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Furness Show 9-9: Gregg Bell, Corbin Smith, Stewart Mandel · The Ian Furness Show

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Speaker 1: Good five down here, Occidental jamming people everywhere. Man, I'm
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Speaker 1: going to tell you, Anders, oh, my God, the NFL fan,
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Speaker 1: he and she, the NFL fan, it's just a different animal.
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Speaker 1: The NFL fan is a different animal. You love to
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Speaker 1: see it. And I love it. This is not a criticism.
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Speaker 1: In fact, it's to the contrary. But we are five
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Speaker 1: hours and 20 minutes away from kickoff. I've talked to
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Speaker 1: a number of people here. Jimmy's on first already. They're
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Speaker 1: not going to the baseball game. They're just here getting
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Speaker 1: after it. I got a table next to me.
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Speaker 2: How many deep?
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Speaker 1: How many deep are we? Dude man with a gray
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Speaker 1: Zabel jersey.
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Speaker 2: Already I can tell. You have a gray Zabel jersey.
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Speaker 1: Who I know at some point played some offensive line. 100%
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Speaker 1: a guard, not a tackle. A beard that would Make
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Speaker 1: Bucky's old beard look, put it to shame.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: We are at least four shots of bourbon into the day.
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Speaker 4: Wow.
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Speaker 1: Table of four. And I'm going to say each of
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Speaker 1: the four has had at least two. And on top
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Speaker 1: of that, and this is where I have great respect,
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Speaker 1: vitamin R everywhere. Vitamin R, baby. Right. 16-ounce Rainier cans.
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Speaker 5: Love it.
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Speaker 1: Filling the table at a hotel bar.
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Speaker 2: Love it.
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Speaker 1: That, ladies and gentlemen, is getting after it. That is
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Speaker 1: what an NFL fan is. And one of the things,
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Speaker 1: honest to God, somebody asked me, I was talking to
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Speaker 1: somebody yesterday, we had our Old Man Fantasy Football League draft,
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Speaker 1: and somebody asked me, he goes, hey, did you miss
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Speaker 1: traveling and doing all the games and all that? And
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Speaker 1: I said, not really. I kind of at the end
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Speaker 1: was just, I was so burned out with the travel
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Speaker 1: and the two jobs, and not that I don't have
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Speaker 1: two jobs now, but at least there's no travel necessarily
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Speaker 1: at the Kraken, but I was burned out. The thing
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Speaker 1: I miss... Is going around, and I say this to
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Speaker 1: people all the time, if you're a diehard NFL fan
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Speaker 1: or Seahawks fan, go out and see some other stadiums.
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Speaker 1: Because you're going to find your like person somewhere else.
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Speaker 1: Whether it be in Cincinnati, maybe not so much LA,
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Speaker 1: but Cincinnati, maybe in the parking lot at Levi's Stadium.
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Speaker 1: They actually have great time. Levi's team has great tailgating.
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Speaker 2: Oh, good to know.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, really good. But you're going to find your like
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Speaker 1: man or woman, your person. You're going to find your people.
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Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is the NFL fan,
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Speaker 1: he and she, they're all the same. They are all
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Speaker 1: the same. Very like-minded, huh? They're just different jerseys they're
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Speaker 1: being worn. But, I mean, let's just get after it.
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Speaker 1: Like I was always amazed when we go to the
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Speaker 1: East Coast and it's an 8.30 start in the East
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Speaker 1: Coast for a primetime game. And people are getting after
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Speaker 1: it at like 11 in the morning. Oh, my God. Like,
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Speaker 1: let's just go. Like, I don't have the wherewithal to
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Speaker 1: do that anymore.
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Speaker 6: No.
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Speaker 1: Go Cougs. At some point, you start running out of
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Speaker 1: gas a little bit.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: But I love it. The NFL fan. When I'm driving
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Speaker 1: down First Avenue South, just to paint the picture, we're
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Speaker 1: already tailgating.
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Speaker 2: Love it.
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Speaker 1: We're already tailgating.
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Speaker 3: I love it.
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Speaker 1: Like, why wouldn't we be? It's opening day. Defending the title.
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Speaker 1: The Lombardi Trophy is here in Seattle. And they're defending
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Speaker 1: that title against the New England Patriots today. 5-20 kickoff.
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Speaker 1: Let's go, man. Let's go. We had a great, by
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Speaker 1: the way, we had a great roundtable this morning. Chuck
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Speaker 1: and Softie and Fane and I had a really good
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Speaker 1: time talking about everything.
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Speaker 2: Talk about a gong show.
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Speaker 3: My God.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a gong show. It was 100% a
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Speaker 1: gong show. But we had a great time today talking
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Speaker 1: all things Seahawks. And the one thing, and we'll talk,
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Speaker 1: Greg Cosell is going to join us here in a
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Speaker 1: few minutes. We'll talk Sam Darnold and the season upcoming
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Speaker 1: with the guru of all things NFL Films. And, Anders,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you one simple question when Greg
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Speaker 1: comes on. What is it that he can tell us?
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Speaker 2: I think he can only tell us what's on the tape, Ian.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 1: I want to confirm that.
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Speaker 2: Only what's on the tape.
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Speaker 1: I'm not a fan. I don't pick sides. I can
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Speaker 1: just tell you what's on the tape, and he'll tell us.
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Speaker 7: The tape's talking to me.
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Speaker 1: It is talking to him. God, you know it's football season.
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Speaker 1: Play that again. This is football season.
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Speaker 7: The tape's talking to me.
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Speaker 1: This is football season, man. This is foot, by the way,
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Speaker 1: and I'll make sense of this later. You're going to
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Speaker 1: miss that, buddy. You're going to miss that.
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Speaker 2: I really am.
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Speaker 1: You're going to miss that. We'll get more to that
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Speaker 1: later in the week, but you're going to miss that.
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Speaker 2: I really am.
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Speaker 1: But, yeah, we'll talk to Cosell in a second. The
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Speaker 1: thing that I kind of came away with our roundtable today,
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Speaker 1: I do have some concerns for this team.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I do have some concerns, and they're basically just depth-related
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Speaker 1: and they're injury-related. And one of the things we mentioned
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Speaker 1: this morning with the Rams is, and what could be
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Speaker 1: the Rams' possible downfall, and honestly, what will probably be
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Speaker 1: the 49ers' downfall at some point, whether it's this year
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Speaker 1: or next, what have you. When your roster is so
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Speaker 1: top-heavy with salaries and talent, it's hard to fill it
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Speaker 1: out with quality backups.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 1: Unless they're young and they're rookies. Now, we go back
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Speaker 1: in time, and... One of the things that happened after
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Speaker 1: the 2013 Super Bowl, the Seahawks lost a lot of dudes,
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Speaker 1: especially guys that were key role players, special teams players,
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Speaker 1: backups in the secondary, especially in the secondary, right tackle,
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Speaker 1: all those places you lost guys. They didn't lose as
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Speaker 1: many this year, but made the decision financially, no Kenneth Walker,
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Speaker 1: and I think the running back depth is a concern.
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Speaker 1: When Charbonnet comes back, if he's healthy, then maybe it
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Speaker 1: won't be. If both he and Price are healthy, then
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Speaker 1: you're in good shape. But it doesn't take much to
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Speaker 1: have a depth issue at that position. Sorry, Corbin, if
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Speaker 1: you're listening. Helani is just a guy.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: All right?
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And until proven otherwise, so is Emmanuel Wilson. Maybe he will.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to trust Hugh Millen's eyes on that one.
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Speaker 1: The secondary is beat up. The safety position is a
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Speaker 1: concern at least week one. The good news for Seattle
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Speaker 1: is get through this thing and you've got a whole
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Speaker 1: bunch of time off before you go to Arizona, and
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Speaker 1: that's a lot softer landing next week when you go
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Speaker 1: down to Glendale.
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Speaker 3: It's true.
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Speaker 1: But I am a little bit concerned about the lack
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Speaker 1: of depth at a couple positions, running back and in
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Speaker 1: the secondary. I'm a little bit concerned because Eamon Worry
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Speaker 1: is still out. He's not going to play tonight. He's
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Speaker 1: listed as limited, but there's no chance he's playing.
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Speaker 5: No.
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Speaker 1: He hasn't had a full practice, so that's not going
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Speaker 1: to happen. And no Ty Okada. That was a concern.
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Speaker 1: Your front seven is going to have to be great.
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Speaker 1: But that was the one kind of thing I came
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Speaker 1: away with. And that's probably part of the problem. You
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Speaker 1: have a round table. All these things come in your mind.
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Speaker 1: But end of the day, I say all that. I'm
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Speaker 1: really not concerned about this game tonight. I don't know
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Speaker 1: about you, but I'm just really not concerned about this
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Speaker 1: game tonight.
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Speaker 2: I feel the opposite. I'm more concerned about this game
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Speaker 2: than the season as a whole. Because I do think
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Speaker 2: like Tyler Cotta being out, Eamon Worry not being back yet.
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Speaker 2: You know, the kind of revenge factor of New England.
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Speaker 2: They got better in the offseason. They added A.J.
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Speaker 6: Brown.
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Speaker 2: I think Drake May is going to kind of come
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Speaker 2: out to prove that, you know, he wasn't just a
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Speaker 2: bad schedule merchant last year. They're going to have a
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Speaker 2: little bit more motivation to kind of get things going
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Speaker 2: than the Seahawks will for this game specifically. And I
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Speaker 2: do think a lot of things are lining up for
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Speaker 2: a possible upset tonight. Now, I still think the Seahawks
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Speaker 2: will win, but I'm less confident in this game as
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Speaker 2: a whole than a lot of other people are. But
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Speaker 2: I think as the season wears on and you start
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Speaker 2: to get guys back, whether it's Charbonnet, whether it is,
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Speaker 2: you know, your secondary pieces and stuff like that, the
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Speaker 2: boys will start to roll in. I think this kind
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Speaker 2: of is one of those things where they might start
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Speaker 2: off a little bit slower than we expect them to,
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Speaker 2: but by year's end, they're still going to be one
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Speaker 2: of the two to three best teams in football.
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Speaker 1: Well, 49451, that is Tacoma Dodge, Texas. I'm going to
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Speaker 1: get your thoughts on that. Also, talkbacks are welcome today
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Speaker 1: as well. Interesting conversation. Are you more concerned about tonight
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Speaker 1: or the season as a whole? The season as a
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Speaker 1: whole concern to me would only be this. Can you
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Speaker 1: win the division again? Because we did kind of a
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Speaker 1: roundtable prediction thing. I said 12-5 is what I'm expecting
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Speaker 1: from this team. And it's based on schedule. It's just
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Speaker 1: based on schedule. Schedule is really hard. Now, part of
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Speaker 1: it is those teams looking at Seattle and the schedule going, God,
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Speaker 1: our schedule is really hard. We've got Seattle, we've got
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Speaker 1: the Rams. But it's a hard schedule. And The balance
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Speaker 1: of power in the NFL switches and changes really quick,
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Speaker 1: but it's a tough schedule. It's not a must-win tonight, obviously,
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Speaker 1: with 17 games. But a loss today, that does hurt you.
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Speaker 1: That would hurt you quite a bit. And just looking ahead, Anders,
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Speaker 1: and this is why. Because you're going to lose a
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Speaker 1: couple along the way, right? You're going to have your
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Speaker 1: bumps in the road. You're not going 17-0. They're going
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Speaker 1: to win next week in Arizona for fun. I think
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Speaker 1: at Washington, so back-to-back road games. Washington, sorry, not concerned.
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Speaker 1: I love you, Dan Quinn, but not concerned. Chargers at home,
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Speaker 1: tough game. San Francisco at home, tough game. At Denver,
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Speaker 1: really tough game. Kansas City at home, tough game. Chicago
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Speaker 1: at home. That gets you to the end of October.
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Speaker 1: That's a stretch, man. That's a stretch. You still have
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Speaker 1: to go to Philadelphia.
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Speaker 6: Philadelphia.
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Speaker 1: Obviously, the two games against the Rams, which the first
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Speaker 1: one doesn't come up until Christmas. It is a really
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Speaker 1: daunting schedule. You can't kick games like this at home.
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Speaker 1: I guess a team that flew across the country. And frankly,
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Speaker 1: you're better than. Yeah, you're better than.
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Speaker 2: You're a better team.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And I'm not as concerned with the division because I
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Speaker 2: do see that as a possibility that the Seahawks might
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Speaker 2: not win the division this year.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: But I don't think they're as dependent on having home
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Speaker 2: games in the playoffs as they have been in years past. Obviously,
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Speaker 2: it's an advantage, but I still think there's a possibility
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Speaker 2: that you get in as a wild card as a
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Speaker 2: 12-5 team with the Rams maybe winning 13 or 14
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Speaker 2: games and you could still do damage. And like I said,
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Speaker 2: if you're playing the best football at the end of
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Speaker 2: the year, which I think this team will be, then
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Speaker 2: I think that will be the only thing that matters.
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Speaker 1: I agree. Until they prove otherwise, though, they've never been
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Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl without having a little advantage.
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Speaker 2: No, that's a good point.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's... prove otherwise. I think they will at
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Speaker 1: some point. Maybe, hopefully, but they've never been able to
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Speaker 1: prove that along the way. Alright, we'll take a break.
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Speaker 1: We'll come back. Cosell joins us next. We'll hear from him.
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Speaker 1: We'll get his thoughts on the game and the season.
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Speaker 1: Sam Donald specifically and much more. We're at Jimmy's on first.
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Speaker 1: Opening day of the NFL season. You know what we
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Speaker 1: just did? We avoided the other thing across the street.
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Speaker 2: Thank God. And we have 20 more minutes of not
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Speaker 2: talking about it.
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Speaker 1: Because we've got our guy Greg Cosell coming up. That's next.
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Speaker 5: All right, we're back.
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Speaker 1: Jimmy's on first. They're getting after it today here. Seahawks fans,
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, never, ever, ever disappoint Seahawks fans.
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Speaker 1: The 12s are here already. It's five hours until kickoff.
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Speaker 1: We're getting after it.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Vitamin R on the– it's all here, man. Let's go.
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Speaker 1: I love it. This is a good time. Jimmy's on first.
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Speaker 1: There is a little bit of room here. You can
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Speaker 1: probably come sneak in. Baseball game is going to start
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Speaker 1: here in a little while. But across the street, the
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Speaker 1: main event, Lumen Field, 520 kickoff, Patriots-Seahawks rematch of the
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl coming up here in just a little while.
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Speaker 1: 20th regular season meeting with Seattle leading 11-8, and Seattle
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Speaker 1: has won the last four regular season games in this series. And,
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Speaker 1: of course, they won the last one that really mattered.
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Speaker 1: That was last year. on February 8th.
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Speaker 4: All right.
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Speaker 1: Greg Cosell joins us every week. He's going to be
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Speaker 1: back on with us, by the way, on Friday, Anders.
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Speaker 1: And what will we be able to do on Friday
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Speaker 1: after the game is over on Friday? What can he
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Speaker 1: do Friday?
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Speaker 2: Only tell us what the tape says. And it's interesting
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Speaker 2: because Greg normally is kind of like a preview guy.
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Speaker 2: Here's what you're going to be getting on Sunday. But
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Speaker 2: we'll get kind of a post-game Greg Cosell on Friday,
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Speaker 2: which is great.
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Speaker 1: Which we will enjoy. But we caught up with Greg
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Speaker 1: Cosell and got a little preview to the season, including
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Speaker 1: tonight's game. Talking about Sam Darnold and so much more.
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Speaker 7: Doing great. I can't believe it's here. You know, it's funny.
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Speaker 7: I pretty much watch tape of some sort almost every
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Speaker 7: day this summer. I probably watched about 120 college players,
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Speaker 7: of which I'm sure 95% of them will be in
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Speaker 7: the draft. And then, of course, some of them might
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Speaker 7: be back in college, you know, the way the new
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Speaker 7: ruling is, you know, that's the way it is. Now
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Speaker 7: you can, you know, I guess you can be 35
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Speaker 7: and go back to college. But anyway.
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Speaker 1: Play for Lane Kiffin.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, the last month or so, I've just been, you know, grinding,
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Speaker 7: rewatching a whole bunch of NFL stuff to get back
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Speaker 7: in the groove. And, you know, just especially teams that
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Speaker 7: have the same coaching staff, you know, because that's when
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Speaker 7: it's a new coaching staff, you never know what kind
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Speaker 7: of changes will be made. And unless it comes from
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Speaker 7: the same kind of school, like, you know, for instance,
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Speaker 7: with the Seahawks, with Brian Fleury, you know, it's essentially
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Speaker 7: the same school of offensive philosophy that, you know, Kubiak
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Speaker 7: came from, which is the Kyle Shanahan school.
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Speaker 1: Well, we're going to get to that. We'll get to
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Speaker 1: that in a minute. You mentioned the college guys. Let
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Speaker 1: me just start with kind of a refresher for us
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Speaker 1: here in Seattle because it's been a while. When we
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Speaker 1: last spoke, you were telling us that we talked about
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Speaker 1: Jadarian Price and who the Seahawks drafted in the first round,
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Speaker 1: the second Notre Dame draft pick of a running back
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Speaker 1: in the first round behind Love obviously going to Arizona.
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Speaker 1: We didn't see Jadarian Price. He didn't play in the preseason.
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Speaker 1: He was banged up a little bit, but he's healthy
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Speaker 1: as far as we know, and he will be the
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Speaker 1: starter and the lead running back for Seattle when they
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Speaker 1: take the field on Wednesday against the New England Patriots. Greg,
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Speaker 1: what do you recall? What can you tell Seahawks fans
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Speaker 1: about what you saw on tape during his tenure at
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame at Jadarian Price?
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Speaker 7: Well, he had 113 rushes last year at Notre Dame, Ian,
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Speaker 7: and I watched them all when I did them prior
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Speaker 7: to the draft. And obviously, so people understand, I don't
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Speaker 7: know who's going to draft players when I watch them. So,
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Speaker 7: you know, they obviously drafted him. I thought what immediately
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Speaker 7: stood out with Price was his decisiveness as a downhill runner.
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Speaker 7: I thought he had sudden short area burst. I thought
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Speaker 7: he had explosiveness. I wouldn't call him loose-hipped, and I'd
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Speaker 7: say he's a little stiff, but he did have quick feet.
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Speaker 7: He could make sharp, controlled cuts at the first level
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Speaker 7: of the defense. I didn't necessarily see him as a
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Speaker 7: true home run threat, but I don't think that's a
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Speaker 7: critical trait for a running back in the NFL. But
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Speaker 7: I think there were times that he did run away
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Speaker 7: from second and third level defenders, even though he's not
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Speaker 7: Jameer Gibbs or that kind of bag. But I think
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Speaker 7: he certainly has enough juice. I really liked the way
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Speaker 7: he ran. I thought he was competitive. I thought he
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Speaker 7: was physical. I thought he was tough. I guess I
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Speaker 7: saw him as a guy, and here was my final
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Speaker 7: line in my transition. I said, my sense is Price
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Speaker 7: will be seen as a higher-level volume complement as opposed
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Speaker 7: to a foundation back that is the starting point of
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Speaker 7: an offense, but it is certainly possible that he could
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Speaker 7: be seen as a feature back depending on a team's
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Speaker 7: offensive philosophy. So obviously the Seahawks see him as a
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Speaker 7: feature back.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt, and Charbonnet is going to miss a
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Speaker 1: few games, and it looks like Helani is going to
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Speaker 1: be the number two guy for now. Let me— Let's
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Speaker 1: get to the offense itself because you mentioned Brian Fleury.
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Speaker 1: We go from Kubiak here in Seattle, who then now
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Speaker 1: is the head coach of the Raiders, and they bring
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Speaker 1: in Brian Fleury, first-time play caller, former assistant coach with
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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan in San Francisco. While we don't know really
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Speaker 1: what Fleury is about as a play caller overall, you
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Speaker 1: can fill us in a little bit on the philosophy
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Speaker 1: and maybe what to expect from this offense. Is it
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Speaker 1: much the same as we've seen?
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Speaker 7: Well, let's put it this way. I think what you'll
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Speaker 7: see conceptually and from a methodology standpoint, I think you'll
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Speaker 7: see the same thing. The thing that I always think
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Speaker 7: about when you have a new coordinator is not necessarily
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Speaker 7: how it's taught, because it'll be taught in a very
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Speaker 7: similar fashion as to what Kubiak did. The question always
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Speaker 7: then comes, and there's no way to know this until
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Speaker 7: you play the games. And it's even hard then because,
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Speaker 7: you know, you and I are not sitting in the
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Speaker 7: meetings during the week. But then it comes down more
16:34
Speaker 7: to the specific calls in a game, you know, how
16:39
Speaker 7: you go about putting together the game plan. The concepts
16:43
Speaker 7: will be very similar. The whole structure will be very similar.
16:47
Speaker 7: But what, you know, what's the game plan going to
16:49
Speaker 7: be against specific opponents? And what are the calls going
16:52
Speaker 7: to be, you know, in a given game versus a
16:55
Speaker 7: specific opponent? And those are the things you don't know
16:57
Speaker 7: for sure. And and it's very hard to know the
17:00
Speaker 7: answer to that. And sometimes, you know, obviously, if all
17:04
Speaker 7: of a sudden week one and obviously it's a big matchup,
17:06
Speaker 7: it's a Super Bowl rematch. You know, let's say it
17:09
Speaker 7: doesn't work out great. I'm sure a lot of people
17:11
Speaker 7: are immediately going to rip Brian Flurry. And that, you know,
17:13
Speaker 7: that's just coaches know that that's the nature of the business. But,
17:17
Speaker 7: you know, and that's why watching the tape for me
17:20
Speaker 7: is so important, because sometimes plays don't work. Not because
17:23
Speaker 7: it's a bad call, but because maybe the right guard
17:26
Speaker 7: just missed a block and they had a big play
17:28
Speaker 7: that was there, but the right guard missed a block.
17:32
Speaker 7: You never know the reasons until you really see the
17:34
Speaker 7: tape in detail. But to me, it comes down to
17:37
Speaker 7: the specific way he goes about game planning specific opponents
17:41
Speaker 7: and then the calls within a given game.
17:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hugh, your friend Hugh Miller and I were talking
17:46
Speaker 1: about this a couple weeks ago, and one of the
17:48
Speaker 1: things he's looking for is tempo and things like that
17:50
Speaker 1: and all those things. And until you get into a
17:53
Speaker 1: real game, you don't know. We spent the offseason hearing
17:56
Speaker 1: a lot up here in Seattle, not about the Seahawks title,
17:59
Speaker 1: but about what the Rams are doing. I don't want
18:00
Speaker 1: to get to that now, but what I want to
18:01
Speaker 1: do is I'll let maybe you can kind of wax
18:04
Speaker 1: poetically and in your own way about what you see
18:07
Speaker 1: in the film about a couple guys that we're expecting
18:10
Speaker 1: big things from again this season. And I'll just talk.
18:12
Speaker 1: We just saw hard knocks. It just finished up. I
18:14
Speaker 1: don't know if you watched it, but all the Seahawks
18:16
Speaker 1: fans did. One of the overriding themes was Jackson Smith
18:19
Speaker 1: and Jigba. the route runner that he is. They did
18:22
Speaker 1: a graphic once. It looked like he was like 18
18:23
Speaker 1: Jackson Smith and Jigba's running around. But who and what
18:26
Speaker 1: Jackson Smith and Jigba was and the chemistry he had
18:29
Speaker 1: with Sam Darnold last season. And that's something that Brian
18:31
Speaker 1: Fleury inherits. You watched all the Sam Darnold tape. You've
18:34
Speaker 1: watched all the JSN tape. What is it about those
18:37
Speaker 1: two guys that was just so magical last year and
18:40
Speaker 1: maybe separates them from some other combinations? Well, you know,
18:44
Speaker 1: it's funny.
18:44
Speaker 7: I mean, Look, we know Smith and Jig was a
18:46
Speaker 7: great player. I don't think I'm going to add to that.
18:49
Speaker 7: I mean, obviously, he's got unbelievable route quickness and separation
18:53
Speaker 7: quickness and a little more vertical juice than people probably
18:56
Speaker 7: thought when he came out of Ohio State. But, you know,
19:00
Speaker 7: I watched a ton of Sam Darnold over the last
19:03
Speaker 7: couple of weeks, probably 250 dropbacks from a year ago.
19:06
Speaker 7: And to me, the Seahawks pass game was an outstanding
19:09
Speaker 7: mix of scheme and talent. Darnold's a really high level thrower.
19:14
Speaker 7: And I thought the route concepts and combinations really did
19:16
Speaker 7: an excellent job of presenting clean, defined reads and throws,
19:21
Speaker 7: even when Darnold needed to work through progressions. And I
19:23
Speaker 7: thought he did a really good job with that. But obviously,
19:26
Speaker 7: you know, we talked about this during the season that
19:29
Speaker 7: two years ago, Smith and Jigba played predominantly in the slot.
19:32
Speaker 7: Last year, he played close to 80 percent as an
19:36
Speaker 7: outside receiver. So he really can do anything that you
19:39
Speaker 7: ask him to do. So there's no issue with Smith
19:42
Speaker 7: and Jigba. I just think that, and again, this gets
19:45
Speaker 7: back to you know, Brian Fleury to some extent, but
19:48
Speaker 7: I just thought, you know, what they did in the
19:50
Speaker 7: games with their concepts was so, so good. Now the
19:53
Speaker 7: concepts won't change because, you know, as I said, it's
19:57
Speaker 7: the same sort of school and philosophy of offense from
20:01
Speaker 7: Kubiak to Fleury. But I thought the Seahawks pass game
20:04
Speaker 7: was really well-schemed, well-designed, Darnold is a fun watch. Now, again,
20:11
Speaker 7: I have a certain view of the quarterback position that
20:14
Speaker 7: comes from a lot of years of experience and a
20:16
Speaker 7: lot of being taught by people smarter than I. But
20:21
Speaker 7: to me, that's what a quarterback looks like. I mean,
20:24
Speaker 7: he's big. He's 6'4. He's 225. He throws the ball
20:28
Speaker 7: really well. One thing that constantly stood out to me
20:31
Speaker 7: watching Darnold, I thought he did an excellent job marrying
20:35
Speaker 7: his eyes and his feet when he worked through progressions.
20:37
Speaker 7: You know, so many quarterbacks, when they work through progressions,
20:40
Speaker 7: they end up throwing a little off balance. They don't
20:43
Speaker 7: step to their throws. I thought he did a really,
20:46
Speaker 7: really good job with that.
20:47
Speaker 1: I love that. Greg Cosell joining us, weekly visit. Love
20:51
Speaker 1: having Greg on every week. Seahawk offense largely intact from
20:56
Speaker 1: a year ago. They'll have Rashid Shaheed, who's a lot
20:59
Speaker 1: more a part of the offense. He never really kind
21:01
Speaker 1: of got acclimated to that part of it. We believe
21:04
Speaker 1: Torrey Horton will be okay at some point. We think
21:06
Speaker 1: he might even be ready for Wednesday. Who knows what's
21:09
Speaker 1: going to happen there. It's a familiar matchup. When did
21:13
Speaker 1: you think.
21:13
Speaker 7: You'd ever say that he'd be ready for Wednesday? Did
21:16
Speaker 7: you ever think you'd be saying that about an NFL game?
21:18
Speaker 1: Greg, I mentioned this last week, or maybe earlier this week.
21:23
Speaker 1: Of all my years covering this team, and lucky enough
21:27
Speaker 1: to go all across the country covering this team, I
21:30
Speaker 1: thought I'd seen it all when I covered a game
21:33
Speaker 1: on tuesday night football in la and so far and
21:38
Speaker 1: i think it was 2021 tuesday night football right i
21:41
Speaker 1: thought that was on now we have wednesday night football
21:43
Speaker 1: so no i never thought we'd have that i never
21:45
Speaker 1: thought we'd have that.
21:47
Speaker 7: And i can i mention one player on the seahawks
21:49
Speaker 7: offense that i think is such a blue player let.
21:53
Speaker 1: Me ask you let me let me guess is it
21:56
Speaker 1: aj barner yes it is.
22:00
Speaker 7: I really, the more I watch their offense, like I said,
22:04
Speaker 7: the great thing about the offseason is I can sit
22:05
Speaker 7: and watch, you know, 250 dropbacks by Darnold over the
22:09
Speaker 7: course of a couple of days. I can't do that
22:11
Speaker 7: during this season when I have to get through as
22:12
Speaker 7: many games as possible. And A.J. Bonner, to me, is
22:17
Speaker 7: one of those glue guys. Like, you know, he's not
22:19
Speaker 7: going to catch 80 balls. He's, you know, probably not
22:23
Speaker 7: a lot of people around the league know who he is.
22:25
Speaker 7: They might know him because the Seahawks won the Super Bowl.
22:27
Speaker 7: So they, you know, they've seen him on TV. But,
22:29
Speaker 7: you know, I just think he's a really, really important piece.
22:34
Speaker 7: He lined up as an attached tight end on about 80%
22:38
Speaker 7: of his snaps. He's really important in the run game.
22:41
Speaker 7: He's kind of an interesting player in the pass game.
22:45
Speaker 7: Like I said, he's not going to get 100 targets,
22:47
Speaker 7: but it's not as if he's a non-factor in the
22:50
Speaker 7: pass game.
22:52
Speaker 1: How about that? We must have been doing this for
22:54
Speaker 1: a long time if I was able to guess that
22:56
Speaker 1: out of 11 guys, huh? Are you impressed?
22:58
Speaker 3: Yeah.
22:59
Speaker 7: I just think he's a really, really solid, you know, look,
23:02
Speaker 7: every team, it's kind of a shame what happened to
23:05
Speaker 7: Jake Bobo, because I remember seeing when Bobo and hard
23:09
Speaker 7: knocks when Mike, I think it was Mike, was it
23:11
Speaker 7: Mike McDonald or was it someone else?
23:13
Speaker 1: It might've been his own receiver coach.
23:16
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.
23:16
Speaker 7: It was the receivers coach. You're right. And, you know,
23:19
Speaker 7: and then he was talking to him just about that,
23:22
Speaker 7: that you're a glue guy and you're so important to
23:24
Speaker 7: the team. And then unfortunately tears up his knee and
23:26
Speaker 7: he's done for the season. But every team needs guys
23:29
Speaker 7: like that. We all talk about the Darnolds, the Smith
23:32
Speaker 7: and Jigbiz, the stars on defense, and they've got a
23:35
Speaker 7: lot of them. But every team needs those kinds of players.
23:39
Speaker 7: They're really important players, and everybody in the locker room,
23:42
Speaker 7: the coaching staff in the building knows who those players are.
23:46
Speaker 1: That's why they paid him, and he was going to
23:48
Speaker 1: be on this team. He's one of our favorites in
23:51
Speaker 1: the media. He's one of the best guys to talk to,
23:52
Speaker 1: and it's a sad thing for him. Just real quick
23:55
Speaker 1: on New England. For folks just tuning in, normally on
24:00
Speaker 1: a Friday, we would be previewing a game on a
24:02
Speaker 1: Sunday and going through the opponent and really kind of
24:05
Speaker 1: doing that. We're not doing that today. It's more of
24:06
Speaker 1: a kind of a preview of the Hawks. But same
24:09
Speaker 1: matchup as the Super Bowl. Are we going to see,
24:11
Speaker 1: do you think, a similar team that we saw on
24:13
Speaker 1: defense from the Patriots in the Super Bowl?
24:17
Speaker 7: Knowing Mike Rabel, and I have been around him at
24:19
Speaker 7: Titans training camp when he coached there, you know that
24:22
Speaker 7: he seethed all offseason because the thing that probably, going
24:26
Speaker 7: beyond the X's and O's, what stood out to me,
24:29
Speaker 7: particularly watching the tape, I mean, I was in the stadium, obviously,
24:32
Speaker 7: but then coming back and watching the tape, what stood
24:34
Speaker 7: out to me is that the Patriots on both sides
24:37
Speaker 7: of the ball were physically beaten. I mean, the Seahawks
24:40
Speaker 7: beat them up physically. And I'm not sure people expected that.
24:45
Speaker 7: You know, it's one thing to, you know, Smith and
24:46
Speaker 7: Jibman making plays, and obviously he didn't make a ton
24:49
Speaker 7: of plays in that game, but the game didn't require it.
24:52
Speaker 7: You know, it's one thing if those kinds of things
24:54
Speaker 7: happen where great athletes make great plays, but they were
24:57
Speaker 7: physically handled on both sides of the ball. And that's
25:01
Speaker 7: normally not what happens to a Mike Grable team. So
25:03
Speaker 7: you know that that's something that I guarantee from the
25:07
Speaker 7: day the schedule came out that has been talked about
25:10
Speaker 7: in that Patriots building and and again. My guess is
25:14
Speaker 7: the game won't play out exactly that way. I'm not
25:16
Speaker 7: a predictor of games, as you know, Ian. I'm not
25:18
Speaker 7: going to sit here and say, well, who's going to
25:20
Speaker 7: win and all that. I don't do that because there's
25:22
Speaker 7: so many variables. But I guess I'd probably be surprised
25:26
Speaker 7: if it was a physical mauling the way the Super
25:29
Speaker 7: Bowl was.
25:30
Speaker 1: I would agree. This is Greg Cosell joining us. Other
25:33
Speaker 1: side of the football, by and large, Seattle pretty intact
25:37
Speaker 1: from last season on the defense. They lose Reek Wolin. Uh,
25:40
Speaker 1: there's maybe they're a little thin at that cornerback position.
25:43
Speaker 1: They got Julian Neal, a rookie and, and, uh, Avery Smith,
25:46
Speaker 1: the kid they picked up from, from the chargers, but, uh,
25:49
Speaker 1: they lose Kobe Bryant, but they honestly probably you, I
25:53
Speaker 1: know you like Ty Okada and Julian Love back there.
25:55
Speaker 1: We think Nick him in work.
25:56
Speaker 7: It would happen to Bud Clark though, because I like
25:59
Speaker 7: his tape a lot. And I'm sure he would have
26:01
Speaker 7: gotten snaps.
26:02
Speaker 1: That defense. They do add Dante Fowler on the, on
26:05
Speaker 1: the front.
26:06
Speaker 3: Uh, yep.
26:07
Speaker 1: So I'm not sure what juice he has left in
26:09
Speaker 1: the tank, but we'll see. But what is it about
26:11
Speaker 1: the Mike McDonald defense? You watched 32 defenses around the
26:14
Speaker 1: league and you're watching tape on all 32. What separates
26:18
Speaker 1: the Mike McDonald defense from the other 31?
26:22
Speaker 7: You know, it's a fascinating point because they're a defense
26:25
Speaker 7: that's not necessarily like a heavy blitz defense. You know,
26:28
Speaker 7: that that's, that's not the way they play. And I
26:32
Speaker 7: did look at them this off season as well, because
26:35
Speaker 7: I was just really curious. I, here's what stood out
26:38
Speaker 7: to me. I thought on third down, and I think
26:41
Speaker 7: they were the number one third down defense in the league.
26:43
Speaker 7: Is that correct? I thought on third down, and that's
26:49
Speaker 7: such a critical down in this league, as you know.
26:51
Speaker 7: I mean, they had a lot of things that stood
26:55
Speaker 7: out as I kept watching play after play. So there's
26:58
Speaker 7: certain tactics. They lined up what we call loaded fronts
27:01
Speaker 7: pretty much consistently on third down, meaning they had three
27:04
Speaker 7: defensive linemen to one side of the offensive center. And
27:07
Speaker 7: then they stunt. They were a high percentage stunt defense
27:11
Speaker 7: with their defensive line. And what they did is they
27:15
Speaker 7: changed their coverage look from pre-snap to post-snap. They were really,
27:19
Speaker 7: really good at dropping D linemen out into underneath coverage,
27:24
Speaker 7: which was foundational to many of their coverage to their
27:27
Speaker 7: pressure concepts. And that can cause problems. for quarterbacks. And
27:31
Speaker 7: don't forget, in a game of milliseconds, that's a big deal.
27:34
Speaker 1: Because if the.
27:35
Speaker 7: Quarterback just for a second feels like he's uncertain, that's
27:38
Speaker 7: a big deal. They were very multiple on third and
27:42
Speaker 7: long with their pass rush tactics and their changing coverage
27:45
Speaker 7: looks on the second level and on the back end.
27:48
Speaker 7: And then, of course, when Witherspoon came back from injury,
27:52
Speaker 7: I think it was week nine, they played dime on
27:54
Speaker 7: more than 25% of their snaps. And that became kind
27:57
Speaker 7: of foundational to the way they played it was the
28:00
Speaker 7: third highest percentage in the league. But I got to
28:03
Speaker 7: tell you another player, we talked about AJ Bonner. There's
28:06
Speaker 7: a player on defense. And I actually had this conversation
28:08
Speaker 7: with a very good friend of mine, who's a scout
28:11
Speaker 7: on a team in the league. And he was tasked
28:13
Speaker 7: this off season with evaluating every starting corner in the league.
28:17
Speaker 7: You know, that's what teams do. They ask their scouts
28:19
Speaker 7: to do those kinds of things in the off season. And,
28:22
Speaker 7: He validated what I thought. And I didn't tell him
28:25
Speaker 7: what I thought. I asked him, hey, who are the
28:27
Speaker 7: guys in your study that were not the obvious guys
28:30
Speaker 7: that really stood out to you? And one of the
28:33
Speaker 7: first names he said was Josh Jobe. And you know,
28:36
Speaker 7: beginning two years ago, he and I started talking about
28:39
Speaker 7: Josh Jobe and how how good he was, and predominantly
28:41
Speaker 7: he was playing in the nickel then as an outside corner,
28:45
Speaker 7: and then he clearly beat out Wolin, which is why
28:47
Speaker 7: Wolin's not there anymore, probably among.
28:49
Speaker 1: Other reasons as well.
28:50
Speaker 7: But Josh Jobe is a really solid NFL corner, and
28:55
Speaker 7: I'm not sure a lot of people think about him
28:57
Speaker 7: that way, but he is an important player in the
29:00
Speaker 7: context of this defense because one of the things they
29:02
Speaker 7: do a lot of is they play a lot out
29:04
Speaker 7: of a two-shell, two-high-safety structure. And they take that boundary safety,
29:10
Speaker 7: because Job's the boundary corner, they take that boundary safety
29:14
Speaker 7: and they basically what we call poach him or bring
29:16
Speaker 7: him inside. So they let Job play what is essentially
29:20
Speaker 7: zero-man coverage with no safety help. And there's no way
29:25
Speaker 7: Mike McDonald would let him do that if he didn't
29:27
Speaker 7: think he could handle that responsibility.
29:29
Speaker 1: I wonder if that changes on Wednesday, because last night, check,
29:32
Speaker 1: the Patriots have a new wide receiver that we didn't
29:35
Speaker 1: see in the Super Bowl, who's pretty good, right? A.J.
29:38
Speaker 7: Brown, who's a boundary X, and that'll be interesting to
29:41
Speaker 7: see what happens in that game, because he'll be their
29:43
Speaker 7: boundary X.
29:46
Speaker 1: Will Campbell kind of had his issues against Seattle in
29:49
Speaker 1: that game, and the Seahawks, I mentioned Fowler, they re-signed
29:54
Speaker 1: Derek Hall. They made the decision, Hall over Moffay, kind
29:57
Speaker 1: of like Job over Wolin, probably. They also re-signed a
30:01
Speaker 1: guy by the name of Leonard Williams. You've heard of him,
30:03
Speaker 1: pretty good player. So that defensive front, you mentioned it,
30:08
Speaker 1: both sides of the line, that Super Bowl, the defensive
30:10
Speaker 1: front for Seattle. Riley Mills, ladies and gentlemen, made his
30:14
Speaker 1: appearance in the Super Bowl as well from Notre Dame.
30:18
Speaker 1: You know what?
30:19
Speaker 7: In studying a lot of these teams that play too
30:21
Speaker 7: high shell as a foundation, and Seattle's one of them.
30:24
Speaker 7: They're not in the Vic Fangio school, which most people
30:27
Speaker 7: talk about with the too high safety structures. but Seattle
30:30
Speaker 7: played predominantly out of a too high shell. The argument
30:35
Speaker 7: could be made that D-tackle has become one of the most,
30:40
Speaker 7: if not the most important position for these defenses. And
30:43
Speaker 7: I'll tell you why. Because now you're not, now a
30:46
Speaker 7: safety is not in the box. So you have one
30:48
Speaker 7: less gap player in the run game. So now the
30:52
Speaker 7: D-tackles are absolutely critical. I mean, look at a team
30:56
Speaker 7: like the Eagles, the money they just spent on Jordan
30:58
Speaker 7: Davis and Jalen Carter. Look at you mentioned Riley Mills,
31:01
Speaker 7: who's now the fourth guy. You know, they have a
31:04
Speaker 7: group of D tackles starting with Williams and Murphy who
31:07
Speaker 7: are phenomenal. Murphy was had a great year and Williams
31:11
Speaker 7: is Williams. And, you know, obviously, Jared Reed has been
31:14
Speaker 7: a really solid NFL player for a lot of years.
31:16
Speaker 7: And then Riley Mills, a player I really like coming
31:19
Speaker 7: out of Notre Dame and then unfortunately tore his ACL
31:21
Speaker 7: late in his last season. But they could have a
31:23
Speaker 7: four-man rotation at D-tackle. But it all starts there because
31:28
Speaker 7: now with one less player in the box, those D-tackles
31:31
Speaker 7: are so, so critical in stopping the run, which obviously
31:35
Speaker 7: Seattle does well.
31:37
Speaker 1: Well, Greg, it's a good start for us because every
31:41
Speaker 1: Friday we will be checking in with you. Next Friday
31:44
Speaker 1: the game will have been played. So what we'll do
31:46
Speaker 1: is we will recap what you saw a little bit
31:50
Speaker 1: and look ahead to– But we'll kind of recap. And
31:53
Speaker 1: I think what I'm actually looking forward to, Greg, next Friday,
31:57
Speaker 1: is when we do discuss what you saw on Wednesday,
32:01
Speaker 1: is kind of getting a feel, maybe, I'm assuming in
32:03
Speaker 1: a regular season game, you'll have a little better feel
32:05
Speaker 1: for the Brian Flurry offense after one game, too, right?
32:07
Speaker 7: But no question. You know, look, we all understand Ian,
32:12
Speaker 7: that preseason to coaches and players is so, so important. So,
32:16
Speaker 7: so important. And believe me, I've been to camps throughout
32:20
Speaker 7: my career, and the importance for these players is just astronomical.
32:24
Speaker 7: So I am not downplaying it at all. Just for me,
32:27
Speaker 7: as far as tactics and schematics and those kinds of things,
32:31
Speaker 7: it doesn't help me as much. But for the players
32:34
Speaker 7: and the coaches and their evaluation, I mean, it is
32:37
Speaker 7: absolutely critical, clearly. And it's these guys' lives. So I'm
32:41
Speaker 7: not downplaying it at all.
32:44
Speaker 1: When's the first matchup show?
32:46
Speaker 7: Well, I'm going to tell you I'm very excited about
32:49
Speaker 7: it because now that ESPN and the NFL Network have merged,
32:52
Speaker 7: I guess would be the right term, we're going to
32:55
Speaker 7: be on six times on a lot of weeks starting
32:58
Speaker 7: week one because we're going to have three airings on
33:00
Speaker 7: ESPN and three airings on the NFL Network. So I
33:04
Speaker 7: know people these days don't necessarily watch a lot of
33:06
Speaker 7: shows when they're on. But there's so many more opportunities now.
33:10
Speaker 7: Now you can obviously DVR it or whatever people do
33:14
Speaker 7: these days. But the fact that we're going to be
33:16
Speaker 7: on six times most weeks, I'm really pleased.
33:19
Speaker 1: Well, listen, if people want to see Greg Cosell's smiling
33:22
Speaker 1: pretty face with makeup and a tie on, then make
33:25
Speaker 1: sure you tune in and you'll get some good football
33:26
Speaker 1: knowledge mixed in as well, right?
33:28
Speaker 7: Well, I appreciate that, even though I do have a
33:30
Speaker 7: face for radio, Ian, but thank you.
33:34
Speaker 1: Don't we all, Greg. Don't we all. We'll come back
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Speaker 8: Astros down the road.
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Speaker 4: But for now, if you lose.
34:03
Speaker 8: One to the Rangers, that's probably the end of it.
34:06
Speaker 8: Just because you've got to make up ground. So it's
34:08
Speaker 8: pretty much, you know, go 5-0 against those teams.
34:12
Speaker 2: And what does that leave?
34:13
Speaker 8: 18? You know, go 11-2 against the three awful teams
34:17
Speaker 8: left on your schedule. One of which they just lost
34:19
Speaker 8: 3-4 to.
34:20
Speaker 9: Right.
34:22
Speaker 8: That's the math. But if you don't go 5-0 against
34:24
Speaker 8: the Astros and Rangers, I don't think you can actually
34:26
Speaker 8: catch either one.
34:28
Speaker 1: Joe Sheehan yesterday on our show. Anders, refresh my memory.
34:32
Speaker 1: How did that game go last night? Can they still
34:34
Speaker 1: sweep those five games?
34:35
Speaker 2: Not only did they not go five and oh, they
34:36
Speaker 2: lost their first one.
34:38
Speaker 1: Out of all of them. Is that not good? I
34:41
Speaker 1: can't tell.
34:42
Speaker 2: I don't think that's very good, but I could be wrong.
34:44
Speaker 1: Joe Sheehan yesterday with us. I asked him just point blank,
34:47
Speaker 1: are they still in it? And that was his answer.
34:49
Speaker 1: They got a sweep and they didn't. Best they can
34:51
Speaker 1: do now is win two or three from the Rangers.
34:54
Speaker 2: Then you only gain one game.
34:55
Speaker 1: Even if you do that, you gain one game.
34:57
Speaker 6: Yeah.
34:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the way they lost, the fashion in which
35:00
Speaker 1: they lost last night was awful on every level. Ruined
35:04
Speaker 1: an incredible moment with Laz Montes with the home run,
35:08
Speaker 1: the furthest one in the StatCast era at T-Mobile Park. Just,
35:13
Speaker 1: you watched it more than I did. I was involved
35:16
Speaker 1: in a little fantasy football world.
35:17
Speaker 4: Oh, really?
35:18
Speaker 1: But you watched a little bit, and I was just
35:20
Speaker 1: checking the text thread out. Yeah. What kind of issue
35:23
Speaker 1: is Bryce Miller?
35:24
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a big issue, but they don't have
35:26
Speaker 2: anyone else that can pitch in the rotation right now
35:28
Speaker 2: because of Emerson Hancock going to the IL. So, I mean,
35:32
Speaker 2: you could tell that they were in a tough spot
35:35
Speaker 2: with him a month ago when he was in the rotation.
35:38
Speaker 2: And then they finally call up Kate Anderson and they
35:41
Speaker 2: try and... figure some gymnastics there to move him to
35:44
Speaker 2: the bullpen and then right after that happens Emerson Hancock
35:47
Speaker 2: gets hurt so he has to go right back in
35:49
Speaker 2: the rotation and you're seeing why he shouldn't be in
35:51
Speaker 2: the rotation right now he just he looks like he's
35:53
Speaker 2: out of gas he can't pitch for more than two
35:57
Speaker 2: Innings at a time, maybe three at most. But it's
36:00
Speaker 2: just not good with him right now. And we always forget,
36:04
Speaker 2: he actually started the year on the IL. And then
36:06
Speaker 2: when he came off the IL, he was actually the
36:09
Speaker 2: best pitcher for the Mariners, but only for about a
36:12
Speaker 2: month or so. And then he just fell off a cliff.
36:14
Speaker 2: So I don't know what's going on with him. I
36:16
Speaker 2: just don't think he's a starter moving forward, to be honest.
36:18
Speaker 1: I know Logan had a couple blips on the radar screen.
36:20
Speaker 1: One was early, and one was a few weeks ago.
36:22
Speaker 1: But Logan Gilbert, I think he could make.
36:27
Speaker 1: Logan Gilbert's been the only guy that's been consistent all year.
36:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if that, though, it's still not to
36:32
Speaker 2: the same Logan level that we expect. And this is
36:36
Speaker 2: where I did a little bit on the postcast last night. Yes,
36:39
Speaker 2: you can look at the offense and you can look
36:41
Speaker 2: at the lineup. In the last 30 days, the Mariners
36:44
Speaker 2: had the lowest 30th place in ERA in the last
36:47
Speaker 2: 30 days. Last place.
36:49
Speaker 1: And I'm not, listen, the Dan Wilson stuff, everyone's had
36:52
Speaker 1: their say, and we all kind of are on the
36:54
Speaker 1: same page with that. Here's what I don't understand. In
36:57
Speaker 1: a world in which you have no hesitation, this team,
37:01
Speaker 1: to go out and throw Pareda or Robles on the
37:06
Speaker 1: mound in games that are not as bad as last night,
37:08
Speaker 1: but games that are bad, that are worse than last night,
37:10
Speaker 1: I should say. Why does Rucker not pitch one more inning?
37:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
37:15
Speaker 2: You could say that for Criswell, Rucker, even Vargas could
37:18
Speaker 2: have gone another inning.
37:19
Speaker 1: Seven guys pitched last night, right? Yep. And then you
37:23
Speaker 1: have a short turnaround.
37:25
Speaker 10: Yeah.
37:25
Speaker 1: When people criticize Dan Wilson, there's a lot of different
37:28
Speaker 1: reasons you criticize him. Top of the list would be
37:30
Speaker 1: stuff like that.
37:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's stupid.
37:32
Speaker 1: The game's over. Like Rucker or Chris, you've got to
37:36
Speaker 1: wear it, man. Wear it for a couple innings. That's
37:38
Speaker 1: your job. That's why you're in the big leagues. That's
37:39
Speaker 1: why you're making a big league salary. Instead, Wilson, one inning,
37:42
Speaker 1: one inning, one inning, one inning. You just can't do that,
37:44
Speaker 1: especially with Kate Anderson pitching today because we all know
37:49
Speaker 1: he's not going to go more than 80 pitches. That's true.
37:52
Speaker 1: Or if he does, it'll probably end up in a catastrophe.
37:55
Speaker 3: Yeah.
37:56
Speaker 1: Right?
37:56
Speaker 6: Yeah.
37:57
Speaker 1: So where's Taylor? Where's Taylor Twelman? What are we doing?
38:01
Speaker 1: My God. What are we? I mean, seriously. That's where
38:06
Speaker 1: the Wilson criticism is really valid. What are we doing?
38:09
Speaker 1: Nobody knows. What are we doing? Taylor, nobody knows. Nobody,
38:13
Speaker 1: nobody knows. Nobody knows. I do know this. Greg Bell
38:17
Speaker 1: was over talking to the Coastal family. First news conference.
38:20
Speaker 1: He sat back down with his heart. Jimmy's on first.
38:22
Speaker 1: We'll get to him, talk a little college football, and
38:23
Speaker 1: then Corbin Smith at 2 o'clock, 93.3 KJR FM.
38:29
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38:34
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38:39
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38:41
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38:41
Speaker 1: I'm going to get it one of these days. Well,
38:43
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38:44
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38:47
Speaker 1: get right to it. Seahawks, Patriots tonight, 520. Rematch at
38:50
Speaker 1: Super Bowl back on February 8th. We all know how
38:52
Speaker 1: that turned out. Really well for the home team here.
38:54
Speaker 2: It's getting popping down there, Jimmy's.
38:56
Speaker 1: It's getting going, buddy. It's getting going. 520 tonight, more
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39:02
Speaker 1: Greg Bell is here. We're going to talk to him
39:03
Speaker 1: about that in a second. He was at that press conference.
39:05
Speaker 1: We'll talk to the Coastal family as well. So we'll
39:07
Speaker 1: get to that in a heartbeat. Mariners getting ready to
39:08
Speaker 1: get things going here in a couple minutes. It's a
39:12
Speaker 1: big crowd. You know why? There's apparently giving away, like,
39:15
Speaker 1: the smushy bobbleheads.
39:16
Speaker 3: Is that what it is, Greg?
39:16
Speaker 2: Oh, the Funko Pops, yes.
39:17
Speaker 3: Funko Pops.
39:18
Speaker 1: Dumbest thing in the world.
39:19
Speaker 4: 10.30 in the morning, a line down Royal Brom to
39:22
Speaker 4: get in for them.
39:22
Speaker 1: What is wrong with people? All right. That's going on today.
39:25
Speaker 1: As you heard Joe Sheehan tell us a minute ago,
39:26
Speaker 1: they had to sweep these teams. They didn't do that.
39:29
Speaker 1: We'll see if they can take two or three and
39:32
Speaker 1: keep the glimmer of hope, the pilot light alive. It
39:34
Speaker 1: doesn't feel that way. Rams are officially in the air
39:36
Speaker 1: on their way to Australia. And they're going to land,
39:40
Speaker 1: and they're going to play a football game.
39:42
Speaker 3: I think they're going straight from the airport in Melbourne
39:43
Speaker 3: to the stadium.
39:44
Speaker 1: It's a 5-20 kickoff here, 10 a.m.
39:45
Speaker 6: Tomorrow.
39:48
Speaker 1: Or 10 a.m. Friday, actually, in Australia is when that
39:50
Speaker 1: game kicks off. 49ers and the Rams. 49ers are now
39:54
Speaker 1: missing three starters, two on the defensive line for the
39:57
Speaker 1: season after another injury yesterday. Can't even blame that on
39:59
Speaker 1: the substation as that continues. All right, let's get to it.
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40:18
Speaker 1: Jimmy's on first is where we are today. Ian Furness
40:21
Speaker 1: with you. We're hanging out and getting ready for a
40:23
Speaker 1: big day of sports. Mariners, if that's big. Yeah, probably not.
40:29
Speaker 1: Big day of sports coming up at 520 today with
40:31
Speaker 1: the Seahawks and the Patriots on national TV as they
40:35
Speaker 1: kick off the NFL season on a Wednesday night. We're
40:37
Speaker 1: at Jimmy's on first, and it is getting loud. It
40:40
Speaker 1: is getting packed. It's kind of been that way all
40:41
Speaker 1: day with the baseball game going on as well. So
40:44
Speaker 1: come on down, check things out. Soto's fun. Tons of
40:46
Speaker 1: people all ready for a game that is.
40:49
Speaker 1: Four hours and 17 minutes away from kickoff. And as
40:52
Speaker 1: Greg mentioned, there were people here early in the morning
40:55
Speaker 1: as well. So a lot going on. Don't forget Fact
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41:06
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Speaker 3: Yours or Anders today?
41:12
Speaker 1: It's me today, Anders tomorrow.
41:14
Speaker 3: College or pro?
41:14
Speaker 1: Pro. Not sure yet.
41:16
Speaker 2: He's scouring the game.
41:18
Speaker 1: There's a tug-of-war between two games right now for me.
41:21
Speaker 1: I'll have it figured out soon.
41:23
Speaker 2: Greg, I took Detroit minus 6.5 at home versus New
41:26
Speaker 2: Orleans yesterday.
41:27
Speaker 4: Yeah, they might win that by two touchdowns.
41:29
Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking too.
41:30
Speaker 1: Good pick. All right, Greg Bell is here, News Tribune,
41:32
Speaker 1: 10 to 12 here on KJR as well. I admittedly
41:35
Speaker 1: did not hear the news conference. I was wrapped up
41:38
Speaker 1: with some show things that I had to do. But
41:41
Speaker 1: you were over there for the Coastal Introduction. Paint the picture,
41:43
Speaker 1: walk us through it.
41:45
Speaker 6: Well, it was in a sweet luxury seating lounge on
41:48
Speaker 6: the fifth level, just below the press box of Blumenfield,
41:51
Speaker 6: overlooking the field with the blue end zones and the
41:53
Speaker 6: sun shining on the field. And although it's not grass anymore, Anders,
41:57
Speaker 6: from the World Cup, it still looked like a beautiful setting.
42:01
Speaker 4: And they noted that. They noted what a beautiful.
42:03
Speaker 6: Venue it was, an iconic venue. They reiterated how fortunate
42:07
Speaker 6: they are. to be buying a Super Bowl champion. This
42:11
Speaker 6: was largely unprecedented for a Super Bowl champion to become
42:14
Speaker 6: available for sale months after they won it all. Usually
42:17
Speaker 6: you're buying a troubled franchise, a franchise dumped for profit.
42:21
Speaker 4: Not in this case.
42:22
Speaker 1: So this is.
42:23
Speaker 4: Unique in that regard, and a nod to that.
42:25
Speaker 6: The biggest takeaway, guys, from it, and listeners to know,
42:30
Speaker 6: they're not coming in, and as Neil Kozler, the son, said,
42:33
Speaker 6: we're not coming in here shaking our fists. they're going
42:37
Speaker 6: to defer and they're going to be stewards of the franchise.
42:39
Speaker 6: They're trying to make that clear that the football ops
42:42
Speaker 6: are in his best place. It could possibly be a
42:45
Speaker 6: Superbowl champion with a 17 year GM and an up
42:48
Speaker 6: and coming young head coach still in his thirties is
42:50
Speaker 6: regarded as one of the best at what he does
42:52
Speaker 6: in the world.
42:53
Speaker 4: And they're not going to touch that.
42:55
Speaker 6: So that should be good news to all of us
42:57
Speaker 6: that are watching the football side from the business side,
43:00
Speaker 6: from other sides, they're going to incorporate artificial intelligence. They
43:03
Speaker 6: aren't exactly sure yet from a football perspective that, I
43:07
Speaker 6: can tell you the coaches want it. GM John Schneider
43:10
Speaker 6: wants it in his scouting department. They want to chase
43:12
Speaker 6: all the edges they can. Neil Kozlov mentioned that as well,
43:15
Speaker 6: that John Schneider and Mike McDonald always chase edges, and
43:19
Speaker 6: they're going to be there to help them chase those
43:20
Speaker 6: edges if they want AI, but they're not going to
43:22
Speaker 6: shove it down the football op's throat. I think you
43:25
Speaker 6: will see it, though, in the fan experience in the stadium,
43:28
Speaker 6: whether that's video boards or how you buy food from
43:31
Speaker 6: your seat or the concession lines or the entrance and
43:35
Speaker 6: egress of the stadium. I think AI is going to
43:38
Speaker 6: have an influence on a lot of the fan experience
43:40
Speaker 6: that's still to be determined.
43:43
Speaker 4: And then the stadium itself.
43:45
Speaker 6: One of the first questions they got asked in the
43:47
Speaker 6: formal part of the press conference was about Lumen Field.
43:50
Speaker 4: It was one of my questions I would have asked.
43:53
Speaker 6: And again, Vinod Khosla, the front man, the 71-year-old patriarch, said,
43:58
Speaker 6: we view this as an iconic venue. Sure, there may
44:01
Speaker 6: be some improvements down the road that we might want
44:03
Speaker 6: to learn about to add to, but for now... They
44:07
Speaker 6: portrayed this as a turnkey operation, and they're going to
44:10
Speaker 6: keep it the way it's been.
44:12
Speaker 1: I didn't think about the fan experience in terms of concessions.
44:15
Speaker 1: And maybe people can text us at 49451. I think
44:19
Speaker 1: the last time I went to Lumen as a fan
44:22
Speaker 1: of something and not in a media capacity was the
44:25
Speaker 1: Kenny Chesney-Zach Brown Band concert a year or two years ago.
44:29
Speaker 1: I think it was now. And I do remember long lines.
44:33
Speaker 1: It was really bad. I want to get a beer.
44:35
Speaker 1: I want to get whatever. Whereas, you know, the one thing,
44:39
Speaker 1: and maybe that's changed, and if it has 49451, I
44:40
Speaker 1: don't want to be unfair. But T-Mobile Park, you can
44:44
Speaker 1: learn some things. Anders, you sit in my seats all
44:47
Speaker 1: the time.
44:48
Speaker 2: Oh, yes.
44:48
Speaker 1: The grab-and-go stuff and the AI and all that, Climate
44:52
Speaker 1: Pledge was ahead of the game of everybody when they
44:54
Speaker 1: built it. Now, obviously, it's brand new. And then T-Mobile
44:56
Speaker 1: is the same way. Like, there are no lines.
44:58
Speaker 6: Yep.
44:59
Speaker 1: By and large. Like, walk in, walk out, thanks for coming.
45:02
Speaker 6: Yeah.
45:02
Speaker 2: It's almost like they care a lot about people spending
45:04
Speaker 2: money for them.
45:05
Speaker 1: They do. But I think that's a big thing, Greg,
45:07
Speaker 1: because in the NFL, you really have one opportunity. Yep.
45:11
Speaker 1: And it's 12 minutes long. Yep. And that's halftime. So
45:14
Speaker 1: if they can do something like that, I think that
45:16
Speaker 1: would be welcomed by fans.
45:17
Speaker 6: You also in Lumen Field have 25-year-old concourses.
45:21
Speaker 8: Yeah.
45:22
Speaker 6: In a football stadium that's constantly packed, unlike T-Mobile Park
45:26
Speaker 6: where it's 30,000, 35,000 most nights, 20,000 some nights, it
45:30
Speaker 6: is constantly full capacity of 68,000 in Lumen Field in
45:34
Speaker 6: 25-year-old concourses. I think that's one way they could, how
45:39
Speaker 6: you would redesign the infrastructure of Lumen Field with the
45:41
Speaker 6: footprint they currently have, I'm not sure. Do they raise
45:43
Speaker 6: it like Penn State and other stadiums do and put
45:46
Speaker 6: luxury seating at the end of the first deck? I
45:49
Speaker 6: think they're going to close the north end and northwest
45:52
Speaker 6: corners of the stadium. That's an obvious place, the open
45:54
Speaker 6: end of downtown side next to Hawks Nest, to increase capacity.
45:58
Speaker 6: The other thing that was interesting that wasn't on the
46:00
Speaker 6: press conference part, I spent about 20, 25 minutes talking
46:03
Speaker 6: off the record, more conversationally, with both Vinod Khosla and Neil,
46:07
Speaker 6: his son. And it struck me that Vinod Khosla made
46:11
Speaker 6: a point to me that Neil's going to be the
46:13
Speaker 6: details guy.
46:14
Speaker 4: The every day, he's 33 years old only.
46:16
Speaker 1: Yeah.
46:17
Speaker 6: Neil Kozler, or Vinod Kozler and his wife, Niru, are 71.
46:21
Speaker 6: But the day-to-day operations that I think John Schneider and
46:23
Speaker 6: Mike McDonald are going to deal with, like they did
46:25
Speaker 6: Jody Allen and Paul Allen, is going to be Neil Kozler.
46:28
Speaker 4: He's the details guy, is what Vinod told me.
46:31
Speaker 6: And then he went on to brag about his son,
46:33
Speaker 6: saying that his son developed the first mathematical model for
46:37
Speaker 6: draft pick values, rounds one through seven, when he was
46:40
Speaker 6: an intern with the 49ers. There are Jimmy Johnson charts
46:43
Speaker 6: and variations of the Jimmy Johnson charts that have been
46:45
Speaker 6: around for decades in the NFL that most people have
46:46
Speaker 6: heard about. But his dad claimed, and Neil confirmed to
46:50
Speaker 6: me that this is true, that Neil Kozler, when he
46:52
Speaker 6: was an intern with the 49ers for a brief time,
46:55
Speaker 6: developed a mathematical model that was more based less on
46:58
Speaker 6: hunches of a football guy like Jimmy Johnson's model and
47:00
Speaker 6: more on empirical numbers and relative values of draft picks.
47:04
Speaker 6: The 49ers apparently still use Neil Kozler's model. So I
47:07
Speaker 6: asked him, well, what is it? What numbers are you?
47:10
Speaker 6: And he was starting to answer to me, and he
47:12
Speaker 6: looked at me and said, oh, wait a minute.
47:15
Speaker 3: We may use this.
47:16
Speaker 4: We meaning now the current Seahawks.
47:19
Speaker 6: For those of you that are worried about them being
47:20
Speaker 6: 49er fans, they went to 49ers games when Neil was
47:23
Speaker 6: a son, a young boy, and his father took him
47:27
Speaker 6: to games. And Vinod Kozloning, 3% of the 49ers that
47:30
Speaker 6: he has to divest from by NFL rule when he's
47:34
Speaker 6: taken over the Seahawks. He said, we're Seahawks now. He said,
47:38
Speaker 6: we were fans. We were invested money. We invested our
47:41
Speaker 6: money in the 49ers at the time, but we were fans.
47:45
Speaker 4: But we live there. We are Seahawks now. They may
47:49
Speaker 4: not move here.
47:50
Speaker 6: The only one I'm told may think of moving here
47:52
Speaker 6: is Neil Koza because of the day-to-day operations side. But
47:55
Speaker 6: Vinod and Nero said they are going to remain living
47:57
Speaker 6: in the same home in the Bay Area, Palo Alto,
47:59
Speaker 6: that they've lived since 1986.
48:01
Speaker 1: One man's opinion of mine, I agree. I don't think
48:05
Speaker 1: there could be anything more overblown and less to worry
48:10
Speaker 1: about than people's paranoia about the Steelers' comment or the 49ers' ownership.
48:16
Speaker 1: They just spent $ 9. 5 billion to own an NFL team.
48:21
Speaker 1: To think that this isn't the team they care about most,
48:24
Speaker 1: that they are now fans of... I think a lot
48:27
Speaker 1: of our listeners are probably transplants at some point and
48:29
Speaker 1: have been different places. You and I have lived different places,
48:34
Speaker 1: so we understand better than maybe some of our hosts
48:35
Speaker 1: that have never left Seattle, for example. You can change allegiance.
48:41
Speaker 1: Sometimes it takes time. Sometimes it takes a job. But
48:45
Speaker 1: in the case of someone buying a team, that just
48:50
Speaker 1: to me is such a thing that I can't even
48:52
Speaker 1: fathom worrying about. Again, they spent almost $ 10 billion on
48:55
Speaker 1: a franchise.
48:55
Speaker 3: And most.
48:56
Speaker 6: Professional sports franchises around the world are not owned by
48:59
Speaker 6: locally homegrown people.
49:01
Speaker 1: People that grew up, I grew up a fan and
49:02
Speaker 1: I bought the team later. No, that doesn't happen.
49:04
Speaker 4: It's not a lemonade stand. No. It's very unusual for
49:08
Speaker 4: that to happen.
49:08
Speaker 6: We've been fortunate in this market that the Seahawks have
49:11
Speaker 6: been owned by the same family since 1997.
49:13
Speaker 1: Paul Allen grew up a Sonics fan.
49:14
Speaker 6: That's right.
49:16
Speaker 1: But I'm going to tell you from working down there,
49:17
Speaker 1: he cared about the Blazers.
49:19
Speaker 5: A lot.
49:20
Speaker 1: A lot. Too much for some people is good. And
49:24
Speaker 1: I've worked for teams, both in hockey and have switched
49:29
Speaker 1: the lines at snap of the finger. Didn't Didn't matter
49:33
Speaker 1: at all. Hell, I know this, working for the Kraken,
49:35
Speaker 1: my affinity towards that team became instant as soon as
49:37
Speaker 1: I saw a paycheck. I didn't buy the team, but
49:39
Speaker 1: it just, I don't think that's a concern. My only
49:43
Speaker 1: wonder is, how much do they mess with the front office?
49:47
Speaker 1: And not the front office football.
49:49
Speaker 3: No, the business side.
49:49
Speaker 1: The business side.
49:50
Speaker 4: President Chuck Arnold, who was there at the press conference.
49:52
Speaker 1: Yeah.
49:53
Speaker 6: They also nod to the current operations, and they said
49:56
Speaker 6: they like what they see, and there's no reason to
49:58
Speaker 6: change it. They are in learning mode and stepping back
50:01
Speaker 6: to learning mode. They're going to be here quite often,
50:04
Speaker 6: but they said that they're going to rely on the
50:06
Speaker 6: people that have already been doing it for all these years.
50:08
Speaker 6: They also may mention the fact, and I think we
50:11
Speaker 6: brought this up the other day, of how many long-term
50:14
Speaker 6: Seahawks employees there are in that building. And Neil and
50:18
Speaker 6: Vinod Khosla both said, we're going to defer to the
50:21
Speaker 6: people who have been here a long time working for
50:24
Speaker 6: the Seahawks.
50:25
Speaker 1: I have a friend. We were involved in youth sports
50:28
Speaker 1: for a long time. He's a senior ticket executive, but
50:31
Speaker 1: he sells tickets. That's his job. He's been there for
50:34
Speaker 1: 30 years. And that's typical of who they have working
50:40
Speaker 1: in their front office. And a job that you're grinding,
50:44
Speaker 1: now it's the NFL. You're going to say, well, there
50:46
Speaker 1: have been times over his tenure that it's been a grind.
50:49
Speaker 1: Still there. I'm really curious about the stadium because you
50:54
Speaker 1: and I have been all across the NFL. I think
50:56
Speaker 1: this is one of the more unique stadiums in the
50:58
Speaker 1: NFL because it's a little bit of a throwback. It's
51:01
Speaker 1: old school. They've done, you mentioned the concourses are old.
51:04
Speaker 3: Yes.
51:05
Speaker 1: The club levels and some of those places, they've renovated tremendously.
51:09
Speaker 1: They look great. I don't get what they did where
51:11
Speaker 1: we walked by to go to the press box. The
51:13
Speaker 1: nightclub they made down there, I don't get that at all.
51:16
Speaker 1: I think that's the weirdest.
51:17
Speaker 4: Thing I've ever seen.
51:17
Speaker 1: They're trying to copy Dallas and Jerry Jones. But Dallas,
51:20
Speaker 1: you can see the field.
51:20
Speaker 4: I know.
51:21
Speaker 1: You can't see the field. Outside of that, the stadium,
51:23
Speaker 1: I think it would be cool to see the loudest
51:27
Speaker 1: stadium in the NFL fill in the two gaps where
51:30
Speaker 1: noise can escape.
51:31
Speaker 3: Yep.
51:32
Speaker 1: That would be wild.
51:32
Speaker 3: I think it's going to happen. That will get the
51:34
Speaker 3: capacity above 70,000.
51:35
Speaker 6: That's a threshold to host the Super Bowl if they
51:37
Speaker 6: have designs on doing that someday.
51:39
Speaker 1: Okay, stop right there. Stop right there. Before I go,
51:41
Speaker 1: that's an interesting point. The current ownership front office has
51:45
Speaker 1: never wanted to do that. Right. I wonder if these
51:48
Speaker 1: guys changed their mind. I don't know. It seems like
51:50
Speaker 1: cold weather would be hard. You got a story coming
51:51
Speaker 1: up in the News Tribune?
51:52
Speaker 3: Writing it right now.
51:53
Speaker 4: The lead quote is, we're not coming in here shaking
51:55
Speaker 4: our fists.
51:56
Speaker 6: And that's what's going to be on the News Tribune,
51:57
Speaker 6: that football ops should stay as status quo.
52:00
Speaker 3: And why wouldn't it? They're Super Bowl champs.
52:01
Speaker 1: Get her done. That's Greg Bell. You'll hear him 10
52:04
Speaker 1: to noon every day. Also in the News Tribune covering
52:06
Speaker 1: the game tonight. Follow along as well. We'll come back.
52:08
Speaker 1: Talk a little college football. Stu Mandel next.
52:15
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52:18
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52:41
Speaker 1: All right, here we go. Stuart Mandel joining us. We're
52:44
Speaker 1: at Jimmy's on first. Yes, it's opening day for the Seahawks.
52:47
Speaker 1: The Mariners are playing across the street, and that doesn't
52:49
Speaker 1: really matter anymore after what happened last night and over
52:52
Speaker 1: the last few weeks. We've got to talk some college
52:55
Speaker 1: football because it's all going down. Seahawks, we'll get back
52:58
Speaker 1: to them coming up at 2 o'clock with our good
53:00
Speaker 1: friend Corbin Smith. But in the meantime, Stuart Mandel joining
53:04
Speaker 1: us from The Athletic and The Audible podcast. Hi, Stu.
53:06
Speaker 3: How are you?
53:07
Speaker 7: Good, Ian.
53:07
Speaker 2: How are you?
53:08
Speaker 1: Nothing to talk about in college football this week. Nothing
53:11
Speaker 1: whatsoever to talk about in college football. What a week.
53:15
Speaker 1: What a week. I'm going to get your thoughts on
53:18
Speaker 1: Washington and the Apple Cup in a second, the standalone
53:20
Speaker 1: game on Sunday. We had a heck of a game
53:22
Speaker 1: as well later on Sunday. One of the two turned
53:25
Speaker 1: out pretty good. We had a power outage on Monday,
53:28
Speaker 1: but all eyes were still on. Ann Arbor, Michigan, and
53:32
Speaker 1: the dust is kind of settled. I don't know if
53:34
Speaker 1: it ever will settle, but how would you just summarize
53:39
Speaker 1: all things clock gate with the Michigan Wolverines in Western Michigan?
53:44
Speaker 11: It was kind of like every aspect of dysfunction in
53:47
Speaker 11: college football all converged at once that night. You know,
53:53
Speaker 11: the fact that it took, the game was on Saturday
53:55
Speaker 11: and it took me until Tuesday night probably to fully
53:58
Speaker 11: understand what happened.
54:00
Speaker 10: Tells you something.
54:02
Speaker 11: In the meantime, the public now has this idea in
54:05
Speaker 11: their heads that there's a secret clock that the conferences keep, right?
54:09
Speaker 10: And that's not necessarily the case.
54:11
Speaker 11: But, I mean, at the end of the day, when
54:13
Speaker 11: the NCAA put out that memo on Tuesday, that's really
54:16
Speaker 11: a clarification going forward, but it kind of tells you, oh, yeah,
54:21
Speaker 11: the Big Ten did not handle this right, which is,
54:24
Speaker 11: you know, yes, the replay officials have access to their
54:27
Speaker 11: own feed, Right. But if it's a situation like this
54:33
Speaker 11: where it's weather to put a second back on the clock,
54:36
Speaker 11: they have to use a feed that has the TV
54:40
Speaker 11: clock because of exactly what happened.
54:43
Speaker 5: Right.
54:44
Speaker 11: Everybody who's watching at home can see the time ran
54:47
Speaker 11: out and the Big Ten comes and says, well, but
54:49
Speaker 11: ours said one second.
54:51
Speaker 6: Right.
54:51
Speaker 10: Because of the lag or whatever that may be.
54:54
Speaker 11: And so the protocol is in that situation, you have
54:57
Speaker 11: to use the TV version. And from what I'm told,
55:01
Speaker 11: like in other conferences, this is just like a known thing.
55:05
Speaker 11: Like everybody's always known this, but nobody ever thought to
55:08
Speaker 11: put it in writing. And so when I say dysfunction,
55:10
Speaker 11: like the fact that the head of officiating for the
55:13
Speaker 11: NCAA has to put out a memo saying, okay.
55:15
Speaker 10: Now we're putting this in writing.
55:17
Speaker 11: This thing that really would have come in handy the
55:20
Speaker 11: other night in Ann Arbor just tells you how, I mean,
55:24
Speaker 11: at the end of the day, the fact that each
55:25
Speaker 11: conference has their own officiant operation is so.
55:29
Speaker 10: Not up to the level of what it should be.
55:32
Speaker 1: We're going to get to bigger picture stuff in a
55:34
Speaker 1: second because a couple of things jump out. I saw
55:37
Speaker 1: you wrote something like, you know, you're 15 minutes in TV.
55:40
Speaker 1: I hope you understand a little bit. I've spent most
55:43
Speaker 1: of my life since college, out of college, in some
55:46
Speaker 1: form of TV as well as radio and have a
55:49
Speaker 1: decent handle. I mentioned this yesterday to Anders and our audience. Listen,
55:54
Speaker 1: I'm sure this didn't happen, but I'm questioning it anyway,
55:57
Speaker 1: and I'm going to say it publicly again. Stu, in
56:00
Speaker 1: the world of television, our editor for the Kraken, for example,
56:05
Speaker 1: Stu Vichu, unbelievable. If I gave him three minutes on
56:09
Speaker 1: his computer and his post-production stuff, he could make anything
56:14
Speaker 1: look how he wanted it to. In other words, I
56:18
Speaker 1: don't give the Big Ten any credit. It might be
56:20
Speaker 1: all legit, but I don't give them any credit for
56:22
Speaker 1: coming out two hours later and showing us a video
56:24
Speaker 1: and saying this. Everything about it was garbage, and I
56:27
Speaker 1: just got to ask myself, If this was Michigan playing Indiana,
56:32
Speaker 1: would they have really gone back and put a half
56:36
Speaker 1: a tenth of a second back on?
56:37
Speaker 10: It's a valid question.
56:38
Speaker 11: I mean, there's nothing you can say here that's going
56:40
Speaker 11: to debunk any conspiracy theories. You know, the interesting thing
56:43
Speaker 11: is initially I did give the Big Ten a lot
56:45
Speaker 11: of credit for putting that out there because I'd never
56:46
Speaker 11: seen it. I'd never seen a conference say, here's exactly
56:50
Speaker 11: what we were seeing and here's the audio of the conversation.
56:53
Speaker 11: But it turns out that in doing so, is what
56:56
Speaker 11: let everybody else in college officiating know they did it wrong.
56:59
Speaker 11: Because you can see they have that angle from behind
57:03
Speaker 11: the end zone on the left side and the clock
57:06
Speaker 11: on the right side. And they're kind of matching them up.
57:09
Speaker 11: And the protocol is, no, no, no. You have to
57:12
Speaker 11: use something that has a scoreboard, the clock in it.
57:15
Speaker 11: You can't match them up like that. So I don't
57:18
Speaker 11: know if nobody told the Big Ten or the Big
57:20
Speaker 11: Ten didn't care. We do it our way. Clearly nobody
57:24
Speaker 11: ever thought through what, would happen in a scenario like this.
57:29
Speaker 1: Stuart Mandel joining us from the athletic. Okay. Here's the
57:32
Speaker 1: perverse part of me. And this is bad. I'm going to,
57:35
Speaker 1: I'm a bad person for saying this too. The only
57:38
Speaker 1: silver lining I found in all that was, Hey man,
57:41
Speaker 1: it's college football. Something crazy happened. And we're talking about it.
57:44
Speaker 1: It was on the field. It had nothing to do
57:46
Speaker 1: with a courtroom, a lawsuit, an appeals court, an appellate judge,
57:51
Speaker 1: LSU cheating or bringing in NFL players, uh, So there
57:54
Speaker 1: is part of me that says, Hey, we're back to
57:56
Speaker 1: college football, Stu.
57:56
Speaker 11: Well, I mean, yeah, it's a little unfortunate that the
58:00
Speaker 11: biggest storyline off week one involved a controversy, like, uh,
58:03
Speaker 11: you know, the mechanics of replay.
58:06
Speaker 10: Um, but it was fun to watch games.
58:07
Speaker 11: In fact, probably the two most, you know, three most
58:11
Speaker 11: fun games.
58:11
Speaker 10: One was Boise, Oregon, obviously. And then the other two
58:14
Speaker 10: were on Sunday.
58:15
Speaker 11: Night and Monday night and Louisville Ole Miss was, was, um,
58:19
Speaker 11: you know, great down to the wire game where we
58:22
Speaker 11: saw a lot of big plays, obviously trying to add
58:24
Speaker 11: Chambliss doing his thing.
58:26
Speaker 10: SMU Florida state was hilarious.
58:27
Speaker 11: I mean, it, it was every, the, the weather, I
58:31
Speaker 11: mean the, the power outage and the delay, but then
58:33
Speaker 11: like the fact that that was even a game at
58:35
Speaker 11: the end when SMU was so clearly the better team
58:38
Speaker 11: and just actually dominated the box score. And then the
58:42
Speaker 11: whole subplot of, The Florida State fans are like, on
58:45
Speaker 11: one second, they're doing the tomahawk chop, and the next second,
58:47
Speaker 11: they're booing. They couldn't figure out, do I want them
58:50
Speaker 11: to win or do I want them to lose so
58:52
Speaker 11: we can get rid of Norvell?
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59:14
Speaker 1: every weekend. All right, let's go through some of the
59:16
Speaker 1: stuff that happened. We'll look ahead to the weekend as well. Stu,
59:18
Speaker 1: let me start. I'm going to actually stay with Michigan.
59:21
Speaker 1: I had not given any thought to this, but Here
59:25
Speaker 1: in Seattle, we have a $ 4. 5 million a year quarterback
59:28
Speaker 1: in DeMond Williams. We'll get to him in a second.
59:30
Speaker 1: And the Apple Cup, because there's some people that are
59:33
Speaker 1: questioning all that. There's a lot of people questioning Bryce
59:36
Speaker 1: Underwood and Michigan. And the bigger picture is, you were
59:40
Speaker 1: asked this in your mailbag, and I was fascinated. I
59:42
Speaker 1: was thinking about this. I hadn't thought in these terms.
59:45
Speaker 1: All the big money being thrown around in college football,
59:49
Speaker 1: are there starting to be some red flags when you
59:51
Speaker 1: start throwing that at an 18-year-old kid that's never taken
59:53
Speaker 1: a snap in college football?
59:56
Speaker 12: Yeah.
59:56
Speaker 11: And I think as time has gone on, you know,
59:58
Speaker 11: the Bryce Underwood deal was one of the last ones
1:00:00
Speaker 11: before revenue sharing. And so it was one of the
1:00:04
Speaker 11: last kind of crazy moments of literally Larry Ellison of
1:00:08
Speaker 11: all people and his wife bankrolled that deal. Now, I
1:00:12
Speaker 11: don't know what that looks like now, now that they
1:00:14
Speaker 11: have rev share, he's probably making some money from that.
1:00:19
Speaker 11: So it's getting more sophisticated, but at the end of
1:00:21
Speaker 11: the day, the players have all the leverage.
1:00:26
Speaker 10: No, let me rephrase that. The players' agents have all
1:00:28
Speaker 10: the leverage.
1:00:28
Speaker 5: Yes.
1:00:29
Speaker 11: Because these deals are not public. In the NFL, everybody
1:00:32
Speaker 11: knows everybody makes. So it's kind of hard to pull
1:00:35
Speaker 11: a fast one on an NFL team. But these agents,
1:00:39
Speaker 11: they'll just go and say, this is what the guy, well,
1:00:41
Speaker 11: Alabama's offering this, so you need to pay him this.
1:00:44
Speaker 11: And you just kind of have to take their word
1:00:45
Speaker 11: for it. But what I was told is, quarterbacks are
1:00:50
Speaker 11: one thing. I think big time high school quarterbacks have
1:00:52
Speaker 11: always been paid a lot, but in general, the prices
1:00:56
Speaker 11: for the high school players in this coming class have
1:00:58
Speaker 11: gone up quite a bit. I think there's just more
1:01:02
Speaker 11: and more money in the system. And for whatever reason,
1:01:04
Speaker 11: now the high school players are standing up and saying,
1:01:06
Speaker 11: we want some of that too, not just the portal guys.
1:01:09
Speaker 10: So the costs are just going to keep going up
1:01:11
Speaker 10: and up and up.
1:01:11
Speaker 11: But you know, the Bryce Underwood thing, you know, you
1:01:15
Speaker 11: kind of wonder if this were five years ago and they,
1:01:17
Speaker 11: nobody was being paid.
1:01:19
Speaker 10: Would they have tried somebody else by now?
1:01:21
Speaker 5: Right.
1:01:22
Speaker 11: They probably have to feel like, well, given who, who
1:01:24
Speaker 11: stepped up with the money and how much money is involved,
1:01:27
Speaker 11: like we got to keep playing this guy, even if
1:01:29
Speaker 11: it's starting to become obvious that it's just not going
1:01:31
Speaker 11: to work.
1:01:31
Speaker 1: And that's how I think that's the big problem with
1:01:33
Speaker 1: the whole process, right? Is that especially the quarterback position,
1:01:36
Speaker 1: it's not just a Michigan thing. It's all across college
1:01:39
Speaker 1: football is if you have a quarterback and you're spending
1:01:41
Speaker 1: a lot of money on said quarterback, it's not like
1:01:44
Speaker 1: the NFL where it's a salary cap and you can, Hey,
1:01:46
Speaker 1: you know what? We can move on. We, we're going
1:01:48
Speaker 1: to trade Kyler Murray or bench him or do something
1:01:50
Speaker 1: like that. No, you've invested in probably one player at
1:01:54
Speaker 1: that particular position. There's got to be pressure on coaches
1:01:58
Speaker 1: just to stick with those guys through thick and thin.
1:02:00
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think so. Now, we don't know what they're
1:02:04
Speaker 10: all making.
1:02:05
Speaker 3: Right?
1:02:06
Speaker 6: Right.
1:02:06
Speaker 10: Breitzunder was an example of one that came out.
1:02:08
Speaker 11: DeMond Williams was an example of one that came out
1:02:10
Speaker 11: because of that legal situation involved in it.
1:02:12
Speaker 10: So we don't know what everybody's making. But we have
1:02:15
Speaker 10: a good idea. And so.
1:02:18
Speaker 11: That's why, again, I think if it's an established portal
1:02:21
Speaker 11: guy like a Sam Levitt, Darian.
1:02:24
Speaker 10: Mensah, you pretty much know what you're getting. You do
1:02:27
Speaker 10: not know what you're getting.
1:02:28
Speaker 11: The bust rate on those five-star quarterbacks is very high.
1:02:32
Speaker 11: If you look back at the class from three years ago,
1:02:35
Speaker 11: Arch Manning's in that class, Dante Moore's in that class,
1:02:38
Speaker 11: but so is a guy named Malachi Nelson who started
1:02:41
Speaker 11: at USC and couldn't win the job at Boise State.
1:02:45
Speaker 11: He went to UTEP, and I think I frankly lost
1:02:47
Speaker 11: track of him, right? So for every huge success story
1:02:51
Speaker 11: among those five-star quarterbacks, there's somebody like that.
1:02:55
Speaker 1: I've thought about him a lot because back then we
1:02:59
Speaker 1: were still talking about the Pac-10 all the time and
1:03:01
Speaker 1: Pac-12 all the time. And when Malachi Nelson, when he
1:03:06
Speaker 1: couldn't beat out Maddox Mattson, I'll do respect to Maddox Madsen.
1:03:09
Speaker 1: He's a good college quarterback, but he's, that's what he is.
1:03:12
Speaker 1: Like there's a problem. I, we go back six years, Stu,
1:03:15
Speaker 1: Sam Heward was a, the top quarterback in the nation
1:03:18
Speaker 1: from Kennedy Catholic here in our area. We've looked at
1:03:21
Speaker 1: my son played against him. So he, for some reason,
1:03:23
Speaker 1: he's kind of buddies with him still. They played high
1:03:24
Speaker 1: school hoops and a you together a little bit. He's like,
1:03:27
Speaker 1: do you know, Sam still at USC? I'm like, there's
1:03:29
Speaker 1: no way he's still at USC. He goes, yeah, he's
1:03:30
Speaker 1: at USC. He's on the USC roster six years in
1:03:34
Speaker 1: five school, four schools, six years in it's, The bust
1:03:36
Speaker 1: rate's really high at that position, so we'll see what
1:03:39
Speaker 1: people do. All right, Stu, let me get to the
1:03:41
Speaker 1: Apple Cup. We'll get to DeMond in a minute and
1:03:44
Speaker 1: UW overall. Just your thoughts from outside looking in. It
1:03:47
Speaker 1: was a standalone game, so I know you got a
1:03:49
Speaker 1: chance to take a peek at it. It's a Sunday afternoon,
1:03:52
Speaker 1: 75 degrees in September, and it's a non-conference game, first
1:03:55
Speaker 1: game of the year for both teams. What did you
1:03:58
Speaker 1: just think of the overall feel of the game, at
1:04:00
Speaker 1: least what you could feel on TV?
1:04:01
Speaker 10: It felt weird.
1:04:02
Speaker 11: I don't know what it felt like there, but it just,
1:04:04
Speaker 11: it didn't feel like the apple cup, um, as we
1:04:07
Speaker 11: known it. And I was trying to kind of pinpoint why.
1:04:10
Speaker 11: And I just think like when these two were in
1:04:11
Speaker 11: the same conference on the same level, um, like nothing
1:04:16
Speaker 11: would really surprise.
1:04:17
Speaker 10: You one way or the other.
1:04:17
Speaker 1: Right.
1:04:18
Speaker 12: Right.
1:04:18
Speaker 10: There were a lot of upsets in that rivalry.
1:04:21
Speaker 11: It's kind of one of those throw out the records,
1:04:23
Speaker 11: but now it's basically big 10 team versus G six team.
1:04:27
Speaker 11: And so when Washington comes out and isn't blowing them
1:04:29
Speaker 11: off the field, Like, well, what's wrong with Washington? And
1:04:33
Speaker 11: it's like more of a, you know, kind of early
1:04:36
Speaker 11: season tune-up game than it is intense rivalry game.
1:04:40
Speaker 1: I felt, yeah, and that's the thing that jumped out
1:04:43
Speaker 1: at me. It just, the fans, at least the, by
1:04:47
Speaker 1: all accounts, the fans weren't as into it as they
1:04:48
Speaker 1: used to be for all the reasons you just said.
1:04:51
Speaker 1: Wazoo kind of, you know, and I'm a Wazoo guy.
1:04:53
Speaker 1: I mean, we're all kind of feeling a little left out,
1:04:55
Speaker 1: and so it's hard to get fired up. And, you know,
1:04:57
Speaker 1: usually that game would be one where it could ruin
1:04:59
Speaker 1: a season, make a season. ruinable, whatever it could be,
1:05:03
Speaker 1: and that's not the case anymore. You said something interesting there,
1:05:07
Speaker 1: because there's been a lot of talk in this town, obviously.
1:05:10
Speaker 1: Washington's here, and Jed had his press conference. The offensive
1:05:13
Speaker 1: line coach snapped yesterday in his press conference, said how
1:05:15
Speaker 1: bad his team was. It's interesting that Washington was bad
1:05:19
Speaker 1: and not Wazoo's defense was good. Trent Bray's a good
1:05:21
Speaker 1: D coordinator. I liked our defense in that game. I
1:05:24
Speaker 1: liked Boise State against Oregon as well. It's one game,
1:05:28
Speaker 1: but What'd you think of some of the G6 performances
1:05:31
Speaker 1: across the country? Cause you had those two that were good,
1:05:34
Speaker 1: not the result. Then you had Utah state losing to
1:05:36
Speaker 1: an FCS school.
1:05:38
Speaker 11: I mean, I have such respect for Boise state and
1:05:39
Speaker 11: they were my G6 team coming in that I didn't
1:05:42
Speaker 11: come away from it thinking like, Oh, Oregon's overrated, you know, like, yeah,
1:05:46
Speaker 11: there were some concerns there, but they, the same exact
1:05:49
Speaker 11: thing happened two years ago when Oregon turned around and
1:05:51
Speaker 11: went 13 to no, um, you know, had not considered
1:05:55
Speaker 11: Western Michigan as being in the G six playoff mix,
1:05:58
Speaker 11: but maybe they are depending on what ends up happening
1:06:00
Speaker 11: with Michigan. I mean, I think both Oregon state and
1:06:02
Speaker 11: Washington state and perhaps even more so Oregon state looked
1:06:04
Speaker 11: better than expected.
1:06:05
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:06:06
Speaker 11: You know, Oregon state has picked dead last in this,
1:06:08
Speaker 11: in this new pack 12 and they were competitive against
1:06:12
Speaker 11: the Houston team that won double.
1:06:14
Speaker 10: Digit games last year.
1:06:16
Speaker 11: So it's hard to say with Washington state, like how
1:06:20
Speaker 11: much of it was them and how much of it
1:06:21
Speaker 11: was dysfunction on the part of Watkins and the offense
1:06:23
Speaker 11: that Um, I just know that I definitely come, I
1:06:27
Speaker 11: didn't necessarily come away with concerns about Oregon, but I
1:06:29
Speaker 11: do definitely with Washington. I mean, the offensive line coach
1:06:33
Speaker 11: is right. They did not play well. Um, their top
1:06:36
Speaker 11: two tailbacks are hurt already. Um, and then DeMond Williams,
1:06:39
Speaker 11: 4.5 million or not just continues to be this guy
1:06:42
Speaker 11: who is like so talented and has these big moments
1:06:46
Speaker 11: like he did on the drive towards the end of
1:06:47
Speaker 11: the game, but it's still clearly not a finished product.
1:06:51
Speaker 10: And that makes you nervous at times.
1:06:53
Speaker 1: Third and nine, and he makes a move in the
1:06:55
Speaker 1: open field and jukes a couple guys, and only a
1:06:58
Speaker 1: handful of guys in the country can probably do that.
1:07:01
Speaker 1: That clinches the game. I'm not so sure our offense
1:07:03
Speaker 1: would have gone down the field even with three timeouts
1:07:06
Speaker 1: because Pinnock was struggling, but that was a game clincher. But, yeah,
1:07:09
Speaker 1: there was a lot of misses on DeMond's part. Undisciplined
1:07:12
Speaker 1: play by Washington as well. They should have an easy
1:07:14
Speaker 1: time against Utah State this week. Stuart Mandell joining us.
1:07:17
Speaker 1: Let's look ahead a little bit. Actually, let me ask
1:07:20
Speaker 1: you this because I didn't watch him play. I know
1:07:21
Speaker 1: they had a huge blowout win. What's Kansas State all about?
1:07:24
Speaker 1: We know about the quarterback, kind of maybe similar to
1:07:26
Speaker 1: what we just saw a little longer than DeMond, but
1:07:28
Speaker 1: what's K-State all about? Because that's where Wazoo is this week.
1:07:31
Speaker 11: I think there's still a little bit of mystery there
1:07:32
Speaker 11: because new coach, and they didn't play to nobody this week.
1:07:36
Speaker 11: But yeah, Avery Johnson, the story of Avery Johnson is highest,
1:07:40
Speaker 11: I think highest ranked QB Kansas State had ever signed,
1:07:43
Speaker 11: or maybe first, no, first, highest since Josh Freeman all
1:07:46
Speaker 11: those years ago. And has been, and now is a
1:07:50
Speaker 11: third year starter. has been okay, but he's never quite
1:07:53
Speaker 11: been the savior that they thought he would be. But
1:07:57
Speaker 11: the curiosity now is, okay, Colin Klein comes back. He
1:08:00
Speaker 11: was Avery Johnson's OC originally. Is he going to get
1:08:04
Speaker 11: something out of him that the previous coaching staff didn't?
1:08:07
Speaker 11: So we'll get a sign of that this week.
1:08:10
Speaker 1: Stu, we've got a couple big games, and I'm going
1:08:12
Speaker 1: to say one's in the G6. I'll get to that
1:08:14
Speaker 1: in a second. Obviously, Ohio State and Texas. What are
1:08:19
Speaker 1: we thinking in that game? What are you looking for
1:08:20
Speaker 1: in that game? What would you tell fans to kind
1:08:21
Speaker 1: of keep an eye on? I mean, obviously, March Manning's
1:08:23
Speaker 1: all about it. You know, the best wide receiver, maybe
1:08:25
Speaker 1: the highest trophy candidate leader on the other side in Smith.
1:08:29
Speaker 1: But what are you looking at in that game?
1:08:31
Speaker 11: I'm very curious to see Ohio State's defense in this
1:08:33
Speaker 11: game last year was first game of the season. They
1:08:36
Speaker 11: came out and dominated and it kind of set the
1:08:38
Speaker 11: tone the whole rest of the way. But that defense
1:08:42
Speaker 11: has now lost some astounding number of draft picks over
1:08:46
Speaker 11: the last two years. And so you just keep wondering, like,
1:08:49
Speaker 11: can they just keep really plugging in and keep going?
1:08:52
Speaker 11: That Texas offense is a lot more dynamic this year.
1:08:55
Speaker 11: They got Hollywood's mothers and really Brown in the backfield
1:08:59
Speaker 11: who both are thousand yard rushers. They added camp Coleman
1:09:03
Speaker 11: at receiver. Ryan Wingo is still there. Like Texas goes
1:09:06
Speaker 11: into this game much more with many more weapons on
1:09:10
Speaker 11: offense than they did going into the first game last year.
1:09:12
Speaker 11: So that'll be a big test for Ohio state.
1:09:15
Speaker 1: The yeah, there's, there's absolutely no doubt about that. I, I,
1:09:20
Speaker 1: This is not an elimination game at all, either, is it?
1:09:22
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I'm asking, what's the ramifications? It's
1:09:24
Speaker 1: still a 12-team playoff. If it was 24, it would
1:09:27
Speaker 1: be really like, okay, cool, fun game, but really nothing
1:09:30
Speaker 1: at stake. 12-team playoff, it's still really not an elimination game,
1:09:33
Speaker 1: is it?
1:09:34
Speaker 10: Not an elimination game, no.
1:09:36
Speaker 11: More of a curiosity and maybe seeding down the road.
1:09:40
Speaker 11: But I think the difference between this and what we
1:09:42
Speaker 11: might be heading toward is, like, Texas missed the playoff
1:09:46
Speaker 11: last year in large part because they lost to Ohio State, right?
1:09:48
Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
1:09:49
Speaker 11: Everybody gets a mulligan. Not everybody's guaranteed two and certainly
1:09:52
Speaker 11: not three. And when, you know, when I think of 2014,
1:09:55
Speaker 11: this game taking place with a 2014 playoff, first of all,
1:09:58
Speaker 11: Ohio State might as well just be penciled into the
1:10:01
Speaker 11: bracket before the season even starts. They never go eight
1:10:05
Speaker 11: and four. They never even frankly go nine and three.
1:10:09
Speaker 11: Like you would go into the season knowing these two
1:10:10
Speaker 11: teams are definitely going to be in the playoff. And,
1:10:13
Speaker 11: you know, the Tony Petitti view of it as a
1:10:16
Speaker 11: TV guy is, we'll all still watch because it's Texas,
1:10:18
Speaker 11: Ohio state. And the more like concerned viewpoint for me
1:10:23
Speaker 11: is a diehard college football fans are always going to watch,
1:10:26
Speaker 11: but like in terms of the bigger, the people coming
1:10:28
Speaker 11: into the funnel who would be like, Oh, I got
1:10:32
Speaker 11: to watch this game. Are they still going to say
1:10:33
Speaker 11: that knowing that it really has no stakes?
1:10:36
Speaker 1: All right. So the other one I mentioned G six game, Memphis,
1:10:40
Speaker 1: Boise state, Memphis D-line is scary good. Boise State, you
1:10:45
Speaker 1: just said you like them a lot to get maybe
1:10:46
Speaker 1: to the college football playoff, and they were really good
1:10:48
Speaker 1: against Oregon. This is an elimination game, isn't it?
1:10:52
Speaker 6: You know what's.
1:10:52
Speaker 10: Crazy that it worked out this way?
1:10:54
Speaker 11: They are playing Memphis, and then in a couple weeks,
1:10:56
Speaker 11: Boise is going to Western Michigan, at Western Michigan. We're
1:10:59
Speaker 11: going to have like this G6 derby right here in September. Yeah,
1:11:04
Speaker 11: I mean, I don't know about elimination, but definitely– Missed opportunity.
1:11:10
Speaker 11: Like each of these teams has an opportunity to get
1:11:12
Speaker 11: that resume win that will come in handy if they
1:11:15
Speaker 11: end up being in the mix down the road. And
1:11:17
Speaker 11: if you can't pull that off, you know, it makes
1:11:20
Speaker 11: it a lot harder. And I don't even know if
1:11:22
Speaker 11: people realize this, but starting this year, this is the
1:11:25
Speaker 11: new contract of the CFP. It's no longer highest ranked
1:11:28
Speaker 11: G6 champion. It's highest ranked G6 team, period. So let's
1:11:36
Speaker 11: say Boise Panthers. ends up losing in the Mountain West
1:11:39
Speaker 11: Championship game. But they beat Memphis early in the season,
1:11:42
Speaker 11: and those two are being compared to each other. Boise's
1:11:45
Speaker 11: going to finish ahead of them, probably. So, yeah, I
1:11:47
Speaker 11: would say it's funny to think that, like, these G6
1:11:50
Speaker 11: games might have higher stakes in September than the Texas
1:11:53
Speaker 11: Ohio State game.
1:11:55
Speaker 1: I thought that last week when we had UNLV in Memphis,
1:11:58
Speaker 1: that that was, like, You know, UNLV is going to
1:12:00
Speaker 1: have a real tough time at this point. I know
1:12:02
Speaker 1: Dan Mullins had some high expectations there, and that was
1:12:04
Speaker 1: a huge win by Memphis. So fun weekend coming up. Stu,
1:12:07
Speaker 1: tell people about the Audible podcast, which is sensational if
1:12:11
Speaker 1: you're a college football fan.
1:12:12
Speaker 11: The Audible is live on Sunday mornings at 1130 a.m.
1:12:16
Speaker 3: Eastern.
1:12:16
Speaker 11: Wait, why am I saying Eastern for you guys? The
1:12:19
Speaker 11: Audible is live on Sunday mornings at 830 a.m. Pacific
1:12:22
Speaker 11: on YouTube at Audible Show, and it's also available.
1:12:25
Speaker 10: Audio as well.
1:12:26
Speaker 11: And then we have our audio. We're always on YouTube,
1:12:29
Speaker 11: but we have our regular episodes on Tuesdays and Thursdays.
1:12:31
Speaker 1: And it's great stuff. If you're a college football fan,
1:12:33
Speaker 1: make sure you subscribe wherever you get your podcasts on
1:12:35
Speaker 1: the Audible. Bruce Feldman, Ralph Russo, and our guy Stuart
1:12:38
Speaker 1: Mandel on there. Also check out Stuart's work at The Athletic.
1:12:41
Speaker 1: He recaps the games. Last week we had two takeaway columns.
1:12:45
Speaker 1: We had a Saturday one and a Sunday one, which
1:12:47
Speaker 1: was kind of nice when it was all said and done.
1:12:49
Speaker 1: But you'll check that out. Plus, the mailbag comes out
1:12:51
Speaker 1: on Wednesdays. Great stuff from Stuart Mandel. We've made it
1:12:54
Speaker 1: through here at Jimmy's on First, Stu, with the Seahawks
1:12:57
Speaker 1: getting ready to go across the street, Mariners across the
1:12:59
Speaker 1: street as well. So we'll turn you loose. It'll be
1:13:01
Speaker 1: nice and quiet next week, a little more calm and
1:13:03
Speaker 1: cool and collected. We'll talk to you then. Thank you,
1:13:04
Speaker 1: my friend.
1:13:05
Speaker 4: All right.
1:13:05
Speaker 7: Thanks, guys.
1:13:06
Speaker 1: That is Stuart Mandel. We're at Jimmy's on First. Corbin
1:13:09
Speaker 1: Smith coming up 2 o'clock, talking Seahawks 93.3, KJRFM.
1:13:16
Speaker 5: Now back to Ian Furness on your home for the Huskies, Kraken,
1:13:20
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1:13:31
Speaker 1: Great stuff there from Stuart Mandell. We'll check in with
1:13:33
Speaker 1: him every week. Big thanks to Stu for stopping by today.
1:13:38
Speaker 1: Got a Seahawk roster moves. You ready?
1:13:41
Speaker 4: Oh, here we go.
1:13:42
Speaker 1: We have roster moves ahead of tonight's game. Which is
1:13:46
Speaker 1: exactly what they always say. John Boyle, ahead of tonight's game.
1:13:52
Speaker 1: I would say, and Corbin's going to join me here
1:13:54
Speaker 1: in a few minutes, this is a little bit of
1:13:55
Speaker 1: a surprise to me. A.J. Finley was signed off the
1:13:59
Speaker 1: practice squad to the 53-man roster. Safety Rodney Thomas and
1:14:05
Speaker 1: running back Valus Jones were elevated from the practice squad.
1:14:09
Speaker 1: Bryce Cabledew, a guard, was waived off the 53-man.
1:14:13
Speaker 2: Interesting.
1:14:13
Speaker 1: Hey, Bryce, great camp. Opening day. See ya. God, it's
1:14:18
Speaker 1: a brutal business. It is. It is such a brutal business.
1:14:21
Speaker 1: Because he would have... So, Thomas and Bayless Jones were elevated. A.J.
1:14:26
Speaker 1: Finley getting signed off the practice squad. And there's always
1:14:29
Speaker 1: reasons for that in terms of what... It's kind of
1:14:31
Speaker 1: like baseball where you have X number of... Options. Options
1:14:35
Speaker 1: and all that, right? Yep. You never know with guys
1:14:38
Speaker 1: where they're at. Veterans, vested veterans, all that stuff. And,
1:14:41
Speaker 1: you know, I'll let the football nerds take care of
1:14:44
Speaker 1: that stuff. Corbin can explain it to me.
1:14:46
Speaker 6: But.
1:14:47
Speaker 1: When Finley signed off the practice squad as opposed to
1:14:50
Speaker 1: being elevated like Thomas and Bayless Jones were, they had
1:14:53
Speaker 1: to get rid of somebody off the 53 man, and
1:14:55
Speaker 1: that ended up being Bryce Cable. Here's a surprise to me,
1:14:58
Speaker 1: is that it's not DeAnthony Bell.
1:14:59
Speaker 2: I was going to say, it's Roddy Thomas, not DeAnthony Bell.
1:15:02
Speaker 1: So Roddy Thomas is more of a deep safety, so
1:15:05
Speaker 1: is A.J. Finley. Whereas DeAnthony Bell can play both, but
1:15:09
Speaker 1: was the backup to Eamon Worre... in training camp in
1:15:13
Speaker 1: that kind of that box safety Sam linebacker spot that
1:15:17
Speaker 1: Hughes talked about where it's really not even a safety
1:15:19
Speaker 1: in terms of the position.
1:15:20
Speaker 2: It's really another linebacker, yeah.
1:15:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so then people would say, well, is Eamon
1:15:24
Speaker 1: Warrick going to play? I don't think so. My guess is,
1:15:28
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about this with Corbin in a minute,
1:15:31
Speaker 1: my guess would be that Tyrese Knight may fill that
1:15:37
Speaker 1: role of Eamon Warrick.
1:15:38
Speaker 5: Yeah.
1:15:38
Speaker 1: A little bit. I'm guessing that's what they're going to do.
1:15:41
Speaker 2: In a different capacity. Won't be the same.
1:15:43
Speaker 1: He's not the same guy, obviously. But they think he's
1:15:50
Speaker 1: taken big strides forward. And he got beat out by
1:15:53
Speaker 1: Drake Thomas last year. But Tyrese Knight. I'm going to
1:15:58
Speaker 1: think we're going to see him on the field quite
1:16:00
Speaker 1: a bit today.
1:16:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a really good preseason, and then he
1:16:02
Speaker 2: didn't even play in the last preseason game after supposedly
1:16:05
Speaker 2: battling for a roster spot. So that tells me they
1:16:08
Speaker 2: feel pretty good about where he's at.
1:16:09
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
1:16:10
Speaker 3: Yeah.
1:16:11
Speaker 1: And I should also mention real quick, Trayvon Diggs did
1:16:13
Speaker 1: not get elevated either.
1:16:14
Speaker 2: He did not?
1:16:15
Speaker 4: Okay.
1:16:16
Speaker 5: Yeah.
1:16:16
Speaker 2: So light at the secondary positions.
1:16:21
Speaker 1: I've got the depth chart here. Hang on to the
1:16:24
Speaker 1: two deep, as they call it.
1:16:25
Speaker 2: The two deep.
1:16:27
Speaker 1: Oh, you know what? I had the flip card, and
1:16:29
Speaker 1: I don't have it in front of me anymore, but
1:16:30
Speaker 1: I'll have to look and see. Yeah, man, I don't know.
1:16:34
Speaker 1: I think it's some interesting moves, to be honest with you,
1:16:38
Speaker 1: being made. We'll see.
1:16:40
Speaker 2: Here we go, depth chart. Yeah, I got it right here, too. Witherspoon, Joe, Pritchett, Neal,
1:16:45
Speaker 2: and then Avery Smith is the fifth one.
1:16:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, so those are your five, and then your safeties
1:16:49
Speaker 1: are Okada, Love, now Finley, and Thomas.
1:16:52
Speaker 5: Yeah.
1:16:53
Speaker 1: Would be your safeties. And Eamon Worry's obviously not going
1:16:56
Speaker 1: to play when it's all said and done.
1:16:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still on the depth chart right now.
1:16:59
Speaker 1: Yeah. Julian Neal we never saw either, by the way.
1:17:01
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:17:02
Speaker 1: He was hurt the whole time during training camp.
1:17:04
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:17:05
Speaker 1: All right, we'll get to all that stuff. Corbin Smith's
1:17:07
Speaker 1: going to join us in a second. We're at Jimmy's
1:17:08
Speaker 1: on first. He'll be here in just a heartbeat, so
1:17:11
Speaker 1: stand by for that. We'll check in with Corbin. Then
1:17:14
Speaker 1: we'll get you ready to go over a little factor fiction.
1:17:16
Speaker 1: I had a Dave Softy Mauler.
1:17:19
Speaker 6: Who?
1:17:20
Speaker 1: He's a legend. He was in here moments ago leading
1:17:23
Speaker 1: the Bronx cheers when the Mariners tied a game. Was
1:17:26
Speaker 1: that an actual cheer? It was not a cheer. There
1:17:29
Speaker 1: was a lot of sarcasm. It was the most sarcastic cheer.
1:17:33
Speaker 1: The most sarcastic cheer for the Mariners. We call that
1:17:35
Speaker 1: a jeer, Ian. We call that a jeer. It was
1:17:38
Speaker 1: a jeer. It was a jeer. What is a jeer?
1:17:42
Speaker 1: Just get out of here. Go do your thing. Leave
1:17:44
Speaker 1: me alone. Go drink. He's like, yeah.
1:17:49
Speaker 6: Maybe.
1:17:49
Speaker 2: Maybe not.
1:17:50
Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
1:17:50
Speaker 2: That'd be a good thing for him to hold off
1:17:52
Speaker 2: until the game, huh?
1:17:53
Speaker 1: It's not going to happen. There's a full bar like
1:17:57
Speaker 1: 10 feet from where he's standing.
1:17:59
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
1:18:00
Speaker 1: He'll wander by it three more times, and that's just
1:18:02
Speaker 1: not going to end well.
1:18:03
Speaker 6: Fair enough.
1:18:03
Speaker 1: All right. We'll take a break. Come back. Corbin Smith
1:18:05
Speaker 1: joins us.
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1:18:51
Speaker 1: for the season along with Ricky Pearsall. So attrition already hitting.
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Speaker 1: Seahawks made a bunch of roster moves. We'll get into
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Speaker 1: that's what you call them. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Okay, good. I'm glad I got that right. I'm seeing
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Speaker 1: You don't usually see East Coast stuff here unless it's Pittsburgh,
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1:20:18
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1:20:20
Speaker 1: before to pump that up. Great stuff. We'll get to
1:20:22
Speaker 1: that a little bit later. Let's get right to the,
1:20:24
Speaker 1: I didn't talk about it in the headlines, let's get
1:20:25
Speaker 1: to the roster results. No D'Anthony Bell. A.J. Finley, Rodney Thomas,
1:20:30
Speaker 1: the safeties are elevated. Bayless Jones can be a return guy,
1:20:34
Speaker 1: kind of a swing guy out of the backfield as well.
1:20:37
Speaker 1: Also elevated off the practice squad. Bryce Cabledew had to
1:20:39
Speaker 1: be dropped because I think it was Thomas had to
1:20:42
Speaker 1: be signed off the 53 man. So some roster gymnastics
1:20:46
Speaker 1: and calisthenics going on there. Let's just kind of go
1:20:49
Speaker 1: through it. I think we all thought D'Anthony Bell might
1:20:51
Speaker 1: get bumped up, was going to get bumped up for
1:20:53
Speaker 1: the safety role with him and Warrior unlikely to play. Corbin,
1:20:56
Speaker 1: does this mean we're going to see maybe some Tyrese
1:20:59
Speaker 1: Knight in that role in the box?
1:21:01
Speaker 12: I think that has to be what they're doing at
1:21:03
Speaker 12: this point because, look, A.J. Finley and Rodney Thomas, those
1:21:07
Speaker 12: two are not box safeties. They're not going to be
1:21:11
Speaker 12: playing up near the line of scrimmage. Rodney Thomas is
1:21:13
Speaker 12: more of a rangy, free safety type.
1:21:16
Speaker 4: A.J.
1:21:17
Speaker 12: Finley checks more of that box as well. So Tyrese
1:21:20
Speaker 12: Knight has to be playing some snaps in this game.
1:21:23
Speaker 12: Because they're going to need to have that extra guy,
1:21:25
Speaker 12: the athletic edge that can also cover. They can do
1:21:28
Speaker 12: some of their mix and matching with their zone blitzes
1:21:31
Speaker 12: and things like that.
1:21:32
Speaker 1: What do they look like in the back end without
1:21:34
Speaker 1: Ty Okada then?
1:21:35
Speaker 12: Who slips into that role with Julian Love? I would
1:21:38
Speaker 12: think it's got to be Rodney Thomas.
1:21:39
Speaker 1: He's played more? He's played more. He's a two-year starter.
1:21:42
Speaker 1: I mean, A.J.
1:21:43
Speaker 9: Finley's played a lot, but it's been on special teams.
1:21:45
Speaker 3: Right.
1:21:46
Speaker 12: So, I mean, maybe Mike McDonald sees something there that
1:21:49
Speaker 12: he wants to use, but... Rodney Thomas is the one
1:21:51
Speaker 12: that has started games in the NFL, and he's played
1:21:54
Speaker 12: against New England several times.
1:21:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Rodney Thomas slips into an Okada role. Okada's
1:21:58
Speaker 1: out tonight. Let's go back to Knight for a second.
1:22:00
Speaker 1: We talked about it a lot in the preseason, and
1:22:02
Speaker 1: you guys talked about it on the podcast, we talked
1:22:03
Speaker 1: about it on the air. They thought, A, he had
1:22:06
Speaker 1: a terrific preseason, terrific training camp, Tyrese Knight, kind of
1:22:10
Speaker 1: taking those steps forward from when he was drafted in,
1:22:12
Speaker 1: what was it, the fourth round, I think it was,
1:22:14
Speaker 1: three years ago, and lost his starting spot as an
1:22:17
Speaker 1: inside linebacker last year to Drake Thomas, but It feels
1:22:21
Speaker 1: like he's taken those steps and they want to get
1:22:24
Speaker 1: him out there. So how do you envision what role
1:22:28
Speaker 1: maybe he would play?
1:22:30
Speaker 12: Look, I think that this is going to be his
1:22:34
Speaker 12: own version of a hybrid role. He's certainly not going
1:22:37
Speaker 12: to be playing slot corner like Nick Emanwari does. However,
1:22:41
Speaker 12: he rushed the passer as an edge at UTEP a lot.
1:22:45
Speaker 12: They used him there just as much as an off-ball linebacker,
1:22:48
Speaker 12: and I think that's why he's had the success he's
1:22:50
Speaker 12: had as a blitzer in the NFL. We saw the
1:22:52
Speaker 12: two forced fumbles against Arizona last year that DeMarcus Lawrence
1:22:55
Speaker 12: returned for touchdowns.
1:22:57
Speaker 9: He created both of those. So he's got pass rush ability.
1:23:00
Speaker 12: I think you're going to see them run some 4-3,
1:23:02
Speaker 12: that traditional base defense, but they're going to go into
1:23:05
Speaker 12: 5-2 looks where he is going to be draping the edge,
1:23:09
Speaker 12: and he's either going to be able to rush or
1:23:10
Speaker 12: they can drop him back, and they can do some
1:23:12
Speaker 12: different stuff exotically with what they're going to blitz with him.
1:23:15
Speaker 1: They also didn't elevate Diggs off the practice squad, so Witherspoon, Joe, Pritchett, Neal,
1:23:20
Speaker 1: and Avery Smith are the corners.
1:23:22
Speaker 12: Yeah, really no surprise there because of the safety issues.
1:23:25
Speaker 12: I figured it was going to be both safety positions. Pritchett,
1:23:28
Speaker 12: it seems like he had won that job, even with
1:23:30
Speaker 12: Trayvon Diggs being there. That does not mean that it's
1:23:33
Speaker 12: his for the entire season. This is a really big
1:23:36
Speaker 12: statement game for him. He's got to show that he's
1:23:39
Speaker 12: taken a big step forward from the last couple years
1:23:41
Speaker 12: where he's been so up and down when he's gotten
1:23:43
Speaker 12: chances to play.
1:23:44
Speaker 9: If he doesn't, then Trayvon Diggs is going to be
1:23:46
Speaker 9: ready for that opportunity.
1:23:47
Speaker 1: How concerned... Should the Seahawks be? How concerned do you
1:23:50
Speaker 1: think they are with the issues in the secondary in
1:23:54
Speaker 1: terms of injuries? For this game. For this game, I'd
1:23:59
Speaker 1: say three out of five.
1:24:00
Speaker 12: But I think from a long-term standpoint, I expect Nicky
1:24:04
Speaker 12: Muwari is going to play next week. I think he'd
1:24:06
Speaker 12: get another week of practice with him.
1:24:07
Speaker 1: You get the ten days off. Yeah, I think.
1:24:10
Speaker 12: He'll be out there for the Cardinals game in week two.
1:24:12
Speaker 12: And Okada, that's probably that ten-day window is going to
1:24:15
Speaker 12: help him too.
1:24:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an unfortunate thing there because he's been such
1:24:18
Speaker 1: a big part of what they do. Let me stay
1:24:20
Speaker 1: with that for a second because Mike McDonald, there are times–
1:24:26
Speaker 1: When injuries happen and when you have a defense that's
1:24:29
Speaker 1: very complicated, you do different things. You're like, okay, what's
1:24:31
Speaker 1: going to happen here? Who's going to fit that role?
1:24:33
Speaker 1: This is why Mike McDonald's Mike McDonald, right? This is, okay,
1:24:37
Speaker 1: here's the challenge. Here are the chess pieces. What do
1:24:40
Speaker 1: we do?
1:24:41
Speaker 7: This is.
1:24:42
Speaker 1: I don't want to say playing to his strength because
1:24:44
Speaker 1: he'd rather be at full strength, but this is playing
1:24:46
Speaker 1: to his strength, right?
1:24:47
Speaker 12: It is, but I think the difference here, last year
1:24:51
Speaker 12: they had Ty Akata waiting in the wings when they
1:24:53
Speaker 12: had the safety injuries. Now you don't have Kobe Bryant,
1:24:56
Speaker 12: you don't have Bud Clark for the season. Bud Clark
1:24:59
Speaker 12: would have been that guy today. Unfortunately, you're not going
1:25:01
Speaker 12: to have him for the rest of the year.
1:25:03
Speaker 1: So now that onus is going to fall.
1:25:05
Speaker 12: Luckily, you have a guy in Rodney Thomas that has
1:25:07
Speaker 12: started a lot of games in the NFL.
1:25:09
Speaker 1: That helps, but.
1:25:11
Speaker 12: But the next man up thing is going to get
1:25:13
Speaker 12: pushed a little bit more. Especially, you know, if they
1:25:15
Speaker 12: had something happen at corner. Julian Neal basically didn't play.
1:25:19
Speaker 12: I was just going.
1:25:20
Speaker 1: To ask you. Julian Neal is a guy that they
1:25:22
Speaker 1: thought highly enough of to draft him where they did.
1:25:25
Speaker 1: Guy that transferred from Fresno State, went to the SEC. And,
1:25:28
Speaker 1: you know, by all accounts, we were all excited to see.
1:25:30
Speaker 1: Never saw him. Like in the preseason, right? He's an
1:25:34
Speaker 1: unknown factor, too. Yeah, and Avery Smith just came over
1:25:37
Speaker 1: in the trade.
1:25:38
Speaker 12: Now, they got to watch him in the preseason in
1:25:40
Speaker 12: a pretty similar scheme, so they feel comfortable, but still,
1:25:44
Speaker 12: he just got here. You have nuances that Mike McDonald
1:25:47
Speaker 12: coaches up that are different. You don't want to get
1:25:49
Speaker 12: in a position where he's playing a bunch of snaps defensively, either.
1:25:52
Speaker 1: Well, now you've got A.J. Brown, though, in this team,
1:25:54
Speaker 1: so it's a little bit different team than we saw
1:25:56
Speaker 1: last year in the Super Bowl, right? So it's not
1:25:58
Speaker 1: that same team when we see these guys today. Let's
1:26:01
Speaker 1: go to the offensive side for a second. Because this
1:26:05
Speaker 1: is a whole different world now. We've got no Kenneth Walker,
1:26:08
Speaker 1: no Zach Charbonnet. Jadarian Price didn't play at all in
1:26:11
Speaker 1: the preseason. George Helani, Emmanuel Wilson, Jadarian Price, and now
1:26:15
Speaker 1: Bayless Jones. But I think Jones is probably more special teams.
1:26:17
Speaker 1: They're all there. So what are we doing? What are
1:26:19
Speaker 1: we doing in the running back position?
1:26:21
Speaker 12: Price is going to start this game. He's going to
1:26:23
Speaker 12: play a lot of the first and second downs. I'm
1:26:25
Speaker 12: expecting that Helani is going to get about the same
1:26:28
Speaker 12: workload with the third downs and the two-minute drills. And
1:26:31
Speaker 12: then in the short yardage situations... That's where you're going
1:26:34
Speaker 12: to see Emmanuel Wilson come in and get some opportunity.
1:26:36
Speaker 12: Maybe he'll play some first and second downs as a change,
1:26:38
Speaker 12: but I expect it's going to be mostly Price and
1:26:41
Speaker 12: Helani as long as they stay healthy.
1:26:44
Speaker 1: And the Price thing is a curious thing, too, because
1:26:46
Speaker 1: he hasn't played in the preseason. His last real carry
1:26:49
Speaker 1: was in November, I think. I don't think Notre Dame, well,
1:26:52
Speaker 1: they didn't play a bowl game. They weren't in the
1:26:54
Speaker 1: college football playoff, right? So his last real carry was
1:26:56
Speaker 1: in November. It's been a while.
1:26:59
Speaker 12: And look, that to me is the gamble they're taking.
1:27:03
Speaker 12: A lot of the veteran starters not playing.
1:27:05
Speaker 1: In the preseason, I don't have an issue with that.
1:27:08
Speaker 12: But a rookie, I understand he was dealing with the
1:27:11
Speaker 12: sore legs, and they're like, we don't really want to
1:27:12
Speaker 12: push it. But, man, you would have liked to see
1:27:15
Speaker 12: him get a little bit of sweat going in one
1:27:17
Speaker 12: of these games before getting thrown into a regular season match.
1:27:19
Speaker 12: When you've watched him in practice in person, what do
1:27:21
Speaker 12: you see? I see the same kid I saw at
1:27:24
Speaker 12: Notre Dame. I see a glider. Sean Alexander's the cop
1:27:28
Speaker 12: that I have. He isn't the same size, but he
1:27:30
Speaker 12: runs very similarly if And he's just a guy that's
1:27:33
Speaker 12: hard to line up. He's faster than you think he is,
1:27:36
Speaker 12: so you end up taking bad pursuit angles, really good vision.
1:27:40
Speaker 12: And he's a natural fit for this zone blocking where
1:27:44
Speaker 12: things are fluid and you have to be able to
1:27:45
Speaker 12: read your blocks. You've got to be patient, but you've
1:27:47
Speaker 12: also got to be decisive. He's got all that stuff
1:27:50
Speaker 12: working for him. It's just going to be how much
1:27:52
Speaker 12: faster the NFL is, how much quicker those holes close.
1:27:55
Speaker 12: When you haven't had game reps, that's going to be
1:27:59
Speaker 12: a little bit of a wake-up call potentially.
1:28:01
Speaker 9: For him early.
1:28:02
Speaker 1: And last I checked, probably a little bit of an
1:28:03
Speaker 1: elevated competition level from all due respect to Notre Dame
1:28:07
Speaker 1: and who they played. This is a little bit elevated.
1:28:10
Speaker 1: It's a little bit different in that regard, too. It
1:28:14
Speaker 1: was wild. We did a roundtable this morning on Chuck's
1:28:16
Speaker 1: show with Softie, Fane, myself, and Chuck Powell. And I
1:28:20
Speaker 1: came away thinking about this later. This is what's crazy.
1:28:24
Speaker 1: We spent an hour on the radio. We spent 30 seconds,
1:28:27
Speaker 1: if that, talking about the offensive line. How different is
1:28:30
Speaker 1: that than the past? How different is that?
1:28:33
Speaker 12: Well, they have the first time since 2003 to 2004
1:28:35
Speaker 12: that they have the same five starters returning from the
1:28:38
Speaker 12: previous season. It just happens to coincide with a... Super
1:28:42
Speaker 12: Bowl championship as well. So, look, the expectations are incredibly
1:28:47
Speaker 12: high for that group, and the question's going to be,
1:28:50
Speaker 12: are they going to be able to elevate their games
1:28:52
Speaker 12: to that, or is that going to be too much
1:28:55
Speaker 12: pressure on their shoulders, and maybe they have a hard
1:28:58
Speaker 12: time living up to this? I don't think that's going
1:29:01
Speaker 12: to be the case. I think this is going to
1:29:02
Speaker 12: be a really good offensive line, and I think John
1:29:05
Speaker 12: Benton's just an excellent coach, too.
1:29:07
Speaker 1: Let's talk about wide receivers. They got a guy by
1:29:10
Speaker 1: the name of JSN, pretty good player. He's known to
1:29:13
Speaker 1: make a few catches. Finally got a trophy that was
1:29:15
Speaker 1: right as the best in the league last year, in
1:29:18
Speaker 1: the conference, I should say. And one of the things
1:29:23
Speaker 1: that I see our fans are, I'm sorry, they're going
1:29:25
Speaker 1: hard all day. The wide receiver position with no Torrey Horton,
1:29:32
Speaker 1: assuming he doesn't play, I don't think he's going to play, right?
1:29:35
Speaker 12: That one is truly questionable to me. Eamon Worry is not.
1:29:41
Speaker 1: I could see a Horton suit.
1:29:42
Speaker 9: Now, Montori Foster's made it a little bit easier.
1:29:46
Speaker 12: If you feel like he's not quite ready, you can
1:29:48
Speaker 12: play Montori Foster, and Sam Darnold's got confidence in him,
1:29:52
Speaker 12: and he can play special teams.
1:29:54
Speaker 1: But that one's truly a 50-50 to me. So, Cooper Cup,
1:29:58
Speaker 1: more of a role this year, do you think?
1:30:00
Speaker 12: I could see him shocking some people and finding the
1:30:03
Speaker 12: fountain of youth a little bit. This version of the
1:30:06
Speaker 12: Shanahan offense, I see a lot of opportunities for him
1:30:11
Speaker 12: to potentially be able to get the football in his hands.
1:30:14
Speaker 9: And I just thought he had an excellent training camp
1:30:16
Speaker 9: as well.
1:30:18
Speaker 4: We'll see.
1:30:19
Speaker 12: It's going to be hard with so many good players,
1:30:21
Speaker 12: so many mouths to feed, and just one football.
1:30:24
Speaker 9: But I could see him getting 60 catches.
1:30:27
Speaker 1: I think one of the things, Corbin, that we're going
1:30:28
Speaker 1: to see more of, and I think you would agree
1:30:29
Speaker 1: with me on this, is that we're going to see
1:30:31
Speaker 1: more A.J. Barner. And here's another guy, Elijah Royal. Elijah Royal.
1:30:37
Speaker 12: I said this on our Seahawks Triple Option podcast last night.
1:30:40
Speaker 12: I picked Elijah Arroyo as my weekly offensive game wrecker candidate.
1:30:45
Speaker 12: And the reason I'm picking him, look, preseason darlings and
1:30:48
Speaker 12: training camp darlings, sometimes you have to be really careful
1:30:52
Speaker 12: with that. But this is not an undrafted guy. This
1:30:55
Speaker 12: is a second rounder, 250, runs like a deer, has
1:31:00
Speaker 12: Pillsbury dough hands, catches everything. I think this offense is
1:31:05
Speaker 12: perfect for him, and I just have a feeling he's
1:31:08
Speaker 12: going to benefit more from Brian Fleury than anyone else.
1:31:10
Speaker 1: That's the voice of Corbin Smith, and I think we
1:31:12
Speaker 1: should point out, he was really never healthy a lot.
1:31:14
Speaker 1: He kind of struggled through some nicks and bumps and
1:31:16
Speaker 1: bruises and things like that. We didn't see a healthier
1:31:19
Speaker 1: Royal last year, did we? Not after the halfway point
1:31:22
Speaker 1: of the season.
1:31:23
Speaker 12: He missed five or six games in a row, including
1:31:26
Speaker 12: the first two games of the playoffs with a knee issue.
1:31:29
Speaker 12: But there were flashes. Not a lot, but there were
1:31:31
Speaker 12: some flashes where you saw that ability. Training camp, he
1:31:34
Speaker 12: was incredible. Preseason, he was incredible. I just have a
1:31:37
Speaker 12: feeling that we're going to see a big jump.
1:31:39
Speaker 1: From Elijah Roy. Corbin, what about the guys on the
1:31:42
Speaker 1: other side? Different team than last year in the sense
1:31:44
Speaker 1: they added two receivers. I do have to kind of
1:31:48
Speaker 1: chuckle when I hear, oh, they added Romeo Dobbs. Who cares? Like,
1:31:51
Speaker 1: that's the definition of a Jag receiver, just a guy.
1:31:54
Speaker 1: The other guy, though, A.J. Brown is– A.J. Brown ain't
1:31:58
Speaker 1: a Jag. The other guy– now, we say that. The
1:32:00
Speaker 1: other guy, is he going to want to play? Is
1:32:05
Speaker 1: he going to read a book on the sideline? Is
1:32:06
Speaker 1: he going to do a journal? But if he wants
1:32:08
Speaker 1: to play, that's a hell of an added asset to
1:32:11
Speaker 1: Drake Mays.
1:32:12
Speaker 12: They didn't have a number one receiver last year. Stephon
1:32:15
Speaker 12: Diggs at this point in his career is a really
1:32:16
Speaker 12: good number two.
1:32:18
Speaker 1: They didn't have a number one on their team. If A.J.
1:32:20
Speaker 9: Brown's mind is right, which I think being.
1:32:22
Speaker 12: Back with Mike Vrabel is going to make that happen,
1:32:26
Speaker 12: if his mind is right, he's a top five talent
1:32:29
Speaker 12: at the receiver position. And he's just so big, so fast,
1:32:33
Speaker 12: and he's a real downfield. And he can make contested
1:32:36
Speaker 12: catches unlike his old Ole Miss.
1:32:37
Speaker 1: Teammate, D.K. Metcalf, that struggled with that. In his time here.
1:32:42
Speaker 12: Not trying to take shots, but A.J. Brown is a
1:32:45
Speaker 12: much better... He's just a more complete receiver.
1:32:47
Speaker 1: When he wants to be, his compete level's high.
1:32:49
Speaker 12: Oh, yeah.
1:32:50
Speaker 1: What about the other side of the ball for Vrabel's team?
1:32:53
Speaker 12: The one thing that jumps out to me, and we've seen...
1:32:56
Speaker 12: Quite frankly, I've not seen a lot of people talking
1:32:58
Speaker 12: about this. We certainly have on the podcast, but... Harold
1:33:02
Speaker 12: Landry being in the pup list to start the season.
1:33:05
Speaker 12: He is their best edge by a mile in terms
1:33:08
Speaker 12: of getting pressure on the quarterback. I look at the
1:33:11
Speaker 12: edges they have, and I'm like, where are they going
1:33:13
Speaker 12: to get pressure? Now, their interior is really good. Christian
1:33:17
Speaker 12: Barmore and Milton Williams are fantastic, and they gave Seattle's
1:33:21
Speaker 12: guards problems in that Super Bowl last February.
1:33:23
Speaker 1: But I just don't know where they're going to get the.
1:33:26
Speaker 12: Pressure from the outside, and that could mean they have
1:33:29
Speaker 12: to resort to being more blitz-heavy. And that's where those
1:33:32
Speaker 12: tight ends and running backs for Sam Darnold become a
1:33:36
Speaker 12: real factor.
1:33:37
Speaker 1: In this football game. Let me go touch base back
1:33:39
Speaker 1: on Drake May for a second. I've seen it said
1:33:43
Speaker 1: a lot. I don't know how accurate it is, but
1:33:46
Speaker 1: I've seen it said a lot. Well, you know, last
1:33:48
Speaker 1: year Drake May wasn't healthy. Will Campbell, the left tackle,
1:33:51
Speaker 1: wasn't healthy in the Super Bowl. I always kind of
1:33:54
Speaker 1: counter with, at that point in time in February, who is?
1:33:58
Speaker 1: But I don't know. Was that not the real Drake
1:34:00
Speaker 1: May that we saw?
1:34:02
Speaker 9: I think that what you saw was the real Mike McDonald.
1:34:05
Speaker 1: I think that's what you saw.
1:34:08
Speaker 12: I think you saw a head coach and a defensive
1:34:10
Speaker 12: mastermind in his bag.
1:34:12
Speaker 1: Now, will he be in that bag tonight?
1:34:15
Speaker 12: To an extent, he's going to have to be with
1:34:16
Speaker 12: some of the injuries that they have. And New England,
1:34:19
Speaker 12: I think the underrated move they made on offense, if
1:34:21
Speaker 12: the guy can stay healthy, Elijah Vera Tucker is a
1:34:25
Speaker 12: major upgrade for them at left guard.
1:34:27
Speaker 1: And it allowed him to move.
1:34:28
Speaker 12: Jared Wilson, who Riley Mills just made look like a
1:34:32
Speaker 12: peewee league player last year.
1:34:33
Speaker 9: In that Super Bowl. You move him to center, and
1:34:35
Speaker 9: that's his more natural spot.
1:34:37
Speaker 1: I think that makes their line better at both spots.
1:34:41
Speaker 1: We spent a lot of time talking about the things
1:34:42
Speaker 1: that Seattle doesn't have, Corbin, in terms of the injuries
1:34:45
Speaker 1: in the secondary and no Charbonnet and question marks at
1:34:48
Speaker 1: the depth at wide receiver and even running back without
1:34:50
Speaker 1: Charbonnet and the unknown that is Jadarian Price. One of
1:34:55
Speaker 1: the things I think has been overlooked by a lot
1:34:57
Speaker 1: of us this year In the training camp preseason, and
1:35:00
Speaker 1: preseason especially because they don't play. The depth up front on,
1:35:06
Speaker 1: and I'm going to include the outside linebackers if I can.
1:35:08
Speaker 1: I know they're not defensive linemen, but they're rush. They are.
1:35:12
Speaker 9: They're D linemen in this system.
1:35:14
Speaker 1: Williams, Murphy, Reed, Lawrence, Derrick Hall, Brandon Peely, Riley Mills,
1:35:20
Speaker 1: Mike Morris. You're going to have a hard time finding them.
1:35:24
Speaker 1: And Jenna. Jenna. Tyrese Knights is kind of listed to that,
1:35:28
Speaker 1: or Dante Fowler, that whole group.
1:35:32
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's as deep and talented of a defensive line
1:35:36
Speaker 12: as you're going to find in the NFL. Now, I
1:35:37
Speaker 12: do wonder at the edge spot, I've talked about this
1:35:40
Speaker 12: a lot, if they have a player or two that
1:35:44
Speaker 12: gets banged up there, I.
1:35:45
Speaker 1: Do worry about the drop-off after that point.
1:35:48
Speaker 12: D-line in the Interior, if you had a guy get
1:35:52
Speaker 12: banged up for a little bit, I think Riley Mills
1:35:54
Speaker 12: can be that guy now.
1:35:57
Speaker 1: I just think they have really good depth there at
1:35:59
Speaker 1: that spot.
1:36:00
Speaker 12: And I think there's still some potential Devin Eastern down
1:36:02
Speaker 12: the line could play for him.
1:36:03
Speaker 9: He missed the beginning of camp.
1:36:05
Speaker 1: He just didn't. He just didn't seem like.
1:36:07
Speaker 12: He was quite there yet, but they've got a lot
1:36:09
Speaker 12: of pieces there. It's as much depth and talent as
1:36:12
Speaker 12: you're going to find in the D-line.
1:36:13
Speaker 1: In the NFL. Last year we had Demarcus Lawrence come
1:36:16
Speaker 1: to Seattle, roll into town. People were saying he's done,
1:36:19
Speaker 1: it's over, he can't do much, and then we saw
1:36:21
Speaker 1: the season he had. Can Dante Fowler Jr., can he
1:36:24
Speaker 1: be that guy?
1:36:25
Speaker 12: You know, he is always, I call him a put
1:36:29
Speaker 12: a blindfold on and throw a dart player. And the
1:36:31
Speaker 12: reason I say that is you just don't know what
1:36:34
Speaker 12: you're going.
1:36:34
Speaker 1: To get in the sack production from him. It has
1:36:36
Speaker 1: been so up and down.
1:36:38
Speaker 12: You know there's ebbs and flows with pass rushers, but
1:36:41
Speaker 12: he's on the extreme with that. He had 10 sacks
1:36:44
Speaker 12: two years ago with Washington, and then last year he
1:36:47
Speaker 12: gets three. And then you look early in his career,
1:36:50
Speaker 12: he had a couple years with close to double digits
1:36:52
Speaker 12: right then he had a couple years where it's like
1:36:54
Speaker 12: oh he had two sacks this year you just you
1:36:56
Speaker 12: don't know what you're gonna get but i.
1:36:58
Speaker 9: Will say this he had better pass rushing numbers.
1:37:01
Speaker 1: Overall last year in terms of win rates.
1:37:03
Speaker 12: Than he did in washington when he had all those
1:37:05
Speaker 12: sacks so it's again sacks are not always the end
1:37:08
Speaker 12: all be all but that's what makes you money in
1:37:10
Speaker 12: this league Alright.
1:37:11
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the podcast. What do you got going on?
1:37:13
Speaker 1: You got Robert Turbin, you got our guy Rob Rang,
1:37:16
Speaker 1: and it's on the iHeart Network now. You're on the
1:37:18
Speaker 1: front page of the KJR website as well, and we'll
1:37:21
Speaker 1: get to Emerald City Spectrum in a second, but just
1:37:23
Speaker 1: tell folks about the podcast. Yeah, we're really fired up
1:37:25
Speaker 1: about this.
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Speaker 12: The ultimate mix of humor with football insight at all
1:37:31
Speaker 12: three levels. You got the beat reporter component, Super Bowl
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Speaker 12: champion player component, and then the scout Rob Rang component,
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Speaker 12: and the So we got every perspective you could possibly
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Speaker 12: ask for on our show. 45 minutes of Seahawks and
1:37:46
Speaker 12: X's and O's goodness. When can we find it? Yeah,
1:37:50
Speaker 12: it's up already. We've, we've done how many times a week,
1:37:52
Speaker 12: I should say five days. And, uh, we'll have some
1:37:54
Speaker 12: different lineups scattered in there. Um, uh, post game show
1:37:58
Speaker 12: is always just going to be me tonight. Uh, but
1:38:00
Speaker 12: we're going to have turbo at least three to four
1:38:02
Speaker 12: shows every week. And, uh, We'll have a few other
1:38:05
Speaker 12: former Seahawks that will be jumping on as guest hosts.
1:38:08
Speaker 1: Along the way. He may know a couple people. Yeah.
1:38:11
Speaker 1: He may know one. He may know a few. I
1:38:14
Speaker 1: know a few. I like it. Rob knows a few people.
1:38:18
Speaker 1: Emerald City Spectrum.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, EmeraldCitySpectrum.com. Just $ 6 a month, $ 60 a year. I'm
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Speaker 12: going to be doing.
1:38:25
Speaker 9: Something tonight that I have never done before, Ian.
1:38:28
Speaker 1: I'm going to be trying to write an article.
1:38:30
Speaker 12: During a game with my phone because my charger on
1:38:33
Speaker 12: my computer died today.
1:38:35
Speaker 1: That's not good.
1:38:35
Speaker 12: So unless somebody else can come and pinch hit and
1:38:38
Speaker 12: bring something in for me, I will be doing what
1:38:42
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Speaker 3: I love it.
1:38:47
Speaker 1: Hey, have a great time tonight. I'll try. That is
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1:38:53
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Speaker 3: Subscribe.
1:39:04
Speaker 1: Away you go. Great stuff. Have fun over there. We'll
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Speaker 1: talk to you next week. Sounds good, Ian.
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Speaker 6: Thanks.
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1:39:38
Speaker 1: Jimmy's on first. Seahawks, Patriots, 520 kickoff on NBC, Peacock,
1:39:45
Speaker 1: whatever else is NBC these days. I don't know. Netflix tomorrow,
1:39:50
Speaker 1: by the way, Anders.
1:39:51
Speaker 2: That'll be fun.
1:39:52
Speaker 1: Netflix tomorrow for the Rams and 49ers.
1:39:56
Speaker 2: It's like the one service I don't have.
1:39:58
Speaker 1: Is it? What? Yeah. The king of streaming? Nah. Nah.
1:40:03
Speaker 1: That's where you draw the line in the sand is Netflix?
1:40:06
Speaker 2: Absolutely. So what do you do?
1:40:08
Speaker 1: Just blow it off?
1:40:09
Speaker 2: Doesn't have anything I want. I'll find my ways to
1:40:12
Speaker 2: watch the game.
1:40:12
Speaker 1: All right.
1:40:14
Speaker 2: Whether that's, you know, some streams online or go into
1:40:18
Speaker 2: a local watering hole.
1:40:19
Speaker 1: Let's go. I think that's more of a problem than anything,
1:40:24
Speaker 1: to be honest with you. Yeah. Because a lot of
1:40:28
Speaker 1: people have the ability to do Prime and that type
1:40:33
Speaker 1: of thing. Because of the Thursday Night Football, a lot
1:40:35
Speaker 1: of places have Prime Video.
1:40:36
Speaker 7: Sure.
1:40:37
Speaker 2: You're talking restaurants now or bars and stuff like that?
1:40:39
Speaker 1: But Netflix? You don't have Netflix in a bar. I mean,
1:40:41
Speaker 1: what are you going to show? Hunting Wives or something? Which,
1:40:45
Speaker 1: by the way, is worth the price of your subscription.
1:40:48
Speaker 6: Yeah.
1:40:49
Speaker 12: Okay?
1:40:49
Speaker 1: I'm just going to tell you that right now.
1:40:51
Speaker 2: You sound like a Netflix connoisseur over there.
1:40:53
Speaker 3: I am.
1:40:54
Speaker 1: And I told you already. I'm telling you.
1:40:56
Speaker 2: Hunting Wives?
1:40:57
Speaker 1: Hunting Wives.
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Speaker 8: Yep.
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Speaker 1: All right. Yep.
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Speaker 6: Yep.
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Speaker 1: are they? There we go. Let's see. They should have
1:41:14
Speaker 1: run a ceremonial baton from T-Mobile to Lumen Field to
1:41:17
Speaker 1: symbolize one team season ending and one beginning.
1:41:19
Speaker 2: I love that, actually.
1:41:21
Speaker 1: That's actually good.
1:41:22
Speaker 3: They should totally do that. That's actually good.
1:41:23
Speaker 2: Any fans going to both games, just get a group
1:41:27
Speaker 2: together and do that.
1:41:30
Speaker 1: Run back and forth.
1:41:31
Speaker 2: 4-2-5.
1:41:32
Speaker 1: Just a reminder, the Mariners suck. Go Patriots. Wow.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
1:41:36
Speaker 1: Wow, wow, wow.
1:41:37
Speaker 2: I mean, the first part of that I agree with.
1:41:40
Speaker 3: Okay.
1:41:41
Speaker 2: Second part, not so much.
1:41:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. That's it. All right, what else we
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Speaker 1: got here?
1:41:50
Speaker 2: Montez absolutely molly whops a 470-foot home run last night. And,
1:41:55
Speaker 2: of course, it's not in the lineup today because he's
1:41:58
Speaker 2: a lefty and the Rangers are throwing a lefty. Give
1:42:01
Speaker 2: your head a shake, quote-unquote.
1:42:05
Speaker 1: Oh, boy. Seahawks team is largely grab-and-go as well, but
1:42:08
Speaker 1: not to level T-Mobile. Okay, I asked somebody about that earlier,
1:42:11
Speaker 1: so I'm glad to know.
1:42:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a while since you've been as a fan.
1:42:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Let's see.
1:42:17
Speaker 2: Jim in the 253. Randy Rosarena, free agent. Bring him back?
1:42:21
Speaker 2: I say no way. Time to make bank. And he
1:42:25
Speaker 2: lollygags out in the field when it comes to defense.
1:42:28
Speaker 2: Imagine when he gets a guaranteed contract, he'll be picking
1:42:31
Speaker 2: daisies out there instead of playing defense.
1:42:34
Speaker 1: Really? Okay. Somebody, 4206, what's in your glass? Ian, it
1:42:38
Speaker 1: sounds refreshing. Good, sir.
1:42:40
Speaker 2: It does, actually.
1:42:40
Speaker 1: It's water. I'll be honest with you. It's 100% water.
1:42:43
Speaker 3: Wow.
1:42:44
Speaker 1: It's water. Yeah, I'm that guy. I'm just kind of BML.
1:42:48
Speaker 1: Softy just tweeted this something, and he knows these things.
1:42:51
Speaker 1: He's Softy. I think I know where he got it from.
1:42:55
Speaker 1: It says, would be surprised if Jody Allen was on
1:42:57
Speaker 1: the flag tonight. Would have loved to have seen it,
1:42:59
Speaker 1: but another worthy person is rumored to be raising it. Hint,
1:43:03
Speaker 1: don't you ever talk about me. All caps.
1:43:05
Speaker 2: What is that?
1:43:05
Speaker 6: What?
1:43:06
Speaker 1: That's Sherman.
1:43:08
Speaker 6: Oh.
1:43:09
Speaker 1: Is Sherman going to raise the flag?
1:43:12
Speaker 2: Interesting.
1:43:13
Speaker 1: Oh, I see.
1:43:13
Speaker 2: It just makes too much sense to have Jody do it.
1:43:16
Speaker 2: I don't know why they're not doing that. I.
1:43:20
Speaker 1: Honestly, over the years, I stopped worrying, caring, or trying
1:43:24
Speaker 1: to rationalize who raises a 12th man flag.
1:43:27
Speaker 3: That's fair.
1:43:29
Speaker 1: I mean, they had Isaiah Kazavinsky do it one year.
1:43:31
Speaker 2: Maybe she doesn't want to. Who knows?
1:43:33
Speaker 1: You know what? That's actually a great point. She may
1:43:37
Speaker 1: not want to.
1:43:37
Speaker 12: Yeah.
1:43:39
Speaker 1: She may want to say, hey, it's time for the
1:43:40
Speaker 1: Coastal family to take over.
1:43:42
Speaker 6: Yeah.
1:43:42
Speaker 1: I could see that.
1:43:43
Speaker 6: Yeah.
1:43:44
Speaker 1: I could see that. Yeah. Yeah, that might be it.
1:43:48
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Speaker 6: 425.
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Speaker 1: Hunting Weiss, the first recommendation from Ian I've ever agreed with.
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Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to tell you this right now. I'm
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Speaker 1: all in on an NFL game this weekend that's going
1:45:36
Speaker 1: to take place back east in the city of brotherly love, sir.
1:45:41
Speaker 1: The city of brotherly love. You know where that is?
1:45:44
Speaker 1: That would be, of course, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The Seahawks, not
1:45:51
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, sorry. The Eagles are taking on the Commanders
1:45:54
Speaker 1: of Washington. Anders, is my line still four and a half?
1:46:00
Speaker 2: It is indeed, sir.
1:46:01
Speaker 1: Eagles are favored by four and a half in that game.
1:46:06
Speaker 1: I love that. All day, every day. Commanders coming off
1:46:09
Speaker 1: a disappointing season. A lot of people think they're going
1:46:10
Speaker 1: to bounce back this year. They may. But that's a
1:46:13
Speaker 1: tough place to go to start the season. Divisional opponent,
1:46:16
Speaker 1: a team that most believe is in that same conversation
1:46:21
Speaker 1: with Seattle and the Rams and the Niners, the Philadelphia Eagles.
1:46:25
Speaker 1: New offensive coordinator in Philadelphia, sir. His name is Sean Mannion.
1:46:30
Speaker 1: Does that name ring a bell?
1:46:31
Speaker 2: It does.
1:46:32
Speaker 1: Former Seahawk and Oregon State player. He is apparently wanting
1:46:36
Speaker 1: to get Jalen Hurts rolling around, moving around, and chucking
1:46:40
Speaker 1: it down the field a little bit more. A little
1:46:41
Speaker 1: more aggressive offense. Could lead to some mistakes. Could lead
1:46:45
Speaker 1: to some big plays. A.J. Brown is a good player.
1:46:47
Speaker 1: Great player, maybe. But he and Hurts were not on
1:46:51
Speaker 1: the same page, and that was a problem. That's gone.
1:46:54
Speaker 1: That's gone now.
1:46:55
Speaker 2: It's not like they didn't add talent either. Makai Lemon
1:46:57
Speaker 2: in the draft.
1:46:58
Speaker 1: And here's where the big thing comes in. They tell
1:47:04
Speaker 1: you that football is won at the line of scrimmage, sir.
1:47:06
Speaker 5: Yes.
1:47:08
Speaker 1: Well, there is a decided advantage on both sides. Offensive
1:47:11
Speaker 1: line for the Eagles is one of the best in
1:47:13
Speaker 1: the league. Their defensive line, I don't need to even
1:47:15
Speaker 1: express anything besides their defensive line.
1:47:18
Speaker 8: Period.
1:47:18
Speaker 1: End of story. They're very good.
1:47:19
Speaker 2: Very good.
1:47:21
Speaker 1: Four and a half. Eagles, minus 4.5.
1:47:24
Speaker 3: Fact, 4-9-4-5-1.
1:47:25
Speaker 1: If you disagree, fiction, 4-9-4-5-1. Sir, what are your thoughts?
1:47:32
Speaker 4: I love it.
1:47:33
Speaker 2: It was one of the games I was looking at yesterday,
1:47:35
Speaker 2: and it was probably the one that if I didn't
1:47:38
Speaker 2: take Detroit, I would have taken Philly here. I do
1:47:41
Speaker 2: think Washington might be better this year. It depends on
1:47:43
Speaker 2: if Jane Daniels is going to be healthy. But like
1:47:45
Speaker 2: you said, that's a tough landing spot. It's in Philadelphia.
1:47:49
Speaker 2: All they have to do is win by a touchdown,
1:47:50
Speaker 2: and you're good to go. So even if it's a
1:47:53
Speaker 2: relatively close game, and you're kind of just picking an
1:47:56
Speaker 2: Eagles victory here, a little bit more than that. But
1:48:00
Speaker 2: I like it. I like it a lot. I think
1:48:01
Speaker 2: the Eagles are going to be one of those really
1:48:02
Speaker 2: good teams. The NFC is just loaded, man.
1:48:05
Speaker 6: I don't know.
1:48:06
Speaker 3: It's like.
1:48:07
Speaker 2: Detroit's really good. Obviously, L.A. and Seattle are really good.
1:48:09
Speaker 2: I don't think San Francisco's really going anywhere. And then Eagles.
1:48:14
Speaker 2: There's a lot of really good teams, and they're one
1:48:15
Speaker 2: of them. So I think they start off with a
1:48:17
Speaker 2: win against the Commanders.
1:48:20
Speaker 1: Of Washington. I've seen some that say they don't like
1:48:22
Speaker 1: the spread. They think it's a little too much, a
1:48:24
Speaker 1: little too high. Listen, that's less than a touchdown, guys.
1:48:28
Speaker 2: Less than a touchdown.
1:48:29
Speaker 1: And until Jayden Daniels proves that he's back and healthy
1:48:36
Speaker 1: and not a little bit frail, which he is. Yes. Tiny.
1:48:41
Speaker 1: I'm all in. The commanders have added a couple pieces.
1:48:45
Speaker 1: Bobby's not there anymore. Bobby's nowhere right now, actually. I
1:48:49
Speaker 1: just can't see them hanging. I can't see them hanging.
1:48:52
Speaker 1: And I think it's going to be an easy Philadelphia win,
1:48:54
Speaker 1: minus 4.5. Eagles, minus 4.5.
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Speaker 1: four and a half over the Washington Commanders on Sunday.
1:49:47
Speaker 1: Fact 49451. If you disagree, it's Fiction 49451. But why
1:49:52
Speaker 1: the hell would you disagree with me? Well, based on
1:49:56
Speaker 1: my record. No comment. I'm going to miss you, buddy.
1:50:01
Speaker 1: I'm going to miss you. I'm going to miss you.
1:50:03
Speaker 1: Sarcasm and shots at Ian.
1:50:05
Speaker 2: That's okay.
1:50:06
Speaker 1: You'll still get that. Oh, I'm sure I will. I'm sure...
1:50:12
Speaker 1: I get it at home. I don't even need it
1:50:13
Speaker 1: from you, buddy. That is true.
1:50:14
Speaker 2: That is true.
1:50:14
Speaker 1: I don't need it from you at all.
1:50:15
Speaker 2: I can get it elsewhere.
1:50:16
Speaker 1: I can get that for free. You don't get that
1:50:18
Speaker 1: in the sports world, though. I can get that free
1:50:19
Speaker 1: of charge back at the Furness Pass. All right, one
1:50:22
Speaker 1: more time. Eagles minus four and a half. Fact over
1:50:24
Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders. If you agree, fact, 49451. If you disagree, fiction, 49451.
1:50:29
Speaker 1: You've got about eight or nine minutes left to text in,
1:50:31
Speaker 1: but don't delay. Do it right now. If you're listening
1:50:33
Speaker 1: on the app or online. Do it soon because you're
1:50:37
Speaker 1: always about 90 seconds behind, so don't delay. All right?
1:50:40
Speaker 1: That's just the reality of technology today. Until Anders fixes
1:50:44
Speaker 1: that and gets his AI figured out what else it's
1:50:45
Speaker 1: going to be, you're going to have a delay. Postal,
1:50:47
Speaker 1: help me out. The Coastal family. The analytics-driven Coastal family.
1:50:53
Speaker 1: How's Greg Bell doing with that? Anyway, well, Mr. Anti-Analytics
1:50:57
Speaker 1: came in all fired up about, oh, robot analytics.
1:51:00
Speaker 2: The mathematic model.
1:51:01
Speaker 1: Wow. I'm like, wait a second.
1:51:04
Speaker 4: Time out.
1:51:08
Speaker 1: Anyway, we'll take a break. Softy is here. He's been
1:51:10
Speaker 1: holding court. Oh, yeah. God, this guy's just a treat.
1:51:12
Speaker 1: He's on the phone. He's yelling at people. The king
1:51:15
Speaker 1: of Seattle sports is here. He'll join us next.
1:51:23
Speaker 10: All righty then.
1:51:25
Speaker 3: All righty then. All righty then.
1:51:28
Speaker 1: Here he is. He's back from the– Oh, boy. How
1:51:30
Speaker 1: were you over there at the news conference? Did you
1:51:31
Speaker 1: behave yourself?
1:51:33
Speaker 3: I think so.
1:51:33
Speaker 6: Okay.
1:51:34
Speaker 1: I think so. All right.
1:51:36
Speaker 3: We asked about the uniforms, and that apparently was a
1:51:39
Speaker 3: big hit. They're bringing back the white throwbacks in 2027.
1:51:42
Speaker 1: Okay.
1:51:43
Speaker 3: So that's cool.
1:51:44
Speaker 1: Okay.
1:51:44
Speaker 3: I think of the Seahawks at Dolphins in 83, wearing
1:51:48
Speaker 3: those old white unis from 42, 43 years ago. God,
1:51:52
Speaker 3: that was 43 years ago.
1:51:54
Speaker 1: What were you doing?
1:51:54
Speaker 3: Was that New Year's Eve, by the way, that game?
1:51:56
Speaker 3: December 31st of 83.
1:51:57
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think.
1:52:00
Speaker 3: I thought it was New Year's Eve. Look it up.
1:52:02
Speaker 1: I was still in high school. I can't even remember.
1:52:04
Speaker 3: Dude, I was in elementary school.
1:52:05
Speaker 1: Thanks a lot.
1:52:08
Speaker 3: Sometimes, Andrews, I forget how much older Ian is than
1:52:11
Speaker 3: the rest of us. He doesn't look like it. He
1:52:14
Speaker 3: doesn't act like it. But, man, sometimes.
1:52:16
Speaker 1: I'm five years older than Softie.
1:52:18
Speaker 3: That was December 31st, 1983, New Year's Eve.
1:52:22
Speaker 1: Wow.
1:52:23
Speaker 3: Seahawks beat the Dolphins.
1:52:24
Speaker 1: How the hell did you remember New Year's Eve?
1:52:26
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know.
1:52:27
Speaker 1: If I asked you something else, you wouldn't know anything.
1:52:29
Speaker 3: I can't remember.
1:52:30
Speaker 6: 100%.
1:52:30
Speaker 3: But you remember that. My wife will come home every day.
1:52:33
Speaker 3: And I usually get the same question. Yeah. And there's
1:52:36
Speaker 3: usually a snarky tone to it also.
1:52:38
Speaker 5: Yes.
1:52:39
Speaker 3: What did you do today?
1:52:40
Speaker 4: Right?
1:52:41
Speaker 3: I'll get that a lot from my wife. And I
1:52:43
Speaker 3: got to sit there for about a half a second.
1:52:45
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't remember. So now, and I keep
1:52:48
Speaker 3: telling her, I'm going to start writing down everything I do.
1:52:51
Speaker 3: I went and saw mom. I took the dogs for
1:52:53
Speaker 3: a walk. I went to the store. I did this.
1:52:55
Speaker 3: I did that. I did this. I did that. I
1:52:57
Speaker 3: can't remember what I did this morning, yet I can
1:53:00
Speaker 3: tell you what the day of that game was and everything. 83.
1:53:03
Speaker 4: It's a talent, man.
1:53:04
Speaker 1: It is a talent.
1:53:05
Speaker 3: It's a talent.
1:53:05
Speaker 1: What did you think of the Coastless?
1:53:07
Speaker 3: I thought they said all the right things. Okay. For sure.
1:53:09
Speaker 1: All right.
1:53:10
Speaker 3: I mean, let's face it, guys. It is really hard
1:53:11
Speaker 3: to lose a press conference. You've got to try really
1:53:14
Speaker 3: hard to lose a press conference. If you've got a
1:53:16
Speaker 3: good PR team behind you, you should be winning every
1:53:19
Speaker 3: press conference, especially your first one. They said all the
1:53:22
Speaker 3: right things, right? They talked a lot about it.
1:53:24
Speaker 1: Because we don't count the one in Atlanta, right?
1:53:26
Speaker 3: No, not really. I think this was the first one
1:53:28
Speaker 3: for the assembled media locally to get together. I mean,
1:53:31
Speaker 3: they said all the right things. You know, the basic
1:53:33
Speaker 3: thing I wanted to hear is them say, we are
1:53:36
Speaker 3: smart enough to know what we don't know. And that
1:53:38
Speaker 3: was Paul Allen's MO for 30 years and Jody Allen
1:53:41
Speaker 3: after that. And they all admitted that, you know. Leo
1:53:43
Speaker 3: Kosla talked about his relationship with John Schneider. And Mike McDonald,
1:53:47
Speaker 3: he says, look, I don't know anything about drafting safeties
1:53:50
Speaker 3: or evaluating offensive linemen.
1:53:51
Speaker 1: That's good.
1:53:52
Speaker 3: I want to learn from them, is what Neil Koslas said.
1:53:55
Speaker 3: You know, it was interesting, obviously, hearing Vinod and Neera
1:53:58
Speaker 3: talk about their passions outside of football, right, which is
1:54:02
Speaker 3: a lot of stuff that's way over my head.
1:54:04
Speaker 1: Are there some similarities, the Allen Institute and stuff?
1:54:07
Speaker 3: Potentially, yeah. AI and all that stuff. He's talking about
1:54:10
Speaker 3: Mach 5 planes and spaceships and rockets, and I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
1:54:15
Speaker 3: What's going on here? This is way over my head.
1:54:18
Speaker 3: So that was interesting stuff. But the biggest takeaway that
1:54:22
Speaker 3: I got from the entire press conference, and I talked
1:54:24
Speaker 3: to Neil for about seven or eight minutes. We're going
1:54:26
Speaker 3: to play that coming up at 4.30 today.
1:54:28
Speaker 4: Oh, nice, nice.
1:54:28
Speaker 3: I've been speculating and wondering on the air, is Neil
1:54:32
Speaker 3: Kosla eventually going to be the face of this thing, right?
1:54:36
Speaker 3: I mean, he's the youngest person at that table by
1:54:39
Speaker 3: 40 years, obviously. How old is he? He's 33.
1:54:41
Speaker 1: Okay.
1:54:41
Speaker 3: He confirmed that today. And I think the answer is
1:54:45
Speaker 3: unequivocally yes. Neal Kosla will eventually be the face of
1:54:49
Speaker 3: ownership in Seattle. Maybe not for a couple years, maybe
1:54:52
Speaker 3: not for five years, but he will be the guy
1:54:55
Speaker 3: that I think in 10, 15, 20 years from now,
1:54:58
Speaker 3: people will look at as... John Nordstrom, for example, or
1:55:02
Speaker 3: Paul Allen, right? I mean, that's going to be his gig.
1:55:05
Speaker 3: So I would get to know him as much as
1:55:07
Speaker 3: you can. It's going to be his deal. He's going
1:55:10
Speaker 3: to be the guy. He's going to be the CEO.
1:55:12
Speaker 3: He's going to be the chairman. And everything he said
1:55:14
Speaker 3: to me was great. You know, I mean, look, when
1:55:16
Speaker 3: it shows up one day and they have to replace
1:55:18
Speaker 3: John Schneider, and they have to replace Mike McDonald, or
1:55:22
Speaker 3: they need to add another 100 suites to Lumen Field.
1:55:26
Speaker 3: What happens then, right? Right now, it's all gravy. And
1:55:29
Speaker 3: if John Schneider hangs out here for a while, and
1:55:31
Speaker 3: McDonald hangs out here for a while, it's going to
1:55:34
Speaker 3: continue to be gravy. I'm really curious to know, Ian,
1:55:38
Speaker 3: when they make that first big move, when that first
1:55:41
Speaker 3: big decision has to be made, how do they handle it?
1:55:44
Speaker 3: Because we know what Paul Allen's track record was. Paul
1:55:47
Speaker 3: Allen's track record was, let's go hire Mike Holmgren. who
1:55:50
Speaker 3: already had won a title, and then let's give the
1:55:53
Speaker 3: job to Jim Mora, but then let's realize after a
1:55:56
Speaker 3: year that's not working, so let's whack that guy and
1:55:59
Speaker 3: go get Pete Carroll, right? And then Jody went out
1:56:02
Speaker 3: and got Mike McDonald. So that's three for four right there.
1:56:05
Speaker 3: That's a hell of a track record, man.
1:56:07
Speaker 1: My thought always with the Allens, with Paul Allen, was this,
1:56:10
Speaker 1: that because people say, well, they spend money.
1:56:12
Speaker 9: Right.
1:56:13
Speaker 1: Everyone in the NFL spends in a cap. Everybody spends money.
1:56:15
Speaker 1: So it's not those players' salaries. It's where do you
1:56:17
Speaker 1: spend it elsewhere.
1:56:18
Speaker 6: Right.
1:56:18
Speaker 1: And there's owners that would be reluctant to make a
1:56:21
Speaker 1: move if it costs them money. If a guy, like,
1:56:24
Speaker 1: do we fire Jim Mora? Like, Todd Laiweke tells a story.
1:56:27
Speaker 1: They had to go to Paul Allen and say, hey,
1:56:29
Speaker 1: we're going to pay this guy to go away. And
1:56:33
Speaker 1: that's where Paul Allen had his thought. No owner's perfect.
1:56:35
Speaker 1: You make your mistakes. Are you willing to own those
1:56:38
Speaker 1: mistakes and correct them?
1:56:39
Speaker 6: 100%.
1:56:39
Speaker 1: And that's where we're going to know these guys.
1:56:41
Speaker 3: Or do you want to compound mistakes and keep the
1:56:43
Speaker 3: wrong guy on the job because you're paying him money? So,
1:56:45
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of other minority investors that will,
1:56:48
Speaker 3: I'm sure, be a part of those conversations as well
1:56:50
Speaker 3: down the road. But, yeah, I mean, I was impressed
1:56:52
Speaker 3: by what I heard today. You know, I mean, they're
1:56:54
Speaker 3: very personable. The fact that they're willing to reach out
1:56:57
Speaker 3: to the fan base via social media and have that
1:56:59
Speaker 3: kind of connection with us I think is great. They're
1:57:02
Speaker 3: not going to live here. Not one of them will
1:57:04
Speaker 3: be moving here. They're all going to have a base here.
1:57:06
Speaker 1: Not even Neal?
1:57:07
Speaker 3: No, Neal's going to stay where he is, but they're
1:57:09
Speaker 3: not moving here. But that might be a good thing, right?
1:57:12
Speaker 3: Stay out of the way. Let the VMAC be the VMAC, right?
1:57:15
Speaker 3: Everything's fine right now. How often was Jody at the VMAC?
1:57:18
Speaker 3: How often was Paul at the VMAC, right?
1:57:20
Speaker 1: So my understanding with Jody was she met with John
1:57:23
Speaker 1: and And Mike, and before that, John and Pete, once
1:57:25
Speaker 1: a week.
1:57:26
Speaker 6: Right.
1:57:26
Speaker 1: But that was it, once a week. Right. And I
1:57:27
Speaker 1: don't know if it was in person or Zoom, but
1:57:29
Speaker 1: I know they met once a week. But that's it. Yeah, listen,
1:57:31
Speaker 1: if you have something that's working, hire good people and
1:57:34
Speaker 1: let them do their job. Simple as that.
1:57:35
Speaker 3: Right now, for me, it's just not anything to worry about.
1:57:38
Speaker 3: It's just not.
1:57:38
Speaker 1: How are you feeling?
1:57:40
Speaker 3: I'm good.
1:57:41
Speaker 1: I'm excited. How are we feeling about the game?
1:57:44
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be a low-scoring slap fest,
1:57:46
Speaker 3: like most week one games are. I told Dick on
1:57:48
Speaker 3: the air yesterday or two days ago, I think I
1:57:50
Speaker 3: said 19-16. Something like that. I think it's going to
1:57:52
Speaker 3: be an ugly, ugly game. But, you know, week one
1:57:55
Speaker 3: of the NFL was typically like that. I mean, go
1:57:57
Speaker 3: look at it. Guys, go look at the Seahawks-Niners game
1:57:59
Speaker 3: last year. Week one, it was gnarly.
1:58:00
Speaker 1: Nasty. Well, it could have been worse if Jake Moody
1:58:03
Speaker 1: wasn't kicking. Sure.
1:58:04
Speaker 3: Or, you know, you got that. What's the guy from Tungus, right?
1:58:07
Speaker 12: Tungus.
1:58:08
Speaker 3: AMPL.
1:58:08
Speaker 1: Tungus.
1:58:09
Speaker 3: Tungus.
1:58:09
Speaker 1: Touchdowns.
1:58:11
Speaker 3: I mean, Rick Wolin, remember the day he had your boy,
1:58:13
Speaker 3: Ape Lucas, giving up that sack fumble to Sam Darnold?
1:58:16
Speaker 3: I mean, that was a gnarly game. So, I think
1:58:18
Speaker 3: you'll see something similar to that tonight. I will say this.
1:58:21
Speaker 3: If the Seahawks go out tonight and do to the
1:58:23
Speaker 3: Patriots what they did in the Super Bowl, I think
1:58:26
Speaker 3: a lot of people around the NFL are going to
1:58:27
Speaker 3: be going, whoa, right?
1:58:28
Speaker 6: Wait.
1:58:29
Speaker 3: Whoa. Number one, Drake may not be as good as
1:58:32
Speaker 3: we thought he was, and whoa, that team may not
1:58:36
Speaker 3: win two in a row. They might win three in
1:58:37
Speaker 3: a row.
1:58:38
Speaker 1: Remember, he was hurt last year, Dave.
1:58:39
Speaker 3: Yeah.
1:58:39
Speaker 1: So was Will Campbell.
1:58:40
Speaker 6: Yeah.
1:58:40
Speaker 5: God.
1:58:41
Speaker 4: God.
1:58:42
Speaker 1: Actually, so was Nick even worried about by checking. He
1:58:44
Speaker 1: played 70 snaps.
1:58:45
Speaker 4: All right.
1:58:45
Speaker 3: That's right.
1:58:46
Speaker 1: What do you got coming up?
1:58:47
Speaker 3: We got a lot coming up. Kurt Warner with a K,
1:58:49
Speaker 3: two-time NFL MVP in town with Kevin Harlan for the
1:58:51
Speaker 3: game tonight. They'll join us at 320. Factor Fiction pick
1:58:56
Speaker 3: at 335. Hugh Millen at four. Kevin Harlan joins at five.
1:58:59
Speaker 3: He's calling the game tonight. He's calling the game tonight
1:59:01
Speaker 3: for National Radio. We got both the color guy and
1:59:04
Speaker 3: the play-by-play guy. And then Neil Koshla, again, the new owner.
1:59:09
Speaker 3: one-third of the new ownership group of the Seahawks. He
1:59:12
Speaker 3: will join us. I had a conversation with him around
1:59:14
Speaker 3: 4.30 today. You'll hear from him coming up this afternoon.
1:59:18
Speaker 1: That's a big show.
1:59:19
Speaker 4: It is a big show.
1:59:20
Speaker 1: You know what? Super Bowl champions. Just this one day.
1:59:23
Speaker 3: Just today. Tomorrow's going to be mediocre.
1:59:25
Speaker 1: Back to normal tomorrow?
1:59:26
Speaker 3: Back to normal, yes. Tomorrow we'll have nothing to offer.
1:59:28
Speaker 1: Take care.
1:59:28
Speaker 12: Bye.
1:59:29
Speaker 1: For the mild-mannered and marginally objectionable Ian Furness, this is
1:59:33
Speaker 1: Paddle Day saying so long, everyone.