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The Lake Worth Monster · HOLOSKY PODCAST

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[SPEAKER_01]: In the summer of 1969, a quiet area outside of Fort Worth, Texas, became the center of one of the strangest monster flaps in American history.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What started as a late night fishing trip turned into reports of a creature that sounded like something ripped straight out of folklore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Witnesses described a massive white-haired horned creature walking on two legs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They said it screamed like nothing they'd ever heard before, damaged vehicles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Through attire hundreds of feet and disappeared into the woods before anyone could figure out what they were looking at.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Police said it was a hoax.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some people said it was an animal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Others believed it was something much stranger that had showed up on the shores of Lake Worth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The interesting part is that it wasn't just one person who saw the creature.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was dozens of people, over several months, all describing something sinister.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What was the lake worth monster?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So as I was doing my research here, I realized something that had kind of slipped my mind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here in North America, we have our fair share of goat men.
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[SPEAKER_01]: which you've heard of a couple like you've heard of a public monster, which I think is probably the most popular public bridge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's probably the one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We also got the Waterford Sheet Man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That one doesn't sound scary at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, sheaps aren't that scary.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got the Marilyn goat man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Proctor Valley monster, just to name a few.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When I was in Texas last fall, I visited the
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[SPEAKER_01]: And a weird singularity, also known as the old Alton Bridge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's weird.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Which is a town close to where me and Calib.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it is strange.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: While there, uh, me and Maddox did wrap on the bridge three times, called for the goat man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fortunately, we didn't get any sinister goat man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It said to lurk around the old bridge.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it takes us to the general vicinity of where today's case takes place.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a different goat man and the same general vicinity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a nice we had so many goat men's stories.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So many is the right to goat man book.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There probably is a goat man book.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not for us to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, we all love a good synchronicity, which I had to write this down while I was doing my research.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And in odd one, I was researching this case the weekend of July 9, 2026, and it was exactly 57 years to the day from when the case first happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: July 9, 1969.
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[SPEAKER_00]: To the day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: To the day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's wild.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To this day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To this day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the, that's the, that's the,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what you got.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The paranormal acknowledging you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The universe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the paranormal, the halivers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The infinite intelligence.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what we got.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's about true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so we're going to get into it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's late in the evening and one John right cart and his wife Linda and two other couples are parked around Greer Island on Lake Worst.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and Lake Worth Texas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: John's out there to do Kyle's favorite pastime.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A little bit of fish in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but at the same time, you're still in also caught Norfish out of there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, every ever caught a monster bass at Lake Worth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when I told him I was doing the research on the Lake Worth monster, he said he's never going back because there's a monster that's fishing for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Was that his PB?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a thick boy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, awesome that he got it out of that lake.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, where the that's why the that's why the goat man hung out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean if if you if you hear this, it's worth it What if if you have another PB Lirkin in the waters there dude and you can prove that the goat man exists.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you could fight the goat man While getting your PB.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's it's two for one special or maybe the goat man tries to steal your PB and then you gotta find him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's, bro, that happens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going on a shirt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to be interviewed by a lot of paranormal podcasts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So John's out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Got to pull in the water.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just waiting for a bite.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, just doing what we do best.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just waiting for a bite.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He heard the fish in a younger island was good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But up to this point, not that good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: his wife was growing impatient and finally she's like you know what I'm going to kick it in the car and listen to radio because you're not good at this so car was situated up on the bank there were two other cars there with couples and I'm just doing what couples do at night on the lake around midnight John gets some luck polls binden rails it in nice sized channel cat he's like all right sick one on the board lands it as he's taking the hook out
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[SPEAKER_01]: He starts here in blood-curdling screams come from the parking lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: John, here's it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, oh, damn, that sound like my old lady.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mama's in trouble.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he spun around to see to look toward the parking lot with a car was parked, and he saw something that he could not believe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A giant bipedal creature was standing on the hood of his car.
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[SPEAKER_01]: John immediately goes into fighter flight mode, tosses the pole and fish aside, and scrambles up the bank toward his wife.
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[SPEAKER_01]: By the time he makes it up there, the creature has retreated from the roof and is now standing at the passenger side of the car, exactly where Linda was setting, and he also hears commotion coming from the other two couples who are watching what's going on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The closer John gets, the more he can't believe what he's seeing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a man, it's not a bear, he doesn't know what it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some kind of beast standing on two legs covered in scraggly white course hair.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was described as having what he thought were two horns protruding and curling out of his head.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He can also see what he thinks are reflective scales on some part of the creature's body.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is a strange one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a wild description.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, fish like goat man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's also a construction worker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He hasn't high of his on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: John, being an OG.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just, yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Trucks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This creature.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He can give it a gold bird's beard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Full on shoulder checks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, this giant creature.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because he's like, leave my old lady alone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All he doesn't, isn't able to tackle it outright.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope he said it just like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he just goes leave my own lady alone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He did hit it hard enough to knock it off balance to where it stumbles away from the car.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It gives him an opening to jump in the driver's seat, crank it up, and go to take off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Meanwhile, the creature's regaining its footing and it is pissed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It lunges at the car and swipes at the passenger side door.
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[SPEAKER_01]: John guns it as the creature locks onto the trunk and tries to jump onto the back of the vehicle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's T1000.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling you, I haven't even put it here like something out of a horror movie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: John is weaving the car back and forth on the road and eventually managed to shake the
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[SPEAKER_01]: tumble out of the road into the woods.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 100% what happens in Terminator 2.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Which is probably a fryer where they got the idea for that scene.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A retelling of the Lake Worth Monster.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It did it with T1000.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't bother to click with metal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just morphs into the car.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Damn it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He goes this shoulder check and goes right through.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't bother to hang out to see if the thing got up again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was out of there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Miles down the road, they pull in to Chanel's cafe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For the couple run inside and asked to use the phone to call the police.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Short time later, Petrolman James McGee of the Fort Worth Police Department arrives at the cafe and asks for John.
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[SPEAKER_01]: the couple recant their tale of the attack to the officer who obviously doesn't believe them because giant goat man, but he does go outside to inspect their vehicle while he's out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His story changes a little bit because he sees 18 inch claw marks left on the car.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because like, yeah, what's going to leave 18 inch claw marks down the side of a call.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was trying to roll my brain through that scenario to think of a monster down there that would do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm also not familiar with large game in Texas.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Me either.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the guy's got goat man fucking goat man or
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[SPEAKER_00]: some type of noras like the only thing that I think of is either a big ass bear or a big ass like elk.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, some of the antlers that has the ability to just like jab it into the core because deer, horned animals are dumb like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've had it happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The elk man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was suck.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was suck.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So at this point, three other patrol cars pull into the parking lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Linda gives a full statement saying that the creature dropped down from a tree onto the roof of the car.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then it moved the passenger side where she was sitting where it reached through the window and took a swipe at her with its clawed hand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Luckily, she was fast enough to slide to the other side of the car and avoid the creature's grasp.
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[SPEAKER_01]: John insisted that neither one of them had been drinking that night, and the officer could see the couples that the couple were indeed upset at whatever had happened.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At this point, two more cars pulled into the parking lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Those two cars being the other two couple that were at Greer Island, they corroborated a record story, telling the officers that they had also seen the thing as it ran into the woods and disappeared.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was enough for the four officers to follow John back to the location to look for the beast, although to know a veil.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They did however let the couple know that there have been numerous reports of people seeing a similar creature over the last two months.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What the fuck?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the department wrote them all off his hoaxes and didn't follow up on any of the sightings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was gonna say, how?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like how you go two months was getting reports and then somebody comes in, scared it out of their mind and like go I just saw this thing it was terrifying, it was huge, it was basically a construction worker goat, man fish man and it fucked my car all up almost got my wife, which don't obviously can't let that happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, you're right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, whatever nerd.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then they go outside.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, Oh, well, the goat man got your car.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love to see that realization hit their face where they walk out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, Oh, shit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So all the people, the past two months, they've totally not been lying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're saying we should have taken this seriously right we should have done our job and investigated even if it was an outlet and loudlandish claim which it would have been the first time you hear it you've heard anything in the air right whatever also other another question
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why would why like what makes them think it's okay to return to the scene where giant creature wrecks car and then like let's just go back and find it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like at that point, they hadn't taken it seriously, which I wrote here, probably an oversight on their part.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now they've got evidence that this thing is real.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like, you know what, maybe we should do what we're paid to do and go and investigate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I guess in my head, you'd be going back for a reason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you're not gonna rest it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you guys are going with the mindset of putting it down and I would assume or to find some tracks or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It just seems kind of brazen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or just the lack of brain cells.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe John needed to get his fish and stuff back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he did leave a trophy cat on the beach there, so Unless the go-man took that, they might took that as counseling surprise.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't get the wife.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll take the fucking the fish
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[SPEAKER_01]: word spreads fast in four or so because the next morning, which was July 10, 1969, fourth, worth star telegrams front page read fish goat man terrifies couples, parked at Lake Worth, which is awesome a fish goat man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's awesome that the local paper wrote about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's super rad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What year was this again?
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[SPEAKER_00]: 69.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's a minute.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a minute.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's back when life was cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they would write articles about stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, uh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did they did the community mobilize?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hell yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's Texas.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, can you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I'll never.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think we'll ever be able to imagine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: a time when something like that hits the paper and then the local community is like, that's it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We can't let this happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not an our community.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, fishy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No fucking sir.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, fishy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Goatman's going to scare off our partners and how like also how does that transpire?
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[SPEAKER_00]: How does I would love to know back then not now because we'd know that it would
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[SPEAKER_00]: But back then, how did they mobilize the town?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, if it's on the front page of the paper, the paper used to be social media.
20:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, but didn't like, were they all that like?
20:12
[SPEAKER_01]: get in breakfast one morning and they're just like this is bullshit we came do you see Steve did you see this whip the paper like you see this shit i mentioned them all just reading the paper and then them all congregating on the lake like accidentally you got like just awesome three good old boys in this truck going out and four in this one they all get there and they're like all right
20:34
[SPEAKER_00]: That that would also be a crazy realization, you know, if you and your buddies are crazy enough to be like that's it.
20:41
[SPEAKER_00]: We're patrolling the town and then you get down there and there's like six more trucks of guys and they're like, Oh, shit, we're all patrolling the town.
20:48
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
20:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Hell yeah, boy.
20:50
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you know.
20:55
[SPEAKER_00]: if that's how it turns out them, then boys are stoked.
21:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
21:00
[SPEAKER_00]: The fact that they see other boys out there with the hammers ready to get it.
21:06
[SPEAKER_00]: They're they're just that's literally dumping gasoline on the fire.
21:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Taking our fish and whole back.
21:13
[SPEAKER_00]: That's exactly it.
21:15
[SPEAKER_01]: So journalist Jim Mar wrote,
21:18
[SPEAKER_01]: The article quote six terrified residents told police early today that they were attacked by a thing they described as being half man half goat covered in fur and scales.
21:28
[SPEAKER_01]: He also interviewed officer McGee who said, quote, we did a serious investigation because these people were scared.
21:36
[SPEAKER_01]: McGee did say that he believed the couples had been victim to a prankster and suggested that someone had, quote, thrown a dummy on the car, or it was someone in an ape costume.
21:48
[SPEAKER_01]: He did condone the prank stating that pranks like these are dangerous and could end up with the prankster being shot.
21:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what prankster tore giant rips down the body of the car, but despite the police insisting that the encounter had been a hoax, the headline stirred up enough local interest that more than 200 people showed up near Greer Island that very evening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, they'd all gathered near an area known as the pit.
22:17
[SPEAKER_01]: The pit is across from Greer Island that consisted of a high rocky ridge overlooking a wide grass clearing that evolves into a thick forest.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Members of the crowd that night reported to include an officer from Tarant County Sheriff's Department.
22:30
[SPEAKER_01]: As the group were all sitting there around their cars talking about a wood trans about what had transpired that day, several of them saw what they described as an upright figure
22:47
[SPEAKER_01]: A few minutes later, a loud animal-like scream tore through the area as the creature reemerged on top of the cliff.
22:55
[SPEAKER_01]: The party watched as the creature began sprinting back and forth along the cliff edge on two legs, and it was reported to be white or gray in color.
23:04
[SPEAKER_01]: So this thing's just put on a show.
23:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just on.
23:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Just put on a show.
23:09
[SPEAKER_01]: At this point in true Texas fashion, some of the crowd decided to try and rush the creatures they ran toward it.
23:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Hello, it's just our shooting.
23:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Prompting it to run back into the thick forest, only to return carrying a tire on a rim that it threw toward the crowd.
23:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
23:27
[SPEAKER_01]: And when I say through, I mean chucked because it cleared the group completely, landing
23:40
[SPEAKER_01]: overshot that one.
23:41
[SPEAKER_01]: So, me and Chad GBT looked it up and we did some math for you all.
23:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Alright.
23:49
[SPEAKER_01]: So the standard 14 to 15 inch tire on a steel rim in the late 60s weighed somewhere from 38 to 50 pounds.
23:55
[SPEAKER_01]: That's decent amount.
23:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Throwing a 45 pound tire.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've dead dead the center to 45 pound tire.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 500 feet, 500 feet requires roughly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 40 to 50 times more force and 40 percent more release speed than an elite NFL quarterback uses to throw a standard football.
24:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.
24:17
[SPEAKER_01]: So 50 times the force and 40 percent more speed.
24:23
[SPEAKER_01]: So I did a breakdown here to show how much humanly or to show how humanly impossible it is to throw a tire.
24:30
[SPEAKER_01]: So if a NFL quarterback throws a standard football, which is 14.5 ounces, compared to the 45 pound tire, you say a NFL quarterback can probably throw a football, let's say 80 yards, then I know they can throw farther than that.
24:50
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't throw as far as that, whatever.
24:53
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's like 40 pounds of force to throw the football that far where you need 1700 pounds of force to throw the giant tire That's a lot.
25:05
[SPEAKER_00]: That's big difference.
25:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
25:08
[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's big difference Yes, so what you're saying is this thing was fucking swole.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah NFL
25:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Elite arms like Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes max out their throwing speed around 60 to 62 miles per hour measured at the NFL Combine, you would need to throw an object 50 times heavier than a football at a speed that exceeds their absolute maximum by 25 miles per hour.
25:34
[SPEAKER_01]: So something, just hawk to that thing.
25:38
[SPEAKER_00]: That's, that is impressive.
25:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, for scaling, because a football is so light, a quarterback only needs to exert 40 pounds of force during the throwing motion, whereas the 1700 pounds of force needed to throw a 45 pound tire is equivalent to the bite force of a saltwater crocodile, or the force required to bridge, to bench press, an entire compact car.
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[SPEAKER_00]: if you're a goat man.
26:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
26:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
26:07
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to put my money on there not being a peak.
26:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
26:14
[SPEAKER_00]: What's it?
26:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it was a spare tire.
26:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I could have been still still heavy.
26:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's not.
26:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not doing it a lot of justice by suggesting that so let's do it if you had a massive crowd see that.
26:32
[SPEAKER_00]: How do you just beat that?
26:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you don't you don't yeah, so not it not a the the greatest NFL quarterback that never was hiding in the woods.
26:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to say
26:45
[SPEAKER_01]: So this show of force started a lot of the crowd.
26:48
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of them take off running to their cars, jumping in, just getting the hell out of Dodge.
26:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Few good old boys got their guns, decided to go after the monster to know a veil.
27:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Luckily, no one was injured in the ruckus of people taking off.
27:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Despite the hunting party and the mass eggs at a vehicles, there was one witness who did back their car into a tree trying to run away from the tire tossing monster.
27:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, nerves give the best to be in that type of situation.
27:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
27:19
[SPEAKER_00]: He did just have a tire chucked at you.
27:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I get it.
27:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I get it.
27:23
[SPEAKER_00]: It is intimidating.
27:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
27:26
[SPEAKER_01]: The following day, the Fort Worth Star Telegram ran a follow-up article with details from the newest encounter.
27:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Witnesses describe the creature as a large being with gray or white coarse hair on its body, much like that of a goat.
27:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Some of them reported seeing horns on its head as well.
27:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Jack Harris told reporters quote the creature walked like a man, but it didn't look like one.
27:50
[SPEAKER_01]: He looked like he was seven feet tall, must've waited about 300 pounds.
27:54
[SPEAKER_01]: We were driving around trying to find it when we heard it squalling.
27:59
[SPEAKER_01]: We heard it before we saw it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He described the squirrel as a pitiful cry that didn't sound human.
28:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I hate it when creatures are squalling.
28:09
[SPEAKER_00]: It's true.
28:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Also,
28:13
[SPEAKER_00]: logical, in this instance, that dude was way off on his, um, sizing weight, I'm going to say, probably yes, because it just made me think you said that seven foot three hundred pounds.
28:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, we have people that like,
28:33
[SPEAKER_00]: match that today.
28:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
28:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't feel like they have the muscle strength to do anything close to that.
28:40
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
28:41
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm assuming that you're probably several hundred pounds off.
28:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
28:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
28:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Of what this thing actually weighed.
28:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Because like the wrestler big show was seven foot tall and he was 500 pounds.
28:54
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a big dude too.
28:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
28:56
[SPEAKER_01]: So a 300 pounds, you're going to be
29:00
[SPEAKER_00]: this.
29:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and even the big show not even close to he's not going to throw tire that far.
29:06
[SPEAKER_00]: No, sure you could argue that, you know, the muscle mass would be different between the two.
29:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, of course, but still, I still don't feel like that generates that kind of power.
29:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Now a big show also doesn't have horns or scales.
29:23
[SPEAKER_01]: True.
29:24
[SPEAKER_01]: So the more press, quote, the thing, which is now what it was being called was getting, the more people were coming forward with sightings.
29:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Terrent County Sheriff officer, Lawn Evans gave reporters his take.
29:38
[SPEAKER_01]: There may be a prankster going around there dressed up like some kind of monster.
29:42
[SPEAKER_01]: If he is, it's a good way to get shot.
29:45
[SPEAKER_01]: There's also the possibility that some people are having...
29:50
[SPEAKER_01]: There is also the possibility that some people have hypnotized themselves and are convinced that they saw some kind of apparition, although they didn't actually do it.
29:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Would have been way too much fun to be alive at that time.
30:03
[SPEAKER_00]: The fact that we go from that being a prankster, because I'm going to assume I'm going to assume.
30:11
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is just a shot in the dark throwing shit just to get a wall.
30:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna assume that if it was a prankster, because think about Jersey, though, we'll just use where we live as an example.
30:24
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you have your surrounding towns, right?
30:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like that if somebody was running around here would legitimately prank in people,
30:38
[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably going to take about 30 minutes to figure out who that individual is.
30:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to tell you why because there's seven foot 300 pounds, that's not an average.
30:53
[SPEAKER_00]: in local communities.
30:55
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not average anywhere.
30:57
[SPEAKER_00]: So that person is going to stand out like a sore thumb, but at the same time to also suggest that if it's not a stranger, which it's obviously not, the only other explanation is that all of these people just hypnotize themselves.
31:17
[SPEAKER_01]: How does one hypnotize themselves?
31:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Literally everyone turned into Chris Angel, mind-free
31:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Texas Mindfreak except I call it MindFuck.
31:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Texas MindFuck.
31:31
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the new cryptid.
31:32
[SPEAKER_01]: The mind freak.
31:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
31:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Where you just hypnotize yourself and see him cryptid.
31:39
[SPEAKER_01]: It's awesome.
31:39
[SPEAKER_01]: We solved it.
31:40
[SPEAKER_00]: And we did.
31:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, oh boy, whatever this whatever this door's name was.
31:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we just we just we just flashed up his explanation.
31:48
[SPEAKER_00]: That's all we did.
31:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Juan Evans here.
31:50
[SPEAKER_01]: He you hypnotized yourself pranksters.
31:53
[SPEAKER_00]: That dude is obviously a fucking thinker.
31:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
31:57
[SPEAKER_01]: And I put, this is a prime example of witnesses being dismissed by law enforcement.
32:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're usually good at their job.
32:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Luckily old Ron's opinion didn't stop witnesses from coming forward.
32:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Multiple people came forward hearing the strange screams at night.
32:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Witnesses saw the creature sprint across open grass fields.
32:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Five witnesses that were out looking for the creature saw it tearing down limbs from a huge oak tree.
32:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Just being fucking mad at you.
32:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just because I come get it coming get it.
32:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he's he going to it is I fucked up with the tire Boy, I'm just gonna make me some bats.
32:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah
32:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Ronnie Armstrong, another local, you got lawn, you got lawn, just a whole thing going on.
32:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Who was a witness to the tire flinging incident earlier?
32:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Later went on to claim that the creature had been wounded by a gunshot.
32:53
[SPEAKER_01]: He stated that he found a pool of blood near a picnic table and the blood trail led down to the water's edge where he assumed the creature had swam over to
33:05
[SPEAKER_01]: He also claimed to see some tracks discovered by other witnesses on the banks of the lake.
33:10
[SPEAKER_01]: He stated that the tracks measured 16 inches long with a toast spread of eight inches, appearing to be made by something very heavy.
33:18
[SPEAKER_01]: He felt it was probably made by some sort of great white ape.
33:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks Ronnie.
33:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for chiming in.
33:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I love how they stuff, everything he relayed, he gave the collision is a great boy named.
33:37
[SPEAKER_00]: How the fuck do you get the color?
33:40
[SPEAKER_00]: How do you get the color?
33:42
[SPEAKER_00]: How do you get the color?
33:44
[SPEAKER_00]: From blood and footprints.
33:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Do guerrilla swim a lot like Because I don't I feel like that's not a thing.
33:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I'm sure they can.
33:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I don't feel like they're just hanging around the lake now.
33:57
[SPEAKER_00]: They're not known for that.
33:58
[SPEAKER_00]: No They're not known for that.
34:01
[SPEAKER_01]: That's Awesome So as time went on Many later sightings weren't recorded and we're just basically blurt brushed off by the press
34:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Lucky for us.
34:15
[SPEAKER_01]: We got 10G.
34:17
[SPEAKER_01]: A woman by the name of Sally and Clark took it upon herself to strap up her boots, put them on the ground, and after the initial newspaper released, she went out with her cassette recorder in her notebook, and she started interviewing people.
34:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Heck yeah.
34:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Interviewing people.
34:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Anybody that's seen the creature, anybody lived in the area, she was on the ground talking about it.
34:40
[SPEAKER_01]: She interviewed all kinds of witnesses.
34:42
[SPEAKER_01]: She went on to self-publish a book called The Lakeworth Monster of Greer Island, Fort Worth, Texas, capturing a lot of information that would have completely been lost to time had she not done it because the press just kind of washed their hands of the whole scenario.
34:56
[SPEAKER_01]: This is why, hollow cult, it is important to record your experiences.
35:05
[SPEAKER_01]: So these encounters don't fall away with time.
35:08
[SPEAKER_01]: This is what good journalism is.
35:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Agreed, agreed.
35:12
[SPEAKER_00]: And took a set of cahones.
35:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I've already get out there with a cassette recorder.
35:19
[SPEAKER_00]: And just start interviewing everybody.
35:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, bad ass.
35:23
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, it's pretty awesome.
35:26
[SPEAKER_01]: It is on.
35:27
[SPEAKER_01]: We need more of that.
35:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
35:29
[SPEAKER_01]: How do I need, I need to do that.
35:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I know in my head, I was thinking of myself, I'm like, what Steve and I need to do is invest in table courts.
35:37
[SPEAKER_00]: In creating our own newspaper, we need to buy printing press.
35:42
[SPEAKER_00]: But then I thought immediately after that, I'm like, yeah, but weird stuff doesn't happen every day in our own town.
35:48
[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, that's not a good idea.
35:53
[SPEAKER_01]: someone did lose a casket along the road the other day.
35:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
35:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it would be cool.
35:57
[SPEAKER_00]: It would be cool to make our own newspaper.
35:59
[SPEAKER_00]: That would be dope.
36:01
[SPEAKER_00]: But as far as covering normal stories, that's not going to be fun for Stephen.
36:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care about normal stuff.
36:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I need fishy goat man.
36:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Throwing tires at me.
36:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Agreed.
36:15
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, Sally Ann.
36:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Miss Sally Ann Clark.
36:20
[SPEAKER_01]: out there boots on the ground, tape recorder screaming, seeing what to see and what's going on over there.
36:27
[SPEAKER_00]: What's she in cover, Steve?
36:29
[SPEAKER_01]: She interviewed one man by the name of Jim Stevens from Blue Mountain, Texas.
36:33
[SPEAKER_01]: He sounds smart.
36:34
[SPEAKER_01]: He said the beast had jumped onto the hood of his car one night and seeing two other members driving around the lake looking for it.
36:41
[SPEAKER_01]: They heard about the creature where they were out fishing.
36:45
[SPEAKER_01]: That day and decided to investigate later that evening.
36:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they found him because he jumped on the hood of their moving car said the creature clung on to the hood until we until he swirbed and smashed it into a tree Or the beast hopped off and ran into the forest Jim said it was Jim said quote, it was real big and human-like but burnt scars all over its face arm and chest Which is a new turn of events
37:16
[SPEAKER_01]: He said, I'm six, four, and the thing was a lot taller than I am, at least seven foot, perhaps taller.
37:22
[SPEAKER_01]: The only people that don't believe me are the ones that ain't seen it.
37:26
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, you either see something or you don't, and I saw it in quote.
37:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
37:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think that if I was Sally, the first thing I'd say is, let me see your car.
37:36
[SPEAKER_00]: If I was Sally I'd say, who set the monster on fire that to that to I mean that's a good tactic though if it's hairy definitely Flam thrower.
37:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah definitely it's a good it's a good move.
37:52
[SPEAKER_01]: All jokes aside it's almost like they're seeing different creatures In a yeah, but also parallel
38:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I get yeah like the the white hair yes, but how do you confuse horns how do you see horns and don't see horns that's a good question Especially if you're looking at the like you see as faces marked where you don't notice them have horns maybe it was multiple creatures But maybe one was male and one was female.
38:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that could be a thing.
38:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know that could definitely be a thing You know say something else, but now forget
38:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Jim had a good point with you either see something or you don't.
38:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's true.
38:38
[SPEAKER_01]: You either see something or you don't.
38:39
[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
38:40
[SPEAKER_00]: He saw it.
38:42
[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't see it.
38:43
[SPEAKER_00]: And his story is pretty interesting.
38:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, I would try to see the vehicle.
38:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd want to see the vehicle.
38:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that'd be a new row, you know.
38:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, what I was going to say is that this is one of the reasons why I do, because everybody knows.
39:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I like conspiracies and extraterrestrial.
39:09
[SPEAKER_00]: However, this is a reason why I like cryptid stories, because for whatever reason,
39:19
[SPEAKER_00]: when it comes to cryptids, people will fight them.
39:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
39:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Like ghosts, most people not, they're not trying to fight a ghost, scare some aliens, hell no.
39:31
[SPEAKER_00]: It's even less people that are trying to fight aliens.
39:35
[SPEAKER_00]: But cryptids, I guess it's because it appears at least as flesh and blood, and they just run with the predator, you know, if it bleeds, we can kill it.
39:46
[SPEAKER_00]: So they, they like in literally and almost every crippled story that we've done There's some one tries to fight it.
39:55
[SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna love how the next guy fights it.
39:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Hell yeah And also when we're in parallel the story next week, which is an alien abduction story That guy tries to fight the aliens.
40:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Good for him.
40:05
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's good.
40:06
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a good tangent.
40:07
[SPEAKER_01]: You let us on there, go So that summer the summer 69 more and more encounter surfaced and theories abound
40:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Some people said they thought the creature could be a bobcat.
40:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, awesome.
40:21
[SPEAKER_01]: A seven foot, 300 pound, two leg at bobcat with horns.
40:28
[SPEAKER_01]: On fire, awesome.
40:31
[SPEAKER_01]: That's straight out of the pits of L. The police even corroborated a report that someone had released a pet bobcat in the area.
40:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, shit.
40:39
[SPEAKER_01]: So.
40:41
[SPEAKER_01]: It had also been reported to be jumping on the hoods of park cars.
40:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, now, if it was a Bobcat in the, we can't do jump on stuff.
40:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
40:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't think that I've ever seen one that's seven foot tall 300 plus.
40:58
[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's exactly what I said.
41:00
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a big, it's a big Bobcat.
41:03
[SPEAKER_00]: What I say in my notes, this technically wouldn't that fall into a different cat category.
41:09
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a new cryptid.
41:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's an ABC.
41:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
41:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what the fuck everybody's talking about, Panthers and shit.
41:18
[SPEAKER_01]: That's an alien big cat.
41:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I even say that in my notes.
41:24
[SPEAKER_00]: We need to make sure that just this alien big cat.
41:28
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just a bobcat on two legs.
41:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's face burn off.
41:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we have horns from hell.
41:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and we just have a marker.
41:35
[SPEAKER_00]: It says seven foot, 300 pounds.
41:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like a wrestling marquee.
41:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
41:39
[SPEAKER_01]: It's chucking a tire.
41:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
41:43
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I said this could account for the strange screams, because bobcat is screams do sound weird.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: However,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Call me crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not a scientist.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not a biologist.
41:53
[SPEAKER_01]: This doesn't account for people seeing a seven foot tall 350 pound tire chucking card damaging horn creature roaming the area.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can't win them all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love what's a good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I say it again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I said like four times already.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What a time to be alive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The fact that people are
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[SPEAKER_00]: completely out of their mind were literally like I just I just picture a town hall meeting and some dude in the back is like then uh my that might be a bobcat and the cops are like that's has a matter of fact we just had someone submit
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[SPEAKER_00]: I report that somebody released a bobcat from captivity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 100% is this is death this is it this is it guys we figured we figured it out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a bobcat solved it who that's see this this explains everything you mix that with the
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[SPEAKER_00]: the self hypnosis, there you go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how you get a Bobcat turned into seven foot three hundred plus pound creature with horns and on fire.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Brock Lesnar of Cats.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Brock Lesnar of Cats.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As ever, it's ever used to refer to the Loch Ness Monster as the Brock Ness Monster.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, that's good, that's good.
43:19
[SPEAKER_00]: That's solid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we know
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[SPEAKER_01]: We all hear in the hollow camp.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We know that the phenomena knows and likes to mock theory sometimes, okay?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because after that was put out that it could be a Bobcat, people started finding the 16 inch tracks next to Bobcat tracks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Almost as if it was saying, you're dumb.
43:53
[SPEAKER_00]: That is actually awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Completely fucked up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did not see that coming.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
43:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I was waiting for like something crazy like people saw like a grimland amount of Bobcats in the town.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Something something like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did not expect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: for the go-man to just follow, have a pet bobcat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's now walking his bobcat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Go-man tracks being found in conjunction with actual bobcat tracks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's crazy.
44:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Almost as if the two were traveling together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's one of the most interesting details of the case so far.
44:30
[SPEAKER_00]: In that weird, that is super weird.
44:33
[SPEAKER_00]: That is way weirder than I think anybody can tell that I'm trying to portray.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is fucking bizarre.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's almost like it now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a little bit like as much as I dislike that idea.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What other way do you have to explain that?
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's weird sometimes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're around here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Unless the the the go man actually has a bobcat pet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Outside of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how you explain that.
45:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The encounters continued into the fall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: November brought one of the most interesting encounters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be Kyle's favorite because there's another altercation
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[SPEAKER_01]: first you had John shoulder checking now gets real wild.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
45:28
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I figured it was already wild, but damn.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A man by the name of Charles Buchin and the set out on November 7th to do a little fish in your great island.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Been a long day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Charles didn't have anything else on his literary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he just decided to camp out in the bed of his truck so he could wake up early.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe get a little, little, don fishing, catch the Don bite.
45:52
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a good idea.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He said a sleeping bag in the bed of his truck, called it a night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: However, around 2am, he was a woken by his truck shaking violently.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As a gatherer, his bearings and lifted his head, he sees a massive hairy face looking at him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: before he could even respond, the creature grabbed him inside a sleeping bag, lifted him a few feet off the bed, and then dropped him back now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, you can't have didn't did what any of us would do in this scenario.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He reached for the nearest weapon he could find, which was not a bat, not a gun, not even a
46:47
[SPEAKER_01]: It was actually some leftover barbecue chicken that I've been stacking on earlier that evening.
46:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I did not see that coming.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He grabbed the leftovers and shoved it into the creature's mouth saying quote.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The monster took it into his mouth, and with gutteral noises, he loped off through the trees, splashed into the water, and begins swimming with powerful strokes toward Grair Island.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's more than snack.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was it.
47:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Nice smell of the chicken.
47:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Texas has good food.
47:20
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's crazy is twice now in the story I've been reminded of movies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: First one, T1000, Terminator 2, great movie, great movie, I've seen it.
47:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Second movie after this story, this encounter reminds me exactly of Bigfoot in a goofy movie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, because he's dancing too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then they didn't eat some of their food.
47:52
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like it does.
47:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it does.
47:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's just that meeting.
47:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't seen a good one.
47:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it does remind me a little bit of that encounter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't in reports that as it retreated, it toppled several four-inch thick saplings along the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He described the creature as being about quote, about seven and a half feet tall, was short or with long arms and short stubby deformed fingers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He estimated the weight of the creature between 750 and 1,000 pounds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a little more appropriate.
48:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Significantly bigger than the July signings.
48:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a little more appropriate.
48:34
[SPEAKER_00]: But we did, we did lose some key details, right?
48:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Did he mention the horns at all?
48:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Nope, no, no horns, and obviously no claws.
48:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Nope, just shorts, stubby-deformed fingers.
48:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's got shitty hands.
48:48
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't mention that.
48:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Your pictures aren't right, it's real bad.
48:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Didn't say that it'll look like you've been set on fire, either.
48:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Also true.
48:54
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe we got three creatures now around, like worth.
48:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Weird, we don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cause you can look at something and be like, yeah, that's about 300 pounds.
49:05
[SPEAKER_01]: But you're not gonna look at something that's a thousand pounds and say, yeah, that's about 300 pounds.
49:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I would agree with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: drastically different.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How to agree with that?
49:14
[SPEAKER_01]: he where he said it was like a cross between a human and an ape.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He did report seeing one footprint.
49:22
[SPEAKER_01]: It was shaped like that of a human foot except it was 18 inches long and its toes were also extra long almost three inches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it is long toe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The creature was also reported to be caught on film a few times during the 1969 flap.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A 22-year-old man named Alan Plaster had been visiting the area, often that fall, and attempt to spot the creature.
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[SPEAKER_01]: On November 19, he was out with two friends near Guerrero Island when he finally saw the creature.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He grabbed his Polaroid camera, snapped a few photos with one of them crapped crapturing, with one of them capturing the creature dead center of the frame.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The photo was sort of what you've grown to expect from a cryptid photo, especially one taken in 1969.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a blurry figure standing in the grass, facing away from the camera.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It appeared to be covered with wider gray fur, just as the other ports have said, but no other discernible details could be made out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no face, no appendages, no horns, just a gray blob in the middle of the photo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't say because a lot of these descriptions
50:38
[SPEAKER_00]: does it is very big-footy minus the couple reports of horns and scales and I ask you.
50:48
[SPEAKER_01]: It does feel like big-foot report or there's multiple creatures or there's multiple creatures.
50:52
[SPEAKER_01]: That's where I'm at.
50:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm with you on that.
50:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Which if there is?
50:56
[SPEAKER_00]: There's something that makes sense.
50:57
[SPEAKER_01]: If there is multiple creatures, what about like worth brought them all there?
51:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, obviously wasn't the fishing because John said you didn't have a good and he wasn't doing very good.
51:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, maybe that's why.
51:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they ate all the damn fish.
51:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's fair.
51:11
[SPEAKER_01]: That's fair.
51:13
[SPEAKER_01]: So Alan contacted
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[SPEAKER_01]: our old girl Sally, who then went with him to the place where the photo was taken and they noticed that the creature had been standing in a ditch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sally, being the journalist she is, noticed that it was also next to a tree where they used it as a size comparing comparison, estimating this said creature in photo to be seven feet tall.
51:38
[SPEAKER_01]: So it was big.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're pretty on par with the height.
51:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
51:42
[SPEAKER_01]: It being a polaroid meant that there was only one copy of the photo and it's still believed to be in the possession of the family of Sally and Clark.
51:50
[SPEAKER_01]: You can see the photo online, just search up Lake Worth Monster Photo and there's a couple of them there.
51:58
[SPEAKER_01]: So definitely go check that out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll probably share it on the Patreon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This photo wasn't
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[SPEAKER_01]: Another guy by the name of Bobby Brooks, the man who would actually illustrate Sally's book, which Sally's book is hard to come by.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there was only 500 copies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She wrote the whole thing by herself.
52:18
[SPEAKER_01]: She published the whole thing by herself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of a coveted piece of literature in the paranormal big footing world.
52:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, back to Bobby.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He also managed to snap a puller right into the creature.
52:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Late one night, he was driving near Greir Island.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When a massive gray white creature sprinted past his headlights and jumped a barbed wire fence next to the road.
52:43
[SPEAKER_01]: After clearing the fence, the creature stood there next to the forest for a minute or so, giving Brooks the opportunity to grab his camera and snap two photos.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The best of which shows a light color humanoid creature standing near some tree branches.
52:57
[SPEAKER_01]: While the size couldn't be estimated, it does seem similar to the creature in plaster's photos taken just two weeks earlier.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can also see this photo online.
53:08
[SPEAKER_01]: This one has a little more detail, and this one definitely looks like a person in a suit.
53:14
[SPEAKER_01]: So when you look that up, do with that information what you will.
53:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of reminds you of the lizard man.
53:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, yeah, oh, just about not quite as bad.
53:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Lizard Man was bad.
53:28
[SPEAKER_01]: The Lizard Man was the greatest crypto zoological piece of evidence I've ever seen in my life.
53:35
[SPEAKER_01]: That's just, that's just a word of it.
53:37
[SPEAKER_01]: What is it?
53:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, remind me and I will show you after the episode and I'll post those up.
53:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure they're going to be great.
53:53
[SPEAKER_01]: the main source that I used, it's a book called Lakeworth Monster, the true story of the Greer Island Goatman by Lyle Blackburn.
54:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I took all of the main encounters that happened in that summer of 69 from the book.
54:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Lyle has been boots on the ground and interviewed people that were there during that summer.
54:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Great book.
54:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't go into everything.
54:23
[SPEAKER_01]: So you guys need to definitely check it out.
54:25
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got newspaper articles and the photos and the book that he's allowed to use definitely grab it.
54:31
[SPEAKER_01]: It's awesome.
54:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Did he have any running theories on what it actually would have been?
54:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Was it does he think it was a goat man or does he think it was like a big foot?
54:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I think now there's the actual tire.
54:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh shit.
54:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think I think it kind of leans more toward like a big like a Sasquatch-esque monster.
54:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe some sort of like offshoot species, but he said since since the the witnesses all saw different things
55:07
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't know of his multiple different creatures or what, but aside from the the side from the initial horns and scales of the first encounter, the rest of them are very Sasquatch in nature.
55:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Sasquatch, like me.
55:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
55:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because it almost makes me think, I'm not saying this is the case or relevant at all.
55:26
[SPEAKER_00]: This is just a thought that popped in my head.
55:29
[SPEAKER_00]: It almost makes me think that
55:32
[SPEAKER_00]: those of first initial encounters with the scales and horns came from somebody ultra into
55:49
[SPEAKER_00]: religious beliefs.
55:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Almost like, almost like being so scared.
55:54
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, yeah.
55:55
[SPEAKER_00]: And then mentally putting like a demonic image onto it.
55:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
56:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Everything I can see, I can see that happening like you, because our memories are kind of wonky anyways.
56:08
[SPEAKER_00]: And especially when you go through trauma.
56:11
[SPEAKER_00]: So in my head.
56:14
[SPEAKER_00]: It would make sense that somebody would, like that's how their brain is trying to explain it to them, like you saw something fucked up and your, your, the knowledge that you have in your head is that of demons.
56:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, so maybe not saying that's exactly that's not what I'm not saying that's what happened.
56:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just, that's the thought that came to my head.
56:33
[SPEAKER_01]: We've learned anything from the governmental UFO drop we just had.
56:38
[SPEAKER_01]: It's that anything they don't understand, they think is demons.
56:41
[SPEAKER_01]: True.
56:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, anything with Elintin, she's that in perspective.
56:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Also
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[SPEAKER_01]: dive into the book because Sally had a bunch of her own encounters while investigating the lake worth monster like she she fed it some snacks one time she got her own footprints pulled like you're gonna have to yeah you're not to get the book to check that out bizarre choice to fetus snacks yeah yeah it's it's a good book he also goes into uh possible hoaxes because immediately people started coming out of the woodwork
57:17
[SPEAKER_01]: claiming that they were the tire truckers.
57:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, one dude was like, yeah, we rolled it down the hill.
57:23
[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't think it was going to be that big of a deal.
57:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Then this other like band of buddies were like, we created a giant slingshot and we slingshot of the tire off the hill.
57:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, see that and that's where it gets interesting because if you had one person come forward and be like, yo, it was me, I rolled the tire down the hill.
57:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't throw it and that's where it stopped.
57:47
[SPEAKER_00]: You got a hoax.
57:48
[SPEAKER_00]: You got a hoax.
57:48
[SPEAKER_00]: But the fact that multiple people are coming out and saying they're the hoaxers with different explanations is the how they pulled it off massive red flag.
57:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you can't even get their stories straight at this point.
58:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly, I don't think so.
58:03
[SPEAKER_00]: It makes you want like the only thing that I can think of is that these are just assholes trying to get their five minutes.
58:10
[SPEAKER_00]: And it would even be five, it'd be about 30 seconds.
58:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd say show me your giant slingshot.
58:17
[SPEAKER_01]: to spin that out there.
58:18
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, check out the book again, Lake Worth Monster, the true story of the Greer Island Goatman by Lyle Blackburn.
58:28
[SPEAKER_01]: It's got much more information than you hear here.
58:30
[SPEAKER_01]: This was just the basic crux of the encounters.
58:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, like I said, there's tons of photos in the book, there's tons of newspaper articles, which I love that shit.
58:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I love where he's got the actual newspaper articles when they came out from 69.
58:44
[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's definitely pick it up if you get the chance.
58:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, that's that's the crux of the case.
58:50
[SPEAKER_01]: That was good.
58:51
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the old fight and cryptid story.
58:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah,
58:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I do love them people.
58:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Kyle made a good point.
58:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I love them people.
58:58
[SPEAKER_01]: If I'll come by cryptid.
58:59
[SPEAKER_00]: They do, man, and for some reason, we try to square off with them.
59:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's because of it.
59:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
59:07
[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, well, I didn't hear a cryptid.
59:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I think of a biological creature.
59:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
59:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you said, biological creatures can be taken down.
59:15
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
59:16
[SPEAKER_01]: With barbecue chicken.
59:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
59:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
59:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Maddie, we go cryptidun and we have to keep that on tap.
59:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
59:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Remember when keep a statual full of it when we were supposed to we're supposed to go with Tony on the dogman and counter i offered to Put on a fully you did fledged pork chop gillysuit Don't the dogman
59:39
[SPEAKER_00]: And worst case we have stuff to grill later on.
59:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's true.
59:43
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a win-win.
59:44
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a win-win.
59:45
[SPEAKER_01]: When I get hungry, I get a little aggressive.
59:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I start shaking trucks and stuff.
59:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
59:50
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what's the best way to say she ate me is?
59:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Food.
59:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Hand me a bar with your chicken.
59:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Bar with your chicken.
59:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh.
59:57
[SPEAKER_00]: That's that.
59:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh.
59:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
59:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Check out the book.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for hanging out with us on this Monday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tune in next week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're more back into some UFOness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: a bizarre abduction encounter that is not talked about enough for the simple fact that it leads into the most well documented min and black case period.
1:00:24
[SPEAKER_01]: The alien abduction that started is often overlooked so you're going to want to the next week for that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for hanging out with us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And until we meet again, stay safe, stay weird.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you see a cryptid, fight it or feed it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how you win.