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More Conference Expansion? A look at Week 1 of College Football, Eliot Clough talks Hawkeyes, NFL Cut Day · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  All right, good afternoon. Welcome Miller and Condon On a
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  Wednesday. The Iowa Sports Radio Network
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  back for the next 6 hours of Iowa based programming.
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  Trent Condon, myself, Ken Miller will kick things off and take
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  you until 2O clock off the bench with Sean and Lucas coming up
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  two until 5 overtime Iowa. After that for the next couple
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  of hours, here's who's going to join Trent and myself as I
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  refresh my memory when it comes to the guest list.
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  We are. We're going to start with
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  Elliott Clef, who was obviously at the Hawkeye press conferences
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  yesterday listening to Kirk Ference name his starting left
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  tackle. We will get to pick his brain on
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  the the players and what the head coach had to say in
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  anticipation of a massive game against Albany coming up here on
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  Saturday. It's a 5:00 kick on the Big 10
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  Network have at BTNFS. 1. FS1 picked it up.
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  But anyways, we will talk to Elliott Clef on the Hawks and
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  what he he expects to see play, how he expects to see the season
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  play out. Mitch Holt is going to join us
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  today and tomorrow. That'll be the final of the
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  daily reports with Mitch and then we'll get him weekly
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  throughout the regular season with the exception of the bye
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  weeks. But we'll talk to Mitch Holtis.
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  Papa John's central Iowa and the state of Iowa make that
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  possible. David Kaplan is here.
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  It's Wednesday after all, so Cappy will join us.
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  The Bears as every team has, has made their cuts.
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  The roster now sets at 53. They will be making some
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  addition to practice squads here, etcetera, and hoping some
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  of the guys they try to sneak through survive, as every team
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  will do, so they can add them to those practice squads.
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  But Cappy on the Bears and on the Cubs, who fell again last
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  night out on the West Coast to San Francisco.
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  And then Stephen M Sipple from on three media
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  huskerillustrated.com the Huskers and Cincinnati Little
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  Big 10 Big 12 crossover tomorrow night. 8:00 Arrowhead Stadium is
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  the scene for that one. That game will can be seen on
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  ESPN, but sip will be here to help us with that one and the
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  latest on Nebraska and how the season is going to play out.
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  For those of you over in the western part of the state or you
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  Husker France fans sprinkled throughout the state of Iowa.
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  How are you Mr. by the way? Yeah, you added tennis to your
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  portfolio yesterday. Unfortunately it was one of my
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  only wins of yesterday, so you. You made me follow tennis for
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  crying out loud. But so I don't know that guy his
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  name, but you're obviously very well versed in tennis.
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  So I'm guessing we can expect more tennis plays as the US Open
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  continues on here. Lots of lots of different places
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  where you can start. I guess I want to start with,
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  did you see Brett Mcmurphy's piece today?
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  I did. What can we not?
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  Can we just get through a College Football Playoff or a
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  college football season? Can we have this in June?
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  Or may yes, you know, even July anything anytime.
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  But why do we have to expansions back on the table, according to
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  the athletic director at the University of Maryland, who
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  needs to shut up? Absolutely.
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  Pipe sound. You're a bit part.
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  Sit in the corner, speak when spoken to.
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  You're Maryland's AD, yes. You're not Michigan.
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  No, you're not Penn State. You're not Ohio State.
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  You're not. Movers, we'll come to you when
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  it's your turn and maybe we won't come to you at all.
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  But and I'm guessing, you know, he didn't get clearance to be
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  the one that develops, developed this information, put it out
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  there for the public to consume. And we're apparently going to a
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  20 team big 10 in 2030, which is just the first domino.
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  If that's the case, you know that the next domino is going to
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  fall. I don't know what it means.
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  I just I'm sick of it. I'm so glad I'm going to be
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  retired for all of this when it when it all plays itself out.
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  I truly am. I love it now.
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  It was better before. I get it.
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  It's money and it's, it's, it's the be all end all.
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  But anyways, it disappoints me. Yeah, 'cause I don't know where
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  our friends in, in Story County will end up.
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  And that's maybe as big of a a concern for me as anything,
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  'cause I don't want to see them relegated to a, a lesser
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  conference. I don't I, I truly don't.
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  They've been great for everybody's career that does
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  what we do. So anyways, I I was just
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  disappointed. What were your thoughts I guess?
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  It's what I felt. You've been saying it for years,
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  yeah. I mean, I've been having this
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  tune now for the better part of 15 years that this is
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  inevitable, that this is where everything has been trending.
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  And we've seen over the last three years how it's getting
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  more and more likely that this is going to be the reality of
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  college football, that it's going to be two super leagues.
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  And then what happens with that leftover thirdly and how that
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  sits if it's 20, if it's 24, whatever the final number is for
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  the Big 10 and the FCC, it is the reality.
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  That is where we are trending and and love it or hate it.
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  And it depends maybe on what side you're rooting for, loving
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  and hating it. It is the reality.
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  This is where we're going. I don't know if it's going to be
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  in 2032. I don't know if it's going to be
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  in 20-40. But I think this is the end game
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  that everybody has to anticipate.
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  And what you hope is if that does happen, that there is still
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  a place that it doesn't become only 40 or 48 teams, that there
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  is still a seat at the table like the Group of Five has right
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  now, that there's still an opportunity for the leftovers.
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  And so would this be a football? Only move, I think.
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  So I think that's what it is. Basketball is too good.
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  And I just saw, I think ESPN, I think it yeah, it was their
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  bracketology yesterday. They had an updated 114 teams
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  from the SEC, 11 from the Big 10, eight from the Big 12.
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  Piggies had a handful, handful for the ACC and that was.
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  It so the big 10s needles pointing up again.
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  This is, again, Bracketology in Hawkins, so take it with a grain
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  of salt. It was just more than anything.
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  And a lot of those teams, Iowa was one of the last teams in.
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  I think Indiana was one of the last teams in.
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  That's kind of the component that you had.
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  But that aside, this consolidation of power,
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  football's it's own separate entity and the NCAA does not put
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  on a football championship. This is the athletic directors
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  to put on the football championship.
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  So yes, that's what I believe is going to look like.
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  Will there be an opportunity though?
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  Because when you water it down to that level and you have a
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  league of leftovers, if you will, what does that league?
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  Is it just one spot? Is it like what the group of
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  five is? And then what happens to the
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  group of five that we know it really is Iowa State in with the
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  Boise's and the Memphis's of the world or the leftover ACC's, the
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  leftover big twelves, maybe a couple of those Memphis's and
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  Boise's and there is 1/3 viable. Conference.
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  Do any Big 10 SCC teams get left behind when this happens?
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  I don't think so because he still need else you still you
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  do. It's just the way you put it.
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  I'm not laughing at your your take.
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  You need Vanderbilt, you need Purdue.
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  You need those programs, Mississippi State in your league
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  because he can't play the gauntlet every single time.
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  So I don't believe that we're going to see what some people
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  think is out there, that we're going to see the consolidation
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  and Yep, you're out. I don't believe that's going to
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  happen because you're still scheduling and still having at
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  least a couple of wins in there all the way that it looks like.
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  But that's when we look towards that future 5/10/20 years down
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  the line, if there's still a seat, if there's still an
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  opportunity and it becomes FC at BS level.
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  Excuse me, I'm like 75 teams. I have a state's fine, sure, but
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  if it is 48 only. Well, it's just the state of
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  five. It has nothing to do with the
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  program. The program is obviously it can
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  play football. It's the state that we reside
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  in. It's just not big enough to have
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  two I don't think, unfortunately.
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  But you in a bad mood. I did.
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  That just pissed me off When I read it this morning.
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  I almost didn't want to click on it.
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  Then I knew it was too important to just bypass it, put my head
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  in the sand and forget about it anyways, because college
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  football starts tomorrow. It's a hell of a slate tomorrow.
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  Night. It really and truly is.
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  I love the fact that, you know, we're getting teams that matter.
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  You know, Iowa and Iowa State don't play, but teams that are
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  about to play in the upcoming three months do.
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  So you what? For that reason, you get a look
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  at Minnesota and you get a look at how do you say his name?
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  Perch Perich, the safety that's going to play both ways.
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  And there's a lot of steam coming in on him.
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  Remember, this time last year, Travis Hunter was what, 80 to
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  one? Yes, to win the Heisman.
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  Not saying the parish is going to.
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  You can get coy at 100 to one right now at Circa.
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  Is he really is, for those of you so inclined.
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  So you'll get to see Minnesota, you'll get to see Wisconsin.
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  Are as they as bad as I think or are they okay like Trent thinks?
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  Rutgers early on. They play at 5:00.
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  Rutgers plays at 5:00. And they play the last game.
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  Week of September, that's week one of the Big 10, right?
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  Yep. So that would be the 27th.
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  Well. It's a Friday night game O26
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  there, so we'll get. Rutgers and I will play on
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  Friday night. Yeah, I'm.
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  Supposed to work at Prairie. On the 19th Oh the. 19th I'm
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  good, I'm out, you're good anyways.
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  And then Nebraska and Cincinnati and Sip's going to be here to
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  help us out with that one. Just the Bearcats we will get,
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  we'll talk to Sip about this. Are you buying the Bearcats kind
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  of elevating their stand, their place in the Big 12 this year?
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  I think is this a team to will we be at any point this year
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  when we're talking about the parody in the Big 12 and who may
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  or may not, Well, either one of us say, well, don't forget about
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  Cincinnati. I like them.
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  I don't love them. I there's two teams, I think in
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  the Big 12 when you're looking outside of the ones.
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  Outside the ones. OK, who are they?
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  It's Houston and Cincinnati. Houston, yes.
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  Those are the two teams that I'm most intrigued by this season
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  so. You're not alone, by the way, on
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  Houston. When you look at Cincinnati
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  Soresby, he's played a lot of. Football.
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  He's played a lot of football. So you kind of start with that
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  component. This is a guy that's been out
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  there a ton. He's taken a lot of snaps.
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  The question for them is offensive line and they can run
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  it and it gets a new front in Nebraska.
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  I think they're going to be OK. The Soresby last year, 65%,
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  eighteen touchdowns, 7 picks. Year before that, 15 touchdowns,
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  5 interceptions and he runs. He had 9 rushing touchdowns last
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  year, almost 500 yards on the ground.
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  Remember, sacks are also a part of it in college football.
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  I like Soresby. I think at minimum he is solid.
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  So those are the teams. They're deep, dark horses, both
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  Houston and Cincinnati, but they're on my they're ahead of
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  the Colorados. They're ahead of even teams like
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  BYU for me. So you don't like Colorado?
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  I do not I got to see it. And you don't like BYU?
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  I don't, you know, prior to Ratzlaf having sex, this was the
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  team that was on a lot of people's.
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  This team can absolutely win the conference.
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  Oh yeah, and absolutely win. I was never there.
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  I wasn't there, but it was the team that was in that
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  conversation type of thing. I don't know.
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  I mean, I guess, I guess we'll see, obviously, but there's
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  still a lot of BYU love out there.
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  We had a guy called me during the break yesterday, said he's
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  all over the BYU win over win total Dylan Ryola.
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  When we go back to this game now, he's got whole go for a
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  whole year. Yep.
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  I think it makes a difference. Went through spring, went
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  through summer. We saw him last year down the
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  back half of the year. He was OK.
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  Yep. He was not the guy that we saw,
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  though, early in the season, certainly against you and I
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  against Illinois, even in that loss, and he missed a couple of
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  plays in that game. That was that, the overtime
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  game, Yes. Yeah, he missed, absolutely.
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  And taking the sack when he can't take a sack.
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  That was bad at the end, but statistically he was good in
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  that game. Does that hold up?
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  Does that continue? Are we going to see another
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  level of ascension for him and an offensive line that's got
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  some new faces? Yeah.
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  They got new receivers. New receivers and they spent,
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  yeah, they did. They went out in the portal and
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  they spent big time to help out and give him weapons.
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  Another thing that jumped off to me when I was going through the
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  Nebraska depth chart the other night was this is overall a
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  pretty young team. Are they?
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  I wonder. I think there's still a bowl
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  team. I think they're seven and five
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  type of team. So they've come down a little
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  bit before you had them. Could no that's I I8.
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  And four, seven and five, that's where I've been really the whole
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  time. But when people are talking
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  about this jump and rule in year #3 and it's the conversation.
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  It is part of his history. I can understand why they're
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  talking. But he also did it in Temple,
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  and he did it at Baylor. Baylor when Baylor was down.
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  In this Big 10, if the expectation is we're going to be
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  in content, we're going to go to November with a shot.
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  If that's too much for a team that is this young, that would
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  be my question that I still have for Nebraska.
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  Because the guys, they're going to look the part.
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  But guess what? They always look the part.
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  They they always look good. It's what happens.
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  No 60 minutes and well, usually in the last couple of minutes
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  they find ways to lose. Yeah, really.
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  Boy, they have shot themselves in the foot, haven't they?
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  Their schedule, There's their Big 10 schedule, home to
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  Michigan. Tough game.
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  By the way, Boyd Underwood does not lack for confidence.
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  Did you see some of his quotes? There's the college football has
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  never seen a freshman like me. Good, that's what he said.
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  Their schedule is pretty easy too, by the way.
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  Michigan's is. I got to look at that in a
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  second. Michigan, Michigan State at home
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  at Maryland, at Mini Northwestern, home, USC at home
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  to UCLA to Penn State and then Iowa.
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  I want to find Michigan's schedule.
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  Obviously, we know where the final game of the conference is,
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  but prior to that, their Big 10 slate at Nebraska, as we
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  mentioned, home to Wisconsin, at USC, home to Washington,
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  Michigan State, Purdue, Northwestern, Maryland.
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  How about that four-game? Well, you know, to remove
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  Michigan State, I think they're going to be better.
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  If they find a way to win at least one of those two Rd. games
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  early on at Nebraska or at USC. Yeah, look out.
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  I agree. They're going to the playoff in
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  all likelihood. There's no Penn State, no,
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  there's no Oregon and Ohio States and Ann Arbor this year.
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  Wow, I didn't realize it was that soft.
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  That three-game stretch to begin November home to Purdue at
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  Northwestern at Maryland. If that's not 3 and O.
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  You can't sign up for anything better.
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  You can't. And there's even a bye week in
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  there between the. Purdue and I just realized that,
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  yeah, the second week of November, there's bye, bye,
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  we'll see. God, it's so much fun to talk
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  about schedules and games and look ahead.
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  And away we go as the show moves to autopilot for the next four
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  months. So of the big spotlight games
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  this weekend, Texas, Ohio State, LSU, Clemson and Notre Dame,
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  Miami, Those three can. I put North Carolina TCU in
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  there stand alone game Of the three you're going to, I can
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  only watch one or which one I'd be which one?
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  Which one kind of gets your juices flowing the most?
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  Oh man. I mean the easy answer and one
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  of the polls is number one versus number.
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  Two it is, yes. With Ohio State, Texas, but, but
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  they don't play. Any of our of our our quote, our
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  teams. Yeah, I'm different that one.
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  Like I just care. I'm not.
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  No, I'm with you. I'm with you now.
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  Selfishly, it'll probably be LSU, Clemson, because I'm so
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  heavily invested in Clemson. The Notre Dame game is
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  interesting for one reason. They don't have a lot of tough
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  games. Their schedule's a joke.
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  It it it they don't have a lot of tough games.
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  I know you picked them to get to the national championship.
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  They've got Miami Week 1, Texas A&M Week 2.
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  And they have a buy before the A&M game.
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  Oh come on, they get a buy after this game.
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  Yeah, because it's on Sunday so instead of having just 6K it.
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  Was State K State flew back from Dublin for crying out loud.
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  It's Notre Dame. It's a joke.
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  Join a league. Join a league.
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  They're never going to join a league.
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  We know that. But they got to go to Arkansas.
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  Oh wow, there you go. I mean when you got to.
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  Take it easy on the fighting. To the 12th best team in the
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  SEC. Well, the coach is just waiting
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  to get fired or get a buyout. Yeah, I hope that's not the
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  case, but I think you're probably right.
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  Oh, Boise comes in, they don't have Genti.
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  They don't look at their October.
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  I mean, Speaking of jokes, they don't go on the road in October.
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  Hang on, let me get, let me get their schedule.
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  They don't go on the road in October.
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  Home for Boise, home for NC State, home for USC.
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  Bye. Then they go to Boston College.
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  Look out. Come on.
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  It's a joke. What's what's their November
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  schedule like? When when is the when's the USC
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  game? Middle of October?
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  Yep. At home.
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  At home at Boston College, Navy at Pitt.
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  Syracuse. Stan.
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  Good God, Stanford lost to Hawaii.
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  That's how you're finishing up your year.
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  Playoff team, Oh my God, I hope they go 10 or two and they're
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  left out. I bet they won't.
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  Be, but they won't be. You're right.
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  Because they're Notre. Dame exactly.
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  Anybody else UConn could play that schedule another
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  independent and they go 10 and two and they're left out.
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  Would they go 10 and two with that schedule?
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  I don't know. You got they lose their first
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  two. Yeah, Purdue week 3.
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  They get a buy after this game. That's pathetic.
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  Come on. When you rig the system come.
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  On Boise State, going to be good.
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  No. I don't think they are either,
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  but you know what? I think they're a cinch in the
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  Mountain West. A cinch though I.
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  Think they're a cinch? Gentie was so special.
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  I agree, but UNLV was the team that was going to be pick off
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  Boise State this year. Boise State's run at the top of
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  the Mountain West Conference was coming crashing down.
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  They were at night and day to beat Idaho State.
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  Well, they were. You don't want to overreact to
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  Week 1 because Oregon remember struggle.
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  That's all I get to re overreact to.
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  Medic Madsen. I like him.
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  I. He's OK.
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  He's OK. He's at the right spot.
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  Yes, he's a Boise State quarterback.
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  He is short and he's fine. He's tough.
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  He's not going to South Bend and winning the rest of the but the
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  Mountain West, I mean, they've also taken a step back as.
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  A yeah, they have absolutely have.
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  All right, we'll take a time out.
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  Elliot Clough is going to join us.
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  We'll catch up on Iowa. Kirk Ference met the media
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  yesterday, Various players as well.
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  We'll get into that. I saw that on Tom's site,
• 18:28
  hawkeyereport.com. They put up their game day
• 18:32
  preview Pants Albany. I mean, hey, whoever drew the
• 18:38
  short straw and had to write that thing, good God.
• 18:41
  The. What's the point Sprint and what
• 18:43
  did you? What was the number that you
• 18:44
  came up with with when an overwhelming favorite FBS plays
• 18:49
  an FCS as a how many point favorite?
• 18:53
  37 1/2 or more. 37 1/2 or more fave What did What did the What
• 18:57
  did the numbers say? So this is from Bill AD from VC.
• 19:01
  He he, he's the guy behind VC, yes.
• 19:03
  He puts out a newsletter every morning.
• 19:05
  If you're a gambler, sign up for the newsletter.
• 19:06
  It's free and great information. And it's in your inbox every
• 19:09
  morning, right? Yeah.
• 19:11
  Huge favorites 37 1/2 or more have been almost automatic in
• 19:14
  FBS versus FCS matchups in the opening weeks of college
• 19:17
  football since 2013. Well, they're 16 and Oh yeah, of
• 19:21
  course. Right, but against the number,
• 19:23
  what are? They they're 15 and one come on
• 19:25
  against the spread close to a lot because you're going.
• 19:28
  To So the Hawks are a cinch. They're a cinch.
• 19:30
  Play it with confidence. What?
• 19:31
  What else? Football.
• 19:33
  What else have we got this week? That's that type of spread, do
• 19:36
  you know? There were a handful of other
• 19:38
  games he had to have those FCS matchups, and they're going to
• 19:41
  be ugly. They're. 15 and 1. 15 to one
• 19:44
  against the spread. On FBS versus FCS games where
• 19:49
  the point spread is 37 1/2 or greater, and that's been since
• 19:52
  2013. Illinois favored by 45 1/2.
• 19:56
  Bet bet with confidence that would fall.
• 19:58
  Category Georgia 39 1/2 against Marshall, Penn State against
• 20:02
  Nevada 43 1/2 is the number in that one.
• 20:06
  Those are some of the games that you'd circle if you believe in
• 20:09
  this trend. Next coming up tomorrow, No.
• 20:14
  Friday, Friday. I'm a day ahead of my time.
• 20:16
  You do? Yeah.
• 20:17
  You know what? There's one game that that that
• 20:20
  came out I think was 3 1/2 when it opened.
• 20:22
  It's now 6 1/2. I I I don't want to bet Utah
• 20:25
  anymore. I thought they were cinch.
• 20:28
  I thought they. Were he's gone, he's gone.
• 20:30
  We don't. Have to worry.
• 20:31
  That's good news. Yes, absolutely.
• 20:33
  I think that's good news. They got the New Mexico State
• 20:35
  transfer who can run like the wind.
• 20:38
  UCLA. I'm a lever.
• 20:40
  I'm not a believer. Not either and the wide
• 20:43
  receivers are banged up for you, Clough.
• 20:45
  Their defense was good last year, but they lost a ton.
• 20:47
  But the whole. Country's betting the utes is my
• 20:49
  point, right? So how can I put them?
• 20:51
  I don't want to go the other way.
• 20:53
  We'll see. Anyways.
• 20:54
  Miller and Condon underway, Elliot Clough on the Hawks,
• 20:56
  that's next. Mitch Holt is still to come.
• 20:58
  Cappy's here to kick off our number, our number two.
• 21:02
  Look forward to that. And then Stephen M Simple on
• 21:04
  Nebraska, Cincinnati, Miller and Condon underway on a Wednesday.
• 21:08
  Iowa Sports Radio Network. Hi, Miller Condon, welcome back
• 21:21
  12:30 on a Wednesday. Mitch Holt is still to come.
• 21:25
  Voice of the Kansas City Chiefs. Sounds like Rashi Rice.
• 21:28
  Six games. Yes, that suspension has been
• 21:31
  handed down, so we'll talk to Mitch about that as well as
• 21:33
  other topics. Our number 2, David Kaplan is
• 21:37
  here. Chicago Sports every single
• 21:39
  Wednesday at one with Cappy. We'll talk about the Bears,
• 21:41
  we'll talk about the Cubs, etcetera with the cap man.
• 21:44
  And then Stephen M Simple on Nebraska's.
• 21:46
  They'll head to Arrowhead Stadium tomorrow night to take
• 21:48
  on the Cincinnati Bearcats. Let's talk some Hawks.
• 21:52
  Elliot Cleff, hawkeyeinsider.com, part of 24/7
• 21:56
  Sports, listening into the press conferences yesterday.
• 21:59
  Elliot Trenton, Ken, as always, thank you for coming on.
• 22:01
  Appreciate your contribution to the radio team.
• 22:05
  Let's start with the Kirk Ference.
• 22:06
  Yesterday, he named his left tackle.
• 22:08
  It wasn't a surprise to many who had been following it.
• 22:11
  But just your thoughts on what you heard from Coach Ferris.
• 22:14
  Let's start there. Yeah, you mentioned him naming
• 22:18
  his left tackle in Trevor Loud being the starter, but he also
• 22:21
  said that Jack Dosler was going to get some time tomorrow or
• 22:24
  sorry, on Saturday. I wish it was tomorrow on
• 22:27
  Saturday at last Tackle for Iowa said a lot of these names are
• 22:31
  written in pencil, not in permanent marker or pen.
• 22:35
  That's probably why we saw so many ORS on that original depth
• 22:39
  chart. So not not super willing to
• 22:42
  commit to a lot of these guys as starters other than, you know,
• 22:45
  the folks that have been been around for a while, Jennings
• 22:47
  dunker, Logan Jones, both Stevens, those guys, I mean,
• 22:51
  running backs as well. Two ORS on on that group with
• 22:55
  Kamari Moulton, TJ Washington, Xavier Williams and and of
• 22:58
  course Jasmine Patterson. But really other than that, you
• 23:02
  know, it's just not super committal right now, I guess, if
• 23:08
  you will. And other than, you know, Mark
• 23:11
  Granowski being the starter too, that is very clearly on his job.
• 23:15
  But yeah, not not a whole lot from Kirk yesterday in terms of
• 23:19
  like the opponent or anything like that.
• 23:22
  There's just so little to know about Albany right now with the
• 23:26
  the turnover on the roster and the fact that they still have an
• 23:29
  interim head coach. So truthfully, I mean, right
• 23:33
  now, we're still, we're still in limbo, right?
• 23:35
  Like we just have to season football.
• 23:38
  With that, you mentioned the running back position, so
• 23:41
  Moulton's back out there healthy.
• 23:42
  See a lot of him. TJ Washington, Jazzy on
• 23:45
  Patterson. We kind of know the two guys not
• 23:47
  listed though, or maybe the ones most intriguing.
• 23:49
  We've heard so much about Nathan McNeil and then Brevin Doll, and
• 23:52
  we know that he was banged up last year.
• 23:54
  What do you know about those two guys?
• 23:55
  It sounds like McNeil. Mcneil's going to play at least
• 23:57
  in some fashion. And what have you heard about
• 23:59
  Brevin Doll? Yeah, I know.
• 24:02
  First of all, I'll start with with Brevin.
• 24:04
  I, as far as I know right now, his role on this team this
• 24:07
  season is largely going to be on special teams, whether that's
• 24:10
  Gunner, whether that's getting involved, maybe in return.
• 24:13
  I, I, I doubt it right now, but whether that's being Gunner on,
• 24:16
  on kickoff, I'd expect that to be Brevin's role this season
• 24:21
  unless, you know, things transpire a little bit
• 24:23
  differently as the year goes on. He's just really working on
• 24:26
  gaining that confidence back after missing a good chunk of
• 24:29
  the spring and entering year 2. So I don't have, we have huge
• 24:32
  expectations for Brevin this year, but it wouldn't surprise
• 24:34
  me if he does see some time on the field with Nathan McNeil.
• 24:37
  Yeah, we're definitely going to see him on Saturday.
• 24:40
  I don't know what that's going to look like.
• 24:43
  You mentioned all those names and we know all the names on on
• 24:45
  the depth chart ahead of him. It's just a really deep room.
• 24:48
  So, so like Kirk said, he's giving Nathan McNeil the green
• 24:52
  light. But as much as we see tomorrow
• 24:55
  or something, geez, I keep saying more this weekend.
• 24:58
  That's a, that's a good question.
• 24:59
  I, I'm not sure how they're going to balance that out.
• 25:02
  You know, if it is a blowout, we'll probably see a little bit
• 25:04
  more of, of McNeil in the second-half And, and who knows,
• 25:07
  maybe we get to see some of that lightning in a bottle that we
• 25:10
  that we've heard about. Would you, would you be shocked
• 25:13
  if we, you guys get a box score after the game or we go online
• 25:17
  and find it? McNeil leads the team in carries
• 25:19
  after Saturday's game. Oh, that's a good question.
• 25:23
  I, I do think, I do think that is definitely contingent on how
• 25:28
  the first half goes. And if it's, you know, 24
• 25:32
  nothing, 31 nothing at half and you go into the fourth quarter
• 25:36
  and I will possess the ball of us and you just look to hand the
• 25:38
  ball off to your young guy and get him some reps.
• 25:41
  I could see that. I I probably, I probably would
• 25:45
  lean to the field if I'm, you know, if I'm, if I'm forced to
• 25:49
  defend, like, you know, Marie Moulton could come out in, in
• 25:51
  the first half and they could just possess the ball, possess
• 25:54
  the ball, possess the ball, ball with turnovers or, or what have
• 25:57
  you. And he could end up with a bunch
• 25:59
  of carries. So I, I would probably put my
• 26:01
  money on the field. I, I don't know if I'd lean
• 26:03
  McNeil leading the team in carries quite yet, but yeah, I
• 26:06
  guess, I guess I wouldn't be, I wouldn't be flabbergasted if
• 26:10
  that happened. We'll say that.
• 26:11
  Let's go to the quarterback spot.
• 26:13
  And Elliot, I know you wrote a a big article up at Hawkeye
• 26:15
  Insider after your conversation with Mark Garnowski yesterday.
• 26:20
  We heard early on it was rough. He's shaking off the rust and
• 26:22
  all those different things, but it's kind of continued, maybe
• 26:26
  not as quick as Mark Gronowski. Do you see him as maybe a tough
• 26:29
  critiquer of himself? Because listening to your guys's
• 26:33
  interviews yesterday, that was my take away as it seems like he
• 26:36
  may be a little hard on himself and talking about the footwork
• 26:38
  and the like. Yeah, You know, I I guess
• 26:42
  knowing the amount that I do about Mark, that doesn't
• 26:46
  surprise me. He seems like a quintessential
• 26:48
  like easy on others, hard on himself kind of guy.
• 26:52
  And that's really what a guy like Kirk Ference loves to have
• 26:56
  a quarterback. So I think it's just a further
• 26:58
  affirmation that he's a fit at Iowa.
• 27:01
  And, and when you are a Division One quarterback, when you are
• 27:04
  that level of a football player, you kind of have to be right.
• 27:07
  And, and especially moving up from South Dakota State, where
• 27:11
  it's just a different level of competition.
• 27:13
  I think having that sense of self criticism is honestly like,
• 27:18
  I see it as a green flag for a guy like this in coming into
• 27:21
  this role because I mean, who's to say Kate McNamara had that?
• 27:27
  It's just a it's just a different level of mindset that
• 27:31
  that mark brings to the table. And I think it's a recognition
• 27:35
  that, you know, he's not going to be perfect, that he's going
• 27:37
  to make mistakes, but he's going to do everything he can in his
• 27:40
  power to adjust to those mistakes and to fix those
• 27:43
  mistakes. So yeah, I mean, yeah, I think
• 27:46
  it's it's there. And a lot of really high level
• 27:49
  athletes have that. That's how they end up being
• 27:51
  high level athletes. So I wouldn't say it necessarily
• 27:54
  caught me by surprise or anything like that, but but it
• 27:57
  is an attribute that that he had that he brings to the table.
• 28:00
  One thing that I think caught a lot of people by surprise was
• 28:03
  was Sam Phillips. I mean, I heard about Gillen
• 28:06
  Parker leading up to the season over and over in Seth Anderson.
• 28:10
  Looks like he's finally healthy again.
• 28:12
  And don't forget about Wegen Ference is going out of his way
• 28:15
  to mention Reese Vanderzee did so on the Big 10 Network when
• 28:19
  they were out in Las Vegas. But I never heard about Sam
• 28:21
  Phillips until the depth chart comes out and there he is as the
• 28:25
  starting one of his starting wide receivers, all 5 foot seven
• 28:28
  of them. I'm not knocking his eye, that's
• 28:29
  a fact. But I'm anxious to see him play.
• 28:33
  How did he sneak up seemingly on everybody?
• 28:35
  Or when did he first appear on your read radar, Elliot?
• 28:40
  Well. I, I don't know about when he
• 28:43
  first appeared on my radar necessarily.
• 28:45
  Like I heard some good things about him in the spring when he
• 28:49
  was available. He did miss a little bit of time
• 28:51
  just with an injury. I had a source described him to
• 28:54
  me as silky smooth and I think people are starting to see that
• 28:59
  a little bit more consistently since he's been available.
• 29:01
  And he's really, I mean, he got his feet wet in the spring, but
• 29:05
  I think he's got his feet under him now over the last three
• 29:08
  weeks of really being able to get the muscle memory down of
• 29:11
  the offense, learn the intricacies of it all, learn
• 29:14
  where he needs to be from Mark Kranowski to give, to give him
• 29:16
  the ball, where to be, to block, to be more effective or to help
• 29:21
  the team be more effective in the run game.
• 29:23
  I think it's one of those things with him having been a college
• 29:26
  football player for so long and having been so productive at
• 29:29
  Chattanooga, it was about just getting his feet under him on
• 29:33
  the football field. And that must have clicked
• 29:36
  within the last three weeks or two weeks.
• 29:38
  And then it resulted in that confidence that he's built, like
• 29:44
  moving from that level to to the Big 10.
• 29:47
  I think you have to reshape your confidence, if that makes sense.
• 29:51
  It's, it's a similar thing with with Granowski where you've,
• 29:55
  you've had the success at this level, but then you jump and the
• 29:58
  speed of the game is different and, and the competition level
• 30:01
  is different. And once you figure it out, all
• 30:03
  the confidence in the world comes to you and it's all all
• 30:09
  forward from there. And I think that's what's
• 30:11
  happened recently with Sam. I think he had talent, but now
• 30:14
  it was just about, you know, getting his feet.
• 30:16
  Like I like I said a few times here and, and moving forward.
• 30:19
  And you know, it is kind of weird.
• 30:22
  I did write about this yesterday, the juxtaposition of
• 30:25
  Sam and Reese on the depth chart.
• 30:27
  Reese is 6 foot four and I think 200 and some pounds and Sam is
• 30:33
  57185. And I talked about this a little
• 30:37
  bit with with John Budmeyer there at media day.
• 30:39
  And it's like this offense is so unique in that you're not just
• 30:45
  tall, so you're an X. You have to win matchups.
• 30:47
  You have to be able to adjust based on the coverage.
• 30:50
  And that's what Sam brings, Sam brings to the table and enough
• 30:53
  to put them at the top of the depth chart.
• 30:55
  I guess I'm really intrigued and excited to see what happens just
• 30:59
  as much as you guys. One defensive thing I thought
• 31:02
  was interesting was Cohen Entringer.
• 31:05
  We know he's a stud. They love him inside the
• 31:07
  building. 1 start goes to Big 10 football media days.
• 31:10
  He's listed as a starter at strong safety, then a free
• 31:13
  safety. It's Xavier Wampa or Cohen
• 31:16
  Entringer. And then even at the cash
• 31:18
  position he's listed right behind Zach Leppmer.
• 31:20
  How's this play out because he can't play 3 positions?
• 31:23
  Right, right. So I tried my best to make some
• 31:26
  sense of this and that the OR battles article that I put up
• 31:29
  trend. I don't know if you saw that,
• 31:31
  but to me, what that illustrates is Iowa's willingness to adapt
• 31:39
  to the situations at hand and the versatility that Cohen
• 31:43
  Enteringer brings to the table for them in those situations, IE
• 31:48
  the dime package last year that Iowa instituted.
• 31:50
  I think it started against Washington where Zach Lutmer was
• 31:53
  effectively another linebacker on the field, but a defensive
• 31:57
  back, Sir. Sir, I think what that does is
• 32:01
  it prepares Iowa and where they're at to have that
• 32:08
  schematic versatility, I suppose.
• 32:11
  So if I had to get based on the way the depth chart was
• 32:16
  released, Cohen is your strong safety, right?
• 32:19
  Zack Lutmer is your cash. And there will be some
• 32:21
  flexibility between those two guys in those positions.
• 32:25
  But what lifting Cohen at free safety does is provide them an
• 32:29
  opportunity to start in that dime package where maybe Cohen
• 32:33
  is free, maybe Xavier is better strong in that situation and you
• 32:37
  bring in, I don't know, like a Ty Hudkins or a Kale Kolaric is
• 32:41
  that extra DB. But yeah, I was surprised by
• 32:44
  that too. It's definitely unique, but I
• 32:46
  also think it speaks to Cohen. You mentioned the leadership.
• 32:48
  You mentioned all these accolades that he's gotten pre
• 32:51
  season by from his teammates. I really just think it speaks to
• 32:55
  his potential as being the guy on the defense, being the guy
• 32:59
  that maybe even leaves after this year, has an NFL caliber
• 33:03
  type year and ends up in the NFL.
• 33:06
  So I really just, if anything, think it speaks to schematic
• 33:09
  versatility, but it's based on, which is how versatile Cohen
• 33:14
  enteringer is himself. Elliot Cliff hawkeyeinsider.com,
• 33:18
  part of 24/7 Sports along with his colleague David Eichelt.
• 33:21
  Well done as always, Ellie. We'll run you down next week if
• 33:24
  your schedule allows. Thanks for joining us.
• 33:27
  Yep, Thanks, Ken. Yep.
• 33:28
  Good to talk to you Elliot Cliff, as we check in on the
• 33:30
  Hawks as they get set for Albany, Mitch Holtis next Miller
• 33:34
  and Condon, Iowa Sports Radio Network.
• 33:46
  I'm Mary Condon. Welcome back Iowa Sports Radio
• 33:49
  Network. Trent Condon, Ken Miller with
• 33:51
  you until 2:00. We'll turn things over at that
• 33:56
  time to drive of the drive off the bench with Sean and Lucas
• 34:02
  hopefully get to Mitch Holt's the voice of the Kansas City
• 34:04
  Chiefs for she Rice suspended for six game.
• 34:07
  Is that ineffect as of now? Does he get?
• 34:09
  I'm sure he can appeal. Yes, I what the article that I
• 34:13
  read as it starts week 1 and I do not believe that there was
• 34:17
  going to be an appeal, at least what I saw.
• 34:18
  But that was that initial report.
• 34:20
  So I haven't seen anything deeper than that.
• 34:22
  All right, well we'll see. Hopefully Mitch will join us, if
• 34:25
  not, he'll be with us here tomorrow.
• 34:28
  The team itself, is this it? I mean, does it seem not?
• 34:33
  Not saying they're not going to win.
• 34:34
  I've been said it for 9 years. I see it sound like a fool, but
• 34:38
  I do think they're not going to win the division this year.
• 34:41
  Is this the last go round for this team?
• 34:44
  Mahomes is still going to be there.
• 34:46
  Chris Jones going to be a year older.
• 34:49
  Kelsey probably not going to be there, right?
• 34:52
  I I don't love the receivers. Their offensive line I think is
• 34:55
  finally getting better. I think Simmons gonna be a hell
• 34:57
  of a player. I think they've got these guys.
• 34:59
  I'm with you. And that was a obviously a
• 35:02
  glaring weakness on this line. Crete Humphrey's gonna be there.
• 35:05
  Trey Smith's gonna be. There, I know it.
• 35:08
  I I don't love the running game, Pacheco was.
• 35:12
  Played hurt though last year. But they're trying.
• 35:13
  They're they're trying to find somebody.
• 35:15
  I mean, I know every team needs depth.
• 35:18
  To answer your question, no no. As long as he's there, he's
• 35:22
  there's team is always going to be a contender.
• 35:24
  It's going to be like braiding the Patriots.
• 35:26
  Yeah, and you put it that way, Yeah, kind of stops me in my
• 35:30
  tracks. Because I heard you plenty of
• 35:32
  times talking about how that wasn't going to happen for the
• 35:35
  Patriots, and then it did year after year after year.
• 35:40
  And I think we're on the same path.
• 35:41
  You were on the same thing. Yeah, it's just Mahomes.
• 35:44
  So who's Peyton Manning when it comes to the Brady Manning?
• 35:48
  Who's who's the Mahomes? Who's going to step in his way?
• 35:50
  Is it, is it Beau? Is it Herbert?
• 35:52
  No. Is it Jackson?
• 35:54
  Is it Burrow? Is it Allen?
• 35:56
  I mean, the AFC is loaded with quarterbacks.
• 35:58
  I. Think the answer because Burrow
• 36:00
  has had success against. Him I know he has.
• 36:02
  I think the answer has no defense.
• 36:04
  It's Josh Allen. Josh Allen is what Peyton
• 36:07
  Manning was, at least in the front half of his career.
• 36:10
  Talented guy puts up huge numbers, you know, craps the bed
• 36:14
  when it matters most. And that's not fair to Josh
• 36:16
  Allen because it's been his defense many a times.
• 36:18
  Speaking of that defense, I watched Hard Knocks.
• 36:21
  The episode. Oh, you did?
• 36:22
  Yeah, they stink. I'm not sure belt buffalo's
• 36:25
  getting there this year. I'm with.
• 36:26
  I'd love to see it. I really would.
• 36:28
  Cincinnati's terrible defensively.
• 36:30
  Buffalo's terrible defensively. You know, the most complete team
• 36:33
  in the AFC is, I think. Don't say you're proud I'm not.
• 36:35
  OK, good. That's the second.
• 36:37
  The the Ravens. Yeah, yeah.
• 36:40
  I think they're the most complete team in the year, maybe
• 36:42
  the most complete team in the NFL.
• 36:44
  The Jay Higgins story, and I know a lot of it is his dad and
• 36:49
  the goofiness and the fun and it elevates him, I think just in
• 36:53
  terms of he's just a guy out there having a great time.
• 36:56
  Attorney is a great hawk, yes. And you have.
• 36:59
  Look at the shoes he filled. But to take over for Jack
• 37:02
  Campbell and to do what he did in the course of his career
• 37:07
  back-to-back years, comes back for another year capsule with
• 37:10
  another All American season. He's undersized, he's not fast.
• 37:14
  And he didn't go to Cleveland. He went to Baltimore.
• 37:18
  One of the most successful organizations building a roster
• 37:21
  that you're going to find at the league, without a doubt.
• 37:23
  And he found a way on. He was rated the best
• 37:26
  linebacker. Those stories of those kind of
• 37:29
  guys. Jack Campbell, we knew he's
• 37:31
  going to be good. Then you hear all these knocks
• 37:33
  against Jay Higgins like, well, maybe we just miss.
• 37:35
  Or you can watch football and you can see the Jay Higgins was
• 37:38
  one hell of a football player. What, did they always just plug
• 37:41
  in the tape? Plug in the tape, right?
• 37:42
  It's true, absolutely. It's true with him.
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  How you can watch that guy say enough.
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  I don't think that equates to the NFL.
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  He's a football player. He's a football player and for
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  that reason, for that reason alone, they're they're going to
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  be a contender, going to be a contender every single year.
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  I think Justin Tucker's not there.
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  Is that maybe the question? Because he was automatic this
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  might this guy? As good of a kicker as we've.
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  Seen I was going to say I don't want to put him as the best
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  kicker of all time. That's why he stopped.
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  But he's he's on the list of the best ever play that position
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  right? And the guy's name that's taking
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  his spot is loop. I don't know Tyler Loop.
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  Tyler Loop because he's going to say I don't know his first. 6th
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  rounder out of Arizona. That's where he's from.
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  Yep, pretty big shoes to fill, yes, right.
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  But also remember Justin Tucker stunk last year.
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  He was terrible. He was, but was not just for his
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  standards because if it was maybe anybody else in the NFL
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  that did had the season he did last year, he would have been
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  cut. But because it was Justin Tucker
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  reputation, they couldn't do it. And Harbaugh?
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  Kept saying I've seen him make big kicks before.
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  He's my guy. I'm going to keep sending him
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  out there. Now you have to wonder if
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  there's a little bit more to. Them, absolutely.
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  As far as he knew, it was, you know, his future was about to
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  the turn it was about to take his life for the spot that he
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  put himself in. I think they're the most
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  complete team, Trent. I think that they're favored for
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  a reason. And I would be surprised if they
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  don't, you know, play for a Super Bowl.
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  Did Jake Hummel also make the team for the Ravens?
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  I haven't seen their final 53, but I know he was right there.
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  Close. Oh, I don't know.
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  You know what Doc put out the he he updated where all Yeah, I'm
• 39:20
  looking at the roster right now. I'm looking at the depth chart
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  on ESPN.com. Jake Hummel is the second
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  teamer, Jason. Yeah, behind Trenton Simpson, J
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  Higgins, behind Roquan Smith. How about that clone and a Hawk?
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  A lot of special teams for those guys and I think a lot of what?
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  Year. Is this now for Hummel 2 or 3?
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  Speaking of putting together a career I did not think was going
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  to happen. Jay Cummel, tip of the ball cap.
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  That's great. What year is it for him?
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  Is it year three-year 4, year 4, Three years with the Rams and
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  now year 4 for him. Well done, well done.
• 39:55
  Take time out, come back head Chicago Cappy.
• 39:57
  He joins us next. Get to the Bears, get to the
• 40:00
  Cubs with the cap man. Simple bottom of our of the
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  hour. Transplays of the day still to
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  come as well. Miller and Condon listening to
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  the Iowa Sports Radio Network.