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Bonus Episode: Punk Albums By Artists Who Weren’t Punk, and Rolling Stone Rage Baits All Punk Rockers Everywhere, and Weezer is coming to Disgraceland · DISGRACELAND

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  Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,
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  Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. Yeah, me too.
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  Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,
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  Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party.
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  Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after
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  Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full
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  Speaker 1: episode or Disgraceland to the other, the backyard, to dig
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  Speaker 1: into the dirt, our mission to uncover the truth and
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  Speaker 1: to confront the myth and to reclaim the story. On
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  Speaker 1: this bonus episode, Sonic Youth The Definition of Punk, a
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  Speaker 1: Weezer episode preview, and an update on our Made Madness
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  Speaker 1: sitcom music Slugfest, plus your voicemails, texts, emails, comments, dms,
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  Speaker 1: and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. This is
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  Speaker 1: the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent
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  Speaker 1: thinkers who know that the best history is the history
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  Speaker 1: that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell the stories
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  Speaker 1: they didn't want told, the kind you'll end up telling
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  Speaker 1: someone else. All right, disc goes, let's get into it.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm writing about Kim Gordon and Thurston Moore from
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  Speaker 1: Sonic Youth this week. It's for an upcoming episode, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: and the episode is less about one of the coolest
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  Speaker 1: rock and roll couples to ever take the stage together,
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  Speaker 1: though it's partly about their relationship, but it's more about
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  Speaker 1: the true crime at the heart of the Sonic Youth
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  Speaker 1: album cover for Go, one of the coolest album covers
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  Speaker 1: of all time, and cool. The concept of cool. It
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  Speaker 1: came up over and over again in the Sonic Youth
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  Speaker 1: research and in the research for the crime photo depicted
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  Speaker 1: in the album's art. Cool as in cool sound, cool look,
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  Speaker 1: cool attitude, cool as in cool way of living your life,
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  Speaker 1: cool as it being cool to each other, to your fans,
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  Speaker 1: to your wife, cool thing, all of that. Okay, Sonic
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  Speaker 1: Youth were the coolest, and then they weren't thirst and
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  Speaker 1: more lost his cool. But you can't take away from
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  Speaker 1: what that band was, from what they created, from the
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  Speaker 1: impact that they had. I did a podcast interview last
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  Speaker 1: week on a show with some friends of mine, show
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  Speaker 1: called Stuff they Don't Want you to Know. It's not
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  Speaker 1: out yet, but it'll be out soon, and they asked
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  Speaker 1: me to describe Sonic Youth, and I said, that the
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  Speaker 1: band was a mix of East Coast no wave and
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  Speaker 1: West Coast hardcore. And I suppose that that's just the
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  Speaker 1: music historians half cute way of describing their music. In
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  Speaker 1: describing Raymond Petibon, the artist who created the artwork for
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  Speaker 1: Sonic Youth, Goo Greg Ginn from Black Flag's brother, Petibon,
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  Speaker 1: the dude who created all those great Black Flag album
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  Speaker 1: covers SSD Flyers, you recognize this stuff. I describe Petibon
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  Speaker 1: in the following way. This is when I was writing
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  Speaker 1: about the episode yesterday, by the way, not in the
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  Speaker 1: podcast interview, but I wrote the following. In a word,
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  Speaker 1: Petabond's work is punk. Here are some other words. Petabond's
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  Speaker 1: art is subversive, It's dangerous, larcenus and again totally unique
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  Speaker 1: like real punk, no matter the context seventies eighties East coast,
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  Speaker 1: West Coast UK US. You know it when you hear it.
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  Speaker 1: With Petabond's art, you know it when you see it.
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  Speaker 1: Now about Sonic Youth, I wrote, when Sonic Youth began
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  Speaker 1: back in nineteen eighty one, they weren't punk. Punk was dead.
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  Speaker 1: They weren't new wave, they were no wave. They weren't
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  Speaker 1: just loud they were noise, and they weren't your typical
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  Speaker 1: rock and roll band set up. There was a girl
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  Speaker 1: in the band and her name was Kim Kim Gordon,
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  Speaker 1: and she was a badass, not some cutesy ornament, not
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  Speaker 1: some sultry front woman. She was gorgeous, sure, but beyond stereotyping.
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  Speaker 1: Her beauty seemed to spring from her strength, not polish.
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  Speaker 1: So in trying to describe the coolness of this band,
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  Speaker 1: the coolness of the artist, Raymond Peedimond, that they collaborated
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  Speaker 1: with the coolness of the Goo album cover, I kept
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  Speaker 1: coming up against the word punk, and Sonic Youth was
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  Speaker 1: heavily influenced by seventies punk rock. Thurstay Moore was there
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  Speaker 1: at nearly every important late seventies early eighties New York
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  Speaker 1: City punk moment. Yet Sonic Youth they're not really thought
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  Speaker 1: of as a punk band. They're thought of as something else,
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  Speaker 1: and that's fine. I don't really care, only so much
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  Speaker 1: as a matter of my own intellectual curiosity, how do
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  Speaker 1: we categorize this band, or any band from the eighties
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  Speaker 1: or nineties who came out of the influence of punk. Again,
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  Speaker 1: back to what I said, like real punk, No matter
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  Speaker 1: the context seventies eighties, East Coast, West Coast, UK, US.
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  Speaker 1: You know it when you hear it. Now? Have you
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  Speaker 1: ever heard Jerry Lee Lewis's Live at the Star Club
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  Speaker 1: album from nineteen sixty four. If that is not punk rock,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. How about the Sonics album?
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  Speaker 1: Here are the Sonics from nineteen sixty five, also way punk.
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  Speaker 1: These albums are punk in sound, if not attitude. But
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  Speaker 1: what about Miles Davis is on the Corner that record
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  Speaker 1: from nineteen seventy two, or John Lennon's Sometime in New
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  Speaker 1: York City, also from seventy two. The attitudes expressed by
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  Speaker 1: these artists on these albums, they're about as subversive as
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  Speaker 1: you'll find on anything by the Ramones or the Clash.
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  Speaker 1: But punk rock as a musical term, it didn't come
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  Speaker 1: into play until after Jerry Lee Lewis and the Sonics
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  Speaker 1: and Miles and John. It didn't come into play until
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  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two, when Lenny Ky used the phrase punk
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  Speaker 1: rock in his liner notes to his Excellent Nuggets compilation.
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  Speaker 1: Now Miriam Webster The Dictionary defines punk rock as rock
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  Speaker 1: music marked by extreme and often deliberately offensive expressions. Of
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  Speaker 1: alienation and social discontent. So by that definition, all of
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  Speaker 1: the albums I mentioned, Jerry Lee Lewis's Star Club, the Sonics,
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  Speaker 1: here are the Sonics, the John Lennon Sometime in New
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  Speaker 1: York City album, even Miles Davis is on the Corner.
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  Speaker 1: All of these, by that definition, could be considered punk rock,
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  Speaker 1: but they're not. And I kind of get it again
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  Speaker 1: to me, the first punk rock album is the Ramones album,
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  Speaker 1: the self titled album from nineteen seventy six. All these
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  Speaker 1: albums came before, and there's a whole host of other
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  Speaker 1: albums that are punk in attitude and in sound but
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  Speaker 1: aren't considered punk. So what are they? What albums by
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  Speaker 1: which artists are punkin attitude, even in sound, but are
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  Speaker 1: not considered punk rock. Johnny Cash at San Quentin, LCD
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  Speaker 1: Sound Systems, Dance Yourself Clean, Peaches, The Teaches of Peaches,
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  Speaker 1: Paul McCartney's ram Tori Amos's Strange Little Girls, Zappa Massive Attack,
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  Speaker 1: Beef Heart. What albums by which artists are punkin attitude
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  Speaker 1: by your estimation, even in sound, but are not considered
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  Speaker 1: punk rock? What do you got? Let me know? Six
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  Speaker 1: one seven nine oh six six six three eight voicemail
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  Speaker 1: and text. This is a fascinating question that I'm hoping
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  Speaker 1: we can dissect and debate here in the after Party
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  Speaker 1: over the coming weeks and coming episodes again six one
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  Speaker 1: seven nine oh six sixty six three eight let me
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  Speaker 1: know which albums are not considered to be punk rock
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  Speaker 1: but that are now None of the albums or artists
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  Speaker 1: that I just mentioned are listed on the new Rolling
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  Speaker 1: Stone list of one hundred Great punk Rock Albums of
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  Speaker 1: All time. This list, I refuse to get upset about it.
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  Speaker 1: I can no longer emotionally attach myself to the monsters
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  Speaker 1: at Rolling Stone Magazine who who create these god forsaken lists.
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  Speaker 1: This one, released two days ago, has been called, among
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  Speaker 1: other things, absolute chaos. And you know that's for those
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  Speaker 1: of us who are you know, less emotionally centered than
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  Speaker 1: I am, I guess, and less susceptible to complete and
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  Speaker 1: total rage bait, which which God damn this list, the
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  Speaker 1: fall Over Circle, Jerks, Turnstile above, Johnny Thunders, Green Day above,
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  Speaker 1: Minor Threat, just listill driving nuts. But I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 1: let it drive me nuts. I'm not now Zeth and
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  Speaker 1: I are going to get into this list, and we're
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  Speaker 1: going to We're going to discuss the insane thinking around
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  Speaker 1: punk rock over at Rolling Stone in the exclusive section
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  Speaker 1: of this after party, and we're also going to get
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  Speaker 1: into the mechanics a little bit to the end of
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  Speaker 1: the mechanics behind these lists, how they're put together. We
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  Speaker 1: and we have some information about how that list came
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  Speaker 1: episode on Anthony bourdein Okay, speaking of punks who weren't punk.
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  Speaker 1: Bourdain wasn't a musician either, but he was a rock star.
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  Speaker 1: So I had to tell this story. And I can't
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  Speaker 1: have not already. It's more of a tribute than it
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  Speaker 1: is an expose. But trust me, you're gonna find it revelatory.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna find it revealing in ways that you won't believe,
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  Speaker 1: even if you've seen every No Reservations episode or if
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  Speaker 1: meat on this bone, pun intended. Now that's coming up
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  Speaker 1: to the Weezer episode of Disgraceland next week, be thinking
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  Speaker 1: about what your favorite album is by a band that
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  Speaker 1: is a total outlier of an album, okay, that is
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  Speaker 1: totally different from anything else in their catalog albums like
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  Speaker 1: Pink Floyd's Metal or Neil Young's Shocking Pinks or Paul
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  Speaker 1: McCartney's Run Devil Run, Metallica's Lulu Even Let Me Know
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  Speaker 1: That's going to be the question of the week for
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  Speaker 2: Back in the flash.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm doing this thing where I'm doing this intermittent
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  Speaker 1: fasting thing. Every day, I stop eating at like eight
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  Speaker 1: o'clock at night, and I don't eat again until noon
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  Speaker 1: the next day. It's now as I record this, eight
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  Speaker 1: minutes to noon, it's eleven fifty two. And what happens
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  Speaker 1: is typically come eleven am, I'm I'm ready to just
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  Speaker 1: kill somebody. I'm so angry because I'm so hungry. But then,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and then I'm gonna eat at twelve that's
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  Speaker 1: the plan. But then twelve comes and my hunger goes away.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy, crazy, and I'm hitting that phase right now,
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  Speaker 1: right now as we're talking. I don't know why I
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  Speaker 1: thought you'd find this interesting, but I did. Anyhow, there
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  Speaker 1: you have it. I'm back. I'm in the phone booth.
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  Speaker 1: It's the one across the hall. You know what I'm doing,
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  Speaker 1: even though I'm hungry, or maybe I'm not hungry anymore.
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  Speaker 1: I can't tell. I'm hanging on the telephone. Let's hear
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  Speaker 1: from you guys, All right, let's hear from D in
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  Speaker 1: the two one four on You guys don't want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about this, and that's fine. You want to keep
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  Speaker 1: talking about the Mount Rushmore of Gone Too Soon artists.
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  Speaker 1: I'm here for it. This is D's take.
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  Speaker 3: Hey Jake, it's D from Dallas, and I'm getting in
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  Speaker 3: with my Gone Too Soon Mount Rushmore and that is
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  Speaker 3: a new winehouse. Chris Cornell, Chester Bennington and of course
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  Speaker 3: Kurt Cobain. Also, have you ever done an episode on
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  Speaker 3: the conspiracy theory behind the Chris Cornell and Chester Bennington
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  Speaker 3: air quote suicide?
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  Speaker 4: Maybe you should?
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  Speaker 5: Bye?
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  Speaker 1: All right? Thank you? Do you think for checking in?
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for giving us your list. I haven't done anything
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  Speaker 1: on the air quote end of life stuff there with
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  Speaker 1: Chris Cornell and Chester Bennington. I have looked into it.
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  Speaker 1: I can't find anything credible that supports the conspiracy theory.
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  Speaker 1: And I know that it is kind of sort of
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  Speaker 1: somewhat in a roundabout way connected to Anthony Bourdain. So
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  Speaker 1: and like I said, that episode is coming up in
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  Speaker 1: the rewind slot in a couple of days, and again
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  Speaker 1: I looked in do it. Didn't find anything credible. If
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  Speaker 1: you found anything credible, keyword credible by all means, send
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  Speaker 1: it to me and I'll look at it with fresh eyes.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks t all Right, let's see what Rick's doing in
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  Speaker 1: three one seven.
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  Speaker 6: Hey Jake, it's Rick three one seven. Love your show.
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  Speaker 6: It's awesome listening to it for years. Yeah. Usually what
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  Speaker 6: I'm doing is just having a cocktail and sitting back
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  Speaker 6: and being informed. But keep doing what you're doing.
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  Speaker 5: I was gonna ask you were going to do a
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  Speaker 5: show maybe on a well larned conspiracy with John McVay,
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  Speaker 5: who had ties in with Monster Magnet, ties in with
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  Speaker 5: queensland Stone Age. So I don't know how much debauchery's
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  Speaker 5: going on that, but uh, with those names you've got
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  Speaker 5: to be souping right. All right, man, you take it easy,
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  Speaker 5: Robert roll.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Let's check out Scott in d five one six.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, Jake, my name is Scott. I listened to every
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  Speaker 4: one of year episodes. I am a quadriplegic that goes
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  Speaker 4: to the Jim daily and I always just know all
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  Speaker 4: your episodes. You speak so fast it took me a
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  Speaker 4: while to write down your number to be typing into
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  Speaker 4: my phone. I'm just saying i'd like to tell you.
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  Speaker 4: One of the greatest tights films I've ever seen, and
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure you've seen it, is The Italian Jump. I
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  Speaker 4: wrote you a text on I want to know what
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  Speaker 4: you think about it again. My name is Scott n
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  Speaker 4: call him from Staten Island, New York five one six
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  Speaker 4: area code. You can use my name and I can't
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  Speaker 4: wait to hear the next one you drop and Gretish
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  Speaker 4: caw trace movie The Blues Brothers No Doubt About It
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  Speaker 4: by Jake.
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  Speaker 1: Scott in the five one six Appreciate you man, good job.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to the gym every day. Jealous. I don't
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  Speaker 1: have that kind of dedication, Okay, Scott, I'm sorry, dude.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't seen the Italian Job. I have not seen
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  Speaker 1: the original, nor have I seen the remake for the
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  Speaker 1: early two thousands. Which one are you referring to?
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  Speaker 2: Though?
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  Speaker 1: The original? Right, guys? Scott's referencing a conversation that Zeth
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  Speaker 1: and I have over in the Hollywood Land feed on.
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  Speaker 1: He's talking about greatest heist movies we're recommending. We're recommending
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  Speaker 1: songs that are that were heist songs. You can check
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  Speaker 1: that out if you're subscribed to Hollywood Land. Sorry to
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  Speaker 1: let you down here, Scott, but thank you because now
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  Speaker 1: you're prompting me to watch this. Who stars in the original?
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  Speaker 2: Who is it?
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  Speaker 1: Is it? Uh? My guy there, Michael Kaine? I think
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  Speaker 1: it is? Or am I thinking of something else? I
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  Speaker 1: should look it up. I'm not going I'm gonna keep
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  Speaker 1: rolling through here. Let's do some texts. We had our
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  Speaker 1: Diddy episodes in the rewind slot a couple of weeks ago.
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  Speaker 1: This text comes from the five to three to oh
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  Speaker 1: do I believe did he did it? My logical mind says,
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  Speaker 1: how could I not? I still haven't seen any evidence
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  Speaker 1: that proves he didn't. He didn't proves that he didn't
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  Speaker 1: do it. She hasn't seen any evidence that proves any other.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, she was not to say.
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  Speaker 1: All we see and hear about is the overwhelming, damning
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  Speaker 1: evidence against him. So yeah, he did it. His mammoth
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  Speaker 1: sized ego couldn't shut up about it. Ha ha, what
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  Speaker 1: a douche. Keep up the good work, Jake. Love your podcast,
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  Speaker 1: Danny C. I tend to agree with you. Last week
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  Speaker 1: we were talking about this David story that's developing out
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  Speaker 1: four VD and the seven to one to three writes
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