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The Return of Tot Mom: TikTok Stardom as Casey Anthony Haters Beg ‘Go Away’ · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, The return of Top Mom.
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  Speaker 1: It feels like a dirt sandwich in my mouth, the
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  Speaker 1: return of Top Mom, TikTok, stardom ahead as Casey Anthony
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  Speaker 1: Hater's beg please go away.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for being with us today. A three year
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  Speaker 3: old game.
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  Speaker 2: Caley that brings it back home to the Discovery.
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  Speaker 4: And I went and looked at the spot where.
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  Speaker 1: Kelly Anthony's body was bagged in trash bags from Top Mom,
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  Speaker 1: Casey Anthony's home and thrown in a swampy area covered
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  Speaker 1: in trash and use tires, just out of a swamp.
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  Speaker 1: And that is where Kelly decomposed, this beautiful little girl,
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  Speaker 1: the shining light of her grandparents' eyes in a swamp, decaying.
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  Speaker 4: And now this I.
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  Speaker 5: Am a legal advocate. I am a researcher. I've been
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  Speaker 5: in the legal field since twenty eleven, and in this capacity,
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  Speaker 5: I feel that it's necessary, if I'm going to continue
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  Speaker 5: to operate appropriately as a legal advocate, that I start
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  Speaker 5: to advocate for myself and also advocate for my daughter.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, well I need to see that again.
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  Speaker 1: That's from Casey Anthony's official talk account at Casey Anthony
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  Speaker 1: Underscore substack ps.
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  Speaker 4: If you don't know what a substance.
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  Speaker 1: Means, it means money to her in her pocket. I'll
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  Speaker 1: explain it.
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  Speaker 2: I've I've got to see this again.
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  Speaker 5: I am a legal advocate. I am a researcher. I've
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  Speaker 5: been in the legal field since twenty eleven, and in
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  Speaker 5: this capacity, I feel that it's necessary if I'm going
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  Speaker 5: to continue to operate appropriately as a legal advocate, that
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  Speaker 5: I start to advocate for myself and also advocate for
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  Speaker 5: my daughter.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, that's some.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a top one Ksey Anthony's TikTok account at Casey
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  Speaker 1: Anthony underscore substec whoa whoa whoa legal advocate?
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  Speaker 4: No, you're not.
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  Speaker 1: You were trying for the murder of your little girl
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  Speaker 1: legal advocate my rear end and who did I hear
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  Speaker 1: her say? She's been involved? Let me look at this
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  Speaker 1: in the legal system since two thy eleven. You mean
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  Speaker 1: when you were tried for murder? Joining me an all
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  Speaker 1: star panel. But I just want to remind everybody what
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  Speaker 1: this is really about.
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  Speaker 4: No one would even know her name if you.
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  Speaker 2: Work for this, there's something wrong.
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  Speaker 6: I found my daughter's car today and it's not like
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  Speaker 6: percent a red body and the car.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, what is the three year old's name?
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  Speaker 6: Kaylee c A y l E E Anthony Hailey Anthony, Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 6: she white, black her Hispanics it's white.
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  Speaker 7: How long has she been missing for?
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  Speaker 6: I have not seen her since the seventh of June?
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  Speaker 2: What is her date of verse.
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  Speaker 6: Eight nine, two thousand three, two thousand and five. True, listen,
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  Speaker 6: But during.
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  Speaker 1: That is Cindy Anthony Killy's grandmother calling reporting her missing,
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  Speaker 1: not taught.
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  Speaker 4: Mom, her own mother. Advocate for my daughter.
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  Speaker 1: Advocate for my daughter, who call nine one one, not
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  Speaker 1: you listen.
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  Speaker 6: A month ago?
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  Speaker 7: Okay, I mean I understand. Can you just can you
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  Speaker 7: calm down for me? For this submitte and I don't
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  Speaker 7: even know what's going on.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, I'm gonna chin.
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  Speaker 1: Advocate for my daughter joining me. Joe Scott Morgan or
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  Speaker 1: now death investigative professor at Jacksonville State University, author of
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  Speaker 1: Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon and star of Body
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  Speaker 1: Bags with Joe Scott Morgan Reality Check. You know finding
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  Speaker 1: out that top Mom is offering a substack.
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  Speaker 4: In other words, you go listen to her.
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  Speaker 1: And she gets money, By the way, Joe Scott already
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  Speaker 1: just her announcement as has racked up over three million views.
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  Speaker 2: She gets paid for that.
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  Speaker 1: If there are ads in there, all that money is
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  Speaker 1: going into her pocket. Harsh reality. No one would even
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  Speaker 1: know her name if she had not been charged with
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  Speaker 1: murdering her daughter. Tell me what happened to Kelly.
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  Speaker 8: I can tell you what the end result was. All
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  Speaker 8: we have left now are skeletal remains period. As a
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  Speaker 8: matter of fact, her body, Nancy, was so badly decayed
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  Speaker 8: after they recovered it from that brushy area out there
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  Speaker 8: in that swamp like environment, that they could not even
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  Speaker 8: come to a conclusion about what her specific cause of death.
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  Speaker 8: It's non specified homicidal means. And it's as.
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  Speaker 1: Scott, excuse me, wasn't duct tape wrapped around.
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  Speaker 2: The baby's mouth and nose with.
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  Speaker 4: A heartstick or stuck on it? That gives me a.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty good idea as to how she died.
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  Speaker 4: You think you could survive with.
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  Speaker 2: Duct tape wrapped around your nose and mouth.
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  Speaker 8: I'll go one better than that. Nancy, it wasn't around
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  Speaker 8: her nose and mouth, it was around her skull. Just
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  Speaker 8: let that sink in. Just for a second, that's what
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  Speaker 8: was done.
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  Speaker 4: To this child.
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  Speaker 8: She's cast off like garbage, Nancy, and then you know,
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  Speaker 8: insult to injury. Here we're talking a month down range
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  Speaker 8: before anyone says peep about her missing, and all the
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  Speaker 8: while she's been out there just in a state of decay, Nancy.
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  Speaker 8: And as you know, Florida is a very harsh environment,
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  Speaker 8: there was hardly anything left that scientifically we could really
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  Speaker 8: hang our hats on to try to understand what it
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  Speaker 8: actually happened.
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  Speaker 1: To her, you know, just saying that, Joe Scott Morgan
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  Speaker 1: and think about it every day every day, Tot Mom,
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  Speaker 1: Casey Anthony would pass that spot, as I said, it's
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  Speaker 1: about ten houses down from the Anthony home and you
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  Speaker 1: come out of their cul de sac and if you
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  Speaker 1: turn right, well you have to pass it.
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  Speaker 4: Do you know, Joecot, I don't think I've ever told
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  Speaker 4: you this. I have never been back to where my
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  Speaker 4: fiance was murdered. Never.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I could stand to look at it.
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  Speaker 4: I know that's where he was murdered.
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  Speaker 1: But she passed this every day and never said a word.
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  Speaker 4: Day by day, think.
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  Speaker 1: About it, Joe Scott, As each hour passedes, what happened
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  Speaker 1: to Kelly's body?
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  Speaker 2: When did flyes show up and lay eggs?
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  Speaker 4: When did he.
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  Speaker 1: Her flesh start slipping off of her body? I know
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  Speaker 1: it's harsh, Joe Scott, but this is the reality.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, you're you're right, And in that environment, it's so
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  Speaker 8: harsh down there, Nancy. And to think that this person
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  Speaker 8: could have moved back and forth across this and you know,
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  Speaker 8: court said that she didn't know, or at least they
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  Speaker 8: didn't find her guilty of it. But come on, give
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  Speaker 8: me a break. You know you're driving by this every
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  Speaker 8: single day, and that precious little angel is out there,
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  Speaker 8: and it stated, Kay, I can't even begin to plumb
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  Speaker 8: the depths of how you.
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  Speaker 2: When I was first, Joe Scott, what happens first?
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  Speaker 4: But her body is in that bag? What happens in.
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  Speaker 1: The first five hours of her body being that bag?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, just within the first five hours, particularly in Florida,
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  Speaker 8: you're going to have the presence of flies being attracted
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  Speaker 8: to this area. And people say, well, she's in a bag.
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  Speaker 8: You know, they know flies always find a way they
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  Speaker 8: get in and then they begin or they kind of
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  Speaker 8: aid in this process of decomposition and it's sped up
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  Speaker 8: very very quickly in that environment, Nancy, and having worked
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  Speaker 8: in Louisiana, that's very similar to this. I've actually seen
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  Speaker 8: flags laid on the eyes and the mouth and the
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  Speaker 8: nose within three hours of death.
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  Speaker 1: Yet today top mom Casey Anthony returns to tick talk stardom.
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  Speaker 5: There are people close to me who have been targeted
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  Speaker 5: in attack recently.
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  Speaker 4: They are also people close.
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  Speaker 5: To me who have had some some recent things occur
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  Speaker 5: and when necessary, people needed to step up myself included.
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  Speaker 2: That is from at Casey Anthony underscore substack.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I just heard her say there.
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  Speaker 1: Are people close to me that I've been targeted, like Kelly,
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  Speaker 1: is your is your daughter there?
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  Speaker 7: Wind have song with them?
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  Speaker 2: Is your daughter there?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 7: Can I stepret her.
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  Speaker 4: Be winded by secret hers? Thank you?
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  Speaker 6: I call them two hours ago now taught here. Finally,
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  Speaker 6: there is a very problem.
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  Speaker 7: Ma'am, ma'am.
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  Speaker 1: We want to talk to you. Question.
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  Speaker 7: Hello, Hello, yes, hi, Well can you can you come
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  Speaker 7: you what's going on a little bit? I'm sorry, can
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  Speaker 7: you tell me a little what's going on? And my
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  Speaker 7: daughter's been received for the last thirty.
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  Speaker 6: One days and you know who has her? I know
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  Speaker 6: who the are I tried to contact her. I actually
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  Speaker 6: received a phone call today now from a number of
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  Speaker 6: this isn't no longer in service. I did get to
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  Speaker 6: speak to my daughter for about a moment, about a minute.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, did you guys follow me for a vehicle thorn?
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  Speaker 6: And yes, my mom did.
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  Speaker 4: All of that is a lie.
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  Speaker 1: She is describing her daughter being taken by the nanny,
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  Speaker 1: and today she's saying.
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  Speaker 2: People close to me have been targeted and attacked.
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  Speaker 1: Really, what about Zennia Fernanda's glazaals. That's a real person
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  Speaker 1: that was attacked and wrongly named by her as a kidnapper.
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  Speaker 2: That's a real person.
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  Speaker 4: That's a woman wandering around minding her own business.
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  Speaker 1: They got dragged into top Mond Casey Anthony's vortex.
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  Speaker 2: Listen. She even spells the name for peep's sake.
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  Speaker 7: You have her, you a name.
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  Speaker 6: Her name is Jay, that's Fernando and Sue Ellis.
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  Speaker 9: Baby.
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  Speaker 6: She has enally nanny for fout a year and almost
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  Speaker 6: two years.
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  Speaker 4: Why why are you calling now? Why didn't you call
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  Speaker 4: it thirty one days ago?
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  Speaker 6: I've been looking for her and have gone through other
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  Speaker 6: resources to try to find her, which was stupid.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, can you can you give me the name of
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  Speaker 7: the then nanny again like sell it out for me.
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  Speaker 10: Niva v E n ai ba, last name Rnandez Fernandez
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  Speaker 10: hyphen Gonzales.
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  Speaker 1: Man, what a liar she even knows how to put
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  Speaker 1: the hyphen Gonzales. There's actually a real person out there
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  Speaker 1: names and Night Fernandez Gonzales.
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  Speaker 2: And isn't it true? To Shannah Butler joining me right now?
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  Speaker 1: Investigative reporter WFTV Channel nine, Florida.
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  Speaker 2: This jurisdiction that when the apartment where tot.
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  Speaker 1: Mom says she dropped off baby Kelly was found by police,
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  Speaker 1: it had been vacant for one hundred and forty days,
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and forty.
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  Speaker 4: Days no one had lived there.
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  Speaker 1: Then when she took police to where she worked, to
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  Speaker 1: Universal Studios, she got all the way in the car
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  Speaker 1: with cops, all the way to the security gate, all
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  Speaker 1: the way through the security gate to the building, out
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  Speaker 1: of the car, walking in the building to find her boss,
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  Speaker 1: and she says, okay, you got me. I haven't worked
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  Speaker 1: here in three years, all the time wearing her Universal
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  Speaker 1: uniform with her tag. Her parents thinking she worked while
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  Speaker 1: she sat on the sofa in eight chips while they
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  Speaker 1: paid for Kelly, isn't all of that true?
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  Speaker 4: That is all true?
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  Speaker 11: I remember back then.
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  Speaker 12: I mean I did nothing but this story for three
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  Speaker 12: years here in Orlando. And I remember when we talked
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  Speaker 12: to the investigators after all of this happened. They said
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  Speaker 12: they had never met a better liar than Casey Anthony,
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  Speaker 12: that she was so stuck to those stories even when
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  Speaker 12: they were going through universe on there and she said,
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  Speaker 12: oh yeah, I don't work here. She was so defiant,
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  Speaker 12: they said, about the stories she was telling, almost looking
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  Speaker 12: at them like, you're a bunch of idiots.
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  Speaker 4: Hear what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 12: This is what happened, And she stuck to those stories,
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  Speaker 12: and they said that she was it was.
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  Speaker 4: It was a tough interview. I mean, look at her.
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  Speaker 12: You wouldn't think that she would be so married to
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  Speaker 12: those stories that these investigators could break her. They said
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  Speaker 12: she just kept going and kept going and kept going
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  Speaker 12: with those stories. That she either believed those lies or
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  Speaker 12: was just dead set on trying to make sure everyone
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  Speaker 12: else believed them too.
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  Speaker 4: I literally have nothing right now.
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  Speaker 7: I am so.
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  Speaker 4: Hurt by everything.
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  Speaker 13: And I watched that.
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  Speaker 14: Episode of Nancy Grace, the stuff that was being said
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  Speaker 14: about me and you don't you guys are not understanding
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  Speaker 14: my side on this. Come.
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  Speaker 1: What side is that that you murdered your daughter and
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  Speaker 1: left it to decay in a swamp ten houses down
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  Speaker 1: from the Anthony how and then went by her every day. Wait,
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  Speaker 1: maybe you didn't drive by it every day. Because of
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  Speaker 1: those thirty one days that your daughter was decomposing, you
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  Speaker 1: were slung up at your boyfriend's.
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  Speaker 4: House with all of his roommates.
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  Speaker 1: That's romantic, and according to him, you never acted like
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  Speaker 1: anything was wrong at all. I guess it bothers me
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  Speaker 1: more that Kelly was decomposing with flies all over her
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  Speaker 1: body while you were making spaghetti for him and his roommates. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that said in the last hours toddm I'm Casey Anthony's
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  Speaker 1: return to stardom TikTok fame.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, it's real. Listen for those of.
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  Speaker 5: You who don't know, my name is Kasey Anthony, my
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  Speaker 5: daughter is Kaylee Anthony. My parents are George and Cindy Anthony.
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  Speaker 5: This is not about them. This is not in response
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  Speaker 5: to anything that they have said or done. That's not
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  Speaker 5: to say that I'm not going to respond at some
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  Speaker 5: point to some of the things that they have said
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  Speaker 5: and done.
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  Speaker 1: That was from the TikTok account at Casey anthony underscore
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  Speaker 1: substate speaking of yours, Anthony, that.
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  Speaker 2: You dragged through the mud your own father.
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  Speaker 4: Listen.
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  Speaker 15: I remember being asked about this at the very beginning,
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  Speaker 15: when I talked about walking up to that car and
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  Speaker 15: getting about three feet away from it and the smell
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  Speaker 15: that emanated from that car. I could smell it three
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  Speaker 15: feet away on the passenger side when I opened up
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  Speaker 15: that card tour. Yeah, it smelled like decomposition, human decomposition.
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  Speaker 1: That's George Anthony, who I consider to be a friend
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  Speaker 1: from our friends at wesh WSH two News.
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  Speaker 2: But he had to take the.
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  Speaker 1: Stand and describing the overwhelming smell of human decomposition during
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  Speaker 1: the search for his granddaughter and straight out to Shannon
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  Speaker 1: Butler and WFTV that car.
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  Speaker 4: That smelled of human d coop? Whose car was that?
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  Speaker 4: Casey Anthony's speaking of George Listen.
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  Speaker 16: In Casey Anthony's version of events on Jene six teenth,
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  Speaker 16: two thousand and eight, Casey Anthony claimed she wasn't feeling
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  Speaker 16: well and got Kaylle to lay down with her. Anthony
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  Speaker 16: claims she was woken by her father shaking her and
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  Speaker 16: asking where Kaylee was.
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  Speaker 13: Casey Anthony claims she saw her father, George Anthony, holding
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  Speaker 13: Kaylee and that Kallie was soaking wet. She further claims
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  Speaker 13: that George Anthony handed Keaylle to her, saying it was
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  Speaker 13: all her fault. She claims George didn't want to call
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  Speaker 13: nine one one and wasn't trying to resuscitate her, so
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  Speaker 13: she left and stayed with her boyfriend at the time,
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  Speaker 13: Tony Lazarro for the next thirty one days. She claimed
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  Speaker 13: she believed Kaylee was alive.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let me understand this. You're the defense Attorny Troy Slayton.
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  Speaker 1: So she says, she laid down for a nap, woke up,
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  Speaker 1: Kelly was gone, and her dad said everything will be okay.
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  Speaker 1: After she sees Kelly lifeless and drenched soaked with water,
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  Speaker 1: so she says okay and goes this slings with.
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  Speaker 4: The boyfriend for the next month. Just yes, Note does
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  Speaker 4: that make sense to you? Her grandparent and took care
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  Speaker 4: of Kaylee all the time. This was not unusual.
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  Speaker 9: They she was at their house, she was with them,
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  Speaker 9: she was an integral part of the family, and it's
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  Speaker 9: not unusual for grandparents to look after their granddaughter.
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  Speaker 4: And this is a single mind.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to say, if he's keeping a straight
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  Speaker 1: face right now, children.
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  Speaker 4: I believe you do, don't you? I absolutely do?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So you see your child lifeless, lifeless, drenched, soaked
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  Speaker 1: in water.
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  Speaker 4: And what do you do?
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  Speaker 1: You leave and sling up at your lover's apartment for
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  Speaker 1: thirty one days?
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  Speaker 11: You know that?
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  Speaker 17: What? What are you?
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  Speaker 2: What are you babbling about?
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  Speaker 17: What is this?
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  Speaker 4: Gibberis sure the jury disagreed with you and agreed rising.
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  Speaker 2: You right now? Does it make sense to you?
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  Speaker 1: Is that what you would do if you saw your
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  Speaker 1: child lifeless, drenched?
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  Speaker 4: No, I knew that my child was dead.
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  Speaker 9: But you know what's really interesting is that thirty one
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  Speaker 9: days interesting? Suddenly the grandparents are calling the police, crying
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  Speaker 9: in tears, thirty one days after their granddaughter who was
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  Speaker 9: with them all the time is gone.
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  Speaker 4: Suddenly, on this thirty first day, they're calling the police.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's not what happened, Shannon Butler joining me, let
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  Speaker 1: me refresh your recollection, Troy Slayton, Shannon WFTV. Isn't true
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  Speaker 1: that during those thirty one days, top mom Casey Anthony
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  Speaker 1: would repeatedly tell her mother, Oh, we're here, We're there,
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  Speaker 1: We're at the grocery.
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  Speaker 2: Store, We're at Target.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, the nanny has her at the beach.
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  Speaker 1: She lied throughout and would never let Grandma Cindy Anthony
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  Speaker 1: speak to Kelly.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that true?
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  Speaker 4: That is correct?
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  Speaker 12: I mean she did give her parents a lot of
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  Speaker 12: stories pretending that Kaylee was okay. I think that the
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  Speaker 12: parents were concerned about it, but there was no indication
• 19:02
  Speaker 12: at that point that she was missing or had disappeared,
• 19:07
  Speaker 12: So it took some time. In their defense, you know,
• 19:10
  Speaker 12: it took some time because.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Of the stories that Casey was telling them, they had
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: no reason to think anything was amiss. Back to Rob
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Dick joining me, this is Top Mom's former bodyguard now
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: owner of Renegade Investigations. As a matter of fact, isn't
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: it true that when you dealt with Top Mom Casey Anthony, she.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Acted cool as a cucumber, like nothing was wrong.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: The entire time, that entire thirty one days that she
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: apparently had this baby, she acted like nothing was wrong.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: My point is her demeanor. What was her demeanor when
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: you were around her?
• 19:49
  Speaker 17: Rob Dick definitely not a person who is quote missing
• 19:53
  Speaker 17: a child I mean she never acted like that.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: She acted like there was nothing wrong.
• 19:59
  Speaker 17: Kaylee's name never came up. I mean, this is the
• 20:01
  Speaker 17: time when she's locked away in jail, comes out her
• 20:06
  Speaker 17: first public exposure. I mean, what would a normal mother
• 20:10
  Speaker 17: do be asking where are we at? What's going on?
• 20:12
  Speaker 17: Anybody heard anything? Not once is she bringing up Kaye?
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: You mean you had her in the car with you,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: You drove her to her parents' home where she has
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: been free loading for years. At any point with her
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: in the car, did she cry? Did she seem upset
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: that she say? I can't I've got to go find
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: my daughter. I can't find Kelly. Where's Kelly? Have you
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: heard about Kelly? What's the latest? I didn't have TV,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: I didn't have ready. What's happening with my daughter? Did
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: that ever happen?
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: Rob Dick?
• 20:43
  Speaker 17: Not once, not once did she bring her up or
• 20:46
  Speaker 17: even seem to care about looking for It was George
• 20:50
  Speaker 17: and Cindy that were trying to find any details, not her.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: Crime story with Nancy Grace.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Now Rob Dick. She says she is a legal advocate
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: for her daughter.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: I am a legal advocate, I am a researcher. I've
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: been in the legal field since twenty eleven, and in
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: this capacity, I feel that it's necessary if I'm going
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: to continue to operate appropriately as a legal advocate, that
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: I start to advocate for myself and also advocate for
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: my daughter.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Advocate for your daughter, legal advocate my rear end. Your
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: exposure to the justice system was when you were.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: Tried for murder.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: That is from at Casey Anthony underscore substack and it
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: will be a cold day in h double l before
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: I listen to one episode.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: And give one red penny to top mom.
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: How long have you been missing for?
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: My daughter's been missing for the last thirty one days?
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: Why are you calling now?
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Why didn't you call.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: Thy one days ago?
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: I have been looking for her.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Stupid lies, all lies.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: I want you to see on Twitter what populated last night.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: And I couldn't agree with you more. Chris says Nancy
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Casey Anthony's on TikTok claiming to be a legal advocate
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: justice for Peyton. When she says she was advocating for
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: her daughter, I felt physically ill seeing her follower count
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: up to over forty thousand, is nauseated. What the f
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: is wrong with these people? Camping life with all the
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: lies she told about her daughter. Who would believe a word?
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: She says, Sandy Cole, I could stomach sending you the video.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: But guess who's made a social media appearance and claiming
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: to be a legal advocate. I hope you're sitting down,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Yalayla says, where is Nancy Grace? Why is Kasey Anthony
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: on TikTok trying to make a platform for herself?
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Go yell at her.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Don't worry, I will, Lauren Colin, I'm going to. I
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: can't wait to hear you break down her filthy lies. Okay,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: let me go to my colleague Joe Scott Morgan just
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: for another reality check, Joe Scott, while we are watching
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Top Mom, Casey Anthony's return to stardom and TikTok fag fame.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: I never actually thought those words would come out of
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: my mouth, but they are. This isn't her first stab
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: at making money off her dead daughter again, how was
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Kelly's body found?
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Just turned three?
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: She got that big right there listening.
• 23:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah, she's found decomposing in the swamp, Nancy after being
• 23:43
  Speaker 8: cast off. But I've got one more for you as well.
• 23:46
  Speaker 8: Going back to what Rob had said earlier, with her
• 23:49
  Speaker 8: in the car with him. Her reaction. Remember what Dad said,
• 23:53
  Speaker 8: He went to the car and he smelled decomposition when
• 23:57
  Speaker 8: he got into the car. That doesn't just miracles happened.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 24:01
  Speaker 8: You can take a deceased person and put them in
• 24:03
  Speaker 8: the car and you're not going to have a whiff
• 24:06
  Speaker 8: of decomposition. It takes time for that to produce itself
• 24:10
  Speaker 8: and present. That baby was in that car for a
• 24:13
  Speaker 8: protracted period of time, traveling all about all the while
• 24:18
  Speaker 8: she's living the party life, you.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: Know, Doctor Bethany Marshall.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: When the trial occurred, we moved to Orlando for the
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: duration of the trial, and I had the twins with me.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: Do you know how many times I wish now.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I could have them at that age again, to you know,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: take care of them, to love them, to brush their hair.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: To take them to fun places to go. And I
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: think about this.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Child in a trash bag.
• 24:54
  Speaker 18: Nancy Kaylee was only a pawn for Casey Anthony. Listen
• 24:58
  Speaker 18: to what she says on this TikTok. She's going to
• 25:00
  Speaker 18: be a legal advocate for her daughter. She's just using
• 25:03
  Speaker 18: her daughter to manipulate the public to garner sympathy. You
• 25:06
  Speaker 18: know why she was living with her parents, right, George
• 25:09
  Speaker 18: and Cindy. She was living with them because she relegated
• 25:13
  Speaker 18: the care of her daughter to the grandparents. And finally,
• 25:17
  Speaker 18: Cindy Anthony goes and sees a therapist, and the therapist
• 25:21
  Speaker 18: says to Cindy Anthony, you need to get your daughter
• 25:25
  Speaker 18: to start taking care of the granddaughter. That is what
• 25:28
  Speaker 18: precipitated all of this. At this Cindy came home and
• 25:30
  Speaker 18: said to Kaylee, to Casey, you need to start taking
• 25:33
  Speaker 18: care of Kayleie.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Well you know what happened.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Then.
• 25:36
  Speaker 18: Casey had only been using her daughter as a pond
• 25:39
  Speaker 18: with her own grandparents. So as you used to say,
• 25:42
  Speaker 18: she could lie on the sofa, eat chips, go out
• 25:45
  Speaker 18: with other people, you know, just.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Live the high life.
• 25:47
  Speaker 18: This little girl was only used by her mother. And
• 25:52
  Speaker 18: anybody who begins to watch those TikTok videos is going
• 25:56
  Speaker 18: to participate in that exploitation.
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: Of a child. Thank you, doctor Bethany. I managed to
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: get myself together.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: One of the cardinal rules of trying a case or
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: analyzing a case is don't put yourself in the shoes
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: of the victim.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: And I just did that, thinking about my own children at.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: That tender age, I had them with me while I
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: covered the Top mon Casey Anthony trial and investigated it myself.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: But in the very latest top Mom Casey.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Anthony's return to TikTok stardom for any idiot that wants
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: to pay for it.
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: Listen, for those of you who don't know, my name
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: is Kasey Anthony, my daughter is Kaylee Anthony. My parents
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: are George and Cindy Anthony. This is not about them.
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: This is not in response to anything that they have
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: said or done. That's not to say that I'm not
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: going to respond at some point to some of the
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: things that they have said and done.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm sure she's going to attack her parents
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: because she once she rides her daughter's corpse to Helen back,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: then she'll have to find somebody else to attack, and
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: that would be George and Cindy. That is from at
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Casey Anthony underscore substance. That's the new TikTok accounts. And
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: speaking of George, he passed a Polly Top Mom.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Can't say that. Listen.
• 27:08
  Speaker 13: I didn't know where she was at, correct, That's all
• 27:10
  Speaker 13: I'm asking.
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: So the question again, did you knowingly conceal Kelly's wordlines.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: From our friends at any so, the story went from
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know where Kelly is to oh, yeah, you
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: know what. I was taking a nat with Kelly and
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: I woke up, she was gone and I started looking
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: for her, and the next thing I know, my dad
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: showed up and she was lifeless, drenched in water. And
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: I just went away and had sex with my boyfriend
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: for thirty one days. I thought everything would just be fine.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Well it went from that too. George Anthony molested me
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: and my daughter, and then he killed my daughter to
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: cover up the molestation. But there's another theory as to
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: why tot Mom hatched the molestation story.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Listen.
• 28:02
  Speaker 11: Cindy Anthony claims in the new special on A and
• 28:05
  Speaker 11: E Casey Anthony's parents, the Light Detector Test, that the
• 28:08
  Speaker 11: reason her daughter, Casey Anthony accused her father of molestation
• 28:12
  Speaker 11: is because she found out that her father, George Anthony,
• 28:15
  Speaker 11: was the main witness to testify against her in front
• 28:17
  Speaker 11: of the grand jury, besides the Sheriff's Department detective. When
• 28:20
  Speaker 11: asked why he testified in front of the grand jury,
• 28:23
  Speaker 11: George Anthony says he believed his daughter.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Casey Anthony belonged in jail.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: What about that defense attorney Troy Slayton joining us out
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: of la You gave me this big song and dance
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: about the baby, but what about dragging your own father
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: through the mud. He got up and testified and subjected
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: himself to cross examination on all of her lies about
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: him molesting little Cally.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: She didn't.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: She sat there silent and watched her parents be destroyed
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: on the stand.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: So it's okay with you that she drags them through
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: the mud as well.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Suddenly, when she on trial for murder, sheet remembers that
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: her dad sex molested her. Oh yes, she said her
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: brother sex molested her too, That she was molested and
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: so was Cally. And the whole reason her father, a
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: former cop, murdered Kelly is because he was covering up
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: molestation on a two year old little girl.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: Is that okay with you that she.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Drags down everybody around her and now she wants my money?
• 29:27
  Speaker 9: Do we only respect a jury verdict when the verdict
• 29:31
  Speaker 9: comes out the way we want.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm asking you about George.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: I'm asking you about George.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: You've already gotten on your soapbox about.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: A verdict and the juror say they regret what I'm
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: asking you about George dragging.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: Him through the mud.
• 29:48
  Speaker 9: Dragging him through the mud. This is the jury believed
• 29:51
  Speaker 9: what she said. Obviously the jury found that there was insufficience.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: That's not what they said. Well, they said they didn't
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: understand of dead.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: I'm asking you, how about her changing story and then
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: dragging George through the mud.
• 30:06
  Speaker 9: This wasn't where six people thought one thing and six
• 30:09
  Speaker 9: people thought another thing.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Or are going to address what she did to her father.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: Maybe it was true. We don't know whether or not
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: it was true.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Hey, hey, you better watch out Troy Slayton, because there
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: is something called oral slander defamation.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: It'll be a cold day in h double l that
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: I stand.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: By and let somebody claim George molested anybody you're calling.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: Casey, antell me it may be true, not guilty.
• 30:40
  Speaker 9: She has been exonerated by our criminal justice system, and
• 30:44
  Speaker 9: everybody here is branding her a murderer.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: And now she's making money off her daughter's dead body
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: and is threatening to drag George and Cindy to hell
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: him back again.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: Listen, can't you hear her?
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: For Pete's sake, for those of you who don't know.
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: My name is Casey Anthony, my daughter is Kaylee Anthony.
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: My parents are George and Cindy Anthony. This is not
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: about them. This is not in response to anything that
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: they have said or done. That's not to say that
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to respond at some point to some
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: of the things that they have said and done.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: TikTok at. Casey Anthony underscore substantic crime stories with Nancy Grace.
• 31:29
  Speaker 14: Can someone let me come on? My entire life has
• 31:33
  Speaker 14: been taken from me. Do you understand how I feel?
• 31:37
  Speaker 14: I mean, do you really understand how I feel on this?
• 31:40
  Speaker 14: But I'm just as much of a victim as the
• 31:42
  Speaker 14: rest of you.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Oh my stars, I'm just as much of a victim
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: as the rest of you.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: Speaking of all her lies on George Rob Dick.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Joining me, Casey Anthony's former bodyguard now owner Renegade Investigations,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Rob Dick. Isn't it true that after she was brought
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: home the first time before she was charged with murder,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: George Anthony physically attacked her, pushed her up against the wall,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: demanding to know where's Keihy?
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Isn't that true?
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 32:12
  Speaker 17: I was obviously at that point, George had no idea.
• 32:16
  Speaker 17: He wanted the answers. He knew that something had happened
• 32:19
  Speaker 17: to his granddaughter and he grabbed her. He wanted the
• 32:22
  Speaker 17: answers what happened to Kailey?
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: And this was in front of you as well as Cindy.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: But at any time did she say, Dad.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: You had her last? Remember when you got her out of.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: The pool after you molested her? Did any of that happen?
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: Rob Dick?
• 32:36
  Speaker 17: She never brought up those issues until trial.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Listen to more of Top Mom in her knee money
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: making venture.
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: As a proponent for the LGBTQ community for legal community
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: women's rights, I feel that it's important that I use
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: this platform that was thrust upon me and now look
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: at as a blessing as opposed to the curse that
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: it has been since two thousand and eight.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Translation, I'm broke and I need beer money. Quick question,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Joe Scott Morgan, When is menopause?
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: Just tell me quick? When is minopause?
• 33:09
  Speaker 8: It's variable depended upon the population and specific women. You
• 33:14
  Speaker 8: began to think about forty to fifty that time frame generally.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: So we're really not even close. She could still have
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: a baby.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: That's the only news. That could be worse.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Right now, Top Mom has her hand in my pocket
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: and everybody else is making money off her child. By
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: the way, that was from her TikTok account at Casey
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Anthony Underscore Substack.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: She could have another baby. It's possible.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, I'll say a silent prayer that that doesn't happen. Okay,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Now more of top Mom and her money grab.
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: As a proponent for the LGBTQ community, for legal community
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: women's rates, I feel that it's important that I use
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: this platform that was thrust upon me and now look
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: at as a blessing as opposed to the curse that
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: it has been since two thousand and eight.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: A proponent for the LGBTQ community. What did they ask
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: you to be their advocate? They have enough problems with
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: people attacking them every day just because of who they are.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Nothing more with friends like this, who needs an enemy?
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: I don't think they want.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: You advocating for them, taught mom, What like you advocated
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: for your daughter or your mother or your father who.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: You continue to take advantage of?
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: That is from a Top Mom's TikTok account at Casey
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Anthony Underscore substec There's more listen.
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: My goal is to continue to help give a voice
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: to people, to give people tools and resources that they
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: can utilize so they actually know where they can turn to.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Now here is the woman who is asking for your
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: money talking about privacy. I've never seen anything like it
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: since Harry and Megan and their worldwide Privacy tour.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: Listen.
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: I will explain in great detail why it's so important
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: for people to protect their privacy.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: It's not just.
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: Important to public figures, it's even more important to private individuals.
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: And with the current climate in our country especially, it's
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: that much more important.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: The current climate.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure, tot mom, the current climate has always
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: been anti murdering your child. That's from the official TikTok
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: account at Kase Anthony underscore subsect privacy. Let's see how
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: maintain your privacy. Possibly, don't get in a bar fight.
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: You just need a listener.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if you even said that to me, I can
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: sign to you.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: No, I haven't exceived for stuff like this on your file.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: Every train order.
• 35:57
  Speaker 15: I didn't have an.
• 36:00
  Speaker 16: Actual regrets her texting was not enough, or showing up.
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: Where I was was ub enough.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: This is enough in front of witnesses.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you I taught mom Kasey Anthony didn't file
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: a restraining order after that bar fight from our friends
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: at Channel six because nobody would believe that she was
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: the victim. There's more, maintain privacy. Don't get in the
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: bar fight again. I apologize, I said doing too.
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: Her friend here with several people that I filmed her
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: here are long here as witnesses. So I'm not trying
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: to file her training where I just wanted to sell and.
• 36:44
  Speaker 16: I don't want to training where at most for six months.
• 36:47
  Speaker 11: And it can go away well, And I'll put it
• 36:55
  Speaker 11: as verbal threats because he said that she.
• 36:57
  Speaker 19: Keeps calming out and you can you can tell she's
• 37:01
  Speaker 19: along with her TikTok video, Casey Anthony announces her deal
• 37:04
  Speaker 19: with Substack, a subscription based service that allows writers and
• 37:08
  Speaker 19: podcasters to release material directly to subscribers. Subscriptions to Anthony's
• 37:13
  Speaker 19: Substack channel costs ten dollars a month or one hundred
• 37:16
  Speaker 19: dollars annually, although she offers free subscriptions with limited content.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: One hundred dollars for an annual subscription to top Mom
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Casey Anthony's new TikTok.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Take a look at tot Mom's mother from our friends
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: at A and.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: E and to sit here and listen to her keep
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  Speaker 1: making different stories as it fitsle.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Sorry, doctor Bethony, why can't Cindy breathe?
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  Speaker 4: Right there?
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  Speaker 18: Cindy is having a panic attack. Her heart rate is elevated.
• 37:54
  Speaker 18: She's overwhelmed. She can't think because she is reminiscent about
• 38:00
  Speaker 18: her granddaughter's death. She's having intrusive thoughts and memories. She's
• 38:04
  Speaker 18: thinking about that little girl lying in a swamp. She's
• 38:08
  Speaker 18: being interviewed. So when people have trauma and they begin
• 38:12
  Speaker 18: to talk about the original event, it actually reactivates the trauma.
• 38:17
  Speaker 18: It's as if they're in it. Nancy, you've heard of
• 38:19
  Speaker 18: the term flashback with people who have post traumatic stress disorder.
• 38:22
  Speaker 18: They have flashbacks. She is in a flashback and George
• 38:28
  Speaker 18: knows how to comfort her. You know, this could have
• 38:31
  Speaker 18: torn this couple apart, but they have become more and
• 38:34
  Speaker 18: more solid over time. Unlike their daughter who's not bonded
• 38:39
  Speaker 18: with the granddaughter, this couple is bonded with each other
• 38:41
  Speaker 18: and they care and love They care for and love
• 38:44
  Speaker 18: each other.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: I just wonder what this new return where Tot Mom rears.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: Her ugly head.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Most people would run for the hills as if they
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: had seen a monster, but apparently they're nearly three thousand
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: subscribers as we go to air, but this is her
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: first money grab by far.
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: Listen.
• 39:02
  Speaker 16: In her ongoing effort to get a spotlight back on
• 39:05
  Speaker 16: her face, Casey Anthony is pitching a reality TV show
• 39:08
  Speaker 16: about her life. The proposals submitted on her behalf would
• 39:11
  Speaker 16: provide an intimate window into the daily life of one
• 39:14
  Speaker 16: of the most controversial women in America. The proposal says,
• 39:18
  Speaker 16: in each episode, Casey will go about her day working, socializing, dating.
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  Speaker 16: She will share her thoughts and opinions, and will give
• 39:25
  Speaker 16: an intimate look into her world. One Hollywood executive who
• 39:28
  Speaker 16: passed on the pitch says he hopes someone has the
• 39:31
  Speaker 16: guts to pick it up.
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: He wants to watch it a reality show.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: In each episode, Top Mom goes about her day working, socializing,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: and dating. To Shannon Butler joining me WFTV Channel nine.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: I can only imagine what this is doing to George
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: and Cindy Anthony the re emergence of Top Mom. She
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: says she will address her parents. She just released a
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: statement threatening people if they slander her or to fame her.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: I can only imagine what she's going to say about them.
• 40:03
  Speaker 12: You know, we still see them from time to time.
• 40:05
  Speaker 12: They still live here, they still have their home, and
• 40:08
  Speaker 12: I think what people maybe forget about what happened to
• 40:12
  Speaker 12: George and Cindya. It wasn't just what happened during that,
• 40:15
  Speaker 12: but there were long lasting effects here. I mean, their
• 40:18
  Speaker 12: house was in foreclosure, They had a hard time, you know,
• 40:21
  Speaker 12: getting jobs. He was in a horrible, horrible car accident
• 40:25
  Speaker 12: a few years ago. A lot has happened to them,
• 40:28
  Speaker 12: and it is difficult even now when you see them,
• 40:31
  Speaker 12: you know, at the grocery store or at a restaurant,
• 40:35
  Speaker 12: to imagine what these folks are going through. And I
• 40:39
  Speaker 12: think for them, they're always bracing for the next thing.
• 40:42
  Speaker 12: I don't think that many people are surprised that she
• 40:45
  Speaker 12: has now re emerged. I think that was always going
• 40:48
  Speaker 12: to be the plan down the road. But I think
• 40:53
  Speaker 12: that they prepare themselves for whatever is going to come next,
• 40:57
  Speaker 12: because for them, it just seems to never forever.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Let me remind everyone, as Troy Slayton has done so,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Tom I'm Casey Anthony was acquitted of murder. Of course,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: the jurors now say they regret that and they were wrong,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: But so what.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: She was acquitted.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: But every time that you subscribe or download her gibberish
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: and lies, you're putting another dollar.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: In her pocket.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: You as much as that jury has been shamed and ostracized,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: you're voting not guilty every time you give top mom
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: one red penny. Now we remember an American hero. Police officer,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Scott Fitzgerald. South Jacksonville, p d, Illinois, passed away in
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: the line of duty. Survived by wife A Danielle, children,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Colton Finley. American hero officer Scott Fitzgerald. Nancy Grace signing
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: off goodbye friend,