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Weirdest Celebrity Busts, Part II: Mr. David Lee Roth and a Drunken John Wayne · Ridiculous History

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Speaker 1: Fellow Ridiculous historians. This is part two of our two
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Speaker 1: part series with our new colleagues and friends of the show,
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Speaker 1: the host of Ridiculous Crime. We're very excited. We wanted
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Speaker 1: to give you a quick disclaimer though, if you is
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Speaker 1: a two part disclaimer, right, This is part two of
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Speaker 1: our two part disclaimer. Um, the same goes for the
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Speaker 1: first one. I don't think much is different here, but
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Speaker 1: we just thought he has a courtesy reminds you that
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Speaker 1: there are a couple of little techy glitches that we
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Speaker 1: ran into, but super Producer Max mainly spend everything out.
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Speaker 1: You probably won't even notice. We're probably overthinking it, but
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Speaker 1: here we are. Disclaimer part two. Listen at your own peril.
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Speaker 1: Actually it'll be more like your own elate, elatedness. It's
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Speaker 1: a great episode. Yeah, we can't we cannot wait to
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Speaker 1: uh ruin uh several several notable Hollywood celebrities for you.
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Speaker 1: But we get into some really interesting history here as well.
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Speaker 1: And I think it's a great taste of what what
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Speaker 1: are friends over Ridiculous Crime doing. I mean, I don't
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Speaker 1: know about Ruin when it comes to Diamond Dave, my friend.
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Speaker 1: Oh that's true. No, there's a redemption arc here. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: If anything, that guy is even more holy in my eyes.
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Speaker 1: So welcome to the show, folks. We can't wait for
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Speaker 1: you to hear us get converted to the to the
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Speaker 1: Church of Mr David Lee Roth courtesy of Elizabeth Dutton
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Speaker 1: and no you you in this one. You introduced me
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Speaker 1: to uh hilarious side of John Wayne that I wasn't
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Speaker 1: aware of most people won't stay Ben Bullen, that guy
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Speaker 1: is the biggest John Wayne fan. But also I think
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Speaker 1: we had some good voices in this one, I hope
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Speaker 1: so John and John Wayne voice isn't the easiest one
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Speaker 1: in the place. I do have to say that a
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Speaker 1: little peak behind my personal curtain, I have a very
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Speaker 1: small bust of John Wayne on one of my turntable speakers.
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Speaker 1: It was given to me by a friend years ago.
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Speaker 1: It's like one of those weird thrist store fines and
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Speaker 1: part of his hat is chipped off. But he's just
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Speaker 1: too cool to take down. Uh, just like these podcast
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Speaker 1: episodes were too good not to put out because of
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Speaker 1: a silly old recording glitch. So here you go. Ridiculous
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Speaker 1: History is a production of I Heart Radio. Welcome back
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Speaker 1: to the show Ridiculous historians. Thank you, as always so
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Speaker 1: much for tuning in. That's the one and only Mr
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Speaker 1: Max Williams. That's the one and only Mr Dave Kustan Dave,
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Speaker 1: super producers both. We are not going to explain why
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Speaker 1: that's the case just yet, because we already did that
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Speaker 1: bit in part one of Weirdest Celebrity Bust. Uh they
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Speaker 1: call me Ben Noel. We are doing it, man. We
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Speaker 1: did an intentional two part Yeah, the second time this season.
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Speaker 1: Whatever that means, I said that last time. I don't
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Speaker 1: know what it means still, but sticking to it. So
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Speaker 1: first things first, folks, please check out part one of
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Speaker 1: this two part series. It is worth your time, especially,
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Speaker 1: I would say, the end, which is not brought to
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Speaker 1: you by Uh Noel or yours truly, It is instead
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Speaker 1: a series of fantastic points made by our guest today,
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Speaker 1: the creators of Ridiculous Crime, Elizabeth Dutton and Zaren Burnett.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming back to the show. You know, after
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Speaker 1: part one, Max and Noel and I were like, are
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Speaker 1: they gonna are they going to come back? Oh? We're here,
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Speaker 1: came back? Ye back, Hey, fellas, we missed you. In
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Speaker 1: the moment of me, I'm just going to keep hovering
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Speaker 1: in your studio. It's been mere moments. Yeah, I'm actually
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Speaker 1: your closet right now. Oh how full of stuff? By
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Speaker 1: the way, do your laundry? So yes, thank you so
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Speaker 1: much for coming back, uh in closets in studios on
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Speaker 1: the show today, we were excited. We previously we previously
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Speaker 1: explored the time, the life and times, i should say,
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Speaker 1: of known drug smuggler Richard Nixon. We have also looked
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Speaker 1: at this strange story of the early celebrity scandal of
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Speaker 1: Roscoe R. Buckle, a K. Fatty R. Buckle, And today
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Speaker 1: we're returning to a broader theme, but we're going for
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Speaker 1: something completely different. Now, Elizabeth, I am. I don't know
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Speaker 1: about you know, but I don't know where this this
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Speaker 1: tale will take us. I'm fine, kind of blind, Elizabeth.
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Speaker 1: You've found when we're both buddy, I have none. Okay,
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Speaker 1: So Elizabeth, you're going to improvise a weird celebrity bus
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Speaker 1: and she's busting the celebrity right this second. We'll have
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Speaker 1: updates just one second. Uh, we can use that telegraph
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Speaker 1: noise from last episode. So, Elizabeth, where are we going today?
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Speaker 1: We're going to nine, my friend, and that's the year
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Speaker 1: the place Washington Square Park in New York City. Now,
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Speaker 1: I'll stop and explain that on ridiculous crime we and
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Speaker 1: I say we have, but it's more me. But we
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Speaker 1: like to do these imagination experiments. And when I'm telling
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Speaker 1: our our tales, we like to root each other and
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Speaker 1: the listener in a time and place and we sort
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Speaker 1: of make them picture where we are. And we both
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Speaker 1: do that. I tend to put Zaren and producer Dave
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Speaker 1: into my situations, and that's something to do today. So,
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Speaker 1: and we're all hanging out in Washington Square Park in
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Speaker 1: New York. So Saron sitting over on a bench just
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Speaker 1: feeding pigeons himself. I don't even know. Ben. You know
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Speaker 1: you're pushing your ice cream cart cream. It's really you know,
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Speaker 1: you're doing your best. We got we got a rude
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Speaker 1: Vega beat flavor. Can I be frolicking in a fountain? You? Yes?
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Speaker 1: How did you know you're in the fountain? You're frolicking
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Speaker 1: and people are avoiding eye contact? You dolphin boy, care
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Speaker 1: for some potato favor ice cream? Max Dave playing chess
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Speaker 1: over the table right, and Zara's just muttering to himself.
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Speaker 1: So there you are. And then this gentleman comes comes
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Speaker 1: strolling through the park and he talks to another fella.
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Speaker 1: They kind of hush hush, whisper handoff. There's a handoff
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Speaker 1: between them, and then the cops descend. Now that first
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Speaker 1: gentleman strolling along is none other than Mr Dave Aavid
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Speaker 1: Lee Ross at this point, formerly of the band Van
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Speaker 1: Halen a little points. So I just need to explain
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Speaker 1: this to you that the only research I did on
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Speaker 1: this story was putting on the Edam and Smile record
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Speaker 1: and standing on the corner outside my house and doing
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Speaker 1: high kicks and like Shallon moves and a Paris spandex
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Speaker 1: pants channel. But I have it all now, I have
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Speaker 1: all the knowledge on it. The story is not coming through.
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Speaker 1: I'm just channeling maybe a little bit, a little bit.
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Speaker 1: So Mr David Lee Roth, he's in the park, he
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Speaker 1: goes up to a guy. He buys a ten dollar
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Speaker 1: bag of weed. Ten dollars, that's it. That's what the
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Speaker 1: kids call a dime bag, a dime bag exactly, so
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Speaker 1: he had ten on it. He goes through, buys a
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Speaker 1: bag of weed, and um, the cops show up. They
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Speaker 1: arrest him, They arrest the the dealer and when this
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Speaker 1: was part of a sweep, and it was a sweep
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Speaker 1: that was called Operation Doubleheader. Operation Doubleheader. Why it just
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Speaker 1: sounds dirty. I did not go with Operation Jump might
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Speaker 1: as well well Hello Panama is like right, yeah, So
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Speaker 1: Operation Doubleheader. The day that they arrest Mr David Lee Ross,
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Speaker 1: they pinched thirty eight people that day. Wow, Operation Running
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Speaker 1: with the Devil. Plenty of them were drug dealers. One
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Speaker 1: of those dealers had been arrested a hundred times that year,
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Speaker 1: a hundred times. So who's good or bad at their job?
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Speaker 1: Or the cops are him? They sound like we keep
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Speaker 1: arresting him getting arrested. Yeah, maybe there's you know, like
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Speaker 1: there's a semiotic relationship. I like to picture weird uh
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Speaker 1: romantic situation, you know, could be Yeah, it's a persistent
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Speaker 1: meat cute. They're just like, one day we're gonna work this.
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Speaker 1: So and I love hate relationship. They know we talked
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Speaker 1: about We talked about weed with Louis Armstrong, known drug
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Speaker 1: mule Richard Nix of you love stories about drugs. I
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Speaker 1: love talking about every morning I wake up and I
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Speaker 1: hope there's one in the news. All I do is
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Speaker 1: talk about drugs. What's your favorite celebrity drug bus story.
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Speaker 1: I can't even limit it to my favorite. May like
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Speaker 1: you can just start naming up people like, oh, Willie Nelson,
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Speaker 1: But I think actually my favorite is the Sierra Blanca
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Speaker 1: border patrol stopped. It was normally used to be known
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Speaker 1: as the Checkpoint of the Stars because they had these
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Speaker 1: by the West Texas at by El Paso, and they
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Speaker 1: had the spot where tour buses always get popped with drugs.
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Speaker 1: And Willie Nelson got caught with pounds of weed. Snoop
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Speaker 1: Dogg got popped there, Fiona Apple got popped there, Nelly
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Speaker 1: got caught there. Now they got this new sheriff who
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Speaker 1: has a sign over his door. His name is Siff
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Speaker 1: arm And West, and the sign over his door says
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Speaker 1: boss Hog. Now, if you can believe it, this dude,
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Speaker 1: boss Hog is going the other way. He's decided, you
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Speaker 1: know what, I'm not gonna waste taxpayers money on busting celebrities.
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Speaker 1: And I quote, I don't have a problem what who
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Speaker 1: whatsoever going out there and arresting them. I just have
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Speaker 1: a problem making my local taxpayers foot the bill for
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Speaker 1: America's problem. I'm not going to do the federal government's job.
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Speaker 1: So open seasoned tour buses. You guys can roll through
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Speaker 1: Texas again. But see they're moving weight and quality. Quantity
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Speaker 1: and quality. Yeah, that's true. Pound David Lee Roth is neither.
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Speaker 1: Is he just like quantity nor quality? Okay, okay, just
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Speaker 1: so I understand. I'm sure we'll get to this. What
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Speaker 1: what what side of the transaction is he on? Is
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Speaker 1: he like getting fired from my dream band? Is at
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Speaker 1: this point in David Lee Roth is no longer the
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Speaker 1: front man of Van Halen. I think we're in the
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Speaker 1: Van Hagar years at this point. Okay, So and Gary
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Speaker 1: her own Wow, I forgot. I think everybody else did too.
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Speaker 1: So we have we have David Lee Roth. Now he
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Speaker 1: had that as I the aforementioned Edam and Smile record,
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Speaker 1: he'd gone solo, he wrote an autobiography. This is this
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Speaker 1: guy has done pretty much everything. He's traveling. Okays, because
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Speaker 1: he played himself in an episode of So exactly. The
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Speaker 1: comment about how he could write off condoms is like
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Speaker 1: a tax write off. Well and the guy I mean,
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Speaker 1: just providing more backstory about Mr David Lee Roth. He
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Speaker 1: was so notorious for his groupie activities that he had
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Speaker 1: a a rewards program for his roadies who could go
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Speaker 1: out and fetch gals from the audience and given five passes.
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Speaker 1: And I suppose the past was marked with you know,
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Speaker 1: their initials, and the lucky woman he would note whose
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Speaker 1: roadies initials were on there and give him a hundred
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Speaker 1: dollars and then there's all. There are also stories that
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Speaker 1: when Van Halen was on the road in the early
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Speaker 1: eighties that they had a doctor who was constantly prescribing
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Speaker 1: antibiotics because they STDs were rampant on those. So there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of accent antibiotics in my vitamins. David Lee
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Speaker 1: Roth is this absolute showman, and he's super sexual, but
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Speaker 1: not I don't think in like a menacing way. No,
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Speaker 1: I don't know, there's a there's a very kind of
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Speaker 1: strange I don't know. He seems like I just imagined obviously,
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Speaker 1: not I've never imagined this before, but I would imagine
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Speaker 1: if somebody was to get busy with David Lee Roth,
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Speaker 1: he would be sitting there on like you know, the
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Speaker 1: tour bus couch, waiting for them to come to him,
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Speaker 1: you know, like here lie upon my David Lee Roth nous.
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Speaker 1: But he would not be pressing himself on them he's
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Speaker 1: not like thirsty necessarily, it's a tur vibe, you know, exactly.
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Speaker 1: So we have Mr David Lee Roth and I keep
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Speaker 1: calling him Mr David Lee Roth because Zarin invented a
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Speaker 1: game called Mr David Lee Ross. We we've decided that
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Speaker 1: David Lee Roth is a good benchmark for a rock
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Speaker 1: showman in terms of the lead singer. He's really got
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Speaker 1: it all. He's like, what almost a four and a
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Speaker 1: half octive range, and like I said, an incredible showman
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Speaker 1: on stage, believable high kick, yeah, great lyricist, great presentation.
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Speaker 1: And so we have him as the as our benchmark. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: he's the Mendoza line for rock stars. And then you
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Speaker 1: name other frontmen and you decide are they in the
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Speaker 1: top five above Mr David Lee Roth or are they below?
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Speaker 1: Where do they? Where do they rate on the David
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Speaker 1: Lee Roth line? Where did Gary Sharone fall into that?
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Speaker 1: Specary Sharon? He's far below the line ranks. I mean
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Speaker 1: nothing against him. And you know the nuns, who's another one?
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Speaker 1: Give me another one? Boys? Oh gosh, let's see. How
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Speaker 1: about Freddie Mercury. I would put him a MA maybe
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Speaker 1: one not Yeah, I'd say definitely above. I think we
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Speaker 1: can all agree he's above David above and below Super Dave.
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Speaker 1: Do you have one for me? Uh? Joe Cocker, Oh
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Speaker 1: my god, Joe Cocke. It's different man, right, Like he's
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Speaker 1: not really theatrical, but he's got gravitas. I'm gonna have
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Speaker 1: to put him below Diamond David. He's in a different
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Speaker 1: class really, Like, yeah, he's like Janis Choplin. He's just
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Speaker 1: on a different different stuff. But I mean, but I
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Speaker 1: would agree wasn't well, well, how many of them were? Well?
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Speaker 1: I think David Lee Roth made it work for himself,
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Speaker 1: you know, like I think he had he really has,
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Speaker 1: he really has. So we got we got Diamond Dave
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Speaker 1: living this wildlife and there he is in the park
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Speaker 1: putting ten dollars down on what he himself later refers
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Speaker 1: to as um Jamaican bunk reefer. I think I bought
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Speaker 1: some of that same guy, that same bunk. Doesn't that
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Speaker 1: I mean it was like fake or just not very good.
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Speaker 1: I think it was. It was low quality. It's like
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Speaker 1: ditch a lot of seeds and stuff not to derailation.
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Speaker 1: Like why is David Lee Rod buying his own park weed?
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Speaker 1: You know, like that is the questions. A man of
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Speaker 1: the people. He's just through the city. Now. The thing is,
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Speaker 1: he's also did you know that fun fact about Mr
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Speaker 1: David b Roth. He's a kayaker and outdoorsman, and he
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Speaker 1: knows some people in Manhattan who own a kayak store,
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Speaker 1: and he convinced them to cut a hole in the
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Speaker 1: fence and get the kayaks down to the Hudson River
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Speaker 1: and go kayaking. And the police would yell at them
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Speaker 1: to come back, and they're like, you can't catch us.
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Speaker 1: There's confused by this. People in the kayak in their
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Speaker 1: own they had the fence to the river and d
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Speaker 1: have quick and so they would. He in the kayak
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Speaker 1: store employees would take the kayaks into the Hudson River
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Speaker 1: and get a good time. They couldn't pull them back up.
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Speaker 1: I'm guessing this business is no longer in business. They
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Speaker 1: are they still are, so here he is. He will
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Speaker 1: kayak the rivers of New York. He will walk through
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Speaker 1: the park and buy the weed. He will eat a
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Speaker 1: hot dog. He's a man of urban adventure. And then
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Speaker 1: he looks over and he sees nol in the fountain
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Speaker 1: and he's like inspired, live your life, you know, dance
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Speaker 1: on the shout like nobody's watching, Mr David you really
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Speaker 1: feel seen. He probably like throws some money and like
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Speaker 1: buys all the ice cream, and he's like, keep it
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Speaker 1: up with those pigeons, you know what I mean, high
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Speaker 1: fives everybody. And so he gets arrested and Officer Thomas
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Speaker 1: Kilroy's arresting officer right air five No, so he owns
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Speaker 1: van Halen records. This cop he likes to get loose,
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Speaker 1: and he's sees David Lee Roth. He's wearing these sunglasses
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Speaker 1: and he's arresting. He's like, this guy looks so familiar.
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Speaker 1: It's like, um last name, he says Roth. And then
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Speaker 1: the cops like, as Indvid Lee, what a conundrum? Do
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Speaker 1: I arrest this guy? Do I just let this free
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Speaker 1: bird fly off? Now? Which makes the better story that
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Speaker 1: I arrested David Lee Roth, that I let him go? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I know, I think we all know the answer that
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Speaker 1: that man. Oh, he gets booked, released, he gets a summons.
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Speaker 1: It's like the equivalent of a traffic ticket in order
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Speaker 1: to appear less than a misdemeanor. You know, does I
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Speaker 1: think he paid a fine off? Because again it's like
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Speaker 1: a it's a big bust it's not like it's not
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Speaker 1: like a a sting operation entirely to catch Mr David Lee.
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Speaker 1: He's not caught up in the net. Caught up in
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Speaker 1: the net. Caught in the net, poor fellow. So but
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Speaker 1: the thing is like he later he goes on to
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Speaker 1: serve the people of New York. Did you know that
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Speaker 1: David Lee Roth became an e MT in New York
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Speaker 1: for a while? This guy he in the late nineties,
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Speaker 1: he trained um as an e MT in New York.
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Speaker 1: He went on over two hundred ambulance rights. Can you
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Speaker 1: imagine that? You're like, you can knock the hold you
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Speaker 1: come to and David Lee Roth is giving you mouth
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Speaker 1: the mouth or you're still on, like you overdose or
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Speaker 1: you have some sort of terrible situation and you've just
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Speaker 1: been listening to Van Halen and then you wake up
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Speaker 1: in the ambulance. It's like you're standing in front of
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Speaker 1: your brownstone and your spandex pants listening to him. You
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Speaker 1: give a high kick and your foot gets stuck on
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Speaker 1: the fence, paling through. Your angle comes up and there's
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Speaker 1: Diamond Dave and he's like, I've been there. He's like,
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Speaker 1: what happens to the best of us. Now bite this belt, honey,
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Speaker 1: I lift your leg up. He wouldn't. He can literally
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Speaker 1: jump start your heart. I mean, and he wouldn't. You know,
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Speaker 1: he wouldn't like judge you for it. Who's like, I've
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Speaker 1: got this no judgment. Mr David Lee Roth issues no
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Speaker 1: judgment in this life. I likes got me to where
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Speaker 1: I am. Yeah. Yeah, he's always rolling with Like he
19:41
Speaker 1: opens up his coat and he's got like bottles of antibiotics.
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Speaker 1: He's got the ten dollar bag of week allergic. He's ready.
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Speaker 1: He's you know, he's like how some women in their
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Speaker 1: purse have everything. I like to imagine that David Lee
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Speaker 1: Roth opens his coat and he's just got every thing
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Speaker 1: you're going to possibly need. Poncho, Do you need an
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Speaker 1: ore for a kayak? Because God knows kayak? Or I'm like,
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Speaker 1: can I actually can I get a crocheted poncho? And
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Speaker 1: he's like, I don't even worry about it, pulls it
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Speaker 1: out of his pants. It's nice and warms. A lot
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Speaker 1: of people have cocaine spoons, but I have a cocaine fork,
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Speaker 1: put stones everything. He's amazing, but you know, like the
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Speaker 1: this wasn't his first run in with the fuzz. No,
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Speaker 1: I'm shocked. Do please take a picture in my face.
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Speaker 1: I can see what it looked like when I'm like
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Speaker 1: the O face emoji. He for all of our images
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Speaker 1: of Mr David Lee Roth in our head that he's
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Speaker 1: this wild rock star. He's really not. He lives his
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Speaker 1: wild life, but he's not the debauch style who's always
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Speaker 1: getting in trouble. His prior is nineteen eighty in Cincinnati,
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Speaker 1: and he David van Halen. He's in van Halen at
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Speaker 1: the time they're on tour. He was playing with the
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Speaker 1: band in Cincinnati on the Invasion tour and they sometimes
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Speaker 1: they called it I forget something else, but anyway, he's
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Speaker 1: They're playing Riverfront Stadium five months prior to who had
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Speaker 1: played that same stadium and there was a stampede and
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Speaker 1: eleven people were killed. So they had this whole overhaul
21:24
Speaker 1: of the system at the stadium at Riverfront, so you
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Speaker 1: there's no more general admission, no open flames, which okay,
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Speaker 1: and no by bringing a guerilla with you. Yeah. The
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Speaker 1: list of those very specific bands, I love those right,
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Speaker 1: So they there are all these things that you can't
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Speaker 1: do at Riverfront Stadium anymore. And when you tell David
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Speaker 1: Lee Rock you can't do something that's a challenge issue,
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Speaker 1: it's a guarantee. Yeah. But here's the thing. He had
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Speaker 1: no clue that what he was going to do wasn't
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Speaker 1: something could do. So they're playing their hit Light Up
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Speaker 1: the Sky, which I have no idea that that song
22:05
Speaker 1: sounds like anyway, you know, an van Halen deep cuts,
22:09
Speaker 1: no no youth to put to just to like time
22:13
Speaker 1: out for one of my multiple non sequiturs um. There's
22:17
Speaker 1: a really great song title that David Lee Roth has
22:21
Speaker 1: called Ladies Night and Buffalo. And I'm just like anything
22:27
Speaker 1: he ever does, he should just be totally absolved with
22:30
Speaker 1: any sins. Because he wrote a song called Ladies Knight
22:33
Speaker 1: and Buffalo. I love your I love the careful, the
22:38
Speaker 1: careful framing of that he wrote this amazing song title.
22:44
Speaker 1: It's kind of like pursuit of happiness, you know what
22:47
Speaker 1: I mean. It's like, yeah, go for it exactly. And
22:50
Speaker 1: you see that and you say, that's a risk, not
22:52
Speaker 1: only to write up tonity listen to it. So I'm
22:56
Speaker 1: just going to watch it from afar for right, appreciate
22:58
Speaker 1: it from here. That's good. It's one of those things
23:00
Speaker 1: like do I want to open that present, and then
23:02
Speaker 1: I don't have it anymore. So that's sweet expectation, that's there.
23:06
Speaker 1: So anyway, they have this song, light up the sky,
23:09
Speaker 1: light up the yeah, light up this guy, this guy, this,
23:13
Speaker 1: this catagory here. So there's a drum solo, of course,
23:17
Speaker 1: and then on the studio version of it, after the
23:19
Speaker 1: drum solo, diamond davels light them up. Okay, that's what
23:24
Speaker 1: happens in the normal song. In this situation. In the
23:29
Speaker 1: live show, he yells at a couple of times, light
23:31
Speaker 1: him up, light him up, about he's really good at scudding.
23:37
Speaker 1: So he yells that, and then the crowd apparently thinks
23:41
Speaker 1: that means light them up. Spark a dude. That's my
23:50
Speaker 1: point though, that how would anyone think that that says
23:54
Speaker 1: light them up? So they're all like smoking a cigarette
23:56
Speaker 1: and be like, just give me about five minutes, like
23:58
Speaker 1: is this plane crashing where we apparently everyone starts lighting
24:02
Speaker 1: up cigarettes and cigarettes, cigarettes of every variety, funny kind,
24:10
Speaker 1: maybe some cigars, maybe some cloves, cigarettes, and then everyone
24:14
Speaker 1: around them is super irritated with them. I don't want
24:17
Speaker 1: to hear your poetry were you're van Halen poetry? So
24:24
Speaker 1: the crowd is now starting to smoke things, and the
24:28
Speaker 1: people running the stadium are just beside themselves because they're
24:32
Speaker 1: afraid that somehow people smoking things is going to lead
24:35
Speaker 1: to another riot. They're gun shy, I suppose, so they
24:41
Speaker 1: start like maybe they cut everything down, get everyone to leave.
24:45
Speaker 1: They arrest a hundred, you know, they throw a hundred
24:48
Speaker 1: people out for smoking hun people, and then a hundred
24:51
Speaker 1: and seventy seven people were arrested for drug or alcohol charges.
24:55
Speaker 1: They arrested more people than they the kicked out. So
25:01
Speaker 1: they're like, you, you hundred, get out of here. To
25:02
Speaker 1: the rest of you, you're coming with us. Damn should
25:05
Speaker 1: be in a cigarette. The thing is, though, is that
25:11
Speaker 1: the cops then blame the band. Now, that's not Those
25:13
Speaker 1: aren't large numbers for a stadium show. I think they're
25:17
Speaker 1: doing pretty well in terms of busts for a Van
25:20
Speaker 1: Halen show. Yeah, wild times. Anyway, David Lee Roth is
25:25
Speaker 1: charged with encouraging violation of a fire code and has
25:29
Speaker 1: to post five thousand dollars bond. That's the squarest charge totally.
25:35
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying is that you'd imagine like, well,
25:38
Speaker 1: what did he get charged with? Well, you know he
25:41
Speaker 1: was his other bust, like I toured the label off
25:43
Speaker 1: the mattress, right right, he pushes the limits. So he's
25:48
Speaker 1: got so far. We have ten dollar bag of weed.
25:51
Speaker 1: I told people to break a fire code, and I
25:54
Speaker 1: jumped into a river on a canoe, swimming within thirty
25:57
Speaker 1: minutes of eating. So this guy like a criminal of
26:01
Speaker 1: wholesome adventures completely completely he winds up getting the charges
26:06
Speaker 1: are dismissed because the judge that there was a lack
26:09
Speaker 1: of clarity and how the law was broken. Okay, yeah,
26:13
Speaker 1: because you could say, for like encouraging violation of a
26:16
Speaker 1: fire code, that could be as simple as somebody walking
26:20
Speaker 1: by in public space and being like, you know what,
26:22
Speaker 1: people should stand here? Yeah, just like, hey, you guys
26:25
Speaker 1: got people in this room. There's someone's like, who is
26:30
Speaker 1: this arch villain making relatively inconvenient across southwestern Cincinnati or whatever?
26:37
Speaker 1: Don't you think Cincinnati has bigger fish to fry than this?
26:40
Speaker 1: But again, gunshy, I think that's a pretty down I
26:44
Speaker 1: don't know, Okay, no, no, no, shade Danny, Cincinnatians out there.
26:48
Speaker 1: It doesn't strike me as the most like, I don't
26:50
Speaker 1: hear about a lot of craziness going down and cincinnative.
26:53
Speaker 1: I just I'm just pointing out, like I agree with
26:56
Speaker 1: this so much so that agree with the judge at
26:59
Speaker 1: least it would It would also have been amazing if
27:03
Speaker 1: the judge, you know, like someone from the kayak store
27:06
Speaker 1: whispers and the judges ear and then and they're like,
27:09
Speaker 1: case dismissed. I got places to be That's the ending.
27:16
Speaker 1: We could just we could put that in in our
27:19
Speaker 1: cinematic version. Well that's what I always call my invented
27:22
Speaker 1: details all these stories, So this is sort of an
27:26
Speaker 1: invented details. Yeah, the kayak guy is the bailiff and
27:30
Speaker 1: he leans in. He's like, listen, you can't you cannot
27:33
Speaker 1: bust this guy. He's so good for business. I'll cut
27:35
Speaker 1: you in on it. The other thing too, with David
27:38
Speaker 1: Lee Roth and and Dope is that, um, he had
27:41
Speaker 1: a drug mule that he used in order to get
27:45
Speaker 1: his weed into and out of the Bahamas. Because you know,
27:50
Speaker 1: when you're in the eighties and your rock star, you
27:52
Speaker 1: spend a good amount of time in the Bahamas. Apparently, Yeah,
27:55
Speaker 1: that was the whole thing. Didn't like Keith Richards and
27:57
Speaker 1: Mick Jagger Crash were playing in Jamaica. Yeah, Keith has
28:00
Speaker 1: a place in to me. I say it, Keith, like
28:02
Speaker 1: were pal. I was just sending him some roses because
28:06
Speaker 1: I was thinking about maybe going down there and summering. Now.
28:08
Speaker 1: I just wanted to let him know. I was debating it,
28:11
Speaker 1: of course, but yeah, that's classic Key keep telling you, man,
28:19
Speaker 1: we can't bring that much ketamine to you on the plane.
28:22
Speaker 1: I know that's normal for you guys, but you'd have
28:25
Speaker 1: to buy a seat for that much. Kee. So he
28:29
Speaker 1: had it. But the at a mule, and it wasn't
28:30
Speaker 1: Richard Nixon, Okay, I was. I was actually just very
28:34
Speaker 1: quickly was searching for vice presidents during the eighties because
28:38
Speaker 1: I was thinking that wasn't an actual mule it was
28:48
Speaker 1: I would I'd be like, yes, that makes total sense. No,
28:51
Speaker 1: this is amazing. His drug mule was Tawny Kittain. Now,
28:56
Speaker 1: for those I'm familiar, Tony Kain was at one point
28:59
Speaker 1: Mary David Coverdale, singer of White Snake. She made her
29:03
Speaker 1: fame by writhing around on the hood of a Jaguar
29:06
Speaker 1: in a video. So the best driving of the eighties.
29:10
Speaker 1: I believe she was, Yeah, carrent driver, she I guess
29:14
Speaker 1: was not this is before she married David Coverdale, she
29:18
Speaker 1: was dating the manager of Van Halen and when they
29:23
Speaker 1: would all go down to the Bahamas, David Lee Roth
29:25
Speaker 1: would pull her aside and shove his drugs in her
29:28
Speaker 1: bag and say, head on through. I thought you were
29:30
Speaker 1: going to go somewhere else with that. Didn't go there.
29:34
Speaker 1: I don't work blue fellas, okay. So yeah, so Tonyktaine
29:39
Speaker 1: And apparently like she would have to drive him around
29:42
Speaker 1: while they picked up He and some other gentleman would
29:45
Speaker 1: pick up sex workers. She'd be like the driver. I
29:49
Speaker 1: don't know if she had to go over there and negotiate.
29:51
Speaker 1: She also as the driver, like picking them, like, oh
29:53
Speaker 1: those look good, I'll be over here. She was a
29:55
Speaker 1: reluctant participant, you know, I get it. So Mr dney
30:00
Speaker 1: Off was more of a weed and women kind of guy,
30:02
Speaker 1: well ladies like in Buffalo cocaine guy, right, And yeah, no,
30:06
Speaker 1: he was a cocaine guy. So he did drugs and
30:10
Speaker 1: then he did drugs, drugs like cocaine, and sometimes drugs
30:14
Speaker 1: did him. Yeah, fair enough. So maybe he was just
30:17
Speaker 1: naturally that high energy. Now we need to meadow out
30:20
Speaker 1: after work, you know. Yeah, And then what would happen
30:22
Speaker 1: if he wasn't know he was. He was a he
30:25
Speaker 1: was a bottle rocket, that fella. He did a lot
30:28
Speaker 1: of coke and they also did a lot of pills
30:31
Speaker 1: in the eighties. And that was one of the things
30:32
Speaker 1: that broke Van Halen up is that they at least
30:35
Speaker 1: his departure not breaking it up. They know he he
30:39
Speaker 1: said that he didn't like their drug use, which is like, like,
30:43
Speaker 1: I don't like they're very boring about it. They will
30:46
Speaker 1: not keep up nor have the drugs. Perhaps he was
30:50
Speaker 1: trying to like go straight, or he was saying like, yeah,
30:52
Speaker 1: they just these guys can't keep up. Come on, like,
30:54
Speaker 1: I have to find all the drugs. I'm down in
30:56
Speaker 1: South America doing research. What did they come back to
30:58
Speaker 1: me with, Oh I got some mad Jill, Thank thanks
31:00
Speaker 1: nice Alex Alex so he yeah, that's when he cites that.
31:06
Speaker 1: But then everyone else is like, I think it was
31:07
Speaker 1: a personality clash. It's like no, no, yeah, I don't
31:12
Speaker 1: think named after a guitarist. And then you've got the
31:16
Speaker 1: front man who's soaking up all the spotlight behind the
31:20
Speaker 1: scenes clash he goes, he goes in rock music, that's
31:25
Speaker 1: a prime that's a prime example. And I will say
31:28
Speaker 1: though that um, when he went solo and then he
31:33
Speaker 1: got a guitar player for that first you know, the
31:36
Speaker 1: first EP and the first record he got Steve V
31:40
Speaker 1: and you know guitar virtual. So but it's when you
31:42
Speaker 1: listen to it. And I'm saying that not like this
31:45
Speaker 1: is something I do on the daily, although I wouldn't
31:47
Speaker 1: be ashamed if I listened to David Lee Roth every
31:49
Speaker 1: day to wake up. But in listening to it recently,
31:53
Speaker 1: it's like Steve V is doing his very best Eddie
31:56
Speaker 1: van Halen impression. Here's the thing, Steve I is obviously
32:00
Speaker 1: and fine talented musician, but what makes Eddie van Halen
32:04
Speaker 1: an interesting guitarist is just how like unhinged and wild
32:07
Speaker 1: is playing as Steve is much more like contained, you know,
32:11
Speaker 1: a little clinical and Eddie Eddie was inventive and he
32:16
Speaker 1: had few on it. I totally agree. Yeah, Steve By
32:19
Speaker 1: is like every dude sitting in Guitar Center noodling around
32:23
Speaker 1: on like a stratocaster that they really want is super
32:26
Speaker 1: into Steve By. And like, where does the sideways for
32:32
Speaker 1: a second, Rodney James Dio versus Dusty Rhodes is eric
32:36
Speaker 1: an analog here. I thought you were through Steve Stevens
32:38
Speaker 1: in this. We are just naming every frizzy haired eighties. Yeah.
32:45
Speaker 1: I liked because he's a funny looking guy and he
32:48
Speaker 1: makes it work for him. Yeah yeah, and he gave
32:51
Speaker 1: us all the evil theloca. That's yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
32:55
Speaker 1: So David Lee Mr Ross, he uh, you know, he's
33:00
Speaker 1: to wildlife now. He apparently has like a company that
33:04
Speaker 1: does after care for tattoos, like like like tattoos. Yeah,
33:13
Speaker 1: I guess, you know, just like you know, keep it moisturized.
33:16
Speaker 1: So his first tattoo, the first tattoo he ever got,
33:19
Speaker 1: was a he got a sea horse on his ankle.
33:22
Speaker 1: I thought he got a banjo on his knee. That
33:26
Speaker 1: was like in the early days of Van Halen. He
33:28
Speaker 1: gets a seahorse on his ank and then he waited.
33:31
Speaker 1: He didn't get another one till he was sixty, and
33:33
Speaker 1: then he got what he calls what's calmly none is
33:35
Speaker 1: the Japanese tuxedo. He's like fully fully inked. Oh yeah, wow,
33:42
Speaker 1: well he thought about it. Yeah, so he got he
33:46
Speaker 1: got the sea horse, and he thought about he gave
33:48
Speaker 1: it some time. Well that's what he says, He's like,
33:51
Speaker 1: I spent all this time, you know, forty years or
33:55
Speaker 1: whatever coming up with all the designs that I wanted
33:59
Speaker 1: and and he just got it all at once. Well,
34:02
Speaker 1: I respressed that it's an impressive amount of a long
34:04
Speaker 1: time too. That's I mean, not in the chair getting tattooed.
34:08
Speaker 1: That's also sounds like it's his it's his new drug
34:11
Speaker 1: and all the amount of the doorphins yea. And to
34:17
Speaker 1: be fair and to his credit, I mean, isn't he
34:18
Speaker 1: a big sober living proponent now? Like he totally went
34:21
Speaker 1: clean and it's like sort of I think so, but
34:24
Speaker 1: I think he likes I feel like, why am I
34:26
Speaker 1: envisioning him drinking wine, white wine and a joint now
34:30
Speaker 1: and like just wearing like, you know, a kimono. Maybe, Yeah,
34:36
Speaker 1: he's what do they call it, California sober? California sober?
34:41
Speaker 1: So I think that, like, you know, the other thing too,
34:44
Speaker 1: is it did you know that he was the one
34:46
Speaker 1: who was supposed to replace Howard Stern when Stern went
34:49
Speaker 1: to Serious X Mr David Lee Roth. Yeah, they gave
34:53
Speaker 1: him a radio show and it only lasted two months.
34:55
Speaker 1: I thought you're gonna say when toward Stern got divorced.
34:59
Speaker 1: Just like they gave him. They gave him the time
35:03
Speaker 1: slot and he wouldn't play the music that they wanted
35:05
Speaker 1: him to play. He put on like world music and
35:08
Speaker 1: alternative rock acts. Had Peter Gabriel come on, It's He
35:12
Speaker 1: was like, it's your day, It's women's Day. Thanks Peter
35:16
Speaker 1: Um So he no, he had he had Randoms on there.
35:20
Speaker 1: He had Johnny Damon on Wow the baseball player, because
35:24
Speaker 1: he's like, if someone I think is interesting, want to
35:25
Speaker 1: bring him onto my show and we're gonna listen to
35:27
Speaker 1: world music. What do you think? He brought his his
35:30
Speaker 1: uncle Manny Roth on, so he started a podcast one.
35:37
Speaker 1: Manny Roth though was really interesting because like his uncle,
35:40
Speaker 1: he was the owner of Cafe Wah in Greenwich Village.
35:43
Speaker 1: So that was like from like late fifties through the sixties.
35:47
Speaker 1: That's where Dylan Hendrix, Springsteen, Velvet Underground Cool in the
35:51
Speaker 1: Game played there ps Um and then he went on
35:55
Speaker 1: to open a diner in Woodstock. But yeah, Nanny, he
35:57
Speaker 1: was on the show. The UM network gave Mr David
36:03
Speaker 1: Lee Roth some negative feedback about his show, and he
36:05
Speaker 1: turned around and complained about it on air. Very and
36:11
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden they came in and told
36:13
Speaker 1: him right before he was going on the air, this
36:15
Speaker 1: is your last show. Remember your last show? It was?
36:19
Speaker 1: That was it? So yeah, those are the wild tales
36:21
Speaker 1: of Mr David Lee Roth. I love it. They're less
36:25
Speaker 1: wild than I would have expected. I mean, I think
36:27
Speaker 1: this is like sort of latter day David Lee Roth
36:30
Speaker 1: a little bit, maybe pull it out a little bit
36:32
Speaker 1: from and it's I like the different shades of wild.
36:35
Speaker 1: So it's not self destructive wild. It's entertaining and it's
36:39
Speaker 1: cut a hole in this fence wild, And legend goes,
36:43
Speaker 1: I hear that if you, if you happened by the
36:47
Speaker 1: right area of New York when the weather is just so,
36:51
Speaker 1: you might even see the No, okay, we know where
36:53
Speaker 1: that bit is going. Hold Winter's night. I say it
37:00
Speaker 1: takes some some you know stones to be willing to
37:05
Speaker 1: kayak in the Hudson River. Man, I'd be afraid, like,
37:07
Speaker 1: let's catch on fire or something, you know. I mean,
37:10
Speaker 1: it's not exactly come out with all manner of skin disorders.
37:13
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you come out different. Yeah, that's why he
37:16
Speaker 1: had to get fully tattooed. Invented detail the tattoos are
37:19
Speaker 1: cover ups for the stains and the like. So yeah,
37:25
Speaker 1: that's it. There's my David Lee Roth story for you.
37:28
Speaker 1: I feel like I've grown, Saron. What is your ridiculous
37:31
Speaker 1: takeaway with this one? Um? If you're going to bust
37:35
Speaker 1: David Lee Roth in a park, don't because that makes
37:38
Speaker 1: for a better story down the line. So you can
37:40
Speaker 1: be the copy of like, hey, I totally didn't do
37:43
Speaker 1: my job and everyone's like, yeah, man, that's no. Do
37:48
Speaker 1: you have a ridiculous takeaway? Uh? Cops love van Halen.
37:52
Speaker 1: There you go, Bingo, Ben ridiculous, A ridiculous takeaway? Yes,
37:59
Speaker 1: I I you can convince people to mutiny against institutions
38:06
Speaker 1: and empires, starting with the kayak shops. You know exactly.
38:11
Speaker 1: You know what damned be your fire coats, damned be
38:15
Speaker 1: your fence off the heads And I like it. I'm
38:18
Speaker 1: just imposing some of our features on ridiculous crime upon you.
38:24
Speaker 1: What's your ridiculous takeaway? That's wonderful? I love it. Uh
38:28
Speaker 1: And and this is this is a story that you
38:30
Speaker 1: know part way through, Elizabeth, just to confirm, I started
38:36
Speaker 1: I started looking at I just checked. It's like, David
38:39
Speaker 1: Lee Roth, make sure he's alive, you know, and I
38:41
Speaker 1: became more protective of him as as the story continue
38:45
Speaker 1: to which is uh, which I think. I think if
38:49
Speaker 1: this is proselytization, I am one of the converted now.
38:53
Speaker 1: So we have a lot of love for David Lee
38:57
Speaker 1: Roth around Ridiculous trying glad we can spread that in
39:00
Speaker 1: the Ridiculous universe and everyone can eventually know that David
39:02
Speaker 1: Lee Roth, you're lucky to have him. Yeah, it's good too.
39:13
Speaker 1: And this I think brings us to our final tail,
39:18
Speaker 1: which involves no I don't know too much about this
39:24
Speaker 1: next story. I knew it was. It was a better
39:27
Speaker 1: idea than than my initial idea because we we were
39:31
Speaker 1: talking off air and I was asking Noel, It's like, hey,
39:34
Speaker 1: what are you gonna what do you think we should do,
39:37
Speaker 1: you know, on the show in a few days, And
39:40
Speaker 1: my idea was we should talk about that time Prince
39:43
Speaker 1: took a megaphone off the airplanks. That was cool and impressive.
39:47
Speaker 1: But but no you found something. I think there's a
39:51
Speaker 1: much deeper story, and it's one that I'm not sure
39:54
Speaker 1: a lot of people know about. I start of a
39:56
Speaker 1: super deep I don't know if it even quite counts
39:58
Speaker 1: as a bust. But here I was going to do
40:01
Speaker 1: the mysterious death of Natalie Wood until I realized it
40:05
Speaker 1: was just mega depressing, and that's not ridiculous at all,
40:08
Speaker 1: that's just sad. Christopher Walking was involved, Richard Wagner was implicated.
40:12
Speaker 1: But then I'm like, where's the ridiculous angle? Where? What's
40:15
Speaker 1: where's the opportunity for ridiculous takeaways? Here? It's just a
40:18
Speaker 1: real bummer of a story. So I decided to go
40:20
Speaker 1: in a different direction. And I had a burst of
40:23
Speaker 1: inspiration when I remembered a clip that I used to
40:27
Speaker 1: really love and always made the rounds. It was a
40:29
Speaker 1: fun thing to listen to um to get some last
40:32
Speaker 1: And it's John Wayne delivering a speech and he's very
40:36
Speaker 1: clearly quite drunk. Let's listen to a little bit of
40:38
Speaker 1: it now and just so we can reflect on it,
40:40
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna go into some potential origin a
40:44
Speaker 1: potential origin story for this speech. I want to add
40:49
Speaker 1: anything that I can add to what he said about
40:53
Speaker 1: the fact that you guys are just there is no
40:59
Speaker 1: way to be a leader in Americana except you guys.
41:08
Speaker 1: You gotta control it. We haven't, We haven't any chance
41:16
Speaker 1: you Naturally things happened like at the Columbia University and
41:26
Speaker 1: at the other mother colleges. No, it really it's Uh.
41:34
Speaker 1: When I went to school, I went to school at
41:36
Speaker 1: the University of Southern California. Let me explain something to you.
41:43
Speaker 1: When I went there, I went there when there was
41:46
Speaker 1: a fella and can control of the college. I mean,
41:51
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the boss man there. If anybody had
41:58
Speaker 1: walked intore he is office and torn down a picture
42:07
Speaker 1: and did excrement into his Uh, no one is a
42:15
Speaker 1: waste paper baskets or had written lewd words on his
42:20
Speaker 1: uh the pictures of his family. We as members of
42:28
Speaker 1: the college would have kicked the god damn hell out
42:34
Speaker 1: of this organization. I can't understand how how it can
42:40
Speaker 1: happen in the United States of America that this can happen.
42:46
Speaker 1: What is this like? Is this a commencement speech? He's
42:49
Speaker 1: talking about colleges comparing like you know other Ivy League
42:54
Speaker 1: universe are Yeah, some people, for some reason, people are
43:00
Speaker 1: doing excrements since waste paperbacks, what are what are known
43:03
Speaker 1: as waste writing lewd words on pictures of his family. Uh,
43:10
Speaker 1: he's the protector of Americana clearly. You know, he t
43:15
Speaker 1: really talks like that, you guys, um, and you know,
43:19
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he's drunk. So let's say I think so, man,
43:24
Speaker 1: I mean, there's something going on. So I think the
43:26
Speaker 1: bust here is like busted. You got recorded sounding like
43:29
Speaker 1: a loopy drunkie John Wayne, and that's fun for us. Um.
43:33
Speaker 1: But I looked into this because it exists on the
43:36
Speaker 1: internet as John Wayne Drunk Speech dot w m V.
43:40
Speaker 1: When you find it on YouTube if you want. It's
43:43
Speaker 1: the only version of this that I can find. Um.
43:46
Speaker 1: It only has about fifty two thousand views, so it's uh,
43:50
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be super super like zeitguy? See or
43:54
Speaker 1: people are like thinking about this a lot, but I
43:56
Speaker 1: remembered it and I was like, where was that from.
43:58
Speaker 1: There's a whole Reddit thread devoted to this question, and
44:02
Speaker 1: the most plausible that there's a few possibilities. One was
44:07
Speaker 1: an appearance he made in June of nineteen seventy at
44:10
Speaker 1: the Department of the Navy u c L a r
44:13
Speaker 1: OTC dress Parade um, where he was asked to speak
44:18
Speaker 1: at the commencement and then joined the n r O
44:20
Speaker 1: tc UH in something called the Pistol Award Medal. Um.
44:25
Speaker 1: I guess that's an award given for marksmanship, you know
44:29
Speaker 1: in the R O. T. C or whatever. Of course
44:32
Speaker 1: we all know and love it. Um. But the most
44:34
Speaker 1: plausible source, because of the clearly quite lighthearted nature of
44:40
Speaker 1: his delivery and the potential party atmosphere that may have
44:44
Speaker 1: led to it, was an appearance that he made in
44:47
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy four at Harvard. Um. You guys are probably
44:51
Speaker 1: familiar with Harvard's National Lampoon, which was there, you know,
44:56
Speaker 1: comedy literary magazine. A lot. I think Color Ryan used
45:00
Speaker 1: to write for it. A lot of S n L
45:02
Speaker 1: people came from it. It's like a big deal. It
45:04
Speaker 1: generates a lot of big comedic talents. And I can
45:08
Speaker 1: only assume that the National Lampoon films were based on
45:12
Speaker 1: stuff from like the National Lampoon magazine whatever. I never said.
45:16
Speaker 1: I'm like how those organizations are like exactly one to
45:19
Speaker 1: one related. But but nothing else would really make too
45:22
Speaker 1: much stuff. So The New York Times actually wrote an
45:26
Speaker 1: article about this appearance. Um. It was written by John
45:31
Speaker 1: Kiffner on January sixteenth of nineteen seventy four, and the
45:34
Speaker 1: headline is John Wayne plays a new role, the Invader
45:38
Speaker 1: of Harvard Square. Um. So apparently the National Lampoon had
45:43
Speaker 1: called John Wayne out as being like a big old
45:47
Speaker 1: phony because he plays all these tough guys in the movies,
45:51
Speaker 1: you know, and all these military men and all of that,
45:54
Speaker 1: and you know, sands of you, a GiMA and a
45:56
Speaker 1: lot of war pictures, you know, stuff like that. Obviously,
46:00
Speaker 1: is a big cowboy type dude. Um. He got out
46:02
Speaker 1: of back last two for his kind of glorification of
46:05
Speaker 1: like the wild West. And obviously there's a lot of
46:08
Speaker 1: problematic treatment of indigenous people and all that stuff super
46:12
Speaker 1: glossed over in his movies, and he kind of makes
46:14
Speaker 1: it all seem like this a whole lot of big
46:17
Speaker 1: Mannish fun, you know. Um. And you know he's known
46:20
Speaker 1: as the Duke. I always forget to see the Duke
46:22
Speaker 1: or the Boss, and the Boss is Springsteen. The Duke
46:25
Speaker 1: is is is this guy is? He also know that
46:28
Speaker 1: the Duke is the name of his dog. We got
46:31
Speaker 1: his dog's nickname the local firefighters. They had this dog
46:35
Speaker 1: and and they loved him, so they called the dog Duke.
46:38
Speaker 1: And then he ends up taking on his dog's nickname.
46:40
Speaker 1: Like how many people other than Indiana Jones his nickname.
46:44
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I can see, I could see
46:47
Speaker 1: they must have known about that when when writing uh,
46:50
Speaker 1: Indiana Jones gave the like named after the dog. So
47:00
Speaker 1: you know, the eggheads that that that the Lampoon um
47:04
Speaker 1: dubbed John Wayne is the biggest fraud in history. Um
47:08
Speaker 1: for that very reason, you know, for a lot of
47:10
Speaker 1: the problematic portrayals that he did in films and the
47:12
Speaker 1: fact that he actually got uh deferred or I guess whatever,
47:18
Speaker 1: you know when you get a pass for for being drafted,
47:21
Speaker 1: because yeah, john Ford just to give him a hard
47:23
Speaker 1: time about that. A lot of people did, I think,
47:26
Speaker 1: especially again because he's playing this like, you know, within life,
47:29
Speaker 1: tough guy, military guy, but he was apparently under the
47:32
Speaker 1: he was the sole caregiver for I think four children. Um,
47:38
Speaker 1: so it's yeah, I guess it's a legitimate reason, but
47:40
Speaker 1: probably not the best look, especially when you're this guy.
47:43
Speaker 1: But he doubles down. So he accepts this invitation to
47:47
Speaker 1: debate the I guess staff of the National Lampoon. It's
47:51
Speaker 1: some kind of event. It's all kind of in good
47:54
Speaker 1: roasty type fund right, So they send him his invitation
47:57
Speaker 1: and he agrees. So you kind of got to give
47:59
Speaker 1: the guy it for having a bit of a sense
48:01
Speaker 1: of humor and not being too self serious because he
48:04
Speaker 1: shows up as part of a military kind of cavalcade,
48:08
Speaker 1: like a he he rolls into Harvard Square with a
48:12
Speaker 1: military escort um writing on top of like a gunner,
48:17
Speaker 1: you know, like vehicle or I think it's a tank,
48:20
Speaker 1: but it looks like a machine gun nest that he's in, Like, yeah,
48:28
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's pretty bizarre. It's it's a
48:31
Speaker 1: pretty weird flex um. So he's surrounded by policemen and
48:36
Speaker 1: all of these soldiers and they rush him into the theater. Um,
48:40
Speaker 1: you know, just kind of bowling over all of the
48:43
Speaker 1: the onlookers and people that are asking for his autograph.
48:45
Speaker 1: He does give out a few autographs. Um. But he
48:49
Speaker 1: gets inside and he gives this address. Potentially that that
48:54
Speaker 1: is the theory. We don't have exact confirmation this is
48:57
Speaker 1: where it comes from, but given the nature of the
48:59
Speaker 1: event and you know, the timing, this redditor seems to
49:03
Speaker 1: believe that this is this is accurate, and I think
49:05
Speaker 1: that it seems to be pretty close to me. Um.
49:07
Speaker 1: So the they're actually presenting him with an award. UM,
49:11
Speaker 1: and the it's funny because he actually says, uh that
49:15
Speaker 1: he he makes a joke about how he decided to
49:17
Speaker 1: come um, and he turned down another opportunity to appear
49:23
Speaker 1: at a Jane Fonda convention. So um, I think he's
49:26
Speaker 1: sort of taking the piss a little bit, but also
49:29
Speaker 1: again being nice and self deprecating. So the Lampoon actually
49:32
Speaker 1: presented him with an award for having the nerve to
49:37
Speaker 1: show up, which essentially is like it's not called this,
49:41
Speaker 1: but let's just call it what it is, like a
49:43
Speaker 1: brass Balls award. So you're saying that a tough guy
49:47
Speaker 1: got a participation award. He sure did so, I mean,
49:50
Speaker 1: I'm sure that was maybe lost on him, but yeah,
49:52
Speaker 1: they present them with this trophy that's made up of
49:55
Speaker 1: two spheres made of pure brass. So brass Balls award, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
50:02
Speaker 1: Uh And he he actually he made another pretty funny
50:07
Speaker 1: drug with a literary reference in and I'm sorry, I'm
50:09
Speaker 1: not trying to you know, um smirched the guy's intellect.
50:14
Speaker 1: But I was surprised that he made this reference. He
50:16
Speaker 1: said his invitation came in a plain brown envelope, and
50:19
Speaker 1: he said it was quote like being invited to lunch
50:22
Speaker 1: with the Borgia's. Um. If anyone's seen that show the Borges,
50:26
Speaker 1: you'll know that they had a reputation, this ruling family
50:29
Speaker 1: for just like murdering people all the time and inviting
50:32
Speaker 1: them to dinner and just like killing the hell out.
50:35
Speaker 1: Like I brought my best poison ring to this dinner, exactly,
50:38
Speaker 1: and then I made my son pope. Yeah, exactly. So
50:43
Speaker 1: let's see what are some other good Then there's a
50:45
Speaker 1: back and forth, this debate kind of it's all again,
50:47
Speaker 1: it's all very clearly in good fun. I don't think
50:49
Speaker 1: you would have showed up otherwise. But here's a little
50:52
Speaker 1: bit from the article. Uh, some of the questions that
50:55
Speaker 1: he was asked. Someone asked him how does his horse
50:58
Speaker 1: feel about sex? In the center? Mom Um, don't have
51:02
Speaker 1: his direct response to that one. What was the last
51:04
Speaker 1: book or comic book you read? And they asked him
51:06
Speaker 1: to doing Ed Sullivan impersonation. Another one that was good
51:10
Speaker 1: is are you ever going to marry Kitty in your show?
51:14
Speaker 1: I don't know that reference because I don't know John
51:16
Speaker 1: Wayne's works super well. And my favorite, how do you
51:19
Speaker 1: feel about students smoking LSD? I've actually heard the answer
51:25
Speaker 1: to the first question about what did his horse think
51:27
Speaker 1: about sex in the cinema? To his horse actually preferred
51:31
Speaker 1: sex and parks. It was not into He did not
51:34
Speaker 1: like it indoors was he was. He was zinging on
51:37
Speaker 1: this right, because there was the other question. You know,
51:40
Speaker 1: these are all very send up questions, right like, uh,
51:45
Speaker 1: is it true that your to pay is made of
51:47
Speaker 1: body hair? Oh, it's real hair. It's not mine, but
51:50
Speaker 1: it's real, like like he's it's clearly as he said, though,
51:55
Speaker 1: I think in in good fund not all of the
51:57
Speaker 1: jokes aged well. But he's asked about what his views
52:02
Speaker 1: on you know, what was once referred to as women's
52:05
Speaker 1: live what I think is that as an age well
52:09
Speaker 1: even even in and of itself. But he was asked
52:10
Speaker 1: about his views on that, and he said, I unless
52:13
Speaker 1: I can do it, well, I think they have a
52:15
Speaker 1: right to work anywhere they want to, as long as
52:19
Speaker 1: they have dinner already when we want it. A That
52:30
Speaker 1: is verbatim because he's reading the room, John Wayne was
52:33
Speaker 1: I thought that was a good job, Wade boys. So
52:35
Speaker 1: when he finished and he was looking at the people
52:37
Speaker 1: of the room, he just went swinging just to circle
52:46
Speaker 1: back around, you know, just to go full circle. He
52:49
Speaker 1: was also asked, has President Nixon ever given you any
52:52
Speaker 1: suggestions for your movies, to which he responded, no, they've
52:56
Speaker 1: all been successful. Oh. I think it might be clear
53:03
Speaker 1: to most people listening, but he was notoriously right wing
53:08
Speaker 1: in his views and made no bones about it and
53:12
Speaker 1: was very open about it. And uh, you know, the
53:14
Speaker 1: Harvard National Lampoon was notoriously left wing with their views.
53:19
Speaker 1: So it's interesting for these two worlds to kind of clash, uh,
53:22
Speaker 1: and not create much more than a delightful clip and
53:26
Speaker 1: uh and some fun quotes. So that's really I guess
53:30
Speaker 1: kind of where it ends. I mean, he got a
53:32
Speaker 1: good response. Has he even heard if that clip that
53:33
Speaker 1: I played is in fact the one from this event,
53:36
Speaker 1: which really seems to be. He got a pretty warm response.
53:38
Speaker 1: He got some laughs. Um. In the New York Times article,
53:42
Speaker 1: they talked about even despite those sharp political divisions, at
53:45
Speaker 1: the end of the day, it was all kind of settled,
53:48
Speaker 1: was a quote with good humor and in the end
53:51
Speaker 1: thunderous applause. Um. And then on this one article that
53:55
Speaker 1: I found, there's a an embedded video. I haven't watched
53:59
Speaker 1: it yet, but the headline on it is fascinating and
54:01
Speaker 1: I'm very intrigued. Apparently Stalin once tried to have John
54:05
Speaker 1: Wayne killed for like I guess his embodiment of like
54:10
Speaker 1: American ingenuity. I don't know, but I Hitler wanted to
54:14
Speaker 1: kill Clark Gable. He gave a huge reward out if
54:17
Speaker 1: anybody could shoot down Clark Gable, because he actually did
54:20
Speaker 1: go to war and he was a bomber. He was
54:22
Speaker 1: flying over Europe, and they're like, if you can kill
54:24
Speaker 1: Clark Gable, no, don't kill him, bring him to me.
54:27
Speaker 1: You can bring me alive, Clark Gable, I will give
54:29
Speaker 1: you honors and trophies and a reward. And people tried
54:33
Speaker 1: and they could not do it. They could not shoot
54:34
Speaker 1: down Clark Gable and get him. And he knew about this,
54:37
Speaker 1: so he was constantly doing theseus aware that there was
54:39
Speaker 1: a bounty on his head, and he's like, I'd like
54:41
Speaker 1: to see him catchman Clark. Right. Yeah, that's a really
54:47
Speaker 1: interesting point. I think that is exactly the kind of
54:50
Speaker 1: thing that probably led to John Wayne being, you know,
54:55
Speaker 1: ribbed a little bit for his invasion of service. Well,
54:58
Speaker 1: Jimmy start also a bomb repile. There were a lot
55:00
Speaker 1: of his contemporaries who said, I'm a father, I'm a
55:03
Speaker 1: I'm a husband, I'm a star, and I'm gonna go
55:06
Speaker 1: to war because it matters. And they went to theaters
55:08
Speaker 1: where they were actually it could be killed. They were
55:11
Speaker 1: doing combat, you know, and like Jimmy Stewart flew I
55:13
Speaker 1: think like twenty or something bombing runs and you know,
55:16
Speaker 1: then you come back and it was like, wow, j Jeremy,
55:19
Speaker 1: Jimmy Stewart of a Nazi. Oh my god. I love
55:26
Speaker 1: the Jimmy Stewart impression. I think everyone is basically just
55:28
Speaker 1: doing Dana Carvey's Jimmy Stewart impression, which is just like
55:33
Speaker 1: it's all shake, it's a boy. He doesn't even really
55:36
Speaker 1: sound like that. Jimmy Stewart. I was doing Katherine Heppern.
55:39
Speaker 1: Wait what see exactly exactly? Those are kind of interchangeable
55:43
Speaker 1: in my mind, you know, not got off full of me,
55:45
Speaker 1: Jimmy Stewart. That was pretty That's pretty good. Um So
55:51
Speaker 1: there there it is, uh full circle with Nixon that
55:56
Speaker 1: I was also gonna say full circle in that you said,
55:59
Speaker 1: there's a embedded video here and I haven't watched it,
56:03
Speaker 1: but the headline grabbed me. It reminded me of what
56:05
Speaker 1: Elizabeth was saying about Ladies Night in Buffalo. You know,
56:10
Speaker 1: everybody's like, let's love it from a distance. Also, I
56:12
Speaker 1: wanted to point out, I don't know if it is accurate,
56:16
Speaker 1: but Ladies Knight in Buffalo the title is an interrogative,
56:21
Speaker 1: like like they're asking Ladies Night in Buffalo question mark.
56:26
Speaker 1: At least from the headline, I'm seeing that puts a
56:30
Speaker 1: whole different spin on it. For me. Again, I'm gonna like,
56:32
Speaker 1: you just rolled into Buffalo. You're like, probably Ladies Night
56:35
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, Ladies. I see it more. It's just he's painting.
56:40
Speaker 1: The title alone paints a very vivid picture for me.
56:44
Speaker 1: And then I do have to say, all right, I'll
56:47
Speaker 1: confess to you, guys, I listened to the song today.
56:49
Speaker 1: Why is he in on this Lady's Night in Buffalo?
56:52
Speaker 1: That's what I wanted, That's what he is just bearing
56:54
Speaker 1: witness to it. It's a celebration of women alone in
56:58
Speaker 1: the world together, you know, like something that most men
57:00
Speaker 1: would never see, like a ladies group in Buffalo. He
57:03
Speaker 1: has not a chronicler of the life and times of
57:06
Speaker 1: ladies in Buffalo. This Ladies Knight in Buffalo back up
57:11
Speaker 1: and David Lee Roth. He's secure enough in his masculinity
57:14
Speaker 1: to let them have the Knight in Buffalo because he
57:17
Speaker 1: knows if he waits it out, they're going to involve him.
57:21
Speaker 1: Game The Ladies Knight in Buffalo nine times out of
57:24
Speaker 1: ten ends with David David Lee Roth Morning in Buffalo
57:29
Speaker 1: Another David Lee Rock Morning. Oh. The concept album that
57:34
Speaker 1: he is surely going to have covered out as a
57:37
Speaker 1: as a follow up to this boggles the mind. Maybe
57:40
Speaker 1: there will even be some John Wayne samples on there.
57:43
Speaker 1: If so, they'll hopefully be from uh that hard hitting
57:47
Speaker 1: interview with the Harvard Lampoon. Who also learned from that
57:51
Speaker 1: New York Times article that members of the National Lampoon
57:56
Speaker 1: in Harvard are referred to as Poonies. Yes, yeah, but
58:02
Speaker 1: that's self identifying and they put that name on They
58:07
Speaker 1: they're excited about that, I think, right, they're they're proud
58:10
Speaker 1: of it. So it's it's not us bad now, they's
58:14
Speaker 1: not at all. But they put that out there. They
58:15
Speaker 1: want us to think of them as they do. I
58:19
Speaker 1: wonder if that's still a thing to this day. It
58:20
Speaker 1: seems like the kind of thing that would like stick around. Probably, Yeah,
58:24
Speaker 1: I gotta say I'm a little sad to be leaving
58:28
Speaker 1: this intentional two part episode, but boy, if we had adventures.
58:32
Speaker 1: We have touched on a lot of different historical celebrity
58:37
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58:45
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58:48
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58:50
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