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#7 - Facebook page and more about US!!!! · The Chris and Mike Show

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  All right there, and we're live. We're live.
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  Hey. Hello there, ladies and
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  gentlemen. Hello there, ladies and
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  gentlemen. Are you ready to rock?
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  You know who that is? That's a cheap trick.
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  I love Tube Trick. One of my favorite bands of all
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  time. When I was a young little lad.
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  When I was eating a little lad. What is?
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  This number 7. Cheap Trick.
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  This is the Chris and Mike Show. It's episode number whenever.
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  I don't really know. I don't keep track.
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  That's your job, Mike. I think it's episode.
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  I'm just the guy in a tuxedo. I'm just a guy in a tuxedo.
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  Tuxedo Tuxedo episode 7. The Lucky Number 7.
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  Lucky #7. So are you Seinfeld fan?
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  Oh man, like obsessively saying. Yeah, obsessively.
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  OK, so you remember the episode 777?
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  George wanted to name his kids Seven, and then that other
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  people fucking stole his Thunder, man.
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  Yes. Like, what the fuck?
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  It was horrible. Edit Details it's a so we have a
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  Facebook aged out ladies and gentlemen facebook.com/chris and
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  Mike show the Chris and Mike Show Show So we broadcast the
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  United States of America and. Apparently, the world.
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  City the United States of America, right?
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  So I did solve the Japanese viewership listenership
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  question. That was my 22 year old Marine
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  hurrah. Shout out to Jake.
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  Thank you, You listen to it. Awesome.
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  And in in in true fashion of a 22 year old, he's like, yeah, I
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  listen to it. I don't know what you think.
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  Yeah, it's cool. All right, all right.
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  We appreciate you giving us a heads up.
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  He's. Coming home tomorrow, right?
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  He's coming home tomorrow so we're going to just go ahead and
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  throw him on the show. That's awesome.
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  We would love to have Jake on the show.
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  I thought so. He doesn't know that yet.
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  Does not know that yet, but. Well, tell him.
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  I think it's awesome. Singer and guitar player.
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  United States Marine. So what I'm doing right now in
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  our United States Marine, So what I'm doing right now for all
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  you listeners that just wipe myself in the face with my
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  microphone. I am filling out the stuff, the
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  stuff, the nuts and bolts, the the the things that people want
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  tangibles on our Facebook page, which is now has four likes and
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  five followers. Awesome.
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  So it's the company. The company's rock'n'roll.
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  The position is lead singer and guitar player.
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  Because right now you're below my screen.
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  You're not on my screen, you're below it.
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  I'll take a picture so you can see what I'm talking about.
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  I'm trying to get the thumbs up to come up and it's not one
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  moment cooperate. Well, go this way.
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  Go this way. OK, so I'm taking a picture
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  behind the scenes and then I'm going to post it.
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  Guess I'm going to post it Mike all.
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  Right. On the Facebook page.
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  You know why? Because you can't say why.
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  Why? No, you were supposed to say
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  why? I did say why.
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  Let's try it again. I'm going to post it on the
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  Facebook page, Mike, because we have a Facebook page now.
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  It's the Chris and Mike Show. Well, because you you've been.
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  You've been, you've been riding me forever to fucking create a
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  Facebook page. So here it is.
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  Well, we need and I had this. Everyone can gather together,
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  right? Absolutely.
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  My friends have been gathering on my page.
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  The box and go to go to. And your friends have been
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  gathering on your page and now they can all commingle at the
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  Chris and Mike Show on facebook.com.
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  Commingling, commingling. So I'm on The Chris and Mike
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  Show. I'm on the Chris and Mike Show
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  on my phone now. Awesome.
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  So I'm going to oh, what the fuck was that?
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  What? Where's my settings?
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  Let's go to Let's go to settings, shall we, Clarice?
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  You've always. Got to go to settings.
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  I'm in an odd mood today, Mike. I'm just letting you know.
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  That's all right. I'm in an odd, odd mood.
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  We've had many of these conversations.
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  Where? Oh where?
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  There it is, there it is setting dark mode.
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  You know why? Because you have to be in dark
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  mode. I'm always I'll.
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  Tell you why you got to be in dark mode.
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  It's easier on the. Because it looks so much better
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  in dark mode, like they should just they should just get rid of
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  the white mode and. Make it the dark mode.
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  Dark mode should be the standard.
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  Absolutely it does. Dark mode, Dark mode.
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  So here, whoops, OK, I got it. Public.
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  We're going public. So behind the scenes, our first
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  behind the scenes picture photo. Behind the scenes photo.
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  So I don't want to call to action buttons.
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  Stupid thing. City, town.
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  It's not going to give us what, what's what's.
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  Let's call it Pontiac, MI. Oh no, you don't live in
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  Michigan. You live in Illinois.
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  I do that all the time. I'd rather be based on.
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  Some more guys, yeah. But you know, roots, man, Roots
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  increase your reach. I don't want to boost that.
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  Not now. I'm waiting for you.
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  I'm waiting for you to find the Easter egg.
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  Sorry the. The Easter.
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  Egg waiting for you to find the Easter Egg.
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  Oh, guitar guy. Guitar guy.
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  I see that that TRGUY. That's one.
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  There's another big one that you haven't commented on yet, and
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  someday you will. Is it the the well, you're kind
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  of blurry now, you know, because of the stuff.
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  Is it the Is it the eagle shirt? The eagle?
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  No, I'll know when you've went don't tell.
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  Don't tell me, OK. OK.
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  I will give a shout out to my buddy Keith because I told him
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  about my Internet woes and after I got it fixed he said I'll be
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  curious to hear if that delay clears up or not so to let Keith
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  know. It actually cleared up quite a
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  bit, so it makes it a lot easier to converse when he doesn't have
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  to wait 6 seconds to hear what I say.
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  Yes, it does, because that was actually right when you said it,
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  it ended. That's all.
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  So we played with bands. Marshall Tucker Band.
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  Tony McAlpine? Who else?
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  Well, I put that list. Hold on a second.
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  OK, because I'm I'm filling out our our description, you know.
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  Every time I get asked this question, I totally draw a
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  blank. I was with two friends of mine
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  on a road trip and the guy's wife asked me, So what big bands
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  did you open up for? And I said the Marshall Tucker
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  Band because that was the first band we opened up for and that
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  was it. I was like go to the Spotify
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  page because I wrote a nice little bio there, so.
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  I got Marshall Tucker, man, trying to make Alkaline Enough's
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  enough sacred. Reich sacred Reich Sevendust.
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  That just blows my mind. We played with Sevendust, the
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  shit that I don't. Remember man at The Big Fish Pub
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  in Tempe, AZ? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Yeah. Before anybody even knew who
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  they were, they had one song that KUPD was playing in
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  rotation because they knew somebody that worked at KUPD and
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  they knew the guy that owned the Big Fish Pub.
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  So that's how they got the gig there, and they were way too
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  good for that small place. Yeah, we kicked their ass.
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  I'm sure we. Did we stole the show?
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  I'm sure we. Always stole the show.
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  I will admit we always stole the show and anybody that knows me
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  knows I don't brag much. So we did go up there to kick
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  ass and take no prisoners. So that's I thought that was the
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  objective. Right.
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  I'm here to chew bubble gum and kick some ass, and I'm all out
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  of bubble gum, man. Rowdy, Roddy.
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  Piper. Absolutely.
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  So, so, yeah, so I, I did some details, I did some details,
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  right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  I don't do hours price. We don't have a price range.
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  We're cheap. Yeah, we're not going to charge
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  for this. Diversity Diversity info.
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  What diversity info? We would however like to qualify
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  for advertisement so the more clicks and likes and shares and.
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  I'm going to, I'm going to, yeah, I'm going to figure that
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  part of it out for sure. Price range is what could say,
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  moderate. We don't want to sell ourselves
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  short. Our Austria listener has not
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  come out of the woodwork yet. They must be shy.
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  Or maybe they're sharing with their friends.
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  And to that I say kudos. But if you're the one person
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  that's listening to all these shows and you would like to come
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  on and tell us how you found us and how you have reacted to the
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  show, Positive, negative, whatever, we'd love to have you
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  on. I just drop a comment on the
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  actual Spotify with your Facebook something.
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  Go to our Facebook page. Leave us a message how to get.
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  Our Facebook page which is. The Chris and Mike Show.
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  Chris and Mike Show on Facebook, Don't You know?
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  So Michael J Michaels, I, I, I, I stumbled on.
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  Stumbled upon YouTube the other day.
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  Oh, happy anniversary, Lucy. Oh, they would have celebrated
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  37th anniversary. Oh, I think he died or
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  something. Yeah.
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  Rest in peace. Oh, wait, maybe not.
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  I don't know. Lucy's cool.
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  Lucy's a a a friend that I met from.
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  This is from Tom, my lender. He wants me to connect with this
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  guy Tom. I'm currently doing a podcast.
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  I cannot connect with anybody at the moment.
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  But hi Tom, see Tom shout out I just.
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  Told that to Tom right there. Hopefully, Tom will become a
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  listener. Tom should be a listener, you
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  know? If he's not, what the?
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  You're missing out, man. They are missing out.
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  Where's the picture I posted on our page?
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  Man, I posted the behind the scenes photo.
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  Where'd it go? Where'd it go?
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  Did I post on my regular page? Because that would be stupid.
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  Nope, it's not there. Where is it?
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  Where or where is it? You're definitely more Facebook.
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  Saving So anyway I was I anyways I was I was on the YouTube OK
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  and Brian Brian the head who is he from is that from tool Brian.
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  Head. What was the last name again?
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  Or. Whatever just just Brian Head
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  it's it goes by Brian Head was that is that tool.
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  No, he's a corn guitar player. I.
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  Believe corn. Corn.
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  OK, so. Didn't you go see them in
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  concert with us? Probably.
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  Yeah, they opened up for Metallica.
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  Oh, let's see. I thought you and Nikki went to
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  that show. Maybe.
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  What? What are you doing?
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  I don't want to create an event man.
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  Why does it want me to create an event?
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  Stay on page? I don't want to create event.
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  I just wanted to put the picture up.
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  Leave page. Just fucking Facebook sometimes
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  man. Just let me post the picture.
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  Why do you see so difficult so? Ladies and gentlemen.
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  Yeah. You are not the only people out
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  there that have trouble with Facebook, even a trained
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  professional. Well, I just, it's it's
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  frustrated, right, right. Trained professional.
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  I went to face. I went to Facebook school.
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  Well, you know, there's a lot of people out there that are like.
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  Well. At least I'm not the only one
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  that has problems getting shit on Facebook, because I'm one of
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  them myself. Oh, oh, oh, oh, that's what it
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  was. So Brian Head Welch he became,
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  he found, he found Christ, right?
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  Yes, I remember the story. He found the Jesus, the baby,
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  the oh, can you hear that? What?
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  Could you? Could you?
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  I could hear it in my headphones.
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  You couldn't hear it, could you? No, I we tried that last week,
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  it doesn't work. Right.
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  So on YouTube OK if you go to YouTube and and and type in holy
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  name it's or just type in Brian Head Welch but it's it's it's
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  pretty cool I it's it's holy name dash Fall on your knees I
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  think the band's name I think his new band's name is Holy Name
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  and and the song is called Fall on Your Knees.
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  It's it's it's pretty cool man. Like it's it's I'm like, you
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  know, I like the vibe of it. Like I can hear it right now,
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  but you can't hear it. And I didn't know enough about
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  my voice not to be super loud, even though I could be really
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  loud because, you know, I'm listening to the song and it's
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  like rocking, man. And but it's Oh yeah.
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  That's a guy who's been in the studio a lot.
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  You have to go so, so all of you listeners go to YouTube and type
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  in Brian Head Welch and or just the name, holy name because I
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  believe that's his new band. But I dig it.
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  It's kind of it's a cool little. It's a cool vibe.
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  With it's a yeah, it's a cool vibe for sure.
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  I didn't know he had a new band I thought he was back with.
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  I didn't either, man it it it suggested it to me.
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  I went on there for something. I found this band, Nikki and I
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  went to Vegas for her birthday. So YouTube, YouTube has this has
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  this thing where they suggest stuff.
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  So the other band that they suggested to me, which I've been
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  listening to today, what was it? Broken.
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  Not Broken Wings. What do we The way I found it
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  ironically enough the way I found this band which is just
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  just a trip down the the the Rabbit hole.
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  I was. I was looking for Alter Bridge.
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  One of my favorite songs from Alter Bridge is is the End is
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  near for the end is here. Well really Broken View podcast.
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  I went to Broken View band, man. That was fucking weird.
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  So there's this. There's this part in that song.
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  The end is here that Tremonti hits this harmonic on his
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  guitar. It's it's on the recorded studio
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  version. It's like 4 minutes, 26 seconds
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  on. It's just it's the fucking
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  coolest thing, man. Like like I like it's.
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  The harmonic last that long? Fuck, yeah.
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  No. No, no, no.
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  That's the point in the song where he hits it.
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  Oh, OK. I got.
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  I was like, wow, that's a that would be like came from
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  Metallica, You know, that's a long harmonic hold.
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  Right, right, right, right. No, it's just it's it's when he
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  hits it. So the so the band that I found
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  and looking for that is a band called The Broken View, which is
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  like they're a rock band, really, really good.
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  Like, so amazed that I've never heard of them.
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  It's just, it's just, it's just fumbling on Facebook or not
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  Facebook on YouTube and finding it.
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  It's their. Their deluxe version of the of
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  the album I got was called On The Mend and the band's called
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  The Broken View, and it was released in 2022.
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  I've been listening to it all day.
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  There's not a bad song on there. You know not and you know me.
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  Like, I'll check them out, man. I'm always looking for new
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  music. I get in my my thing is the
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  lyrics you know and the songs and the substance and that that
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  just I was like holy shit that's that's fucking right on man.
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  They they are for sure you know lighting up so you might you're
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  probably wondering why I'm so bright in here today aren't you
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  Mike you've been thinking wow, Chris is so bright in here
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  today. Squirrel, squirrel, squirrel.
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  So here's another little we're going to do another little,
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  little just candidate. So here, here's half of the
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  studio, because we're doing this in two separate places.
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  One's in Arizona, one is in Pontiac, IL.
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  There's. One the middle of a cornfield
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  on. Screen.
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  Or there's the other thing, the middle of the cornfield, the
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  children of the corn. And I'm totally breaking the
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  faux pas of all you know, performers by turning my back.
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  To the camera. Your microphone is on your
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  chair, brother. I I felt it.
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  I felt the microphone on my chair.
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  Mike. Good looking out, man.
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  I got your back, buddy. Literally because it was on your
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  back. You got my back.
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  I remember when when I used to come up to you on when I used to
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  come up to you on stage and your backwards to me.
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  And then I would just, I would fall backwards and lean into
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  you. You never let me fall.
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  No, like. Ever.
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  We just, we just ended up going back-to-back with the lean and
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  I'd be singing and you'd be jamming on the guitar.
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  You don't let a brother fall down, man you.
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  Never let me fall. I well, thank you for that.
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  Well, thank you for that. We were.
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  We were literally brothers, man. We might not have been blood,
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  but we were definitely brothers. I agree with that.
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  On a On a level that's just fucking Facebook.
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  Unexplainable to most people you know.
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  Different. It takes a, it takes a certain
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  kind of attitude to want to get up there and play in front of
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  people to begin with. So everybody has to be on the
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  same wavelength. I just read, actually.
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  Speaking of that, our. First story, doing this in two
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  separate places. One's in Arizona, one is in
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  Pontiac, IL. What's that one?
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  You're playing through the Where'd you?
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  Go screen. Or there's the other thing.
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  You're playing through the headphones.
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  I was playing this through that. Weird.
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  People are going to be like, what the fuck was this show
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  about, man? Chris was all over the place.
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  I didn't take my medicine today. I'm sure it will be humorous.
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  People like you or, you know, weird little stuff.
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  We got to provide humor for the general public.
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  They're going crazy out there. Daily grind.
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  You know, daily. Grind living in the metal
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  coffins going down the freeway. Let's hear it for the dead
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  presidents ladies and gentlemen who they robbed banks in in
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  Southern California for many, many years until he jumped out
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  of an airplane and some of them died.
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  Roach was shaking and losing his his vision and and and that's
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  when Johnny told him. You're losing all your blood,
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  Roach. You're going to be dead soon.
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  Name the movie. Actually, I I messed that line
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  up. That's because all the blood is
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  rushing from your body, Roach. You're going to be dead soon.
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  You got me, man. I should know.
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  Really, Johnny Utah? Oh, maybe you really got me.
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  Point break, man. Oh yeah, point.
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  Break, Point, Break. I was like Johnny Utah.
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  Why is that name so? Clean after Brody jumps out.
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  100% I'm with you now. And and and.
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  I was thinking the I was thinking you were saying your
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  name of the movie was Johnny Utah.
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  Nope. Nope.
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  Nope. Nope, Nope, Nope.
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  We are now up to 13 followers. Wow.
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  Four likes, only four likes with a 13 followers.
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  We need to get those other followers to like us.
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  What is the difference? I don't understand more.
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  A follower is you're following us.
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  Like like I invited people to come follow us and they're now
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  following us, so they clicked on it.
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  So when something pop populates, when we do something clever or
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  not so clever it will populate to the world and people will see
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  that that oh we got to we got to just sparse this.
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  People will see that something new popped up.
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  So squirrel one of my friends and legit friend on the Facebook
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  land. This is this is this is bullshit
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  ladies and gentlemen. OK so stop buying into this
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  nonsense. Hello.
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  It's official. Signed at 12:53.
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  It even came on TV. Don't forget the new Facebook
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  rule starts tomorrow. A AKAKA new name Meta.
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  Hello boys and girls, we've been named.
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  Facebook's been named Meta for like over a year now.
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  Long time they're going to use your photos.
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  You think you post something. It's public.
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  If you don't want your photos shared and copied and downloaded
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  and screenshot, put them on the. Internet.
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  Don't share them right. Mango.
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  This person is not giving right? This person is giving Facebook
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  not giving Facebook any permission, blah blah blah blah
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  blah blah blah. So let me explain to you, boys
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  and girls that don't know, if you're meta verified, you have
• 21:45
  less chances of of being hacked. OK, so my my main page is meta
• 21:50
  verified. My Instagram page is meta
• 21:51
  verified. Why?
• 21:53
  Because I don't want to get hacked anymore.
• 21:55
  Because once you're meta verified, you have this little
• 21:58
  well, that's YouTube. I'm sorry, once you I was going
• 22:01
  to my main page once you once you get meta verified, which is
• 22:04
  like 12 bucks a month, but it's worth it because you can't get
• 22:07
  hacked. You have this little blue dot
• 22:09
  next to your name. So the only way Facebook will
• 22:13
  charge you anything at all, the only way is if you meta verify.
• 22:19
  If you don't meta verify, it's free.
• 22:22
  Correct. So you, you, you choose to be
• 22:24
  verified, so you're less likely to be hacked because they have
• 22:28
  your driver's license, they have your face, they completely lock
• 22:33
  in and make sure that it's you and you alone that's that's on
• 22:36
  your page. When they try to get hacked,
• 22:38
  they thwart it, thwart it. That's the benefit of being
• 22:43
  verified. Now if you're not verified, it's
• 22:46
  fair game. And the reason why I know this
• 22:48
  is Instagram a few years ago got hacked.
• 22:53
  And in doing so I was able to save my personal Instagram
• 22:56
  because I had my mug on it and so I do the facial recognition
• 23:00
  and I was cool. The catch is I had caricatures
• 23:04
  kind of like our logo on the Chris and Mike Show on Facebook.
• 23:08
  Love it. And my character of of of Dean
• 23:12
  and I on the Good News Arizona account couldn't be recognized
• 23:15
  as real. So therefore I have.
• 23:18
  I've lost control of the Good News Arizona on Instagram and
• 23:21
  and unfortunately never been able to get back.
• 23:24
  So kids you don't want to get fucked with.
• 23:28
  Verify. You want to get fucked with.
• 23:30
  Don't verify. That's been a public service
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  announcement by your friends. Truly Chris and Chris Dunham
• 23:34
  from The Chris and Mike Show, AKA Mike's Down and I'm up here
• 23:37
  and you know All rights, reserved, blah blah blah blah
• 23:39
  blah blah blah blah blah. That might be our first public
• 23:43
  service announcement slash advertisement.
• 23:45
  Our first plug. Our first plug.
• 23:48
  Our first shameless plug. It's a shameless plug.
• 23:53
  It's a shameless book. Nobody's giving us a nickel yet.
• 23:56
  We've laid out hundreds of dollars.
• 24:02
  Hundreds of dollars. Dollars.
• 24:06
  So my buddy Todd, you remember Todd, Big Todd, Todd Smith?
• 24:08
  We talked about him. They came to the show.
• 24:10
  You know he's come. Yeah, Nemesis.
• 24:14
  So he's in the hospital. He had a a hernia removed, so he
• 24:18
  just texted me. He's got discharged now an hour
• 24:21
  and a half ago. He laid down to sleep and had a
• 24:23
  sudden onset of chest tightness, shortness of breath.
• 24:26
  Oh no, he's breaking a squeaking sound.
• 24:30
  He called the nurse. Good move, she.
• 24:33
  Came with three nurses and a doctor.
• 24:34
  His O TS oxygen stats dropped. Oh no.
• 24:39
  Waiting for lab results. Determine what's up.
• 24:44
  They're keeping him in his room. You know?
• 24:45
  Give him IDIV and you know it. It freaked out.
• 24:49
  So I I I said I said a bad word, but I won't.
• 24:52
  I said a bad phrase, but I'm not going to say it on.
• 24:55
  It's a little extreme. I'll show you right right there.
• 24:58
  That's what I said to him in my text back.
• 25:01
  I can't see that far 'cause I don't have my glasses on.
• 25:06
  Yeah, well, that's OK, you know, It's the it's the thought that
• 25:09
  counts. So anyway, when I have a big
• 25:10
  shout out for my buddy Todd and and everybody have a little
• 25:13
  little baby Jesus love prayer, you know, just, you know,
• 25:16
  'cause, you know, I've known him since I was 15.
• 25:21
  So it's kind of like one of those lifelong friends, you
• 25:24
  know? I always say that I'm sending
• 25:26
  good energy. That, you know, out in the
• 25:27
  universe, good energy gets. To them, Yeah, absolutely.
• 25:30
  Yeah, yeah. Positive vibes.
• 25:33
  Private vibes, man. Absolutely positive vibes.
• 25:35
  Positive vibes, I said. Private positive vibes.
• 25:38
  Private positive vibes to time. To Todd, AKA Jake Blues, the
• 25:44
  Blues Brothers. Because I had a blue car in high
• 25:46
  school and I used to pick him up and and he was this big
• 25:50
  offensive lineman and and I'm just you.
• 25:52
  Know he's a big dude. I.
• 25:54
  Don't know, maybe 5-10 hundred 30 lbs Soaking wet.
• 25:59
  So that was the yin and Yang of Jake and Elwood Blues from
• 26:01
  Saturday Live. Yes.
• 26:04
  So there you go. That's how it all started.
• 26:06
  My first actual live performance ever, aside from 4th grade being
• 26:09
  in in, in. I don't know what the fuck the
• 26:11
  show was called, but I would played a guy named John Smith.
• 26:16
  But after that 'cause you oh shit, you don't remember when
• 26:18
  you're in 4th grade, but Todd and I did mock rock, you know,
• 26:23
  spring break, senior year. We did that.
• 26:25
  Was awesome. Everybody needs somebody to love
• 26:28
  the Blues. The Blues Brothers.
• 26:29
  He has it too. On VCR video I can Yeah, I can
• 26:33
  still. I can still remember.
• 26:35
  Hello there. No, that was a cheap trick.
• 26:37
  We're so glad to see so many of you lovely people here tonight.
• 26:39
  We especially like to welcome all the representatives, if they
• 26:41
  don't always of Illinois law enforcement community who have
• 26:43
  chosen to join us here in the Hotel Palace ballroom.
• 26:45
  At this time, we do sincerely hope you all enjoy the show.
• 26:47
  And Please remember people and more.
• 26:49
  No matter what you do, live, strive and survive, there are
• 26:51
  still some things that make us all the same.
• 26:53
  You, me, them, everybody, everybody, everybody home.
• 27:00
  Need somebody home. Everybody need somebody love
• 27:07
  someone to love, someone to love.
• 27:09
  Some of the kids, some of the kids, you know, it's just that
• 27:13
  kind of thing, man. That was awesome, dude.
• 27:17
  Thank you. I try, I try, I try, I try.
• 27:20
  Just gave you a shout out. I don't.
• 27:24
  I can't figure out how you can remember all those lyrics.
• 27:28
  Probably the same way that people ask me how I can remember
• 27:32
  all the music that I know. I don't know.
• 27:35
  It just it just happened. Yeah, 'cause I remember
• 27:37
  learning. I remember learning that in Mr.
• 27:41
  Plummer's biology class, where I was his teacher's assistant and
• 27:45
  so I didn't do shit. And you know, Mr. Plummer's
• 27:48
  offended on Facebook, so we'll get him to follow us.
• 27:50
  But I legit was in in my little backroom and I just, I was
• 27:55
  reading the lyrics and and melody in my head and kind of
• 28:00
  singing under my breath, you know?
• 28:01
  And then sure, shit, you know, we went out there and rocked it
• 28:04
  out, man. Rocked it out.
• 28:09
  So I guess that's a good segue to a question that I get.
• 28:14
  I guess I got What made you want to be a performer or slash be in
• 28:18
  a band? Or did you want to do one more
• 28:21
  than the other? Did you want to be an actor, a
• 28:23
  stage actor, a singer in a rock band?
• 28:26
  What was your actual first dream?
• 28:32
  I'm going to say that I, I, I, as far back as I can remember, I
• 28:40
  wanted to be a writer. So when I went to college,
• 28:48
  right, when I went to college and went and was in journalism,
• 28:53
  I won an award, you know, and I'm like, oh, I got a
• 28:55
  scholarship or an internship, not a scholarship.
• 28:59
  And then I worked at the Mesa Tribune and realized, well, it's
• 29:04
  working my ass off for 20 bucks, Socks.
• 29:07
  So, you know, I'm like, OK, I'm like OK, I'm not going to be,
• 29:14
  I'm not going to be a writer anymore.
• 29:16
  You know, I going to do the next best thing, right.
• 29:18
  The next high earning grossing income that you can do is is
• 29:22
  acting, you know, because nobody wants to be an actor you know,
• 29:27
  horrible professional. So yeah, right.
• 29:31
  So I I took that leap, that direction, and and you know,
• 29:39
  then somewhere along the lines I realized that acting and writing
• 29:47
  all can kind of come together with music.
• 29:50
  Not that I was faking anything ever on stage, but it's it's the
• 29:55
  concept that if regardless of the day you're having, at least
• 29:59
  with me, regardless of the day I was having, the mood, whatever.
• 30:02
  Good day, good day, bad day, shit day, horrible day,
• 30:05
  wonderful day. As soon as I stepped into the
• 30:09
  venue, wherever we were going to play, the mood just switched.
• 30:13
  It was like a light switch that was automatic, you know?
• 30:16
  And then the reason why I've never really been heavy in the
• 30:20
  covers is because I can't own those those words.
• 30:24
  I can't own the emotion that was that was created from writing
• 30:29
  those songs, right? I agree with you.
• 30:32
  So even though I love lots and lots, right?
• 30:37
  Yeah. And that was, that's the thing.
• 30:38
  So even from like vision, I've talked about vision a couple
• 30:42
  times and and the story behind Vision was I kept having these
• 30:45
  recurring dreams in my early 20s that that were were scenes of
• 30:52
  death for lack of better explanation.
• 30:54
  So I would see myself die. One was it was I don't remember
• 30:58
  the the, the order of it anymore.
• 31:01
  I'd have to I got to find the box with all the lyrics in it
• 31:03
  from Nemesis days. But so 111 dream in this, in the
• 31:09
  song vision was I was sitting in a pool, like outside, like
• 31:12
  nothing. There's nothing on the horizon.
• 31:14
  You're in this massive open field and there's just a
• 31:17
  rectangular swimming pool. And I'm sitting on the cool deck
• 31:20
  in a chair. And as I look down at the pool,
• 31:22
  this, this body just starts approaching, you know, face down
• 31:26
  the steps. So I I get off my chair and walk
• 31:29
  down and and roll the body over and realize holy shit, that's me
• 31:32
  wake. Up.
• 31:34
  Until back then I was heavily into lucid dreaming.
• 31:37
  A friend of mine Eddie, Eddie Ensenius.
• 31:39
  He was a guitarist. I had in in Disturbed.
• 31:42
  No bass player. I'm sorry.
• 31:43
  Bass player. Disturbed.
• 31:44
  He's he's gone off to do. He's really cool guy.
• 31:46
  He does all these weird fun things with.
• 31:48
  He's an extra movies he's been in all the zombie lands and
• 31:51
  walking death films or shows and stuff.
• 31:53
  That's an extra but so he gave me, given me this book about
• 31:57
  lucid dreaming for my birthday one year.
• 31:59
  So that kind of opened up that part of my mind.
• 32:01
  Like this is really cool. Like you can go into your dreams
• 32:04
  and control them and and manipulate them and and kind of
• 32:07
  navigate your way in and out, you know, and kind of alter
• 32:12
  them. And I, you know, people people
• 32:14
  have done this for years. So.
• 32:19
  Right. So the vision started with that,
• 32:23
  that the, again, I don't know the order, but there was a
• 32:25
  swimming pool. There's another one where I was
• 32:31
  walking down down like a city street or something, and and I
• 32:34
  turned my face and looked into this dark alley and there's
• 32:38
  someone just being pummeled in the alley.
• 32:40
  So I ran into the alley and and it was me, you know, basically
• 32:43
  being beaten to death. So woke up, you know.
• 32:47
  So then I would continue to tell myself when I'd go to sleep at
• 32:49
  night, OK. Dream dream this part and then
• 32:52
  and then dream that part and then dream that part to where I
• 32:54
  eventually there was four or five parts of this dream
• 32:59
  chronological you know an alley whatever the fuck I'm trying to
• 33:02
  find what word it is. The last the last segment in it
• 33:06
  was I was walking. Yeah, chronological last segment
• 33:11
  of this dream. When I finally kind of became at
• 33:14
  peace with it, I was walking. I would, I would walk past the
• 33:20
  death, like when I pulled when I rolled the pool, the guy over in
• 33:22
  the pool, instead of waking up, I turned around and walked away.
• 33:25
  And as I walked away, I kind of faded out from that, this
• 33:28
  swimming pool thing to the next dream sequence and then to the
• 33:31
  next dream sequence to the final last dream sequence as I was
• 33:35
  walking past. Just like an endless row of
• 33:39
  newspaper stands, you know? And as I looked left down at
• 33:45
  them, all the dates were the same.
• 33:47
  March 4th, 2000, which was my 30th birthday.
• 33:52
  So it it just it that was the whole premise like I'm going to
• 33:56
  die when I'm 30. So I had that mindset from the
• 33:59
  time I was early 20s, so I was going to do everything that I
• 34:05
  that I I I wanted to do up until that point in my life because,
• 34:10
  you know, I had all these dreams that said I was going to die.
• 34:14
  So that's kind of how being in a band took.
• 34:19
  It took the things that I loved writing and acting and put them
• 34:22
  together because I could still write, I could still somewhat
• 34:25
  act, because when I wrote the lyrics to the songs, like
• 34:28
  Vision, I felt that as I sang it every night, regardless if it
• 34:31
  was the first time or a thousandth time, I sang it.
• 34:33
  I felt it. I felt the emotion.
• 34:35
  I felt the connection to it. So you know one of the reasons I
• 34:38
  love right Well thank you. So one of the reasons I love
• 34:41
  Jeff Tate in in the you know Queensrÿche before he turned
• 34:43
  into an asshole was he owned like Operation of Mindcrime.
• 34:47
  He played that role. He played Mickey and he just it
• 34:50
  was it was obvious he was into and he was transparent and he
• 34:53
  was just like spot on with the character that he wrote an
• 34:57
  entire album around of. So it to me enabled me to to use
• 35:03
  the entire creative side of my brain in an hour, you know, an
• 35:08
  hour and a half hour long. We we used to play, you know,
• 35:10
  varying shows. But I could, I could do that and
• 35:14
  I could expel that energy. And so the darkness that was in
• 35:17
  me was was purged, you know, So I didn't, I didn't damage my
• 35:22
  psyche over the years like a lot of people do when they don't
• 35:24
  have an outlet. So the short version of the long
• 35:27
  winded answer No. That's why we're here.
• 35:31
  We got all the time in the world, buddy.
• 35:32
  This is our show. Yeah is.
• 35:34
  Yeah, Yeah. Is the is the is the writer of
• 35:37
  me. I always loved writing, and I
• 35:40
  still do. And then the acting.
• 35:44
  I always loved acting. Like when I was a kid, I was
• 35:46
  sick all the time. So I was always home alone.
• 35:48
  And I can remember pretending I've been a cowboy.
• 35:50
  You know, riding the side of a chair.
• 35:52
  We had that and watching. We've had these conversations.
• 35:54
  Black and white. Yeah.
• 35:56
  Yeah, yeah. So it's just it's it's just that
• 36:01
  thing. It's like, I just, I think
• 36:03
  that's why I transitioned so well in the real estate because
• 36:06
  there's still that element of of marketing and being in front of
• 36:10
  cameras with videos that I do and and being in front of people
• 36:12
  and talking. And you know, I don't.
• 36:15
  It's never just boring. And it's never the same, right?
• 36:21
  Which is, you know, cool. And it's really not that much
• 36:24
  different than being a front man where you had to engage with the
• 36:27
  audience and they were, and they were engaged with you or you
• 36:35
  were the one that was going to train wreck the show.
• 36:37
  Because if you couldn't command those people and grab their
• 36:40
  attention something one way or another, the three of us weren't
• 36:45
  going to do it because that wasn't our gig, right?
• 36:48
  You know, so I wouldn't have transitioned well into dealing
• 36:51
  with the general public because, you know, I wasn't used to
• 36:54
  talking. I think I make the joke all the
• 36:57
  time. When they asked how many
• 36:59
  microphones we needed, all you guys would be like 2.
• 37:03
  What if I want to say something, man, you know?
• 37:06
  Yep. Mike's not saying.
• 37:08
  Yep. Yeah, Yep, You know, But yeah,
• 37:12
  but that's the that's, you know. So.
• 37:15
  Before that sing, it was me and Rick that sing.
• 37:18
  Right, I did. I did cat scratch fever to give
• 37:20
  you a break once in a while. That was the only.
• 37:22
  Song. Oh, that's right.
• 37:23
  That's right. I remember that.
• 37:24
  Yep. Yeah.
• 37:26
  So before I forget, I've looked at that photo before.
• 37:31
  We got the awesome new logo, which is totally awesome.
• 37:34
  I love it. Yeah, that might be the very
• 37:40
  first show we ever played at the Mason jar.
• 37:42
  Because looking in the background, that was my PV
• 37:46
  amplifier that I had in the trunk of my car when I drove
• 37:50
  1800 miles from my parents driveway to Metro Village
• 37:54
  Apartments and I didn't play which.
• 37:58
  Photo. The one of you and I on stage at
• 38:01
  The Jar, I think that's the very first time we played at The Jar.
• 38:06
  That T-shirt I'm wearing was from a band out of Chicago
• 38:09
  called Laceration, and I still owe the dude 12 bucks for that
• 38:14
  shirt and I apologize. Yeah, yeah.
• 38:19
  So put that up on the, on the, on the page, on the Kristen Mike
• 38:24
  show, just post it like a, you know anything.
• 38:29
  Yeah, because anything we kind of talk about, we have the, we
• 38:31
  have a platform now to post that stuff and.
• 38:35
  You know, and I will take advantage.
• 38:36
  Of that, that's what it is. And that's that's what it is,
• 38:40
  you know? And that's The Chris and Mike
• 38:43
  Show on Facebook. On Facebook.
• 38:47
  Yes, please do that. Follow us.
• 38:50
  That's that's what they need to do, right.
• 38:52
  They need to follow us, not just like.
• 38:56
  Follow us. Yeah, become a right.
• 38:59
  Become our friends. Well, you can like and follow
• 39:01
  us. You can do both.
• 39:02
  We we want to be liked. We want to be followed.
• 39:05
  I enjoy being liked and followed, just don't follow me
• 39:08
  home if you could help it. Yeah, not on a stalker level,
• 39:13
  you know. Don't do that.
• 39:15
  You can follow me home, I know you, but not just the general
• 39:18
  public. Right.
• 39:22
  You know, you and I'll sit down and just have another
• 39:24
  conversation, though. Can't just do that with anybody.
• 39:28
  Yeah. And.
• 39:30
  You can't. Another general question that
• 39:32
  has been, yeah, back to the picture.
• 39:37
  So anyway, I didn't play too many gigs with that picture, but
• 39:41
  your mic stand is in that same picture.
• 39:45
  You'll probably have to lighten it up.
• 39:47
  You'll see it right away. But if somebody will save the
• 39:50
  photo to their desktop or whatever, I don't care.
• 39:53
  I'm not one of those freaks that says don't use our stuff.
• 39:57
  Pull it down to your desktop and lighten it up and you'll see
• 39:59
  what that mic stand that we talked about in an earlier
• 40:02
  podcast looks like. I noticed both those things that
• 40:06
  just caught my attention the other day.
• 40:11
  I love that PVM. I remember seeing that you have
• 40:13
  to send. It to me again, yeah.
• 40:16
  I remember that, yeah. I'll send it to you I.
• 40:18
  Don't know if I have it or not. Hold on, ladies and gentlemen,
• 40:21
  I'm going to. Text.
• 40:22
  Hell, you know. Yeah.
• 40:24
  Or you put it on the page. Are you on?
• 40:25
  Are you on your phone? You can put it on the Facebook
• 40:27
  page. OK.
• 40:30
  You can put it on the Chris and Mike show.
• 40:33
  I'll do that right now. You just you're posting on it
• 40:35
  just like a regular, a regular, a regular page.
• 40:37
  You know, you just you just throw it out there as a as a
• 40:40
  picture. So this would be probably 1994
• 40:45
  or five. I'm guessing probably 5 because
• 40:50
  we played a bunch of gigs before we played at the Jar.
• 40:55
  That was the elite place I. Like I like playing.
• 40:58
  I yeah, yeah. Oh yeah.
• 41:00
  I I loved playing at the Mason Jar man.
• 41:02
  We'll just we talked about this before the the the photos on the
• 41:05
  wall. Like like Franco had every
• 41:08
  single band that ever played their pictures on the wall.
• 41:13
  I don't know if our if our picture was ever on the wall.
• 41:14
  I don't know if there was space by then, but it was cool.
• 41:17
  To we were up there. Holy shit, I'm standing.
• 41:19
  Well, Eddie, yeah. OK, good.
• 41:22
  I was. I was like, holy shit, I'm
• 41:23
  standing where Eddie Vedder stood and where, you know, Brett
• 41:26
  Michael stood and where Scott Stapp stood and.
• 41:28
  Maynard from Tool. You know, just Kurt Cobain.
• 41:31
  Yeah, just, I mean, you know, right.
• 41:34
  Stone Temple Pilots Flotsam and Jetsam Sacred Reich.
• 41:37
  Right. Yeah, Jason Newstead played tons
• 41:40
  of shows. Amount of of Yeah.
• 41:43
  Newstead was Jason Rainey's roommate before he got heat.
• 41:50
  Jason Rainey was there when you said got the call to be in
• 41:52
  Metallica, He told Scott. And I, I think he told all of us
• 41:55
  that story that night. Yeah.
• 41:58
  But yeah, that that was totally cool.
• 41:59
  He's like, yeah, I was sitting there.
• 42:01
  That's cool. You know?
• 42:02
  He was on the couch, the phone rang and he said, hey man, you
• 42:05
  got the gig. Yeah, that's awesome.
• 42:10
  So yeah, there he. Posted on the Facebook page on
• 42:12
  The Christian Mic. I do believe I did.
• 42:16
  Did did you drop it on the Christian mic?
• 42:18
  OK, I don't see it. Let me check.
• 42:26
  I I don't see it. For some reason Chris Dunham
• 42:29
  likes our short our first story. Not me, Chris Dunham I have.
• 42:33
  I went online one day and found all the Chris Dunham's I could
• 42:35
  find and sent friend request to them.
• 42:39
  So I have all these Chris Dunham.
• 42:40
  I have these friends named Chris Dunham, which is awesome because
• 42:43
  when they post something, I'll be like, hey me, what's going
• 42:45
  on? You know, wedding anniversary
• 42:47
  shit. Oh yeah, our marriage has been
• 42:49
  great, you know, no complaints from me.
• 42:51
  And every now and then the wives will be like, wait, what?
• 42:54
  What, What? You know, it's funny.
• 42:57
  And then I'll have people tag the wrong Chris Dunham, because
• 43:00
  you know the wrong Chris Dunham. I shared it to my own page and
• 43:05
  they. Tagged me.
• 43:05
  It's kind of funny. So now how do I share it on our
• 43:11
  page? You just go you just you go to
• 43:14
  the page right and you have you have where it says what's on
• 43:18
  your mind live video, photo, video or real and you're just
• 43:22
  going to click photo and add photo and then just you know say
• 43:27
  circa 1994 at the Mason jar. I think that would be would be
• 43:33
  cool. So what's weird on today's show
• 43:42
  as I don't see a clock, usually there's a clock.
• 43:46
  Oh, you don't have 1:00 today? Uploading and recording.
• 43:49
  I don't have a clock today. Weird, weird wild stuff.
• 43:57
  I have to lean in to see mine, but it looks like there's a
• 43:59
  four, there's a four. OK, why did you did you
• 44:06
  accomplish the the task at hand? Let me see photo.
• 44:13
  It's still not there. No, but a bunch of people are
• 44:15
  liking my photo on my page hold. On, it's on your page, It's on
• 44:21
  the Michael's page. Yeah, why don't you grab it and
• 44:23
  put it on there? Because you seem to be more
• 44:25
  technically savvy than yours truly.
• 44:28
  I am not a Facebooker, ladies and gentlemen, so don't think
• 44:31
  that I'm being a snob or anything.
• 44:33
  I will do the best I can with the legions of fans that we hope
• 44:36
  will crash our Facebook page. That's why I've begged him to do
• 44:42
  it, because he has a nice group of followers.
• 44:45
  He's used to doing all this kind of stuff.
• 44:50
  Legion of fans. I did all the behind the scenes,
• 44:54
  getting it to the Internet, getting us a studio set up,
• 44:59
  finding the right equipment. That was my job.
• 45:02
  Why? Not you did.
• 45:07
  And you did a good job too, because now we have all the same
• 45:09
  equipment. Friends, friends.
• 45:10
  Where's my friends at, man? You sound fantastic now that
• 45:14
  you're closer to the microphone. You know, I I tried to sound
• 45:18
  fantastic. Oh, there it is.
• 45:20
  You put that there. OK, now I know what you're
• 45:22
  talking about. Now I know what you're talking
• 45:24
  about. OK, now I That is the mic stand.
• 45:26
  Fucking a dude. See.
• 45:28
  Right on. Told you Stuck out like a sore
• 45:31
  thumb. I've only looked at that photo
• 45:32
  about 9000 times in my life. Stuck out like a sore thumb.
• 45:39
  I'll put that. I will put that on our page
• 45:41
  right now. The Kristen Mike Show.
• 45:43
  There you go, buddy. So boys and girls, this is what
• 45:48
  we were talking about. Come on.
• 45:51
  Now I'm going to have to go to my page and say I did not mean
• 45:54
  to post the same photo you've seen 500 times since we started
• 45:57
  the podcast. It was supposed to go on.
• 46:00
  Whatever, it's OK. Everybody started liking it, so
• 46:03
  thank you very much. Appreciate it.
• 46:07
  I missed those days. On stage at the Mason.
• 46:12
  Yep, Yep, I'm typing right now. That's why I'm sly and silent.
• 46:25
  Yeah, so once again, if you are a fascinating Austria listener,
• 46:29
  go to the Chris and Mike Show on Facebook and drop us a line.
• 46:35
  You don't have to come on the podcast, just say, hey, I think
• 46:38
  it's totally cool that you found us and that you keep listening.
• 46:40
  So we'd love to give you a shout out or something.
• 46:44
  You're more than welcome on the podcast unless you're shy.
• 46:47
  I was shy too, but here I am. Right.
• 46:53
  I was very unsure if I was going to be able to do this.
• 46:55
  I just wanted to do it so you dive in, you know, sink or swim.
• 47:03
  You know what doesn't kill you? Scares the fuck out of you.
• 47:07
  Right. And I don't like you.
• 47:09
  I scared I changed it. I changed it up.
• 47:11
  Here we are. I changed it up.
• 47:17
  So I'm hoping, hoping I tag the right Neil Sands, because Neil
• 47:22
  Sands is the one that made it. Which small world?
• 47:27
  Neil's. Oh, it didn't let me.
• 47:28
  It didn't let me tag him. We played at Kevin, We played at
• 47:33
  Your Place in Glendale for years, rehearsed right after.
• 47:38
  After we stopped playing at Scott's Correct And we then.
• 47:49
  Neil was a former drummer of mine from one of the bands I was
• 47:53
  in called Andalusian Dog, and he was an art major at ASU and his
• 48:08
  grandfather owned Sands Chevrolet.
• 48:12
  Which I remember a. Car Dealership So Manistee
• 48:16
  Ranch, right? Manistee Ranch which was 50 1st
• 48:19
  Ave. Northern I believe was was the
• 48:22
  ranch that his family owned is now subdivision.
• 48:25
  Like all sub all ranches turned into subdivisions.
• 48:28
  But the last time I drove by there the house was still
• 48:30
  standing and the community's called Manistee Ranch.
• 48:33
  So I actually played in that house in the basement during the
• 48:37
  time in Andalusian dog which is before Nemesis.
• 48:42
  I believe that was before Nemesis.
• 48:49
  Yeah, it was it was cool. It was a cool place to to jam.
• 48:51
  And it was they had this we had this thing we called the angry
• 48:53
  chair like kid, you not, dude, this.
• 48:55
  It was a imagine, just a wooden chair, right.
• 48:57
  A normal wooden chair. But replace the wood with with,
• 49:01
  with antlers from Elks. So we called it the angry chair
• 49:05
  because the whole thing, when you sat in it, you didn't get
• 49:07
  stabbed at all. But looking at it was like,
• 49:10
  fuck, I'm not going to you know, this is going to like destroy me
• 49:13
  if I get up the wrong way because of all the antlers and
• 49:16
  shit. It was it was badass.
• 49:17
  It was truly coolest chairs ever.
• 49:22
  I'm wearing a Nemesis T-shirt in that picture too.
• 49:25
  Yes, you are. On on on my chest, that says
• 49:29
  nemesis right there. Yeah, that's why I said we
• 49:31
  played a bunch of gigs before we ever played at The Jar.
• 49:35
  We played at The Ballroom, we played at a bunch of places in
• 49:39
  Mesa and Tempe. I think that The Jar was
• 49:44
  probably maybe a year, year and a half before we actually got a
• 49:48
  gig there because I kept going down there and bugging those
• 49:51
  guys. That wasn't the easiest place to
• 49:53
  get a gig at. No, it was it was it was legit
• 49:57
  one. Of those, it was legit.
• 50:02
  I buddied up with Jason and yeah, gave him a demo.
• 50:07
  You know, back then you had to have a cassette demo.
• 50:11
  We weren't even CDs at that point, so he listened to it, he
• 50:17
  liked it, and that's how we got in there, so.
• 50:22
  Yeah, it's kind of a drag. You don't have any of those
• 50:23
  laying around. Well, that would be nice.
• 50:29
  They're laying around somewhere. So, so on Instagram.
• 50:32
  On Instagram, yeah, on Instagram.
• 50:35
  You're not. You're not on Instagram, are
• 50:36
  you? I have a personal Instagram
• 50:38
  page. Yeah, OK.
• 50:41
  So, so Carrie chimed in on one of my Instagram posts.
• 50:51
  Carrie Baez. And so I told her, yeah, so I
• 50:54
  told her we're doing a podcast and you find us in all the all
• 50:57
  the all the places. What is your Instagram page?
• 51:02
  I apparently I'm not friends with you there.
• 51:05
  Chris, Chris. Oh, hold on.
• 51:08
  OK, I thought you were. I'll type it in the chat box,
• 51:13
  chat, it's it's Chris under score, Dunham under score.
• 51:18
  OK, I'm bad about being friends with people that I'm friends
• 51:24
  with in real life, you know? Yeah.
• 51:30
  You know, I tend to like to talk to my actual friends.
• 51:33
  I'm not one of these texters or if I if you hold that kind of
• 51:38
  level of friendship and my heart and soul, I want to hear your
• 51:43
  voice and talk to you. And I'm not into the Too much
• 51:46
  can be misinterpreted when you're texting, you know?
• 51:51
  Yeah. And it's just not as personal.
• 51:53
  I've known you since I was 21 years old.
• 51:56
  Twenty. I might not have even been 21.
• 51:59
  Like, of course I want to talk to you.
• 52:03
  Yeah, right. Yeah.
• 52:05
  So we have, we have 15 followers.
• 52:07
  You need to reach 100 followers to gain access to insights and
• 52:10
  demographic data. 100 Got. To figure out how to add you as
• 52:15
  add we got to get to 100 list followers in order to kind of
• 52:19
  open up some of the really cool plugins and shit.
• 52:23
  But I'm trying to figure out how to add how I add you because I
• 52:27
  know I can add you, as you know, an admin to it.
• 52:34
  If it's not just it's not just you know.
• 52:38
  I just don't know how to do that.
• 52:39
  It's not. It's just not working.
• 52:46
  See. So is there a platform where we
• 52:50
  can we have options to go live. So like right now you're having
• 52:55
  a problem and if people were listening, they may be able to
• 52:58
  chime in and solve your problem that they were watching live.
• 53:01
  I know you don't want to do it on Facebook.
• 53:03
  Is Twitch an option? Right.
• 53:07
  I've never heard. I've heard of Twitch, but I
• 53:08
  don't know what Twitch is. Well, let me do some research.
• 53:12
  I don't know how any see. What I'm doing there?
• 53:15
  See what I'm doing there? I've just heard, man, I don't
• 53:18
  know how it works there used to. Be the only time I heard of it.
• 53:23
  I was building. I was building something.
• 53:25
  No. Go ahead, go ahead.
• 53:29
  No, go ahead. No.
• 53:31
  There used to be a platform called Ustream and I'm I don't
• 53:35
  think it exists anymore. But Twitch is similar to
• 53:39
  Ustream, where you can just live stream your content for free is
• 53:45
  basically all they're doing is just like we're using a studio
• 53:48
  right now that's providing us a platform to do a remote podcast,
• 53:52
  they're providing you with a platform to do a live podcast
• 53:55
  for free. I'll I'll look into how it works
• 53:58
  and if it's worth it. But I think if people knew that
• 54:02
  we were on here Tuesday afternoon, see they don't listen
• 54:07
  to it till Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, the next week we are
• 54:09
  actually this is Tuesday afternoon for everybody that's
• 54:11
  listening if they knew we were doing that.
• 54:15
  It is too late afternoon. They could log on and listen if
• 54:17
  they so chose right? We we just need to find a
• 54:22
  platform that works for us, that will work for everybody else is
• 54:27
  what I'm getting at. Yeah, Settings, Settings, Post
• 54:36
  life event. Go to the page Log on I did
• 54:41
  that. Click Settings at the top of my
• 54:43
  page. I did that.
• 54:47
  So page. Rolls in the left column.
• 54:49
  I don't see page rolls in the left column.
• 54:53
  I just thought of a story that relates to that photo as well.
• 54:56
  If that's the first time that we played at the Mason jar, I
• 55:00
  actually had to track down Franco to get our money at his
• 55:05
  condo. No, that's not surprising.
• 55:12
  For everybody that is listening, that would not know Franco,
• 55:15
  which is everybody. He was about 5 foot three and he
• 55:22
  had kind of crazy long scraggly hair and he was 150 million
• 55:28
  percent Italian and he wore clogs always.
• 55:34
  The dude was just, Oh yeah, the dude was just crazy.
• 55:38
  But come to find out, he was connected and I didn't know
• 55:42
  that. I just knew he owed us $200.
• 55:46
  Yeah, Franco was very connected. So here's 2122 year old little
• 55:52
  Mike pounded on his door and a dude about 66315 answered the
• 55:58
  door. What do you want?
• 56:02
  I said I need to talk to Franco. He owes my band $200.00 and he
• 56:06
  just slammed the door. So I stood there for, I don't
• 56:10
  know, 1520 seconds and I was just getting ready to turn
• 56:12
  around and leave and the door opens again and he says, OK, he
• 56:17
  says he'll see you. So I went in there and he says,
• 56:22
  what band? I said Nemesis, how much do I
• 56:25
  owe you $200? I apologize.
• 56:29
  It'll never happen again. So he gave me the $200.00 and I
• 56:32
  walked out of there and I felt like king shit, you know?
• 56:35
  So we go to play the next gig and I'm telling Maverick this
• 56:39
  story. Bouncer Maverick, you know, and
• 56:43
  his guys got about as big around as half dollars and he's like,
• 56:46
  dude, don't ever go to his house again asking for money.
• 56:50
  He's like, I'm surprised you didn't get the shit kicked out
• 56:53
  of you or get killed. He's like, you know, Franco's
• 56:55
  connected, right? He's like this place is like a
• 56:57
  money laundering operation, which is totally what the Mason.
• 57:04
  General Where Franco lived, man. I asked.
• 57:08
  How did you know where Franco lived?
• 57:09
  I asked Jason Rainey because Jason worked for the Mason Jar.
• 57:13
  He was their permanent, you know, front of House Sound Man.
• 57:16
  Right, right, right, right, right.
• 57:18
  He told me where he lived and I don't.
• 57:22
  That's awesome. Who knows if I told him why?
• 57:25
  You know, I think maybe I just say, hey, do you know where
• 57:26
  Franco lives? And that might have been the
• 57:28
  extent of the conversation. Had I told him I was going down
• 57:31
  there to collect money, he might have advised me otherwise, you
• 57:33
  know. But.
• 57:35
  He was the one that I asked because.
• 57:37
  When I told Maverick the story, he flipped out.
• 57:41
  He was like, dude, don't ever do that again.
• 57:42
  I can't believe you didn't get the shit kicked out of your end.
• 57:45
  Up in a mine shaft out in the middle of the desert, you know?
• 57:49
  That's all I asked. Nicely so.
• 57:51
  Squirrel. Yeah, squirrel, squirrel moment.
• 57:57
  When you go to your When you go back to Facebook, you know how
• 57:59
  you get notifications and that little thing on the bottom?
• 58:02
  Little notification thing like a bell.
• 58:04
  You're going to have an invitation to help manage said
• 58:10
  page. I will help you the best I can
• 58:12
  brother. Facebook.
• 58:13
  Page of the. Chris Night Show.
• 58:16
  Well, it's just, it's you can put stuff on reels, you can put
• 58:19
  stuff on stories. Yeah, absolutely.
• 58:21
  Yeah, you can do all kinds of fun.
• 58:23
  Stuff So. So now you know for everybody
• 58:25
  that. Is a subscriber and a weekly
• 58:29
  listener. I will be putting up little
• 58:34
  previews Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
• 58:38
  Somewhere in there, I'll drop little Easter eggs I like to
• 58:40
  call and you'll get to see previews of the upcoming episode
• 58:44
  instead of having having to wait Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
• 58:47
  Saturday, Sunday. I know it's a pain.
• 58:49
  It's a pain for me too. I know that's good.
• 58:59
  So since we have 16 followers, but it won't let me look at all
• 59:02
  the followers, which is weird. Well, oh, you know, we'll have
• 59:13
  to play with it. We'll just watch it grow.
• 59:16
  Yes, we are starting a community.
• 59:18
  Of wonderful, positive, like minded individuals who like to
• 59:23
  have a good time. Everybody needs to get along.
• 59:27
  We're trying to lead. By example, you don't see us.
• 59:29
  Fighting and arguing. There's no need for all that.
• 59:31
  If you disagree with us, that's fine.
• 59:33
  People disagree with me all the time.
• 59:35
  I'm 100% used to that because I do not think like everybody else
• 59:39
  and I understand that and I try and respect that of people.
• 59:42
  So we're we're open to opinions. That's why we're here.
• 59:46
  It'll give us other things to talk about.
• 59:48
  So we are. Agreed.
• 59:51
  Yeah, life's too short to be a Dick.
• 59:54
  Yeah, well, and once again, if you ever.
• 59:57
  Had to sit in a room with four big egos who are trying to put a
• 1:00:00
  song together. And everybody needs to remain
• 1:00:03
  calm because everybody thinks they're the best.
• 1:00:05
  But you realize that you need the other three people to do
• 1:00:09
  what you're trying to accomplish.
• 1:00:10
  It puts everybody in check. That is an exercise in humility.
• 1:00:15
  And we didn't have everybody needs.
• 1:00:18
  Exactly. Not to the level that.
• 1:00:19
  Jake did in the United States. Marine Corps.
• 1:00:22
  But we policed ourselves pretty well, right?
• 1:00:24
  Right. Oh yeah.
• 1:00:26
  Well and the nice thing too is we didn't.
• 1:00:28
  I mean we had we had egos because you have to have an ego
• 1:00:31
  being a musician because you you're going and you're putting
• 1:00:34
  something that that you put your heart and soul into creating and
• 1:00:38
  standing in front of you know five people or 5000 people
• 1:00:42
  depending on the night the show and you're you're you're putting
• 1:00:46
  your soul out there. Especially from from from my
• 1:00:50
  standpoint like like you mentioned earlier like if they
• 1:00:52
  don't get through me they're not going to get to you guys so
• 1:00:55
  they're not going to hear the whole thing no pressure.
• 1:00:58
  So when you, when the. Vulnerability that singers?
• 1:01:03
  Have that have to have and it has to have an ego with it
• 1:01:07
  because if you don't, if you don't own your craft and if you
• 1:01:10
  don't own your space and you don't have that presence.
• 1:01:13
  Like I was told by an actor that I I so respected that I had an
• 1:01:17
  amazing stage presence. And at the time it didn't
• 1:01:21
  register to me what that meant, 'cause I was still in the
• 1:01:24
  beginning stages of acting and I hadn't got into the the music
• 1:01:27
  part of it yet. But then years later when when I
• 1:01:33
  heard that comment again and then I was, I was wise enough to
• 1:01:35
  kind of circle back to that. The the second time I heard it
• 1:01:40
  and asked what do you mean by that?
• 1:01:41
  And how they explained it was, you know you own the space when
• 1:01:45
  you're on the stage, it's like you're you just you own it.
• 1:01:48
  You the ego's there because it has to be there because of what
• 1:01:53
  you're doing and what you're projecting.
• 1:01:54
  And it's I was like wow that's that's fuck projecting is the
• 1:01:57
  right word. So.
• 1:01:58
  I never you. To the audience, I never.
• 1:02:02
  Looked at us to the audience. You look like you're bigger,
• 1:02:05
  you. You are bigger than you are.
• 1:02:07
  And it's it's not visually bigger.
• 1:02:10
  It's a feeling, you know, it's like, wow, man, This guy, right?
• 1:02:15
  This guy. Really.
• 1:02:16
  He's. Trying to tell me something and
• 1:02:19
  I'm digging what he's doing and or the flip side of that is if
• 1:02:25
  there's a we used to have long intros to our music a lot before
• 1:02:29
  Chris came out or before he would start singing, that's even
• 1:02:33
  more pressure. So now if we got a good riff and
• 1:02:36
  a good groove going and the whole crowd is into that music,
• 1:02:40
  now he has even more pressure because everybody in that
• 1:02:44
  crowd's thinking this guy better not fucking suck.
• 1:02:49
  If there's a minute and a half intro.
• 1:02:51
  To a song, but it's truth, that's.
• 1:02:54
  What everybody's thinking. Because we just gave them time
• 1:02:57
  to get into the music, and now you have to deliver even more so
• 1:03:01
  because they're into that, you know, they're thinking, wow,
• 1:03:05
  man, this message better be good and his voice better not suck.
• 1:03:11
  Yeah. No, absolutely.
• 1:03:14
  And that's the that's the thing. So I never, I never approached
• 1:03:16
  it. I never thought that any of us
• 1:03:19
  had egos in the in the in the context of of how we wrote songs
• 1:03:24
  and how we wrote music together and how we how we, you know,
• 1:03:27
  unified ourselves as a unit of four musicians, not towards each
• 1:03:31
  other backgrounds exactly. So that to me is rare because
• 1:03:39
  I've been in, you know, enough bands.
• 1:03:42
  Unfortunately, you know, it's so rare it's the only time it's
• 1:03:45
  ever. Happened for me, yeah.
• 1:03:48
  Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah.
• 1:03:49
  See, me too. I've never, I've never, I've
• 1:03:51
  never had that with any other band aside from Nemesis.
• 1:03:54
  Like never. And I think it was because we
• 1:03:55
  were so naive, because we were so young, that we just we were
• 1:03:59
  so focused on creating really cool music that that people kept
• 1:04:04
  coming back to listen to and people kept enjoying that.
• 1:04:09
  We just, we never took it for granted until it was no longer.
• 1:04:13
  Then it's like, fuck, that was it.
• 1:04:18
  That was one of those. Moments in our lifetime.
• 1:04:20
  That was like one of those, you know, everybody has those
• 1:04:24
  moments in life where it's it's it's this is the time of your
• 1:04:27
  life and you don't realize it while you're living it.
• 1:04:29
  It's something you look back on years later, realize, oh shit.
• 1:04:34
  That was one of those moments that if you could get it back, I
• 1:04:38
  would get it back. You know what I mean?
• 1:04:40
  It would never. It would never have ended.
• 1:04:42
  It's funny to think that we were.
• 1:04:45
  Smart enough to know that we. Needed each other but.
• 1:04:50
  Not smart enough to protect it at all costs, you know?
• 1:04:57
  Agreed. Agreed.
• 1:04:59
  Yeah, the. The naive part came out in that
• 1:05:05
  one member of the. Unit was not willing to wait.
• 1:05:11
  You know, I don't know if we, I don't think we ever gave you
• 1:05:14
  that option. And I don't know if you ever
• 1:05:15
  gave us that option, but that should have been an option.
• 1:05:18
  You know, it's just to wait. We could have wrote songs for
• 1:05:21
  six months, you know? No, I Yeah.
• 1:05:24
  Yeah. Scott and I could play for 10
• 1:05:25
  hours straight. And never get bored.
• 1:05:29
  Right. And that's that thing looking
• 1:05:31
  back on it now, but that's looking back on it now.
• 1:05:34
  You know what I mean? And it's just because I didn't
• 1:05:36
  know some of the stuff that we've talked about regarding the
• 1:05:39
  band at all because they just didn't know it, which I think is
• 1:05:43
  a good thing because if I think I would have, if I would have
• 1:05:45
  known that development deal was in the works, I it may have
• 1:05:47
  changed how I approach things. I would have tried instead of
• 1:05:51
  just going out there and doing if that makes any sense.
• 1:05:55
  No, I know what you're saying. You know, and I just verified
• 1:05:59
  that because you. Know the one thing that got
• 1:06:02
  saved? Is I have.
• 1:06:04
  A bag, a leather bag here full of stuff from Nemesis, yeah.
• 1:06:13
  It looks like that show and tell Time, Boys.
• 1:06:15
  And girls. Yeah.
• 1:06:18
  And I forgot. We used to.
• 1:06:20
  Do a monthly newsletter that we mailed out to people with
• 1:06:24
  stamps, kids. They're these things that you
• 1:06:27
  used to have to put on an envelope and you had to drop it
• 1:06:29
  in a blue box. It was monitored by the US
• 1:06:32
  Postal Service and every day a guy would come around and he
• 1:06:35
  would pick it up out of there. It was fascinating.
• 1:06:38
  And then it would go to all our fans, and we had a lot of fans.
• 1:06:42
  So I don't know how we afforded postage.
• 1:06:45
  How did we afford postage? Because we didn't have shit,
• 1:06:49
  man. We were broke.
• 1:06:49
  Those are stamps, kids. Chris just showed you an example
• 1:06:52
  of stamps right here on the podcast.
• 1:06:55
  And the irony? The irony back.
• 1:06:57
  Then every now and then you'd hear of a.
• 1:06:58
  Postal. Worker going postal?
• 1:07:00
  You don't hear that anymore. No, they must have.
• 1:07:03
  Lessened their working conditions.
• 1:07:05
  Maybe we could have a postman on the process?
• 1:07:10
  Because I actually know a postman he lives.
• 1:07:13
  Right around the corner from me, I went to high school with him.
• 1:07:15
  They're done. They're done so anyway in that.
• 1:07:21
  Newsletter postman, it said. That.
• 1:07:26
  And I had forgotten this part. So we played a gig and it might
• 1:07:30
  have been the last show that you played with us or near the last
• 1:07:33
  show you played that night. That guy was in the crowd.
• 1:07:38
  So he approached Scott and I I think it was the last show you
• 1:07:43
  played, cuz I'm pretty sure that there.
• 1:07:47
  Were bad feelings that? Night and I think you bailed and
• 1:07:51
  this guy came up and talked to us and he was there to see us
• 1:07:56
  specifically. He didn't.
• 1:07:59
  He wasn't there before. We I know, Hey dude.
• 1:08:04
  He wasn't there before any of the other bands played and he
• 1:08:08
  didn't stick around. He left right after he talked to
• 1:08:10
  Scott and I. He gave us his card.
• 1:08:12
  He lived in Paradise Valley. He says please come to my house.
• 1:08:15
  I'm building a studio. I used to run sound for Queens
• 1:08:17
  Reich. I work for Elektra Records or
• 1:08:20
  EMI. I think Queens Reich was signed
• 1:08:22
  to at the time. I can't.
• 1:08:24
  Anyway, he worked for that. Label he was.
• 1:08:28
  Trying to get into producing. He loved our whole package, you
• 1:08:34
  know? I mean, we had, we had the look,
• 1:08:38
  we had the sound. We had the.
• 1:08:39
  Presentation for, you know, somehow our name got all the way
• 1:08:43
  to him and I. I just verified it, you know.
• 1:08:48
  I didn't bring that story up. I just read it so right.
• 1:08:53
  Well, and and I had forgotten he was there to just see us.
• 1:08:56
  You know, oh. Right on.
• 1:08:59
  No, go ahead with your thought. Back then, everything was word
• 1:09:01
  of mouth. Well, that's what I'm saying.
• 1:09:03
  Back then, everything was word of mouth.
• 1:09:05
  It wasn't. You didn't have the Internet.
• 1:09:07
  Really, I think. No, the Internet was fucking
• 1:09:09
  useful. That kind of back.
• 1:09:10
  Then. But you didn't.
• 1:09:12
  Right, so everything was word of mouth.
• 1:09:14
  So, you know, maybe the fact that she shut up at Franco's
• 1:09:17
  house and knocked on his door, he's like, well, fuck, this
• 1:09:19
  guy's got some, you know, balls of a freaking, you know, giant,
• 1:09:25
  you know, But it had to be some element of respect.
• 1:09:28
  This, this guy had No Fear and came knocking on my door.
• 1:09:31
  Whether he knew who I was or not is.
• 1:09:33
  Irrelevant, the guys. Yeah, in that same folder is a
• 1:09:37
  letter. That I will take a picture of
• 1:09:38
  and put on the Chris and mikeshow@facebook.com that was.
• 1:09:44
  Given to us. You were there that night
• 1:09:46
  because I think we got that letter that night and basically
• 1:09:49
  it says that the Mason Jar has served as a venue for such
• 1:09:54
  notable national acts as everybody that we've named at
• 1:09:56
  the beginning of the podcast. And we would like we would be
• 1:10:01
  honored or something like that if you would use something to
• 1:10:07
  the. Effect of We could use the
• 1:10:08
  Mason. Jar as a.
• 1:10:14
  What do you call it when you're on somebody's resume?
• 1:10:16
  God. Damn, I'm drawing a blank.
• 1:10:20
  You can. Use me as a reference.
• 1:10:21
  Thank you. Jeez, holy moly.
• 1:10:24
  Sorry people, my brain just stopped working for about two
• 1:10:27
  seconds there. So yeah, they basically said
• 1:10:30
  your band is more than welcome to use the Mason Jar name as a A
• 1:10:34
  reference and they would vouch for us as being a a band that
• 1:10:38
  could draw people in and make money.
• 1:10:40
  So yeah, you're probably right. That's probably where that guy
• 1:10:44
  got that information from. Yeah, for sure.
• 1:10:52
  We've this is our longest show to date, by the way.
• 1:10:54
  We've, I think we've been going since about 2:30.
• 1:10:56
  And it's 351. Yeah, that's all good, man.
• 1:11:02
  It's all good. That's a long time you have.
• 1:11:04
  No, you have no idea. I've listened.
• 1:11:07
  I've listened to 4 hour. Podcast.
• 1:11:11
  Really. Yeah.
• 1:11:13
  Usually there's two other people talking.
• 1:11:15
  About in those four hour podcast.
• 1:11:19
  Well, that's the nice thing. It's just, you know, normally
• 1:11:23
  ask me what this is about. I say we just.
• 1:11:24
  Talk. Yeah.
• 1:11:27
  But we're going to have conversations on a civil level
• 1:11:31
  about subjects, just like last week.
• 1:11:33
  You know, I'm surprised I didn't get a whole bunch of backlash
• 1:11:35
  about Bash fashion religion. But I didn't.
• 1:11:39
  Well, we didn't Bash religion. We.
• 1:11:41
  We didn't bash religion, though. Think about it.
• 1:11:42
  We, we. Yeah, we just we just, we we
• 1:11:44
  talked about, we talked. We talked about how Jesus was
• 1:11:49
  pissed off at his father walking through the desert for 40 days
• 1:11:52
  and 40 nights. Was it 40 days and 40 nights in
• 1:11:54
  the desert? Was that the flood?
• 1:11:57
  I don't. Yeah.
• 1:11:57
  But you know how he was. Oh, that might have been.
• 1:11:59
  That's how. You know we don't even know.
• 1:12:01
  Yeah, but that's. Yeah, but that's how the
• 1:12:03
  swearing. Began.
• 1:12:04
  You know, because you know, nobody's going to be like, oh
• 1:12:06
  shoot, Dad, do I really have to walk all this way for this
• 1:12:11
  amount of time in this barren wasteland of desert?
• 1:12:14
  Now, you know, listen to last week's show and you'll, you'll,
• 1:12:17
  you'll hear our insight on on how certain adverbs is an adverb
• 1:12:23
  or an adjective. It would be an adjective.
• 1:12:25
  Adjectives were formed. By.
• 1:12:27
  By the Son of God, you know, you know, and then you know.
• 1:12:32
  So yeah, you got to listen to that show.
• 1:12:34
  I'm not going to, I'm not going to go back down that path.
• 1:12:36
  It's all make them listen. It's all.
• 1:12:38
  Entertainment. Did you put a picture?
• 1:12:40
  Jesus on. Did the Jesus picture up?
• 1:12:43
  You know I did not. That would have.
• 1:12:46
  Been funny. I leave myself open.
• 1:12:48
  Because that could have opened a whole new.
• 1:12:49
  Can of listeners. Man, because I leave myself open
• 1:12:53
  to possibility. Yeah, your Internet.
• 1:12:57
  Your Internet just went out because your screen went black.
• 1:12:59
  What? Yep.
• 1:13:02
  Your screen went black. So you have Internet issues.
• 1:13:05
  I'm still here. Black black screen.
• 1:13:07
  And I still hear. You black screen.
• 1:13:09
  Black screen, black. Screen I can still hear you.
• 1:13:12
  I just can't see you. You're just black.
• 1:13:14
  It's like Spinal Taps album Smell.
• 1:13:18
  The Glove. It was just black.
• 1:13:19
  None more black. And then that.
• 1:13:21
  Then. That band?
• 1:13:22
  Metallica. Then that band Metallica stole
• 1:13:25
  the idea. Yes?
• 1:13:26
  Whose idea was it to? Make the album Black Spinal.
• 1:13:32
  Yeah, Spinal Tap, man, you know, we got to do, I thought.
• 1:13:36
  About this we need to do. Yeah, yeah, I I thought about
• 1:13:43
  this. We need to do do top 11 lists,
• 1:13:46
  not top ten because we're musicians.
• 1:13:48
  You turn it up to 11. So I'm going to start drawing up
• 1:13:52
  top 11, the top 11 list of the show, and I'll, I'll send you a
• 1:13:56
  copy before the next show. So we can take, we can bounce
• 1:14:00
  off 1-2, you know, we start at 11 and go down to #1, but we'll,
• 1:14:05
  you know, so I'm down, I'm gonna do that.
• 1:14:08
  I'm gonna do that. I'm down, man.
• 1:14:10
  Right. On I'll play along.
• 1:14:12
  So let's leave it at that. Let's leave it at that.
• 1:14:14
  All right, brother. I know you will.
• 1:14:16
  You have no choice. Is my screen still black?
• 1:14:20
  It was good talking to you. Today, Mike Michaels.
• 1:14:22
  No, it's not black. Now.
• 1:14:23
  Now you're just fuzzy. You're a fuzzy man.
• 1:14:26
  Fuzzy, fuzzy, fuzzy. I'm fuzzy.
• 1:14:27
  All right. We also need.
• 1:14:29
  To decide what? And we do show in March, we got
• 1:14:32
  to talk like, like we got to have accents like we're from
• 1:14:34
  Ireland or from Scotland. You know, the entire show talk
• 1:14:38
  with a Cockney accent or something like that.
• 1:14:40
  So people like are these people from another another country.
• 1:14:44
  I'll let you do an accent and I'll.
• 1:14:46
  Laugh at you because I can't do accents and and then.
• 1:14:51
  And then they don't realize that it's not really an accent.
• 1:14:54
  It's just, you know from the other side of the world.
• 1:14:57
  I'm just doing a podcast with this guy who has the same last
• 1:15:00
  name as it is his first name. Like, what was your mother
• 1:15:02
  thinking? Michael Michaels?
• 1:15:04
  Like let's get her on the phone sometime.
• 1:15:06
  Michael Michaels. Why did you do that?
• 1:15:08
  Well, David Michaels or Skip Michaels or Terence Michaels,
• 1:15:12
  she could answer. What's the reasoning behind?
• 1:15:14
  Double named Double. Entendre, she could answer that
• 1:15:17
  pretty It's a double. Entendre.
• 1:15:20
  We'll have her on here. She can answer it.
• 1:15:21
  Well, of course she could. She's your mom.
• 1:15:24
  Yeah, I'm not going. To behave.
• 1:15:26
  Myself, if your mom's on the show, she's saying no, I don't
• 1:15:29
  think she expects you to. Behavior I got to.
• 1:15:31
  Be me who are you? I got to be.
• 1:15:35
  Free until. Next week, ladies and gentlemen
• 1:15:38
  all. Right boys and girls, Everybody
• 1:15:39
  be. Kind this is this is the guy
• 1:15:41
  that. Works out a lot with.
• 1:15:43
  With the guitar guy, we are the Chris and Mike Show.
• 1:15:45
  Yeah, be kind, be kind and find us on Facebook.
• 1:15:48
  Go to Facebook and type in just Chris and Mike show, not the
• 1:15:52
  Just type in Chris and Mike's show and you will see our little
• 1:15:58
  logo Ish Cartoony caricature thing with me and him
• 1:16:04
  back-to-back. I'm smiling in a black suit and
• 1:16:06
  he's got a guitar because. And we're both bald in the
• 1:16:09
  picture, which was a stretch. I told the artist, yeah, yeah, I
• 1:16:15
  told the artist to just take all her hair away, you know.
• 1:16:17
  So yeah, we don't have any, you know, really, really kind of
• 1:16:22
  connect with us. You know we have here.
• 1:16:23
  We just choose not to grow it. We're not follically challenged
• 1:16:26
  by any way, shape or form. It's just it's a lifestyle.
• 1:16:29
  Choice. That I I personally made in 1993
• 1:16:32
  you did you finally followed suit in in what 2010 or
• 1:16:36
  something and you know here we sit.
• 1:16:39
  So again shout out to my buddy Jake slash you know Todd Smith
• 1:16:43
  and his surgery. Get well, get well my friend.
• 1:16:47
  Yes. Positive vibes, Todd, anybody?
• 1:16:49
  Else out there scoring, yeah. And it is that silly time of
• 1:16:52
  year. So, you know, if you're out
• 1:16:53
  there and it's you're depressed and you know, what was me stuff
• 1:16:56
  going on, Reach out to somebody. You know, depression's a real
• 1:17:00
  thing. Kids don't hide in your room
• 1:17:03
  under your covers. You know, talk to somebody.
• 1:17:06
  There's always a a better day. Tomorrow, go to Chris and Mike
• 1:17:10
  show and drop us a message. We'll.
• 1:17:11
  Talk to you. I don't want anybody to fall out
• 1:17:13
  on us. Yes and and yeah.
• 1:17:16
  Yeah. And follow us, like us and
• 1:17:18
  follow us because that helps our world go around.
• 1:17:21
  And it'll help us grow our, our, our.
• 1:17:24
  It'll help, it'll help grow Mike's dream of having a
• 1:17:26
  successful podcast in which we get uh sponsors and ads.
• 1:17:31
  Yes, You know, so we could say come Q live in the We fix ugly.
• 1:17:34
  Pool Studio. From right, exactly.
• 1:17:38
  So you know, there you go. Until next week, ladies and
• 1:17:42
  gentlemen. As always, everybody be kind.
• 1:17:46
  Thank you, my brother. Absolutely.
• 1:17:48
  See you guys later. Oh.
• 1:17:49
  Shit. What did I just do?
• 1:17:51
  I hit a button. There I am.
• 1:17:52
  Hey, I'm back now. OK.
• 1:17:54
  Peace out the.