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Possum-Hunting Heroes · I Hate Talking

• 0:29
  I Hate Talking: -- Welcome to episode 30 of I Hate -- Talking.
• 0:33
  I Hate Talking: Hi everyone.
• 0:34
  I Hate Talking: So we have a lot of extra material today on this episode.
• 0:38
  I Hate Talking: I know you keep saying that.
• 0:40
  I Hate Talking: And it is taking up a lot of room in our studio.
• 0:43
  I Hate Talking: Yes, you're really struggling with this.
• 0:46
  I Hate Talking: So for those that can't see us, which I guess would be everybody because this is not a video podcast.
• 0:52
  I Hate Talking: Currently, yet.
• 0:54
  I Hate Talking: Oh no.
• 0:55
  I Hate Talking: We have a number of books and additional computer equipment with us this particular episode.
• 1:04
  I Hate Talking: We have the complete and unabridged, the Little and Ives Webster dictionary and Home reference library.
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  I Hate Talking: Which isn't little at all, and is massive.
• 1:14
  I Hate Talking: No, it is quite large, and there's actually an interesting story about this particular volume that uh perhaps we'll get into later in this episode.
• 1:22
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, we can put photos on Instagram too.
• 1:25
  I Hate Talking: If you don't know, we're on Instagram.
• 1:27
  I Hate Talking: You can follow us at IHTalkingpodcast, is it a podcast?
• 1:31
  I Hate Talking: I you'll find it if you just search, I hate Talking.
• 1:34
  I Hate Talking: I believe this is a podcast, so I think it's I hate Talking podcast.
• 1:38
  I Hate Talking: I think so.
• 1:38
  I Hate Talking: The next volume we have is a reprint of the American Dictionary of the English Language written by Noah Webster from 1828.
• 1:50
  I Hate Talking: So it's another Webster book.
• 1:52
  I Hate Talking: Yes, so we'll have to look at the year in the larger volume here and see because the one that I'm referencing right now is a first edition facsimile of the actual 1828 publication.
• 2:07
  I Hate Talking: Is that our word for the day, finally.
• 2:11
  I Hate Talking: It is not and we'll actually arrive at the word of the episode momentarily and uh actually look up that word in all these different volumes that we have.
• 2:22
  I Hate Talking: How fun.
• 2:23
  I Hate Talking: And then we also have the new Strong's exhaustive concordance of the Bible.
• 2:29
  I Hate Talking: Which isn't new, cause I definitely use that all through college.
• 2:33
  I Hate Talking: Well, I'm sure there was an original, but apparently this is the new, so we'll have to look again, perhaps at the uh print date and publication history of this particular volume as well.
• 2:43
  I Hate Talking: Sounds good.
• 2:44
  I Hate Talking: And then lastly, we have an additional laptop today, and that will be used to look at the Google Books Ngram viewer.
• 2:54
  I Hate Talking: I don't even know what that is.
• 2:56
  I Hate Talking: What is that?
• 2:57
  I Hate Talking: Well, stay tuned because we will find out.
• 3:00
  I Hate Talking: In just a moment.
• 3:02
  I Hate Talking: OK, you can prepare today.
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  I Hate Talking: I did.
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  I Hate Talking: All right.
• 3:06
  I Hate Talking: So, the word or phrase of the episode is a singular word, hero.
• 3:14
  I Hate Talking: OK.
• 3:15
  I Hate Talking: We've not done a very good job at exactly sticking to our word or phrase of the episodes over the last few episodes.
• 3:25
  I Hate Talking: We have always had a word or phrase of the episode, and we've given a definition, but we have not consistently talked about the etymology of the particular word or phrase.
• 3:37
  I Hate Talking: True, OK.
• 3:38
  I Hate Talking: So this particular word or phrase comes about because uh we recently heard this word used.
• 3:45
  I Hate Talking: In a public address and we're told that we would hear about the etymology, uh, but unfortunately, we only heard the definition and as someone that tries to be very precise and accurate with my words and language, we want to perhaps enlighten some of those people that would actually like to learn about the etymology of the word hero.
• 4:09
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, OK, I like that.
• 4:11
  I Hate Talking: So we're refocusing, we're shutting down our ADHD and we're focusing on the topic at hand here.
• 4:18
  I Hate Talking: Hero, both the definition and the etymology.
• 4:22
  I Hate Talking: OK, -- let's do -- it.
• 4:24
  I Hate Talking: So let's do it.
• 4:25
  I Hate Talking: Oh my goodness, I can't even, OK, I will put these in Instagram.
• 4:29
  I Hate Talking: I don't even know where you, where did you keep this book?
• 4:33
  I Hate Talking: It is in my personal library in the office.
• 4:36
  I Hate Talking: I've never seen this before.
• 4:38
  I Hate Talking: I'm sure it's massive.
• 4:40
  I Hate Talking: Um, I think we've even talked on the pod about me not having the best eyesight.
• 4:46
  I Hate Talking: And I can't read those words.
• 4:49
  I Hate Talking: They are so tiny.
• 4:50
  I Hate Talking: I would have to get my glasses.
• 4:53
  I Hate Talking: Yep, so this particular edition is quite large, uh, we'll have to, like you said, try to take a photo of it and uh publish that and uh maybe add a banana or something for scale.
• 5:05
  I Hate Talking: And Uh, this particular volume is a 4th printing that was done in 1958.
• 5:15
  I Hate Talking: Uh, the original copyright is from 1957.
• 5:18
  I Hate Talking: Wow.
• 5:19
  I Hate Talking: So, we can either jump straight to the definition or perhaps you'd like to hear the story behind this particular volume.
• 5:28
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, tell me the story first.
• 5:30
  I Hate Talking: So when I was a little child, my parents took me to a bookstore that was going out of business and the particular sale was $1 per book for any book.
• 5:43
  I Hate Talking: And somewhere in the back of this shop, I located this extremely large volume.
• 5:50
  I Hate Talking: And asked the store proprietor if he would honor the $1 sale price and indeed he did, uh, it did cause him to pause and consider whether this book was really going to be relinquished from his possession for one single dollar, but he did honor the sale price.
• 6:11
  I Hate Talking: It probably weighed as much as you did back then.
• 6:15
  I Hate Talking: It very may well be.
• 6:16
  I Hate Talking: Wow.
• 6:17
  I Hate Talking: I still do not understand how I've never seen this book before in my life.
• 6:21
  I Hate Talking: Where do you have you kept it?
• 6:23
  I Hate Talking: It's huge.
• 6:24
  I Hate Talking: It is, it is very large.
• 6:26
  I Hate Talking: And then I can't even read those words.
• 6:29
  I Hate Talking: They're so not only is this book massive, but the writing is so tiny.
• 6:34
  I Hate Talking: And it's also in like a pre Times New Roman font as well, so I don't even know what font this is, but it is.
• 6:42
  I Hate Talking: Uh, Not very modern, right?
• 6:46
  I Hate Talking: Is it just um typewriter?
• 6:49
  I Hate Talking: Is that what it is?
• 6:50
  I Hate Talking: I don't know.
• 6:52
  I Hate Talking: Perhaps some investigation that we can do.
• 6:53
  I Hate Talking: All right, so the definition for hero from this particular volume.
• 6:59
  I Hate Talking: Reads noun.
• 7:01
  I Hate Talking: And it actually does give some of the etymology in the definition here.
• 7:07
  I Hate Talking: So it is from the Latin, herom or heros, or even the Greek heros.
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  I Hate Talking: And it means a man often worshiped as a demigod celebrated by any community, especially among primitive peoples for warlike exploits or credited with the introduction of arts or a person conspicuous for valor, fortitude, and endurance in danger and difficulty and for such romantic qualities as outstanding personal strength and beauty, success in war, chivalry, magnanimity, perfect courtesy.
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  I Hate Talking: Any person whose character, reputation, exploits, and personality strike the imagination and cause one to regard him as the ideal of manly virtue.
• 7:52
  I Hate Talking: Or a leading male character in a literary work or in a narrative.
• 7:57
  I Hate Talking: So we've been using the Oxford dictionary for a number of our definitions and even a little bit of the etymology of the particular words or phrases of previous episodes, and that is mainly because in terms of modern usage, the Oxford Dictionary in my opinion, does stick a little bit more closely to a true definition in historic usage of words, whereas the modern day Merriam-Webster's dictionary has been, in my opinion again.
• 8:27
  I Hate Talking: co-opted by the modern lexicon and sort of just watered down in the current version of dictionary.com.
• 8:36
  I Hate Talking: So that is the reason that we've particularly used the Oxford Dictionary in previous episodes, but I think this definition is much more robust than even things you would find in modern dictionaries just from a few short decades ago.
• 8:52
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, I know, I think that's really cool.
• 8:54
  I Hate Talking: I think I got hung up on the word demigod.
• 8:57
  I Hate Talking: I'm thinking like, is a hero really a demigod?
• 9:00
  I Hate Talking: So maybe we can talk about that later.
• 9:02
  I Hate Talking: I want to hear what you have next.
• 9:04
  I Hate Talking: Well, let's go back further in time to 1828.
• 9:08
  I Hate Talking: Now, I am Struggling a little bit because there are words in this particular dictionary that I would not expect and was expecting to get to the HERO, but there's actually quite a few of H E R I -- words -- like that just say one because I can't even think of one off the top of my head.
• 9:30
  I Hate Talking: Harrison Oh, of course, obviously.
• 9:34
  I Hate Talking: So it actually describes a hedgehog.
• 9:38
  I Hate Talking: Ashin is a hedgehog.
• 9:41
  I Hate Talking: No, it is the act of when a hedgehog causes their hair to stand out or to bristle.
• 9:49
  I Hate Talking: All right, well, there you go.
• 9:50
  I Hate Talking: A bonus worth for the episode.
• 9:53
  I Hate Talking: Alright, so here we arrive at the word hero in the 1828 facsimile.
• 10:00
  I Hate Talking: Which describes the word as a noun.
• 10:04
  I Hate Talking: A demigod.
• 10:06
  I Hate Talking: So there you go, just the very first definition that's there.
• 10:10
  I Hate Talking: It coincides in elements with noble, grand, a champion, and with the words lord or master.
• 10:19
  I Hate Talking: Uh, so a little bit on the etymology as well from the Latin heroes and as well the Greek.
• 10:28
  I Hate Talking: And actually the Greek is the particular source of the usage around demigod, whereas the Latin is not as much.
• 10:38
  I Hate Talking: Uh, so then the particular dictionary gives four different definitions, a man of distinguished valor, intrepidity, or enterprise in danger.
• 10:47
  I Hate Talking: As a hero in arms, to a great illustrious, or extraordinary person, as a hero in learning.
• 10:56
  I Hate Talking: Three in a poem or romance, the principal personage or the person who has the principal share in the transactions related as Archilles in the Iliad, Ulysses in the Odyssey, and Eneas in Eid, for in pagan mythology, a hero was an illustrious person, mortal indeed, but supposed by the populace to partake of immortality and after his death to be placed among the gods.
• 11:25
  I Hate Talking: These are intense definitions.
• 11:29
  I Hate Talking: And I think we'd find that actually with a lot of the words that we do.
• 11:34
  I Hate Talking: If we went back to these particular sources.
• 11:37
  I Hate Talking: Uh, rather than I guess now we've set a precedent, so I guess we'll have to.
• 11:43
  I Hate Talking: Make room in our studio for these particular volumes.
• 11:48
  I Hate Talking: So the final physical volume that we will consider is the new strong concordants.
• 11:55
  I Hate Talking: So I guess as we referenced earlier, we gotta find out why it is new.
• 11:58
  I Hate Talking: So the original Strongest Concordants is by Doctor James Strong in 1890.
• 12:07
  I Hate Talking: And then the new strong's exhaustive concordant improves upon the original volume, according to the text that I'm reading here.
• 12:15
  I Hate Talking: And it also uses an entirely new computer generated typesetting.
• 12:20
  I Hate Talking: Oh, so fancy, like AI.
• 12:23
  I Hate Talking: No, I think they're just referring to the font.
• 12:26
  I Hate Talking: OK.
• 12:28
  I Hate Talking: And this came about in 1990, is the copyright date.
• 12:32
  I Hate Talking: Though a number of the entries also appeared to be from 1984.
• 12:38
  I Hate Talking: OK, there you go.
• 12:39
  I Hate Talking: This is not happening.
• 12:42
  I Hate Talking: I was about to say, is there any hero in scripture?
• 12:44
  I Hate Talking: I feel like maybe not.
• 12:45
  I Hate Talking: Well I think there would be, but apparently not actually described with the specific word hero.
• 12:52
  I Hate Talking: If you're using the definitions that we've heard for a hero from the other two, then yes, I'm sure that you can cross reference.
• 13:01
  I Hate Talking: But the word hero is probably not in the original text.
• 13:08
  I Hate Talking: So it appears so, at least according to this exhaustive concordance.
• 13:12
  I Hate Talking: So the entries go from Hermanites, which is those inhabitants of Mount Herman, which only has one usage.
• 13:21
  I Hate Talking: And it goes then to Herod of the Herodians or Herod the Great.
• 13:27
  I Hate Talking: Herod Antipas.
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  I Hate Talking: Or Herod Agrippa.
• 13:32
  I Hate Talking: And then Herodians, Herodias, Herodias, Herodian, Herod's Heron, hers and herself.
• 13:39
  I Hate Talking: Does it look up things like demigod or anything?
• 13:42
  I Hate Talking: Can you find that in there?
• 13:44
  I Hate Talking: Or is that too niche of a word also?
• 13:47
  I Hate Talking: So the word demigod does not appear in this particular concordance.
• 13:53
  I Hate Talking: OK.
• 13:55
  I Hate Talking: Now it is also interesting to note that the word demon, which would be Nearly adjacent to the word demigod does not appear in this concordance either.
• 14:04
  I Hate Talking: Huh.
• 14:06
  I Hate Talking: OK, this is not gonna be part of the podcast is Nephilim in there.
• 14:12
  I Hate Talking: Well, before we jump to Nephilim, then let's look at just the word God which is in this concordance and actually takes up 1234.
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  I Hate Talking: 5678.
• 14:28
  I Hate Talking: 910.
• 14:30
  I Hate Talking: 1112, 1314, 15, so basically 15 pages of God, gods in the possessive or God's plural.
• 14:41
  I Hate Talking: Is that going back to the Old Testament, cause I know that they often wouldn't use the word Yahweh for God.
• 14:47
  I Hate Talking: Like, how soon would God show up?
• 14:50
  I Hate Talking: So this does use, I think the English language, I think it actually referred to the King James version.
• 14:56
  I Hate Talking: So it does go back to the Old Testament.
• 14:59
  I Hate Talking: So it would use God when it would say Yahweh.
• 15:01
  I Hate Talking: Correct.
• 15:03
  I Hate Talking: So it'll be interesting to see if the word nephilim appears because that would probably not be an English word, and I don't think that is the word that is used in the King James, or is it?
• 15:13
  I Hate Talking: I find out.
• 15:13
  I Hate Talking: I feel like no, I won't find out.
• 15:17
  I Hate Talking: So it does have nephilim.
• 15:20
  I Hate Talking: But it has a cross reference, so it does not give the passages that use that word, it just says see giants.
• 15:27
  I Hate Talking: Yeah.
• 15:28
  I Hate Talking: King James uses the word giants, where the ESV would use the word nephilim.
• 15:34
  I Hate Talking: The King James also uses the word God in place of Lord.
• 15:38
  I Hate Talking: At least in Genesis.
• 15:41
  I Hate Talking: And if you do go to Giants in the Concordance, it does have the Genesis 6 reference there.
• 15:49
  I Hate Talking: There you go, OK, well, that was a huge tangent, but Got that figured out.
• 15:54
  I Hate Talking: So then our final resource for this particular word or phrase is Google Ngram.
• 16:01
  I Hate Talking: And it's not the engram.
• 16:03
  I Hate Talking: That's exactly what I was just thinking.
• 16:06
  I Hate Talking: Google anygram, that's weird.
• 16:07
  I Hate Talking: So the Google Books Ngram viewer is actually a resource provided by Google that takes books written in various languages, obviously we're talking about books in English from all the way back in 1500, all the way through nearly the current day, uh, this particular one appears to go up to 2022 and uh you can look at the usage over time of a variety of words or phrases.
• 16:38
  I Hate Talking: So we have plugged in Hero to look at the usage over time, which actually is pretty infrequent in the very beginning years, again, that may just be because there's not a lot of either books within the purview of this particular program or it just really wasn't used that frequently and then it starts to take off around the early 1700s and actually peaks around the year.
• 17:08
  I Hate Talking: 1778.
• 17:10
  I Hate Talking: Oh, just after the US.
• 17:14
  I Hate Talking: Yes, so interesting to note that there may have been some global conflicts going on that uh would have been.
• 17:20
  I Hate Talking: Written about quite frequently that would contain heroes.
• 17:25
  I Hate Talking: Uh-huh, yeah.
• 17:26
  I Hate Talking: And then it steadily declined until 1917, where it sort of hit a new modern day low and then sort of was flat until around the late 1990s and actually increased in usage over the past two decades or so, peaking in the year 2017.
• 17:49
  I Hate Talking: Wow, that's crazy.
• 17:52
  I Hate Talking: Is it continuing to go up or is it starting to decline again?
• 17:56
  I Hate Talking: So it does show a slight Leveling off and actually starting to go down.
• 18:04
  I Hate Talking: Over the last.
• 18:07
  I Hate Talking: 2 years, 3 years, uh, so you can change the smoothing in here as well.
• 18:13
  I Hate Talking: So it seems like it peaked in.
• 18:16
  I Hate Talking: And actually 2013 has come down and then actually went back up a little bit over 2021, 2022.
• 18:24
  I Hate Talking: Right, that makes sense.
• 18:25
  I Hate Talking: So a lot of Marvel movies in the early 2000s, followed by some.
• 18:30
  I Hate Talking: Heroes within the medical and.
• 18:35
  I Hate Talking: Other communities that perhaps uh.
• 18:38
  I Hate Talking: Serve their particular purposes over the course of COVID.
• 18:44
  I Hate Talking: Right, that's what I thought of when you said 2021 was, yeah, all the COVID things, all the heroes there.
• 18:50
  I Hate Talking: If it's early 2000s or so when it peaked, Would that be because of like 9/11 and all that with like uh um war and the heroes there?
• 19:02
  I Hate Talking: Or am I just really read into that?
• 19:05
  I Hate Talking: Was it just simply the Marvel movies that got it popular?
• 19:08
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, it doesn't look like there's any particular spike around that time.
• 19:11
  I Hate Talking: It was just steadily increasing over the last two decades.
• 19:15
  I Hate Talking: Cool.
• 19:17
  I Hate Talking: So we've talked about the definition and from a variety of sources, so very in depth on this particular episode, uh, but we touched on the etymology, but let's talk a little bit more in depth about the etymology of the word hero as well.
• 19:32
  I Hate Talking: So, like we said, it does have usage both in Latin and Greek.
• 19:37
  I Hate Talking: The primary one that seems to have more usage is from the Greek, which is the word heros or hero, and it literally means protector or defender, and it does often refer to those Greek mythological characters of divine ancestry or later given divine honors in terms of their heroic ability and or actions.
• 20:04
  I Hate Talking: OK, that's where we get the demigods concept from earlier, right?
• 20:09
  I Hate Talking: Exactly, they would be either a mythological or legendary figure, often of divine descent or bestowed with some sort of divine power from the gods.
• 20:21
  I Hate Talking: And then it also does have Latin roots, uh, according to a lot of the research that's been done, the Latin actually borrowed from the Greek in terms of that particular usage, uh, so that's again why we see most of the usage primarily within the Greek first and then the Latin borrowing that but still had uh some variety of usage within that as well.
• 20:48
  I Hate Talking: OK, awesome.
• 20:50
  I Hate Talking: And then there's actually some overlap as well with Scottish where there is an old word in Scots for the word hero, which also means warrior, champion or hero, and that often was used in terms of a lot of the wartime heroes and uh particular things that people did with regards to Scottish Independence I've seen if history has like.
• 21:24
  I Hate Talking: Ellis of ultimate heroes or, you know what I mean, like, what, who are the heroes, people would say overall.
• 21:30
  I Hate Talking: Hercules I'm just getting a lot of like.
• 21:34
  I Hate Talking: Spider-Man.
• 21:36
  I Hate Talking: No, they're just like Batman.
• 21:39
  I Hate Talking: I don't know, I guess.
• 21:41
  I Hate Talking: Lancelot.
• 21:43
  I Hate Talking: William Wallace.
• 21:44
  I Hate Talking: Are you doing your personal heroes or I was looking at what?
• 21:53
  I Hate Talking: are considered the ultimate heroes.
• 21:56
  I Hate Talking: Well, that is our final thing that we will be talking about is personal heroes because I am yours -- because we have -- I'm, you're my hero.
• 22:06
  I Hate Talking: Yes, because we were able to save the chickens from the possum.
• 22:11
  I Hate Talking: That's true.
• 22:13
  I Hate Talking: Oh no, you don't tell that story?
• 22:17
  I Hate Talking: Well, I've been doing a lot of the talking, so I think uh you can share the story and I'll fill in some gaps.
• 22:23
  I Hate Talking: OK, you are my hero in very many ways.
• 22:26
  I Hate Talking: Uh, but recently, yes, we have a bunch of chickens, and they're very well enclosed and um well taken care of, I believe.
• 22:37
  I Hate Talking: They're happy and healthy.
• 22:39
  I Hate Talking: And the other night, our dog just started losing his mind.
• 22:44
  I Hate Talking: Parking and trying to go crazy, which is not necessarily like him.
• 22:52
  I Hate Talking: So you went outside and you saw that there was a possum in the chicken run.
• 22:56
  I Hate Talking: The chickens were luckily in their coop already, door closed.
• 23:02
  I Hate Talking: He was trying to get in there.
• 23:04
  I Hate Talking: So our dog was trying to get them, and then you had to go on the hunt.
• 23:08
  I Hate Talking: Or the possum.
• 23:10
  I Hate Talking: And um I was very scared.
• 23:13
  I Hate Talking: Possums, for some reason, scare me really bad.
• 23:17
  I Hate Talking: We've had a couple try to get our chickens.
• 23:19
  I Hate Talking: I don't like when you look at them and they, they look like they're smiling at you.
• 23:25
  I Hate Talking: I know they're not, but there's like this smirk that seems so condescending or I don't know, I don't like them.
• 23:34
  I Hate Talking: I don't like being around them.
• 23:36
  I Hate Talking: So I was very thankful that you took care of it, and all I had to do was take care of our dog.
• 23:41
  I Hate Talking: And get him in the house, so he didn't um cause disrupt any more of your heroic actions.
• 23:50
  I Hate Talking: There you go.
• 23:51
  I Hate Talking: So, And it was actually our second encounter with a possum in the chicken run.
• 23:58
  I Hate Talking: And who knows if it was the same possum, it very well may have been.
• 24:02
  I Hate Talking: Uh, we did give that particular possum that we first encountered a out, basically, uh, let him go on his way once we cleared him from the chicken area and got him outside of the fence and, uh, onto his way into the forest.
• 24:20
  I Hate Talking: And this particular second incursion was met with more force just because he had one chance, um, again, maybe not the same possum, but.
• 24:32
  I Hate Talking: Uh, they had their chance and this time, uh, we were going to protect our chickens.
• 24:38
  I Hate Talking: -- Possums -- as a whole.
• 24:40
  I Hate Talking: In the universe had their chance and now we are protecting our chickens is what you're saying.
• 24:46
  I Hate Talking: Precisely and personally, I don't know if I have that much of a problem with possums, uh, and that's probably why we gave the first possum the benefit of the doubt, uh, even though there was, uh, that particular incursion.
• 25:01
  I Hate Talking: -- Do you -- agree they smirk at you?
• 25:03
  I Hate Talking: They're just happy to see you.
• 25:04
  I Hate Talking: No, they're so condescending.
• 25:07
  I Hate Talking: They're like, look what I'm doing to your precious pets.
• 25:10
  I Hate Talking: But they actually are relatively clean creatures and will help with control of pests like ticks and other unwanted insects and uh they will typically not really Uh, cause too much damage to your plant life or yard, unlike, uh, like armadillos or something which, uh, would fall more in the category of something that I would want to avoid.
• 25:36
  I Hate Talking: Rather than a possum.
• 25:39
  I Hate Talking: Right, yeah.
• 25:40
  I Hate Talking: So, if I have to do one or the other, I definitely would have a possum, cause armadillos carry disease and stuff, potentially, right?
• 25:47
  I Hate Talking: Supposedly, but I guess you have to eat them, is what I've heard, but who knows, uh, but did not have to deal with any armadillos in this particular case, so we took care of the possum, dispatched the possum, saved the chickens, and we're the hero of the day.
• 26:05
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, you were, and I think the chickens understood cause they knew something was happening cause they were noisier than normal.
• 26:14
  I Hate Talking: While you're doing it all.
• 26:16
  I Hate Talking: So I think you did save all those little lady chickens and even our roosters and our family.
• 26:22
  I Hate Talking: And our one of our sons is desperate.
• 26:26
  I Hate Talking: He made you promise to let him go.
• 26:28
  I Hate Talking: Awesome hunting with you sometime.
• 26:31
  I Hate Talking: The very next day he woke up and he's like, why did dad not send me to go possum hunting?
• 26:37
  I Hate Talking: Like, we don't, we don't do this every night.
• 26:39
  I Hate Talking: This isn't a hobby.
• 26:40
  I Hate Talking: Daddy had to protect the chickens, and he was in on the chicken run.
• 26:45
  I Hate Talking: Precisely.
• 26:47
  I Hate Talking: So, perhaps next time we'll have.
• 26:50
  I Hate Talking: Some additional heroes.
• 26:53
  I Hate Talking: Take care of the possums.
• 26:56
  I Hate Talking: Much better than me that stood by the door and just watched you.
• 27:01
  I Hate Talking: Indeed, so.
• 27:03
  I Hate Talking: Before we adjourn, I think we would be remiss if we did not mention one more definition of the word hero, and that is a submarine sandwich, also commonly known as sub hoagie, Italian grinder, wedge, or hero.
• 27:20
  I Hate Talking: Why do they call it a hero sandwich?
• 27:22
  I Hate Talking: Well, we'll ask the Almighty Google.
• 27:24
  I Hate Talking: Uh legend has it that the term hero originated in New York City where Italian immigrants who worked at local delis and sandwich shops would assemble these hefty sandwiches for their customers.
• 27:36
  I Hate Talking: The name Hero was said to be inspired by the heroic appetites of the workers who devoured these substantial meals.
• 27:42
  I Hate Talking: OK, sure.
• 27:45
  I Hate Talking: Sure.
• 27:46
  I Hate Talking: There we go.
• 27:47
  I Hate Talking: So a bit of a different episode, uh, a lot more time spent on our particular word or phrase of the episode along with a number of references from our different volumes.
• 27:58
  I Hate Talking: Uh, but also some anecdotal stories about heroes themselves.
• 28:03
  I Hate Talking: Mhm.
• 28:04
  I Hate Talking: So, from your friends at IH Talking, until next time, remember, it is only through talking that we begin the journey to understanding.