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Turning All Three Chairs Is Only The Beginning For Mikenly Brown From NBC's The Voice · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 1: May I wear them for at least ten minutes?
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  Speaker 2: Please? May I? Do you do? Do people want to
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  Speaker 2: do that? They come to you? Can I please wear
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  Speaker 2: your glasses? Please? Can I?
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  Speaker 3: Some people do?
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: Where did you get those? Because I grew up hating glasses.
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  Speaker 1: But now when I've got something that where you can
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  Speaker 1: get so many different styles anymore that aren't gonna cost
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  Speaker 1: you like six bank accounts, Oh my god.
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  Speaker 4: I alas.
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  Speaker 3: I have real glasses actually that I use in their prescription.
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  Speaker 3: But a lot of my glasses I'm not like I
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  Speaker 3: can see mainly unless it's like I'm reading, and so
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  Speaker 3: most of my glasses are fake.
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  Speaker 4: But I get.
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  Speaker 3: Them on Sheen or Timu funny enough because they are
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  Speaker 3: so cheap, Like you can get like a five pack
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  Speaker 3: of glasses for like three bucks, and so.
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  Speaker 4: I just I go to Sheene.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes I find them at places like TJ Max or
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  Speaker 3: Target and random places like that, but usually I get
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  Speaker 3: them off Sheene.
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  Speaker 4: These ones are from Chine.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't it odd, how though, that we've lived in a
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  Speaker 1: society nowadays that people will they start judging the book
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  Speaker 1: by its cover only because they rate our glasses that
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  Speaker 1: we're wearing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of people tell me these look like
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  Speaker 3: minion glasses. I've actually got made fun of a lot
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  Speaker 3: for wearing these.
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  Speaker 4: Of course I don't care, but yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's so funny you say minions because in reality, my heart,
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  Speaker 1: because I've been reading so much about Artemis too, I
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  Speaker 1: thought she needs to be on Artemis two right now.
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  Speaker 1: She looks like she should be up in space, and
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  Speaker 1: that she's up there and she's looking at the dark
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  Speaker 1: side of the moon, whereas Pink Floyd sang about the
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  Speaker 1: dark side of the moon. But nobody went to the
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  Speaker 1: dark side of the moon until Artemis two was there.
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  Speaker 1: And here you are. You've been there because you've got
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  Speaker 1: the glasses to.
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  Speaker 2: Show it absolutely musically.
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  Speaker 1: When did you discover that that was that's going to
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  Speaker 1: have to come out? Because so many people have music
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  Speaker 1: trapped inside of them and they won't let it go.
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  Speaker 1: But you've allowed it to be free for everybody else
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  Speaker 1: to tap into.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. So I think.
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  Speaker 3: Music has always been a part of my life, even
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  Speaker 3: before I was born. Music was super deep in my
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  Speaker 3: family's roots. My great grandpa, his name was Thomas Fletcher,
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  Speaker 3: passed away a few years ago, but he played bass
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  Speaker 3: and sang with Loretta Lynn and Conway Twitty and Joddy
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  Speaker 3: West and a bunch of other people. I think I
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  Speaker 3: at one point he dressed Johnny Cash when Annie Cash
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  Speaker 3: was drunk behind stage somewhere. But he Yeah, So he
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  Speaker 3: did music for a long time, and I think somebody
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  Speaker 3: asked him to go on tour with him and he
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  Speaker 3: had to decline because he had thirteen kids at home
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  Speaker 3: that he had to take care of. And so, but
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  Speaker 3: a lot of those thirteen kids sing as well. So
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  Speaker 3: a lot of my aunts sing, so I sing with
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  Speaker 3: a lot of them. My mother sings, my dad sings.
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  Speaker 3: He's sitting right here with me. He's also my guitar
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  Speaker 3: player and my manager, Dadger. He's literally at all of
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  Speaker 3: the roles.
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  Speaker 4: But he's great.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I've I've had music in my family forever.
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  Speaker 3: My siblings sing too. Me and my parents have sang
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  Speaker 3: on my church worship team. My grandma sang on her
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  Speaker 3: worship team.
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  Speaker 4: And yeah, I.
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  Speaker 3: Think I really as soon as I could uh speak,
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  Speaker 3: I was singing, but I didn't start singing really four people.
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  Speaker 3: The first time I ever sang for my parents, I
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  Speaker 3: was eight years old, and I sang the Story of
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  Speaker 3: My Life by One Direction because my best friend was
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  Speaker 3: there and she had she was one of the only
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  Speaker 3: people who had heard me sing, and so we'd sit
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  Speaker 3: in my room and you'd be.
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  Speaker 4: Like, can need to sing for everyone? You're so good,
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  Speaker 4: You're so good.
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  Speaker 3: So we were doing karaoke one night and she was like,
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  Speaker 3: you have to sing the song, and I sat down
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  Speaker 3: and I sang it, and my parents were like, oh
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  Speaker 3: my gosh. My dad whipped out his bitar so fast,
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  Speaker 3: and we started.
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  Speaker 4: We started singing in really. Ever since then, I've loved
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  Speaker 4: it and knew I wanted to do it.
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  Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with McKinley Brown coming
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  Speaker 1: up next. NBC's The Voice We are back with McKinley
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  Speaker 1: Brown for your father with thirteen in the family, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: because I came from a family of eight, I'm jealous
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  Speaker 1: of you because nobody but me was the only musical
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  Speaker 1: one in the family. So therefore it was like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to be a solo performer. I want to
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  Speaker 1: sing with my mom. I want to sing where everybody
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  Speaker 1: else is doing that, because that's what they were doing
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  Speaker 1: on the Partrees Family.
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  Speaker 2: So what about your father? Was it?
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  Speaker 1: Is this a show like the Partrige Family or the
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  Speaker 1: councils that inspire them to be so musical?
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  Speaker 3: So actually it was my this is my mom's grandpa, Wow,
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  Speaker 3: who is super musical?
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  Speaker 4: Is you do your family? Does your family sing? Your parents?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? His, his parents don't sing, so he's he's the
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  Speaker 3: only one from his side of the family that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I mean, because I mean, it's a cold,
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  Speaker 1: hard feeling when when when it's like, Okay, I'm alone
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  Speaker 1: in this house and everybody else isn't doing the music,
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  Speaker 1: and that's all I want to think about right now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yep, yep for sure. And I mean he's
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  Speaker 3: he's so talented. He plays guitar. I can show him
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  Speaker 3: a song in the two seconds he pretty much thing
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  Speaker 3: he played.
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  Speaker 4: How many how many other instruments do you play? Like five? Five?
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  Speaker 3: You can play five different instruments. He can sing, he sings,
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  Speaker 3: gonna be on stage. He's the best, really is you know?
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  Speaker 1: And and all, oh my god, because right away I'm
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  Speaker 1: having flashback of Doug kershawf from the Country World of
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  Speaker 1: Music as well as Loretto Land. When those musicians came
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  Speaker 1: up under those stages, they didn't come up there with
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  Speaker 1: just a banjo in their hand. They had they had
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  Speaker 1: several Well, even Barbara Mandrel would prove that you have
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  Speaker 1: to have many, many, many instruments underneath your belt when
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  Speaker 1: you perform in front of the masses.
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  Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta love where worship music is growing these days.
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  Speaker 1: It's no longer the opening band that people are going
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  Speaker 1: there and we I mean because I mean they had elevation.
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  Speaker 1: We can go thirty five to forty minutes before that
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  Speaker 1: preacher man steps up there, and it's because we want
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  Speaker 1: we want our elevation.
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  Speaker 3: Worship band mm hmm yep, yeah for sure, I mean
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  Speaker 3: our turns is the same way.
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  Speaker 4: Growing up, we everyone knew coming.
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  Speaker 3: Into church, our worship was like could go on for
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  Speaker 3: two hours.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it totally sets up the tone. But let me
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  Speaker 1: ask you a question that a lot of people don't understand.
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  Speaker 1: When when you're performing with the worship music at the church,
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  Speaker 1: do you sit down with the preacher and he says, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: this is gonna be my message this week. I need
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  Speaker 1: songs that are going to get them ready for me?
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  Speaker 1: Do you work one on one like that? Because I've
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  Speaker 1: never been involved in the political side of the church world.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I don't really think we've ever done that.
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  Speaker 4: I mean we have.
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  Speaker 3: My mom actually a lot of the times is the
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  Speaker 3: person who selects the songs and somehow, I mean really,
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  Speaker 3: I mean this is kind of a God thing, but
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  Speaker 3: I feel like the songs really always pretty much lead
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  Speaker 3: into the message without you know, really having to communicate that,
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  Speaker 3: which is cool in itself. But yeah, I've been really
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  Speaker 3: lucky to have a really good worship team at our church.
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  Speaker 3: One of the guys, me and Dad aren't on the
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  Speaker 3: worship team anymore because we travel so much doing music
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  Speaker 3: as well, but my mom's still on the team. And
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  Speaker 3: then my bass player actually also is on the team.
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  Speaker 4: The worship team at our church, and.
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  Speaker 3: He plays with us and plays our gigs and he's
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  Speaker 3: great too, so we have Yeah, our church worship team
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  Speaker 3: really did a lot for me at least, and I
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  Speaker 3: was around people who are talented and not only just singers,
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  Speaker 3: but also musicians and instrumentalists.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, it was great being on the worship team.
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  Speaker 1: That moment when people you spot them from the stage
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  Speaker 1: and you can see that they're singing along with you.
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  Speaker 1: How do you explain that to an up and coming
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  Speaker 1: musician who's standing there in their bedroom going one day
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  Speaker 1: one day and you're living it. How do you explain
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  Speaker 1: to them they're going to sing your songs. You've just
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  Speaker 1: got to have patience.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this is a good question.
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  Speaker 3: I I mean, it's definitely one of the best feelings
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  Speaker 3: in the entire world.
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  Speaker 4: The first gig I ever did.
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  Speaker 3: Was three years ago and it was in the tiniest
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  Speaker 3: little paint shop.
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  Speaker 4: And there was not very many people there.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, granted it was my first gig, but you know,
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  Speaker 3: my friends and my family came out to sport and
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  Speaker 3: I have a pretty big family, so I mean there
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  Speaker 3: was a good.
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  Speaker 4: Amount of people there.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I even then at that point, just doing
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  Speaker 3: cover songs and having people even sing a song that
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  Speaker 3: isn't mine, but sing along with me and.
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  Speaker 4: Enjoy what I am.
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  Speaker 3: I don't really want to say giving to them, but
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  Speaker 3: I mean kind of, because yeah, I mean it is
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  Speaker 3: my form of art, and I mean really sometimes even
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  Speaker 3: music is my form of love.
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  Speaker 4: And so being able to.
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  Speaker 3: Sing for people and then them sing with me, they're
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  Speaker 3: kind of, you know, doing something for me as well,
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  Speaker 3: not just me doing something for them. So yeah, it's
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  Speaker 3: it's a great feeling. Honestly, I can't even describe it.
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  Speaker 3: I would say anyone who's thinking about doing this industry,
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  Speaker 3: I would I would say it's hard, but it's worth it,
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  Speaker 3: and if you want to do it. I always tell
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  Speaker 3: people you have to be crazy enough to believe in
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  Speaker 3: yourself that you can because regardless, I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 3: thousands of people might be hating on you and telling you,
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  Speaker 3: telling you that you suck, but there's a whole bunch
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  Speaker 3: of other people in the world that might feel the
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  Speaker 3: complete opposite of that, And you can't listen to the
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  Speaker 3: people who are telling you you can't do it and
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  Speaker 3: you're not going to make it and that you suck
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  Speaker 3: or I mean, you're not going to if you.
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  Speaker 4: Listen to that.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, be crazy enough to believe in yourself, and
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  Speaker 3: it's worth it for sure.
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  Speaker 1: I love where your hard is because you know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: always asking Alexa from Amazon. I'll sit there and I'll
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  Speaker 1: say I think I'm being conceited today, Alexa, and then
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  Speaker 1: and by the time the conversation is over with a
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  Speaker 1: digital device, she's got me convinced that it's not concede
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  Speaker 1: it's confidence and creative people have got to gain confidence.
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  Speaker 2: And there's nothing wrong with having confidence. You'll know when
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  Speaker 2: you're being conceded. How do you deal with that when
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  Speaker 2: it's so borderlined like that?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think I think that part is definitely hard.
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  Speaker 3: But I also think, and maybe not always, but I
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  Speaker 3: think people who are conceited or cocky in that sort
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  Speaker 3: of way really deeply are insecure and don't really like
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  Speaker 3: who they are and want to present themselves differently so
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  Speaker 3: people don't feel that way about them, and so it
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  Speaker 3: obviously comes out wrong and can hurt people, and you
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  Speaker 3: can be labeled as conceded.
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  Speaker 4: But I think really I've I've leaned both ways.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like at some points I've been really insecure
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  Speaker 3: and really sad about who I am and just not
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  Speaker 3: like myself. And I've been sad about it publicly, and
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  Speaker 3: then I've also wanted to hide it, and I've acted
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  Speaker 3: like I have it all together and i act like
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  Speaker 3: I know what I'm doing and I've acted like I'm perfect,
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  Speaker 3: and really neither of those are true.
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  Speaker 4: And I think over the years.
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  Speaker 3: With going through what I went through with anirexis something
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  Speaker 3: really like clicked in my brain after all of that,
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  Speaker 3: and it just made me feel like, Okay, I really
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  Speaker 3: got to figure out who I am so that I
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  Speaker 3: can you know, I can stand on this and I
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  Speaker 3: can stand in this, and I can get where I'm
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  Speaker 3: going and healthily and really enjoy the process of where
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  Speaker 3: I'm going and not just you know, want to continuously
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  Speaker 3: want to be at the next step or at the
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  Speaker 3: next spot, and sometimes even that's hard. But I think
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  Speaker 3: because I am content with myself now, and even really
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  Speaker 3: the voice helped me through that process growing in my confidence.
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  Speaker 3: But I think because I'm content in myself now, I'm
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  Speaker 3: I'm enjoying it a lot more and I'm having a
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  Speaker 3: lot more fun with it. And yes it's still work,
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  Speaker 3: and yes there's some days that I really don't want
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  Speaker 3: to get out of bed.
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  Speaker 4: And do anything.
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  Speaker 3: But in all reality, like I, yeah, I wouldn't. I
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't trade it for anything else.
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  Speaker 1: So I've got to ask you a personal question then,
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  Speaker 1: only because you know, with you and your father, you know,
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  Speaker 1: working with the worship band and putting God ahead of
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  Speaker 1: all things, when when you do have those mornings of
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  Speaker 1: challenge where you don't want to do it, it's and
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  Speaker 1: I always try to explain to people, it's not about me.
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  Speaker 1: It's who am I going to reach today, and if
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  Speaker 1: I don't show up, I'm not going to reach them.
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  Speaker 1: It's got to be I'm hearing the same thing inside
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  Speaker 1: your vocal tones right now, is that it ain't about me.
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  Speaker 2: It's not about me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, Yeah, I definitely I do this,
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  Speaker 3: and I do music, and I write songs.
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  Speaker 4: Really, I write songs specifically.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it helps me because it helps me get it
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  Speaker 3: out and it's fun for me, and it's and it's
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  Speaker 3: one of the best parts of the experience.
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  Speaker 4: I love writing.
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  Speaker 3: But I also do it because I know that there's
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  Speaker 3: times where I felt all these things and not so
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  Speaker 3: great things or even sometimes great things too. But I
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  Speaker 3: felt all these things, and I not very many people
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  Speaker 3: talk about it or speak about it, and I think
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  Speaker 3: there are a lot more people now.
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  Speaker 4: Since mental health is, you know, a big thing.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I think when I write my songs, I
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  Speaker 3: definitely don't just have myself in mind, and it's like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: well not just okay, what are these people going to like?
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  Speaker 3: But how am I going to connect to these people?
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  Speaker 3: And how am I going to get them one to
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  Speaker 3: understand me and relate? But also how am I going
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  Speaker 3: to understand them and relate to them? Because I try
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  Speaker 3: to keep myself in mind as well, So I'm not
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  Speaker 3: just like writing for people specifically, but it definitely it's
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  Speaker 3: it's definitely for me and for them.
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  Speaker 1: So sure, when you're at the blind auditions, is it
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  Speaker 1: like the moment that when you write a song, you
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  Speaker 1: record the song, you don't have anybody there watching yet,
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  Speaker 1: so therefore the second that you release it, is it
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  Speaker 1: just like those three chairs turning around? I mean, because
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  Speaker 1: I try to understand how in God's name can you
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  Speaker 1: sit there and stare at three chairs that aren't turned
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  Speaker 1: around and yet you perform like a million bucks? I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how you do it?
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  Speaker 3: Thanks I honestly, that's an interesting comparison.
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  Speaker 4: I would say, Yeah, I mean, really, a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Of different things in music give me that same feeling,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't really know how to describe but other
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  Speaker 3: to anyone other than I. Somebody asked me a question
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  Speaker 3: the other day about how it makes me feel, and
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  Speaker 3: I was like, really, all I can say is like.
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  Speaker 4: It feels like magic.
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  Speaker 3: Like I don't know how else to explain it, Like
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  Speaker 3: I can feel it in my whole body.
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  Speaker 4: It's and it's not just a rush of adrenaline.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure that's a part of it, but
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  Speaker 3: also it's just like I this feeling like I'm I'm
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  Speaker 3: almost immediately overwhelmed with so many every good emotion possible
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  Speaker 3: and so overwhelmed in a good way obviously, But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: the blind auditions was definitely a little terrifying. I think
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  Speaker 3: because I was on American Idol a few years ago.
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  Speaker 3: So I think because I had already went through a
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  Speaker 3: show and kind of went knew a little bit more
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  Speaker 3: so of what the process was going to be like.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously it's different, but I.
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  Speaker 3: Think I was more mentally prepared going into it, and
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  Speaker 3: I knew that I was going to be nervous, and
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  Speaker 3: I knew that, so I'm very good at like calming
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  Speaker 3: myself down and speaking kindly to myself. At least they
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  Speaker 3: try to be, so when I'm in my head, I
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  Speaker 3: really try to shut it down quick.
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: But also.
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: The voice production and everything is so great and so kind.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: So before you even audition, you're you know, there's tea
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: backstage and honeysticks, and you're with your other contestants and
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: you're talking with your friends and everyone's being kind, and
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: you know, you're getting ready to go on stage, fixing
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: your hair, fixing your clothes, and everyone's so sweet. So
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: the atmosphere there is honestly really great, and it's not
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: super at least for me. I didn't feel like it
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: was incredibly stressful. I mean, of course there were times
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: where I was like, Okay, I'm nervous, but I was
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: I never felt like too stressed about it until right.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: Before you go on stage.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: You're in front of these doors about to walk out,
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: and there's a thirty second countdown going, and there Carson's
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: out there and he's like talking about you and talking
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: about you about to come out, and you have wardrobe
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: people touching you up and make up, people touching you up,
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: and you have someone in front of you asking to
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: you if you're okay. Then you have your vocal coach
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: making sure you're you know, you're about to sing it correctly,
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: and so there's like a lot going on in those
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: last few minutes.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: And then so once those.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: People are done, they start to stop talking to you
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: at like ten nine, and so for those for those
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: last ten seconds, you're standing there like in silence. And
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: then at that moment that's when it sets in and
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: it's really like, Okay, well I'm terrified, but I have no.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: Other choice and I can't turn back.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: Now It's all these people behind me and these two
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: doors that are about to open it in front of me,
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: so I can't run away. So yeah, I once I
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: walk through those doors, and honestly, as soon I just
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: remember getting on stage and you have like two to
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: five seconds to like breathe before the music starts, and
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: I just remember telling myself.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: Okay, McKinley, breathe or you're not going to be able
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: to get through this.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: So I just try to call myself down, pull myself
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: together for a second, started singing, and honestly, as soon.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: As John and Adam turned around.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: I was the most relieved I had ever been my
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: entire life, and it was like every nerve had left
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: and I was able to just hoop and sing it how.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: Relax sing it more relaxed? For sure?
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about you
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: as well as your father? Because I mean, oh my god,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: what a journey. I just want people to fall in
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: love with you, to support you, to grow with you,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: to see you live. I mean, this is such a moment.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. Well, I appreciate it so much, and
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: you can. You can find me.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: All my social media is McKinley B. And then I
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: think my Facebook might be Kinley Brown and then all
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: of my I have music out as well on all
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: streaming platforms, so that's also McKinley Brown. So if you
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: want to find me anywhere social media anywhere on your phone.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: McKinley Brown or McKinley B.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, that's and then my dad, the Mike
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Brown Official, I think, on everything and he posts about
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: all our gigs and stuff too. So if you want
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: to follow me and follow him, that would be awesome.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm waiting for you to write a book and
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: the two of you create a soundtrack that goes with
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: that book.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: I really am.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, because when I see you, when I see
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: you perform, I just I just think that you're You're
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: a storyteller, and I just think that it's so Americana.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: If we if we heard a story between you and
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: your father and it came out in music as well,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: I just think Audible would just fall so.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: In love with that.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's actually a great idea. My dad just
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: looked at me and I was like, oh.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and make him do the editing of the book,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: all right, make him do the editing. Well, please come
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: back to this year so anytime in the future, the
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: door is always going to be open for you too.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: Of course, Thank you so much. I really appreciate it.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: Thanks for having us.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Will you be brilliant today? Okay, thanks, I will