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Only You Can Prevent Forest Fires — A Conversation with Smokey Bear | Go Wildly Podcast · Go Wildly Podcast

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  Welcome to Season 2 of Go Wildly podcast.
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  We are Emily and Heather, 2 childhood friends who carry a
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  mic into wild places like rivers, trails, and forests with
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  Great. Sounds great.
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  Awesome. OK, Today on Go Wildly, we are
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  honored to be joined by a living legend, an icon, a public
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  servant who has been showing up rain, shine or drought for over
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  80 years. Smokey Bear.
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  Smokey was born out of one of the most devastating wildfire
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  seasons in American history. In the summer of 1944, when the
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  US Forest Service needed someone to carry a message that actually
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  stuck, they found their bare and the rest is history.
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  He spent 8 decades as the face of wildfire prevention,
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  delivering what may be the most recognized public safety message
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  ever created. You already know it.
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  You've always known it. Only you can prevent forest
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  fires. But here's the thing about
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  Smokey. He's not just a slogan.
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  He represents something real. Every fire lookout, every
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  controlled burn, every kid who grew up respecting the forest
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  because of a bear in a hat. That's his legacy.
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  He lives, of course, in the woods.
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  We assume he serves on no boards.
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  He has no LinkedIn. But his territory covers every
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  National Forest in the country, and his work is arguably more
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  urgent right now than it ever has been.
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  We're so pleased to talk with Smokey and his handlers, AJ and
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  Sarah about fire season, climate, and what it actually
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  takes to keep these wild places wild.
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  We are here at the $8 Mountain Boardwalk Trail.
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  We're going to find our way into the shade and hear about how we
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  can stop forest fires. How?
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  You can prevent forest fires. OK, let's go.
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  Let's. Get down there.
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  OK? Really.
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  Good. Apparently my occupation is
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  Wordsmith, but I do have to give some credit to AI because it's a
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  lot. It's a lot to take in, you know
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  a multitude of information and synthesize it down into a 62nd
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  live read intro that fits fits a vibe.
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  Let's go towards the shade, Smokey.
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  Does Smokey require a lot of direction?
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  He's. The mind of his own.
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  It does like learning things though.
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  Oh Oh yeah, this is your microphone.
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  Oh well, thank you. We, we, we feel like Smokey
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  would like this 'cause I'm sure his food is, is fish he likes.
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  Oh, he likes berries, OK. He's very.
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  Strictly vegetarian. I love that.
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  OK, cool. Awesome.
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  Do you? Who wants to sit?
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  Anybody. Smokey, do you want to sit?
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  No, I'm OK. I'm OK standing stand.
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  Behind. So here, let's do this hold.
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  Up OK here. Smokey, you come back behind and
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  then, and then I'll block you. In Get in here AJ.
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  Get in there. Get in here AJ, come on down.
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  AJ already said your name so. We know you're here.
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  You're locked in. Friends, aren't you glad I'm
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  back on the forest? How much?
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  Do you do do do do do do do? Do I have to show the fish?
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  Should it be better that way? You can if you want to.
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  It's holding our microphones. Yeah.
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  Normally we would have like lapel mics and everybody would
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  have one. But since we're down from 4 mics
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  to two mics, this makes it a little bit easier to share it
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  around. And it's our it's kind of our
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  mascot, our unofficial mascot. You can.
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  We can set that up as tripod and then you don't have to hold it
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  at all. 'Cause we're high tech like
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  that, it gets taller too. Any.
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  Animation or. What we perfect does Smokey
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  dance? No.
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  Perfect. OK, none.
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  Of that was recorded correct. We can cut it out.
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  OK, do. You want the chairs?
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  Do you not need them? We can sit if you guys want to
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  stand I. Don't need this, I'd rather.
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  Stand. I'll be a student, OK?
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  Oh, you want me to sit by Begin in the eye?
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  You guys can share a mic and we'll share a mic.
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  All right, All right, handlers, tell us what we need to know.
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  Take it. Away.
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  Well, only you can prevent forest fires.
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  Oh, we're done. That's all we need to know.
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  No smoke. He's, you know, he's the legend
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  here. So, you know, his whole spiel is
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  making sure that you're, you know, fire safe with all the all
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  the things that you do, especially your campfires.
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  You don't want to leave fires unattended and make sure that
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  they're out cold before we're leaving.
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  The three steps to make sure you're putting out your campfire
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  correctly is you're going to drown your campfire first with
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  water or cold sand or dirt. You're going to stir your
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  campfire really well. Hopefully you brought your
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  shovel like Smokey always brings, or find a big stick in
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  the woods. And then you may or may not have
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  to repeat those first two steps. And then the last step is
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  performed by an adult. And they are the ones that touch
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  and feel the campfire so that they can guarantee that it is
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  cold. So drown, stir and check.
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  Approved. How?
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  What is the best role that kids can play in that activity?
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  They really love the drowned and stir portion.
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  Get them involved. We reach out to pretty much all
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  the 2nd grade classrooms in Jackson and Josephine County in
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  the springtime through our Rogue Valley Fire Prevention Co-op.
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  We do team teaching and that's part of the curriculum, and the
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  lessons that we teach the kids is about how to put out your
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  campfire correctly. So we're starting them at an
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  early age, second grade. Do they get to practice it in
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  those lessons? Do you?
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  No, it's just more. Of a presentation, but we've got
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  pictures up on the screen, so visualization really helps.
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  Totally. I think the other real key
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  component about fire prevention is know before you go, if you're
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  going to be doing anything outdoor recreation in public
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  lands, know if there's fire restrictions in place ahead of
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  time. Where do people find out that
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  information? How do you know before you go?
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  Right, good question. You want to rattle?
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  Off so there's many spots that you could get on to our our
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  Forest Service website and you can find information on note
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  before you go there as well and includes all sorts of things
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  just about our local public use restrictions, things to be
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  paying attention to as you're driving into the woods, like not
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  dragging chains if you're towing a boat and and all sorts of
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  stuff. It's a great Ave. for folks to
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  really learn about, you know, fire prevention, safety
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  measures. I think default is if you just
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  Google search the Rogue River Siski National Forest, on our
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  homepage, there's going to be a tab that says alerts, and on
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  that alert page there will be if we have any area closures for
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  anything specific or when we do get to the time of the year when
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  we put in fire restrictions, those will be posted on that
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  website. There's also another great
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  website for the state, Southwest Oregon.
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  It's just, I think, just WS wo.org.
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  And that is also fire, fire restrictions and fire prevention
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  methods. Correct.
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  What kinds of places does Smokey get to go?
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  Oh, he goes all over. The country.
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  He's a very popular bear. He has his own zip code because
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  he gets so much mail. True.
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  Truly. Yep, truly does.
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  It's very famous. It kind of like Santa Claus.
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  You can just Santa Claus North Pole and it gets to him.
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  So it would just be Smokey Bear zip code.
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  What's the zip code? How do we mail?
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  How do we send mail to Smokey Bear?
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  We will put it in the show notes guys.
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  Yes, put it in the show notes. Does Smokey have a social media?
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  Smokey doesn't have his own, we'll call it Instagram page or
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  Facebook page, but very regularly he is hashtagged on
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  other agency websites, especially when he attends
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  community events. Like just this past weekend
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  Smokey Bear and I were at Shady Cove Fire District 4 had an open
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  house so we attended there and had a booth set up and some fire
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  activities and working with the local fire department there
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  cooperators. So it was a really good time.
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  Smokey really enjoys making sure the public knows how to be safe
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  in the woods is. That true Smokey?
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  Yeah. Do.
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  Can you sing? For us, the Smokey the Bear
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  song. I am not a singer, I thank.
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  You. I apologize you could hum the
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  tune maybe? Let's see Well, and this is the
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  Smokey the bear. That's what people think, but
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  it's actually Smokey Bear The. Smokey Hat does not have a
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  middle name. But the song, the old school
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  song, maybe it, maybe it does go Smokey the well, Smokey the
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  Bear. Smokey the bear, a prowling and
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  a growling and a sniff in the air.
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  He can sniff a fire or something.
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  Do you remember it? No.
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  I sent it to him before it's. Even lit a flame before it
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  starts. A flame before it starts.
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  There you go, I go. Good job, J Sing away.
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  Yeah, I know a little bit. That's my favorite part.
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  That's the one I remember. I.
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  Think those were? That song was originated in the
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  original campaign right back in the early or late 40s, early
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  50s. That's when Smokey Bear
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  originally came to form. Can we say a little more about
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  that? It was post World War 2 wanting
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  to be safe in the woods, not create any more catastrophe.
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  What was already going on in the country.
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  Lack of personnel to be out in the woods cause everyone was off
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  fighting the war. That was in the late 40s but in
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  1950 there was a large fire event down in New Mexico.
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  Remind me the name of the forest AJ?
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  The Lincoln National Forest. An actual bear cub was found
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  stranded up in the top of a tree by some firefighters and was
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  turned into the local Ranger and soon to be turned into the
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  Smokey Bear mascot for wildfire prevention.
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  I love that origin story. That's.
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  So cute. Talk about a pivotal experience
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  outside for a bear to be wandering through a forest fire
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  and then become a mascot against forest fires.
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  Wow. And if people want to find out
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  more about Smokey himself, where could they learn?
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  Learn more about Smokey or have a chance to meet Smokey.
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  Smokey doesn't have a schedule, so it's kind of hard to
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  advertise. He has a website.
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  Smokeybear.com Check out. But he does attend many events
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  this time of the year. This is Wildfire Maze, Wildfire
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  Preparedness Awareness Month, so there's usually a lot of
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  community events that he tries to make an appearance.
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  We'll Smokey Bee at the We'll Smokey bee at the Boat Neck
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  Parade this year. He.
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  Will. That's my.
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  That's me. Yay.
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  That's me and Smokey's origin. That's where my love for Smokey
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  started. Was the parade at Boat Nick
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  parade coming down the. He also will be attending
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  probably more than 1/4 of July parade this summer.
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  Wonderful, wonderful. 4th of July is my birthday.
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  There you go. So wonderful.
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  You and Smokey so connected. Yeah.
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  Love that. Does Smokey have an opinion on
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  fireworks? Well, fireworks are restricted
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  on public lands, federal public lands year round.
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  So we tell folks, oh, fireworks on public lands.
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  And if you are in an area where you can make sure you have your
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  bucket of water readily available, be fire safe when
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  you're adults are lighting the fireworks only, no children in
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  that part of the process. You just get to watch and have
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  fun. Excellent.
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  Would Smokey have any advice for his younger self?
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  Oh. Interesting question.
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  Question. Smokey, you think you got?
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  I mean, you've been pretty solid since day one.
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  You've been on a clear mission. You know what you're here, what
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  your purpose is, and you're fulfilling it.
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  And you've known since the very beginning.
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  Smokey's got a lot of friends, a lot of firefighter friends, a
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  lot of friends in the woods, friends in the fly around in the
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  air, friends that live in the play in the water.
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  So we're just trying to keep our environment safe.
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  Yes. So this, this shovel, is that
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  Smokey's preferred gear? Is this his favorite piece of
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  gear he always has on him? It's the best tool for stirring
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  up your campfire, yes. Perfect.
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  Yes, I can see. So shovel.
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  Guys, it's a great. Great gear piece to have with
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  you. Wonderful.
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  And well, we kind of already talked a little bit about
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  Smokey's legacy, but how do you think Smokey would want to be
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  remembered when his when his era comes to an end, if ever?
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  Hopefully it doesn't come to an end.
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  He has a great message. I think his legacy is just
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  making sure the public is educated and knows how to be
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  responsible and safe while they're out recreating in the
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  woods. Or he also can give us messages
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  about how to be safe on our own property.
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  He doesn't. Smokey doesn't necessarily come
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  and do the work, but we as prevention, wildfire prevention
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  officers educate the public on how to do home defense for their
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  how homes and property and continuing forward.
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  I guess he's a great message. He's never going to die.
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  No, he will live on forever. And I love that.
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  Yay. He's eternal.
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  Well, it should be, right? Firefighter fire.
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  Yeah. Wildfire.
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  Yeah. Awesome.
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  Thank you guys so much. Absolutely.
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  For everything. Do you want to do a wrap up?
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  Yeah. Well, yeah.
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  I guess our final question would be what advice for people
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  wanting to get into fire prevention, how they could, if,
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  if there are job opportunities in fire prevention, if there are
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  volunteer opportunities in fire prevention beyond just their own
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  personal maintenance of home, property, campground, how could
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  somebody who was interested in perhaps a career in fire
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  prevention get involved? Gotcha.
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  So USA Jobs is kind of our main application process for applying
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  for these kind of positions. There's many temporary positions
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  out there that, you know, cater to fire prevention that they can
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  come try it out and see if it's something that they're
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  interested in and learn more about, you know, fire prevention
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  and human caused statistics and things of that nature and just
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  help push the message just like Smokey likes.
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  Awesome. And yeah, any last tips on what
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  you want the people to know about Smokey and fire
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  prevention? Well 85% of all fires are caused
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  by humans so it's important to like said no before you go and
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  just be aware of things that can't start fires and just take
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  preventive action as best you can.
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  Doesn't take more than a couple minutes before you're going to
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  go outdoors, whether that's, you know, taking your RV out in the
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  woods to go camping for the weekend or campfire safety
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  specifically, or you're out recreating with dirt bikes or
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  OHP spark rusters. There's doesn't take very much
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  time to know a couple things before you go so that you're
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  making sure you're bringing up all your checklist equipment and
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  knowing if there's restrictions in place.
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  We really rely on the public to hopefully have a little bit of
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  background before they get to the forest.
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  The places they can't have fires, and they cannot.
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  So. Cuz there's more of us than
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  there are of for service employees and, and Smokey bears.
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  Awesome. Well, thank you so much for
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  coming out, taking the time to share, share yourselves and
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  share Smokey with us and for all the work that you do keeping our
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  environment safe and accessible. Yeah, Heather's so happy and
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  excited. Give Smokey a Hugger high 5.
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  And I'm Emily and. I'm Heather.
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  And together we're go wildly. Yay, nice.
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  Thanks guys. Yeah, we'll do.
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  We'll do some group photo and. Yeah.
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  Howdy friends, quick little pause on the adventure.
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  First of all, we just want to say thank you.
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  Truly. The fact that you're out there
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  listening to this weird little outdoor podcast we started means
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  We're just two little feral childhood besties that had an
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  idea, grab some microphones and decided to record conversations
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  with us. Now let's go wildly together.
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  Well, well, well. If it isn't, go wild.
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  Fancy meeting you here? What brings you around these
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  parts? Just thought I'd come out and do
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  some artwork. Oh you, well, you are an artist.
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  It's nice to see your art. You've got a thread hanging from
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  your from your hood. Well, yeah, that'll be fine.
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  It'll be OK. I Will Survive.
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  Good. I.
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  Hope so I Will Survive the threat.
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  Thank God, thank. God, I hope we also survive this
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  upcoming wildfire season. Oh.
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  Dude might be a little touch and go out there.
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  Might be will you adjust your mic to this side of your Oh yeah
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  sweater so that. Who's the MIC police now?
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  My God, I. Just want us to have really good
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  audio. We've had a few audio struggles
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  this season and. We're getting it dialed.
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  Yeah, we're figuring it out. Cool.
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  Is that OK? It's much better.
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  Thank you. Thank you.
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  Come again, Mama? I look forward to it.
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  Yeah, so the wildfire season. Yeah, it's coming in hot.
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  Literally, yeah, literally, so hot.
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  But like, I still just want to, like, put it out there.
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  I still have a little hope. Like, I'm like, you know what?
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  Who knows? We cannot predict the future,
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  but what's important is that the Forest Service is preparing for
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  the worst. Yes, and that we are all playing
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  our part in that. There are more of us out here in
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  the world, in the country, in the region than there are Forest
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  Service employees. Even if they are stacking their
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  staff with like 10s of thousands of people getting prepared for
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  wildfire season, we can make all of their jobs way easier by
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  preparing our homes and recreating smartly and safely.
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  Absolutely, and 9 out of 10 wildfires are created by humans.
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  Yeah, isn't that insane? Insane.
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  Like not just arson, but mostly from negligence.
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  Well, and that's what people typically think too.
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  They're like, you know, oh, somebody started that on
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  purpose. That's not somebody could have
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  just accidentally me, you somebody else dragging a
• 22:16
  trailer, going camping and the chains are a little too long and
• 22:20
  it sparks something and it's just boom, there goes something,
• 22:23
  you know, I don't know. Or they're using a gas powered
• 22:26
  chainsaw. Maybe any kind of chainsaw.
• 22:28
  I don't know a. Weed eater even.
• 22:30
  Yeah, and just sparks flying, maybe like romance starts a
• 22:35
  fire. No, some start something, start
• 22:38
  something also, you know, starting Speaking of like any
• 22:42
  sort of fire, any sort of anything you got to light, you
• 22:44
  know, it's like you got to think about that.
• 22:46
  Fire. Fire needs oxygen, fuel and
• 22:50
  heat, and so if there's any of those all together in one place,
• 22:56
  there's going to be a fire. Yeah.
• 22:59
  Part of my like spring preparing for summer, I clean out all my
• 23:04
  gutters so that there's not leftover leaf debris in there.
• 23:08
  So if there are any embers flying through the sky, they're
• 23:11
  not going to catch debris on my roof or in my gutters.
• 23:15
  I make sure that my trailer chains are tight and not going
• 23:20
  to be dragging when I'm pulling my trailer.
• 23:22
  I cut down all of the dry grass in my yard and keep those
• 23:28
  grasses short as soon as possible.
• 23:31
  As soon as they start growing, I'm cutting them down.
• 23:33
  I don't want them to ever grow tall.
• 23:34
  Well, yeah, and that's something that we really have to worry
• 23:36
  about is like wildfires. You can have an urban wildfire,
• 23:40
  which is what happened in Southern Oregon here if how many
• 23:44
  years ago now. Six years ago, Six years ago and
• 23:46
  Emily September 8th, 2020. Yeah, and Emily was directly
• 23:51
  affected by that fire. So that was.
• 23:53
  Living in talent, I was evacuated and it was terrifying.
• 23:57
  My home didn't burn but several many of my friends homes burned
• 24:02
  and I was driving out of town being chased by fire and fucking
• 24:09
  terrified. Yeah, Well, even even me during
• 24:12
  that time, it worried me so much that it was coming down the
• 24:15
  highway that I had a storage unit with all of my catering
• 24:19
  equipment on the highway. You know, like on I-5 there on
• 24:23
  the corridor. And I went and got renter's
• 24:26
  insurance just to be on the safe side of like if it continued to
• 24:30
  barrel down the highway, my all my catering stuff would be taken
• 24:34
  care of in my storage unit. One of the scariest things about
• 24:37
  that I'll meet a fire in September 2020 wasn't just, I
• 24:42
  mean every part of it was scary was watching my friends homes
• 24:46
  burn, hearing propane tanks explode, watching it just tear
• 24:51
  through neighborhoods and communities.
• 24:54
  But an other level of terror that it delivered to me at least
• 24:59
  was I evacuated to Grants Pass. I was living in talent, came to
• 25:02
  Grants Pass, evacuated to my dad's house.
• 25:05
  And while being evacuated, then the fire started up in the
• 25:10
  Umpqua and the fire started out in Smith River area and it just
• 25:16
  felt. And then there was a fire in
• 25:17
  Eagle Point and it just felt like fuck.
• 25:20
  We're stuck. Where are you going?
• 25:21
  Where are we? Going, there's nowhere to go.
• 25:22
  We can't go South, we can't go north, we can't go east, we
• 25:25
  can't go West. All of these we are in a bowl
• 25:28
  surrounded by fire and they're all going.
• 25:31
  If they keep going, they're all going to eventually just connect
• 25:35
  here in Grants Pass and we're all doomed.
• 25:38
  Shit, that's so. Fearful, yeah.
• 25:40
  I like what that's what you think during wildfire.
• 25:42
  Yeah. If you're being threatened by
• 25:43
  wildfire, I mean, that's the scariest thing ever.
• 25:46
  You. It's you can't, at least for me,
• 25:49
  it was really hard to sleep. It was really hard to eat.
• 25:51
  It was really hard to think about anything else other than
• 25:54
  the complete devastation that was happening all around.
• 25:58
  And at the time, I was also on the City Council in talent, so I
• 26:01
  had to show up in a government role for my community.
• 26:06
  And I was also going through the initial destruction or like
• 26:12
  awareness of the destruction of my marriage.
• 26:14
  So I was a total fucking hot mess and.
• 26:17
  Dude. Oh and then a month later my dad
• 26:19
  got diagnosed with stage 4 cancer so.
• 26:23
  Emily's really felt the effects of fire.
• 26:26
  Yeah, and how it spreads like wildfire.
• 26:28
  The Yeah, my my community was under fire, myself was under
• 26:33
  fire, my marriage was under fire, my family was under fire.
• 26:37
  And then as my dad was dying two years later, that was when the
• 26:43
  rogue was on fire in 2022. That's right.
• 26:45
  And that felt extra rough and heavy was like, wow, the place
• 26:52
  where my dad feels most at home and I feel like is most
• 26:56
  reflective and representative of who he is, is burning.
• 27:00
  And all of our friends said, like, the river was mourning the
• 27:04
  imminent loss of my dad. And that was yeah.
• 27:07
  That's a lot. Beautiful and heavy so yeah Fire
• 27:09
  and I, we have a certain kind of relationship and I.
• 27:16
  Rose from the ashes for sure, but.
• 27:19
  Call me a Phoenix. For real.
• 27:21
  But also it's like all of that could be prevented.
• 27:25
  All of that potentially could have been prevented because of
• 27:28
  fire is caused like by human situation and then fueled by the
• 27:34
  climate conditions. So but.
• 27:36
  It also fueled by like if possibly if more people had had
• 27:41
  more safe space around their homes, less flammable material,
• 27:46
  both organic and inorganic in towns around their home, there
• 27:50
  would have been less fuel to propel the fire.
• 27:52
  Granted, it was very propelled by wind and dry conditions, but
• 27:57
  anything that we can do to slow delay.
• 28:00
  Yes, and that's a hot take would be that people think that the
• 28:04
  only the houses in the rural communities are going to be
• 28:07
  affected, but that went through the downtown urban area.
• 28:12
  And so that means that those commercial building owners and
• 28:15
  businesses can also take action and just be a little bit more
• 28:20
  prepared. I mean, even to the extent of
• 28:22
  like having an evacuation plan and, you know, having maybe a
• 28:26
  little bug out plan. Make sure all of your important
• 28:29
  documents are in a safe to go space like where you can just
• 28:32
  grab and take them just in case. Like these are all things that
• 28:36
  just when the time comes, you're going to be happy that you
• 28:40
  prepared ahead of time and now is the month to do that.
• 28:43
  Now is the month to prepare. Yeah, because it's Wildfire
• 28:46
  Preparedness Month. Yeah, awareness.
• 28:48
  Awareness. And also be prepared.
• 28:50
  Because to be, to be prepared is to be aware, and to be aware is
• 28:54
  to be prepared. Absolutely.
• 28:55
  They are symbiotic. They go hand in hand.
• 28:59
  They do. They absolutely do.
• 29:01
  Did you know that the Smokey the Bear actually started in 1944
• 29:08
  through like a campaign obviously, about wildfire
• 29:10
  prevention and awareness? Yeah, because there was a big
• 29:13
  fire. Yeah, there was like a huge.
• 29:15
  There were tons of fires, yeah. Tons of fires.
• 29:17
  It's been happening forever. Yeah.
• 29:18
  But then in 1950, an actual baby bear was found up in a tree
• 29:25
  during a wildfire in New Mexico. And, and they rescued him.
• 29:30
  Paws burnt. He was in shambles.
• 29:32
  But he, yes, but he became Smokey.
• 29:36
  And they like deemed him Smokey. And then since that, like the
• 29:40
  whole campaign had a heartbeat. I love that because, like, now
• 29:44
  there's actually a Smokey. Yeah.
• 29:46
  The bear. It's not just a cartoon, it's
• 29:47
  actually a costume. Yeah, but it's actually Smokey
• 29:50
  Bear. Smokey Bear?
• 29:51
  That's. The is not is not his middle
• 29:53
  name. Yeah, but just like the in go
• 29:55
  wildly, sometimes we call it the go wildly.
• 29:57
  Podcast. And sometimes we don't.
• 29:59
  It's really not in the LLC name, which I'm sure it's not in.
• 30:02
  Yeah, it's Smokey Bear. But it became a real life thing,
• 30:06
  which is really cool and it made it real.
• 30:08
  I love that. Yeah, it's pretty cute.
• 30:11
  One of the things that I really that came out of that Almeida
• 30:15
  fire for me was a great increase in fire aware information,
• 30:23
  having all of the websites and apps and links bookmarked on my
• 30:29
  phone and on my computer so that I would know there's a lot,
• 30:32
  there's so many. There's like, but they're all
• 30:34
  like, really essential. Yeah.
• 30:36
  Like, I didn't know that. I remember when there was
• 30:38
  wildfires happening around and I would be like, where am I going?
• 30:42
  What am I seeing? Like I don't want to go and just
• 30:44
  see something on Facebook because that could have been
• 30:46
  like 16 hours ago. It was updated, right?
• 30:49
  So like being able to see first hand at these websites.
• 30:53
  There are, and I do have a few of them here if we want to talk.
• 30:55
  About it my favorite 1 is probably the watch duty app
• 31:00
  because it signals when fire has been reported and it keeps
• 31:06
  updates. There's I think they're just
• 31:07
  volunteers who monitor it and they update every time
• 31:12
  information comes through on the scanner of resources that have
• 31:16
  arrived how much the fire has changed.
• 31:18
  They're also, I believe, channeling in all of the
• 31:21
  information from all the different services, BLM, rural
• 31:25
  metro, city, fire, and being like a hub of of all of the
• 31:32
  information that's out. There, that's the number one
• 31:34
  place. To go, I think watch duty is the
• 31:36
  bomb. Watch Duty.
• 31:37
  OK, cool. And then also the Rogue River
• 31:41
  Syscu Forest Service Facebook page, they keep that super
• 31:45
  updated. There's more frequently updated
• 31:48
  information on Facebook than on websites.
• 31:51
  So finding the Facebook page for the Forest Service entity in
• 31:58
  your region here it would be the rogue versus skew region.
• 32:01
  They will give updates like hourly, sometimes depending on
• 32:05
  what the status of the fire is, but minimum a morning update and
• 32:09
  an evening update of growth and service resources and personnel
• 32:15
  and what action has been taken on a fire.
• 32:18
  There's also an Air now. Yeah.
• 32:22
  Fire.airnow.gov for like all the air quality to protect your
• 32:27
  lungs, because that's also a thing when we inevitably get the
• 32:31
  fires that comes. We're in a bowl here in Grants
• 32:34
  Pass in particular. Yeah.
• 32:35
  And it just settles. So we want to like be a little
• 32:37
  bit more cautious of like, am I? Is it healthy, safe to be
• 32:42
  outside even if there isn't a fire in our direct region?
• 32:45
  Because of the way the air currents work around the globe,
• 32:48
  we could be receiving smoke from Alaska, Canada, Japan.
• 32:54
  Yeah. How it just?
• 32:56
  Yeah. Because we're all connected,
• 32:57
  what happens here in our air and in our water is going to go
• 33:01
  other places also and vice versa.
• 33:03
  So and that's sometimes the question that I see often on
• 33:07
  Facebook and in conversation is like, where's this smoke coming
• 33:10
  from? There's not a fire near us.
• 33:11
  So that Air Now app and website can be really helpful in seeing
• 33:16
  how the smoke is traveling through the air currents and
• 33:20
  where it's coming from. Yeah, that's a really good one.
• 33:25
  I got some other little fun things that we can do.
• 33:29
  Tell. Me sorry, I just kind of like
• 33:30
  let you chat. I was actually you're looking.
• 33:32
  At like. Where?
• 33:33
  Cuz I know there's a ton. Of how dare you just let me
• 33:36
  chat? I know this is what it's all
• 33:38
  about. Miss always interrupting me I'm.
• 33:44
  Getting better. You are.
• 33:45
  I am very. I'm I'm like this now.
• 33:47
  Yeah, you raise your hand. I raise my finger.
• 33:50
  Could I please speak? Yes, thank you, Mama.
• 33:54
  OK, so couple other things we can do.
• 33:56
  Did you know that your Cadillac catalytic catalytic converter,
• 34:01
  Jesus Christ, your catalytic converter runs hot enough to
• 34:05
  ignite like brush like this sort of stuff behind us.
• 34:08
  Yeah, so don't park your cars over dry grass.
• 34:11
  Park on gravel or cement, don't freaking draw or asphalt,
• 34:16
  whatever. Don't drive your hot ass vehicle
• 34:19
  through dry terrain. You can very easily spark a
• 34:22
  fire. Totally.
• 34:23
  And then like when you're camping this summer, you
• 34:25
  definitely I feel like this one was we're really safe about
• 34:29
  this. Me and Sean for sure when we're
• 34:31
  camping of like digging up the fire, putting it out more water,
• 34:34
  making sure it's cool to the touch, like that much water.
• 34:42
  Material. Drowned, like, and when I say
• 34:45
  material, I mean like dirt, like we just continuing to stir,
• 34:48
  bring in fresh dirt, stir, drowned out until it's like
• 34:52
  super, super dialed in and gone. Yeah.
• 34:54
  When we leave. Yeah.
• 34:56
  It's so scary to show up to a campsite and see.
• 34:59
  That has happened. Smoke.
• 35:00
  Yeah, to me before. I'm like, oh shit.
• 35:03
  Like did they just leave? I hope so because like.
• 35:07
  Even still, if they just left, they should not have left until
• 35:10
  they made sure that their campfire was completely out.
• 35:12
  And I think some people just like they see that it's like
• 35:16
  it's smoking but not, but not flaming.
• 35:19
  And they're like, oh, we're good.
• 35:20
  Yeah. Like take the extra step because
• 35:22
  like 9 out of 10 wildfires are human caused.
• 35:26
  Like if you just do that that. Spend an extra minute an.
• 35:31
  Extra, do a little extra, go signal that virtue and like do
• 35:36
  it and go, you know, if somebody's left around you in
• 35:39
  the campsite, go check theirs. Like go to a little sweep of it.
• 35:43
  Pick up trash while you're at it.
• 35:44
  Like let's think about our neighbor.
• 35:47
  Let's think about going above and beyond this season to make
• 35:50
  sure that everybody is safe. Absolutely leave places better
• 35:53
  than we found them in the sense of cleanliness and safety.
• 35:58
  And, you know, don't wait, don't see something and think, oh,
• 36:02
  somebody else is going to come by and deal with that because
• 36:05
  that's what the next 10 people are going to think also.
• 36:07
  And they're it. The situation is just waiting
• 36:10
  for somebody to say, I'm going to take care of this.
• 36:13
  And it could be you. And you don't need to do it for
• 36:17
  fame or virtue or recognition. Just do it because it's the
• 36:21
  right fucking thing to do, right?
• 36:22
  Right. You know, I like that.
• 36:26
  OK, what else? I have a little thing.
• 36:28
  A little. Well, we're covering some good
• 36:33
  bases here from our little Flyers.
• 36:36
  You can go to Smokey the Bear, You can go to
• 36:38
  smokeybearsmokeybear.com not Smokey the Bear.
• 36:41
  You can say that it's totally. Fine, Yeah, we're not gonna tell
• 36:44
  you you're wrong. So yeah, visit smokeybear.com.
• 36:48
  Also, Smokey Bear has an Instagram.
• 36:51
  He does. So he does have an Instagram.
• 36:54
  He's got a bunch of followers. He's so famous.
• 36:56
  He really does. He has like 25,000 some odd
• 36:59
  followers, maybe even more than that.
• 37:01
  He'd be doing it. Yeah, he's an icon.
• 37:04
  He's a legend. Comment down below if you want
• 37:09
  to see me get a tattoo of Smokey the Bear.
• 37:13
  I want to see you get a tattoo of Smokey the Bear.
• 37:16
  I do want one. One thing that I really like
• 37:19
  that I see people do is in their vehicles, they carry water and a
• 37:25
  shovel and fire extinguishers because one of the big things
• 37:28
  that I see always happening is vehicle fires on the freeway.
• 37:32
  Yeah, that happens. And that starts grass fires.
• 37:34
  And those can be prevented when an otherwise innocent Dr.
• 37:39
  Stander. I'll workshop that just somebody
• 37:43
  else driving by sees a vehicle smoking and oh, they have water,
• 37:47
  they have a fire extinguisher and many vehicle fires have been
• 37:52
  stopped because other people came in and saved the day.
• 37:56
  Did you know that there is a person don't know who blah blah
• 38:01
  blah, and I think they're still doing it, but they leave gallons
• 38:04
  of water up on the the Mount Sexton every year.
• 38:08
  Really like just in. Places.
• 38:10
  That's so kind of them, yeah. Just to kind of like if somebody
• 38:13
  needs water anytime, if it happens, there's some water
• 38:18
  there. Yeah, yeah.
• 38:19
  So in like little points if you've seen that.
• 38:23
  Thanks, whoever that is. You're looking out for all of
• 38:25
  us. Yeah, I think that's kind of
• 38:26
  like a fun little thing to have to just have some extra water.
• 38:29
  You don't have to drink it. So don't worry about it getting
• 38:31
  hot and, like, all the, like, Kimmies and stuff like that.
• 38:34
  Just, like, just have it for you.
• 38:35
  Just never know. Yeah.
• 38:36
  Like, I would use it to, like, wash my, my toddler's ass if he
• 38:40
  decided to shit in his pants on the side of the road.
• 38:43
  We're on a road trip. I mean, you know, it could come
• 38:45
  in many uses. Absolutely yeah having non
• 38:48
  drinking water in your vehicle can save you from shit or fire.
• 38:54
  Cleaning your feet before you get in the car.
• 38:56
  Yeah. You know, from a river day.
• 38:58
  Sandy dirty. Just like, it's just so nice.
• 39:00
  Yeah. Just have it.
• 39:01
  I always keep. Like I said, I think in the
• 39:03
  episode that we chatted about, I don't know if it was with Molly
• 39:06
  or not, but I like to keep a big old trash bag, some trash bags
• 39:10
  in my car because I like to pick up stuff.
• 39:13
  I like to pick up trash when I'm out and about.
• 39:15
  Like there's a bunch of trash here at the Ruin at Tom Pierce
• 39:19
  Park. That's where we are.
• 39:21
  Jinx. You owe me to lunch.
• 39:25
  It was like both of them were just a little off, but like the
• 39:28
  same. Yeah, I am gonna buy you lunch
• 39:32
  today. Thank you.
• 39:32
  We'll do. A food review?
• 39:33
  You have to go check out my Instagram.
• 39:35
  Yeah, if if those of you who are listening and watching don't
• 39:38
  know that Heather has a very active Instagram and TikTok
• 39:41
  where one of her claims to fame is doing totally volunteer food
• 39:47
  reviews and honest. I'm overly honest.
• 39:52
  No, I think you're perfectly honest.
• 39:55
  It's wonderful and informative and entertaining.
• 39:58
  I try my little personality. I think sparkles.
• 40:02
  It really knows, I think. So cool.
• 40:06
  What else can we say? Let me see those.
• 40:08
  Here, look at these. Well, just knowing, yeah, I
• 40:12
  think one of the main points also that Smokey was really
• 40:15
  driving home, was knowing before you go looking at where you're
• 40:19
  going, what the fire restrictions are, making sure
• 40:21
  you have all of the. There's a checklist.
• 40:24
  I love a checklist. There's a home checklist to make
• 40:27
  sure your fire your home is defensible against fire.
• 40:30
  This is this one is from the Firewise USA.
• 40:33
  They, yeah, they do really great work on making sure homes are
• 40:37
  defensible, making sure you have at least 5 feet of cleared area
• 40:41
  around the perimeter of your home, cutting, limbing up trees.
• 40:48
  Like, yeah, they have lots of great programs here in our wild
• 40:54
  urban interface. Did you know that there is the
• 40:58
  Forest Service has like 28,000 plus firefighters on the ready
• 41:04
  like fully trained, fully ready to like arm up into battle.
• 41:08
  And it's a really great Becoming a wildland firefighter is a
• 41:13
  great seasonal work that pays what I hear very well.
• 41:17
  And brings in great skills, physical labor skills, endurance
• 41:23
  skills, community skills. Everybody that I know who's ever
• 41:28
  spent time as a wildland firefighter loves it.
• 41:31
  We've had one wildland. Have we had more than one wild
• 41:33
  land on? Yeah, we've had Calvin was a
• 41:35
  wildland firefighter. Miguel is a hotshot firefighter.
• 41:39
  Sophie does volunteer. That's right, We'll link all
• 41:42
  those down below if you want to go check out what the wildland
• 41:46
  firefighters say about wildland fire.
• 41:49
  They love it and. Yeah, it's kind of addicting, I
• 41:52
  hear, because it's seasonal work, so you get like a huge
• 41:54
  break and then it's like really satisfying and you come home
• 41:57
  with a chunk of money. Yeah, that's legit.
• 41:59
  Yeah. And then like Miguel is hot shop
• 42:03
  firefighter, so most of his working time is during summer
• 42:07
  fire season. But he's employed year round and
• 42:10
  so year round he is training for wildfire season.
• 42:14
  That's so cool. So, you know, he's not just like
• 42:18
  hobbling into some warehouse and picking up the hose for the
• 42:22
  first time. He trains like a like year
• 42:29
  round, he is training for carrying heavy loads up hills
• 42:34
  and running and he's badass. And I think a number one thing
• 42:39
  to. Shout out Miguel.
• 42:40
  Shout out Miguel. Love my friend Miguel.
• 42:42
  And Chelsea. Yay, Chelsea.
• 42:45
  Hi Chelsea, We know you're destiny and we love you.
• 42:47
  Yes, shout out. OK.
• 42:50
  Also, I don't think that I'm going to do the ride tomorrow.
• 42:52
  I'll, I'll call you anyway because she's gonna come out
• 42:56
  today. She's.
• 42:56
  Gonna come out today but she may not listen to it today.
• 42:59
  Anyway, she'll she'll see it. OK, Also I didn't you know,
• 43:03
  another thing that we can do if if nothing else we could
• 43:07
  literally just before we go out camping or any overnight into
• 43:13
  the woods, we can see what what the limitations are around.
• 43:18
  Fire at that. Fire restrictions.
• 43:19
  Yeah, Yeah. No, before you go.
• 43:21
  Yep. So that's a big thing.
• 43:22
  Know before you go. Yeah, check the weather and also
• 43:25
  know where you're going, like know where you are in relation
• 43:31
  to other resources, other people.
• 43:35
  So if a fire starts in your vicinity, you know how to get
• 43:39
  out of wherever you are. Yeah, you know the route out,
• 43:43
  route out. Yeah, maybe there's what does
• 43:46
  that may bring in suck if there's one way in and one way
• 43:49
  out and like that's the only way you can get in.
• 43:51
  And what if something happens? You got to stay alert.
• 43:53
  Just, you know, relax, have fun out there, but like, stay
• 43:56
  cautious and stay aware. We have to recreate very
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  differently now than we did than people did 30405060 a hundred
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  years ago. There's way more people on this
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  planet. Social media, you're seeing more
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  information. We're seeing more information,
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  but there's way more people in the world, which means that
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  there are more people recreating and.
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  I think Molly said that in the interview, that there's just
• 44:22
  more people out there recreating and it's neither a good thing or
• 44:25
  a bad thing. Yeah, it's great.
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  It just is what it. Is it is what it is.
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  But we need to make some accommodations and not think
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  like, oh, well, back in my day, I never had to know any of these
• 44:34
  things or have a satellite phone or let anybody know where I was
• 44:38
  going. And I did fine.
• 44:39
  I'm still here. Yeah.
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  And our our wildfires are bigger, more aggressive, faster
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  than they were back then. We have more people out
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  recreating. And we have these resources to
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  keep us in our community safer now.
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  So why wouldn't why wouldn't we use them?
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  Yeah, we don't have to be. That's great.
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  We don't have to have cell phone service and be scrolling on
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  Instagram while you're in the wilderness.
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  But you could have a satellite phone that somebody could shoot
• 45:07
  you a little message to say, hey, there's a fire where you
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  are because I know where you are because you told me.
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  Also, just check out your weather conditions too, not just
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  fire restrictions, but make sure you know what the weather's
• 45:18
  doing. If it's scorching hot and it's
• 45:20
  going to be hella windy and but also there's a storm coming
• 45:23
  through at night like that, man, it's a little sketch.
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  A little sketch, not going to lie.
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  Yeah, Like, maybe reconsider. Change your plans.
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  Yeah, go to a different location.
• 45:32
  Yeah. Or change your timing.
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  Because you can find trees in a lot of places.
• 45:36
  Yeah. There's trees everywhere.
• 45:38
  There's trees pretty much everywhere.
• 45:39
  And don't be done with fireworks.
• 45:42
  Oh dude, we had that big fire in the gorge because some kids
• 45:46
  hiked up there and set off fireworks.
• 45:47
  Wasn't that so sad? Yeah, like don't be done for
• 45:53
  one, and then don't be done with fireworks.
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  I'd like to know what happened like what was the consequences
• 45:58
  to that because like. You never went to prison, I
• 46:01
  think. I mean, they devastated so many.
• 46:05
  That was it. Millions of dollars of damage
• 46:09
  and terror. Yeah, I'm pretty sure they went
• 46:13
  to prison. Yeah, if anybody's ever been in
• 46:15
  a wildfire, like I've just seen it, like on the Rogue, like
• 46:19
  driving by or whatever, right? And it's like literal terror.
• 46:23
  Yeah, it looks like a horror movie.
• 46:25
  The psychological damage caused from that people incur from
• 46:30
  evacuating from a fire or just witnessing wildfire is
• 46:34
  devastating. Yeah, I have lots of friends who
• 46:37
  had to evacuate from the Almeda fire and many of whom's homes
• 46:41
  burned that still deal with PTSD.
• 46:43
  And in the summer, they are legitimately scared to leave
• 46:47
  their homes because of what if it happens again and they're not
• 46:51
  there to get their animals out and get their things out like.
• 46:54
  Oh, that's another one. All us ranching people and stuff
• 46:57
  that might be listening, I don't know, like horse people, people
• 47:00
  with hobby farms. If we have any listeners of that
• 47:03
  sort on here, I hope we do. I hope we do same.
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  Yeah, I think Deanne listens. My horse friend.
• 47:10
  Deanne, let's make sure you have a evacuation set up ready to go
• 47:15
  into the summertime for your, all your animals at your house.
• 47:18
  Make sure you have a friend that's willing to, you know,
• 47:21
  maybe a couple friends that are like, hey, you can always board
• 47:23
  a horse here if we need to get out in a quick amount of time.
• 47:26
  Let's think about. That that is one of the first
• 47:28
  things that I see in response to urban wildfires, people on it
• 47:32
  corrals and barn saying bring your farm animals here.
• 47:36
  Which is great, but have it set up.
• 47:37
  Don't like be freaking out and rushing at the last minute.
• 47:40
  Don't. Wait to see a post on Facebook.
• 47:42
  Just get it done in places that you know you can go to.
• 47:45
  Get it dialed. Yeah, now, like literally this
• 47:48
  is the month. Call up a few friends.
• 47:50
  Hey, can I get your horse trailer on evac?
• 47:52
  Like just do a simple text message to like be like, hey,
• 47:55
  I'm just kind of preparing for the worst here.
• 47:57
  And I know a lot of people are, but like.
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  Community is such a big influence in wildfire
• 48:06
  prevention. Knowing who you can call, who
• 48:09
  you can go to, who you can take things to.
• 48:12
  Having a network of people, kind of like a little phone tree.
• 48:16
  I know I'm on some friends like evac list that if they needed
• 48:20
  to, they're in Phoenix. If they need to evac towards
• 48:23
  Grants Pass, I'm the person they're going to call and vice
• 48:25
  versa. Like we know that we're on each
• 48:28
  other's emergency list. Cool, that's so sick.
• 48:31
  Well. Yeah, community know before you
• 48:33
  go, don't be dumb. Use the resources that are
• 48:37
  available. Yes, pack it in, pack it out.
• 48:41
  Write us a comment. We'll drown your fire.
• 48:42
  We'll answer it. We'll try to answer the best of
• 48:44
  our ability. Yeah, we have friends in the
• 48:47
  Forest Service and we have friends in wildland
• 48:49
  firefighting. So if you ask us a question,
• 48:53
  excuse me, about green juice. Yeah, about wildfire prevention.
• 48:59
  We'll get it answered. Practical action that we can
• 49:02
  take as individuals today, right now, to protect ourselves from
• 49:07
  wildfires. Yep.
• 49:09
  That's not even. It's just this is wildfire
• 49:11
  prevention. This is wildfire prevention,
• 49:13
  Yeah. There are going to be wildfires
• 49:16
  and how do we respond to those? These tips here.
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  Yes, I love it. Thanks.
• 49:21
  Well, thank you. I'm Heather.
• 49:23
  I'm Emily. Together go wildly.
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  You're. So funny.
• 49:30
  Oh girl, I like your purple pants.
• 49:33
  Thank you. Checking out your butt too, it's
• 49:35
  looking good. Thank you.
• 49:36
  I'm going to keep that in. That's a wrap on this episode of
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