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Inside The OIG Interview: The Testimony Of An Unnamed R&D Officer From MCC (Part 1) (5/7/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to take a
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  look at the interview from the R and D correctional
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  officer from MCC and her interview with the OIG inspectors.
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  All right, so we're going to skip the whole swearing
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  in part and we're just going to pick up with
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  her answering the questions. Question. I want to again clarify
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  this interview is specifically regarding inmate Jeffrey Epstein on August
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  ninth and tenth, twenty nineteen. I'm going to go through
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  some background questions. What's your current home address? Answer my
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  current home address? Question yeah, answer, Why is that relevant
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  for this? One of the other investigators jumps in. You
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  don't have to provide that. If you have anything any
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  kind of like a PIV card, you can show us
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  just so we can verify who it is that you are. Answer,
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  you know what, I left it at my desk. Question
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  that's okay. Do you mind providing us your date of
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  birth and the last four of your social Security number? Answer? Yeah, redacted?
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  Is my date of birth and the last four of
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  my social security redacted? Question what's your highest level of education.
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  Answer a master's degree. Question okay? And what answer inspector,
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  general investigations, fraud, abuse of corrections, Organizational assessment and monitoring.
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  Question you know more about this stuff than us? Then?
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  Which college? Answer John Jay? Question? And what about bachelor's answer?
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  My bachelor was correctional administration. Question what did you do
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  prior to working for the BOP? The other investigator jumps in,
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  ask her about where this stuff was and when she
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  got these degrees? Answer? I got my master's in twenty seventeen,
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  I got my BA and I believe two thousand and six.
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  Question also from John Jay. Answer yeah. Question okay, and
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  what so prior to working for the GOP? What did
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  you do? Answer? Juvenile corrections question where answer Virginia. Question
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  is that with the state or the city? Answer yeah,
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  State Department of Juvenile Justice? Question was that directly before
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  the BOP? Answer yeah? Question what years they can be? Approximate?
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  Answer approximately? I think two thousand and six or two
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  thousand and seven to two thousand and nine when I
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  started here. Question okay, do you have any military service?
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  Answer no? Question and how long have you served with
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  the Federal Bureau of Prisons? Answer approximately now two thousand
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  and nine, twenty nineteen is ten years twenty twenty one.
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  I'm going on eleven and a half years. Question eleven
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  and a half years. And when was your enter on
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  duty date? Answer nine thirteen, two thousand and nine. Question
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  When did you graduate from BOP training? Answer? I don't
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  remember that? Question? When did you begin your career here
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  at MCC answer March of twenty eleven? Question and what
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  was your position at that point? Answer? Correctional officer? Question
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  What is your composition? Answer correctional systems officer? Question and
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  what's your regular schedule right now? Answer? Twelve to eight
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  Monday through Friday. What does your position entail? What is that? Answer?
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  Receiving in discharge R and D. By the way, movement,
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  I deal with state risk, federal risk detainers, pending charges, warrants.
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  What else? Question and that's outside of custody? Answer yeah?
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  Question okay? What's your grade level? Answer? GS eight? Question eight? Okay?
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  What was your position on August ninth and tenth, twenty
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  nineteen answer? I was a correctional systems officer, but I
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  was working overtime in custody. I don't even know what
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  day that it is. Question August ninth is a Friday,
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  and August tenth is a Saturday. I can provide you
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  the dailies and the roster for MCC and that's for
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  August ninth and tenth. If you look at that, you'll
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  be able to He gets cut off by the other
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  investigator provider. Also the timesheet. Is this your timesheet for
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  the same time period? Answer? I normally write everything on
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  a calendar, but looks like my timesheet. Question. So the
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  timesheet is for August fourth all the way to August seventeenth,
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  for the ninth Where does this time sheet show that
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  you worked? Answer this, It doesn't show where you're working.
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  It just shows the hours you've worked. Question is it
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  coded under a certain entry? And it looks like her
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  lawyer jumps in here, Well, just ask her, do you
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  know by looking at these documents, do you know where
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  on August ninth and tenth you were working? This is
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  not an I got you whatsoever, Just like, do you
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  recall on August ninth indiscernible working? Actually it's not her
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  loyal it's the other investigator. The problem is these names
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  were adacted, so it takes a little bit to discern
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  who's who. Sometimes, so it doesn't look like she has
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  a lawyer with her, and that it's actually the other
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  investigator who's jumping in. Answer, well, I know that this
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  is a custody overtime code for the overtime sheets. She
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  gets cut off by the investigator if it doesn't state
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  that's okay. Answer, It's possible, because I do. I was
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  working a lot of overtime, so but I can't recall
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  off the top of my head. But I know I
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  did work the evening of the Epstein situation. So question
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  when you say evening, answer the morning that he hung himself.
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  Question okay, so according to the August tenth schedule, find
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  yourself on the schedule, what were you listed for? Answer?
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  Control one? Question Control one? Okay. Do you recall being
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  interviewed by recall interviewing with the OIG regarding the Epstein
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  investigation in twenty nineteen. Answer I remember being interviewed. Question okay.
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  What I have is a summary of the report written
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  by the FBI. Was the FBI also present? Answer yes,
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  question we did get a copy of it because the
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  OIG was present for the interview. Also, I'm going to
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  read a portion of the interview record for you. The
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  other investigator. Does it state when she worked on August
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  ninth or tenth? That might help clarify things. Question for
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  the tenth it does, and so I'm going to read
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  it as I read through it. It's just a summary
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  for the record. Please tell me if there's any corrections
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  and let me know and we'll address it. Controls duties
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  including monitoring the activity on the range, answering calls from coos,
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  replying on the radio, and opening doors answer monitoring you.
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  At that time, we didn't have cameras on the ranges,
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  so you could only see the center, which is like
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  they consider it the NPA multipurpose area of the unit,
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  So you're not able to see down the actual ranges
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  of the unit. So no, I wouldn't say the range.
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  I would say the multipurpose area. Question multipurpose area of
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  the ranges and redacted, did I pronounce it right? Stated
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  that no one is really moving anywhere within the institution.
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  Account sheet is called the E one and it is
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  printed off from the internal MCC system calls sentry Control
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  validates all respondent numbers from the head counts and marks
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  and X on the E one sheet to confirm the count.
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  This happens for every check of every unit. E one's
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  are supplemented with count slips and are properly filled out
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  and stapled to the E one timesheet. Once all headcount
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  numbers are verified to be correct, everything is documented, recorded,
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  and then considered to be a good count. Redacted beginner
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  shift on August tenth, at twelve midnight to eight am.
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  Redacted stated that Lieutenant redacted took care of the twelve
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  o'clock that day. I'm going to pause right here. I'm
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  going to ask you a question. Do you recall coming
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  on a shift that day? Answer yes? Question do you
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  recall the first count would be at twelve midnight? Answer yes?
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  Question and were you in control when the count happened?
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  Answer yes? Question who took the count? Answer? I don't
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  remember at that time. I don't remember all this time ago.
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  But if I said the lieutenant took the count at
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  that time, then that's who took the count, because every
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  lieutenant is required to take account one count per shift. Question,
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  but you don't recall the exact situation. The other investigator
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  jumps in. I think what he's asking was, was Lieutenant
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  redacted in the control with you? Answer? At some point
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  in time. Yeah, she was. Question so if she was
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  taking the count, does that mean that she's doing from control? Answer? Yeah,
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  she's doing it from control. Question okay. Redacted recalled that
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  co Thomas and this says co O Noel. But is
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  that Thomas answered Noel? Question COO Noel worked in the
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  Shoe on the day of the incident. Redacted stated that
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  Noel was fairly new. Redacted stated that she does not
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  pay specific attention to just one individual screen during her
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  shifts since so much is going on. Redacted stated that
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  extension six' four six' eight is a number that's called
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  for reporting. The count if a lieutenant is on the
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  unit for, the count then this is when it's considered a.
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  Watch call on the three am and five am, Watch
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  calls redacted ran. The counts redacted or recalled That the
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  shoe called in the count of the day and that
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  the count. Was accurate redacted does not recall who called
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  in the count From, the shoe but recall that the
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  number was. Seventy two redacted stated that there are folders
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  that are filed that are compiled with count verification time
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  sheets for every day of the. Calendar year answer that.
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  Is correct QUESTION so i ask You on, august tenth
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  you said that you worked at midnight. In control. Answer
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  yeah question do you recall if you Worked on? August?
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  NINTH answer i. PROBABLY did i don't recall that this
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  far from now, to THEN but i probably most likely work,
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  that day and if it's on the roster and it's on,
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  my timesheet. Most. Likely, yes question but you wouldn't happen
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  to recall if you worked an INTERNAL or R. And.
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  D answer I know I worked R and d because
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  that's my regular position. And CUSTODY anything i did in
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  custody would be considered overtime. For me, question okay So on, august,
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  Ninth bye based, on that it wouldn't tell he gets.
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  Cut off it did. Say overtime it did say overtime. An,
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  internal question but internal Is not is that the SAME
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  as R. And? D, ANSWER no R and d is a.
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  CORRECTIONAL service R and d is. Correctional systems those are two.
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  Different departments this is CUSTODY and R and d is.
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  Non Custody question so by this were you? In? Custody,
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  ANSWER yes i. Was there, question okay so you were
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  working in internal NOT an R and d, answer yes,
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  question okay do you recall who your supervisor was when
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  you worked AT the Mcc on august ninth. And, TENTH
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  answer i would only know by looking at the Roster redacted.
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  Lieutenant redacted question so your report only? To redacted or
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  do you report to any? Other CEOs, answer no she's
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  the only supervisor on duty during. That time question during,
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  the night and so both days it was midnight to?
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  Eight am, answer yes, question okay was she also? A supervisor.
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  Answer yes, all right we're gonna wrap up, right here
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  and then the next episode dealing with, the topic we're
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  gonna pick up where we. Left off all the information
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  that goes with this episode can be found in the.
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