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Sky News Journalist Matt Cunningham delves deeper into the resignation of the CLP President which comes following party’s decision to oppose an Indigenous Voice to Parliament · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: As we've heard, CLP President Lawson Broad has quit the
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  Speaker 1: party over the party's decision to oppose an Aboriginal and
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  Speaker 1: torres straight Islander voice to Parliament. Now, mister Broad told
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  Speaker 1: sky News that he had resigned from his position and
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  Speaker 1: well given up his COLP membership after the party passed
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  Speaker 1: a resolution last month to oppose the Voice. Joining me
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  Speaker 1: on the line is the person who broke this story,
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  Speaker 1: Matt Cunningham from Sky News. Good morning to you, Matt,
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  Speaker 1: gooday will be How are you not too bad? Matt?
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  Speaker 1: Tell us what exactly has happened here?
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  Speaker 2: Well, we know the last month the COLP passed that
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  Speaker 2: resolution to formally oppose the Voice to Parliament. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: there were several branches that put forward motions saying that
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  Speaker 2: the CLB should oppose the voice, and they did pass
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  Speaker 2: that resolution at Central Council. Monk Now, as a consequence
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  Speaker 2: of that, All abroad has told me that he has
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  Speaker 2: resigned from not only his position as President of the COLP,
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  Speaker 2: but he's resigned from the party all together.
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  Speaker 3: It says that he can't reconcile that position that was
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  Speaker 3: passed by the parliament by the COLP at the Central
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  Speaker 3: Parliament at Central.
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  Speaker 2: Council meeting, sorry O Katie last month with his own
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  Speaker 2: personal views. He says in that statement his personal views
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  Speaker 2: that these positions passed bay the c P last month
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  Speaker 2: are offensive to a large number of Aboriginal people in
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  Speaker 2: the Northern Territory and the population more generally. They seek
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  Speaker 2: to undermine decades of successive and evolving efforts on both
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  Speaker 2: sides of politics to empower Aboriginal people and communities through
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  Speaker 2: recognition of language, culture and law. By their nature, they
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  Speaker 2: have the potential to furthering trench Aboriginal disadvantage and they
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  Speaker 2: create opportunity to be interpreted as racist.
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  Speaker 1: Well so, Matt, I mean, is this really going to
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  Speaker 1: send the party into a state of disarray or what's
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  Speaker 1: it going to mean for the CLP from your perspective,
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  Speaker 1: we are I mean, we're just days out from a
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  Speaker 1: by election. Let's not forget for our referra.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the time is not great. You'd have to say,
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  Speaker 2: look to see the CLP is being divided over this issue, Katie.
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  Speaker 2: You know, even after that resolution was passed last month,
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  Speaker 2: the CLP leader here in the nt Leaf and Achiaro
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  Speaker 2: and other members of the parliamentary wing were saying that
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  Speaker 2: they were still supporting the Voice. They say they want
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  Speaker 2: more details on this issue. I think it is it
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  Speaker 2: is giving a bit of a gift to the Labor
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  Speaker 2: Party though, I mean, you talk about that are if
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  Speaker 2: you're a by election been five days away, I think
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  Speaker 2: you can debt. You know, we don't have build a
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  Speaker 2: landhouse a strong supporter of the Voice to Parliament, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure that the Labor Party will have its offer.
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  Speaker 2: It is out in the bush on the TeV Island
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  Speaker 2: and in Manning Greta using this issue to push its
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  Speaker 2: case against the COLP. I've spoken to other people within
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  Speaker 2: the CLP who've had concerns that it could be a
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  Speaker 2: costly issue for them or a difficult issue, and seeks
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  Speaker 2: like Mamatura and Barclays family hold by a handful of votes.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, whatever your position on the Voice, I
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  Speaker 2: think it's pretty clear the CLP got itself into a
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  Speaker 2: bit of a mess of the tone making on this issue.
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  Speaker 1: Matt, we did just ask the Chief ministeron Natasha Files
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  Speaker 1: about this situation. She says that leofan Occhiaro's position is untenable.
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  Speaker 1: I guess you'd expect her to say that given that
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  Speaker 1: it is the opposition. But it's certainly an interesting situation
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  Speaker 1: that the opposition leader Leof and Ochiro now finds herself in.
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  Speaker 2: It is and I'm sure it's a position she'd rather
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  Speaker 2: not be in the first way. And there's a bit
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  Speaker 2: it is going on in the Federal Parliament as well.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the Nationals have taken a position opposing the voice.
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  Speaker 2: The Liberal Party and the Opposition leader Peter Dutton are
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  Speaker 2: still taking the same position that Leschiaro is taking at
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  Speaker 2: the moment, which is to say that look, we're not
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  Speaker 2: opposed to this necessarily, but we won't be more detail,
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  Speaker 2: but it's clear that there are divisions within the Conservative
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  Speaker 2: side of politics over this issue. Yeah, I was interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Natasha pav said a similar thing at a press conference
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  Speaker 2: she held this morning. Katie, if he actually certainly gets
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  Speaker 2: an extra spring in a step when you gets a
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  Speaker 2: chance across at the CLP Loo, Look, is it going
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  Speaker 2: to have an impact in the ARA if you're a
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  Speaker 2: by election. I don't know, but the timing is not
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  Speaker 2: great today. It's going to be an interesting by election
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  Speaker 2: this weekend. There's some pretty interesting comments from Ralph garrettson
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  Speaker 2: you in the nteen years this morning as well about
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  Speaker 2: that by election, and he's saying later it would be
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  Speaker 2: in a bit of trouble. Is he's saying that there'll
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  Speaker 2: be a record load turnout at this by election because
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  Speaker 2: of both the weather and the fact that it's a
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  Speaker 2: bio election. Well, it's going to be an interesting one
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  Speaker 2: to watch. There's a lot of stake for both leaders.
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  Speaker 2: I think I think both Patasha files Alys and Offiro
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  Speaker 2: won't have a very a very fun Monday if they
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  Speaker 2: lose that by election on the weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're spot on, and we are going
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  Speaker 1: to catch up with Professor Rolph Gerretts and this morning
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  Speaker 1: just after ten o'clock and speak a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: about that. I think what will also be interesting is
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  Speaker 1: my understanding is that Mann and Greta often well, I
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  Speaker 1: believe at the last but the last election had quite
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  Speaker 1: a low voter turnout, and that is of course where
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  Speaker 1: the ALP's candidate is from. Not one hundred percent sure
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  Speaker 1: you know in terms of the CLP, whether they're expecting
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  Speaker 1: a high voter turnout then on the Tiwei Islands or
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  Speaker 1: exactly what's going to go on. But Matt, it's always
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  Speaker 1: a bit hard to tell. Isn't it when you talk
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  Speaker 1: about those Bush seats.
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  Speaker 2: It certainly is I any other issue though with laph
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  Speaker 2: and Broad's resignation, I think Katie is the other interesting factor.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you go back to twenty twelve when there
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  Speaker 2: was the Bush revolved against the Labor Party and picked
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  Speaker 2: up all of those Bush seats, including Arrafura. You know,
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  Speaker 2: one of the key architects of that wing was Lawson Board.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he has a song relationship with Aboriginal people
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  Speaker 2: in the Bush. He's very close to yingy of Yueler
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  Speaker 2: as well and helped run that campaign by yinge of
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  Speaker 2: Euler and Ian Gumblow who almost won the seat of
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  Speaker 2: Arnhem from Labor at the last election. So you know,
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  Speaker 2: they probably lose a key strategist when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: Bush with Lawson Board resigning from the party. I mean
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  Speaker 2: a difficult thing to work out sometimes how people in
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  Speaker 2: the Bush vote and what causes them to vote one
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  Speaker 2: way or an up or another. But laws have certainly
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  Speaker 2: someone who I think has had the ability over a
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  Speaker 2: long time to really know how to campaign in the Bush.
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  Speaker 1: Matt any idea who is now going to step in
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  Speaker 1: in that president's role? Do we have any idea at
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  Speaker 1: this point, I couldn't tell.
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  Speaker 2: You, to be honest, Katie. That's the matter that the
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  Speaker 2: CLP is going to have to deal with now. I
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  Speaker 2: haven't had any discussion with anyone about who the new
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  Speaker 2: president might be, but obviously on the lookout for one. Now.
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  Speaker 1: It is very interesting times. And you know, just when
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  Speaker 1: you sort of think that the CLP is on their
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  Speaker 1: road to recovery after what had been tumultuous few years
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  Speaker 1: for them, you know there's another own goal.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a bit of a challenge ahead of them now,
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  Speaker 2: no doubt, Katie. An interesting timing as well. So all
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  Speaker 2: eyes on Saturday in this violence.
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  Speaker 1: I reckon. So it'll be.
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  Speaker 2: They taking the right the wrong one.
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  Speaker 1: It'll be interesting times, indeed, Matt Cunningham, always good to
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  Speaker 1: catch up with you, mate, Thanks so much for your
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  Speaker 1: time this morning. Thank you.