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DIDDY BOO HOO: DIDDY'S LIFE BEHIND BARS, CHARGES MOUNT · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Ditty Boohoo, Shawn Puppy Combs
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Speaker 1: behind bars? What is his life like? This? As Ditty
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Speaker 1: whines trying to get transferred to another more cushy jail,
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Speaker 1: this as charges seemingly mount, I'm Nancy Grace, this is
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. What are
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Speaker 1: we learning about Diddy Shawn Comb's life behind bars? Listen well?
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Speaker 2: Initial reports said Shawn Combs is housed in the special
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Speaker 2: Housing unit at the Metropolitan Detention Center. We now know
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Speaker 2: the music mogul is on suicide watch Guards check on
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Speaker 2: Comb's on the hour, every hour to ensure the rapper
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Speaker 2: has made no attempts to harm himself. The extra monitoring
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Speaker 2: is reportedly a standard practice at the jail for new
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Speaker 2: high profile inmates, and not the result of Combs's psychological exam.
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Speaker 2: At Intake, defense Bernie Mark Agnifilow claims his client is strong, healthy, confident,
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Speaker 2: and focused on his defense after spending six hours with
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Speaker 2: Combs at MDC after baylist denied.
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Speaker 1: So let me understand what's happening. Is it true that
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Speaker 1: Sean Comebs aka Ditty has been placed and a suicide
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Speaker 1: watch ward when he is not really suicidal, joining me
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Speaker 1: in all Star panel to make sense of what we're
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Speaker 1: hearing right now, and joining me on the scene. Crime
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Speaker 1: Online dot Com investigative reporter Angelica Martinez. Angelica, thank you
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Speaker 1: for being with us. What do we know about the
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Speaker 1: so called suicide ward?
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Speaker 3: Yes, Nancy. So, according to some reports, Sean Puffy Combs Akap,
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Speaker 3: Diddy Akay Brother Love has allegedly been placed on suicide
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Speaker 3: watch and he is being held behind me in the
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Speaker 3: Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn. The suicide watch, as we heard,
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Speaker 3: is you a standard practice from you inmates as they
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Speaker 3: are being in taken into the detention facility And.
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Speaker 1: Jala Ka Martinez, did you actually just say that all
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Speaker 1: new inmates go to the medical ward? Did you say that? No,
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Speaker 1: that's not true. I think it's just Diddy is on
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Speaker 1: the medical ward.
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Speaker 3: We know what happened to exein the last time. He
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Speaker 3: was in the Metropolitan Correction Center, which is part of
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Speaker 3: the Federal Borough of Prisons, which is what the MDC
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Speaker 3: is also part of. So this is just a standard
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Speaker 3: practice to make sure that we can carry out justice
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Speaker 3: to its fullest term. So that is allegedly where Sean
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Speaker 3: Puffy Combs is currently being held as far as we know.
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Speaker 3: But again I want to highlight that his attorney said
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Speaker 3: that he Diddy Sean Puffy Combes is strong and healthy
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Speaker 3: and focusing on preparing his defense. So reports are a
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Speaker 3: little mixed on that. But yes, he's currently being held
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Speaker 3: in the MDC, which is right behind me as we know.
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Speaker 3: And we have a former warden, Cameron Lindsay, who is
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Speaker 3: actually on record as saying that Diddy poses as a
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Speaker 3: very attractive target for other inmates and the MDC saying, quote,
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Speaker 3: to deliver a hit on him would be considered a
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Speaker 3: bad of honor end quote. So Diddy is in quite
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Speaker 3: a hairy situation. Whether she is on suicide watch, we're
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Speaker 3: just surrounded by other inmates. Doesn't seem like it'll be
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Speaker 3: going too well for him inside the MDC anytime soon.
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Speaker 1: Joining me at the MDC Metropolitan Detention Center, Angelica Martinez, Angelica,
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Speaker 1: please stay right there. Interesting that Seawn Comes's lawyer is
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Speaker 1: worried about him being a target of a hit. I
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Speaker 1: just finished Ditty's former fiance, now deceased Kim Porter's book,
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Speaker 1: Kim's Lost Words. Now this has been published recently posthumously
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Speaker 1: after she died, and it details a lot, a lot
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Speaker 1: about Sean Puffy comes sex proclivities. Don't care, don't care.
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Speaker 1: What I care about is forcing sex on other people
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Speaker 1: and even more important, ordering not just the hit on
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Speaker 1: Tupac Shakur allegedly, but also the hit on Tupac Shaker
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Speaker 1: in an elevator where he was shot before he was
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Speaker 1: shot and killed. He survived that hit and according to
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Speaker 1: kim Porter, if this is to be believed, the attack
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Speaker 1: on Big the notorious Big Biggie. Is this real? But
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Speaker 1: now the tables have certainly turned. Now his lawyer is
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Speaker 1: worried about him being the object of a hit behind bars.
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Speaker 1: Straight out to renowned psychoanalyst doctor Bethany Marshall joining us,
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Speaker 1: author of deal Breaker. You can see her on Peacock.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany, thank you for joining us. The tables have turned,
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Speaker 1: and I am not in any way condoning more violence.
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Speaker 1: But this is quite the come up. It's to be
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Speaker 1: concerned about a hit by an unknown inmate behind bars
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Speaker 1: when according to his fiance, he was the one ordering hits.
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Speaker 1: That's right.
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Speaker 4: Nancy Puff Diddy aka Love has been in full power
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Speaker 4: and control in every area of his life, including being
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Speaker 4: able to cheat on girlfriends, being able to force sex
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Speaker 4: partners to have hours of sex with unwanted partners while
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Speaker 4: on ecstasy and on other jugs drugs. He is always
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Speaker 4: pulling the leavers of power behind the scenes. So the
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Speaker 4: question is behind bars, would he really be suicidal? I mean,
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Speaker 4: on the one hand, he's impulsive and aggressive, which can
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Speaker 4: be a precursor to suicidality. On the other, Nancy, he
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Speaker 4: loves himself so much, and he is kind of brandiose
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Speaker 4: he thinks he's controlling everything from behind bars. I tell it,
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Speaker 4: he really thinks he's going to be there forever.
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Speaker 1: I'm very concerned specifically about the allegations in Kim Porter's book.
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Speaker 1: Now this was released posthumously after she passed. Okay, his
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Speaker 1: longtime love, his fiance. We've been told, and I question
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Speaker 1: on page twenty six in my handwritten notes, does Sean
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Speaker 1: Puffy Combs aka Diddy hate women, because according to her,
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Speaker 1: he by far preferred sex with males. Do No, I
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Speaker 1: don't care who he sleeps with. I do care if
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Speaker 1: it turns into rape or if it turns into a
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Speaker 1: sex attack. That I care about. But I'm curious. Doctor
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Speaker 1: Bethany I'm curious if this is true, would that be
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Speaker 1: a reason logical reason to drug women in video them
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Speaker 1: and all of these compromising situations, being raped while they're
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Speaker 1: on drugs, having them beaten so badly they have to
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Speaker 1: go hide out to rehabilitate and get rid of their bruises.
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Speaker 1: Is that an underlined And of course I'm just a
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Speaker 1: former prosecutor. The why is not anything I would have
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Speaker 1: to prove to a jury. However, practically speaking, a jury
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Speaker 1: would want to know that. Is that psychological reason to
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Speaker 1: torment women and degrade them and debate them because you
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Speaker 1: really don't want to be with them, you know, Nancy.
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Speaker 4: It's one of many reasons to torment and torture women,
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Speaker 4: you know. According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Statistical Manual
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Speaker 4: of Mental Disorders, there are five perversions, and p did
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Speaker 4: he has every single one. Fraudiism, which is rubbing up
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Speaker 4: against an unsuspecting person, exhibitionism, voyeurism, and sadism. Sadism is
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Speaker 4: when you when you obtain sexual pleasure from inflicting cruelty
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Speaker 4: on other people.
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Speaker 1: In fact, with the true.
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Speaker 4: Perversion, the man or the person who's perverse cannot achieve
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Speaker 4: orgasm or ejaculation without engaging in the perversion. So he
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Speaker 4: can only achieve orgasm when he's orchestrating all of these
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Speaker 4: freak offs and committing cruel acts against women, and in fact,
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Speaker 4: with perversions, notoriously, the perverse person cannot relate to others
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Speaker 4: as full individuals with thoughts, feelings, and emotions of their own.
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Speaker 4: They just become objects to triumph oward and they become
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Speaker 4: sexual objects.
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Speaker 1: At that, I ought to be very clear, Sean Puffy
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Speaker 1: Coombs aka Diddy is not charged with pedophilia. He has
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Speaker 1: not been convicted of anything yet, and under our jurisprudence,
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Speaker 1: he remains innocent until proven guilty. And that is a fact.
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Speaker 1: But I got to tell you straight out to high
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Speaker 1: profile criminal defense attorney Tim Janssen, former federal prosecutor and
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Speaker 1: now legal analysts Tallahasee Democrat. Tim, here's the thing about
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Speaker 1: this book by kim Porter. One is it by kim Porter?
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Speaker 1: Because it has an as told to here? So is
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Speaker 1: it really from her diaries? Okay? Number one? That would
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Speaker 1: have to be verified and authenticated. But if it is true,
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Speaker 1: Tim Janssen, it's still here say, and it would be
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Speaker 1: very hard to get this into a court of law
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Speaker 1: unless you know you can beat the hearsay rule with
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Speaker 1: a lot over twenty exceptions, such as deathbed declarations, and
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Speaker 1: according to a deathbed declaration, she asked for this to
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Speaker 1: be published after her death, and she notes that it
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Speaker 1: will hurt her children when they read it. But you know,
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Speaker 1: it's so full of very serious allegation. Is not just
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Speaker 1: the sex, the forced sex allegations that we already know of.
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Speaker 1: It talks about celebrities in and out Diddy's home, all
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Speaker 1: of them sleeping with him and or others. Is that true,
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Speaker 1: don't know. But what concerns me the most him Jansen,
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Speaker 1: is the very clear and very rich in detail circumstances
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Speaker 1: and conversations that she hears about ordering the hit on
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Speaker 1: Biggie Notorious Big and Tupac sycur What about it? All?
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Speaker 5: Right?
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Speaker 6: So it is here saying I'm not sure it's relevant.
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Speaker 6: I'm not sure on her four h four B that
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Speaker 6: would be admissible in any way. I'm not sure that
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Speaker 6: would satisfy a dying declaration. As you know, dying declaration
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Speaker 6: impending death has to be occurring or about to occur,
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Speaker 6: which gives it a dish of reliability. Now, if they
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Speaker 6: can find witnesses who can verify any of these facts
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Speaker 6: that they eyewitness and they probably are going out there
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Speaker 6: now trying to find these witnesses they could call if
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Speaker 6: it's part of the charges in the in the allegation.
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Speaker 1: Hey, Tim Jansen, I like you have already been thinking
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Speaker 1: about those issues. This is a bombshell right here. If
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Speaker 1: it's true, if she really said this, if I can
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Speaker 1: prove this and authenticate it came from her writings and
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Speaker 1: these are her words. But think about it, Jensen, because
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Speaker 1: what she says she overheard were conversations with another person,
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Speaker 1: So there is another witness. And again, the federal indictment
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Speaker 1: does not touch on the Tupac Shakur killing or the
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Speaker 1: notorious Big killing, so that would have to be another case.
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Speaker 1: What I'm saying is charges could be mounting right now
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Speaker 1: because once the Feds get ahold of you. Isn't this true, Tim,
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Speaker 1: You are a federal prosecutor now defense attorney. What's the
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Speaker 1: Feds get their hooks in you, You're not going anywhere.
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Speaker 1: They dig deeper and deeper and deeper. And I would
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Speaker 1: not be surprised if more charges were added as part
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Speaker 1: of in furtherance of the criminal enterprise they've already charged.
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Speaker 6: Oh, I think you are exactly right. The criminal enterprise
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Speaker 6: has many tenants, and you know, once he's in custody
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Speaker 6: and he's a way and he doesn't have the power
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Speaker 6: over people. People a lot more willing to talk. And
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Speaker 6: a person who was not who was protected, who now
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Speaker 6: is looking at fifteen twenty thirty years in prison, they
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Speaker 6: might be willing to talk knowing that he's in custody
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Speaker 6: and probably can't reach him, and they could hide that
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Speaker 6: business and don't have to disclose his testimony for quite
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Speaker 6: a while. So you could see an amended in a
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Speaker 6: superseding indictment which could add other charge.
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Speaker 1: Another question, and this goes straight out to Shannon and Henry. Well,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to need a shrink on this one too, Shannon, President,
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Speaker 1: founder SASS, which is Surviving Assault Standing Strong, a nonprofit
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Speaker 1: to help eradicate six trafficking and abuse on women. Shannon, Henry,
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Speaker 1: I kept reading this, you know, every page, I'm like,
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Speaker 1: why does she stay with him? Why did you Orter
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Speaker 1: stay with Combs? She's hearing allegedly, according to her, planning
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Speaker 1: a hit on Tupac Shakur, and then it did happen.
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Speaker 1: You know he was shot in an elevator years before
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Speaker 1: he's finally killed. He survived that, and he suspected that
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Speaker 1: Sean Combs was behind that hit. Okay, and according to Porter,
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Speaker 1: he was. Then she overhears sitting at the table. It's
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Speaker 1: not like she's listening at the door. She's sitting there
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Speaker 1: hearing the discussion of no more protection for Biggie. If
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Speaker 1: Biggie's not loyal to Combs one hundred and fifty percent,
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Speaker 1: then Combs can't protect him anymore. And what oh, what
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Speaker 1: if he gets killed? And he goes so far to
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Speaker 1: say in this book Shannon, that Biggie is worth more
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Speaker 1: to Comb's dead than alive. Why because it would ignite
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Speaker 1: news and rumors about East Coast West Coast feud, and
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Speaker 1: it would help his business. Believe it or not. Again,
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Speaker 1: this has to be authenticated. So my question to you is,
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Speaker 1: Shannon Henry, if she's hearing him, if she's hearing him
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Speaker 1: plotting these crimes, these killings, these shootings, why would she
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Speaker 1: stay with him? Why do women stay with violent men
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Speaker 1: and risk their own lives.
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Speaker 7: It's really simple, Nancy. It boils down to fear. Nobody
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Speaker 7: comes up and punches you in the face and says,
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Speaker 7: would you like to go on a date?
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Speaker 8: Right?
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Speaker 7: That's we would never go. So what happens instead is
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Speaker 7: they work their way into your life. They're kind, They
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Speaker 7: put you on a pedestal and you feel like everything's good.
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Speaker 7: They see me, they get me, until that pedestal turns
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Speaker 7: into a spotlight and you realize you are in a
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Speaker 7: spotlight only to be controlled, only to be manipulated, and
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Speaker 7: only to be hurt so that they gain what they want.
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Speaker 7: And you stay because you're afraid to leave. And when
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Speaker 7: we look at him history of arson, physical violence, gun violence,
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Speaker 7: mental anguish that he inflicts on people, as well as
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Speaker 7: sexual violence and allegedly murder, it's really clear why somebody
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Speaker 7: would be afraid to walk out of the.
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Speaker 1: Dam crime stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 9: In addition to snacks and hygiene items, did he has
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Speaker 9: the option to purchase full meals from the MDC Commissary.
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Speaker 9: His options include stuffed chicken with rice, eggplant, parmesan bone
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Speaker 9: in chicken, a rib steak, or beef chillant. The estimated
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Speaker 9: billionaire will have to watch his one hundred and sixty
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Speaker 9: dollars spending limit per trip.
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Speaker 1: What did I just hear a ribi. Let me check
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Speaker 1: that a ribi, beef stew, egg palm, chicken with rice?
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Speaker 1: What who? Wha? Well? Let me see grits, oatmeal, pancakes, syrup,
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Speaker 1: French toast. I'd like some French toast. What's for a
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Speaker 1: long unch? Chicken wrap, hamburgers, baked chick tacos? I would
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Speaker 1: love a taco dinner, roast beef. I'd like that Salisbury
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Speaker 1: steak sahitaes what okay? Sidney Summer joining me Crime online
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Speaker 1: dot Com investigative reporter joining us along with Angelica Martinez
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Speaker 1: outside of NDC Metropolitan Detention Center, Sidney Sumner A steak.
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Speaker 1: He can have a steak whenever he wants it. What
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Speaker 1: do you just order it?
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Speaker 10: Yes, there are several different meals that Diddy could be
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Speaker 10: ordering instead of what's on the regular daily menual, and
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Speaker 10: those meals talk anywhere from five dollars to nearly ten
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Speaker 10: dollars for that rib steak. But yes, he has access
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Speaker 10: to all of that, all kinds of smacks. He does
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Speaker 10: have to watch that one hundred and sixty dollars spending limit,
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Speaker 10: and it's unclear how many times a week he can
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Speaker 10: visit this commentary maybe once a week, twice a week.
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Speaker 1: It says one hundred and sixty bucks per trip. Yes,
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Speaker 1: so okay, I'm just understanding, trying to understand why he
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Speaker 1: is getting special treatment behind bars because his lawyer has
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Speaker 1: been very clear that he is not suicidal at all,
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Speaker 1: but yet he's on suicide watch. What does that mean?
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Speaker 1: That means he's very likely in the medical unit and
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Speaker 1: getting special privileges. Can we just get real for just
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Speaker 1: one moment. Chris mcdonnad joining me, Director cole Case Foundation,
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Speaker 1: former homicide detective, and former vice detective. He's a star
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Speaker 1: of YouTube channel The Interview Room. Chris, Please just can
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Speaker 1: we speak very clearly and candidly. When rich, famous people
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Speaker 1: go to jail and they're awaiting trial, they can't get
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Speaker 1: into a minimax, which is a mini let me see,
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Speaker 1: supervised jail, you know where they have golf and they
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Speaker 1: walk free and they wear regular clothes, that kind of thing.
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Speaker 1: They can't go there until after their trial. Okay, before
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Speaker 1: their trial. When they're in a holding faciliti facilities such
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Speaker 1: as MDC, they get special privileges. Why not, sure, but
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Speaker 1: they get a private room very often, they get special treatment,
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Speaker 1: special meals, They don't integrate with GP general population, they
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Speaker 1: don't eat their meals with general population. It's a very
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Speaker 1: rarefied position to be in. I mean, granted that you
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Speaker 1: are in MDC, how great can it be? But it's
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Speaker 1: still kid glove treatment. He is not suicidal, Chris. His
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Speaker 1: own lawyer has stated that, So why is he getting
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Speaker 1: kid glove treatment? Chris mcdonna.
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Speaker 8: That is an absolutely great question, Nancy, Because in these units,
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Speaker 8: they're special housing units, right, the shoe unit, the whole
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Speaker 8: purpose of that is to house somebody in there because
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Speaker 8: of one they're a threat assessment comes up that this
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Speaker 8: guy is a high threat and or a high target threat,
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Speaker 8: meaning somebody else wants to take this person out. The
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Speaker 8: fact that this guy has an open buffet with one
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Speaker 8: hundred and sixty dollars tab on a daily visit is
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Speaker 8: absolutely ridiculous. And why that would be occurring has to
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Speaker 8: be because of his status, not necessarily because of anything
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Speaker 8: other than that in this particular facility. And the other
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Speaker 8: reason that they want to keep them in the shoe
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Speaker 8: unit is to keep the calms down, the communications down
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Speaker 8: to the outside because he may have influence on an
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Speaker 8: active investigation.
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Speaker 1: And I guess you know psychologically, doctor Bethany Marshall, coming
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Speaker 1: from such great luxury and such a lavish lifestyle, I
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Speaker 1: assume that's even harder to go to MDC when you've
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Speaker 1: been used to that as opposed to other people that
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Speaker 1: are not used to that lifestyle. But that doesn't make
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Speaker 1: it fair that he's being treated differently from the rest
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Speaker 1: of the inmates.
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Speaker 4: No, Nancy, this does not make its fair. I am
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Speaker 4: sure he is enraged at every limitation that's put on
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Speaker 4: him in this place. And I would imagine his offending
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Speaker 4: pattern as we've seen it unfold, having power over people,
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Speaker 4: being cruel, trying to have kind of dirt over other
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Speaker 4: people so that he can insinuate them into his lives.
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Speaker 4: I bet he's playing that out in the prison system,
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Speaker 4: trying to talk to the guards, butter them up, get
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Speaker 4: them to join in on his sexual fantasy so then
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Speaker 4: he can wrap them out and have power over them.
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Speaker 4: The offending pattern is going to go on and on
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Speaker 4: no matter where he is, even if he has a
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Speaker 4: Bologney sandwich for lunch, he's going to have power, try
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Speaker 4: to have power over the person who made the Boloonney
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Speaker 4: sandwich for him. So it's going to be the same
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Speaker 4: no matter where he goes.
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Speaker 1: You know, we were talking earlier about how it would
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Speaker 1: quote be a badge of honor if someone managed to
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Speaker 1: attack Combs behind bars. Also, the reverse side of that
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Speaker 1: coin is that the jailers and other inmates, just as
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Speaker 1: it was with Epstein, can be easily paid off to
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Speaker 1: do him favors, be his butler, give him additional privileges
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Speaker 1: and items other people won't have. The next move, I
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Speaker 1: guarantee you on the upcoming court hearing in just a
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Speaker 1: few days is going to be trying to get him
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Speaker 1: to a cushy jail. Now, what will be the reason
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Speaker 1: the lawyer gives the judge something like I don't like it.
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Speaker 5: Listen, you can get certain number of federal inmates in
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Speaker 5: Axon County, New Jersey, and in my experience, it's just
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Speaker 5: it's just it's an easier place to deal with. I
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Speaker 5: think it's better for the person being housed there, and
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Speaker 5: it's easier to get access to him.
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Speaker 1: That's our friends from AP and that is the defense
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Speaker 1: attorney and a fellow speaking straight out to former federal
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Speaker 1: prosecutor now defense attorney Tim Janssen. So you don't just
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Speaker 1: go in front of the judge when you got MDC
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Speaker 1: full of a thousand people and so yeah, he doesn't
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Speaker 1: like it there. Now, that's not going to work. You
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Speaker 1: can't say I want to move to Essex County because
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Speaker 1: it's better. So what could the possible reason, a legal
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Speaker 1: reason for Cobs to be moved from MDC to Essex.
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Speaker 6: Well, he's going to have to come up with a
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Speaker 6: legal reason, like inability to get to provide legal counsel,
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Speaker 6: his access is denied or it's not as available in
22:31
Speaker 6: Essex County. He's going to have to give a reason. Right,
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Speaker 6: he's in a shoe unit as they described for many reasons.
22:39
Speaker 6: But communication too the outside world can still be done.
22:42
Speaker 6: It can be done through his lawyers, who knows what
22:45
Speaker 6: lawyer brings with them, paralegals who have contact with his people.
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Speaker 6: So he might still be in shoe, but he's still communicating.
22:53
Speaker 6: This judge is probably not going to grant any kind
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Speaker 6: of movement. If there was any a judge in Federal
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Speaker 6: district there that would have granted him.
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Speaker 1: They put him up place so I can say.
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Speaker 6: Him it would have been the judge that he has.
23:05
Speaker 6: He has assigned a very fair judge.
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Speaker 1: Hey, Tim, Yes, at any point. Were you ever a
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Speaker 1: judicial law clerk? No? No, So my first year as
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Speaker 1: a FED, I was a clerk to a federal magistrate. Yep.
23:21
Speaker 1: They don't play by the way. And let me tell you,
23:27
Speaker 1: I wait for it. The eating arrangements amongst the federal judges.
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Speaker 1: All right, wait, wait, I've got a point here. They
23:37
Speaker 1: all go into typically the law library. It's big, and
23:41
Speaker 1: all the law clerks and the judges go in. They're
23:44
Speaker 1: usually the law clerk because they're writing all the memos
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Speaker 1: for the judge. They go in there, or unless they
23:49
Speaker 1: have some fancy common area, but ours was the law library,
23:53
Speaker 1: and they eat lunch all together.
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Speaker 5: You know.
23:55
Speaker 1: They drift in and out just like any lunch room. Right,
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Speaker 1: So what about this judge going into the law library
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Speaker 1: to have his or her sandwich that he brought, he
24:05
Speaker 1: she brought, and they sent down and they have to
24:08
Speaker 1: look at the other judges and go, yeah, I did it.
24:12
Speaker 1: I gave him bond, or yeah that was me. I
24:15
Speaker 1: transferred him to Essex. Why not, that's not gonna happen.
24:18
Speaker 1: What do you think?
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Speaker 6: Well, I will tell you that the magistrate judges get
24:22
Speaker 6: the hint and they understand what the circuit judges want
24:25
Speaker 6: they work for the district judge, so they're not going
24:27
Speaker 6: to be granting bonds and giving liberal bonds to conservative judges.
24:32
Speaker 6: On the other hand, if they have.
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Speaker 1: I mean, any federal judge's going to make a ruling
24:37
Speaker 1: in this case, he she has to answer to the
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Speaker 1: other judges.
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Speaker 6: That's correct, and the magistrate definitely answers to the circuit
24:45
Speaker 6: the district judges, and the district judge was not going
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Speaker 6: to grant bond. Even the pleading and the motions that
24:52
Speaker 6: were filed by his lawyer. It was basically begging and
24:57
Speaker 6: it raised every red flag, and judge would see fifty
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Speaker 6: million dollar bond and passports of his family and hiring
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Speaker 6: his own intelligence.
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Speaker 1: It was red flags all over it.
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Speaker 6: I don't know how the lawyer made that argument with
25:10
Speaker 6: the straight face.
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Speaker 11: The DHS Department of Homeland Security source says Shawn Combs
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Speaker 11: kept sensitive and embarrassing videos from the sessions as collateral
25:18
Speaker 11: to insure silence from his victims, who are often young
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Speaker 11: women barely old enough or still too young to legally
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Speaker 11: consent to sexual activity. He further says the recovered tape
25:29
Speaker 11: show women completely out of it while male sex workers
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Speaker 11: assault them on Comb's orders. The investigator says, in his opinion,
25:36
Speaker 11: Diddy's as bad as Jeffrey Epstein.
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Speaker 1: So that sounds like a surefire charge of blackmail when
25:45
Speaker 1: you think about it. Sidney Summer joining me Crime Online
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Speaker 1: dot Com investigative reporter. We know these videos exist, and
25:53
Speaker 1: now evidence is mounting that Sean Combe's Akapuffy Akapuff Daddy
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Speaker 1: aka did He aka love would use these embarrassing videos
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Speaker 1: to quote ensure the women's silence, in other words, black
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Speaker 1: mail them. See where I'm going with.
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Speaker 10: This, Sydney Absolutely, Nancy, and that is a very real possibility.
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Speaker 10: You know, before this indictment came out, all of these
26:23
Speaker 10: alleged videos were all just whispers, all possibilities. Now we
26:28
Speaker 10: know that those videos do exist, and those videos often
26:32
Speaker 10: depict women who are barely old enough or still too
26:36
Speaker 10: young to legally consent to any of these sexual escapades,
26:41
Speaker 10: whether they were willing or not. So we know that
26:44
Speaker 10: these videos exist and that cone help them over people's
26:48
Speaker 10: head to keep them from speaking about what was happening
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Speaker 10: behind these closed doors and these alleged sex rooms in
26:56
Speaker 10: his Miami mansion.
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Speaker 1: Okay, kill, we say that Sydney Summer is that it's
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Speaker 1: long been whispered. I don't know that it was necessarily whispered.
27:07
Speaker 1: Has anybody heard of Eminem? For Pete's sake, one of
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Speaker 1: the greatest rappers that has ever lived. He's a lyrical genius.
27:18
Speaker 1: I mean, if you listen to just he may not
27:21
Speaker 1: like some of the words he uses, but the man
27:23
Speaker 1: is brilliant. Everybody down the panel listen to this. Uh,
27:29
Speaker 1: these are lyrics from Eminem. And he is talking about
27:34
Speaker 1: I'll just say a friend, and he says, because they
27:39
Speaker 1: like where my home is out, we stay. Yeah, what
27:44
Speaker 1: we can just say?
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Speaker 4: What?
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Speaker 1: I'm like a rapper? Are ape r? Got so many essays?
27:53
Speaker 1: Talking about friends? And then he says, Eminem says, wait,
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Speaker 1: he didn't just spell the word rapper and leave out
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Speaker 1: a P. Diddy? I mean, it's everybody blind. He's talking
28:10
Speaker 1: about friends essays, he's talking about out West Combs and
28:18
Speaker 1: he says, I'm like an inn, I'm like an r
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Speaker 1: a p E R raper got so many essay friends,
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Speaker 1: And then Eminem has a well, let me say backbone
28:34
Speaker 1: since I gave up cussing. Wait, he didn't just spell
28:37
Speaker 1: the word rapper and leave out a P. Diddy? He's
28:41
Speaker 1: clearly calling Combs a raper. And then he goes on
28:46
Speaker 1: to say, r I p rest in peace, Biggie and Pack.
28:51
Speaker 1: Both of y'all should be living. But I ain't trying
28:54
Speaker 1: to beef with him because he might put a hit
28:58
Speaker 1: on me like Teffee d get him. And that's the
29:04
Speaker 1: only way you're going to be killing me. I mean,
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Speaker 1: Eminem puts it out there. Help me out, Jensen. This
29:17
Speaker 1: is so clear. All this business about whispering about raping
29:21
Speaker 1: women and forced orgies and hits, it's not whispers. Eminem
29:28
Speaker 1: did a rap about it for Pete's sake.
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Speaker 6: Well, none of this activity was in silence, and it
29:34
Speaker 6: was all known apparently through all the music industry in Hollywood.
29:38
Speaker 6: Hollywood stars were showing up. And for Eminem to put
29:41
Speaker 6: this out a these are his lyrics and did this
29:44
Speaker 6: publicly and the way it's written and who's included, Boy,
29:49
Speaker 6: he's got a lot of courage for Eminem to do that.
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Speaker 1: Crimes to with Nancy Grace, Will Seampa be comes aka?
30:07
Speaker 1: Did he get moved to a better jail? We're waiting
30:10
Speaker 1: to find that out. Another court hearing is set for
30:14
Speaker 1: just a few days from now. It's called a status hearing,
30:17
Speaker 1: But that's basically a catch all phrase for either side
30:21
Speaker 1: to bring up whatever they want. Let me tell you
30:23
Speaker 1: how this is going to work. We know what the
30:25
Speaker 1: federal indictment says, but we have no idea what all
30:30
Speaker 1: the evidence the state has Federal prosecutors have to back
30:35
Speaker 1: up those claims right now while he is living it
30:39
Speaker 1: up on a medical ward, even though his lawyer says
30:41
Speaker 1: he is not suicidal. Right now, are the Fed's gathering
30:48
Speaker 1: evidence to mount additional charges? It by far would not
30:54
Speaker 1: be the first time that's happened. Charges like what, Evidence
30:59
Speaker 1: like what?
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Speaker 9: According to a Homeland Security agent, Diddy's Miami mansion has
31:04
Speaker 9: several rooms quote clearly dedicated to sex. The room stocked
31:08
Speaker 9: with sex toys, bondage gear, and lingerie are covered in
31:11
Speaker 9: hidden cameras that record participants from every possible angle. The
31:15
Speaker 9: investigator claims did he usually watched in person, but he
31:18
Speaker 9: could access the cameras from his phone or cast the
31:20
Speaker 9: live stream to a TV anywhere in the house.
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Speaker 1: How likely could it be? Tim Janssen, I mean, we
31:28
Speaker 1: see the Feds go forward with this indictment after Cassie
31:33
Speaker 1: Ventura's attack video was leaked, where he drags her up
31:39
Speaker 1: and down a hallway, beats her or kicks her. And
31:42
Speaker 1: he is so boldest to come out in a luxury
31:45
Speaker 1: hotel wearing nothing but a towel. There she is trying
31:48
Speaker 1: to get away. This is what blew the whole Thoh yeah,
31:52
Speaker 1: here he comes, here he comes. Now. According to sources,
31:58
Speaker 1: she was oh running away away from a sex worker
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Speaker 1: in Diddy's room, which would mean it had to be
32:05
Speaker 1: being videoed. It's also been claimed by the defense she
32:09
Speaker 1: was leaving because she was jealous, leaving without shoes and
32:13
Speaker 1: getting dragged back and beaten. Now that's not all. Wait
32:15
Speaker 1: for it. This one our friends at CNN. Then after
32:21
Speaker 1: he's dragged her that far, he waddles back to his
32:25
Speaker 1: room holding his towel. Now watch comes. He goes down
32:29
Speaker 1: to the end of the hall, sits down in frustration,
32:34
Speaker 1: and throws an expensive base at the wall. Yeah. Basically
32:38
Speaker 1: he can do anything and get away with it. My
32:41
Speaker 1: point being, the Feds came out without the current indictment
32:46
Speaker 1: after that video was released leaked. We got it from
32:51
Speaker 1: our friends at CNN, my former TV home at HLM.
32:55
Speaker 1: Now this book is out. Okay, what if anything are
33:00
Speaker 1: they going to do? Triggered by the revelations in this
33:04
Speaker 1: book after and if it's authenticated, I mean, it's very
33:09
Speaker 1: in depth about planning a hit on Tupac Shakur and
33:14
Speaker 1: on Bigie, very very clear.
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Speaker 6: Well, they're going to be probing through that book and
33:21
Speaker 6: probing through the house, probing through witnesses. They probably have
33:25
Speaker 6: teams of investigators that are doing each part of the investigation,
33:30
Speaker 6: the Saxon violence and then possibly looking in bringing in
33:33
Speaker 6: the people who were involved in the original assassination killing.
33:37
Speaker 6: So if they get together and they can charge up
33:42
Speaker 6: this enterprise, including murder, and they can prove it, then
33:47
Speaker 6: P Diddy will never see the outside of prison.
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Speaker 1: Well here's another theory, Jens. And here's another theory. Even
33:54
Speaker 1: if they don't go so far as to prove the
33:56
Speaker 1: actual murder, there is the legal criminal compliant of conspiracy
34:02
Speaker 1: to commit more sure. Also, what about Kim Porter? Listen?
34:06
Speaker 2: Even more allegations against Sean Diddy Combs are emerging from
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Speaker 2: Combs's ex girlfriend, the late Kim Porter. Porter's friends have
34:14
Speaker 2: leaked nearly sixty pages from the diary Porter kept during
34:17
Speaker 2: her relationship with Combs in a memoir. The author of
34:20
Speaker 2: Kim's Lost words, claims. The pages were provided by a
34:24
Speaker 2: friend of Porter's who also claims to have tapes Porter
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Speaker 2: copied from Combs's files depicting Comb's having sex with a
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Speaker 2: male teenage pop star and more.
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Speaker 9: The diary pages reveal Comb's hits Porter for the first
34:36
Speaker 9: time when she refuses to use a strap on with him.
34:39
Speaker 9: Porter claims Comb's hosts quote unquote parties that are really
34:43
Speaker 9: just orgies and quote everyone wanted in. Porter details finding
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Speaker 9: Combe's vault full of videotapes of Comb's encounters, many with
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Speaker 9: young men stars he had formerly managed at Bad Boy.
34:54
Speaker 9: The author of the memoir was also provided a photo
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Speaker 9: of Porter using makeup to cover injuries Combs cause.
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Speaker 1: Does that support claims in the federal indictment that women
35:05
Speaker 1: would have to go hide out for days for their
35:09
Speaker 1: injuries to heal before they could be seen in public
35:12
Speaker 1: after a Diddy freak off. Now listen to what we
35:18
Speaker 1: hear from the defense attorney Mark Agnefello. This from our
35:23
Speaker 1: friends at C and N.
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Speaker 3: Listen, how do you defend against allegations that he hit, kicked,
35:28
Speaker 3: and dragged women when he's on video hitting, kicking, and
35:33
Speaker 3: dragging a woman.
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Speaker 5: Sure he's not charged with hitting, kicking, and dragging. Well,
35:36
Speaker 5: he's charged with sex trafficking and he didn't traffic anybody.
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Speaker 1: Okay, well, what did you hear that? Shannon Henry is
35:44
Speaker 1: so perfect from Agnafello. She says, what about beating, kicking,
35:50
Speaker 1: hitting women? And the defense attorney says, oh, well, he's
35:53
Speaker 1: not charged with that. In other words, should you believe
35:55
Speaker 1: me or your lying eyes? I mean, I saw the video, Shannon,
35:59
Speaker 1: and lawyer's doing an incredible dodge right there.
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Speaker 7: He absolutely is. And that video shows a microcosm of
36:07
Speaker 7: what the whole relationship with Cassie was. It's here's an object,
36:12
Speaker 7: I'm in control of it. I'm going to do what
36:14
Speaker 7: I want with it when I want. And that's what
36:17
Speaker 7: he did. And you know, Ditty, I'm so sick of him,
36:20
Speaker 7: I really am. And all of the playbooks that these
36:23
Speaker 7: people have, whether we're talking about Naser or Cosby or
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Speaker 7: Epstein or Weinstein, they're all on a sliding scale with
36:30
Speaker 7: all of the other rapists and pedophiles and traffickers who
36:33
Speaker 7: serve no use in our society.
36:38
Speaker 2: The former rapper Jamal Barrow breaks his silence since his
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Speaker 2: conviction and deportation for his role in the nineteen ninety
36:43
Speaker 2: nine Club New York shooting. Now a leader in the
36:46
Speaker 2: Belize House of Representatives, Barro maintains his innocence in the crime,
36:50
Speaker 2: claiming he defended Ditty in the aftermath, only for the
36:52
Speaker 2: Bad Boys founder to turn around and call witnesses to
36:56
Speaker 2: testify against me. Barro says Sean Combs basically sent him
36:59
Speaker 2: to prison and called Combs someone who ruined my life. Barrow,
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Speaker 2: just eighteen at the time, was sentenced to ten years
37:06
Speaker 2: for assault. Barrow served nine years before he was deported
37:10
Speaker 2: back to his native Belize.
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Speaker 1: Talk about charges mounting to doctor Bethany Marshall reround Psychoalys
37:16
Speaker 1: joining us out of Beverly Hills. Doctor Bethany, someone on
37:21
Speaker 1: the panel earlier said that witnesses may be more likely
37:25
Speaker 1: to come forward now because Diddy is behind bars. Now.
37:30
Speaker 1: This guy that we just heard about, former rapper Jamel Barrow,
37:35
Speaker 1: who is now leading an up and up life out
37:38
Speaker 1: of the country. Okay, he was part of the ninety
37:41
Speaker 1: nine New York club shooting and he went down for
37:44
Speaker 1: it nine years behind bars. Now he's a leader in
37:48
Speaker 1: the police House of Representatives for Pete's sake. But with
37:51
Speaker 1: Ditty behind bars, Moore is going to come out about
37:56
Speaker 1: that ninety nine shooting where a woman was actually shot.
37:59
Speaker 1: She lived, but she was shot. It implicated Jennifer Lopez.
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Speaker 1: So when we were talking about Diddy behind bars, what
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Speaker 1: how does that affect potential witnesses and victims that were
38:11
Speaker 1: afraid to come forward before you know, Nancy. It could
38:14
Speaker 1: cut both ways.
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Speaker 4: On the one hand, there could be witnesses who were
38:18
Speaker 4: afraid to come come forward because he was going to
38:20
Speaker 4: ruin their careers or put a hit out on them,
38:23
Speaker 4: or threaten them in some way. On the other hand,
38:26
Speaker 4: men like p Diddy have a preoccupation with other high
38:31
Speaker 4: net worth individuals. That's why he threw all those big parties.
38:34
Speaker 4: And I wouldn't be surprised to learn that in the
38:37
Speaker 4: context of those parties, he took celebrities aside, showed them
38:42
Speaker 4: pictures on his phone, bragged about a dungeon, bragged about
38:46
Speaker 4: sex workers there, and like a spider pulling a little
38:51
Speaker 4: fly into its web, he slowly started to implicate them.
38:55
Speaker 4: So there are a lot of people who are afraid
38:58
Speaker 4: to come forward now that all these allegations have come out,
39:01
Speaker 4: because in some way they're afraid they're going to be
39:03
Speaker 4: implicated they knew something and didn't say something about it.
39:07
Speaker 4: So we have the powerless who are were terrified and
39:12
Speaker 4: now could come forward, Nancy. We also have the power
39:16
Speaker 4: full who did know something and now are afraid what
39:20
Speaker 4: will come out about them.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Dr Bethany, you got to read this. You've
39:26
Speaker 1: got to read this. Of course you have to take
39:28
Speaker 1: it with a box of salt because it has not
39:31
Speaker 1: been authenticated yet. But this is full of celebrities that
39:37
Speaker 1: were in and out of orgies and more. Is it true.
39:41
Speaker 1: I don't know, but if it is, Hollywood is going
39:45
Speaker 1: to get a knock knock knock on the door for
39:47
Speaker 1: these people to turn into witnesses. And I want you
39:49
Speaker 1: to hear one thing, one more thing, guys, Diddy is
39:54
Speaker 1: living in an alternate universe with a very distorted self image. Listen.
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Speaker 2: Combs started hosting his famous White parties in nineteen ninety eight,
40:04
Speaker 2: and they quickly became the place to be on Labor
40:06
Speaker 2: Day and invite reinforcing your status in the entertainment industry.
40:10
Speaker 2: The parties have been hosted in the Hampton's, Beverly Hills
40:13
Speaker 2: and even Saint Tropez, France. Many have called Combs a
40:16
Speaker 2: modern day Gadsby, a nickname he relished, a.
40:19
Speaker 1: Modern day Gatsby. Okay, my head spinning this as Diddy
40:27
Speaker 1: behind bars. Boo hooo. I wonder how all of the
40:31
Speaker 1: alleged victims feel. We wait as justice unfolds, and as
40:37
Speaker 1: we head to the courtroom for ap Diddy status hearing.
40:40
Speaker 1: And one more words are the wise just recently out
40:44
Speaker 1: there a so called track from Justin Bieber about how
40:48
Speaker 1: he lost his life his reputation at a Diddy party.
40:52
Speaker 1: That's not real. That's Ai generated an'sy grace signing off
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Speaker 1: good night
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