Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Bill Bellamy Talks Comedy Tour, Shannon Sharpe, Diddy's Rise & Fall, Hip-Hop's Legacy + More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
- 0:02Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club. Yup, mister w Ald, most dangerous morning show,
- 0:05Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club. Charlamagne and God, DJ Envy and Jessa out.
- 0:09Speaker 2: But Laura Leroe says here and we got the legendary,
- 0:11Speaker 2: the iconic Bill Bellamy is in the building.
- 0:14Speaker 1: I love it. I love it.
- 0:15Speaker 2: I love the Breakfast Club. We hell no, you are
- 0:18Speaker 2: aging amazingly.
- 0:19Speaker 1: Thank you man. You know I'm only seventy three and
- 0:24Speaker 1: ain't nothing but coconut water, Lauren. You know, you get
- 0:26Speaker 1: coconut water, get cup of strawberry blueberries, a little bit
- 0:29Speaker 1: of shape. Buddy, you look like that.
- 0:30Speaker 2: But you playing or you just turned sixty a couple
- 0:32Speaker 2: of weeks ago. That is an amazing sixty, my brother.
- 0:35Speaker 1: Thank you man.
- 0:35Speaker 2: But I don't know what sixty is supposed to look
- 0:37Speaker 2: like because I'm comparing it to what we grew up on.
- 0:39Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, we didn'tnew. We didn't know. We
- 0:41Speaker 1: didn knew because you know, back in the day, if
- 0:43Speaker 1: you told somebody who was sixty years old, they'd be like, man,
- 0:46Speaker 1: I just got me some pancakes from our hot.
- 0:49Speaker 2: You know, for free. Yeah, yeah, you know.
- 0:51Speaker 1: Now you know, we move and groover, we work out.
- 0:53Speaker 1: You taking care of yourself. You know what I'm saying.
- 0:55Speaker 2: We know what we eating, that's right, you know what
- 0:57Speaker 2: I mean.
- 0:57Speaker 1: You watch it diet and you know, if you has
- 1:00Speaker 1: to have good health, you look good.
- 1:02Speaker 2: Do you take advantage of that kind of stuff though,
- 1:03Speaker 2: like the free pancakes from my hop and all of the.
- 1:05Speaker 1: Man I haven't really leaned into the scene city thing,
- 1:08Speaker 1: but I really think I need to get like some
- 1:10Speaker 1: of them little benefits and stuff. Yeah, I don't have one.
- 1:15Speaker 1: You think I should pull up.
- 1:16Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like that's the right of past.
- 1:17Speaker 1: Right, But I just don't want to be unk everywhere.
- 1:22Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, I'm getting unk now,
- 1:24Speaker 1: I'm getting o G. O G is kind of like
- 1:27Speaker 1: on the basketball court, be making me feel like I
- 1:29Speaker 1: can't play no more.
- 1:31Speaker 2: You want the ball, I'm.
- 1:32Speaker 3: Like, yeah, might not helping you up off the ground,
- 1:35Speaker 3: calling you.
- 1:36Speaker 1: But it's it's a tricky thing. O G is cool
- 1:39Speaker 1: unk just in certain cases. And I'll be honest with you.
- 1:42Speaker 1: I was in a club where was I recently and
- 1:44Speaker 1: I felt.
- 1:45Speaker 2: Like, you need to go home?
- 1:47Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know this music because because some of
- 1:52Speaker 1: the music I just don't know. I feel like I
- 1:55Speaker 1: just missed it, like uh, like I love glow Rilla,
- 1:58Speaker 1: but she got this joint that's so. But all the
- 2:00Speaker 1: girls know the words and I ain't know nothing. That's
- 2:03Speaker 1: when I feel like I gotta go home.
- 2:07Speaker 2: What is it? How does it go? Tell me? She
- 2:09Speaker 2: got so much? Since?
- 2:10Speaker 1: Yeah, it was?
- 2:12Speaker 3: Is it sexy? Rad too?
- 2:14Speaker 2: Yes?
- 2:15Speaker 3: Okay independent?
- 2:18Speaker 1: Yes, every girl in there from twenty five to thirty
- 2:22Speaker 1: five was going crazy and I met the bar like, man,
- 2:25Speaker 1: I gotta go home.
- 2:26Speaker 2: Man, y'all ain't playing by nature. Y'all, y'all don't know track.
- 2:34Speaker 2: But that's funny when you say, because like when you
- 2:37Speaker 2: get to a certain age, when you think about everybody
- 2:40Speaker 2: who didn't make it from our culture, correct, does that
- 2:42Speaker 2: make you appreciate it more? Yo? Man?
- 2:44Speaker 1: Honestly yes, yes, yes, a very very good thing you said,
- 2:47Speaker 1: because you know what, to have a long career is
- 2:49Speaker 1: a blessing.
- 2:50Speaker 2: You don't know.
- 2:51Speaker 1: And then we lost so many people that came up
- 2:52Speaker 1: with us. Charlemagne, you've been my boy forever, like we
- 2:55Speaker 1: came up like at around the same time, like we
- 2:57Speaker 1: went to the same school kind.
- 2:59Speaker 2: Of thing, you know what I mean.
- 3:00Speaker 1: We've seen you know, from the Little Kim days to
- 3:04Speaker 1: you know, let's say boys the Men that ninety early nineties.
- 3:08Speaker 1: I remember when Buster Rheims and first got on with
- 3:12Speaker 1: leaders of the New School. I remember like the Deaf
- 3:14Speaker 1: Jam offices, like the Source magazine, like all that energy
- 3:19Speaker 1: of the nineties. I remember when Q Tip went solo.
- 3:22Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, L like ladies man rap,
- 3:26Speaker 1: like like there's so many moments of hip hop that
- 3:29Speaker 1: we experienced, and to think now, I'm like, man, that's
- 3:32Speaker 1: such a great time for us to be able to
- 3:34Speaker 1: experience it. I mean, I remember interviewing Michael Jackson, Like
- 3:38Speaker 1: how many people did it?
- 3:39Speaker 2: Just think about that, how many.
- 3:40Speaker 1: People interviewed like they not even Like if you would
- 3:44Speaker 1: have told me twenty years ago Michael Jackson would not
- 3:46Speaker 1: be alive, Like that doesn't make sense. Like I always
- 3:49Speaker 1: thought like them dudes would live forever, Like Prince like
- 3:51Speaker 1: he was so damn cool, Michael was so damn cool,
- 3:54Speaker 1: Whitney Jersey girl, Like I have all these wonderful memories
- 3:59Speaker 1: of these people left eye, you know, damn Like we
- 4:03Speaker 1: did all this stuff with MTV when people were just
- 4:07Speaker 1: coming up, people getting on, people getting accepted, they starting
- 4:10Speaker 1: to go platinum.
- 4:11Speaker 2: So you young, you don't even know it was young.
- 4:13Speaker 1: I got to make sure.
- 4:16Speaker 2: I make sure.
- 4:17Speaker 1: But like like I remember when Usher went diamond. I
- 4:20Speaker 1: remember when the Fuji's went diamond like diamond was like
- 4:23Speaker 1: way out did like you told somebody you went diamond?
- 4:26Speaker 2: Like what?
- 4:27Speaker 1: And that was real albums I'm talking about.
- 4:30Speaker 3: I think it's just different for y'all because people had
- 4:31Speaker 3: to go and get the you know what I mean.
- 4:33Speaker 3: Like right now we're streaming, so it's like, okay, cool,
- 4:35Speaker 3: that's people listening. Different when all these people were going
- 4:38Speaker 3: to the store.
- 4:38Speaker 1: Nobody is going to the record store like me and
- 4:40Speaker 1: Charla Man Me and Charlamagne Knew. Remember tow Records here
- 4:44Speaker 1: in New York. We remember when it was the album released.
- 4:48Speaker 1: People was lined up to get your album. Remember I
- 4:50Speaker 1: remember taking the plaf Remember when you remember when you
- 4:53Speaker 1: couldn't get.
- 4:53Speaker 2: The plastic You needed a razor.
- 4:56Speaker 1: You had to take a key and get the damn
- 4:58Speaker 1: album out and then you read then you did you
- 5:00Speaker 1: ever get a thank you?
- 5:02Speaker 2: Did you ever? Like I wasn't around. I'm forty six,
- 5:06Speaker 2: so I started getting thank you later on, Like but
- 5:08Speaker 2: that was like early two thousands.
- 5:10Speaker 1: Like when you would get the album and you'd be like, YO,
- 5:12Speaker 1: want to shout out made for your support on my
- 5:16Speaker 1: album or whatever, and then I would read all the
- 5:17Speaker 1: producers and stuff like that.
- 5:19Speaker 2: Those days are open. You don't even get artwork.
- 5:21Speaker 3: What thank you for? You get artwork?
- 5:22Speaker 2: No, you don't get You don't get Are you just
- 5:24Speaker 2: getting Christmas song?
- 5:26Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a special thing if they released like
- 5:28Speaker 3: artwork and images, and normally it's like merch and like
- 5:30Speaker 3: something swaggy.
- 5:31Speaker 2: So you got to buy a T shirt to get artwork?
- 5:33Speaker 3: Now yeah, less people do know what you're talking about
- 5:37Speaker 3: t shirts.
- 5:38Speaker 2: You talk about the album.
- 5:39Speaker 3: I know what he's talking about. But I'm not that old.
- 5:42Speaker 3: I mean that young, Like I had the definite writings
- 5:45Speaker 3: on the Walls two side album I had Michael Jackson.
- 5:49Speaker 2: Did you ever go to a drive in theater?
- 5:51Speaker 1: No?
- 5:52Speaker 3: I did, But it was like a cool vintage experience
- 5:54Speaker 3: that like we blogged like it was not.
- 5:57Speaker 2: Have Michael Jackson thriller? Why would you tell that long?
- 5:59Speaker 2: I saw it was you on.
- 6:00Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety one? My mom added, I remember going and
- 6:05Speaker 3: buying that album, and like you had, they opened up
- 6:08Speaker 3: like this, like and they had all the writings on
- 6:10Speaker 3: Oh see that, go.
- 6:11Speaker 1: Ahead, girl, you're writing a Patton.
- 6:13Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you're young old now you hear about
- 6:15Speaker 2: a lot of this in the top building. But just
- 6:17Speaker 2: talk to the people. What was then interviewing Michael? Like
- 6:19Speaker 2: somebody literally asked me that this weekend you haven't you
- 6:21Speaker 2: have an interviewed Michael.
- 6:22Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, Michael. Interview of Michael Jackson was like
- 6:26Speaker 1: talking to uh, you know, a prince, a king of
- 6:31Speaker 1: some sort of some royalty. Because the way he moved,
- 6:34Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like he was to me
- 6:36Speaker 1: the epitome of being a rock star, superstar. He had
- 6:39Speaker 1: Like if he was in here right now, it'd be
- 6:41Speaker 1: thirty people here, thirty people that you don't know what
- 6:45Speaker 1: they do, but they look like they killed people. Three
- 6:48Speaker 1: four publicists, you got the record label people, you got
- 6:52Speaker 1: his personal people, and and then everything it's just like,
- 6:56Speaker 1: oh my god, like you don't want to make a mistake,
- 6:58Speaker 1: and he comes in every thing set up the lighting.
- 7:01Speaker 1: You just like like I'd be sitting there like this,
- 7:06Speaker 1: well we're gonna do this, and is people will be like, no,
- 7:08Speaker 1: Michael's gonna do three five and nine. Thank you, that's
- 7:12Speaker 1: how they used to be. I'm like, he had his
- 7:14Speaker 1: own lighting person, Like you ever heard of a person
- 7:17Speaker 1: having a cinematographer for a interview.
- 7:21Speaker 2: Ryan Carey came in the studio and had them had
- 7:24Speaker 2: her team sent up lights and I was like, Pearl,
- 7:26Speaker 2: and I said, Mariah, they only gonna be able to
- 7:28Speaker 2: see you. And she was like, that's the point, that's
- 7:30Speaker 2: the whole darling.
- 7:32Speaker 3: Yo, how did the lighting people get there before Michael
- 7:34Speaker 3: got there two hours?
- 7:37Speaker 1: That same thing that he said is true because I
- 7:39Speaker 1: interviewed Mariah Carey in Hawaii and Jermaine was there too,
- 7:44Speaker 1: and I was like, jd where's Mariah. He was like, yo, man,
- 7:47Speaker 1: Mariah be down. About three hours. We waited her man
- 7:50Speaker 1: to get hit DP. I didn't know what that was
- 7:52Speaker 1: at the time, so I was like, say, that's Daniel Pearl,
- 7:55Speaker 1: he'll be here. He like all of Mariah's stuff, Right,
- 7:58Speaker 1: this dude comes. He got like ten people they like
- 8:01Speaker 1: they doing the little thing. Turned that down to thirty percent,
- 8:05Speaker 1: put that up to ten five. It looks like Heaven, Heaven, heaven, everybody,
- 8:11Speaker 1: Heaven bring Maray out because the lighting was heaven, Swear
- 8:15Speaker 1: to God. I was sitting out there black. I got
- 8:17Speaker 1: so black. I was sitting out there with just like, man,
- 8:20Speaker 1: she'll be here in another hour. They didn't even give
- 8:22Speaker 1: me no water. This back in the day MTV stuff.
- 8:25Speaker 2: What happened to that era?
- 8:26Speaker 1: Man?
- 8:26Speaker 2: Like, can you even build a superstar like that anymore?
- 8:31Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess on TikTok. I learned a lot of
- 8:36Speaker 1: great artists on TikTok. I've just just come up with
- 8:38Speaker 1: my feed because you know, when I came up back
- 8:41Speaker 1: in the day, we knew who was dropping. We knew
- 8:44Speaker 1: that the new Beyonce album was dropping. We knew Jay
- 8:47Speaker 1: was dropping something. We knew that, you know, Redman and
- 8:50Speaker 1: Meth was doing something. Now I'll get a TikTok video
- 8:53Speaker 1: that's a challenge or something. I click on that and
- 8:56Speaker 1: then I find an artist and I'm like yo, and
- 8:58Speaker 1: I lock it in. That's how I've been doing it lately.
- 9:00Speaker 2: But can those people become those superstar global icons we're
- 9:04Speaker 2: talking about, Cause I feel like there's a level, Because
- 9:06Speaker 2: I feel like there's a level of what's the world,
- 9:09Speaker 2: There's a level of curation that's not happening anymore.
- 9:12Speaker 1: Well, you know what we missed a few steps. You
- 9:15Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, I'll give you a perfect example,
- 9:17Speaker 1: Leon Thomas, Love Love Love leon Thomas. Right, I got
- 9:22Speaker 1: windowed Leon Thomas by mistake. Mutt was on Instagram and
- 9:29Speaker 1: it was doing somebody was doing a was singing his song,
- 9:32Speaker 1: trying to do like a version of it. I said, Damn,
- 9:35Speaker 1: this shit's kind of dope. I go click on that.
- 9:37Speaker 1: Then I clicked to him and I'm like, oh, then
- 9:39Speaker 1: there's a Chris Brown remix.
- 9:41Speaker 2: I had to click to that.
- 9:42Speaker 1: Now I down like with all that on Spotify, That's
- 9:45Speaker 1: how I'm finding artists. It's like, what the fuck? You
- 9:48Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's like, damn, they don't promote
- 9:50Speaker 1: the artists like they used to. Coco Jones right now
- 9:53Speaker 1: on Fire.
- 9:55Speaker 2: Label won't even send her music to the ratio.
- 9:58Speaker 1: You said that. I was like, what why would they
- 10:00Speaker 1: do that?
- 10:00Speaker 2: I have to it does and Andre Martinez.
- 10:02Speaker 1: It's like, what are you doing? It's like nobody gets
- 10:04Speaker 1: the press kid sent out no more where they really
- 10:07Speaker 1: show you what the what the project is, how they
- 10:10Speaker 1: gonna promote it, and what the how much money they
- 10:12Speaker 1: putting behind the artists, like Cocle Jones is Fire like
- 10:16Speaker 1: she's in a pocket right now to me, and you
- 10:19Speaker 1: know I love her music. I like, give me on
- 10:22Speaker 1: h Do everybody know I do? I think he's dope
- 10:26Speaker 1: as hell. I'm trying to think of somebody else that
- 10:29Speaker 1: I just was like, Oh, snap, snow Allegra, Oh god Lee,
- 10:33Speaker 1: what snow is? Bananas? Is there like a big big
- 10:40Speaker 1: I had Danny Lee on my on my podcast, she's
- 10:43Speaker 1: dope too. Then all of a sudden, I don't even
- 10:45Speaker 1: hear nothing. It's like, Yo, she was rolling rolling Maida?
- 10:48Speaker 1: Is it Mada or Maa? Mighta Meda? Meida? Am I
- 10:51Speaker 1: saying it the right wing Medada? She's a new artist.
- 10:56Speaker 1: She was on my podcast super Dope. I give you
- 11:00Speaker 1: one more guy, Tone Stiff. You know him? See you
- 11:05Speaker 1: know Tone and you young, you better google.
- 11:10Speaker 2: In your mind.
- 11:14Speaker 1: It's a real artist. But more importantly, you know what
- 11:17Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, as much as I love music, I'm
- 11:20Speaker 1: trying to incorporate that vibe to my to my my
- 11:23Speaker 1: new tour, Top Build because it's like I feel like
- 11:27Speaker 1: it's going to bring people away, bring people together in
- 11:30Speaker 1: a way that they're going to be very very nostalgic.
- 11:32Speaker 1: Because I feel like, you know, what we're talking about
- 11:35Speaker 1: is it exists in people. They just don't have anybody
- 11:38Speaker 1: to bring it together. And that's what I want to be.
- 11:40Speaker 1: I want to be like that. That be gonna like
- 11:42Speaker 1: to bring music, comedy in a moment of hip hop
- 11:45Speaker 1: that is just incredible to the people. That's what I
- 11:48Speaker 1: really wanted it to feel like. When you leave, you're like, damn, man,
- 11:51Speaker 1: I got way more than I thought, you know what
- 11:53Speaker 1: I mean. And I feel like that's really possible. Now
- 11:55Speaker 1: we've got social media, you can shot shot our clips
- 11:59Speaker 1: to people. They could see a little bit of your show,
- 12:01Speaker 1: see what's going on. Like, Yo, I'm going to see
- 12:03Speaker 1: that stuff. Whenever I play anything with Mary, Mary, Mary
- 12:09Speaker 1: just she just does it for the ladies, everybody Mary
- 12:13Speaker 1: something else.
- 12:14Speaker 2: But I don't know.
- 12:14Speaker 1: The other day I seen it with them boots on
- 12:16Speaker 1: her look like her ankles with her.
- 12:17Speaker 2: You're seeing her own thing. She's looking like she looks
- 12:21Speaker 2: like she'd be tired. Yeah, Mar Mary.
- 12:24Speaker 1: I came up with, Man, I love me some Mary.
- 12:27Speaker 1: Boom boom boom boom, Yo. I just love this part
- 12:30Speaker 1: right here.
- 12:30Speaker 2: Boom boom boom.
- 12:31Speaker 1: She got the little bump to it, just like that
- 12:33Speaker 1: one hit.
- 12:34Speaker 2: Hurt shout out. Now you married. Now you haven't done
- 12:42Speaker 2: a special since twenty twenty two, right, so it's top
- 12:45Speaker 2: billing working towards that.
- 12:47Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, So I think right now I have an
- 12:52Speaker 1: hour of comedy that is crazy funny, Like I think
- 12:58Speaker 1: nobody's talking about what I'm talking about right now. It's
- 13:02Speaker 1: very relevant. I mean, it's so much stuff going on
- 13:06Speaker 1: right now, from Diddy to Shannon Shop to sho Door,
- 13:11Speaker 1: Like there's so many elements in the culture that everybody's
- 13:14Speaker 1: thinking about, like, oh my god, and I want to
- 13:17Speaker 1: capture this moment because it's right now. So I'm really
- 13:21Speaker 1: trying to tape soon so that everything that I'm talking
- 13:23Speaker 1: about will be indicative of this moment in the culture.
- 13:28Speaker 3: I was gonna say, how are you, because I know
- 13:29Speaker 3: you got the podcast, but like you obviously you're so
- 13:32Speaker 3: aware of everything because of your background and like interviews
- 13:34Speaker 3: and stuff. How do you bring the podcast to the stage,
- 13:38Speaker 3: Like are you shooting the podcast?
- 13:40Speaker 1: I usually shoot the podcast in the studio. I'm going
- 13:45Speaker 1: to try to do the podcast live too, because I
- 13:48Speaker 1: think it would be kind of nice to be able
- 13:50Speaker 1: to have the energy of the people there too, and
- 13:53Speaker 1: then they could you know, ask people questions doing my interviews,
- 13:56Speaker 1: and then we could have like some interaction and shoot
- 13:58Speaker 1: it that way. I think that could brings some different
- 14:01Speaker 1: energy in season two.
- 14:03Speaker 3: I just think it's interesting because there's a lot of
- 14:04Speaker 3: people who try to intertwine all of that, but like
- 14:06Speaker 3: they're not really as up to date in like current
- 14:09Speaker 3: as you are. Like you just write it off. I'm
- 14:11Speaker 3: just sitting here listening. You just rattle off so much,
- 14:12Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, he's on the headlines. Oh yeah,
- 14:15Speaker 3: your background, you know what you you know what I mean.
- 14:17Speaker 1: Well, you have to be a student of the game
- 14:19Speaker 1: as well. Like for me, I have to read all
- 14:21Speaker 1: the time. So like at night when the house is quiet,
- 14:24Speaker 1: I'm reading every publication, I'm listening to music. I have
- 14:29Speaker 1: to stay in the culture because it's like there's stuff.
- 14:32Speaker 1: It's a language. The culture is a language, right, and
- 14:34Speaker 1: so if you get outside the language and then you
- 14:37Speaker 1: try to come back, you're gonna sound dated. You're gonna
- 14:39Speaker 1: sound like, oh, they don't even talk like that no more,
- 14:42Speaker 1: or whatever, you know what I mean. So for me,
- 14:43Speaker 1: it's very important for me to stay very very relevant
- 14:46Speaker 1: and conscious of what's popping, you know. I watch you,
- 14:49Speaker 1: I watch you now, I watch Jazz, I watched the
- 14:52Speaker 1: New Comedians, I watch you know, the news and seeing like,
- 14:55Speaker 1: oh shoot, I watched the headlines that's popping off on
- 14:58Speaker 1: social media, like, oh, everybody's talking about this. What's what's
- 15:01Speaker 1: the deal? You know what I'm saying, Get in the
- 15:02Speaker 1: trenches with it. Oh wow, this is a good angle.
- 15:06Speaker 1: So what I do with comedy is I'll take like
- 15:08Speaker 1: something that's that's a real subject matter and flip it.
- 15:11Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
- 15:12Speaker 1: And now you you laughing, but you're like, oh my god,
- 15:15Speaker 1: that's crazy. What made him say that? Because you got
- 15:17Speaker 1: to know it?
- 15:18Speaker 2: So how do you flip something like the Shannon Sharp situation?
- 15:20Speaker 1: We just well, first of all, Shannon Sharp did not
- 15:23Speaker 1: see how to be a player at all. Okay, so
- 15:26Speaker 1: let's just just let's get that out.
- 15:28Speaker 2: He must have missed the vhs and the DVD release
- 15:34Speaker 2: you got yo.
- 15:36Speaker 1: He fifty six years old. He should have seen it coming.
- 15:39Speaker 1: It was right on, what's that sound? Your ass is coming?
- 15:42Speaker 2: It's coming?
- 15:43Speaker 1: What's the man? Skip should have known not skip sharing,
- 15:47Speaker 1: and Sharp should have known when when that first tape
- 15:50Speaker 1: leak that we gotta slow down.
- 15:52Speaker 2: It's a little bit. It's a little bit too much.
- 15:54Speaker 1: Yeah, baby, with that talk to it. Yeah, I ain't
- 15:59Speaker 1: need know I was live. They tell me, baby, at
- 16:02Speaker 1: least now now if you are going live and you
- 16:04Speaker 1: don't know what you two, if you.
- 16:08Speaker 4: Don't even know of and you gotta click click to
- 16:13Speaker 4: do it. So he wanted to be live. They don't, baby, Joe,
- 16:17Speaker 4: Daddy what it did him? Daddy what it did?
- 16:20Speaker 1: Right? He full throttle got caught on that one. Everything
- 16:24Speaker 1: should have been shut down, went to some type of class.
- 16:27Speaker 1: You can't talk nasty no more. You can't talk nasty, shennon,
- 16:31Speaker 1: calm down, Get you a nice, nice, solid woman on
- 16:35Speaker 1: to the corner that and just lay load for a
- 16:37Speaker 1: minute to listen. What is it not even eight nine
- 16:40Speaker 1: months later?
- 16:42Speaker 2: That had been that long?
- 16:43Speaker 1: It is he backing them streets? Damn, you mess up
- 16:48Speaker 1: the bag. I'm telling you right now. White girls can't
- 16:52Speaker 1: even say nothing to me. I was at the dog
- 16:54Speaker 1: part of his wife said, oh nice, sorry, I took
- 16:55Speaker 1: my dog and ran I wouldn't even trying to im.
- 17:00Speaker 2: I'm like, Jonathan, what about the age difference? Because when
- 17:07Speaker 2: he met us, she was nineteen.
- 17:10Speaker 1: Thank god, thank god, she was nineteen. It's too far. See,
- 17:13Speaker 1: I got a young daughter, so I can't even process
- 17:17Speaker 1: my daughter's twenty one. So I'm thinking. I'm thinking, like
- 17:20Speaker 1: my daughter, I'm me and Shannon in the alley wake scraping.
- 17:24Speaker 1: I can't wear that. But you know what I'm saying,
- 17:26Speaker 1: these cats, I don't know, athletes are different. I just
- 17:31Speaker 1: be honest. I think it's a it's a difference with
- 17:33Speaker 1: these type of guys, Like they get they get attracted
- 17:36Speaker 1: to certain things that are different, like like, why do
- 17:39Speaker 1: like most football players like strip clubs. I don't know.
- 17:43Speaker 1: They just like that. I mean when I did any
- 17:45Speaker 1: given study, that's what we was in strip club. Come on, dog,
- 17:47Speaker 1: let go see the girl. Man, brial talk may blow
- 17:49Speaker 1: off some things. Drink a little bit, get back to
- 17:51Speaker 1: the to the you know, to the hotel.
- 17:53Speaker 2: You saw one this weekend in the script club.
- 17:56Speaker 1: Football players love strip clubs forever because of.
- 17:59Speaker 3: Their like their their industry takes so much like aggression
- 18:03Speaker 3: and like, ah.
- 18:04Speaker 1: So they like, I don't know what it is, man,
- 18:06Speaker 1: I just think that it's a fantasy, you know what
- 18:09Speaker 1: I mean? And I think once the fantasy is sort
- 18:12Speaker 1: of sparked, like that's the kind of women they are attracted to,
- 18:15Speaker 1: Like I don't know why you know, Shannon Sharp would
- 18:17Speaker 1: have to get a girl from OnlyFans. I mean that
- 18:21Speaker 1: seemed that's crazy. It's crazy, like you couldn't just get
- 18:24Speaker 1: a regular fan, got to get an I mean you're subscriber,
- 18:31Speaker 1: like you subscribing.
- 18:32Speaker 2: You rich like somebody with the extra token. Turn around, baby,
- 18:42Speaker 2: let me see.
- 18:42Speaker 1: It, Like yo, yo, what are you doing? Like come
- 18:49Speaker 1: on man, it's like you here's the thing when you
- 18:54Speaker 1: with Mickey Mouse, Mickey Mouth, that's this. You gotta keep
- 18:58Speaker 1: it clean. You can't benhing, baby, you can't. No, no, no,
- 19:03Speaker 1: can't do that now.
- 19:04Speaker 2: But you said something that's important, like you said after
- 19:06Speaker 2: the first situation, you gotta slow down. But you said
- 19:09Speaker 2: he should have went to like some type of class something.
- 19:11Speaker 2: Development isn't there no more for nobody. It's not there
- 19:15Speaker 2: for personalities. Like you got people that literally going in
- 19:17Speaker 2: their living room and becoming like these phenomenons overnight because
- 19:21Speaker 2: the podcast and YouTube.
- 19:26Speaker 3: Wave.
- 19:28Speaker 1: This this is like he was always dope, you know,
- 19:30Speaker 1: football player, always Hall of Fame da da da, But
- 19:33Speaker 1: this is a wave like he got like boom. You know,
- 19:35Speaker 1: Cat Wims gave him that boom. You know, it's it's
- 19:39Speaker 1: like then you get on on, you leave skip boom,
- 19:42Speaker 1: come to ESPN. That's like that's a rocking wave, right,
- 19:46Speaker 1: so you know you rolling, you know, the light on,
- 19:49Speaker 1: you gotta kind of be careful. He needed an auntie. Man. See,
- 19:53Speaker 1: this is what's lost in the culture, old school black auntie.
- 19:56Speaker 1: Auntie be like, shait you can't do that baby, now,
- 20:00Speaker 1: you done got too nasty.
- 20:02Speaker 2: He tried to tell him. Yeah, yeah, mo yeah.
- 20:06Speaker 1: Mother was trying to help her. But you know he
- 20:09Speaker 1: he liked what he likes. What you're gonna do? Now?
- 20:11Speaker 1: Can you wear it? See what I'm saying? Can you
- 20:14Speaker 1: wear it? Now? So what do we do from here?
- 20:16Speaker 2: Like?
- 20:16Speaker 1: How do you?
- 20:17Speaker 2: How do you?
- 20:19Speaker 1: How do you? Olivia Pope that what would you do?
- 20:21Speaker 2: Like?
- 20:21Speaker 1: What do you do?
- 20:22Speaker 5: I mean, I mean he ain't killed nobody, you know
- 20:24Speaker 5: what I'm saying, He's just nasty.
- 20:33Speaker 2: Now there's other stories, more stuff. Well it's it's stuff
- 20:37Speaker 2: that has been documented before prior, like like actual legal things.
- 20:42Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, see I don't know she Charlamagne, you be
- 20:44Speaker 1: in the but after the Lord, I mean Lord, you
- 20:46Speaker 1: know all the you know, the good like it's a
- 20:48Speaker 1: lot more to it than this.
- 20:49Speaker 3: I mean, it's out in the BDSM. There's it's out,
- 20:54Speaker 3: there's other there's a woman who just came out recently
- 20:56Speaker 3: and dropped the defamation lawsuit talking about sexual assault.
- 21:00Speaker 1: Okay, so he walked away from networks before. So this
- 21:05Speaker 1: beat is like, that's the bonded stuff. Is that what
- 21:09Speaker 1: we're talking about?
- 21:10Speaker 3: You sixty years old?
- 21:11Speaker 1: You know. I know I'm just saying, okay, so I mean,
- 21:14Speaker 1: you know.
- 21:16Speaker 3: That's the best thing to do.
- 21:16Speaker 1: But ye know, I'm just saying like that that that
- 21:20Speaker 1: is a that's a lane. So I mean, that's a lane.
- 21:23Speaker 1: Let's be honest. That's a lane.
- 21:26Speaker 2: I'll just say.
- 21:27Speaker 1: You might have come out with super T shirts.
- 21:29Speaker 2: He's got the funk.
- 21:35Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 21:36Speaker 2: I don't know. That's this tricky lane.
- 21:39Speaker 1: That's like driving your car one hundred miles an hour
- 21:41Speaker 1: with no seatbelt. Ship gonna happen, You dig like, that's
- 21:45Speaker 1: a tricky laye because it's edgy. That's what I think
- 21:49Speaker 1: is the poor for people. It's so edgy. But it
- 21:51Speaker 1: can always go left because where's the line. Where's the
- 21:55Speaker 1: line you wilding, where's the line where we could come back?
- 21:58Speaker 2: Or like say this the thing.
- 22:00Speaker 1: That's tricky. You could be all good on Saturday, we
- 22:04Speaker 1: go back to do it against Sunday and you might
- 22:06Speaker 1: not be on that right now.
- 22:07Speaker 2: So now it's a bad deal.
- 22:09Speaker 3: I think at this point, at Shannon Sharp's age, he
- 22:11Speaker 3: should just need he needs to sit still with a person,
- 22:14Speaker 3: like marriage something.
- 22:15Speaker 1: I think he should do a turkey drive.
- 22:17Speaker 2: What turkey drives always fixed suff you around.
- 22:28Speaker 1: Turkeys make people feel good. Man, he give it up turkeys.
- 22:32Speaker 1: He didn't do it.
- 22:39Speaker 3: Somebody And then they send me the photos exclusively.
- 22:44Speaker 2: Yes, I know, Oh my god, you've.
- 22:47Speaker 1: Seen them like, hey, you give me a bunch of
- 22:51Speaker 1: turkeys and summertime. Know you gotta give out turkey share,
- 22:55Speaker 1: that's the trick. Where's my camera right here? Look, do
- 22:59Speaker 1: a turkey drive. Just give out turkeys randomly all over
- 23:02Speaker 1: the country. Here, baby, get going a little turkey. For
- 23:05Speaker 1: getting going a little turkey. By the time they get
- 23:07Speaker 1: that thirty turkey, this would be oh and it got
- 23:12Speaker 1: to be butter ball.
- 23:16Speaker 2: Listen, now you grew up in that era. Oh god,
- 23:19Speaker 2: that's so funny.
- 23:21Speaker 3: He'd be going through minnopore.
- 23:26Speaker 2: Go ahead. When you look at the Diddy situation. Oh
- 23:29Speaker 2: did you ever think the culture of hip hop would
- 23:32Speaker 2: catch up with people the way that it did because
- 23:34Speaker 2: a lot of this is lifestyle.
- 23:37Speaker 1: Ah well, well well well, I'll be honest with you, man,
- 23:40Speaker 1: The Diddy situation is just it's gonna it's gonna hurt us.
- 23:44Speaker 1: It's gonna hurt us all no matter what how it
- 23:47Speaker 1: comes out. But it's gonna hurt the culture because to me,
- 23:51Speaker 1: why I say that is because what he's done, uh before,
- 23:55Speaker 1: the culture, before all of this is phenomenal, Like it
- 23:58Speaker 1: never happened before, you know what I mean saying. So
- 24:01Speaker 1: when I think about his career from where he started
- 24:04Speaker 1: at Uptown in turn doing parties, I feel like, you know,
- 24:11Speaker 1: I was coming up on MTV when bad Boy got
- 24:15Speaker 1: Like I remember Puff literally giving out flyers, like literally
- 24:19Speaker 1: bad Boy T shirt on his shoulder. He out there
- 24:22Speaker 1: with the Street Team. This is when his label was
- 24:24Speaker 1: about to pop off. Cool to cut to becoming you know,
- 24:27Speaker 1: a mogul and you know a god that's an incredible
- 24:30Speaker 1: influencer in the hip hop culture, pop culture right to
- 24:34Speaker 1: come to this point. I didn't see that coming, you
- 24:38Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I know, but I didn't know
- 24:41Speaker 1: like all the other stuff that people are saying like
- 24:44Speaker 1: that's just like all this stuff is just so like,
- 24:47Speaker 1: oh my god, there's so many Oh my guys, no
- 24:49Speaker 1: Turkey drive could fix you know. Yeah, I would never.
- 24:53Speaker 3: Say crazy like.
- 24:58Speaker 1: That's crazy, Like I mean, god, I dang, you know
- 25:01Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because we came up hot. Let me
- 25:04Speaker 1: tell you, the nineties was really a fly ten year
- 25:08Speaker 1: run for everybody that was coming up through it. You know,
- 25:11Speaker 1: cats is getting record deals of substantial money. I remember
- 25:15Speaker 1: when Janet Jackson got her like forty million dollar Virgin
- 25:18Speaker 1: deal or something crazy. Remember they was giving our numbers
- 25:21Speaker 1: for artists, ninety million, this, that and the other whatever whatever.
- 25:25Speaker 1: Puff got a hundred million dollar deal. I remember that,
- 25:27Speaker 1: Like that was a big deal in New York. Like
- 25:29Speaker 1: people was like yo, Puff got his own label. Now
- 25:31Speaker 1: boom boom boom Clive Davis some some something boom ba boom,
- 25:35Speaker 1: hundred million. I'm because I'm interviewing all the artists. So
- 25:39Speaker 1: I'm I'm right there with Craig Mac, I'm there with
- 25:41Speaker 1: with Big, I'm there with Total, I'm there with who
- 25:46Speaker 1: else he had Faith Evans like one twelve. Like, I'm
- 25:50Speaker 1: interviewing all the artists, so I'm seeing this brother Mace,
- 25:56Speaker 1: Oh my god, what you gonna do talking about Island says,
- 26:00Speaker 1: ain't all them in the head bass?
- 26:01Speaker 2: You remember this?
- 26:02Speaker 1: You probably four like I came up with Mason, those
- 26:05Speaker 1: guys in Cameron and guys. So just think about, like,
- 26:09Speaker 1: oh man, I just seen like these guys making money
- 26:11Speaker 1: and our dudes that look like me that came from
- 26:14Speaker 1: situations like me.
- 26:15Speaker 2: We are here eating to now like damn.
- 26:19Speaker 1: So let's say if he even if he were to
- 26:22Speaker 1: get out of it, his images is smashed. So it's like, damn, man,
- 26:27Speaker 1: you could do all this good and do one thing
- 26:30Speaker 1: and people never feel the same, like you know what
- 26:32Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like they'll never look at you the same.
- 26:34Speaker 1: So that's the part that gonna hurt the culture.
- 26:36Speaker 3: To me, I think it's the hold on before I
- 26:39Speaker 3: say that, Why do you think it hurt the culture though?
- 26:41Speaker 3: Because he's because.
- 26:44Speaker 1: Part about culture, like like, no, there's very few people
- 26:47Speaker 1: that did what Puff did for hip hop and like
- 26:51Speaker 1: the culture, like like, very few people have done what
- 26:54Speaker 1: jay Z has done. How many rappers you know, you
- 26:57Speaker 1: know a lot of rappers, but you don't know a
- 26:59Speaker 1: lot of rappers that be came billionaires. You don't know
- 27:01Speaker 1: a lot of rappers that came out the street that
- 27:03Speaker 1: you've seen on the block go from being on a
- 27:06Speaker 1: block to being on a TV show with you from
- 27:09Speaker 1: that to being uh doing world tours to becoming a
- 27:14Speaker 1: mogul like that. That's that's a crazy ride.
- 27:17Speaker 3: Like y is hurt.
- 27:19Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, the legacy of what you've created.
- 27:22Speaker 1: You know, I think about your kids, like I'm thinking
- 27:24Speaker 1: that I have children, So I think about his children
- 27:27Speaker 1: like that's their dad, Like you know there they they
- 27:31Speaker 1: don't want nothing to happen to their dad, you know
- 27:33Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's like what what do you do?
- 27:36Speaker 1: Like how do you take care of your kids? If
- 27:38Speaker 1: you're in a bad situation like that? Like, like what
- 27:40Speaker 1: do you do? Are they trying to take all your money?
- 27:42Speaker 1: You have to stash your money all the way, you
- 27:44Speaker 1: know what I mean? You got you got a family.
- 27:46Speaker 1: He's got like a beautiful family. So now and then
- 27:49Speaker 1: the trib about to start, you're gonna be you go,
- 27:53Speaker 1: are they gonna televise it?
- 27:55Speaker 3: It will be it says that you can't.
- 27:58Speaker 2: Are they gonna televise the open bar?
- 28:01Speaker 1: Not?
- 28:01Speaker 3: Open bar is crazy? It's first come, first served.
- 28:05Speaker 1: Yeah at the trial. That's crazy.
- 28:08Speaker 2: Recording is prohibited, what is it?
- 28:11Speaker 3: Broadcasting and recording is prohibited, but it is first come,
- 28:13Speaker 3: for served for me.
- 28:14Speaker 1: So you can sit in there.
- 28:15Speaker 3: Yeah, you can sit it go in.
- 28:17Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm going because.
- 28:19Speaker 3: To your point is, first of all, I just.
- 28:21Speaker 1: Think it's how you get the opportunity.
- 28:22Speaker 2: That's beautiful.
- 28:25Speaker 1: You're just gonna get up. I'm not.
- 28:28Speaker 2: You're right.
- 28:28Speaker 1: I didn't think of it like that was just like
- 28:29Speaker 1: what maybe they invited you because you're doing.
- 28:31Speaker 3: This and they want Oh no, they did invite me.
- 28:33Speaker 3: I emailed them.
- 28:33Speaker 1: You say, I'm going.
- 28:34Speaker 3: Yeah, but I but I forget. Oh. To your point, though,
- 28:39Speaker 3: the reason why I want to go is because yes,
- 28:40Speaker 3: I want to have like first hand account for the show.
- 28:43Speaker 3: But also to this is something that's happening that I
- 28:45Speaker 3: think for years to come people are going to look
- 28:48Speaker 3: back at like, oh wow, that really happened. So the
- 28:52Speaker 3: account is this is like the.
- 28:53Speaker 1: O J Trial for hip hop for real, like like
- 28:57Speaker 1: like this is like this is going to be like
- 28:59Speaker 1: the o J Trial was in the nineties for hip hop.
- 29:03Speaker 1: Because one of hip hop's biggest pioneers is on trial, Like, Yo,
- 29:08Speaker 1: people gonna be watching it. Watch what I'm telling you.
- 29:10Speaker 1: It's gonna be all over in anything they say in court.
- 29:12Speaker 1: Boom boom boom the charges people that can you know
- 29:15Speaker 1: how many people that's probably gonna testify that we don't
- 29:18Speaker 1: know that's gonna pop up that we know you'd be like,
- 29:21Speaker 1: you're gonna be like yo, snap blah blah blah blah blah.
- 29:26Speaker 2: And some of the testimony gonna be funny. It's gonna
- 29:27Speaker 2: be horrible, but it's gonna be funny. And you know,
- 29:31Speaker 2: you know some of it's gonna be funny.
- 29:33Speaker 1: Ah, it's gonna be a field day for comedians.
- 29:35Speaker 3: I got a real question for you. How you been
- 29:37Speaker 3: around all the time, did all this stuff, but you
- 29:39Speaker 3: ain't never been to a Diddy party.
- 29:41Speaker 1: I didn't get invited like that. I missed it, but
- 29:48Speaker 1: I'm happy. God is good. Wony do it do it?
- 29:53Speaker 2: You ain't got to go to everything, but you was like, look,
- 29:58Speaker 2: I was right there though you were.
- 30:00Speaker 3: I was not today you were, And that was like
- 30:01Speaker 3: the iconic like when they were partying here in New York.
- 30:03Speaker 1: I remember that at Hamptons and all this. Yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep,
- 30:07Speaker 1: I remember all that.
- 30:08Speaker 2: Did you ever have to fight to get hip hop
- 30:10Speaker 2: on MTV back then?
- 30:11Speaker 1: Yeah, man, Charlotmagne, come on, let's you You know what
- 30:15Speaker 1: we did, Okay, So listen, this is how how it was.
- 30:18Speaker 1: So when I came on MTV, it was mostly rock.
- 30:22Speaker 1: There was there was they was tip to one with
- 30:24Speaker 1: hip hop. But we're gonna play a little bit. We're
- 30:25Speaker 1: gonna play a little bit over here with Yo. We
- 30:28Speaker 1: got Yo MTV raps th those guys ed Andre are
- 30:31Speaker 1: doing a great job. Blah blah blah.
- 30:33Speaker 2: I wasn't even on the channel yet.
- 30:35Speaker 1: So now we're getting this, this hybrid show that's going
- 30:39Speaker 1: to show you that hip hop is crossing over a
- 30:42Speaker 1: little bit. We're not only gonna do nas, but we're
- 30:44Speaker 1: gonna do Salt and Pepper. We're gonna do l L.
- 30:47Speaker 1: We're gonna do Leaders in the New School. We're gonna
- 30:50Speaker 1: do uh Domino, and we're gonna do Coolio, and we're
- 30:54Speaker 1: gonna do this young dude named Snoop. So now you're
- 30:58Speaker 1: getting all these new artists. You got ice Cube, now
- 31:02Speaker 1: you got this, you got that. So now the plate
- 31:05Speaker 1: got bigger. So I just happened to be the god
- 31:08Speaker 1: delivering the plate to the people, like, Yo, we got this,
- 31:10Speaker 1: we got this, we got this. Oh my god, we
- 31:13Speaker 1: got this girl from Detroit named Boss. Nobody mentions her Boss.
- 31:18Speaker 1: Boss was a young artist came up just like the Brat,
- 31:22Speaker 1: like Brad was the first platinum female artist, girl to
- 31:26Speaker 1: go platinum. Like people don't talk about that no more.
- 31:28Speaker 1: She was the first artist to go platinum female, not
- 31:33Speaker 1: not like it was the Brat. Right, So I'm just
- 31:40Speaker 1: because I feel like I.
- 31:41Speaker 3: Feel like I'm bringing you that, but I don't know that.
- 31:48Speaker 1: So so my point being is, I just think it
- 31:52Speaker 1: was really really a blessing for me at that time,
- 31:55Speaker 1: just to be in the right place at the right time,
- 31:57Speaker 1: because I love the music and I love us, you know,
- 32:00Speaker 1: saying I wanted you if you was a new artist.
- 32:01Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm trying to get you on, like, yo,
- 32:03Speaker 1: you gotta come on here, make sure you get fix
- 32:06Speaker 1: her hair, make sure she looks like, okay, cool, cool cool, No, No,
- 32:10Speaker 1: but what I'm saying, y'all, y'all, y'all can figure this
- 32:13Speaker 1: out so real quick.
- 32:15Speaker 2: Anything going on Turkey.
- 32:17Speaker 1: Drive, I already do what and you to see how
- 32:23Speaker 1: you ain't been.
- 32:26Speaker 2: Turkeys on the ground. They just forget this.
- 32:28Speaker 1: Many people go do nothing.
- 32:31Speaker 2: He gave me a turkey.
- 32:35Speaker 3: What was the biggest thing that MTV passed up on
- 32:38Speaker 3: that you were like? And they was like, nah, were good,
- 32:40Speaker 3: And then later like now you're looking back, like man,
- 32:42Speaker 3: that was the iconic moment we could add.
- 32:47Speaker 1: I can't remember that. I can remember what they almost
- 32:49Speaker 1: blew on. There's a couple of things that that happened
- 32:53Speaker 1: like this. One I remember very very vividly was H Town.
- 32:58Speaker 1: So H Town was on Luke Records, right, so you
- 33:01Speaker 1: got the group, the group knocking the Boost. So I
- 33:05Speaker 1: was in like in the South, I was doing the
- 33:09Speaker 1: show or something. I heard knocking the boost. I said,
- 33:13Speaker 1: oh my god, what is that. I go back to MTV.
- 33:19Speaker 1: I'm like, listen this Duesda down the goddamn Tuscaloosa got
- 33:26Speaker 1: this song that's fire in. Everybody going crazy. I said,
- 33:29Speaker 1: we gotta get this on MTV. Oh my god, what
- 33:31Speaker 1: who is it? What is it?
- 33:32Speaker 2: Oh my god?
- 33:33Speaker 1: H Town? Look records, Oh my god, we can't touch it.
- 33:36Speaker 1: Look looks because at this time Luke is like, you know,
- 33:40Speaker 1: he is the Hugh Hefner of hip hop, and they
- 33:42Speaker 1: doing pop up. They rugged, They wow, they wow, but
- 33:49Speaker 1: they but he got an R and B group, that's
- 33:50Speaker 1: not they a sexy R and B. I go in there.
- 33:55Speaker 1: I showed him the tape. I said, Yo, this is
- 33:57Speaker 1: that and the other blah blah blah. They're like, oh
- 33:59Speaker 1: my god, look the billboard. Let's see what it is.
- 34:01Speaker 2: Is it doing?
- 34:02Speaker 1: Is it a heat seeker? What is it doing on
- 34:04Speaker 1: the charts. I was like, it don't matter what the
- 34:06Speaker 1: charts is. I'm telling you this song right here is crazy.
- 34:12Speaker 1: We get the video, they still on it, we put
- 34:15Speaker 1: it on the air. Oh my god, your your you know,
- 34:23Speaker 1: you know music. I've been telling you. You see, that's
- 34:27Speaker 1: the thing. When you live in the tower, you not
- 34:29Speaker 1: on the on the ground. You don't know the people, right.
- 34:32Speaker 1: So that's why I never stay in the tower to
- 34:34Speaker 1: this day. I never stay in the tower because you
- 34:36Speaker 1: don't know what the fuck going on.
- 34:37Speaker 3: Did you ever get a chance to turn the group
- 34:39Speaker 3: that I got the play?
- 34:42Speaker 2: That was a real risk song. Back then it was.
- 34:47Speaker 1: Boom boom. You know, it's a lot of grinding, you know.
- 34:50Speaker 2: Interesting. I want to remember that we used to. I
- 34:53Speaker 2: wonder what the difference between knocking the boots and sex
- 34:55Speaker 2: you up. Boys. They white, You're right there.
- 35:00Speaker 1: You you know we nasty, they're pleasant.
- 35:05Speaker 2: They have no problem with sex you up.
- 35:08Speaker 1: We did, we did color me bad. I want to
- 35:09Speaker 1: sex you up? Yeah, so all them groups like now
- 35:13Speaker 1: you don't even see groups no more. We had color
- 35:16Speaker 1: me bad boys, the men shy jo toasy girls high five.
- 35:26Speaker 1: We had jade, uh who else? Give me another group,
- 35:31Speaker 1: Give me another group, give me damns so many man,
- 35:38Speaker 1: I love total though.
- 35:39Speaker 2: It was just can't you see what you do to me?
- 35:44Speaker 2: You said you regret coining the term booty guard.
- 35:47Speaker 1: I ain't regret it. I regret that I didn't trademark it.
- 35:51Speaker 1: I would have had a lot of money if I.
- 35:53Speaker 1: If I had trademark that right now, it'll be a
- 35:55Speaker 1: hologram sitting right here. That term.
- 35:57Speaker 2: What made you come up with that? German?
- 36:00Speaker 1: It was the way I was writing the jokes at
- 36:02Speaker 1: the time. I was her name the girl, Yes, I
- 36:05Speaker 1: don't remember. I didn't have the girl, didn't have a
- 36:08Speaker 1: name in the in the in the joke, it was basically, I'm.
- 36:12Speaker 2: Talking about the girl you actually slept with that inspired you.
- 36:15Speaker 1: Oh I don't remember. I tell you it was he
- 36:19Speaker 1: was he was of age.
- 36:20Speaker 2: I know that.
- 36:21Speaker 1: I know she was at least twenty four, twenty five
- 36:24Speaker 1: that twenty four something like that. I try to keep
- 36:29Speaker 1: it eating. But yeah, so what he called came from
- 36:37Speaker 1: uh me just talking about a girl coming to your crib,
- 36:41Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I had just got a
- 36:43Speaker 1: brand new crib loft joint. You know, I'm getting that
- 36:47Speaker 1: money now and stuff. So I was just like, oh man,
- 36:50Speaker 1: it's crazy when you you wanted chicks to come by,
- 36:54Speaker 1: and I'm like, damn, they always bring a friend and
- 36:55Speaker 1: stuff like the blow, the blow, the vibe because like
- 36:58Speaker 1: the thing about it was booty call is basically like
- 37:01Speaker 1: you call this chick up and you like hoping she answers.
- 37:03Speaker 1: She answers, like, yo, what you're doing. She's like, oh
- 37:05Speaker 1: my god, I don't know. You're like, YO, want you to
- 37:07Speaker 1: come through for a second? You hoping? She she said yes,
- 37:10Speaker 1: She's like yeah, I could just slide through in about
- 37:12Speaker 1: an hour. You're like, oh, you are happy whatever. And
- 37:16Speaker 1: then you get in your house and get together. You
- 37:18Speaker 1: like trying to set it up. You're putting the candles
- 37:20Speaker 1: and stuff. You know, you're trying to make it fly.
- 37:22Speaker 1: And then she come to the door and she got
- 37:23Speaker 1: her friend. She's like, hey, ball, You're like, what is that?
- 37:26Speaker 1: And she like, how long y'all gonna because she brings
- 37:30Speaker 1: the ugly girlfriend the block case it ain't going right,
- 37:33Speaker 1: she gotta she got it out, y'all. You know how
- 37:35Speaker 1: y'all do team team defense? You ready to go?
- 37:41Speaker 3: What they do that you'd be like, yo, if I
- 37:47Speaker 3: text you this word, call me because I can say
- 37:48Speaker 3: it's an emergency and I got a this.
- 37:50Speaker 2: They do defense on us, say for it.
- 37:52Speaker 1: You ain't and she ain't like you girl will come
- 37:56Speaker 1: over like we gotta go your baby, your baby is leaving,
- 38:01Speaker 1: or they'll do some some creek.
- 38:03Speaker 2: So you you just you didn't have no kids.
- 38:06Speaker 1: Well it's a baby I just found so anyway, they
- 38:09Speaker 1: make them stuff. But that's team defense for y'all.
- 38:12Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I told you, damn.
- 38:14Speaker 3: Would you have known what the dude like if you
- 38:16Speaker 3: have trademarked it back then and it like once it
- 38:18Speaker 3: started blowing up in the movies going all that, would
- 38:20Speaker 3: you have known what to do with it?
- 38:21Speaker 1: Or you were just said I think I think I
- 38:22Speaker 1: would have just did like merchandise and stuff like that.
- 38:25Speaker 1: Because people still say booty call. They try to say
- 38:28Speaker 1: sneaky link, but it don't sneaky link. Don't sneaky links
- 38:31Speaker 1: sound like it's contagious.
- 38:33Speaker 3: It's the same thing as a booty caller, I.
- 38:35Speaker 1: Know, but it don't it sound like you get a
- 38:37Speaker 1: rash from a sneaky link, right, sneaky link. Booty calls
- 38:41Speaker 1: sound like sound like I got some booty It was fun.
- 38:45Speaker 1: Sneaky links sound like.
- 38:47Speaker 3: See now they're not even saying sneaky link. It's fine
- 38:49Speaker 3: ship now. So it's like you'd like you my little
- 38:51Speaker 3: fine ship. Yeah, like my little fine ship coming over,
- 38:54Speaker 3: a little fine ship.
- 38:56Speaker 1: I'm too old for that. I don't want fine shit.
- 38:59Speaker 2: I want what happened to wife?
- 39:01Speaker 3: I mean, nah, it depends on, like you know, where
- 39:06Speaker 3: y'all are in the stages of things.
- 39:08Speaker 1: But so if okay, right now you meet somebody.
- 39:12Speaker 2: Another great group next boom boom boom boom boom boom
- 39:16Speaker 2: boom boom boom. I wonder if she could feel my
- 39:18Speaker 2: dick getting hard right now? They was talking about getting
- 39:24Speaker 2: hard in the Dirty version of the Dirty.
- 39:28Speaker 1: I wonder if she could feel inside. I can't deny
- 39:33Speaker 1: he was talking about being hard in the club yes,
- 39:36Speaker 1: I can't hide it. Girl, you're dancing real clothes.
- 39:40Speaker 3: Y'all just made it. I'll package it when.
- 39:43Speaker 2: I turned into want to be my wife, So you
- 39:46Speaker 2: got to start somewhere.
- 39:47Speaker 3: Gotta start with the levels, my little fine ship. Then
- 39:50Speaker 3: it's like that's bad, and it's like that's wifey. Now
- 39:53Speaker 3: we let together. You got a booty call because you
- 39:54Speaker 3: go home and she there anyway, and she don't want
- 39:56Speaker 3: give you nothing anyway because she's been seeing you every day.
- 39:58Speaker 2: Donna get bad, Baby mama dead be that can happen.
- 40:00Speaker 3: To not in my trajectory.
- 40:02Speaker 1: So now like on social media, baby Mama is BM right, Yeah,
- 40:06Speaker 1: I had to figure that out. I was like, that
- 40:08Speaker 1: was a cop. Yeah, I bought two of those. I
- 40:11Speaker 1: bought two of those? What and why end is your niggas?
- 40:15Speaker 2: Yes?
- 40:16Speaker 3: You want stay away from those?
- 40:17Speaker 1: Definitely, that's that's that that the y ns mess up
- 40:21Speaker 1: the club.
- 40:22Speaker 2: Yeah, we used to call them killers, so they just ate.
- 40:25Speaker 1: They the killers that be in the corner. As soon
- 40:28Speaker 1: as we see them, we leave.
- 40:28Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, that's right, that's right.
- 40:31Speaker 1: Did you bring me up to speed?
- 40:32Speaker 2: I got you. You said you want to do another
- 40:34Speaker 2: how to be a player. Are you really working on
- 40:35Speaker 2: an updated version of that? What would that even look
- 40:37Speaker 2: like in twenty twenty five?
- 40:38Speaker 1: Oh, Shanny Sharp would not be in it all. You
- 40:45Speaker 1: are nobody, nobody that's messing up, got anything? You would
- 40:49Speaker 1: have to be a player to Nope, Nope, nope.
- 40:50Speaker 2: Is it even worth being a player? Because Kendrick Lamar said,
- 40:53Speaker 2: and I agree with him on the new album g Next,
- 40:55Speaker 2: he says, you better off being with one woman. Everything
- 40:58Speaker 2: tricky right now?
- 40:59Speaker 1: Yeah, it's trick right now. I think for the comedy
- 41:01Speaker 1: of it, it would be really good for the culture.
- 41:04Speaker 1: I feel like it would be good because it's nostalgic.
- 41:06Speaker 1: Everybody's the right age now. Some Cats was like in
- 41:09Speaker 1: their teenage years, some Cats was in their twenties.
- 41:12Speaker 2: Whatever.
- 41:12Speaker 1: I think if we do it coming like if it
- 41:14Speaker 1: comes out next summer, I think it would be perfect
- 41:17Speaker 1: because we can talk about certain things, you know how
- 41:21Speaker 1: like technology is blowing casts up. You know what I'm saying,
- 41:25Speaker 1: leaving your phone open, girl, using your face while you sleep.
- 41:29Speaker 1: I feel like we should have alarms on our phones,
- 41:32Speaker 1: you know, like say saying you you sleep and your
- 41:34Speaker 1: girls try to go.
- 41:38Speaker 3: Or you could just not have nothing in the phone.
- 41:40Speaker 2: That's true too.
- 41:41Speaker 1: Well, always got something in our phone. You know, you
- 41:43Speaker 1: got stuff. Everybody got something their phone, that something. They
- 41:46Speaker 1: just be like, Nah, I didn't think nobody was gonna
- 41:48Speaker 1: see that your phone clean.
- 41:51Speaker 3: I mean, I could I do what I want to
- 41:54Speaker 3: do right now what I'm saying, But that's if your
- 41:56Speaker 3: phone was just left open and people went to swiping.
- 41:58Speaker 1: Would you be would you be good?
- 42:00Speaker 2: No?
- 42:01Speaker 1: Look at the pause, she said, which phone?
- 42:07Speaker 2: Okay, Now what if you did then updated version of
- 42:10Speaker 2: the Brothers.
- 42:11Speaker 3: That's supposed to be happening, and you had doctor.
- 42:13Speaker 2: Umar in it? Mad at you because how much you
- 42:18Speaker 2: like white women.
- 42:21Speaker 1: Doctor Umar would be. He would just show up on
- 42:24Speaker 1: my dates.
- 42:24Speaker 2: Yes, he's a cousin. Come on, brother, every time you
- 42:30Speaker 2: something no reason, don't let the butnets.
- 42:33Speaker 1: Get your brother. Boy. If doctor Umar have a mixed baby,
- 42:39Speaker 1: I'm a pass out. It'll never have no I know,
- 42:41Speaker 1: I'm just joking. Umar. He's staying on business with his stuff. Well,
- 42:45Speaker 1: he hit it so hard. He better not even drink
- 42:48Speaker 1: white milk. Get me, he better have brown rice in
- 42:52Speaker 1: his house. I don't want to hear. He is over
- 42:54Speaker 1: the top. I love watching him just go off. He
- 42:57Speaker 1: just come through my phone every now and then I'll
- 42:59Speaker 1: be wiping on my phone. He'll be like, listen, brother,
- 43:02Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what you need. You need a sister,
- 43:06Speaker 1: keep this culture, keep the vibe.
- 43:09Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, Lord, could we forgive doctor Umar if
- 43:11Speaker 2: he got with a white woman like we found.
- 43:13Speaker 1: Would we would go crazy? Black people, we go crazy.
- 43:16Speaker 1: I know it. You know we want you to fall,
- 43:18Speaker 1: you know, black?
- 43:19Speaker 2: So what could he do to get everything back in
- 43:22Speaker 2: and get back in our good graces?
- 43:23Speaker 1: Turkey drive for black people. A turkey drive solve all
- 43:30Speaker 1: your problems. Just go Costco right now. If you know
- 43:34Speaker 1: you're gonna do some dumb shit, get you a bunch
- 43:37Speaker 1: of turkeys. As soon as that ship dropped, you just
- 43:39Speaker 1: start giving them out and people forgive you.
- 43:41Speaker 2: Bill Bella me his top billing toy is going on
- 43:45Speaker 2: right now. He's gonna be at the Improv Comedy Club
- 43:47Speaker 2: May third and the fourth.
- 43:48Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be in Bray of California.
- 43:50Speaker 2: Yes, Brad California, four wing in Indiana, mad Knife and
- 43:53Speaker 2: eleven from the Summer City Comedy Club. He'll be at
- 43:55Speaker 2: the Chicago Improv in Schanberg, Illinois, May sixteenth through the eighteenth,
- 43:59Speaker 2: the Miami in Provle in Miami, Florida, May thirtiefter the
- 44:01Speaker 2: June first, and the Funny Bone Comedy Club in Cleveland
- 44:04Speaker 2: June sixth to the eighth.
- 44:05Speaker 1: Let's go, man, Let's go, man. That's how we do it. Man.
- 44:08Speaker 2: Thank you all so much, man always.
- 44:10Speaker 3: Oh, thank you. I had another question. You were no,
- 44:14Speaker 3: I didn't know, so we didn't. We didn't get to
- 44:16Speaker 3: meet a lot. I only met Donnelle because he had
- 44:19Speaker 3: a lot going on. He had like did something in
- 44:21Speaker 3: the airport or something. I had to call him. I
- 44:23Speaker 3: ain't never had to call your teams. He's a good thing,
- 44:24Speaker 3: Thank god. I had a question for you. Wait are
- 44:26Speaker 3: you still you're so married?
- 44:27Speaker 1: Right?
- 44:27Speaker 2: Yes?
- 44:28Speaker 3: Is your wife white? Oh? Okay? Because I was looking,
- 44:31Speaker 3: I thought that your wife.
- 44:32Speaker 2: Was well, she mixed.
- 44:33Speaker 3: She got like okay, all right. Because with the doctor Umer,
- 44:36Speaker 3: I'm like laughing.
- 44:37Speaker 1: No, no, doctor, no, no, my my wife.
- 44:42Speaker 2: That's the reason why I like.
- 44:46Speaker 3: Jokes. Don't let him get you in the commy can't
- 44:47Speaker 3: get me.
- 44:48Speaker 1: But you know, Wendy used to get me though she always.
- 44:50Speaker 1: But people don't realize that black people coming every shade.
- 44:53Speaker 3: Like I saw that clip of Wendy last night when
- 44:55Speaker 3: I was getting ready, I didn't see.
- 44:56Speaker 1: That one because because because it was so funny, because
- 44:59Speaker 1: my life looks so like you don't know if she
- 45:02Speaker 1: wear hair this way is one thing where you like,
- 45:04Speaker 1: you don't know what the hell is going on, right,
- 45:06Speaker 1: And so one day it was Wendy. Wendy was like,
- 45:09Speaker 1: so Bell, you know this is the good the good
- 45:12Speaker 1: days of Wendy or whatever. Bell, So what is your wife?
- 45:16Speaker 1: You know? It's like she's black, half black, half white
- 45:19Speaker 1: one too. One side is the good times, the other
- 45:23Speaker 1: side is bratty much? How was I know?
- 45:25Speaker 2: I that's another one. Did you ever think Wendy would
- 45:29Speaker 2: be in the situation that she's currently in.
- 45:32Speaker 1: Man, I just hope she could get her life back
- 45:35Speaker 1: and they I don't know who signed her off on
- 45:37Speaker 1: this goofy thing, conservativeship. It's scary, Like it made me realize,
- 45:42Speaker 1: no matter how we successful we get, we should make
- 45:46Speaker 1: sure that nobody could just take over us.
- 45:49Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
- 45:50Speaker 1: You make sure your paperwork is in already, make sure
- 45:52Speaker 1: your paper you will never know. You get sick and
- 45:54Speaker 1: then have some weird person telling you your family can't
- 45:56Speaker 1: do nothing. You can't do nothing. Nah, take care of
- 45:59Speaker 1: your business and pray for Wendy.
- 46:00Speaker 3: When people tell all these stories about like these iconic
- 46:02Speaker 3: interviews and hip hop stuff, why don't they mention you
- 46:05Speaker 3: more and stuff?
- 46:06Speaker 1: Because people I don't know why. Like I think what
- 46:09Speaker 1: happens is people forget you know what I mean, because
- 46:12Speaker 1: they always jump into the next You got to do
- 46:15Speaker 1: your history. That's why I can come to the Breakfast
- 46:17Speaker 1: club and have a good time because you guys know,
- 46:21Speaker 1: like there's certain things you know, and then I grew
- 46:23Speaker 1: up here, so it's certain things that people be like, Yo,
- 46:26Speaker 1: I remember, like I'm from Jersey, right, I'm from Jersey.
- 46:28Speaker 1: So the crazy thing, Like I remember the first time
- 46:32Speaker 1: I met Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson was at Webster Hall
- 46:35Speaker 1: at a party. Right, this is when Mike was Mike.
- 46:37Speaker 1: Mike would knock somebody out and be in a club
- 46:39Speaker 1: like Mike would knock somebody out and literally being the
- 46:41Speaker 1: club with us. Right, the first time I met Mike Tyson, right,
- 46:46Speaker 1: and I didn't know Mike Tyson knew who I was yet,
- 46:49Speaker 1: and we.
- 46:51Speaker 2: In the men's bathroom.
- 46:52Speaker 1: I never forget this, and Mike comes in, I'm like
- 46:54Speaker 1: I can see him in the mirror. You know you
- 46:56Speaker 1: at the urine you can see. I said, oh shit,
- 46:57Speaker 1: this Mike. Oh shit. He was like, mana be funny, William,
- 47:02Speaker 1: w wh call me William, You're very funny.
- 47:05Speaker 2: Me.
- 47:05Speaker 1: Well, I loved your deaf comedy. Gam You're ready funny, Man,
- 47:08Speaker 1: I appreciate you.
- 47:09Speaker 2: Man. I was like, Yo, that's Mike motherfucking Dyce's man.
- 47:12Speaker 5: Man.
- 47:12Speaker 2: I was like, damn right there.
- 47:15Speaker 1: But I told Mike, I said, Mike, you know you
- 47:17Speaker 1: the first hip hop champ.
- 47:19Speaker 2: Absolutely, like he was of the culture.
- 47:22Speaker 1: Like we literally could watch Mike and Madison Square Guarden
- 47:26Speaker 1: and see him at nails, like he would just be.
- 47:29Speaker 2: One of the first hip hop mainstream stars too, right,
- 47:33Speaker 2: whether whether he knew that or not.
- 47:35Speaker 1: Mike left a Bingley Rose Royce in the middle of
- 47:37Speaker 1: the street somewhere. Wait, do you remember that it was
- 47:40Speaker 1: a Rose Rocet? Did he get love?
- 47:42Speaker 2: If you know, if you read Bobby Brown's book that
- 47:44Speaker 2: him and Bobby says him and Mike used to do
- 47:45Speaker 2: that all the time. They'd be in different cities and
- 47:47Speaker 2: see somebody give them a bag of cash and just
- 47:49Speaker 2: body car and leave it. These guys were making so
- 47:54Speaker 2: much money back then. That it was unbelievable. They didn't
- 47:56Speaker 2: know what to do.
- 47:59Speaker 1: Do you see only I looked it up.
- 48:02Speaker 3: What kind of car was does Tyson leaving a Rose
- 48:04Speaker 3: Royce on the street in nineteen eighty eight?
- 48:06Speaker 1: Uh?
- 48:07Speaker 3: Yeah, they were going to take the car from him,
- 48:09Speaker 3: so he let them and keep it. But after photographers
- 48:12Speaker 3: saw them and the captain saw the picture, they ordered
- 48:14Speaker 3: him to return. They give the car back to him.
- 48:16Speaker 3: No officers were suspended ten days without pay yep. And
- 48:19Speaker 3: then he offered lover of the Rose Royce.
- 48:22Speaker 1: Wow.
- 48:23Speaker 2: I think MTV also hasn't done a good job of
- 48:27Speaker 2: a good job of like preserving the content that I
- 48:30Speaker 2: don't think bt but be honest with your bet either,
- 48:32Speaker 2: like that there's there's gold platinum classic material.
- 48:35Speaker 1: Between v They should be airing it like a TV
- 48:38Speaker 1: show because it's literally music history.
- 48:41Speaker 3: That's how I'm getting ready for this. Yesterday watching some
- 48:43Speaker 3: of the you have old clips on YouTube, I got.
- 48:45Speaker 1: So much stuff. Like I remember interviewing A Leah. I
- 48:48Speaker 1: mean I just just hit popped back in my head
- 48:50Speaker 1: and she was showing me that one two check up.
- 48:52Speaker 1: Everybody know what that was her first album she did.
- 48:55Speaker 2: We sit there and watched that all day with you
- 48:57Speaker 2: narrating you fab five freddie Na rating, Yeah yeah, ed
- 49:00Speaker 2: loving that reading.
- 49:01Speaker 3: Onto that over Janet Jackson. The Janney Jackson interview, you
- 49:06Speaker 3: were like you was you had a crush on Oh
- 49:08Speaker 3: my god that interview for.
- 49:09Speaker 2: You just didn't I didn't know what to do by myself.
- 49:12Speaker 1: You know. If I knew Jermaine could pull it, I
- 49:15Speaker 1: would have pulled it, you know what I mean. He
- 49:17Speaker 1: just had more courage. He caught it straight. No, No,
- 49:22Speaker 1: I love JD. But JD pulled up I did. I mean,
- 49:25Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I was on tour, wed
- 49:26Speaker 1: and everything, and I was just like dag, you know.
- 49:29Speaker 1: I it was so interesting because we had such a
- 49:32Speaker 1: really cool friendship that I didn't know, like I didn't
- 49:34Speaker 1: want to mess it up, like crossing the line, you
- 49:36Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I never did. But the
- 49:38Speaker 1: thing about it was she used to flirt with me
- 49:40Speaker 1: on camera, like in front of everybody, and I was
- 49:42Speaker 1: like what, but I ain't. I would be like stuck
- 49:45Speaker 1: because I ain't know what to do with it, right,
- 49:46Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I'd be like, she ain't
- 49:48Speaker 1: really mean that they say if you can make a laugh.
- 49:50Speaker 1: You can crack auss, bro, I promise you. But you
- 49:53Speaker 1: gotta understand she was so big at the time. So
- 49:56Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like, you know, this is Janet Jackson. You
- 49:59Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
- 50:00Speaker 2: Oh, man, I don't know.
- 50:01Speaker 1: But then she'll be like Bill come by the house.
- 50:03Speaker 3: He never went by the house.
- 50:04Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I went by the house and what. But
- 50:06Speaker 1: it was a bunch of us. It was never like
- 50:09Speaker 1: I was never like along with her like that, Like
- 50:12Speaker 1: I would party with them and stuff because we was
- 50:13Speaker 1: on tour together and stuff.
- 50:15Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
- 50:15Speaker 1: But I should have pulled up though I ain't. No,
- 50:18Speaker 1: I should have came over there with a turkey, like, YO,
- 50:22Speaker 1: got you a turkey?
- 50:23Speaker 2: Janet, It's Bill Bellamy. Man. Where can they follow you? Bill?
- 50:27Speaker 1: Follow me at Bill Bellamie on Instagram, I'm on the TikTok,
- 50:30Speaker 1: I'm on Facebook wherever it is. Subscribe to your podcast,
- 50:33Speaker 1: subscribe to our top billing. We love y'all man peace.
- 50:36Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club, Bill Bellamy, Wake that ass up
- 50:39Speaker 2: in the morning. The Breakfast Club