Latest / Jeep Talk Show / Ep. 30 I Sweated My Ass Off Installing This Gauge! XJ Cherokee
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- 3:52So anyway, last episode I was telling you
- 3:56about a potential blown
- 3:58head gasket on the new,
- 4:02or new to us, 99 Jeep Cherokee.
- 4:05And I don't know.
- 4:08I have a tendency to think that it
- 4:09probably is, but I really
- 4:12haven't had any problems with it.
- 4:14Overheating, it runs a little hot.
- 4:17It doesn't run overly hot.
- 4:19It kind of acts like the 98's acting,
- 4:22which I think I mentioned on last show.
- 4:25Let's see, Wayne's
- 4:25checked in, CAD tab 27.
- 4:29Greetings, Wayne.
- 4:31Greetings from the
- 4:32United States of America.
- 4:33The land where, well, at least most of
- 4:36the land that doesn't shake.
- 4:38Wayne is in New Zealand.
- 4:39He's been an interviewee on XJTalk a few
- 4:42times, and also a
- 4:45moderator on XJTalk.com.
- 4:47And if you're curious at all about what's
- 4:49going on in New Zealand,
- 4:50and all those rattles and shakes they've
- 4:55been having, you can get on XJTalk.com,
- 4:58and Wayne will tell you all about the
- 5:00sad, sordid details of it.
- 5:02And he'll also add
- 5:04it's not easy being green.
- 5:06And he's not talking about being
- 5:09eco-friendly when he says that.
- 5:11He has a green Jeep.
- 5:12And right now he says paint them green.
- 5:15You can't paint them green.
- 5:16Some of them have to have color.
- 5:18Some of them have to have pizzazz.
- 5:20Like red.
- 5:21You know, blue is even pizzazzi.
- 5:23Or it can be.
- 5:24So anyway, if you've seen any of the
- 5:27posts on XJTalk.com about the potential
- 5:30head gasket leak on the 99,
- 5:33there's a video that I shot with my handy
- 5:36dandy cell phone showing bubbles coming
- 5:39out of the radiator.
- 5:43You know, I don't know to me.
- 5:46I've never really seen a
- 5:47head gasket problem on a Jeep.
- 5:48So to me, it's from what
- 5:51I've read and what I've heard.
- 5:53That's kind of a classic, classic sign.
- 5:56So I'll probably tear
- 5:57it down and get into it.
- 5:58But for right now,
- 5:59it's able to be driven.
- 6:01I'll probably drive it to work here in
- 6:04the next week or so just to
- 6:06see if it's good for, you know,
- 6:08a good 20, 40, 20 mile one way trip, 40
- 6:11mile round trip during the day.
- 6:14And here in summertime when it's hot.
- 6:16I recently installed the B&M transmission
- 6:22temperature gauge on my 98 Jeep Cherokee
- 6:26and AW4 transmission line.
- 6:30And I had a decision to make whether I
- 6:32was going to put it on the output that
- 6:36takes the fluid that
- 6:37leaves the transmission,
- 6:38which would be hot or hotter than
- 6:41hopefully, when it returns.
- 6:45So I've got the battery coming into the radiator.
- 6:46And since I have the towing package on
- 6:48the 98, it goes into a factory
- 6:51transmission cooler.
- 6:52And then comes back to the transmission,
- 6:55hopefully cooler than when it left.
- 6:57So there's a bit of a discussion about
- 7:00whether the line of the sensor for the
- 7:06temperature gauge
- 7:06should be on the output,
- 7:08the hotter side of the transmission fluid
- 7:10or the input or the return,
- 7:13which would be the cooler side.
- 7:15And it seemed to be that most people and
- 7:16from what I read online, most people like
- 7:19to put it on the output, the hotter side.
- 7:22Because if there's a problem with the
- 7:24transmission getting too hot, they'd like
- 7:27to see it before the cooling system masks
- 7:32the temperature rather than later.
- 7:36So that's what I did. And I was a little
- 7:38afraid that it was just going to take
- 7:39hours and hours and
- 7:40hours to put that thing on.
- 7:42And it was, but it wasn't for hooking up
- 7:45the sensor. The sensor was very
- 7:47straightforward and simple.
- 7:48In fact, I even sped the process along a
- 7:50little bit by using a Dremel tool and a
- 7:53cutoff wheel on the Dremel tool and
- 7:55sliced right through that transmission
- 7:59fluid line very easily and quite quickly,
- 8:02like under a minute, I'm sure.
- 8:04And put the pressure fittings and the
- 8:06Teflon tape and a very nice
- 8:08kit. Went together just fine.
- 8:11The next five hours, because it probably
- 8:14took me 30 minutes to put the sensor on
- 8:17the line, the next five hours that I
- 8:19spent was sweating my
- 8:22ass off for one thing.
- 8:24I mean, literally, I had soaked two
- 8:28t-shirts. I'm just not used to being out
- 8:30in the heat. I work with computers. I'm
- 8:32in a cubicle all day.
- 8:35So I sweat bad before, but I'm definitely
- 8:39not used to the heat. So anyway, that
- 8:42takes a lot out of you
- 8:43when you sweat that much too.
- 8:44But for the next five hours, I was
- 8:47finding a place to wire up the gauge.
- 8:52It's electrical. It needs power.
- 8:53So I had to run the wire coming up from
- 8:55the sensor and run it into the dash,
- 8:58which that was pretty easy
- 8:59and pretty straightforward.
- 9:00But I had to remove the dash. And since I
- 9:02had removed the dash, earlier in the
- 9:04week, I had gone to visit
- 9:06my sick aunt in the hospital.
- 9:09And during the drive over there, I was
- 9:11adjusting the tilt steering. And the
- 9:14little lever just kind of went limp. And
- 9:16I couldn't move the steering wheel.
- 9:18So fortunately, I had a spare steering
- 9:22column that Matt had given me off of a
- 9:262001 XJ. And I was able to
- 9:28see how that was hooked up.
- 9:31And it's just a little cable with a
- 9:34couple of little cylinder-like ends
- 9:37crimped onto either end of it. And it
- 9:39goes into the two mechanisms.
- 9:40One mechanism releases the tilt so it can
- 9:44be moved up and down. And the other
- 9:45mechanism is the little lever that you
- 9:47pull to release the lock on the tilt.
- 9:51So I was actually able to not only see
- 9:54how it went together, but use that cable
- 9:56off the 2001 steering column to replace
- 10:00it, the broken one on the 98.
- 10:01It took a little bit of getting that
- 10:03thing out of there. Fortunately, again, I
- 10:05had the steering column that wasn't in
- 10:07the vehicle that I could actually see how
- 10:10to get that cable out and get it back in.
- 10:13So I probably spent 30 minutes on that at
- 10:15least. Maybe a little longer. But at
- 10:18least 30 minutes in the 98 in the awkward
- 10:22position of trying to get up underneath
- 10:23the dash to replace that little cable.
- 10:25And then I went ahead and not wanting to
- 10:29lose the cable that was broken because
- 10:32really all that happened was that the
- 10:33cable slid out of that little cylinder
- 10:35that it was crimped on on the end.
- 10:38So I didn't really want to lose that and
- 10:40I thought maybe I could re-crimp it. So I
- 10:42ran a little, I think it was a 1 16th
- 10:45inch drill bit through that little
- 10:47cylinder to clear out any
- 10:49crimp that was already there.
- 10:51And slid the cable back in. The cable
- 10:54didn't even break. It was as long as it
- 10:56was before. But I slid the cable back in
- 10:58and then with the vice that I had on my
- 11:01bench I crimped it and I
- 11:03put it so I wouldn't lose it.
- 11:05I put it back in the
- 11:072001 tilt steering wheel.
- 11:10So now I've got a spare. I didn't really
- 11:13want to use that one because if it came
- 11:15apart once it might come apart again. But
- 11:18at least in a pinch I could redo that.
- 11:22Swap that other one in
- 11:23there that I repaired.
- 11:24Anyway, so while I was there I found it
- 11:29was pretty easy to find the 12 volts that
- 11:31I needed to run the meter. And I was not
- 11:35planning on hooking up the little light
- 11:39that's in the meter.
- 11:40I thought, man, I'm going to do this
- 11:41later. I'm just too sweaty and I'm
- 11:43getting too tired messing with this. And
- 11:46then I got to thinking about it and I
- 11:47thought, well this is stupid.
- 11:49I've got this whole thing apart. I've got
- 11:50the whole dash underneath the steering
- 11:52column off there and all the screws
- 11:55underneath are out. There's plates off.
- 11:57The metal plate that's behind the plastic
- 11:59that basically snaps onto the metal.
- 12:01That's out of the way. It's all right
- 12:03there. Take the time to find the 12 volts
- 12:09that goes on and off
- 12:10with the light switch.
- 12:12I was a little lucky because I have an
- 12:14aftermarket alarm system that I installed
- 12:17from one of our past advertisers. Very
- 12:20nice alarm system. Command, commando?
- 12:24Yeah, commando. It's not a name brand
- 12:26thing but it's really neat. It has a
- 12:27remote start and microwave motion
- 12:30detector and all kinds of goodies.
- 12:33Anyway, I knew where several of the
- 12:36things were but that alarm system doesn't
- 12:40need to know or doesn't need to control
- 12:43the lights on the cluster.
- 12:47That's what I needed to come on. That's
- 12:50the light that I needed to come on the
- 12:51meter. I needed to come on
- 12:52when the cluster comes on.
- 12:54I got my little digital volt meter and
- 12:58started poking the wires. There's a point
- 13:02on the probe and I was actually able to
- 13:04penetrate the little plastic covering,
- 13:09the insulation on each wire.
- 13:12Then once I'd find a wire that had 12
- 13:13volts, I could turn the cluster lights
- 13:17off to see if that was the one. That took
- 13:21a little while. That's a little
- 13:22irritating having to go through wires and
- 13:24try to find the right ones. Especially
- 13:25when you have to take your hand off the
- 13:29probe, put the probe down, turn the light
- 13:31switch off, put the probe back up in the
- 13:33same place and wonder, "Am I still
- 13:36getting a good
- 13:37reading through this cable?"
- 13:38Then put it down, turn the light back on,
- 13:43put it back. It would have been a little
- 13:45handier. I'm sure they sell something
- 13:48that you can actually put on the wire and
- 13:50it will hold it on there so that you can
- 13:52just check it faster that way and verify
- 13:56that the voltage is going
- 13:59on and off as you switch it.
- 14:01Anyway, I finally did find the proper
- 14:03wire. Actually, I don't know if it's the
- 14:05proper wire or not, but it's a wire that
- 14:07does have the 12 volts on and off with
- 14:11the switch. I did find later, I didn't
- 14:16even think about it until after I'd
- 14:17hooked it up, I wonder if it will dim.
- 14:19The light on the B&M transmission
- 14:22temperature gauge will dim and it does.
- 14:24I think I did get the right cable, the
- 14:26right wire, the right line. That's hooked
- 14:29up. There really is no good place, no
- 14:33good vision-wise place to put this 2-inch
- 14:39gauge in the Jeep. At least not in my 98
- 14:44and at least not in my estimation.
- 14:46I thought one of the really cool places
- 14:48was right in front of the plastic that
- 14:51you're right in front of the handle for
- 14:52the 4-wheel drive. As I suspected, the
- 14:56lever will actually cover part of that
- 14:59gauge. I don't like that. It doesn't look
- 15:02like a very professional installation to
- 15:04me. It doesn't look like
- 15:05it's very well thought out.
- 15:07Another person that I'd read about doing
- 15:10this installation had mounted on the
- 15:12passenger side of the console. That was
- 15:16very visible to the driver. You would
- 15:20have to look down to the side, but it's
- 15:22transmission temperature. You shouldn't
- 15:24be going 100 miles an hour and needing to
- 15:26look over there to see what the
- 15:26transmission temperature is.
- 15:28That's acceptable. The only thing is that
- 15:30I know from experience with my older
- 15:33little Gooseneck cell phone holder there
- 15:36that even that thing that's been out of
- 15:38the way still gets hit by people's knees.
- 15:42I couldn't help but think that gauge
- 15:44mounted to the side of the center console
- 15:47up there in front of the passenger seat
- 15:48in a little ways is going to be in the
- 15:51way of a passenger. I
- 15:53didn't want to put it there.
- 15:54I had pretty much already ruled out
- 15:56putting in the 3-gauge A-pillar mount
- 16:01that I had bought because I didn't think
- 16:03it had a proper angle on it. I thought
- 16:06the gauges might be... It seemed to me
- 16:08that it was really something that you
- 16:10would put on a vehicle that had a
- 16:13windshield that had more of a slope to it
- 16:15so that the gauges would be more facing
- 16:17towards you. I was concerned that they
- 16:18would be facing up too high.
- 16:20I tried the A-pillar gauge. Oh, it's a
- 16:27pod. That's right. That's what it's
- 16:28called. I tried the pod in there just to
- 16:30see how it would look. It looked
- 16:32acceptable. There's a little bit of an
- 16:34angle to it, but not so much that you
- 16:36can't read the gauges and not so much
- 16:38where it looks goofy.
- 16:40So I went ahead and went that route. Now
- 16:46the only problem that I have with it is
- 16:48I've got one gauge and two empty holes.
- 16:51So I went ahead and ordered a vacuum
- 16:55gauge. This was actually a post that I
- 16:57put up several months ago about what 3
- 17:00gauges would you select?
- 17:02What 3 gauges would you select if you had
- 17:06an A-pillar 3 gauge pod? I knew I was
- 17:11going to have a transmission temperature
- 17:12gauge in there, but what are the others?
- 17:13Some people said oil temperature, which I
- 17:18guess is okay. If I know what the coolant
- 17:20temperature is, then I have a pretty good
- 17:22idea what the oil temperature is, I feel.
- 17:24I may be wrong on that. I've never
- 17:27measured the oil temperature, and I don't
- 17:32understand how critical or why that would
- 17:34be critical. Of course, there's some
- 17:36people that would say there's no reason
- 17:38to measure the
- 17:39transmission temperature either.
- 17:40I mean, if you take an IR temperature
- 17:43sensor and put it on there, you can have
- 17:45a pretty good idea. Well, I'm thinking
- 17:47about taking the transmission lines off
- 17:50of the radiator to help my highway heat
- 17:54creep problem, and I wanted to know what
- 17:56the temperature was of the transmission
- 17:58because I don't want to tear up my
- 18:00transmission in the process.
- 18:02Even though I've been told by several
- 18:04people that an additional aftermarket
- 18:09transmission cooler is more than enough
- 18:11to keep the transmission cool. Now I will
- 18:14know with the
- 18:17transmission fluid temperature gauge.
- 18:20So anyway, I ordered two more gauges
- 18:22today. I ordered the VIA air pressure
- 18:27gauge, and I ordered a vacuum gauge
- 18:31because the engine vacuum will tell me
- 18:35it's a real good thing to
- 18:36know as far as fuel economy.
- 18:39It also gives you a good idea about the
- 18:42performance of the engine and how things
- 18:44are going with it, you know, because you
- 18:46get used to seeing what the engine vacuum
- 18:52is as you drive it day to day or on the
- 18:54highway and so on and so forth.
- 18:56You have a good idea, a good feel for the
- 18:59vacuum of the engine. And also too, as
- 19:01long as you keep the vacuum high, that
- 19:04means that the throttle body isn't wide
- 19:08open and letting the air pressure go low.
- 19:12If the throttle body is not wide open,
- 19:14that means you're not dumping a lot of
- 19:16fuel into the intake. So it's an economy
- 19:20thing. You can drive more economic by
- 19:24watching the vacuum, the engine vacuum.
- 19:28So now the air pressure gauge is kind of
- 19:32going to just be a filler for now because
- 19:34what I'm planning on doing with it, I
- 19:36figured this would be a really neat idea
- 19:39since I don't want to go and spend money
- 19:42for an air compressor right now.
- 19:43I can go ahead and get one of those VIA
- 19:45air 2.5 gallon tanks and mount it towards
- 19:50the rear of the jeep on driver's side
- 19:54past the transfer case. There's a spot
- 19:58right there that that particular tank
- 20:01will fit underneath, or I'm sorry, the
- 20:05unibody will stick down below that tank
- 20:08so it'll kind of protect it.
- 20:10And it fits behind the transfer case.
- 20:13There's just space there. So I've seen
- 20:15another installation like that. So I'm
- 20:19fairly confident they'll fit well there.
- 20:21And then what I'll do is I'll just use
- 20:24that tank. I'll just fill it up with my
- 20:27air compressor at the house.
- 20:29Or if I can find an odd gas station that
- 20:32still has a real air compressor, I can
- 20:35fill it up there. And with the gauge in
- 20:37the A-pillar pod, I'll be able to see how
- 20:41much air is left in the tank. And then,
- 20:44you know, know at a glance
- 20:45if I need to fill it up again.
- 20:48And then later I'll get a probably a VIA
- 20:50air compressor and mount that and hook it
- 20:54up. And then I'll have a switch with the
- 20:57overhead switches that I have where I can
- 20:59kick that on and fill up the
- 21:02tank, fill up the air tank.
- 21:03But the neat thing is, is that with the
- 21:06air tank, that means I'll have onboard
- 21:08air. It'll be limited, of course. But the
- 21:11really nice thing will be I'll have a
- 21:15compressed air system. What am I trying
- 21:19to say? A compressed air
- 21:21reservoir for my air horn.
- 21:23I had two situations today where it would
- 21:26have just been very advantageous, if not
- 21:31satisfying, to use an air horn. You know,
- 21:35those people that they feel that if they
- 21:37signal it's okay to pull within, you
- 21:40know, three feet of your front bumper,
- 21:42you know, because they're in a hurry.
- 21:45That's fine. They can be in a hurry. I
- 21:47just wrote his ass. But it would have
- 21:48been a lot more fun to hit that 110, 130
- 21:54decibel air horn whenever he did it. So,
- 21:59yep, yep, looking forward to the air
- 22:00horn. And with that source of air, I
- 22:04should be able to use it,
- 22:06at least in short bursts.
- 22:08So let's see. Looking over here at the
- 22:11chat room, for those of you that are not
- 22:14aware, we have a live show every
- 22:16Wednesday, 8 p.m. Central Time. And it's
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- 22:44The thrust of the podcast was really just
- 22:47to have a weekly show and interview
- 22:49people and talk about things like what
- 22:51I'm talking about tonight. And just have
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- 22:57And just listening to it from the site.
- 23:01And then I thought, well, I'm going to
- 23:02put it live on Ustream at the same time.
- 23:04So the Ustream is kind of an
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- 23:08into our chat room and chat.
- 23:10Anyway, going back, looking at the chat
- 23:12room here that you people listening to
- 23:14the podcast may not be aware of. But
- 23:19anyway, VW Fool Y has
- 23:22joined us along with Wayne.
- 23:24And just sitting here seeing what, just
- 23:26kind of catching up with what VW Fool Y
- 23:29is saying. Without, let's see. The air
- 23:34psi gauge is a good one for watching
- 23:36cooling system. If pressurize while on
- 23:43turtle, then you have a leak.
- 23:45Hmm. I don't know. It's a closed system.
- 23:50So I would only be watching the air tank.
- 23:53So I guess, no. Pressure would only go
- 23:58down if I had a leak. So I don't guess.
- 24:00So I'm just talking about an onboard air
- 24:02system without an air compressor.
- 24:05Okay. No, I don't, I don't know. Maybe he
- 24:07and Wayne are talking about something. I
- 24:09didn't read all the, all the comments
- 24:11there. I didn't want a lot of dare dare.
- 24:13Anyway, welcome to the, welcome to the
- 24:15live show VW Fool Y.
- 24:18Thank you for showing up.
- 24:19So, so anyway, that's what I've got
- 24:21planned. I've got a couple of gauges
- 24:23coming in. I bought both of those, both
- 24:25those gauges and the tubing to hook up
- 24:30the, the vacuum gauge through amazon.com.
- 24:33And at X-ray talk, we've got a little
- 24:35thing going on that I actually picked up
- 24:37on from listening to another podcast
- 24:40where there's an affiliate
- 24:41program that amazon.com has.
- 24:44And if, if, if your website has a link
- 24:48set up, like we have for X-ray talk.com
- 24:52you can actually get a little percentage
- 24:53off of each sale, each sale that somebody
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- 25:00because it's not like they're charging,
- 25:02Amazon's charging you
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- 25:08customer service, the same fast shipping
- 25:10that you would normally get from
- 25:12amazon.com. But if you go to, to the link
- 25:16that we have set up on the homepage of
- 25:18X-ray talk.com, if you click on that link
- 25:20first, it'll take you to X-ray to
- 25:23amazon.com. And then you
- 25:25can make your purchase.
- 25:26And when you do that, X-ray talk.com will
- 25:29get a few percent of that sale. And
- 25:31again, it doesn't cost you anything
- 25:33different. There's no money added to that
- 25:38for that, for us to have that privilege
- 25:41of getting a few cents for each of those,
- 25:45each of those purchases that you make.
- 25:47So it's a, it's a really cool deal and
- 25:50I'm pretty excited about it. Somebody
- 25:52made a purchase today and they told me
- 25:54about it and it's not showing up yet. It
- 25:57looks like it will not show up until it's
- 26:00actually shipped. Which kind of makes
- 26:02sense because, you know, somebody could
- 26:04always cancel the order and then there's
- 26:05no reason to, you
- 26:07know, get your hopes up.
- 26:08So like I've put in the post on Xray
- 26:11talk.com, help out the site and, you
- 26:14know, get the product that you were going
- 26:16to get anyway and pay the same amount you
- 26:18were going to pay for it anyway. And it's
- 26:20a win-win. So at least
- 26:22that's the way I look at it.
- 26:24Unfortunately, I can't, it doesn't seem
- 26:28to work very well for me if I'm buying
- 26:32something since it's the same login. I
- 26:35tried that because I've made a couple of
- 26:37purchases. And let's see, Wayne, are you
- 26:39trying to call? Let's see. Yeah, maybe
- 26:42so. Let me see. Let's try, I think maybe
- 26:45I missed a call from Wayne. That's
- 26:46strange. It didn't pop
- 26:48up. Let's try calling Wayne.
- 26:51So anyway, order from my amazon.com. Just
- 26:54go to Xray talk.com and click on the
- 26:57link. And then, you know, if you want to
- 26:59buy a house or something like that, that
- 27:01would work out really well percentage
- 27:03wise for us. Hey Wayne, how's it going?
- 27:05I'm good about yourself.
- 27:06Oh, just fine. Did I miss your call?
- 27:09Yeah, I thought I'd call in while I'm
- 27:10pretty early off work today.
- 27:11Excellent. Thank you. No, I didn't see it
- 27:13pop up. I just saw a little notification,
- 27:16like whenever somebody adds you to their
- 27:18contacts or something. And I went over
- 27:20there to look at it while I was talking
- 27:22and it looked like I
- 27:22had missed your call.
- 27:24Hey, how's things going? Is
- 27:25it still shaky over there?
- 27:27Yeah, it's crazy times again.
- 27:29Man, I just, I was really hopeful. You
- 27:31know, like you, I'm sorry, for the, the
- 27:34audience is not aware. Like I was saying
- 27:36earlier, Wayne is in New Zealand,
- 27:38Christchurch, New Zealand. And of course
- 27:40they've, they've had several quite
- 27:42devastating earthquakes there.
- 27:44And fortunately, Wayne hasn't had any, I
- 27:50don't want to, I don't want to understate
- 27:51this Wayne. You have not experienced any
- 27:54loss of life. You still have a home, but
- 27:57you have this constant, almost constant
- 27:59shaking going on and, and your home has
- 28:01suffered, suffered damage.
- 28:03Fortunately, your Jeep is still, still
- 28:05doing, doing well. However, your, your
- 28:07big screen TV lost its, its battle a
- 28:11couple of weeks ago, I believe.
- 28:13So Wayne is there in Christchurch. He's a
- 28:15moderator on our site. And if you go back
- 28:19and listen to some past shows, we've,
- 28:20we've interviewed, had interviews with
- 28:22Wayne. I think it was only a week after
- 28:24the, the seven point, whatever it was
- 28:28that they had there in Christchurch.
- 28:29So, been wanting to get back with Wayne
- 28:32just to find out how things were going.
- 28:34Frankly, when I had spoken with, with
- 28:37Wayne on xjtalk.com, it was the hopes of
- 28:40having a, yeah, things are starting to
- 28:42calm down. We're getting back to work.
- 28:44We're getting the house fixed. And then
- 28:46they had another big one here, not too
- 28:47long ago. Fortunately, not as big as the,
- 28:49the, the last one they
- 28:51had, but still substantial.
- 28:53So Wayne, I think everybody's up to, up
- 28:55to speed. I think I stated all that stuff
- 28:57correctly. Feel free to
- 28:58correct me if I was wrong.
- 29:00No, it sounds right. We had another big
- 29:03one last Monday night. Monday night we
- 29:06had a 5.4 that upgraded it. And then we
- 29:09had about 20 afterwards. So we had no
- 29:12sleep that night. It
- 29:13was 10.34 thereabouts PM.
- 29:17It really, really shocked the house. It
- 29:19was really, they're all really shallow.
- 29:20They're about five, six, seven K deep.
- 29:22There's more damage in the city again.
- 29:26The city just
- 29:27wouldn't mess at the moment.
- 29:28But the governments today about now
- 29:32announcing some plans for people's houses
- 29:35who had it and they can't rebuild on the
- 29:37land. They got to buy the houses, most of
- 29:40the people, give the people payment, pay
- 29:42out the valuation of the house plus land.
- 29:45Those people can then move on. Then the
- 29:46government, they got to deal with the
- 29:49insurers and whatnot private insurers. I
- 29:51think that was a pretty good move by
- 29:52them. It's taken them nine, 10 months.
- 29:54This has been gone that long.
- 29:56That's getting announced as we speak. I
- 29:59think there's six suburbs and could be up
- 30:02to 5,000 houses involved. They've got
- 30:04nine months to make up
- 30:05their mind to people.
- 30:08We had kind of a somewhat similar
- 30:10situation near where I lived in
- 30:14Lynchburg. It's just a little community
- 30:16called Lynchburg. It was actually more
- 30:18Baytown than anything else.
- 30:20But there was a subdivision called
- 30:22Brownwood and it was right next door to
- 30:25another subdivision called Lakewood. But
- 30:27Brownwood actually had subsided. The land
- 30:31had subsided. It was on Burnett Bay.
- 30:35And because of all the oil companies and
- 30:38the drilling here in the area, or at
- 30:40least in the area of Baytown, that's
- 30:42where the Big Ex-On refinery is.
- 30:43And a bunch of chemical plants, oil
- 30:46plants, DuPont, etc., etc. I guess it's
- 30:48pretty amazing to look at. I'm just used
- 30:50to it because I've been here all my life.
- 30:52But at any rate, there was a lot of
- 30:54subsidence specifically in that area. And
- 30:58every time there was a big tropical wave
- 31:01or something that would come through,
- 31:03there would be a lot of water that would
- 31:07come into Brownwood and flood homes.
- 31:11And it wasn't until Alicia came through,
- 31:13which was, gosh, I guess like 84 or so.
- 31:20Yeah, I think it was 84. When Alicia came
- 31:22in, it really flooded that area and the
- 31:25government bought out all those houses.
- 31:27So it sounds a lot similar to what you're
- 31:29talking about. But the thing I don't
- 31:30understand is, why can't they build on
- 31:32the land? Is it like sinkholes or
- 31:34liquefaction? Or why wouldn't they be
- 31:36able to rebuild on that land?
- 31:38Some of that liquefaction, a lot of it's
- 31:41around the river. Some hilltop houses
- 31:44where the hills disappear, fall down. And
- 31:47a lot of it, it's a swamp. At the end of
- 31:49the day, they've built on a swamp
- 31:50crossage when it was settled.
- 31:52First settled, it was a swamp. There's a
- 31:54lot of old river beds under the city, so
- 31:56they're finding out now. And it's, the
- 31:58land's just disappearing and sinking.
- 31:59Have you ever seen that liquefaction?
- 32:01The cutlery pictures I put up and
- 32:03whatnot, the little bit says sub-moves
- 32:05and sub-moves of that just covered in
- 32:06that. And it's, and people's houses under
- 32:08their floors made as deep in some areas.
- 32:11That's like whenever a solid, but it
- 32:13starts to act like a liquid because of
- 32:15the shaking. So things that would be
- 32:18sitting on something that was solid
- 32:20looking, like the ground, it would
- 32:22actually sink into it. I remember you
- 32:24posted some pictures of things that were
- 32:25sunk into it that, in my mind, looked
- 32:28like what happens
- 32:30whenever there's a lot of sand.
- 32:31Like if you parked a vehicle on a beach
- 32:33and the water washed in around the
- 32:35wheels, the sand would build up. I don't
- 32:39know if the vehicle goes down or the sand
- 32:41just builds up around it, but you get
- 32:43this thing where the sand goes up the
- 32:45side of the tire a little bit. That's
- 32:47kind of what those pictures reminded me
- 32:49of. So I guess what's happening is when
- 32:51the ground shakes, the
- 32:52solids act like a liquid.
- 32:54Yeah. And it's coming out of the ground,
- 32:56it's leaving holes under it. A lot of the
- 32:57banks have fallen down. So there's
- 32:58flooding, a lot of flooding
- 32:59now too on the tidal rivers.
- 33:02Just up the road here, there's floods
- 33:04twice a day with the tides. It's because
- 33:07of the earthquake caused the banks and
- 33:10the land to drop a meter or so.
- 33:12So there's people there from, well it's
- 33:15still on 10 months now from that first
- 33:17one, they've been living with power going
- 33:18off and on. And they saw, as in they've
- 33:20been having to use those port-a-loos on
- 33:23it. You call them that? Those
- 33:24port-a-potties, port-a-loos.
- 33:25So they're walking out whenever they've
- 33:27got to do their business, be it one in
- 33:29the morning or one in the afternoon. It's
- 33:30winter here now, no lights, torches. I
- 33:32don't know how the people
- 33:33have been living like that.
- 33:34So how's your house? I know you had said,
- 33:36I think that was a picture that you had
- 33:37posted where the wall was leaning out. So
- 33:41you had quite a large crack there. Again,
- 33:45I don't know if that
- 33:45was your house or not.
- 33:46Yeah, one of the main walls has got a big
- 33:50bow on it. The roof's concave to almost,
- 33:53I can see daylight. I'm in my bedroom now
- 33:55and I'm looking at my
- 33:56wall. I can see daylight.
- 33:57It's got worse and it keeps moving. These
- 34:01good shakes, I think it's still
- 34:03structurally sound. It might wake up and
- 34:05it might have been a bit closer to the
- 34:07neighbours. It's better.
- 34:08But yeah, it's just getting worse. But
- 34:10they were about to go with a go ahead to
- 34:12start fixing it. Because we've had the
- 34:15big shakes now, we haven't heard from
- 34:16them. So I don't know if the goers...
- 34:18At the end of the day, what they're going
- 34:19to do is come in here, we're going to
- 34:21move out for, say, I think it's going to
- 34:23be about near on T-Muntz.
- 34:25Lift the house right up, and I think
- 34:27they'll move it. And then do their
- 34:28foundations again, put the house back
- 34:30down, then straighten all the beams in
- 34:32the roof with new floor, new beams, new
- 34:34wall, paint it, drywall, you call it
- 34:36drywall, turbo wall, whatever else they
- 34:38find. So it's quite a major one.
- 34:41That's amazing. That's a lot of work.
- 34:45Yeah, Warren on here, the other key we
- 34:48see, J-A-N-Z, Warren, his wife, she can't
- 34:53handle it anymore. He's put his house up
- 34:54for auction and he's just...
- 34:56This is last night he told... I saw him
- 34:58posted actually on XJTalk and he's
- 35:00brought a block in at least, which is
- 35:01about 20 minutes away. You feel the
- 35:04really big earthquakes. You're not waking
- 35:07up with the floors when they roll
- 35:08through. You don't feel them out there,
- 35:09you only feel the real big ones.
- 35:11So he's had enough, he's gone. There's
- 35:14thousands like that. And even more today,
- 35:16when the government announces packages,
- 35:17people will just be... They'll move you
- 35:19out of Christchurch.
- 35:20Yeah, completely understandable.
- 35:22Especially if you have a family.
- 35:25Especially if you...
- 35:26That's on Kitchathir as well though.
- 35:28Oh yeah, I guess so. I guess relatives.
- 35:30Yeah, I got Ali, my daddy, he's
- 35:3370-something now, Bridget's mum, she's...
- 35:35Well, we know about Bridget's mum, don't
- 35:37we? We don't talk about that in law.
- 35:40She's Ali and frail and you got your
- 35:42friends, I got brothers and sisters here,
- 35:45cousins. I'd rather be in Christchurch if
- 35:49something goes snap again than a couple
- 35:51hundred miles away where it's going to
- 35:52take me hours to get here or say it be in
- 35:54Australia or something like that where
- 35:55it'll take me so many
- 35:56hours to get back here.
- 35:57If you can fly back in kind of thing, I'd
- 35:58rather be able to even have a hard walk
- 36:00to go and check on my father or family
- 36:02and whatnot. I'd rather just be here.
- 36:03Yeah, that makes a lot of sense and
- 36:05something I didn't consider. It's a very
- 36:07foreign location for me so all my family
- 36:10is here close by and I didn't even think
- 36:12about your family being close by which
- 36:14makes perfect sense.
- 36:16And like you say, if you were in
- 36:17Australia, they had floods, they had some
- 36:20recent earthquakes, they have all kinds
- 36:22of issues there so,
- 36:23you know, what do you do?
- 36:25I mean, it would be like me in California
- 36:31along the San Andreas Fault and then
- 36:34moving to another place in California on
- 36:37the fault line. So, you know, in Texas, I
- 36:40don't care too much about it.
- 36:41We can't go anywhere because you can't
- 36:43sell your house and you can't walk away
- 36:45from your house because it's worth X
- 36:46amount of dollars. You can't because
- 36:49they're damaged. So you're kind of stuck
- 36:51here anyway. You're kind of screwed even
- 36:53if you wanted to go. At least you walk
- 36:54away, cut your losses and start again.
- 36:56That's a lot of money to waste kind of
- 36:58thing if you know what I mean.
- 36:59Well, yeah, but I mean, but it's
- 37:00perfectly understandable the people that
- 37:02do, you know, just because of the sanity.
- 37:07It's more, it's broken a lot of people
- 37:09these last few big shakes. You can really
- 37:12see it now but people just say sick of it
- 37:14and sleep, sleep deprived. You know, if
- 37:16you can catch sleep, it's good sleep but
- 37:18you get a big quake like we did the other
- 37:19night and you get about so many during
- 37:21the night, you don't get a lot of sleep
- 37:23for the next three, four days.
- 37:25And then when you do, it's always at the
- 37:26back of your mind. If you bet you're in
- 37:28the shower or bet you're about the days
- 37:30off, you always, what if, you know, you
- 37:32wait or if you hear a noise, you know,
- 37:33your eyes open or you brace yourself or
- 37:35you got to run or whatever. That's crazy.
- 37:37I would imagine that you don't even want
- 37:39to eat the food that gives you any gas
- 37:42because you can scare a small family.
- 37:47The Indian restaurants won't be doing a
- 37:48very good trade. It's crazy times but,
- 37:53you know, there's a lot of, a lot of, a
- 37:56lot of, a lot of scutter stuff eventually
- 37:57and then we'll have a better city out of
- 37:59it and we'll have a bright good future.
- 38:01But at the moment, 10
- 38:02months of it, she's wearing thin.
- 38:04Yeah, how long has it been total?
- 38:06Yeah, September the 4th.
- 38:07Last year, so it was 10 months.
- 38:09Oh goodness. Maybe, maybe that's what you
- 38:12said. I thought you said two months and
- 38:1510 months. Okay. Yeah, I was thinking it
- 38:17was over a year because I know it's been
- 38:18going on a long time, a lot longer.
- 38:22We had the February one, killed people in
- 38:25February. Then we, the 13th we had the
- 38:28big, another big six and another big five
- 38:30and that was, that's what broke a lot of
- 38:33people because the streets, okay, they
- 38:35were patched up but there was some sort
- 38:37of, you know, you could go
- 38:38about some normal activities.
- 38:40Now, now it's a battle to get to one side
- 38:42of town again and like I said, people are
- 38:44shuffling that liquid faction for the
- 38:45third time and yeah, power's gone, water
- 38:48was gone. I think we're only allowed to
- 38:49start drinking the water again.
- 38:51Yeah, you still should probably boil it
- 38:53and people still, Monday night when that
- 38:55one went through, they lost their power
- 38:56again and water and stuff.
- 38:58Yeah, and there's a lot of, a lot more
- 39:00broken houses around now. You actually
- 39:01see them with wolves disappearing and
- 39:03disappeared and it's crazy. I think
- 39:05they've more or less, the CBD, the
- 39:07central part of town.
- 39:08I think they've just left it at the
- 39:09moment because every time they go in
- 39:11there to start doing stuff, we get a big
- 39:12shake, masonry or stuff, fools and we
- 39:15don't want to lose more people.
- 39:16Yeah, I was going to say that's going to
- 39:17be hugely frustrating for the people that
- 39:19are putting things back together and I'm
- 39:21sure even for you, are
- 39:22you back at work now?
- 39:24Yeah, we're doing work. We're working
- 39:27just out of 30 minutes down a crosshairs
- 39:30the last couple of days but we're working
- 39:31on the other side of town last week in
- 39:34the hills where they've been rumbling.
- 39:35And it was funny, I was going to be over
- 39:37there the day, it's called Governor's
- 39:39Bay, the last big six we had and I was
- 39:41right there and I was going to be in
- 39:42there cutting one of our concrete jobs up
- 39:44but we got delayed and I'm kind of glad
- 39:46we did because it would
- 39:46have been a long walk home.
- 39:48There's rocks and stuff down all over
- 39:49because it's through the hills and stuff.
- 39:51There's rocks all over the stuff down the
- 39:52road so I don't even know if that house
- 39:54will still be there actually.
- 39:56It must be very frustrating for the
- 39:58people that are trying to get things
- 39:59working again. I guess this is one of
- 40:01those things where you just have to keep
- 40:02going because for the water and the
- 40:06electricity people have to have it. It
- 40:07makes a huge difference in
- 40:09the quality of life I'm sure.
- 40:11Doesn't help. We're in the smack bang in
- 40:12the middle of winter toast, that's pretty
- 40:13cool over here at the moment.
- 40:15Well that's good, yeah that's right
- 40:16because it's summertime here.
- 40:19It's cold or it's cold. It must be so
- 40:23horrible for the people who haven't got
- 40:24proper heating and stuff.
- 40:25How else they'll rely on electricity for
- 40:27their heating and lose the power.
- 40:28It doesn't get really cold over there
- 40:30does it? I mean you
- 40:31don't get snow do you?
- 40:33Every couple of three years we'll get
- 40:34snow. We freeze quite often, it's below
- 40:38two in the mornings when you
- 40:39wake up. Big frost and stuff.
- 40:43Protecting southerlies for next week
- 40:46comes up from Antarctica and that's
- 40:48really really cold stuff. We've got good
- 40:49skiing about 45 minutes away from here.
- 40:51There's no snow there at the moment but
- 40:53we're not for our skiing.
- 40:55Mifton which is not far from here.
- 40:57We do get rough winters. It's been really
- 40:59wild so far so I don't know what's to
- 41:01come. I'd say we've got some nasty stuff
- 41:03coming. This is what
- 41:04we need really enough.
- 41:06When it rains it pours if you go with
- 41:10that thought process. I would like to see
- 41:12you guys have a little quiet time.
- 41:16Although I guess it was getting a lot
- 41:18better before it started acting up again.
- 41:22You get the big shakes and you f***
- 41:25yourself and when it goes quiet, I think
- 41:27I was chanting to you on time on tap.
- 41:30We haven't had one for a while and we had
- 41:31a big bang so we stopped
- 41:32talking about it myself.
- 41:34You don't know whether there's a big
- 41:36shake and you're all on edge again but
- 41:38when it goes quiet you're not at that
- 41:41stage where you think they must be over
- 41:42you thinking when does the next big one
- 41:44come in kind of thing.
- 41:45Sure at this point with all the shaking
- 41:47you've had you can't
- 41:49just think it's over.
- 41:50After every big shake they say you can
- 41:53expect aftershocks for
- 41:54another year kind of thing.
- 41:55We're back two weeks ago we had the six.
- 41:58There's a 30% chance we can have a 6.9 to
- 42:02a 7 now within next month and then it
- 42:04goes down slowly for the next year.
- 42:06They still reckon
- 42:07there's a big one out there.
- 42:09This is probably old news but something
- 42:13that's not so sad, at least
- 42:15I don't think it's this sad.
- 42:16You were recently trying to get your Jeep
- 42:18inspected and you were having some
- 42:20problems. What was the problem and how
- 42:22did you get around it?
- 42:24I had no light for my, this is like no
- 42:28dash light for my year back but it's a
- 42:32mechanical year back the Jeep don't have
- 42:34them and I had to
- 42:34explain that to my mechanicals.
- 42:37And then I just got peeved with him and I
- 42:39went to talk it down to my mate who owns
- 42:424WD accessories who's lost his shop but
- 42:44he says no that's cool leave it with me
- 42:46and I'll take it where he's allowed to go
- 42:47because you've got to be
- 42:48at a proper mechanic shop.
- 42:49He talked it round to another 4WD shop
- 42:51threw it through for Warren. I think I
- 42:53put a new track bar or
- 42:54something Connor got his gold.
- 42:56It's all legal now I've got problems with
- 42:57the clicking noise but it's the universal
- 43:02the drive shaft which I think I've got
- 43:05I've just ordered one which I just got my
- 43:07next project to fix that but at the
- 43:08moment it's still running and I really
- 43:09want to pull it apart.
- 43:10Yeah and with and you never
- 43:12know when you might need it too.
- 43:14Well that's I didn't want to it actually
- 43:17rained here in southeast Texas today
- 43:19quite a bit and I like putting my my Jeep
- 43:23in 4WD since I have the
- 43:25full time option on it.
- 43:26I like putting it in 4WD especially on
- 43:29one road that I travel on it's very very
- 43:31slippery but I didn't want to do it
- 43:33because I've got a a u-joint in my front
- 43:37drive shaft that's
- 43:38starting to talk to me.
- 43:39So I'm going to try to change one day the
- 43:42front one to the big one from if I
- 43:44remember I think Steve Steve 4.3 LXJ said
- 43:48that they're all the same.
- 43:49There's three there's three on the front
- 43:52drive shaft because of the cardigan but
- 43:55but there's just a ball be the same and
- 43:56I've got two Spicer u-joints and I know
- 44:01that one of the u-joints on the on the
- 44:05front drive front drive shaft were
- 44:06changed a couple of years ago.
- 44:08And I know they didn't change actually I
- 44:10think two were changed they didn't change
- 44:12the one that is on the drive shaft that
- 44:15connects to the cardigan.
- 44:17I think I'm saying that correctly the
- 44:19cardigan joint because they
- 44:20said they couldn't get to it.
- 44:24So I just kind of left I just kind of
- 44:26left it alone but so I know all the all
- 44:29the u-joints have been changed including
- 44:32the ones on the axles because I changed
- 44:33those myself with the exception of one on
- 44:36the front front drive shaft and I'm sure
- 44:38that's the one that's
- 44:39that's acting up on me.
- 44:40Well I say I sure I'm going to look and
- 44:42see but that's probably the one because
- 44:44that's the one that has the hundred and
- 44:45seventy thousand miles on it.
- 44:47Well I just clicked up two hundred and
- 44:50mine kilometers two hundred thousand K's
- 44:53but my mind is kilometers over here so I
- 44:54don't know why that works out at miles so
- 44:56I've just run my jeep.
- 44:58Well it's probably pretty close to what
- 45:00I've got on mine. You may have a little
- 45:02more actually but yeah so I'm going to
- 45:05try to try to get motivated and boy I
- 45:08just sweat my ass off
- 45:10just putting that gauge in.
- 45:12And I hate to go out there and do it
- 45:13again but I sure do like being able to
- 45:15put that thing in four wheel drive and I
- 45:17don't want to drop a front drive shaft
- 45:19because I want to be it's going to be an
- 45:24inconvenience hopefully and not an
- 45:27emergency situation.
- 45:29I'll swap mine out this weekend but yeah
- 45:32I'll do mine this weekend.
- 45:34That's what my plan is
- 45:36to do it this weekend.
- 45:37That's my plan yeah this weekend. It'll
- 45:39take long shouldn't it?
- 45:40No and I've got my door locks aren't
- 45:44locking so every every time I get to
- 45:47where I'm going I have to manually lock
- 45:49four doors and then I've got to go lock
- 45:51the tailgate and it's
- 45:53just a pain in the butt.
- 45:54So I tried getting on the the alarm and
- 45:58trying to program it so that it doesn't
- 46:00automatically unlock the doors whenever
- 46:02you disable the alarm
- 46:04but I couldn't find it.
- 46:06I've had my driver's side window has
- 46:09never wound down for about two years now.
- 46:11It's a real pain in
- 46:13the ass driver's side.
- 46:14I've traced wires I've locked it out and
- 46:17I've pulled it apart and put another
- 46:19piece in there and nah still just won't
- 46:21work so I live with it at the moment.
- 46:24Yeah that's a that's like your locking
- 46:25thing that's a pain in the butt driver's
- 46:28side window doesn't go down. It's a real
- 46:29pain in the butt. That's
- 46:30why passengers won't for you.
- 46:32Well my dad told me a long time ago he
- 46:34goes don't get it don't get don't get a
- 46:36vehicle with all that power stuff on it.
- 46:37That's something else to go wrong.
- 46:40It sure is nice when it works though
- 46:42especially especially if you want to roll
- 46:44down all the windows and have that almost
- 46:47open air feeling that you would get like
- 46:50with a Wrangler or something.
- 46:51I like driving with all the windows down
- 46:53in the Jeep and it's just real simple to
- 46:55make that decision to roll them all down
- 46:57and you know if it's too cold
- 46:59or too hot roll them back up.
- 47:01It's not enough to reach
- 47:02over there and do it manually.
- 47:05I'll get those doors off while those
- 47:06reed-neck twins stand your way.
- 47:09You know I was when I took the 99 over to
- 47:12Matt's shop weekend
- 47:14before last he was there.
- 47:16Reenie was there and I asked him I said
- 47:19did you do you ever get hit by rocks or
- 47:22anything whenever you're driving with the
- 47:24doors off and he says no but he's learned
- 47:27to keep his legs inside because you know
- 47:30as he gets hit by he's been hit I think
- 47:32with sand and some dirt and
- 47:33that that hurts pretty bad.
- 47:35So which I can well imagine it is pretty
- 47:37cool though it does look pretty neat and
- 47:40of course it is nice air conditioning.
- 47:42I guess I guess it's even cooler whenever
- 47:44you're sitting in a light because there's
- 47:46more of a breeze to come through.
- 47:47I think that would be a legal way.
- 47:49I don't know how to do that.
- 47:51Oh really.
- 47:54But I don't know.
- 47:55It'd be legal here at least like you can
- 47:58because the boys are all
- 47:58remaking he's got cutler angles.
- 48:00He takes on the tops and doors off
- 48:02summertime but unless they're made for
- 48:05I'll look into that
- 48:06actually I'll find out about that.
- 48:07I'm pretty sure it'd be illegal because
- 48:08they're beginning to bang down on us
- 48:10anyway so I wouldn't want to bring
- 48:12attention to myself anyway.
- 48:13Yeah doors would be interesting.
- 48:16Well I don't know.
- 48:18Just it amazes me how how much how many
- 48:20things we can do here in Texas.
- 48:22I'm used to California being pretty about
- 48:25things when I just I was really surprised
- 48:27of Australia doing the gun ban.
- 48:30Because I've always felt
- 48:31Australia is a lot like Texas.
- 48:36For rednecks you know.
- 48:39You should get to talk to James or those
- 48:42couple of those Ozzy boys we've got now
- 48:43because even though I think some of them
- 48:46were born in New Zealand.
- 48:47They have got some really
- 48:49different roles to what we've got.
- 48:51As in modifying their keeps or
- 48:54four wheel drives or vehicles.
- 48:56They're really they're always in us.
- 48:59I just I just don't understand that.
- 49:01I don't understand the mindset.
- 49:04You know to be interesting because I'd be
- 49:06quite curious to find out myself.
- 49:08It'd be quite interesting to see if you
- 49:10could Skype one of those boys at some
- 49:11stage and have a bit of a chat to them.
- 49:13Oh yeah that's a good idea.
- 49:16James James is up for it.
- 49:18That's right.
- 49:18I remember you you actually set that up
- 49:20and I had forgotten about it.
- 49:22You know it may just be my misconception
- 49:25of Australia but I'm sure that you know
- 49:27in the big the big city there in
- 49:29Australia it would make sense.
- 49:31But there's so much of
- 49:32Australia that isn't a big city.
- 49:34I just can't imagine why they would
- 49:36restrict you for for modifying a vehicle.
- 49:39I mean to me Australia is a wonderful
- 49:42place where you would need a highly or
- 49:44you could make use of a
- 49:45highly modified four wheel drive.
- 49:47And keeping the height restrictions and
- 49:51tire size and yeah it just it just seems
- 49:53very counterintuitive.
- 49:55And I'm quite happy that we don't have
- 49:58those restrictions here in Texas.
- 50:00We were struck but if you do everything
- 50:01right you know they
- 50:02worry about lines of legal.
- 50:03It's all suited by volume suit because
- 50:05it's lifted and whatnot.
- 50:06But it's all legal.
- 50:07So therefore if I had someone that can't
- 50:09come back with me with
- 50:10insurance or vice versa.
- 50:11So that's one reason I did it.
- 50:13Safety was another one as well.
- 50:15Yeah well I don't want to be all fallen
- 50:17off or suspension collecting you know.
- 50:19I'm going around with
- 50:20family and a kind of thing.
- 50:21Yeah well I think it all goes back to
- 50:23who's making the determination of safety.
- 50:25Is the government deciding for you or are
- 50:28you deciding for yourself?
- 50:30And here recently I've got Governor Rick
- 50:33Perry the governor here in Texas vetoed a
- 50:36bill about not being able to I think it
- 50:40was either talk on the cell phone or text
- 50:43on the on your cell phone.
- 50:44While driving because he basically said
- 50:47that you know the people ought to be able
- 50:49to decide that for themselves.
- 50:51Government shouldn't be deciding it.
- 50:52And besides it's very difficult to catch
- 50:55somebody doing that.
- 50:56And I think it's idiotic.
- 50:59People should not be texting on the cell
- 51:01phone while they're driving.
- 51:02I see it almost every day.
- 51:04But yeah it should be the individual's
- 51:07responsibility to make that determination
- 51:10about whether or not they should.
- 51:11I mean I don't want to
- 51:12get killed because of it.
- 51:13I don't want to kill somebody because
- 51:14they weren't paying attention and they
- 51:16run a red light or run a stop sign and
- 51:18I'll plow into them.
- 51:19But you know at some point the government
- 51:22has to allow its people and really the
- 51:25government is only
- 51:26there because of the people.
- 51:27It's not the other way around.
- 51:29So that's coming about
- 51:32a year ago over here.
- 51:32No cell phone use while you're driving.
- 51:34Do you use a lot of
- 51:36smoking bars over there?
- 51:37Or restaurants or
- 51:38bars or pubs or taverns?
- 51:40I think it depends on
- 51:42where in the country you are.
- 51:43California is real bad about that or real
- 51:45good about that depending on whether or
- 51:46not you're a smoker.
- 51:47I'm a non-smoker and I
- 51:48do not like smelling it.
- 51:50Yeah that's well we're not allowed to in
- 51:53public places over here.
- 51:54Yeah that's a good call.
- 51:55And that's coming from a smoker but I
- 51:56think that's a really good call.
- 51:57Yeah and that's the way
- 51:59it is here in Houston.
- 52:00All the restaurants in Houston and I
- 52:02believe in Katie now
- 52:03too are all non-smoking.
- 52:06And you know on my Mokoroi.com blog I
- 52:11actually posted a thing about the smoking
- 52:13stuff and I made it really clear.
- 52:15I don't care if you want to
- 52:17kill yourself with smoking.
- 52:18Go right ahead.
- 52:19If you're my friend I may not want you to
- 52:21die sooner because I enjoy your company
- 52:25and I might say
- 52:25something to you about that.
- 52:26But as far as you're
- 52:27right the smoke that's fine.
- 52:29But the problem I have and have always
- 52:31had about it is the smoke
- 52:32doesn't know to stay with you.
- 52:35Passive smoking.
- 52:36And I'm not concerned about getting
- 52:38cancer from the passive smoke.
- 52:40I just don't like smelling the
- 52:42****.
- 52:43I don't. I'm a
- 52:44non-smoker. I don't like it.
- 52:47And if you, any of you non-smokers, if
- 52:51you remember back when you weren't a
- 52:53smoker or weren't around smoke all the
- 52:54time, it's very very telling.
- 52:58I mean you can smell it very easily.
- 53:00And of course when you're a smoker, yeah
- 53:02when you're a smoker you don't smell it.
- 53:03You know you'll get used to it.
- 53:04Just one quick question
- 53:06about your senators and stuff.
- 53:08Sure.
- 53:09That fellow was sending
- 53:11photos, that wiener fellow.
- 53:14Is he related to Jim?
- 53:15Is he related to who?
- 53:16Jim.
- 53:18You know I don't think so.
- 53:22He was a crack up man. That was on the
- 53:23news over here mate.
- 53:24I nearly fell off my
- 53:25chair when I heard about that.
- 53:26I just can't imagine, number one I can't
- 53:29imagine a congressman doing that openly
- 53:33in a very very public, worldwide public
- 53:36forum and doing it with
- 53:38the nice name of wiener.
- 53:40That's what threw me
- 53:41mate. That was so funny.
- 53:44Unbelievable.
- 53:46And you know I haven't seen, I heard some
- 53:49little bit, little inkling that some
- 53:52people were saying, isn't it interesting
- 53:54that all this came out when Obama's
- 53:56popularity, his poll numbers were way
- 53:59down and the economy numbers had come out
- 54:01that were really bad.
- 54:03Basically unemployment is going back up
- 54:05and so on and so forth and boom all of a
- 54:08sudden here's a democrat wiener with this
- 54:12scandal that takes up all the news.
- 54:14Which is what he did was it's interesting
- 54:17and hilarious but in the big importance
- 54:19of things it isn't important. It's not as
- 54:22important as the US economy.
- 54:24Yeah so you know I don't know I don't
- 54:27think anybody would ruin their career
- 54:28just simply to help out President Obama
- 54:31but you know I don't know.
- 54:32Not as though it was funny
- 54:33because his name is wiener.
- 54:34Oh it's hilarious.
- 54:35I made several jokes and one of the
- 54:37things that I had indicated that I may
- 54:40have even posted in the chat on
- 54:42xjtalk.com I said you know it's
- 54:44interesting his name,
- 54:45last name is wiener.
- 54:47But I think that you know a few centuries
- 54:49ago people didn't have last names and
- 54:51they only had names, they were given last
- 54:54names based on things about them.
- 54:57And they were given their profession
- 54:58usually like a blacksmith would be black
- 55:00or smith and I figured wiener, wiener's
- 55:04ancestors must have gotten that name
- 55:07because of similar activities years ago.
- 55:10How about hogs in the house?
- 55:12Well I think that it would be more of a
- 55:15flashing type thing.
- 55:16Hey look at me.
- 55:19Yeah it is related to Jim Bison maybe.
- 55:22I don't know you may know
- 55:23more about Jim than I do.
- 55:26I'll ask him.
- 55:28I've got to sign off now mate.
- 55:30We're doing something
- 55:33we're talking to me.
- 55:34Yeah I just thought we're up date.
- 55:36Nothing much has changed we're just still
- 55:37shaking and I'll keep my posts updated on
- 55:40what's happening here and I'll put a link
- 55:41through to that government.
- 55:43Same what they put through today.
- 55:44Well please do.
- 55:47We definitely care about what's going on
- 55:49over there and you and your family and
- 55:52I'm just glad you're
- 55:52still able to get online.
- 55:53That's been the best thing out of all of
- 55:55it for us is being able to get the news
- 55:57and hear that things are still going
- 55:59along and you're still doing okay.
- 56:01But thanks a lot for calling in tonight.
- 56:03I've been wanting to get you on here for
- 56:04a while and didn't get
- 56:06anything set up with you.
- 56:08Guys to shag say we don't
- 56:10want really talk any much time.
- 56:12Yeah I understand.
- 56:14I'm just hoping for better news much
- 56:19sooner than what we've been having.
- 56:22I'd like to thank all the members for the
- 56:23well watched this for my
- 56:24family and them as well.
- 56:25They quite far too so it's really good.
- 56:28Well perfect timing because we're here at
- 56:31the end of the show.
- 56:32Thank you again for calling in and I'll
- 56:34catch you on the site.
- 56:35Okay Tony cheers mate.
- 56:36Cheers.
- 56:37Take it easy.
- 56:39And like I said that was great timing to
- 56:41have Wayne calling in.
- 56:42I've been wanting to get him back on the
- 56:45show and like I was saying I was hoping
- 56:47that we would get things are improving,
- 56:50things are getting back to normal and
- 56:52then they started having
- 56:53some large quakes again.
- 56:56And I sure hope his house makes it.
- 56:58So many over there have lost their homes.
- 57:01But you know the bright side is nobody
- 57:05has lost their life in his family.
- 57:07There was loss of life but
- 57:11that did not extend to him.
- 57:13So very grateful for that.
- 57:16So guys that ends
- 57:17another show for us this week.
- 57:21Don't forget to tune in next week.
- 57:238pm every Wednesday night Central Time.
- 57:26And of course you can catch us on iTunes
- 57:28and on podcast.xjtalk.com to listen to
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- 57:35So everybody had a very good night and
- 57:39you know a happy Jeep week.
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