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Soul Signals: Stop Ignoring That Voice Inside · The Growth Mindset Book Podcast: Ideas That Change the Way You Think

• 0:33
  Speaker 1: For the podcast.
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: Today, we're going to do something slightly different.
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: I was recently on another podcast where I was interviewed about a book that I have recently written called the Whisper of God the Path of Thanks.
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: Now, even though God is in the title, it's not a religious book.
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: It's just talking about a higher power or divine source.
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: I thought it would make sense, since this is a book podcast, to include this podcast for you to listen to, because there are some really great questions that were asked and I think the information will be very helpful.
• 1:13
  Speaker 1: So sit back, enjoy and give us feedback and let us know how you like today's podcast.
• 1:21
  Speaker 2: This is not going to be just a conversation about leadership or career development.
• 1:27
  Speaker 2: This is a conversation about listening, listening to the still small voice within, small voice within, listening to what Michael Fox calls the whisper of God.
• 1:44
  Speaker 2: I'm honored to welcome Michael to the show, a spiritual teacher, coach and the author of this powerful book that has already changed a lot and so many lives, including mine, since I read it.
• 1:56
  Speaker 2: Today we will explore how listening to divine whispers can lead us to the right path, to the right career, to the right decision in leadership and in life.
• 2:08
  Speaker 2: Michael Fox, welcome to the Call.
• 2:12
  Speaker 2: Hello, hello, michael Fox, welcome.
• 2:15
  Speaker 1: Nabila, this is really a wonderful moment for me.
• 2:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone knows, but thinking how long we've known each other and we really started this path and journey years ago together.
• 2:29
  Speaker 1: It's just such a beautiful thing to watch your growth, to see all the lives that you're impacting and affecting, and it's just a pleasure to be here.
• 2:41
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 2:42
  Speaker 2: I mean our story of how we've known each other and how our paths across.
• 2:48
  Speaker 2: There was a time where Michael, myself and a bunch of other people were meeting every day for more than probably a year and a half, two years.
• 2:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:59
  Speaker 2: Like literally in a mastermind.
• 3:01
  Speaker 2: But that's good for another episode, Michael, this today, this is all about that absolutely amazing book that starts with a powerful.
• 3:12
  Speaker 2: The title of the book is the Whisper of God and it begins with a powerful invitation.
• 3:18
  Speaker 2: You didn't find this book by accident.
• 3:22
  Speaker 2: Let's begin there.
• 3:23
  Speaker 2: Can you explain what it means to truly hear the whisper of God and how that whisper can guide someone to feel stuck or lost in their professional life?
• 3:37
  Speaker 2: To feel stuck or lost?
• 3:38
  Speaker 1: in their professional life.
• 3:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I will, and I'll tell it through a story because it's a true story.
• 3:43
  Speaker 1: It happened to me, which was when I was younger and I was about to go into college.
• 3:51
  Speaker 1: I wanted to be a teacher.
• 3:53
  Speaker 1: That's what I wanted to do.
• 3:55
  Speaker 1: I wanted to teach kids and help kids and make a difference in their life, and I had this knowing inside that was what I should be doing.
• 4:05
  Speaker 1: However, this stuff in my head started happening and what it told me was you can't make enough money doing that.
• 4:15
  Speaker 1: How are you going to have a family?
• 4:17
  Speaker 1: How will you have a career?
• 4:18
  Speaker 1: So, instead of doing what I knew was the right thing for me to do, I wanted to please everyone else and go in a different path, and so I shut that voice down and I didn't do what I knew in my heart was the right thing to do, and I didn't do what I knew in my heart was the right thing to do.
• 4:40
  Speaker 1: And that kept happening for years.
• 4:44
  Speaker 1: Even when I became a financial advisor and I was helping people and I love the fact that I was helping people there was still this yearning inside to be teaching and helping people more on a spiritual level.
• 4:55
  Speaker 1: And finally, I listened to the whisper.
• 4:57
  Speaker 1: It took me many years to listen, but I did listen and I actually stopped my career as a financial advisor and said that's it.
• 5:06
  Speaker 1: I went through a tough time myself.
• 5:09
  Speaker 1: I found this information.
• 5:11
  Speaker 1: It helped me so much and once that happened I said I must share this with other people and spend really the rest of my life doing that.
• 5:19
  Speaker 1: And I feel like if I do that, then at the end of my life I can look back and say I absolutely did what I truly wanted to do.
• 5:28
  Speaker 1: But the interesting thing is and I think for everyone that's listening is we all have this knowing inside of us.
• 5:33
  Speaker 1: We all have this knowing inside of us and unfortunately, sometimes what happens is this thing here our mind, our ego, takes over and starts to talk and it tries to convince us why we shouldn't do that.
• 5:49
  Speaker 1: I don't have enough money, I don't have enough time, I don't have enough resources.
• 5:53
  Speaker 1: All the stuff comes.
• 5:55
  Speaker 1: That's all the stuff that came up for me.
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: So maybe we can start.
• 6:06
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing.
• 6:07
  Speaker 1: What I've found is that when you listen to the whisper and you act on the whisper, everything works exactly as it should and you get from point A to point B, in my opinion way faster than trying to figure it out up here.
• 6:18
  Speaker 1: So that's what it is to me, yeah.
• 6:22
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 6:23
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 6:23
  Speaker 2: This is coming full circle to teaching.
• 6:26
  Speaker 2: Like you went, you followed what everybody was telling you Money is in finance, money is in selling insurance, money is in and teaching.
• 6:36
  Speaker 2: Look at these teachers they are stuck and they are not going anywhere.
• 6:40
  Speaker 2: And la, la, la.
• 6:40
  Speaker 2: And then you be there when you say teachers are not, they're stuck, they are not paid enough.
• 6:46
  Speaker 2: How are you going to have a family with being a teacher?
• 6:49
  Speaker 2: And and look, even jack ma, the one who owns alibaba and alExpress and reaches the biggest shop online he's a teacher.
• 7:00
  Speaker 2: So it's just the concept of teacher in our mind that makes it, oh, they don't earn enough.
• 7:09
  Speaker 2: Or it's just a statement that we've been taught a story, we've been taught about this or that that keeps us going.
• 7:17
  Speaker 2: I'm delighted you are going full circle into teaching and teaching the stuff that we really love.
• 7:25
  Speaker 2: One of the themes that stayed with me reading your book is gratitude, and in your book, daniel learns that gratitude is a gateway to divine guidance.
• 7:41
  Speaker 2: How can ambitious, high-achieving women stuck somewhere they feel there is a glass ceiling above their head?
• 7:51
  Speaker 2: No, you cannot be VV.
• 7:52
  Speaker 2: No, you cannot be CEO.
• 7:54
  Speaker 2: Women are not supposed to be CEO.
• 7:57
  Speaker 2: Women cannot be CEO.
• 7:58
  Speaker 2: How can women in positions like this start embodying this kind of transformative gratitude in their day-to-day careers?
• 8:11
  Speaker 2: Because gratitude has such a powerful and miraculous effect.
• 8:18
  Speaker 2: Tell us more about gratitude.
• 8:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 8:21
  Speaker 1: So it's interesting.
• 8:23
  Speaker 1: What happens for most people is that we have these thoughts that go in our head and they just keep going and going.
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: I've got this meeting.
• 8:33
  Speaker 1: I got to hurry up, I'm stressed, I'm feeling this.
• 8:35
  Speaker 1: This conversation starts to ensue and it takes over.
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: We're having 65,000 thoughts per day, right?
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: So a lot of them are the same, but they're going on and on.
• 8:46
  Speaker 1: So the question is how can we glow that voice down, how can we silence it so that we can be first way more peaceful, feel a lot better and then, most importantly, be able to tap into the power that's already inside of us?
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: Right, there's this power that's amazing, which is somehow Nabila.
• 9:10
  Speaker 1: Our heart is beating consistently, like it just beats.
• 9:14
  Speaker 1: We're not doing anything.
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: You're breathing in and out, even while you go to sleep.
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: Somehow, miraculously, that's working.
• 9:22
  Speaker 1: All these cells in your body are doing their thing.
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: We have all these organs in our body that are functioning.
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: How is that happening?
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: That part of our being, the subconscious, which is, I think, our connection to God or divine or higher power, that's running the show.
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: So if that part of us can handle operating our whole body, our breathing, our blinking, everything that we do is it possible that if we turn our mind that chatter over to that place, that maybe that place will get us to where we need to go in a much faster way.
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: So the way to do that, in my opinion, is through gratitude.
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: It's the way we quiet our mind, is just to say thank you, and it could be thank you for everything.
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: We could just say thank you for me being able to breathe right now, thank you for me being able to stand up and walk.
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: It's the thank yous for all the things that we already have, and when we do that, we're making that connection.
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: I just want to tell this one story because I feel like this is really powerful.
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: Your daughter, right.
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: Imagine you go to your daughter and you go out and you buy this gift that she really loves.
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: It's something that you spend a lot of time thinking about this.
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: You wrap it up, you put a bow on it and you give her the present and she opens it, she looks at it and then she just pushes it off the table and shows no appreciation or no thanks for that.
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: Now here's the question for you how likely would you be to get her another gift in the near future if she did that?
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: Very unlikely Very unlikely.
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: Why is it?
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: What did she do that kind of would make you not want to do that.
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: She wasn't receptive to it, she wasn't thankful for it.
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: She didn't allow me to gift her.
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: I want to gift it to her and she just rejected it, so it's very unlikely.
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: It's very unlikely.
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: She didn't show appreciation, she didn't show thanks.
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: So now, so that's you being the parent for her?
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: Now, if we look at God as the parent for us and we're walking around with all these incredible gifts that God or the higher power, divine, whatever you want to call it, it doesn't matter, but that higher power has given us all these gifts and we're walking around and we're pushing them all off the table and not showing appreciation for them.
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: But if we show appreciation for them, what do you think that higher power might do?
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: Oh my God, If we show appreciation for them, what do you think that higher power might do?
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: Oh my God, We'll shower us with its blessings.
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's it.
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: And so I believe that connection that we make through just living, not making a gratitude.
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: Gratitude lists are fine, but it's living in gratitude, not I'm going to in the morning.
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say three things that I'm grateful for.
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: That's a great start, don't get me wrong, but we want to live there.
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: We want to be able to, in good and bad times, be able to say what can I be grateful for in this situation, right now?
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: And again, we're not going to be perfect at this.
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: It's practice, and sometimes we may not do it for a week, but when we realize we're not doing it, then we practice and we do it again.
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: Soon by practice and repetition, it becomes a part of our being.
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: So that's really the gratitude that I'm talking about.
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: Does that make sense?
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: It does big time.
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: I remember a time myself in the corporate where it's just go time meetings back to back, skipping lunch and all of these things.
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: We all have been there and it's like a life on the hamster wheel.
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: It's like running and running and it's never ending.
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: And then one day I started questioning that and I said what is it that is missing here?
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: And it was just the more you do, the more you get of the hustle.
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: And I was looking at that as I was proud of being busy and having a hectic life, and so on and so forth, Until one day I started questioning that life, and so on and so forth, until one day I started questioning that.
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: So the idea for corporate women is that wherever you are in your career, in your life, in your journey, and if you can just avail yourself a moment to stop spinning your wheels and look around.
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: And I look around and there's a beautiful window here with amazing trees, and it's an amazing, gorgeous day, sunny and full of blessings, and I'm here in my beautiful home, and then all of a sudden you start looking at things around that you've been taking for granted and the moment you start giving thanks that these things are in your life in the first place, because we don't need to wait until they are taken away for us to start seeing their value, that we can start looking at where you are.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: Even the job that you, that, the fact that you have currently a job, even though you want to move, it's going to shorten, as you said earlier on.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: Shorten your move to the next, better one.
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: And it's not by being resistant to this job that you don't like, by being and like not so grateful about where you are, that you are going to speed up the process to the next one.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: Actually, sometimes we are so caught up in this, in the mechanical way of doing things, that we sabotage the gateway to our own freedom, which is gratitude, and I always say appreciation is the master key to manifesting, to getting anything you want in life.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: It's simply that, michael, this is so good.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: Many of Our listeners are in careers, for example, that no longer serve them, but they are stuck with the mortgages and the loans and they cannot leave because of the kids, because they have to put this on the table, but they are afraid to pivot.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: So how does your book speak to that fear, to that decision that, logically, we cannot afford.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: If we leave it to our logical mind, it's going to say no, no, nabila, like many years.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: For me it's no, nabila, you cannot leave this good job.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: And actually today I wrote an article on LinkedIn says why did you leave your very good position?
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: People ask that seems to be the logical question.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: So, to come back, how can women, or people in general, trust the timing of the next move?
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: What can they specifically do to pivot and trust that voice that's whispering them that it's time to let go and move on, and they will be taken care of by divine order, so to speak, by something bigger than a strategic plump.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great question.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: It's such a great point that you're making, and it's something that stops most people is that fear of what if?
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: How will I make this happen?
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: And there is no decision that's been made, and so we stay in this lack of decision and we're constantly our mind is going a little bit nuts and we're living in this fear of what, if?
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: What if?
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I want to do it, but I can't do it and the mind is going crazy.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Again, that first step is key, which is to start being thankful.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Hey, I'm thankful that I even have the opportunity to think like this.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I'm grateful that I have the opportunity to have the option to have this job and potentially leave it to go do something else.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: There are a lot of people out there that don't have that.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: So, again, that's making the connection.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Once we make the connection, I think the next step is we got to really be clear on what it is that we want.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Right, Easier said than done, Like someone could say I want a lot of money and then the higher power says, okay, here you go and they give you a certain amount of money.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: But it didn't.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: That higher power, the source, the subconscious that we're turning it over to.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: It needs to be really clear on what you want so it can deliver that.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: And I think one of the big issues that most people deal with is they're not really super clear on what it is they want.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: And it's just a matter of taking out a piece of paper and writing down and even if it takes a week, two weeks, a month to really get clear on what you want, that's fine.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: But just start the process of getting clear on what you want, Because, again, we've made this connection through gratitude.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Now we've got to say, okay, God, this is what it is that I want and we're asking for what we want.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: But again, we need the clarity of that picture of what it is that we want.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Once we have that clarity of the picture and we ask for it, again we got to keep our mind quiet through living in gratitude, and then the magic occurs.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: You don't have to make anything happen.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: You'll get a thought that pops in your mind.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: You'll be sitting on the train and you hear a conversation behind you and they happen to be talking about something that relates to exactly what it is that you've been thinking about.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: You watch a movie and you go to that movie and at the end of the movie something happens.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: It inspires crazy and we haven't gotten it to quiet down, we're going to miss the whisper.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Have you had that happen, where you get a whisper, You're like this is the thing I know I should be doing, and then your mind just goes, it just misses it.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: And then years later you'll say I remember I was going to do that and then I never did it.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: And you say I wish I would have done it and meanwhile we missed out on that time period.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: But that's okay, because we learn and we grow.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: And the point is to say, okay, I'm just becoming aware of this process, I'm aware of what's happening, and then we just start to practice it.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: There's no perfection.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: No one's the best at this.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: We get better at anything by practice period.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Practice makes perfect all the time.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: When you were talking about how we need to listen and especially get clear on our goals and get specific on our goal, and especially get clear on our goals and get specific on our goal, a few days ago, one of my previous clients sent me a slip of paper which is like a doodle thing.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: It's a scrambled paper like this.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: She said, dr Habib, I found this paper, like she was moving or something.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: And I found this paper and it's written in there salary of 75,000 riyials, which is the Saudi currency, position, general director of development and something In 2024,.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: She said, by the life of me, I am exactly that.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Now I had goosebumps.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: She said something.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: She said if I did not find this piece of paper, I wouldn't remember that, but once a year, maybe less than a year and a half, and she's in that and that's the number she mentioned in the under slip of.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: She said I so much didn't be because I was telling them about the C-type goal.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: And she said, okay, I'm going to write what she says a C-type goal.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: So she put three times what she was earning at that time and she put five levels above where she was and within a year and some.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: There she is in that exactly same position with that exact same salary.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: She said if I did not find this piece of paper, I would have forgotten.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: I forgot that I wanted it, like a year ago, and this is so powerful.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: And she said you know what?
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: This did not happen by working harder and putting more hours.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: And so she said I did exactly what you told us, which is gratitude.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: We did a 30-day challenge of gratitude.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: We read the book the Magic by Rhonda Byrne and we did the daily work.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: And she said I was chilling out, but in chilling out, in connecting with who I was, I started feeling grounded.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: And then this happened.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: She says what was naturally?
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: I didn't engineer anything.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: What say you to this, michael?
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: This is so.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: I say that is the secret to life, which is just our goal, is, how do I quiet my mind so I can just connect to the place that's already doing so many amazing things?
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: It's healing our body on a daily basis.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Why would we try to figure it out when we have this power?
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: That's inside of us and everyone has it?
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: That's the most incredible thing.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: The answer isn't out there.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: The answer doesn't exist out there.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: It's right inside.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Now, sometimes we need people to help us see that we are the ones that have that power inside of us and how to tap into it.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: But there's no magic that exists out there.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: There's no magic pill.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: People always say what's the one thing?
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: It's just re-becoming the authentic version of yourself, which is there sometimes.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: I remember when I was younger, I went to this new elementary school and I used to have a big like.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: My hair was really big like a big Afro, and I was at school the first day.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Now, at the school that I went to before that, everyone I got along with everyone.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: We had such a great time.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: We were all great friends.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: So here I am at this new school and at recess they all come around and they stick their hand in my hair and they're like messing it.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: And I ran home Like I literally ran from school because it wasn't that far.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I ran to my house and I said I'm not going back and at that point I put on this mask of I.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Again I got a people please.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I got to make other people happy.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: I can't be who I truly am because if I am, people will make fun of me and people will make me feel like I just felt.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: And I think again the secret comes back to is how do we get ourselves to go back to who we really are?
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: And if we live the authentic version of ourself, everything will work out.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Problem is, most people are doing things in their life that aren't truly what they want to be doing and they're wondering why things aren't working out.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: It's because we're being constantly guided to come back to who God made Nabila, god made me, god made everyone listening to this to be a specific person.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Not for me to be like you and you to be like me.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: No, we're gifts here.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: We're put here to be like you and you to be like me.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: No, we're gifts here.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: We're put here to be ourselves.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: And again, unfortunately, because of all the programming that occurs, we start to believe that we're not good enough and we're not smart enough and all the other belief systems that come in.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: And it's funny because all the rest of our lives we go back to trying to be who we really are on the inside.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: And if we can break through that, I think that we win the game of life.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: If we can do that.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, big time Asking the right questions, talking about questions, michael, there is, as we literally are bringing this show to a close.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: There is a beautiful moment in your book where you shift the question from why is this happening to me to what is this teaching me.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: That really hit home.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: How can this kind of question change?
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Or question reframing, how can it change the way women, people in general, navigate their career path, their leadership path and respond to workplace challenges?
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: So take it in the context okay, my boss is micromanaging all the time.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: You know, why am I with this boss who is micromanaging?
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Why is the environment toxic?
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: So how can we reframe the questions from why is this happening to me to what is this teaching me?
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: That's a big shift, right.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: It's a wonderful, it's a big shift.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Using this analogy, if you were to go open up Google in your browser and you wanted to find out information on a new car, would you type into that search something about a dog?
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: And the answer is, of course, you wouldn't, because if you type in something about a dog, what's going to be served up is an answer to your question that you're asking Google, our subconscious works the same way, right, that part of God that's inside of us.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Whatever question we ask it, it will give us an answer.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: So if I ask, why is this happening to me, why is my boss micromanaging me?
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: And I ask from that perspective, I will get a lot of answers.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, those answers aren't going to serve me.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: So instead, what I could do is I could ask a more powerful question is what can I be grateful for in this situation?
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: How can I learn what's one reason why this might be happening to me and how can that again take me to a higher level?
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Everything's happening for a reason and purpose, but it's how we look at it, which is the point that you're making.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Right, the questions that we're asking.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: That's gonna depending on the question we ask.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: We have this Google inside of us, it's gonna serve up the answer to us.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: So if that's the case, just like in Google, if we would type in a specific question to get an answer, we want to do the same thing inside of us, because that's exactly the same thing that's going to happen, and I hear it all the time.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: People are always saying why is this happening to me?
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: I don't understand.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: If you ask that you're going to get a lot more feedback on that and it's not going to, it's going to take you in a negative loop and ultimately, unfortunately, you're not going to get anywhere with that.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: So it's reframing exactly what you're saying, which makes all the difference in the world, cause then you'll get the best reframe to me is what can I be grateful for in this situation?
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: No matter how bad the situation is, there's always something we can.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Even if someone was in the hospital with cancer, right, thank God, I have the opportunity to go into this person and be there and give them love, and, in other words, there's always something.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: The question is are we going to search for that or are we going to focus on why is this happening to me?
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Because why is this happening to me Isn't going to help the situation.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: More of the same.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: So no wonder the person is like why, why am I attracting only micromanagers or boss who are all the time mic?
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: I wonder what kind of question they put in Google why is why are they always micromanaging me?
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Why that you'll get more answers of why, and then your focus will be your glasses will be on looking at every single thing they do that micromanages.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: How can I lose weight?
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: How can I grow?
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: How can I become better?
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Because of the micromanaging?
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's going to help me become stronger and better at this thing that I'm doing.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know everything and maybe I'm going to learn something from it.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: It's just looking at it from a different angle.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: It's just looking at it from a different angle.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: That's it, absolutely With gratitude, because even some of my clients can sometimes like this at me.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: They say what's good in it?
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: There's nothing good, and I say what's good in it?
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: So there's good in the bad and bad in the good.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: There's always something good and God will never put you through something unless it has something, and there's something in it for you.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: There's something, so ask what's in it for me?
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Can I just tell?
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: one quick story about this, because it's quick.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: This is a true story.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: There was a gentleman and he needed to get on a flight.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: And he's because he could miss the flight, because he had a very important meeting he had to be at.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: He runs through the lobby, runs out the door and ends up tripping and falls down the step and breaks his leg and ends up going to the hospital and misses his flight.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: When he's in the hospital they put the TVs on and breaking news.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: The airplane that he was supposed to be on blew up upon takeoff and everyone on the flight was killed.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Now you think at first, before he knew that fact, do you think he was grateful that he missed that flight?
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Huming with anger.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: He must be that if.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: And the thing is like.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: In that scenario you can clearly see why he would be grateful.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: But potentially we can't necessarily always see what's happening.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I'm driving a car and there's a person in front of me and they're driving really slow and I'm getting really annoyed, but maybe that's preventing me from being in a car accident down a little bit further down the road.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: I can't see all that, but we can be grateful.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: I'm grateful that I'm being slowed down because maybe I'm trusting there's a higher power that's taking care of me here.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: God's plan always better than Always, absolutely so.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: At the end of the book, daniel becomes the guide for someone else, and it's a beautiful full circle moment.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: What would you say to our listeners who feel they've heard the whisper, they had it multiple times, but don't know what to do next?
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: They get the whisper, they get the nudge, they get the voice, they get the small voice that's telling them do this.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: It seems illogical and they're stuck.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: They don't know what to do between these two voices.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: So how do they move from awareness to alignment, to taking, maybe baby steps, but still courageous, the steps and action, but still encourages the steps and action.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you just said it perfectly which is, once you hear the whisper, then the last step, which is the most important step, is you have to act on it as soon as you get it.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Just act on it Now.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that you have to start off with the whisper that you're going to quit your job, but start with smaller things, like build upon it slowly and get the confidence in that it actually works which it does work, because that voice inside of us is always leading us down the right path.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: And the way that we know it's that voice is it's not a whole dialogue and conversation and the way that we know it's that voice is it's not a whole dialogue and conversation.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: It's not trying to talk us out of anything.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: There's no dialogue.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: It's I have a feeling like you should do this.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: It's just, it's a message.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: You got it, you know it, and there's no dialogue.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: That happens.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Then we in our mind can start a dialogue, but again it's hearing that voice or hearing that message and then taking action on it, and we just keep practicing and practicing.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: And when we get confident, because we really see that it works, then we can start practicing it with some bigger things.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: And then we realize the power all along actually existed right inside of myself and all I had to do is tap into it.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: But again, that takes practice and no one initially is.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Most people don't believe that they have that true power.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: But again, we're going to build it by practice and then the confidence builds and then suddenly you realize, wow, this is really right inside of me.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: And then after that the key is teaching it to other people Once it's working for you.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: And you know, know it's working for you.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: There's other people that are struggling too and we can be the light for those people and help them see it and help them grow.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: And, like for the women that you're talking about that are running these big teams of people, when they get this message, sharing that with their team or individuals on their team and making differences to those people, that's only going to make their firm and their business that much stronger, because everyone's operating from this very powerful place.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Talking about sharing, michael has been so gracious as to offer this amazing book, the Whisper of God, for free.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: So if you want us to share a copy with you, dm us.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: God or Whisper of God for free.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: So if you want us to share a copy with you, dm us God or Whisper of God, and we will make sure we send you a copy, graciously offered by Michael Fulves, who is the author of this beautiful piece.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Michael, this conversation was more than insightful.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: I, for one, enjoyed every bit of it, as always.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for reminding us that careers, life, are not just about roles and about doing and about promotions, and about getting something more, getting more of whatever we want.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: More getting more of whatever we want.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: It's more about, first of all, reaching that place of alignment with that part of you that you're higher, calling your truth.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: And to our listeners, if you are hearing a whisper, I think Michael is going to tell you don't ignore it, sit with it, follow it, let it guide you.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Your most aligned, fulfilled career or promotion or upgrade, whatever it is that you want, isn't something you force, isn't something you struggle for, isn't something you hustle for, it's something you allow.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Michael, what's for you to do this?
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: I think again, we're right in alignment.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: It's allowing, and that's the key.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: It's like you don't want to resist, you don't want to force.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Think about when you've done this in your own life with anything.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: When you start resisting something or you start trying to force something to happen, it just doesn't work.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: It just doesn't work.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: And sometimes getting into that quiet space of being grateful and getting onto that frequency of gratitude, then suddenly these thoughts and people and ideas, just magically it's not magic, we're just on, we're operating on a different frequency, we're picking up a different signal and and therefore life starts working a lot better.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: And it happens.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Now we're bringing this to a close, Michael.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: What if you tell us a little bit about the people you work with and where good people find you if they want to reach out to you, Michael?
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess the best place.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: The people that I work with, my niche is really financial advisors as well, as they're called RVPs, specifically at insurance companies, so they're salespeople within the insurance, like large insurance companies, and the best way to reach out is just to go to the insurance, like large insurance companies, and the best way to reach out is just to go to the website, which is michaelfoxcoachcom, and on there, if you do want to ever have a consultation just free consultation you get on the waiting list for that and would love to have a conversation and, again, love to spread this to as many people as possible.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: And, Nabil, I just want to say to you thank you for being a light to other people and spreading this gift to so many people.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: We were talking earlier and you had mentioned how many conversations you've had over the years and I was thinking to myself that's incredible.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Think about all the people that you've actually impacted with those conversations and everyone listening.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: You have the ability to do the exact same thing, which is to have a conversation with someone else and to be that person in their life that makes a difference.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: I'm grateful.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: I'm grateful for you, Nabila, and I'm grateful to be here.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: I'm so grateful for you, michael, coming on my show in here, the Quantum Leadership Hacks, and until the last few words, if you want to say something otherwise, they can also find you on LinkedIn as well.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: I think you are also.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: You have a page on LinkedIn as well, if they want to search for it as well.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: So I'll make appointment.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Make appointment also can do that, which is putting MichaelFoxCoachcom and your name into LinkedIn.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: They will find you right.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: They will.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: I think if you search Michael Fox Coach, you'll find me too in there as well.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: But yes, correct, absolutely.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Thanks for the research, For all those hardworking women that are listening in.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: What I can tell you is that Nabila is amazing at what she does, and I'm not just saying that she didn't even know I was going to do this, but I'm just telling you she's incredible at what she does.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: So if you're watching this and you've been thinking about, maybe I should do this with Nabila.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: We've been talking about a whisper the entire time.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: This is the whisper.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: This is the whisper, and the key is now to take the action, to set up time with her, because this could be the moment that literally changes your life.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: And again, the whispers are all around us.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: The question is are we listening and are we acting on them?
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: I hope many people reach out to N Nabila, because I know the power that you have inside and I know how you really help people.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Let's keep helping lots of people.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much, likewise, michael.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: This has been so good.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Listen, everyone.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: We hope that this has been an enlightening conversation.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: If you get the whispers, you know what to do now.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: This is your sign.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: This is it.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: If you've been looking for a sign, this is it.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: So, until next time, keep leading, keep listening and keep living in alignment.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Thank you everyone and until next time.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Have a great day, everyone.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: And Michael, as always, thank you so much.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Thank you, nabila.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Next time, have a great day everyone, and Michael, as always, thank you so much.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Thank you, nabila Bye, for the podcast.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Today, we're going to do something slightly different.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: I was recently on another podcast where I was interviewed about a book that I have recently written called the Whisper of God the Path of Thanks.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Now, even though God is in the title, it's not a religious book.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: It's just talking about a higher power or divine source.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: I thought it would make sense, since this is a book podcast, to include this podcast for you to listen to, because there are some really great questions that were asked and I think the information will be very helpful.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: So sit back, enjoy and give us feedback and let us know how you like today's podcast.