid. She's like, I wanted to
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: be like my grandparents. They were really healthy relationship role
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: models I never wanted to be how the relationship my
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: parents did, particularly like she just didn't want to ever
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: be with a man like her dad. She said her
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: dad was awful, and then she basically did just that,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: and she finally got out of it, and she said
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: the thing that broke her out of it was the
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: police having to wake her up from being knocked out gracious,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: like unbelievable. I know, it's just this, this is the
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: saddest story. And it's like, I don't even know what
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: to say about it, except for I really do genuinely
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: feel like Zach was handled the situation and hearing her
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: story very well, and and I feel like she felt
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: pretty safe with him, Like she felt safe in the
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: sense that like she could talk to him about it,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: but also in the sense that like he would never
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: do that to her, and he would obviously would never
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: do that to her. But you know what I mean, well,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, earlier on we talked about courage and this.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure there's many people watching this um
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: show and saying, like, you know, one rallying around her
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: uh and saying, you know, to Brooklyn, like you know,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: want us wanting to support her to I'm sure there's
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: people out there watching it that have been through or
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: in a similar situation and now they feel less alone.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: And her courage to speak up and share this story
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: is um, I don't know either the word to put
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: him not only impressive, but just humbling, and it's it's
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: one of those moments where you sit there and you
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: watch it and like your heart hurts, your stomach hurts,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: and you're just like, how can how is this? How
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: do people uh exists in the world that would hurt
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: somebody like her in this way for so long? Like
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: how are there that? Like? How is somebody so terrible?
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: But then then you know for me, as I was
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: watching it and and the switch happened, like but yeah,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: but then look at her, like now she's on television
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: taking a risk, like this is why this show. This
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: is why we fell in love with the show at
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: the beginning, is because people like Brooklyn said, I just
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: I need another shot at love, like I need another
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: shot to put myself out there and see if it
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: can exist. If it doesn't exist here on the show,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: maybe I'll learn something and grow from this experience, And
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back out into the world and find
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: find my partner in the world. And that's you know,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: that's why, Like what this show has always been about
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: is these love stories and these people saying I need
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: a second chance or I need a chance at love.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: And so for Brooklyn to put herself back onto the show,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: I think it's such a big deal, um, and one
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: that we can can't underestimate and one that we can't
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: put words into. Only she could. But um, yeah, this
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: this is uh, this is this is one of those
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: moments you wish never existed in the world, but they
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: but it does, and and Brooklyn now has spoken out
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: about it and so many people I think, um will
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: feel us alone again because of her story, Yes for sure. Alright, well,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: I guess we will move on to the cocktail party.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: I'd say the most notable thing to talk about here is, well,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: this is where Anastasia gets eliminated. Kylie gets really upset
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: at the fact that she even brought up in the
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: situation about Instagram because she just feels like she's now
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: responsible for somebody's elimination. She shouldn't feel this way, and
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: I think she was just exaggerating. But I understand. I
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: understand that, I understand the guilt, but she she should
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: just know she's fine. Yeah, and how much of that
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: gil is coming from her being concerned to that Zack
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: is going to see her as kind of that like
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: fire starter tittle tale. That's what she also said. She
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: was like, I'm afraid I'm not going to get a
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: rose because I was the one who like stirred up drama.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: She gets the rose. And the other thing is d
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Villa is getting emotional because she feels like she hasn't
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: had a lot of quality one on one time, which
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: is probably true, and he she sees Hi and she
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: sees Zack pulled cat aside for one on one time
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: when she already has a rose, had a one on
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: one all that, and it's just like, Okay, I'm feeling
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: very bottom of the totem pole here. And unfortunately she
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: was right because she did get eliminated, and she got
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: eliminated after like they did kiss at the cocktail party,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: but you can tell him the kiss that it wasn't
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: there for him and it made me feel sad for her,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: But she doesn't really know. She didn't really know in
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: the moment. It was just kind of a couple of
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: little pecks were as the other kisses are far more passionate.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: At the Rose ceremony, we see di Villa and Genevieve
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: go home. Genevie. Justice for Genevieve. She broke her arm
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: during this season and went home in week four. I
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: mean that talk about somebody's going to go home and
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: be like, was that worth it? I'm hoping she's laughing,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: giggling about all this today because this show put her
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: through the ringer. Oh that's funny. Poor girl. You know,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: she'll always have a story to tell. A couple of years,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: she'll be she'll be glad. Yeah, poor girl. Um So
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: who we have left now? Not that many? I mean
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: we have a very small group. Oh glad. I'm glad
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: we are at this point that we can remember all
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: names and really like root for people. You got Charity, Katie, Gabby, Jess, Mercedes,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Ali Greer, Kylie, thank kat Thank you, kat In Brooklyn.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Of these girls the ones that, oh scenario, thank you
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: for giving me the rose, the Rose getters that happened
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: before the Rose ceremony. Of these girls, the ones that
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: are not standing out to me so much like I
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: can't I'm not like, oh, yes, I remember that moment.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: I remember that moment with them would be just and Mercedes,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: what about you? Oh yeah, I mean i'd probably have
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: to say the same thing. I just just did have
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: a moment this week, he said. He said, I'm glad
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: you're here. Like, well, you know, he was like, I
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: know you're probably feeling a little bit behind, but like
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: I just know that I'm like really glad you're here.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: So that is a very comforting thing for her here.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: It's better than him being like, hey, you know, I
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: just didn't have enough. Yeah, I have a couple of
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: roses here and honestly you just kind of made the cut. Um,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: So no, it's better there. I mean, I I really
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: think next week we're gonna see Gero home. No really,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: I do. I just have this first impression Rose. Yeah.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: He hasn't given her a date. Yeah, that would be
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: really crazy. Yeah, I just feel like it's going to
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: be one of those first impression roses that kind of
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: like come in then leave earlier than we expect. I
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: have a prediction. I don't know anything. We have headlines
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: to break down Ashley. Let's jump into him. The first
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: headline is about me. Um, yeah, well you can take
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: this one, then you can break it down here it goes.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Chris Lane and Lauren Bushnell Lane react to his run
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: in with Ben Higgins at the golf tournament the Hilton
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Grand Vacations Golf Tournament. This is according to US Weekly. Okay, well,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Chris Lane and Lauren Bushnell Lane spoke exclusively to US
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Weekly after her ex fiance Ben Higgins revealed that he
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: played in the same golf tournament as the country singer.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: It was great. I know he I know he's played
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: in that tournament for several years now. Chris said, um.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: And then he continued to say, I was very excited
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: to be part of it down there in Orlando. And
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: then Laurence said that Chris has been talking about this
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: tournament leading up to leading up to it for about
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: four months. And I've never met someone who loves golf
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: as much as Chris Lane, except for maybe you, Ben Higgins.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I'm offended. Yeah, And then they
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: also said Ben was actually the first pete, one of
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: the first people that I ran into at the hotel.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: This is what Chris is saying. And he had a
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: chance to talk to you for a little bit. What
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: a nice guy. We had such a great time We
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: didn't get to play golf together, but we had several
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: run ins and it was great. We should have played
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: golf together. We had the same score after day one
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: and wells. Chris and I were like, there's no way
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: they don't put us together, and I was looking forward
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: to it. We did have a good time. It was
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: nice to hang out with Chris. We did get to
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: hang out quite a bit. I enjoyed it. We talked
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: about the podcast, But how the tournament did not put
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Chris Lane and I together walking the fairways competing as
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: each other is beyond me. I don't know what what
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: why they didn't. It's as yeah, we could have. We
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: could have created some job. We could have fake fought
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: or really fought. I don't know if I um on
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: the fairways, but yeah, it was great to be with him.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: That's such a cool tournament. It was so fun and
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: I'm happy anytime somebody else gets the invite um to
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: enjoy it with us. So um, yeah, that's that headline.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Next headline is this Bachelor Nation couple Joe and Serena
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: are definitely thinking about kids some days, says real real
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: juicy han guys. Uh. They talked on their first day
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: in Paradise that they'd like to have kids, but not
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: right now. They're assuming that they'll like to have to
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: but they're in no rush and that's all they got. Goodness,
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: that's all we have. Okay. Uh. This is a question
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: that gets asked very often. In fact, it was asked
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: me last night at Ohio University. What happens to the
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Neil Lane engagement ring after Bachelor Nation splits? Um, some
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: leads talked to Yahoo and explain. Okay, so there are
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: two ways for Bachelor Nation members to keep the engagement
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: ring gifted to them by ABC. You either make it
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: down the aisle, or you stay engaged for at least
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: two years. After a certain number of years you get
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: to keep it anyways, but after months it goes back.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: That's what Chris Harrison said to Entertainment Weekly. Um. It's
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: also makes me wonder about certain situations though, where like
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Chris ran Down and Crystal they got married. They got married,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: but they were only together for two years and then
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: they got divorced like six months later. So what does
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: that mean. I'd imagine they keep the ring, okay, because
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: it says make it down the aisle. Imagine they keep
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: the ring it's in their name. Then okay uh, and
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: then let's see Ali. We have a couple of examples here.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Ali said that she and Roberto weren't getting together for
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: eighteen months. Wow, that's actually feels like I can't believe
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: they're were together for eighteen months. Um. And she says,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: I know that number so well because I was like,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: I don't want them to take my engagement ring away,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: and she was like, this is part of my history,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Like this is mine. You cannot have it. Per the contract.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: It was supposed to be two years, but they let
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: her keep it. Good for her, Good for her. I
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: want to know what happens once it goes back, Like
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: does Neil Lane resell that is? Is there like millions
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: of dollars of engagement rings sitting in Warner Brothers like
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: block box right now? Um, Mike, my guess would be
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: that they take the diamonds out and they reuse the diamonds,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: wouldn't you think? I always wonder if you're like getting
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: somebody else's like cursed diamond though, like from a relationship
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: that didn't work out. Could be it could be. I mean,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: those things are big. I gotta read this about Becka
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Koufren says Season fourteen Bachelor Becker Koufer and once joked
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: about having a ring a yard. Uh, they get to
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: keep them all locked away, hidden from everyone, all the
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: scorned rings, That's what she said. So I guess all
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: of Becca Koufren's rings, which according to our deductions and
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: that and that rule would mean that yes, they went back.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: Goodness gracious. Well. Ivan Hall opens up about his relationship
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: with his girlfriend and his time on reality television. Well,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: he posted this in an Instagram. He said, this beauty
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: here is all mine. We have known each other for
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: many years and always find our way back to one another.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more of our journey. That's what we got. Oh,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: she's a doctor, she's an antcesiologist. She's also extremely athletic.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: She deserves the world. Wow, what a catch, What a catch? Well,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Love Is Blind's Cold Barnet is rumored to be spending
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: time with the Bachelor Season twenty winners Susie Evans. So
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: Cole said that his first date that is not Love
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: is Blind oriented, was with Bachelor season winner Susie Evans,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: and apparently the conversation went very well or flirting, and
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: I think it's maybe like a phone call dates. It
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: was something like that, so it wasn't a real Yeah. Yeah,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: it seems like it's starting. It's like the starting out,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: like a starting out phase. But by the end of
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: this call, Susie said hurry up and getting my d
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: m s. And then he ended the call by telling
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Susie to hurry up and getting his d m s.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: And then Susie said, I'll shoot you one over And
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: this is all happening kind of like in a public form.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: I think it was like an interview. Wow, this is
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: a big deal. Big deal. Well, final headline. It is
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Valentine's Day. So for all of you out there who
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: are celebrating romantic love, hey, I hope you have a
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: great day. For all of you out there who are single, hey,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: I hope you have a great day. I hope this
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: is an awesome day for you. Don't get down in yourself.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Um uh. This day is always a weird day for
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: so many But if you are in love and you're
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: celebrating Valentine's Day, we have a little um info from
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: two of Bachelor Nation's biggest stars. Trisa Sutter and her
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: husband Ryan have lasted over twenty years as the o
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: G Bachelor Nation couple. They explain how in this article,
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: so she says that they're actually still learning to communicate
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: even twenty years later. Like sometimes we'll say stuff like
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: I know that you have done nothing wrong, but this
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: is still really difficult for me. I love you, but
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: I just need time to figure things out and just
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: to figure out my own emotions. Not for us to
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: figure this out, but figure out how to process and
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: deal with this on my own, She says. Naturally, when
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: you're in a relationship, you figure out when to engage,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: and then they still do. But we also have to
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: like ask each other questions and constantly remind each other
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: that we need to be in a relationship. And even
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: after twenty years, you can still learn how you know
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: your partner wants to be communicated with some good tips.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: They're seventy two years. Her grandparents are married. That's awesome.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: My parents just celebrated forty years um a few days ago.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Massive accomplishments out there. Congratulations to your parents. Yeah, great
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: people to look up to. Hey, that's all we have
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: for you today. This has been the Almost Famous Podcast.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: Back next week with another episode of The Almost Famous Podcast,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: Breaking down episode of five of Zach season of The
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Bachelor allows to look forward to a lot to We
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: talked about that for a second. It's happening in London,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: which is exciting. I think that's a really cool location,
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: and I don't think we use a lot utilize it
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: a lot. I just remember Emily Maynard season in London.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: I don't remember them going back since, so I'm excited
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: for that. But it doesn't look like we're going to
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: get the many dates there because something is going on,
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: and I'm really intrigued to find out what it is.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Zach is in a suit on zoom FaceTime or something
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: we never I don't think we're seeing I don't know
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: how to rewatch it, but I don't think we like
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: see him with the girls in London and they're all
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: freaking out because it seems like he's not there. So
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: I'm so I'm torn on whether or not he's sick
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: and like he has COVID and needs a quarantine, or
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: whether there's like some family emergency and he had to
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: go back home for it. Yeah, let's go. Hey, we're
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: going to London. You're gonna be stuck in a hotel
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: room and Zach's gonna be on Zoom. It's gonna be awesome,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: but maybe at Zoom dates. It's actually not the worst idea.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: It would be like very realistic for at least what
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: life was a couple of years ago. And there we go.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: We'll be back next week watching it, breaking it down.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: We're intrigued to see this episode until then. I've been Been,
• 51:44
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