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DIDDY'S KANYE DOUBLE-CROSS, KIM KARDASHIAN DRAGGED IN · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: Diddy's Kanye double cross as Kim Kardashian is dragged into
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Speaker 2: Shawn Combs's vortex. This as comes claims the Cassie Ventura
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Speaker 2: beat down video was doctored and a bombshell in a
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Speaker 2: Jay Z sex attack case, one lawyer quits and another
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Speaker 2: high profile lawyer seemingly forced out with his tail between
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Speaker 2: his legs. I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank
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Speaker 2: you for being with us.
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Speaker 3: Despite a mounting pile of evidence and seemingly endless scream
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Speaker 3: of lawsuits. P Diddy, please not guilty in federal sex
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Speaker 3: trafficking case.
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Speaker 2: Did Kanye double cross? Ditty with friends like that? Who
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Speaker 2: needs enemies?
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Speaker 1: Listen?
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Speaker 3: West shove support last month turned into an anti Semitic tirade,
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Speaker 3: but once again, Comb's is caught leaning on West for support.
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Speaker 3: In a jail call, Combs reportedly wasn't where Wes was recording.
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Speaker 3: Combs's sudden display of friendship with the controversial rapper seems
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Speaker 3: to highlight how isolated Combs has become as the allegations
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Speaker 3: against him pile up. Several other celebrity pals have made
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Speaker 3: it clear they want nothing to do with Combs, especially
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Speaker 3: jay Z, who fought bitterly to have his name cleared
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Speaker 3: from a lawsuit alleging the rape of a thirteen year
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Speaker 3: old girl.
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Speaker 2: Joining me an all star panel, but first two crime stories,
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Speaker 2: investigative reporter Sidney Summer, let me understand what happened, so
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Speaker 2: Kanye Ugh, after his anti Semitic tyret, I can hally
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Speaker 2: even speak his name.
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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm eating a dirt sandwich.
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Speaker 2: Kanye called Combs behind bars, and Combs thinks he's getting
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Speaker 2: all this support and they're having this conversation and then
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Speaker 2: let me.
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Speaker 1: Understand what happens, Sidney.
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Speaker 2: Then Kanye turns around, he secretly records the phone call
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Speaker 2: and uses it in a t.
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Speaker 4: That's correct, Nancy, That's exactly what happened. And it's not
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Speaker 4: clear as Comb's is specifically upset about the samples being
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Speaker 4: used in a song. Their conversation seems to involve music,
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Speaker 4: and Comb's wanting Kanye to get back to publishing music
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Speaker 4: and that being his focus. But Colmbs now feels slightly betrayed.
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Speaker 4: He's been pulled into this drama with Kanye West's ex
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Speaker 4: wife Kim Karashian, and that's the christ.
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Speaker 2: Hold on Sydney you had me at Comb's feels betrayed
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Speaker 2: because he's in a conversation Willingly with Kanye, and Kanye
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Speaker 2: secretly or not secretly records him and uses it to
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Speaker 2: make money on a track. Okay, listen.
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Speaker 5: Kanye's latest song, Lonely Roads Still Go to Sunshine features
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Speaker 5: a jailhouse phone call a verse from Combs, sun Christian
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Speaker 5: Kingcomb's and West daughter north West faces backlash your ex
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Speaker 5: wife Kim Kardashian over north sinking allusion. Combs now feels
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Speaker 5: like he's collateral damage. Combs thought the call came from
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Speaker 5: a place of genuine concern for him and his family
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Speaker 5: and is now embarrassed to be pulled into the crossfire.
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Speaker 2: Okay, there's a whole lot brewing with Kim k Kim Kardashian,
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Speaker 2: and the last thing did he needs is Kim Kardashian
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Speaker 2: and her mother. Chris Jenner three inches up his tail
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Speaker 2: pipe joining me right now. Rob Shooter, Rob Shooter, host
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Speaker 2: of Naughty but Nice podcast, former publicist for Sean Comb's,
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Speaker 2: author of The Forward Answer, Rob Shooter.
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Speaker 1: I want you to hear. I want you to hear.
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Speaker 2: What's on this track and what's on this secretly recorded
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Speaker 2: phone call.
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Speaker 1: Listen see.
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Speaker 2: Okay, you know what shooter, hold your horses, because I
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Speaker 2: definitely need a shrink right now.
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Speaker 1: More than I need.
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Speaker 2: Holmes is Diddies publicist hold it joining me. High profile
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Speaker 2: soschoanalyst joining us from LA author of deal Breaker. You
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Speaker 2: can see her now on Peacock Doctor Bethany Marshall. Guys,
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Speaker 2: that was exclusively from the Shade Room, Bethany. We just
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Speaker 2: played Seawan Comb's speaking apparently illicitly recorded to Kanye, and
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Speaker 2: he's saying, this is effing sad. I'm puff Daddy in jail.
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Speaker 2: This is effing sad as a mother effort. The devil
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Speaker 2: is a liar. Okay, what puff Daddy in jail? What
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Speaker 2: is he that shocked? If the allegations are true, he
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Speaker 2: has been raping women for years and years and years
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Speaker 2: and years and getting away with it because they were
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Speaker 2: afraid to come forward. And now it's sad that he's
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Speaker 2: in jail. Help me out here, Nancy.
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Speaker 6: He's shocked because he's gotten away with it for so
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Speaker 6: long because he thinks that what he's doing is perfectly reasonable.
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Speaker 6: He thinks it reasonable to sex traffic miners and sex
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Speaker 6: workers and women he thinks it's reasonable to bring men
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Speaker 6: in to have sex with women so he can watch.
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Speaker 1: He thinks it reasonable to have a.
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Speaker 6: Huge room liigned with mirrors so he can view sex
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Speaker 6: from every angle. And all these comments are so self referential.
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Speaker 6: They're all about him. There's nothing about the victims. There's
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Speaker 6: nothing really about his children. And I would say he's
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Speaker 6: doing what criminals do. Is something called shared paranoia, where
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Speaker 6: he tries to align with Kanye against the world, against
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Speaker 6: the legal experts, against the law, thinking that both of
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Speaker 6: them are just buddies in this together and everybody is
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Speaker 6: out to get them.
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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, I.
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Speaker 2: Want to hear that one more time. Is effing said
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Speaker 2: I'm puff daddy in jail? What okay, let's hear that again.
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Speaker 1: That say, hmm okay.
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Speaker 2: Well it doesn't end there. And we're getting that from
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Speaker 2: the shade room. You can find it online and there's more.
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Speaker 1: Let's listen, we're going bring.
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Speaker 7: It on family in and become a king and we're
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Speaker 7: supposed to be.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, the kings were supposed to be. All right,
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Speaker 1: this is Combs.
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Speaker 2: Did he speaking from his jail cell talking about the
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Speaker 2: king he is supposed to be?
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Speaker 1: Again?
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Speaker 2: That is exclusively from the Shade Room. Thank you the
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Speaker 2: Shaved Room. I'm gonna beat this and get next to you.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna raise our families and become the Kings that
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Speaker 2: we're supposed to be.
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Speaker 1: Okay, out to Rob Shooter joining me.
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Speaker 2: Former publicist for Shawn Combs, Shooter, can you.
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Speaker 1: Shed any light on this?
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Speaker 2: The Kings were supposed to be currently live like a
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Speaker 2: king ever since you told me? He called for cheesecake
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Speaker 2: at three a m. And somebody trotted out to get
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Speaker 2: it downtown Manhattan.
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Speaker 1: What do you make of it, Shooter.
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Speaker 8: I'm not at all surprised. This is who Puffy is.
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Speaker 8: He believes that the rules.
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Speaker 1: Do not pusy now is it Puffy?
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Speaker 9: Now?
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Speaker 8: It's many different names.
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Speaker 10: I always called him puff Puff, but lots of different
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Speaker 10: names then, Nancy, I'm including some, but you go right ahead.
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Speaker 10: Well you're right, and I've got a few names that
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Speaker 10: I shouldn't say on TV too about him.
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Speaker 8: But path did he whatever you want to call him,
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Speaker 8: This is who he is. He really believes he's very
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Speaker 8: specially doesn't surprise me at all that he's completely per
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Speaker 8: plagues that he is in jail. He thinks he's above
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Speaker 8: the law. He's not, and now he can't get his
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Speaker 8: head around it. It is a shocking woodio that you've
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Speaker 8: got your hands on via the Shade Room. But that
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Speaker 8: is him, that is who he thinks he is. This
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Speaker 8: is from the horses mads. He cannot believe this has
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Speaker 8: happened to him.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and another thing, Rob Shooter, which I'll circle back
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Speaker 2: to when we get into the whole North drama of
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Speaker 2: Kim Kay's daughter being included on some tracks and even recording.
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Speaker 1: When the Tate Brothers, you know, those two.
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Speaker 2: Guys charged with all those misogynist attacks, We're gonna be
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Speaker 2: hanging around no way in HG double L Would I
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Speaker 2: have my children around the Tate Brothers?
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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Kim k I had to go
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Speaker 1: for an emergency mediation.
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Speaker 2: Thanks Combs, straight out to Lynn Shaw. Lynn is the
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Speaker 2: founder and executive director Lynn's Warriors, which is dedicated to
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Speaker 2: ending human trafficking and sex attacks on girls and women.
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Speaker 1: She's the host of Lynn's Warriors on YouTube.
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Speaker 2: Lynn I think part of the reason that Sean Combs
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Speaker 2: is saying all this about how effing sadness is that
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Speaker 2: Puffy's in jail is because, as you know, oh, during
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Speaker 2: all of the free coughs and more. Women, as doctor
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Speaker 2: Bethny Marshall was describing, were nothing.
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Speaker 1: They were nothing to him. They were drugged. They had
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Speaker 1: no idea what was going on.
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Speaker 2: Many of them they were looped up with their whole
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Speaker 2: bodies covered in baby oil and in their semiconscious state,
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Speaker 2: they're reposed in very let me say, revealing positions and video.
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Speaker 1: Just just hold that thought for a moment.
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Speaker 2: You go to a party and you think, oh my stars,
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Speaker 2: there's going to be all these celebrities there. What if
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Speaker 2: I meet this one? What if I meet that one?
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Speaker 2: And you wake up with your anus, your rear end,
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Speaker 2: and your vagina hurting. Your body has been covered in
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Speaker 2: baby oil, your head's hurting, you feel nauseous, and then
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Speaker 2: you realize that you have been posed in different extra
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Speaker 2: rated positions so Sean Combs could get a better angle
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Speaker 2: with a group of guys standing around with professional lights
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Speaker 2: and video cameras as you were raped. Okay, these women
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Speaker 2: were like a paper cup to him.
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Speaker 1: They meant nothing.
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Speaker 2: But because of them coming forward, he is behind bars
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Speaker 2: and he can't stand it, and I need.
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Speaker 11: A shower after hearing all of that, the saddest thing victims,
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Speaker 11: alleged victims, all victims of sexual exploitation and trafficking. They
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Speaker 11: are keeping their eye on this story. Just the other day,
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Speaker 11: I ran into somebody who used to used to work
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Speaker 11: in the wrap world, a woman now, who said, I
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Speaker 11: really wish they could get to the bottom of this
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Speaker 11: if they only knew what really went on. We are
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Speaker 11: missing the point here and all of this discussion, the
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Speaker 11: focus has shifted. This is the Dirty Diddy playbook. Put
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Speaker 11: it all on him. We can all forget about the victims,
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Speaker 11: survivors of these attacks. And this is exactly why victims
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Speaker 11: never want to come forward, because they never are either believed,
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Speaker 11: they're ashamed, or the focus is always on the alleged perpetrator.
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Speaker 11: And I don't blame them. I don't blame them. So
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Speaker 11: let's see where this goes. But you know what the
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Speaker 11: feeling on the streets here in New York City is,
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Speaker 11: this will not go anywhere. He's got power and money
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Speaker 11: and he will not be held accountable.
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Speaker 2: And I'm telling you right now, cases are already being dismissed.
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Speaker 2: So I'm wondering if that's the beginning of a dominant effect.
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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: Straight out to Dodger and Dwayne Hendrick joining US former
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Speaker 2: associate Warden at NBC in Brooklyn, former senior Warden with
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Speaker 2: the US Department of Justice, Federal Bureau of Prisons and
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Speaker 2: founder president of a New Daylight Foundation, and he's the
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Speaker 2: author of who Are You Say It?
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Speaker 1: See It? Say It, and Seize It? Doctor Hendrix, could
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Speaker 1: you explain something to me?
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Speaker 2: How is it that Sean comes is having these long
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Speaker 2: conversations with Kanye of all people that just did all
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Speaker 2: those anti semitic rants and is selling t shirts with
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Speaker 2: swastikas on them.
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Speaker 1: Why is it that he can.
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Speaker 2: Have this long conversation with him and then Kanye tape it.
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Speaker 2: I mean, is this from a public phone? How does
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Speaker 2: that work? Or does he have a surreptitious cell phone?
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Speaker 12: No, the phone calls, each phone call is fifteen minutes
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Speaker 12: at length at a time, so any call would only
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Speaker 12: be that length. In terms of the recording, all phone
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Speaker 12: calls are recorded by the US government and the inmates
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Speaker 12: and the persons that take those calls from inmates from
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Speaker 12: the jails. Know that one thing I did not here
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Speaker 12: and the clip that you played, I didn't hear.
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Speaker 1: The recording, did you, Yes, exactly, guy.
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Speaker 2: So what you're talking about, because I was listening, doctor Hendrickson,
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Speaker 2: I never heard this call is originating from a federal
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Speaker 2: correctional institute, which tells me it is a syruptitious cell phone.
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Speaker 1: It could be.
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Speaker 12: Now here's the question.
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Speaker 2: If oh, look that tracking you, I'm saying nothing but
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Speaker 2: tailhold and elbows.
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Speaker 1: You're running.
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Speaker 7: Listen to me.
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Speaker 12: So the question is New York is a one party
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Speaker 12: consent state in terms of recording a call. Care Now,
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Speaker 12: if the call did come from a federal prison, there
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Speaker 12: is no law against the person receiving the call. However,
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Speaker 12: if this was what you're doing, if this was from myself.
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Speaker 2: Killing me, that one party consent, which doesn't matter because it's.
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Speaker 1: From a jail. I'm asking you it was just a
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Speaker 1: syruptisious cell phone that they're wetting.
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Speaker 2: Letting comes have behind bars. I never heard the jail.
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Speaker 2: This call originates from a federal correctional institute.
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Speaker 12: Now we need to go to the shame room and
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Speaker 12: ask the full conversation, because ultimately we would only know
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Speaker 12: that if we have the full full clip, So that
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Speaker 12: will be the only way we'll know.
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Speaker 8: What he was.
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Speaker 2: Doctor hendricks don't be dragging the shade room into it.
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Speaker 2: They just got a hold of the tape after Kanye
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Speaker 2: leaked it. The issue is in the jail. Shawn Holm's
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Speaker 2: getting special privileges because this clearly is not on a jail.
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Speaker 2: It's not on a jail phone. It has to be
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Speaker 2: from a cell phone.
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Speaker 7: No, he's not calling from a cell phone.
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Speaker 12: He'd be the last person.
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Speaker 1: Where is the recording. I've never had one.
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Speaker 2: Jail call, and I've taught to inmates for hours and
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Speaker 2: hours and hours not wasted time because usually they would
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Speaker 2: give me information on other cases. But that said, you
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Speaker 2: can't go what a minute without hearing that recording saying
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Speaker 2: this call originates from a federal correctional institute.
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Speaker 1: I didn't hear that.
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Speaker 12: Again, those were short clips that we saw. So the
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Speaker 12: only way we would be able to verify that if
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Speaker 12: we were able to hear the clip for more than
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Speaker 12: forty five seconds to a minute or a minute and
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Speaker 12: fifteen seconds. But I highly doubt that that gentleman had
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Speaker 12: a cell phone in that prison.
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Speaker 7: I guarantee you as not.
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Speaker 2: Let's listen to more of the call between Kanye and Sean.
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Speaker 1: Comes straight out to you.
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Speaker 2: Joshua Ritter joining US High profile, criminal defense attorney, former prosecutor,
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Speaker 2: and host of Courtroom Confidential on YouTube. We're hearing the
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Speaker 2: exclusive sound from the Shade Room. Question to you, I
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Speaker 2: believe that there has been a collaboration between Kanye and
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Speaker 2: Shawn Comes, and we talked about it weeks ago. I
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Speaker 2: think you were with us where they're doing some sort
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Speaker 2: of a monetary enterprise to make money and low and
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Speaker 2: behold surprise. Now Seawn Comes is featured on Kanye's truck.
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Speaker 2: This jail call is on the truck, and you know
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Speaker 2: they're going to make money off of it.
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Speaker 7: Rit or maybe well somebody's going to be making money
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Speaker 7: off of it. I don't know if Sean Combs is
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Speaker 7: going to be making any money off of it, but
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Speaker 7: it sounds like Kanye is certainly taking advantage of this
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Speaker 7: relationship or whatever you want to call it, this sad
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Speaker 7: sort of friendship. The only person in the world who
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Speaker 7: probably is actually taking Seawan Combs's phone calls is Kanye.
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Speaker 7: And you know, good luck to Shawan Combs on that.
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Speaker 7: It seems like it's just being used to exploit him.
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Speaker 7: But can I get back to the point about whether
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Speaker 7: or not this is a cell phone that was surpiciously
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Speaker 7: snuck into that prison. I mean, this happens all the time.
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Speaker 7: I hear what's being said that they're searching him, they're
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Speaker 7: keeping an eye on him. I don't think the guards
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Speaker 7: are providing him with a phone. But that's cell phones,
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Speaker 7: contraband cell phones are currency inside of these lock up facilities.
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Speaker 7: So the idea that a person with his types of
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Speaker 7: connections and his types of wealth and power and influence
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Speaker 7: outside of those walls would be able to somehow enagle
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Speaker 7: his way into getting a cell phone, I don't think
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Speaker 7: is outside of the realm of possibility. He did.
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Speaker 3: His former chief of staff breaks silence of this a
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Speaker 3: slew of allegations. As the embattled music mogul awaits trial
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Speaker 3: for sex trafficking charges in New York.
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Speaker 2: And while he's waiting behind bars, counting down to the
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Speaker 2: day of trial, he's on the phone.
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Speaker 1: With none other than conne Yea.
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Speaker 2: Who reportedly secretly records the call to use to his
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Speaker 2: own benefit. Let's take a listen to the trap an.
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Speaker 4: Nobody and wing Mom, and.
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Speaker 2: He actually used the jail recording the conversation in his
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Speaker 2: track that from easy.
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Speaker 1: I'm a little.
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Speaker 2: Confused, sending summer let me understand something, sending summer joining
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Speaker 2: US Crime Stories investigative reporter that is comes behind bars
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Speaker 2: claiming that no one's taking care of his children while
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Speaker 2: he's behind bars.
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Speaker 4: Yes, Nancy, that's correct.
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Speaker 2: Okay, let me understand something. To high profile defense attorney
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Speaker 2: Joshua Ritter, Uh, isn't that what happens when you go
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Speaker 2: to jail on a federal indictment, a multi count indictment
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Speaker 2: of sex trafficking, raping, and abusing drugging women.
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Speaker 1: Your children don't go to jail with you, right?
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Speaker 2: He said, that's a thing you should think about before
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Speaker 2: you rape somebody.
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Speaker 7: I mean, yes, I don't know how else.
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Speaker 1: Stand you're laughing about you think the victims thing? This
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Speaker 1: is funny? And bodies with my children? Yeah, think about
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Speaker 1: that before.
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Speaker 2: You drug somebody and slaughter them up with baby oil.
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Speaker 1: What about that?
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Speaker 2: Ritter?
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Speaker 7: I think, listen, you're you're absolutely right. But I mean,
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Speaker 7: let's give him some credit here, right, I mean, he
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Speaker 7: is still caring about his family. He's caught in a
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Speaker 7: position where the only person in the world who he
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Speaker 7: can talk to about this looks like it's Kanye. And
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Speaker 7: Kanye is even taking that phone call and exploiting it
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Speaker 7: and trying to profit off of it. So I mean, listen,
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Speaker 7: the man's behind bars, probably taking taking whatever phone calls
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Speaker 7: you can actually make, and trying to do the best
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Speaker 7: that he can to protect her. Stop children. I don't
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Speaker 7: want much more I can say.
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Speaker 1: I think I just threw up a little bit in
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Speaker 1: my mouth.
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Speaker 2: Okay, you're saying feel sorry for Sean Tom Okay, you
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Speaker 2: know Linnshaw. Isn't that something that an alleged rapist should
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Speaker 2: think about beforehand?
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Speaker 1: I mean, how many women can you attack and video.
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Speaker 2: For Pete's sake, State's Exhibit number one and think you're
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Speaker 2: never gonna get caught. And now he's whining he's not
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Speaker 2: there to take care of his children. Think about that
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Speaker 2: before you commit a crime. And Josh Ritter's shame on you.
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Speaker 1: No, no, no.
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Speaker 11: You know, money talks and crime walks. The first thing
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Speaker 11: when this case broke, I thought of his teenage twin daughters.
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Speaker 11: That's what I thought of. I thought of, Oh, he's
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Speaker 11: got this family. What are his kids think of him?
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Speaker 11: Especially these two young girls? What is his sympathy? If
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Speaker 11: I didn't know better, I would think that Easy Yuck
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Speaker 11: and Dirty Diddy were in on something together and did
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Speaker 11: this whole thing as a just one big distraction from
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Speaker 11: what's really going on here, just to keep their names
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Speaker 11: in the news. There is no sympathy for this alleged rapist, sploiter.
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Speaker 1: Whatever you want to call it. And I remind everybody.
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Speaker 2: I rid er che on that for a minute, Doctor
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Speaker 2: Bethany Marshall, let's jump off of what Lynn Shaw just said,
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Speaker 2: because I find this highly manipulative. Okay, it's so, and
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Speaker 2: I'm sure you have the right psycho lingo to describe it.
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Speaker 1: But he's behind bars.
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Speaker 2: According to the state, he's innocent until proven guilty for
21:27
Speaker 2: week after week after week for decades, as long as
21:31
Speaker 2: he got a little money and a little power. As
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Speaker 2: soon as he got that, he could start abusing women
21:37
Speaker 2: and young girls. According to prosecutors, this has been going
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Speaker 2: on for decades. Okay, they just amended and created a
21:45
Speaker 2: superseding indictment to date the sex attacks further back. And
21:51
Speaker 2: now that he's finally in jail awaiting trial, he's.
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Speaker 1: Like, oh, nobody's taking care of my children.
21:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, think about that man before you rape somebody.
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Speaker 1: How do you think these victims feel when.
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Speaker 2: They hear him whining to Kanye, nobody's taking care of
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Speaker 2: my children.
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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, don't these children have mothers?
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Speaker 6: I mean, PJD is not the only one in their lives.
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Speaker 1: The victims have to hear.
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Speaker 6: Him whining and think about him sort of worrying about
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Speaker 6: his children. But there's no reference to the victims. And
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Speaker 6: all this time and money he spent on these parties, Nancy,
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Speaker 6: he wasn't.
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Speaker 1: I would be curious.
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Speaker 6: Was he setting up college funds?
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Speaker 2: You know what college funds? Don't get me started on
22:32
Speaker 2: college funds. But you're absolutely right following up all what
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Speaker 2: doctor Bethany Marshall and when Shaw just said to Rob Shooter.
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Speaker 1: He is the host of Naughty but.
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Speaker 2: Nice podcast, author and former publicist too Seawan comes Okay.
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Speaker 2: Number one rule and cross examination. Don't ask the question
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Speaker 2: you don't know the answer to.
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Speaker 1: But I'm going to go out on a limb.
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Speaker 2: How much interaction did Combs have with his children when
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Speaker 2: you were with him?
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Speaker 8: Limited? It was limited interaction. Now, their mother was still
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Speaker 8: alive at the time.
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Speaker 13: She's no longer with us, and so they spent most
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Speaker 13: of the time with their mom. Whenever I'd go to
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Speaker 13: his house, his apartment in New York, or his house
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Speaker 13: in the Hampton's or his house in Miami. I never
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Speaker 13: saw the children there. In fact, the only time I
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Speaker 13: ever got to really see the children was on red
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Speaker 13: carpets when the press was there.
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Speaker 8: Did he like showing off what a great daddy was
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Speaker 8: when the press wasn't there? Not so much?
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Speaker 3: Anye West drops a shocking distract feat repeated these words
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Speaker 3: a misheated online battle with ex Kim Kay.
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Speaker 1: So apparently.
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Speaker 2: Kim Kardashian's children are featured on Kanye's track Let's Listen
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Speaker 2: first to North when you see Michel.
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Speaker 1: And then he said a light a lie every day?
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Speaker 2: Nor right that from Easy straight out to Sydney Sumner
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Speaker 2: joining us Sydney.
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Speaker 1: What happened?
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Speaker 4: So Nancy, Kanye West brought North into the studio with him,
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Speaker 4: and she decided to use her vocals on this song,
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Speaker 4: which Kim Kardashian views as highly irresponsible and shows that
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Speaker 4: Kanye has no regard for North's future or her reputation.
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Speaker 4: I mean, putting an eleven year old girl on the
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Speaker 4: same song as Diddy, who is accused of all of
24:36
Speaker 4: these atrocities. So Kardashian was understandably upset, and she did
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Speaker 4: her absolute best to keep this song from being published
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Speaker 4: in any way, shape or form. And now Kim Kardashian
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Speaker 4: actually owned the trademark to Northwest's name, and they set
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Speaker 4: that up to help protect her future, to give her
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Speaker 4: a source of income for the future, and that name.
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Speaker 4: Those rights will turn over to North herself when she's
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Speaker 4: old enough to handle them. But for the moment, Kanye
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Speaker 4: West has no legal right to use Northwest's name in
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Speaker 4: any capacity, so she first tried to remind him of that,
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Speaker 4: using that as a block. Hey, you cannot release this
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Speaker 4: song with her using her name. He didn't want to
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Speaker 4: cooperate with that.
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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, Sidney. Listen.
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Speaker 3: Northwest's short verse on Lonely Roads Still Go to Sunshine
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Speaker 3: is not the tweens first dabble in hip hop, also
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Speaker 3: collaborating with FKA Twigs on Childlike Things, But after Kim
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Speaker 3: Kardashian's criticism Kanye West's decision to put their daughter on
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Speaker 3: a track with Diddy, West has nothing but disapproval for
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Speaker 3: Kardashian's choices about letting North collaborate with other artists. West
25:51
Speaker 3: explodes at Playboy Cardi on X after Cardi asked Kardashian
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Speaker 3: to have North send him a song. West then calls
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Speaker 3: his ex wife a sex trafficker, implying North's collaboration with
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Speaker 3: Twigs was not age appropriate.
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Speaker 2: Okay, let me understand clarify this for me, Sidney Center.
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Speaker 1: So Kanye uses.
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Speaker 2: North, Okay uses North in a track, and it's my
26:22
Speaker 2: understanding that the Tate brothers were visiting or about to visit.
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Speaker 2: You know, the Tate brothers that were basically kicked out
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Speaker 2: of the country and are accused of all sorts of
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Speaker 2: misogynistic attacks on women. Those Tape Brothers were going to
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Speaker 2: be around while North laid tracks.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Nancy, So that's happened about two days later, after
26:48
Speaker 4: all of the song drama. So Ken is still trying
26:52
Speaker 4: to do her best to give Kanye access to his
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Speaker 4: children despite everything he's done, despite pulling the stunt with
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Speaker 4: releasing Northwest on this song with Diddy, She's still allowing
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Speaker 4: North to visit with her dad, and Kanye West invites
27:09
Speaker 4: the Tate brothers to their house. So his security guard
27:13
Speaker 4: let Kim Kardashian know what was going on, and she
27:16
Speaker 4: immediately came and picked North up so that she was
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Speaker 4: not exposed to those two men.
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Speaker 2: You know, Sidney, a lot of people may not know
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Speaker 2: who the Tate brothers are. They have been in Romania
27:31
Speaker 2: behind bars. Explain who the Tate brothers are. Now, just
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Speaker 2: imagine the Tate brothers, Andrew and trist In Tate somehow
27:43
Speaker 2: make their way back into the US, which I strongly oppose.
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Speaker 1: They get back into the.
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Speaker 2: US and somehow hook up with Kanye and Sean comes
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Speaker 2: behind bars. He's aware that Kanye is using north for tracks.
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Speaker 1: Right, Well, Nancy, we can't be too.
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Speaker 4: Sure what Colmes knew about Kanye's plans to put Northwest
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Speaker 4: on the track. But what we do know about the
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Speaker 4: Tate brothers is they started out as influencers for men,
28:17
Speaker 4: so they would post videos and discuss finding your masculinity
28:22
Speaker 4: and what it is to be a man and how
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Speaker 4: you should live your life.
28:26
Speaker 2: And somehow Seawan Comes behind bars has been dragged into
28:29
Speaker 2: this saga. Now, let me understand, after all of this,
28:35
Speaker 2: Kim Kay files for an emergency mediation and Kanye's a
28:42
Speaker 2: no show.
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Speaker 4: Correct, that's correct, he did not show up for that hearing.
28:45
Speaker 1: Now, explain to.
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Speaker 2: Me what this has to do with Sean Combs, how
28:51
Speaker 2: he's gotten roped into this because we're talking about North.
28:55
Speaker 2: Okay North is Kanye and Kim Kay's daughter. So what
29:01
Speaker 2: does that have to do with Shawn Combs and how
29:04
Speaker 2: is that affecting his trial?
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Speaker 4: Sydney Nancy, It really has nothing to do with Sean Combs.
29:09
Speaker 4: Until that phone call dropped. Until this week of that
29:14
Speaker 4: phone call was exposed to the public, everybody thought that
29:18
Speaker 4: Sean Combs was not touching Kanye with a ten foot poll.
29:22
Speaker 4: I mean, we saw how quickly his vote of confidence
29:26
Speaker 4: in Combs turned into an anti semitic tirade just last month.
29:31
Speaker 4: So after that, you would think that Combs would have
29:33
Speaker 4: learned his lesson and stayed away. But it just highlights
29:37
Speaker 4: how isolated Combs is.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't have any friends.
29:40
Speaker 4: In Hollywood if he's asking to turn to Kanye for friendship.
29:44
Speaker 5: Legendary rapper Jay Z denies the allegation he raped a
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Speaker 5: thirteen year old girl at a VMA after party. Jane
29:50
Speaker 5: Doe amended her a lawsuit filed in October that only
29:54
Speaker 5: named Sean Combs while redacting the names of two other
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Speaker 5: celebrities at the party that night. The suit states quote
30:00
Speaker 5: defended Seawan Combs, along with his longtime friend and collaborator
30:03
Speaker 5: Sean Carter aka jay Z, drugged and raped a thirteen
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Speaker 5: year old girl at an after party following the two
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Speaker 5: thousand Video Music Awards. Another celebrity stood by and watch
30:14
Speaker 5: as Combs and Carter took turns assaulting the miner.
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Speaker 2: That case has been dismissed. That case against jay Z
30:25
Speaker 2: has been dismissed. And not only that, the lawyer that
30:30
Speaker 2: basically started a one to eight hundred for Shawn Comes
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Speaker 2: has turned tail Listen.
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Speaker 5: Houston lawyer Tony Busby has been forced to step down
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Speaker 5: from several of his lawsuits against Sean Diddy Combs after
30:43
Speaker 5: his case involving jay Z was dismissed. Sean Carter has
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Speaker 5: not wavered in his quest for retribution since the case
30:50
Speaker 5: was withdrawn. Finally, complaints that Busby is not authorized or
30:53
Speaker 5: practice in the Southern District of New York where many
30:55
Speaker 5: of his clients have filed.
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Speaker 2: Okay, hold on just a moment, So Tony Busby is
31:01
Speaker 2: backing out of these several cases.
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Speaker 4: Yes, Nancy, not by his own choice, so jay Z.
31:07
Speaker 4: After this case was dismissed, jay Z still has a
31:11
Speaker 4: defamation suit against Tony Busby, an extortion suit against Tony Busby,
31:16
Speaker 4: but he went so far as to file formal complaints
31:20
Speaker 4: claiming that Buzzby is not allowed to serve as a
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Speaker 4: lawyer in the Southern District of New York, which unfortunately
31:29
Speaker 4: is true. Buzzy is not certified to serve in that district.
31:34
Speaker 4: He is allowed to serve in the Eastern District of
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Speaker 4: New York, but he has not stopped applied for jurisdiction.
31:41
Speaker 4: Stop stop, Joshua Ritter.
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Speaker 2: This is all technical legal term bs because hasn't anybody
31:51
Speaker 2: heard pro hot and vice.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't have to be certified there.
31:57
Speaker 2: He can have a lawyer who is there, bring him
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Speaker 2: on as co counsel, and get approval on an ag
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Speaker 2: ad hot basis.
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Speaker 1: It happens all the time. So that's not why he's
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Speaker 1: backing out of these cases.
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Speaker 7: No, you're right, it does happen all the time. It's
32:16
Speaker 7: also not that hard to get yourself admitted into the
32:18
Speaker 7: Southern District of New York, so you can go ahead
32:20
Speaker 7: and file these cases yourself. And as you just pointed out,
32:23
Speaker 7: this is kind of elementary stuff. This is entry level
32:28
Speaker 7: lawyering here, So I you know, the idea that he
32:31
Speaker 7: somehow missed this either speaks to he's in above his
32:35
Speaker 7: head on these cases. I mean, he filed a lot
32:37
Speaker 7: of cases, and to me, this is just not the
32:39
Speaker 7: first step towards handling them professionally, or he just what
32:45
Speaker 7: is unaware that he needed to have himself admitted or
32:47
Speaker 7: like you point out, a pro hoc VJ council appointed
32:50
Speaker 7: for him in those local districts. So I don't get it,
32:53
Speaker 7: and it's it's it's going to be problematic because now
32:56
Speaker 7: you've got all of these clients who are feeling they
32:58
Speaker 7: were represented by one person and he's basically pulling the
33:02
Speaker 7: ripcord and saying I'm out. You're going to have to
33:03
Speaker 7: find some of their lawyer to help yourself out here
33:05
Speaker 7: in New.
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Speaker 2: York Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. So now Tony Busby,
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Speaker 2: who made quite the splash at the get go, is
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Speaker 2: backing out of the case with his tail between his
33:26
Speaker 2: legs because he says he's not qualified.
33:29
Speaker 1: Well, he's qualified.
33:30
Speaker 2: He's not admitted to pridice in that jurisdiction, like I'm
33:34
Speaker 2: not admitted to privtice in Alaska, Okay. But he can
33:38
Speaker 2: be brought in on the case under pro hac vice,
33:42
Speaker 2: which means on an ad hoc basis, you can be
33:45
Speaker 2: brought in even if you're not certified in that jurisdiction.
33:50
Speaker 2: So why is he really backing out? Don't know, but
33:52
Speaker 2: this is where he started.
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Speaker 9: The biggest secret in the entertainment industry, it really wasn't
33:58
Speaker 9: a secret at all, has finally been revealed to the world.
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Speaker 9: The wall of silence has now been broken and victims
34:07
Speaker 9: are coming forward. Our team has had at this point
34:12
Speaker 9: more than three thousand and two hundred and eighty five
34:14
Speaker 9: individuals contact us with people claiming people claiming to have
34:19
Speaker 9: been victimized by Sean Combs.
34:23
Speaker 2: That's from the official at Tony Busby on Instagram. But
34:26
Speaker 2: now he's backing out with tail between his legs on
34:28
Speaker 2: multiple cases. But he's staying on on others. All this
34:31
Speaker 2: while seemingly Shawn Combs' defense team is grasping at straws
34:36
Speaker 2: claiming that the Cassie Ventura beat down video was doctorned.
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Speaker 1: Let's take a look at that video real quick.
34:43
Speaker 2: This is in a very exclusive resort hotel, Cassie Ventira
34:50
Speaker 2: leaving what she said was a free cough.
34:52
Speaker 1: And whoa, here he comes down the hall in a towle.
34:55
Speaker 1: Just never gets so old, does it? And wham there
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Speaker 1: you go.
35:01
Speaker 2: Now excuse me, as we were watching this Sidney Sumner
35:06
Speaker 2: who comes claiming doctored the video.
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Speaker 4: Yancy, So this video was released exclusively by CNN, and
35:16
Speaker 4: his team claims that the outlet altered the video, that
35:20
Speaker 4: they set it up, that they made some jump cuts
35:24
Speaker 4: so that the assault looks much worse than it really was.
35:28
Speaker 4: Even if that is the case in the version that
35:30
Speaker 4: the public has seen, CNN has now come back and said,
35:34
Speaker 4: of course, we have the original footage with no changes
35:37
Speaker 4: made to it, which is exactly what they turned over
35:39
Speaker 4: to prosecutors when they asked for it.
35:41
Speaker 2: Dundor Methody Marshall, psychoanalyst. He's claiming that CNN somehow docted
35:47
Speaker 2: it to make it look worse than it really was.
35:49
Speaker 1: Really, could it be worse than what we saw?
35:53
Speaker 2: I mean, Sandy has the original, that's what will come
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Speaker 2: in at trial.
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Speaker 1: This is all bs.
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Speaker 6: It's like he's saying, well, I only kicked her once.
36:00
Speaker 6: I didn't kick her twice. Okay, I hit her in
36:01
Speaker 6: the eye, but I didn't give her a black eye.
36:03
Speaker 6: He's really minimizing the abuse and Nancy, this is what
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Speaker 6: abusers do. They minimize, they downplay, they.
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Speaker 1: Act like they really didn't do the abuse.
36:13
Speaker 6: But this is clear, clear as the day.
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Speaker 1: All right, blame it on CNN. They made it Lert
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Speaker 1: look worse than it quote really was. I don't think
36:23
Speaker 1: that happened.
36:24
Speaker 2: And if it weren't true, why with Sean comes say this.
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Speaker 14: It's so difficult to reflect on the darkest times in
36:35
Speaker 14: your life. Sometimes you got to do that. I was,
36:42
Speaker 14: I mean, I hit rock bottom, but I made no excuses.
36:47
Speaker 1: My behavior on that video is inexcusable.
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Speaker 14: I take full responsibility from my ashes in that video.
36:56
Speaker 2: So if it's not real, why is he apologizing for it?
36:58
Speaker 2: I'm not hearing him screaming right there that was a doctor.
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Speaker 1: That's not real.
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Speaker 2: That is from Diddy's official instapage.
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Speaker 12: Maxwell and Epstein were with Jetner from Tasting Minor Dunter
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Speaker 12: to travel to Asking.
37:13
Speaker 8: Your Residences his residence in New York City for.
37:16
Speaker 9: The Aurey Side, as well as the Homey Flora.
37:21
Speaker 1: And Sandy Bay and Nico. Some of the ass interviews.
37:26
Speaker 9: Also took say Maxwell, you residents in love Inde.
37:30
Speaker 2: You are hearing us attorney for the Southern District of
37:33
Speaker 2: New York. That's Audrey Strauss speaking about Jelaine Maxwell. Why
37:38
Speaker 2: Jelaine Maxwell was a hitch person for Epstein, Jeffrey Epstein
37:44
Speaker 2: basically his pimp, going out and finding young girls for
37:49
Speaker 2: him to abuse. She's sitting behind bars in a federal
37:52
Speaker 2: penitentiary right now. But what does that have to do
37:54
Speaker 2: with Sean Combs everything because of Christina Korum? Is Christina
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Speaker 2: Korum the next co defendant, undisclosed co conspirator or star.
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Speaker 1: Witness listen Sean Diddy.
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Speaker 3: Combs's chief of staff, Christina Korum, has been accused of
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Speaker 3: numerous atrocities, from forcing employees to carry drugs or recruit
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Speaker 3: women for freak offs, to standing witness to a gang
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Speaker 3: rape after trying to place an IUD in the victim. Quorum,
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Speaker 3: whom Combs has referred to as his sole sister and
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Speaker 3: right hand, worked for the mogul for more than a
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Speaker 3: decade after previous roles at Paramount Pictures in Burberry. The
38:34
Speaker 3: two were previously close, with Comb's posting a long birthday
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Speaker 3: message for Quorum on Instagram.
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Speaker 2: Showed out to Joshua Ritter joining us, a high profile
38:43
Speaker 2: criminal defense attorney former prosecutor. You can find him on
38:46
Speaker 2: Quorum Confidential on YouTube. Joshua Korum denies all.
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Speaker 1: But she's in it. She had to be a witness.
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Speaker 2: The state is deducing at least a witness to what
39:00
Speaker 2: was going on.
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Speaker 1: That's his right hand person.
39:03
Speaker 2: So what will she be an undisclosed unnamed co conspirator.
39:08
Speaker 2: Will she end up being a co defendant on a
39:11
Speaker 2: conspirat under a conspiracy theory eight or and a better theory?
39:15
Speaker 1: Or will she be the state star witness?
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Speaker 7: Well, she's smart, She's going to be the state star witness.
39:21
Speaker 7: I mean, you know how this works, Nancy. The government
39:23
Speaker 7: comes to you and they basically give you a choice.
39:25
Speaker 7: Which way do you want to go on this? Do
39:28
Speaker 7: you want to be the United States versus Sean Dittycomb's
39:31
Speaker 7: and yourself? Or do you want to be on the
39:34
Speaker 7: witness list? And do you want to be somebody who
39:36
Speaker 7: testifies against him?
39:37
Speaker 4: She don't.
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Speaker 7: I don't think it's really a choice she has. I
39:40
Speaker 7: think she has to say, let me help you, how
39:44
Speaker 7: can I possibly help you? Please tell me where I
39:46
Speaker 7: can sign as a cooperator to testify against this man.
39:50
Speaker 7: And it sounds like if she was as close to
39:52
Speaker 7: him as even he is saying there's a lot of
39:55
Speaker 7: helpful information to the government that she possibly has daughter.
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Speaker 2: Dwayne Hendrix's jo US, former associate awarden at MDC in Brooklyn.
40:03
Speaker 2: You and I were going around and round about weather
40:05
Speaker 2: Combs has a cell phone, right if he does have
40:09
Speaker 2: that illegal cell phone with him, you don't think he's
40:12
Speaker 2: calling Korum on the phone trying to get her story straight,
40:16
Speaker 2: trying to talk her out of testifying. You don't think
40:18
Speaker 2: that's happening right now. And remember he was already busted
40:21
Speaker 2: trying to intimidate victims and witnesses once before. And you're
40:26
Speaker 2: still sticking with your story he doesn't have a cell phone.
40:28
Speaker 12: I'm sticking with my story that he does not have
40:30
Speaker 12: a cell phone, and I'm gonna tell you why, because
40:32
Speaker 12: now that he's been outed with the Kanye conversation, if
40:36
Speaker 12: that phone call was not recorded on the federal call system,
40:41
Speaker 12: then they will absolutely know that he would have a
40:44
Speaker 12: cell phone.
40:45
Speaker 2: And you know what if, Dwayne Hendricks, I think you
40:50
Speaker 2: may be right. I don't think he has a cell phone.
40:53
Speaker 2: I think he's got two. Nancy Gray signing off goodbye,
40:59
Speaker 2: friend
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Speaker 7: To give me s