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Ep. 71: New Curriculum + OTA’s up Next | Jags A.M. Podcast · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcomeing to JAG xam.
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  Speaker 2: I'm kind Annie Stephens, Brian Sexton, and John Osier are
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  Speaker 2: with me today.
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  Speaker 1: Is we get ready for okas next week.
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  Speaker 2: Rookie Mini camp is behind us, and we didn't learn
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  Speaker 2: this whole lot, but it is always nice to have
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  Speaker 2: people back in the building and get ready for things
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  Speaker 2: to get going this season. Our first big thing today
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  Speaker 2: is pro football one oh one, A little bit of
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  Speaker 2: a teaching thing here today as the rookies came to
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  Speaker 2: the building for the first time last week and got
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  Speaker 2: to try to figure out exactly how this whole pro
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  Speaker 2: thing goes.
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  Speaker 3: Now they're with an NFL club, you know. Right now
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  Speaker 3: they're we're just rookies. And so come Monday, when everybody
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  Speaker 3: starts walking in here, you know, and they start seeing
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  Speaker 3: all the guys, you know, it makes an impact on them.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, there are a lot of these guys,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I see they were they were starters in
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  Speaker 3: college and now they're gonna they're gonna have to take
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  Speaker 3: backup roles and they're going to compete for for starting
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  Speaker 3: positions or at least compete for that backup spot and
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  Speaker 3: and it and it changes just a little bit for
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  Speaker 3: them So this weekend, though, from the meetings to the
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  Speaker 3: on the field stuff, is really going to prepare them
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  Speaker 3: for the next you know, five weeks. I guess that
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  Speaker 3: we're here, Brian.
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  Speaker 2: We talked a little bit about this last week. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: they played big time football. These are high level players
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  Speaker 2: in college, but getting to the NFL is a little
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  Speaker 2: bit different.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, last weekend, Kay, the process took center stage.
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  Speaker 4: You know, where you meet, where you eat, where you
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  Speaker 4: walk to get to the locker room, all of that stuff.
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  Speaker 4: This week is they get onto the field, even though
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  Speaker 4: they're not competing yet, it's about the pros and they're
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  Speaker 4: going to see big, strong and fast. They're going to
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  Speaker 4: see a different level of competition because these are grown
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  Speaker 4: men and they are highly paid and this is about
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  Speaker 4: their livelihood. So that's an interesting transition year to year
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  Speaker 4: from the college kids who were celebrated, who were seen
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  Speaker 4: as the big men on campus, and then they put
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  Speaker 4: their feet here and have to figure it all out.
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  Speaker 5: John, Yeah, I laughed. I saw a story over the
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  Speaker 5: weekend that said some Jaguars rookie was bawling out at
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  Speaker 5: the rookie ging, and I wondered how because there was
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  Speaker 5: no one on ones and there was no seven on seven,
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  Speaker 5: so I guess they were balling out running routes. And
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  Speaker 5: I mean, if you have to write the stories, I'm
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  Speaker 5: not necessarily criticiding the story. But there's a misconception about
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  Speaker 5: what rookie Uni caamp Is Doug said it best. They
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  Speaker 5: were trying to get the rookies to the point where
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  Speaker 5: yesterday when the veterans got here and the rookies walked in,
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  Speaker 5: that the rookies weren't eight steps behind and slowing things down,
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  Speaker 5: and they wanted to give them a chance to compete.
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  Speaker 5: And that's what last weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Was balling out.
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  Speaker 5: We'll get there.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get there soon, John, I promise.
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  Speaker 2: Our second big thing this week is here today is
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  Speaker 2: new curriculum.
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  Speaker 1: Because they're back in school, they.
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  Speaker 2: Got to learn a lot of new things and that
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  Speaker 2: goes for some of the that's as well because of
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  Speaker 2: a new defensive coordinator and his staff.
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  Speaker 1: It's a bit of learning curve for the players.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just a different scheme, right, it's a
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  Speaker 3: different scheme, and and you know you're you're you're switching
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  Speaker 3: gears a little bit from that that three you know
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  Speaker 3: three four mode to to kind of four down mode.
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  Speaker 3: And and even though you spend so much time in
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  Speaker 3: you know four down defense a lot anyway, and I
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  Speaker 3: think some of the techniques are going to be a
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  Speaker 3: little different. Obviously, there's learning with the verbage and terminology linebacker,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the fits, and just the way what I've
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  Speaker 3: seen so far, the way the coaches have have have
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  Speaker 3: coached them, and some of the drill work that they're
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  Speaker 3: doing on the field.
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  Speaker 2: John, We're making a lot about this scheme being totally
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  Speaker 2: different than last year. How difficult is this going to
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  Speaker 2: be to pick up for the defense?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I mean it's it's new. Uh, they're pro football players,
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  Speaker 5: so I anticipate them being able to pick it up.
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  Speaker 5: The dbs. The corners will play more press. Man, it's
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  Speaker 5: not you've never done that before in their lives. Their
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  Speaker 5: cornerbacks and they know how to play football. So it's
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  Speaker 5: a transition. I don't think it should be a transition
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  Speaker 5: that come Week one they have no idea what they're doing,
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  Speaker 5: but they have to work on it all offseason.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of these guys have played together before and
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  Speaker 4: that's where the communication comes, right. Guys like Josh Allen
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  Speaker 4: looking to the back end and looking at a safety
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  Speaker 4: and saying, hey, Cisco, this is.
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  Speaker 6: Where we do this.
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  Speaker 4: The terminology will come and there are some new faces
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  Speaker 4: out there, Ronald Darby, Eric Armstead, But for the most part,
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  Speaker 4: these guys are in the locker room and in the
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  Speaker 4: meeting rooms and on the plane and the bus together
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  Speaker 4: and they'll figure out how to communicate the new verbage
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  Speaker 4: because they know how to communicate with one another.
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  Speaker 2: Our final big thing today is going to be homework complete.
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  Speaker 2: At the end of last season, GM Trent balk And said,
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  Speaker 2: you wanted this team to get bigger, faster, and more physical,
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  Speaker 2: and head coach Doug Peterson addressed some of those new additions,
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  Speaker 2: both from the draft and also free agency.
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  Speaker 3: I think number one, we've gotten a bigger right, just
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  Speaker 3: physically big right, with some of the draft picks and
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  Speaker 3: undrafted guys and even some of our players coming back,
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  Speaker 3: we've gotten bigger.
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  Speaker 1: I think speed.
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  Speaker 3: We've got a tick faster. You know, obviously we know
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  Speaker 3: Brian Speed is a wide receiver, and some of the dbs. Now,
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  Speaker 3: I mean we've gotten faster.
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  Speaker 6: And then when we put.
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  Speaker 3: The pads on in July in August, we'll see where
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  Speaker 3: we are physically.
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  Speaker 2: We got two out of the three checked off, Brian.
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  Speaker 2: When you look at this is how much of this
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  Speaker 2: is going to be mentality And when they go into
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  Speaker 2: training camp and kind of getting that now that they
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  Speaker 2: are bigger, faster, stronger, if you want to put it
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  Speaker 2: that way, to be more physical and use that as
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  Speaker 2: a pro.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know every coach wants to be bigger, faster,
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  Speaker 4: stronger and more physical every year. But you hit on
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  Speaker 4: the keyword there, Kai and that's the mentality. And last
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  Speaker 4: year they just didn't play big in big games. I
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  Speaker 4: think it's a mindset. I'm not sure whether it's preparation.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: They have to be bigger to play better, But to me,
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  Speaker 4: I want to see this team convert from the potential
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  Speaker 4: to the actual, which they didn't do in the biggest
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  Speaker 4: games last year. And so you say, well, you're bigger
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  Speaker 4: and you're stronger. With Eric Armstead, well he also brings
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  Speaker 4: a certain mentality from a championship caliber club. Same thing
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  Speaker 4: with Ronald Darby out on the edge. I mean he
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  Speaker 4: played in a Super Bowl. So these are guys that
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  Speaker 4: bring the mental side of the game into your locker room,
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  Speaker 4: and you don't quantify that on a chart. You just
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  Speaker 4: understand it by the way that they prepare and the way.
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  Speaker 6: That they play.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Doug's headed best also last week. Look,
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  Speaker 5: everybody in the NFL is big and strong, and they
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  Speaker 5: play physically. I think more than anything the theme of
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  Speaker 5: the offseason. Yes, they're a little bigger. I think they
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  Speaker 5: may be a little faster at wide receiver, but they
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  Speaker 5: wanted to be more of a team that in the
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  Speaker 5: last five games of the season when you had to
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  Speaker 5: have a win, they just figured out a way. And
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  Speaker 5: maybe you couldn't even point to it after the game
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  Speaker 5: and say why they won, but they could take a
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  Speaker 5: game by the throat. I think Doug want anything withou
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  Speaker 5: like a team that's raw. You know that that's the
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  Speaker 5: intangible you want. You know, I'm gonna grab it and
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  Speaker 5: take over and maybe you roar a little bit around.
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  Speaker 1: Here, Kay, little rar, I'm dressed for it.
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  Speaker 4: Was just about to say, between your dress, Ki and
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  Speaker 4: that roar, we are certainly in costume today.
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  Speaker 1: Let's do it. Stay with us after the break, more roaring,
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  Speaker 1: more roaring.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to jag Zam this morning.
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  Speaker 2: As you had Mini camp last week, I know that's
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  Speaker 2: your favorite activity of the year, you guys, But we
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  Speaker 2: do a VOKS coming up, which is exciting to get
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  Speaker 2: everybody back in the building and kind of feels a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more like football. And then training camp is here,
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  Speaker 2: which that's a whole other thing. So let's talk a
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  Speaker 2: little bit about mini camp. We got to see some
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  Speaker 2: of these rookies for the very first time. Obviously, Brian Thomas,
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  Speaker 2: the first round pick, was out there running routes, probably
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  Speaker 2: killing it as they would say, you know, John probably
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  Speaker 2: has some other verbal balling out.
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  Speaker 5: And Brian Thomas did look I mean, in mini camp,
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  Speaker 5: you want guys to look the part. Mason Smith looked
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  Speaker 5: bigger than everybody else and looked more physical than everybody else,
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  Speaker 5: and Brian Thomas looked faster and looked like he was
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  Speaker 5: touched by God more than anybody else on the field
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  Speaker 5: in terms of playing that position. Jarvis Lander, who was
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  Speaker 5: in for a tryout, said he he's got elite talent.
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  Speaker 5: You can see it. He's quicker, catches, the ball cleaner,
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  Speaker 5: all those things that you want to see a guy
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  Speaker 5: when he's running routes on air. So, Brian, you've heard
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  Speaker 5: the same analogy I've heard for years. What you don't
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  Speaker 5: want is the GM and scouts walking out going and
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  Speaker 5: I didn't since you saw any of that. We'll see
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  Speaker 5: more this week.
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  Speaker 4: When you look at him, there's no chance that you
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  Speaker 4: could be anything other than entus.
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  Speaker 6: Just his length stands out to me.
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  Speaker 4: And and when you see a shot of his legs,
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  Speaker 4: how long his legs are, and you.
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  Speaker 6: Look the part.
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  Speaker 4: Now, get in and learn it and be ready to
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  Speaker 4: go so that you can make a contribution in training.
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  Speaker 1: Camp play the part for sure.
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  Speaker 2: You mentioned Mason Smith John Uh, he's one of those
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  Speaker 2: uh that tecond round pick for us that physically is
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  Speaker 2: one of those players that Trent Palky is very excited
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  Speaker 2: to get out here. He spoke after practice a little
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  Speaker 2: bit and about what he's most excited about.
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  Speaker 7: I always been accustomed to hard work, man, just having
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  Speaker 7: having to see my mother, you know, she's a family
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  Speaker 7: pediatrician doctor. Seeing her work, you know, early morning is
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  Speaker 7: long night. Seeing my father work in the field for
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  Speaker 7: thirty plus years. Man, I'm accustomed to so you know
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  Speaker 7: I never really shy await the p no matter what
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  Speaker 7: I ever went through, man. And uh, you know, the
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  Speaker 7: cream always rides to the cr I mean, the cream
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  Speaker 7: always rights to the top, man. And you know, i'ma
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  Speaker 7: just keep my head down and keep working and continue
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  Speaker 7: to progress.
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  Speaker 1: Man. That's all I can think of.
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  Speaker 2: Hard worker, exactly what you wanna hear, especially going into
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  Speaker 2: OTA in training camp around the corner. They're banking a
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  Speaker 2: lot on him, kind of rebounding from that injury that
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  Speaker 2: he suffered when he had an ACL. Terry played last year,
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  Speaker 2: wasn't quite all the way back, but they're hoping now
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  Speaker 2: that he's fully recovered, we'll see a different player.
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  Speaker 4: When you look at him, you see a guy that
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  Speaker 4: you want on your team. And then when you hear
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  Speaker 4: him talk about mother being a pediatrician, dad working in
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  Speaker 4: the oil fields, which we all know is a tough, rough,
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  Speaker 4: blue collar job, it gives you a lot of background
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  Speaker 4: information on how the kid was raised, and so it
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  Speaker 4: gives you a lot of opportunity, a lot of hope
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  Speaker 4: that he's going to come in here and apply that
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  Speaker 4: towards being who he was before the injury in twenty
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  Speaker 4: twenty two.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's been some buzz, Oh why they picked that guy.
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  Speaker 5: He was hurt in college. Look the ACL. It happened
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  Speaker 5: in early twenty twenty two. The common comeback from that
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  Speaker 5: is difficulty coming back. First year, maybe a little slow,
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  Speaker 5: started to come out of it, and then by year
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  Speaker 5: the second year after an ACL, anybody will tell you
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  Speaker 5: a young guy below the age of about twenty five
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  Speaker 5: or twenty six, there's no reason in the world this
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  Speaker 5: day and age, they don't return to full potential. He
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  Speaker 5: was dominant when he was a freshman, and you can
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  Speaker 5: see the size all that stuff. To me, this, you know,
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  Speaker 5: is it the turning point of the draft? Probably? I
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  Speaker 5: mean it's probably what the draft. It can turn the
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  Speaker 5: draft either into great or if he's not good, it's eh.
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  Speaker 5: But all second round picks are short of a crapshoot.
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  Speaker 5: If you get a guy who you think might be dominant,
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  Speaker 5: there another wrong with a pick on that.
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  Speaker 2: Front to me, when as well risk it of course,
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  Speaker 2: and as he's mentioned, obviously a hard worker, and I
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  Speaker 2: think now he trusts that. I think you mentioned earlier
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  Speaker 2: that kind of that trust factor. You're not sure if
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  Speaker 2: your need's going to give. So now that he has
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  Speaker 2: that back, hopefully he'll be able to get back to
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  Speaker 2: his freshman year form. We also heard from his former
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  Speaker 2: defensive coordinator now linebacker coach here Matt House. He was
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  Speaker 2: at LA of course three picks from LSU coming here,
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  Speaker 2: but that House actually weighed in a little bit on
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  Speaker 2: Brian Thomas because going up against him in practice every day,
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  Speaker 2: it was certainly difficult.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: BT's got I mean, really good length, obviously elite speed.
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  Speaker 8: He's a matchup problem and he can go up and
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  Speaker 8: get the ball. So you know, in particular last year
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  Speaker 8: at LSU when we were dB short, he was a tough,
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  Speaker 8: tough matchup.
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  Speaker 2: Johnn I know we haven't seen a ton from Binding
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  Speaker 2: Thomas yet, but it's exciting to see that kind of
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  Speaker 2: have that option for Trevor and also a wide receiver
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  Speaker 2: that can maybe grow with Trevor a little bit right,
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  Speaker 2: Like he's had some veteran presence, but now a younger player,
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  Speaker 2: this drafted hero'll be here for the next however many
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  Speaker 2: years to grow with him.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, he comes into a nice situation. He doesn't have
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  Speaker 5: to be the best receiver immediately. Christian Kirk's perfectly capable
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  Speaker 5: of be in it. He didn't have to be the
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  Speaker 5: go to guy Evan ingers for the cable doing that,
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  Speaker 5: so he can immediately give the team a wrinkle and
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  Speaker 5: have time to develop. I've said many times since he
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  Speaker 5: got drafted. There before the drift, there were three elite receivers,
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  Speaker 5: and out of the rest of them, the analysts thought
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  Speaker 5: that he had the best chance to eventually develop into one.
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  Speaker 5: The mean, he's going to be it immediately. He can
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  Speaker 5: give them Brian Deep the threat, jump ball threat while
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  Speaker 5: he's developing into an overall player.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 4: I shared this after the draft, But to Cortez Hankton,
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  Speaker 4: who was an undrafted rookie year back in two thousand
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  Speaker 4: and three, is his position coach and was his position
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  Speaker 4: coaching offensive coordinated at LSU, told me he's the most
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  Speaker 4: physically gifted receiver he's ever coached, and he obviously coached
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  Speaker 4: at Georgia before LSU, so that tells you the caliber
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  Speaker 4: of athletes that he's accustomed to.
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  Speaker 6: Said, he's one of my guys.
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  Speaker 4: Guy will get after it, but physically gifted in a
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  Speaker 4: way that you just haven't.
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  Speaker 6: You have difficulty drawing it up. It just shows up like.
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  Speaker 5: That, and again it's routes on air, but he just
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  Speaker 5: makes everything looks easy. I mean, you have things that
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  Speaker 5: are hard for other players trying to make the NFL
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  Speaker 5: as without you thinking about it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, something that Howse said is that it's he's a
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  Speaker 4: difficult matchup, and we're a matchup league where you're trying
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  Speaker 4: to create this matches.
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  Speaker 6: It's different than in college football.
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  Speaker 4: So you know they're gonna find that other teams or
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  Speaker 4: other teams are gonna find that it's tough to have
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  Speaker 4: a corner who is as big and long as he is,
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  Speaker 4: and if he's as fast and physical as we've heard kai,
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  Speaker 4: it'll be a great pack.
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  Speaker 2: Excited to see him and Trevor kind of figure it
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  Speaker 2: out and get going. That'll be definitely fun to see.
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  Speaker 2: And also we should mention in the wide receiver room
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  Speaker 2: Jarvis Landry and for a tryout. So he was part
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  Speaker 2: of that rookie mini campu miss last year due to injury,
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  Speaker 2: but he's been around for quite some time, and he
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  Speaker 2: talked a little bit about what it was important for
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  Speaker 2: him and just coming back to football.
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  Speaker 8: It was stressful. It was stressful, you know, I learned
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  Speaker 8: a lot about the man, you know, and getting healthy
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  Speaker 8: and things like that. Spending more time with family kept
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  Speaker 8: me ground it. You know, had a good support system.
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  Speaker 8: But you know, it's always it's always good to be
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  Speaker 8: back out here.
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  Speaker 5: John.
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  Speaker 1: What do we see from from Jews out there?
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  Speaker 2: Because obviously Jarvis Landry has been around, he's done it
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  Speaker 2: for a while. He was with injury and to kind
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  Speaker 2: of come back with that appreciation, but also the skill
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  Speaker 2: set had he has.
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  Speaker 5: You could tell who the veteran was. He was precise
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  Speaker 5: to me, he looked quick, particularly for his age. You know,
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  Speaker 5: I don't necessarily know that they brought him in thinking
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  Speaker 5: we have to sign him immediately in order to have
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  Speaker 5: him on the team. I think they wanted to give
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  Speaker 5: him the opportunity. They wanted to see what it was
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: and then perhaps as time moves on, now you know
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: a little bit more about a guy. Doug said beforehand, Look,
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: it's a tryout and that's what it is. Cold he
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: would you feel fine putting Jarvis Lander in an NFL
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: game right now and having him get you through a
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: couple of weeks where somebody else isn't isn't performing for
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: you as an available Sure? Is he a frontline starter.
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: You know, I'm not sure anybody thinks that right now.
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: It's a young man's game, and it's hard for guys
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: who have been to five Pro Bowls to let go.
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: And clearly he has decided and he's not ready to
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: let this one go, So it made sense for him
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: to come. And I would think that at some point
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: later in the season if they don't like any of
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: the five undrafted rookies that they signed, right they stacked
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: up on these guys for camp and you have an
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: injury like last year with a Jones right where you
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: were just you were lacking any sort of significant depth
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: at that position and it hurt the passing game. Well,
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: then you've got a guy on speed dial if he's
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: not anywhere else that you can go and bring in,
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: and you have a book on him now. But they
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: went heavy in.
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: The pain.
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: On wide receiver.
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: They're going for it, and so those young guys come
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: in as developmental guys. And really that's where the roster
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: spots are. The practice squad spots are in Jacksonville for receivers.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: With that room as expensive and as draft capital has
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: been put into it.
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: And Jarvis also made the comment he has to figure
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: out if this is something he wants to do sure
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: and completely commit to it. I'm not to say that
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: privy those conversations, but you know I at this stage
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: of careers, that's the verbid you hear is is and
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: I say, oh my goodness, I have to go get this.
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: It's I have to find the right fit. I have
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: to decide this is what I wanna do. Uh So
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: that's what a tryout you Well.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: If you didn't, you probably couldn't next, right, being one
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: year out, two years out not not not as many
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: opportunities for those guys.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: We've also seen that before though obviously you know veteran
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: players coming in around training camp, getting into training camp,
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: maybe like this is kind of f going a couple
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: games in, like figuring out this is kind of the
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: end of things. So whether that'll be the situation for him,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: or whether things will work out and he'll get picked
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: up either here or somewhere else, we'll remains to be seen.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Stay with us here on Jagsam though. Coming up, we're
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: gonna go over some ozone mail bag questions and get
• 17:42
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• 17:53
  Speaker 1: It's officially licensed everything. Oh zone rolling in. We're gonna
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: get our questions answered by John.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: He's so wise, he has all of that wisdom in
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: there and that nugget of top.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing with us, John.
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: No problem, make no sense.
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: Any sarcasm there?
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: Oh that's second.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: When Mike from azas he has a question about Gabe
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Davis's injury that Doug alluded to in his press conference
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: last week, he says, is Gabe Davis still recovering from
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: an injury that he suffered while he was still with
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills. Why would you when you sign a
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: free agent? Isn't it pending up passing a physical? Did
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: the Jags not check gave out physically? Why wouldn't you
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: disclose the injury at that time? There's a lot of questions,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: more than one question in this or is this a
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: new injury that no one wants to take the blame for.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I'm confused.
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: Well, Mike came in, and Mike came in kind of hot. Yes,
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: Gabe Davis was hurt in the last game of the
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: season last year and didn't play in the playoffs. They
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: knew it. I don't think it's as uncommon as perhaps
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: Mike believed, and they knew this is gonna be the
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: situation coming in. H. He's a veteran. Yes, they have
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: an idea where the knee injury is. It wasn't disclosed
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: because there was nothing to disclose, so H, I anticipate
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: that he'll be ready to go in training camp. And uh,
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: you know Darius Williams first year here a couple of
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: years back, remember, didn't participate until I think training camp. Uh,
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: it's pretty common.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Eric Harp said as well, the background injury, So it's
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: very common.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Let's check it.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: As I said to Mike, breathe, it's met.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: It's okay, We're okay. We're getting a little lamp up,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: all right.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Sean from Oakley, if wanted to know, when will be
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: the first opportunity for the Jaguars to practice that new
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: kickoff rule simulating game conditions obviously, because they can't go
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: against each other right now at this stage.
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: Well practice they'll get a chance to simulate it. And
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: you know there's different levels they can do. In OTAs,
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: they can do everything except hit each other while doing it.
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: In training camp, they can get helmets on and actually
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: hit each other while doing it, and then you can
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: really simulate in a preseason game. This one, to me,
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: Brian feels like they're going to have some theories on
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: how it's going to look. Everybody's going to have their approach,
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: and then starting in preseason is when you're gonna see
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: what the league always does, which is, hey, this guy's
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: doing this, and start copying it. It will homogenize once
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: the preseason games.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, you have thirty two different special teams coordinators
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: sixty four if you count their assistant special teams score.
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: In ninety six if you count the other it's right.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: And they all have different ideas and they've collaborated to help.
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: The league come to the conclusion of what the rule
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: could be.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: But everybody's going to have a different spin on it,
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: so it'll be interesting to see a month or two
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: into the season who's really good at it.
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: But it was an interesting question because there has been
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: a lot of conversation as soon as this thing came
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: into being. Remember it wasn't put in until the owners meeting,
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: so they really didn't attack free agency that much with
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: this thing in mind. So all of a sudden, the
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: draft becomes a and they had to talk amongst themselves
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: and figure out what everybody else is doing. I'm sure
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: different special teams coaches are talking to each other, but
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: then not given away too much of what they're going
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: to do.
• 21:11
  Speaker 9: So it's going to be an interesting rules change. I'm
• 21:13
  Speaker 9: excited about it because we all should be. The kickoffs
• 21:15
  Speaker 9: went away and this is a clever, innovative way to
• 21:18
  Speaker 9: bring it back. And if this goes well, maybe they'll
• 21:21
  Speaker 9: come up with the way that is that the XFL does.
• 21:24
  Speaker 9: The on tide kick was fourth and ten from your
• 21:27
  Speaker 9: twenty five high risk, you know, because on tide kicks
• 21:30
  Speaker 9: have gone away too, and that was always a fun
• 21:32
  Speaker 9: part of the game when games got close.
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: Hopefully this leads to something like that.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: We'll have to see how the things go, but I
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: am excited to see it in game action for sure.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Our final question for you John a little bit broader
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: of a question from Bob and Bobsville. Of course, confidence
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: is key, particularly in the NFL. Confidence grows through success,
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: but even the most confident player can be shaken by
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: too many failures. It takes a season to get used
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: to the NFL and meaningfully contribute. Why does so many
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: teams put rookies or young players and sit your in
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: which they're likely to fail.
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: Well, this was sort of a quarterbacks based question, but
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: I think I think it sort of applies to other
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: positions as well. Yeah, you would love I think most teams,
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: most coaches would tell you most rookies, it would be
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: great if they had a year to develop, and realistically,
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: that's sort of what happens. Everybody wants to see rookies
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: contribute immediately, and some do. But for the most part,
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: if there's what you know, three hundred and fifty players
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: in the rookie class, you're gonna get a few that
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: make a huge impact. Most of them are really ready
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: to be big time players or you know, real contributions
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: at the end of the season. Why don't they wait?
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: Because it's a win now league.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: Well, and for way back, the cyburkept change the game.
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: It used to be you bring guys in and they
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: could play behind an established veteran. But now with as
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: much money is committed to players, you can't keep all
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: your veterans. Free agency takes them away. And so now
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: in the last three years since free agency has become
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: a really important part of building a team, they need
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: rookies to step in because they lose guys.
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: And the dynamic has become the way it's set up now.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: It's necessary, but it also causes way too much early
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: criticism of a lot of young players. Now the development
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: that used to take place sort of behind the scenes
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: takes place as rookies. So whenever there is a mistake, oh,
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: it's the worst he's the worst player I've ever seen,
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: when in reality, a lot of these guys always go
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: back to Reggie Wayne, who played seven games as a rookie,
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: did not give any indication that he was going to
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: be good, and then by his third or fourth years
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: a Pro Bowl and it might be in the Hall
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: of Fame. Reggie wasn't a bad player as a rookie.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: He was a young player who needed some more time.
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: So that we now get to watch the rough draft,
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: and it can be rough on these guys when they're
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: criticized for.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: It, certainly as it's not an easy thing and taking
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: that time to get used to the NFL. As we're
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: seeing those rookies get in the building this week their
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: first week kind of practicing off season with some of
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: the vet players, so we'll get to see what that
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: looks like in OTAs.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Stay with us on jags Aam.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: We'll be right here after the break. Welcome back into
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: jags Am here if we're getting ready for OTAs next
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: week and kind of finally getting back into football a
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: little bit. I did want to bring back our jags
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Am off season to do list cause they started this
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: a couple of months ago. That's just what we know.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: We've discussed on JAGSAM them some things we wanted to
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: go over cause I do want to give them credit.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: We can check a couple of things off. I'm very
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: I'm a list person. I have the post sits all this,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: so I want to keep track of things. So that's
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen figured out. That was the big number one
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: thing for me for sure. Addressing the line issues. We'll
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: have to see how this ends up, but they seem
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: to have addressed it as much as they're going to
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: address it. They have a new center in the building,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: signing Ezra Cleveland long term and whatever they're going to
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: try to do with some of the backups in terms
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: of rookies and what they had last year in Cooper Hodges,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: adding some depth on defense. We did see some additions there,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: some big additions there, and then what I have left
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: is pay Trevor question mark. As we saw that deal
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: with Jared Goff got done yesterday, so maybe now Trevor's
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: looking at that, maybe coming up in the next week months,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: however many days, and then getting that new defense up
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: to speed with their new defensive staff and defensive coordinator.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: You guys, if you want anything on the list, let
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: me know. You know, I love to stay organized.
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: Now, so far, so good, and I think both things
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: you too, you know, get new defensive to speed's gonna
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: happy is what they're gonna be doing the next few months.
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: I'd be surprised if Trevor doesn't get down before the season.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: But we'll say, I keep hearing that they're working at
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: it and that it's likely to happen, but no date.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Sure, well, we'll be keeping an eye and our ears
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: open for that as well. Next week OTAs and we'll
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: get that schedule lease that's coming out on Wednesday, So
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: lots to talk about. Make sure you check in with
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: us next week here on jags Am