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Indiana-Kentucky Preview with Grant Shouse & Mike Hutsell (2.110.1) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

• 0:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Look back, I use fans to a special edition of the IU report here on this Friday is tomorrow one Saturday.
• 0:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Got a big one coming.
• 0:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: One of the most anticipated IU games basketball wise of the last few years, it was announced a few years ago that the series between Indiana and Kentucky is coming back and it is back
• 0:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: And Mike, I got to tell you man, the two coaches that scheduled the series, Mike Woods and a giant calipary scheduled this knowing they would probably not be around.
• 0:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so I'm glad they're still playing this thing.
• 0:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's one of the best rivalries in college basketball, and just just something to look forward to here, and just gotta hope that Indiana can come out on the right side of things.
• 0:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, historically this is,
• 1:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: If you take Purdue out of the equation, I think historically you can say this is Indiana's biggest rivalry, especially in a non-conference setting.
• 1:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: The history between these two schools, they go back so far, there's been great games between played between the two of them.
• 1:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: Bob Knight versus Jobi Hall, two all-time great coaches who have faced off against each other.
• 1:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: And we all know that the recent history of Indiana basketball is not been great.
• 1:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it's been a little one sided since they, since they played it here in recent terms, but Indiana won two of the last three and famously the reason that this game went away was because Indiana had the audacity.
• 1:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: to knock off King John Calapari and one of your favorite moments in the history of the rivalry grant, the one that Indiana fans won't let go of is the Christian Wattford three pointer at the buzzer and then the fans might.
• 2:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Here's my fan.
• 2:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: If it tells you how young I am, that's like one of my first memories of Indiana basketball.
• 2:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: I understand and in the reason Kentucky took it's ball and went home is because Cal thought that team was going to be a 40 and O team and then they had the audacity to get excited about winning the damn game.
• 2:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: Cal didn't like playing on other teams home courts.
• 2:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, he's still screaming.
• 2:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was wide it.
• 2:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: You foul.
• 2:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're what, why didn't you
• 2:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: That was 2011, right?
• 2:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 2:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: In 14 years, that moment has morphed from in the FN storm the court to Indiana fans trampled the Kentucky entire roster.
• 3:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: because I was just reading about this over the last weekend, Kentucky fans like stomped and trampled Anthony Davis and Darious Miller.
• 3:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: There was a UK fan who wanted to be in playboy who said she got her arm broke by the trampling of Indiana fans.
• 3:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Kentucky fans said they got quarter like entire roles of quarters, which seems like assault.
• 3:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: they got those thrown at them and the players got hit with them during the game.
• 3:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't remember any of this actually happening, but this is the lore, the folklore of this rivalry, and what it is morphed to in the 14 years since it has been regularly played.
• 3:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: Of course, we all know Indiana won that game in December, 2012, they played in March and the sweet 16 in Atlanta,
• 3:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: In a game that I think ended about 166 to 186, it was one of the most crazy offensive slugfest I've ever seen in college basketball, but Kentucky came out ahead on that when a team that shot 65% from the free throw line hit like 40 or 46 free throws or something crazy in that game.
• 4:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then Cal took his ball and went home.
• 4:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: They didn't play for a few years and then the
• 4:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: NCAA March Manus Gods put them in the same region.
• 4:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: So there was a four, five matchup in 2016 between Tom Creen's last actual good team at Indiana.
• 4:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: And Kentucky and Indiana came out of head on that one.
• 4:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: So going into this, going into this game on Saturday, Indiana actually holds the last win in the series, which is people probably forget that.
• 4:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Here's my thing, Mike, is I wanted to point this out.
• 4:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know where you stand on this.
• 4:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: And not that it really matters.
• 4:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: They've just kind of been thinking about this, is that Indiana won that game at assembly hall on the watch shot.
• 5:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: They won the game.
• 5:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that has to be the greatest court storming in college basketball history.
• 5:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like just the way the people came out of the stands, they came out and drove, what it meant at the time for the program, I'm with you on where it should not be celebrated the way that
• 5:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: it has been since it happened.
• 5:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's cool to remember it on the anniversary that it happened.
• 5:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I believe one of these games here in the next few years will occur on the anniversary that it happened.
• 5:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if it's next year, but it's one of the, it's one of the few times that they're gonna meet here at least in the next three years.
• 5:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's cool to remember it on the day it happened.
• 6:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: it's another moment in this great rivalry and I don't think it should be as celebrated as it has, but I do think that it was such a momentum chifter for the program at the time.
• 6:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: The program had been in the depths of hell, the program had been wrecked, the wheels that fallen off the bus and Creen was trying to build that thing back up.
• 6:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he did, and that was one of the first signs that people taking notice that, hey, like Indian basketballs, as good as it has been in almost 15 years.
• 6:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I think it's cool in that regard, but I don't think it should be as celebrated as it has been.
• 6:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Did people get trampled, probably?
• 6:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I hate to say this, I don't care.
• 6:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's the part of it.
• 6:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you didn't want to get trampled, then you should have won the game.
• 6:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of like, you know, plant the flag.
• 6:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: It made field of fun.
• 7:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you don't want the flag planted at midfield, don't lose the game.
• 7:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: You don't want it.
• 7:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: You don't want the court stormed on you.
• 7:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: You don't want trampled after the game.
• 7:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: When the freaking game, man, that's what I think about it.
• 7:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, the the biggest issue I had is don't give me a lot.
• 7:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: I love the moment.
• 7:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: I did.
• 7:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: I remember exactly where I was when it happened.
• 7:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: I remember holding my son and he's lucky he'd.
• 7:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: doesn't long-term dramatic brain injury be that I threw them through the ceiling when that happened because it was just such a cathartic moment because like you said Indiana had been in the absolute abyss of college basketball coming out of the Samsung thing going playing baseball players for two years and then they finally built it all back to beat the number one team in
• 7:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Kentucky obviously moved on.
• 7:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: They won the national championship a few months later.
• 7:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: It almost feels to me like, you know, you never really fully moved on from that moment.
• 8:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was like, yeah, we made it back.
• 8:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: We beat Kentucky.
• 8:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is great.
• 8:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to commemorate this 14 freaking years later.
• 8:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it's sad.
• 8:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: And Kentucky hasn't been a great program in the last,
• 8:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's almost since the rivalry went away since the last time they played in 2016.
• 8:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: The two programs have kind of just, they've been there.
• 8:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: They haven't been what you expect.
• 8:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: Kentucky had some good teams.
• 8:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: They went to the Elite 8 and Tyler Hero, that team, that group.
• 8:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Kentucky fans will tell you they would have won the title in the COVID season because of the team they had that year, but who knows every team in college basketball will tell you they would have won the title that year, because you never know who actually would have won, but like Kentucky has been, yeah, they've been a tournament team.
• 9:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: in this decade, but they've outside of our friends in West Lafayette, they have some of the most humiliating losses in the NCAA tournament.
• 9:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 9:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: In the last, you know, we don't know Jack Golky is if it isn't for John Calipari.
• 9:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: St. Peter's doesn't beat, it doesn't make Purdue the only team to ever lose in the sweet 16 to a 15 seed because they don't beat
• 9:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: Number two see Kentucky in the first round if it's not for John Kelly part Kentucky was not they went years without an NCAA tournament win and they didn't make the sweet 16
• 9:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: again until last season.
• 9:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: That was the first time this decade, I think, since they that they made a sweet 16 run and then they get worked by an arch rival in Indianapolis that night.
• 9:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't close.
• 9:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then you look at what's going on this year with this year's Kentucky team.
• 10:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: They've got issues.
• 10:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: and and based on some of the things we won't get into much on the iU podcast but they're having in iL issues that can tuck you that like you just don't even it's realize how bad things seem to be right now.
• 10:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: So this rivalry, as much as Kentucky fans make fun of Indiana and say, we don't need to play Indiana.
• 10:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: These two programs have not been what you know them as.
• 10:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: Since they stopped playing each other.
• 10:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Since they stopped playing each other, it's getting back on the schedule.
• 10:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's it's cool to see it back.
• 10:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: The ironic thing is calipar never wanted to play it on a home court.
• 10:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's on a home court on Saturday.
• 10:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: I wish it wasn't.
• 10:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think we need to go about it would be so cool to be playing.
• 10:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: in a setting like we saw last Saturday when they play Louisville and Indianapolis, if you had an opportunity to play this game, 50, 50 split the tickets and play it on a neutral court, because getting it back and seeing it on the court again is going to be cool to see.
• 11:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, next year, it will be on a neutral court.
• 11:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're playing it.
• 11:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're playing at Lucas oil stadium next year.
• 11:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: and you could tell with the way it was scheduled, where Kentucky got to home court games, they were playing at a neutral site for one, and then in 2029, it said assembly hall.
• 11:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: You just knew Calipary was not going to be around it, Kentucky.
• 11:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, he's he's schedule this thing knowing full well.
• 11:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: He was never setting foot back in Bloomington, Indiana.
• 11:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he was obvious
• 11:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: The only way he could get it scheduled was if they played one of those as a neutral site game, and that's the one next to your Lucas loyal.
• 11:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think with the change in leadership, you would hope that
• 12:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: between now and when that between now and the start of next year that they announced that that game is not going to be played at Lucas oil.
• 12:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be played a game bridge or it is going to be played at Bloomington.
• 12:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's just kind of a crap thing to play that at Lucas oil stadium.
• 12:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: I get it.
• 12:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: You'd probably sell more tickets than everything.
• 12:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just don't know it would have the vibe in a football stadium and it not be a sweet 16, a lead eight game or a final four game in a big football stadium like that.
• 12:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just, I'm not a big fan of that.
• 12:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: I hope it, I'd rather see it play it.
• 12:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you're gonna play it on a neutral floor, play it, gain bridge, play it, free them haul down in lieuable.
• 12:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that'd be a great thing.
• 12:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: great you obviously didn't grow up on this rivalry the way that I did because they played it was every year.
• 12:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: One year it was up to Hoosier Dome, the RCA Dome, which is a football stadium and then it was at Freedom Hall.
• 12:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it was 50-50.
• 12:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: There was almost a Mason Dixon line of sorts.
• 12:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: You could see blue, blue, blue, blue, blue, blue, blue, blue.
• 13:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's an aisle that is Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red Red
• 13:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: it was so cool man.
• 13:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: If you ever got to experience it live, I got to see it as a fan, I got to see it as media.
• 13:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was at the game where Mike Davis famously, I was sitting court side.
• 13:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was not that far for me when Mike Davis famously ran out on the court to get
• 13:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: on what would have been a game-clenching bucket.
• 13:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: And Mike Davis gets like three technicals, Kentucky ends up winning.
• 13:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was there.
• 13:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I gave us right in front, I was looking at my laptop.
• 13:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: I look up at Mike Davis's 25 feet for me, slapping his fate.
• 13:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, what in the hell is he doing right now?
• 13:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: He is, yeah.
• 14:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Mike, Mike that was the moment Billy Packer, God rest his soul, who hated Indiana, hated night, hit just hated everything about Indiana, was going on a big thing, oh well Mike Davis that's just a young coach, you can't control his emotions, he should be thrown out of this game, and I, I seen that clip and that's the one of Billy Packer losing his mind during the game.
• 14:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: The ironic thing about calipari being so vehemently against this rivalry being on campus is Kentucky's the reason it moved to campus.
• 14:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Indiana, and Mike Davis's last season, they played at the RCA dome, Kentucky was one of Tubby Smith's worst teams ever that year.
• 14:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: They had guys suspended awaiting NTA eligibility issues.
• 15:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it was Indiana held the, held the advantage in the rivalry.
• 15:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: And they hired Kellon Sampson, Indiana looked like they were going to have a better team than Kentucky.
• 15:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: All of a sudden, like, Freedom Hall's not available.
• 15:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was the weirdest damn thing.
• 15:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Kentucky's like, guys, we can't get freedom all this year.
• 15:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to have to play it, Rub.
• 15:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: Our bad.
• 15:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: We didn't, we didn't reserve the room.
• 15:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: And they go to Rob, Indiana loses a closed game.
• 15:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: We'll Kentucky to their credit did say, we'll give you a game at assembly hall next year.
• 15:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Indiana blew them out.
• 15:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't close.
• 15:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: But the reason the game went, and then like when people saw the games on campus, they're like, okay, this is kind of cool.
• 15:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is like how it was in the 80s.
• 15:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: Before we moved to the neutral site, let's Indiana goes to Kentucky with Tijon, Joe, but Tom, Richard, and a couple baseball players
• 16:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: and california saying that.
• 16:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Wow, Indiana loses, Indiana is down like 28 to 2 in that game.
• 16:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it was just an absolute boat race.
• 16:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was disgusting to watch.
• 16:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Then Indiana and Kentucky comes in in an exterior.
• 16:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: Wattford's a freshman Maurice Creek puts up like 30 points.
• 16:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's a close game at half time Kentucky pulls away.
• 16:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: That was like John Wallstein.
• 16:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: That was one of the great college basketball teams of all time that doesn't end up winning an national title because it's John Calipari.
• 16:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: So they go to the go to campus sites and then in 2000, you know, in 2011, any and a famously wins at the buzzer and cows like now, we're done, we're done playing.
• 16:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: We don't want to do this anymore.
• 16:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: So one of the coolest, like, non-conference rivalries of all time goes away because
• 16:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: of a hissy fit.
• 16:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Cal gets a series of gets bailer after that doesn't win any of the games which I absolutely found hilarious.
• 17:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: He got bailer to agree to the play a game in Dallas rather than on campus.
• 17:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Baylor blows them out in Dallas, then they go to rub the next year because of course he got them to come to his own court.
• 17:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Guess who wins that game?
• 17:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: Not Cal.
• 17:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: I know a lot obviously about this rivalry.
• 17:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: I couldn't talk about this all the time.
• 17:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think that they're playing around.
• 17:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: You lived in a Tay Day.
• 17:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I only have maybe a few memories of it.
• 17:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because it started to go away when I really just kind of became conscious about how you basketball.
• 17:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: I did just watch that video of as you were talking.
• 17:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was listening, but as you were talking, I watched that video of my Davis's meltdown there at the end of the game against Kentucky.
• 17:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was funny, they're playing that game.
• 17:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm assuming that game was at Freedom Hall, right?
• 17:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Is that Freedom Hall as a Saturday game?
• 18:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they're playing it on the floor every year.
• 18:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're playing it on Louisville's court, which is, I think, kind of funny.
• 18:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: I hope the series can continue to keep doing and keep going, I guess, not doing, keep going.
• 18:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: They've come a long way since the Tom Creen days.
• 18:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like the last coach, the coach against Kentucky Remindy Anna was Tom Creen.
• 18:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: That puts it into perspective how long it's been.
• 18:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Our team never got to coach against them.
• 18:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Probably a good thing.
• 18:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Mike Woods has never got a chance to.
• 18:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: And now Darren DeVries gets a chance to.
• 18:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think Darren DeVries grown up in the Midwest
• 18:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: wasn't an Indiana fan, but they think maybe kind of followed it.
• 18:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: New, new what was going on just because you were in the in the Midwest at the time, and you knew what Indiana basketball was, I think he probably get to it.
• 18:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we know Mark Pope get to the former Kentucky player.
• 18:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: A problem is, is there a population?
• 19:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Pope lived it, and played a Kentucky.
• 19:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: The problem is with big blue nation who is the worst fan base in in college basketball.
• 19:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: They are the Ohio State fans, I don't know man, but they all have sports spirit.
• 19:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yankee fans are right there, there are some.
• 19:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: They are like the Ohio State fans of college basketball, like they're just the worst.
• 19:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: The expectation is
• 19:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: just unrealistic every single year and for them to
• 19:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: basically right off Mark Pope this early into his tenure because they're like, what like, six and four right now is just as just sad.
• 19:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Give the guy a chance.
• 20:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's one of your own ads.
• 20:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's a bad six and hey, it's a bad six and four, man.
• 20:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: I live here.
• 20:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: I have seen this team play and I want to go on the record.
• 20:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: because it's likely that their fans are going to find this, because they find everything.
• 20:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: You guys are the UK basketball, like, that's YouTube.
• 20:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: I work amongst enough UK fans, and I, I'm not gonna say I like them.
• 20:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I live among them and I don't find them nearly as bad as some other fan bases, especially in my region, and I won't say specifically who, but they're the worst.
• 20:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't, obviously, I don't like them.
• 20:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think the most visceral hatred for Kentucky started because of Bob Knight.
• 20:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Bob Knight didn't like Purdue.
• 21:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, you know what, Bob Knight and Jean Fadies hated product.
• 21:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: Bob Knight and Jean Cady respect in each other as much as they know as as big arrivals as they were.
• 21:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Bob Knight did the thing, but the donkey and the Purdue hat, which was hilarious and Purdue fans obviously don't, but the two rivals didn't like each other, but they respect to each other.
• 21:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Bob Knight, Essin, hated, Joby Hall.
• 21:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: because everything that, everything that you didn't hear at all in the world that he was.
• 21:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody in every bad thing that you ever heard about college athletics in the 70s and 80s, the $100 handshakes, the back room, dealings like Kentucky, that was Kentucky.
• 21:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: Part of the reason they've struggled recently is because everybody's doing what they did for decades.
• 21:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: People start paying players.
• 21:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: The playing field got awful level of a sudden for Kentucky basketball.
• 22:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and
• 22:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: Kentucky beat that team, and I know that that absolutely gutted Bob Knight to lose it an undefeated season and to lose that semi-final ticket and turkey, and then they come or act the next season, obviously.
• 22:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: According to Fred Glass and his goofy promotion, 1976 in the, you know, NCA's all-time March madness team, I wish to God they'd take that banner down because I think it's a curse.
• 22:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: But Bob Knight hated Kentucky so much and I think that's why the rivalry became what it was.
• 22:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now that it's back on the schedule, I think it's a great thing.
• 22:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's so hilarious to hear Kentucky fans say, well, Indiana doesn't matter.
• 22:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Indiana's a relevant, because they talk a lot more about how a relevant Indiana is than Indiana talks about Kentucky.
• 23:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: How can we be so irrelevant when you guys are talking amongst each other about how irrelevant we are in a conversation where we aren't even involved?
• 23:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: We haven't really talked about the game itself as much as we talked about the history of this series.
• 23:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm fine with that.
• 23:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what to expect from this week's game because both teams are absolutely schizophrenic.
• 23:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: Kentucky hasn't played a really competitive game against a good power.
• 23:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I take that back.
• 23:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: They played a competitive game against North Carolina.
• 23:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: But they also hit one field goal over the last 13 minutes of that game.
• 23:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Kentucky went from the 13-minute mark of the North Carolina game to about the 10-minute mark of the Gonzaga game, which was the next game, and hit like three field goals in a 20-minute stretch.
• 23:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was crazy.
• 23:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's how offensively challenge the steam can be.
• 23:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: They can't shoot.
• 24:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: They don't
• 24:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: prolific three-point shooter.
• 24:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: They've spent a lot of money, but they don't seem to have a guy that you can just say, we're absolutely need a bucket right now.
• 24:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Go get it for us.
• 24:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: The best player mate you're guiding, Colin Chandler, who is, he's a nice player, but he would be the fourth best player at Duke.
• 24:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: But at the same time, I can see we're in the in a mace struggle against this team because they have athletes and they have a guy and like a no take away the SEC preseason player of the year.
• 24:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's going to be a hard guard for a knee and a basket for Indiana.
• 24:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: I will tell you that right now.
• 24:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: He can absolutely muscle most guys on any esteem.
• 24:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to guess and I drive to the basket.
• 24:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: The thing about Kentucky and we talked about it a little bit on the IU report is if any of you can go in there Hit four or five for reason the first few minutes get Kentucky down This fan base is going to revolt against Mark Pope at home and you said that it got a sight They did it in Nashville.
• 25:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: They could do it a lot more
• 25:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: in rub.
• 25:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: And if they can make Kentucky feel uneasy, if they can turn that fan base a little bit nervous.
• 25:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: I really like their chances.
• 25:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I agree with you.
• 25:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I just really, really hope that Indiana can get that win.
• 25:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: That'll be that'll be a nice boost after what they did last week against Minnesota and Louisville and then to bounce back the
• 25:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: against Penn State where you know score 100 and what team points and 13 points.
• 25:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 25:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my, well, for some more.
• 25:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: hits the school record 10 threes and broke the assembly hall record for an IU player in the process and play like 24 minutes.
• 26:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's the amazing thing.
• 26:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: He did all that in my two free throws on two free throws and 24 minutes played.
• 26:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was pretty wild to watch.
• 26:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, I just wanted to point this out for Indiana fans listing that Saturday night when snowmageddon comes rolling in through Indiana round two of it depending on where you're listing like Mike, I think you guys are going to get you guys are going to get hammered with snow here overnight it's looking that way and up here we're going to we're going to get like like an edge of it like we're not going to get much where I'm at.
• 26:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: But when the second round comes through and games are canceled and you're snowed in and you can't go anywhere.
• 27:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: tune in, watch this game.
• 27:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Charles Barkley's on the call, making his debut, Dick Fytal, who, his voice is kind of been synonymous with this game, over the years, especially the 2011 game.
• 27:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: He, of course, not the same Dick Fytal that he was, you know, 35, 40 years ago.
• 27:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: But the fact that the guy still out there calling game after beating cancer,
• 27:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think like three or four times, three or four, five times.
• 27:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: The guys still out there calling games which is pretty impressive and they'll be on the call there, Saturday night, and then you get to flip over and watch the Heisman trophy ceremony and hopefully watch Fernando Mendoza win the Heisman.
• 27:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Be the first guy you football player to ever win the Heisman.
• 27:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: So could be a good night Saturday night could make up for the crap weather.
• 27:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to get it.
• 27:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm looking forward to it.
• 27:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm hoping for two Indiana wins in terms of Mendoza win in the Heisman and then Indiana Bass, while knock it off Kentucky on the road.
• 28:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: And Grant, you may have left out the most important thing about all of that.
• 28:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: What, at the Heisman ceremony?
• 28:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: Pavia's mom.
• 28:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, I'm sure you guys, at least Mike, I don't know about Greg read the letter for Nando Mendoza's mom wrote that got published very, very touching letter.
• 28:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Very awesome to read that.
• 28:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that can be the word again, very incredible.
• 28:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I was so touched by it.
• 28:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: I subscribed to Pavia's mom's only fans, it was crazy.
• 28:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I used to work for Mike and it was like that all of the time.
• 28:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much to Grant and Mike for joining me to talk to him.
• 28:51
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