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All Nwords Matter Feat @BeingBlackIsGhetto (Part One) · So Shameless

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  Speaker 1: If you know what I'm saying, so so shameless, if
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, dude, so shameless, if you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying socialmous, so shameless, so so so stumless.
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  Speaker 2: If you know what I'm saying, so.
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  Speaker 1: Shameless, if you know what I'm saying, so shameless, if
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, so shameless, if you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, so shameous, it is all.
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  Speaker 3: Right, I gotta my own pod to shoot at six
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  Speaker 3: other than that.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so we go for Alan fat team. We
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  Speaker 2: take a break, We do another island fitteam.
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  Speaker 4: All right, break, get Starbucks to be good?
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  Speaker 2: Oh not not not a stuff. We just this is
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  Speaker 2: best time.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Has anybody told you you.
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  Speaker 3: Have the uberheat?
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  Speaker 4: They know Starbucks twenty minutes from here?
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  Speaker 2: Is there a Starbucks where you're at?
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  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 4: No, no, you think about I do be having.
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  Speaker 2: No bees have ridiculous. This is the ridiculous podcast.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what this is ridiculous. It's two names
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  Speaker 4: there Starbucks.
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  Speaker 3: I'm on New Kirk.
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  Speaker 4: There's one on.
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  Speaker 2: You're in Flatbush, as far as it's a Starbucks in
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  Speaker 2: flat Bush, like two one.
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  Speaker 4: On they knew. They knew as fuck, like the last
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  Speaker 4: five years.
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  Speaker 2: New why would they There's not even one here?
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  Speaker 4: Because there is one.
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  Speaker 2: There's one ten minutes away where Franklin's Franklin.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like there is one Franklin.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: All that is like nothing is There's no Starbucks like this,
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  Speaker 4: absolutely not. Yeah, but I'm always making the trip for
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  Speaker 4: some Starbucks. I'm always making aligning with your white folks,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I don't know where I am. I'm just
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  Speaker 4: gonna lean into whatever's happened.
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  Speaker 2: People that go to Starbucks.
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  Speaker 4: Why because it's good? What you mean?
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  Speaker 2: It's fucking coffee from your slave masters?
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  Speaker 4: Is the macha? Oh my god, I gotta finas it because.
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  Speaker 3: I get strawberry outside. I'm refresher nigga.
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  Speaker 4: From anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, you was in the in the field. Wow, I
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  Speaker 2: need to know what's the energy on today's show.
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  Speaker 3: I'm definitely field nigga for sure.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, Yellow, she's still aligning with ancestors.
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  Speaker 4: What is happening right now? He's trying to weed off
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  Speaker 4: the face right now, start drinking.
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  Speaker 2: Shout out to my guests, what's up, y'all? How y'all feeling.
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  Speaker 2: Shout out to my other guest, Dodge after you don't started.
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  Speaker 4: Trouble, you know, I think.
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  Speaker 2: Bede all month. It's like it's like I got to
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  Speaker 2: introduce how you been? What's your name? Where you from?
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  Speaker 2: What you got going on?
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  Speaker 3: Stand out for me?
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  Speaker 2: We have the podcast, very very notable podcast, Being Black
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  Speaker 2: is Ghetto in the building.
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  Speaker 3: Way this is in the building, No shame gang.
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  Speaker 2: They quiet as ship. They like, what the fuck is happening?
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  Speaker 2: Trauma is here? Looks like you just left the gym,
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  Speaker 2: just walked out Being Black as Ghetto? What is besides
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  Speaker 2: the name making it very obvious, what is the show about?
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  Speaker 3: Obviously it's about anything. I don't have no real direction
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  Speaker 3: for the show. I modeled after Joe Rogan. You could
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  Speaker 3: turn it.
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  Speaker 2: On a white man.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, listen, got a model success after success, just
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  Speaker 3: being honest.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I see what.
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  Speaker 3: Success?
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  Speaker 2: Who'd you vote for? Were you? January sixth?
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  Speaker 3: I didn't vote? Actually, there we go, but if I did,
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  Speaker 3: it probably wouldn't be the answry out here.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, it's the last, it's the last.
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  Speaker 4: Pack it up.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 4: It's the second time I came to work and not
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  Speaker 4: have you next to a motherfucking Republican.
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  Speaker 3: I'm thinking, I'm just explained, bro, just explains, don't explain it.
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  Speaker 4: Just leave it right there, leave it just.
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  Speaker 2: It's gotta licks in my defense.
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  Speaker 3: Oh god, I'm not a Republican actually, all right, I'm
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  Speaker 3: a lovely all right, But I just I just think
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  Speaker 3: that Kamala was underqualified.
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  Speaker 4: It's not her name. Anybody that don't fuck with black women,
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  Speaker 4: especially that black women for the last five years have
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  Speaker 4: not even tried to learn that lady's name. You know,
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  Speaker 4: that's not her name.
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  Speaker 3: Her name is Kamala Kamala, all right, Mamala Kamala's. I'm
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  Speaker 3: I've seen people say in different I don't care enough
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  Speaker 3: to do it. But I'm just saying, what's your name?
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  Speaker 2: Quick?
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  Speaker 4: Or Jay Jordan's? So if I called you Jordan instead
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  Speaker 4: of Jordan, isn't the same. I wouldn't care Jordan it is.
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  Speaker 2: You can't call them jordanash It's crazy. Are you happy
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  Speaker 2: with the state of the country right now?
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely not. I'm not happy with it at all.
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  Speaker 4: But when you think about it, if you voted for Trump,
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  Speaker 4: then you are like, you can't complain when people And.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I didn't and that's why I didn't vote,
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  Speaker 3: because niggas that was the first thing people wanted to say.
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  Speaker 3: They're like, oh, well, if you vote for you gotta
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  Speaker 3: eat you know, whatever comes with it for the next
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  Speaker 3: four years. So so I didn't vote because I wasn't
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  Speaker 3: I didn't think Kamala as saying I didn't think Kamala
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  Speaker 3: was a was a valid candidate.
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  Speaker 2: And whynot.
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  Speaker 3: I just think I just think that the Democratic Party
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  Speaker 3: rushed their their, uh, their candidacy. Obviously we all knew
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  Speaker 3: that fucking President Biden will see now y'all chose to
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  Speaker 3: keep running with this man, and then when he goes
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  Speaker 3: into the race, you're gonna throw a Kamala in as
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  Speaker 3: a substitute for what the last like eight months of
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  Speaker 3: the election or whatever case may be, whoever months you know,
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  Speaker 3: fact check me out, don't know, but I'm just saying
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  Speaker 3: it was a very rushed procedure. I'm not against Democrats.
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  Speaker 3: If they would have put anybody else under the sun
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  Speaker 3: to go to go against Trump, I probably would have
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  Speaker 3: voted Democrat. But it was just the way they rolled
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  Speaker 3: out their their candidacy just wasn't It wasn't viable to me.
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  Speaker 3: So I I tell people if I would have voted
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  Speaker 3: the Orange man, it is.
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  Speaker 4: So I can't stand.
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  Speaker 6: I got a question, so he said, it was the
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  Speaker 6: eight month rollout, But you would have voted for anybody else.
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  Speaker 3: Most likely, Yeah, because I don't know. I don't, I
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  Speaker 3: don't like, I don't. I didn't like. I didn't like
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  Speaker 3: her records as a prosecutor, and and and and uh
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  Speaker 3: in California. I was for the minimal research that I
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  Speaker 3: did do on her. I was just a low key
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  Speaker 3: was not jacking her, I'll be honest. But but but.
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  Speaker 4: All of the information that you have about Donald J.
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  Speaker 3: You would still be willing to vote for him, because
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  Speaker 3: it depends what you're voting for, what.
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  Speaker 2: You're voting for.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to do it today.
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  Speaker 2: Question he's a guest, yo, everybody look. His co host
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  Speaker 2: is like, but I'm the one that one is. So
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  Speaker 2: I got to flack the Starbucks.
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  Speaker 4: Stucks.
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  Speaker 3: I voted for very simple things, right. I think immigration
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  Speaker 3: in our country is a problem, So I'm taking I
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  Speaker 3: will take the candidate that is going to be harsher
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  Speaker 3: on immigration reinforcement. I also I got Gene with the note,
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  Speaker 3: the note, the note tax on overtime that was some
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  Speaker 3: bullshit because now that it's actually like played out low
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  Speaker 3: key and with niggas what it hyped up to be
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  Speaker 3: all right interesting. And then also I don't know, I
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  Speaker 3: can't say at the top of my head because I
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  Speaker 3: I I'm saying, but those are probably like the main
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  Speaker 3: two thousand.
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  Speaker 2: Not want to admit that you didn't want to vote
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  Speaker 2: for a woman.
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  Speaker 3: That's not the case. I'll vote for any I'll vote
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  Speaker 3: for a woman. I don't think she was a viable candidate.
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  Speaker 2: The vice president for four years, the vice president who
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  Speaker 2: spent most of the time before that in politics in
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  Speaker 2: the government, was not qualified. But the guy that was
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  Speaker 2: on television that is a pedophile, right, the dude, that
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  Speaker 2: celebrity of Prentice. You fired him, the one who did
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  Speaker 2: the Central Park five, who took out a whole ad
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  Speaker 2: in the newspaper to make sure that these innocent black
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  Speaker 2: men went to jail. You would have voted for him
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  Speaker 2: in New York, would have if you chose to vote,
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  Speaker 2: you would have voted for him.
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  Speaker 4: He said that already, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know because you know you know what it is as well.
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  Speaker 3: And this is why this will get me tight about
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  Speaker 3: you know, left leaning people. If you are proud of
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  Speaker 3: the Yeah, the same question that you asked me, right,
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  Speaker 3: you said, I am I proud of to say to
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  Speaker 3: the country in the past eight years, who have we
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  Speaker 3: been ran by? Actually longer than eight years, been twelve
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  Speaker 3: because you got school from Obama and now you got
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  Speaker 3: you got Biden. No, it was Obama than what we got. No, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: my bad yet, quick up, all right, let me clean
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  Speaker 3: it up. But for the vast majority of the last
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  Speaker 3: twenty years, it's been Democrats ran country and we are
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  Speaker 3: in a complete shit show. So off of that alone,
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  Speaker 3: take everything else out. That's why I keep telling people,
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  Speaker 3: not even for myself, because a lot of people wonder
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  Speaker 3: why people vote for Trump. If you are, if you've
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  Speaker 3: been proud of this country in the past, say yeah,
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  Speaker 3: between the Bonding administration and Biden administration. If you're not
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  Speaker 3: proud of that, then why would you not gonna just
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  Speaker 3: off the off of that alone, You're gonna vote for Republican.
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  Speaker 3: Some people are online literally saying, of the off the
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  Speaker 3: strength of the Democrats shipping up our country alone, they
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  Speaker 3: voted Republican.
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  Speaker 2: I understand.
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  Speaker 4: Wait, where are you from from?
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  Speaker 3: New York? What part Manhattan and West Yester year half
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  Speaker 3: my life was in Manhaggan and any other gold Street, downtown, downtown,
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  Speaker 3: financial district type shit.
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  Speaker 4: All right, so you're from financial district in west Chester. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: mm hmmm, interesting, I have nothing. I just wanted to know.
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  Speaker 2: No, that's cool, and I get I think he gets
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  Speaker 2: the inference as well. And that's why I didn't have
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  Speaker 2: an inference. Look what I said to understand it is
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  Speaker 2: because first of all, how young are you? MoMA man? Alright?
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  Speaker 2: So talking about somebody that was with uh ten years
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  Speaker 2: old when all of this started. Uh Obama coming in
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  Speaker 2: to me shook the work, shook the country the he did.
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  Speaker 2: I don't believe he had the house. I believe he
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  Speaker 2: only he didn't have it the first time, right, and
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  Speaker 2: so I believe that he faced a lot of opposition
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  Speaker 2: which made nothing move right first, Still, you have global
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  Speaker 2: politics at the same time happening where he's now the
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  Speaker 2: face of the western of our country and has to
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  Speaker 2: make certain decisions. So people are like blaming him for
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  Speaker 2: shit that he has to that he hasn't gotten done,
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  Speaker 2: decisions that he had to make to protect America. That's
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  Speaker 2: what I saw, right, And I'm the reason I called
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  Speaker 2: that how young you were is because when I was twenty,
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  Speaker 2: wasn't super and that back then I wasn't paying attention
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  Speaker 2: to politics the way y'all are now. I was not.
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  Speaker 2: I'm fifty now, so I'm able to look at certain
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  Speaker 2: ship from a more educated brain, an older brain, a
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  Speaker 2: more experienced brain. Yeah, nigga, that matters.
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  Speaker 4: No, I just find it. It's always funny to me
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  Speaker 4: how shocking people like people are shocked by your age.
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  Speaker 4: Fifty also not fifty y'all.
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  Speaker 2: So this is what I want to be talking about that,
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much, But I do want to make
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  Speaker 2: sure that I stay the point. And I'm getting old,
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  Speaker 2: so I started and forget and ship.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: I think that the illusion that nothing good happen during
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  Speaker 2: that time is something pushed by, like you said, the right.
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  Speaker 2: I think that is an illusion because for a year
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  Speaker 2: now we've had Trumpet office. They're now talking about repealing
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  Speaker 2: the fourteenth Amendment. The rovers wag shits go on, Voting
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  Speaker 2: Rights Act gone, Like my nigga. What the people who
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  Speaker 2: were on the left were fighting for all of that
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  Speaker 2: time with the idea that they they were playing fair.
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  Speaker 2: They knew that they had to go to the House,
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  Speaker 2: the Senate. They we gotta take this to them and
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  Speaker 2: be fair. We're not gonna jury rig the Supreme Court.
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  Speaker 2: We're not gonna jerry mander like all types of weird shit.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna put this on floor for people to vote, right,
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  Speaker 2: And what happened was they didn't get the plays. They
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  Speaker 2: played too fair. This motherfucker comes in, So you know what,
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  Speaker 2: fuck all that fair shit. I mean, we're gonna do
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  Speaker 2: what the white America, a white America wants and nobody's
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  Speaker 2: gonna stop us. And now you see what's happening, and
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  Speaker 2: like you said, Yo, I'm not happy with what's going on,
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  Speaker 2: and that's because I think he's been loading this up
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  Speaker 2: for eight years or longer.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's bigger than that, too, Right. You have
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  Speaker 4: to also understand the last ten years of whatever's happening
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  Speaker 4: in this country is directly attributed to Trump because he
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  Speaker 4: had his four. Then Biden came in and had four.
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  Speaker 4: As soon as Trump came in, he eradicated everything that
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  Speaker 4: Biden did. And now we're about to go back into
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  Speaker 4: like so, so it's bigger than just what we see
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  Speaker 4: on the surface. And as somebody that's ten years your senior,
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  Speaker 4: I will say that a Democrat run country for me,
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  Speaker 4: for children, it was actually a better country, like it
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  Speaker 4: really was. It wasn't the best country.
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  Speaker 2: It was not.
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  Speaker 4: It has not been the best, but it's been way better.
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  Speaker 2: Comparably laughing but compared right now than.
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  Speaker 4: To now, like we could do way you're twenty twenty six,
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  Speaker 4: twenty twenty six to two thousand and six, way better,
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  Speaker 4: twenty twenty six to twenty sixteen.
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  Speaker 3: Way better station with their community. And I don't want
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  Speaker 3: to say the things that's coming to my brain.
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  Speaker 2: I want you to say. I want you to. I
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  Speaker 2: love you.
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  Speaker 3: That's what we want you do you think so you're telling.
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  Speaker 2: Me this is gonna be good. So you're telling me that.
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  Speaker 3: I just want to make sure it's a clip before
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  Speaker 3: I say the next statement.
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  Speaker 4: No, No, you heard me, right, So say it? I said,
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  Speaker 4: I said, so say it.
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  Speaker 3: So you're four Democrats pushing sex changes for children?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 4: Or no sex changes for children?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Elaborate as in give.
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  Speaker 3: Energy, as in parents having or children having the ability
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  Speaker 3: to go walk into wherever they do, transitioning at at
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  Speaker 3: the age before eighteen.
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  Speaker 4: You're okay with that, absolutely, absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: That.
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  Speaker 4: I find it to be very funny. But I want
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  Speaker 4: to be very clear weeks away from June. I want
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  Speaker 4: to be very very very clear. Nobody can make somebody
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  Speaker 4: suck a dick that don't want to suck a dick.
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  Speaker 4: That's period. Nobody can make somebody want to be something
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  Speaker 4: that they already don't want to be. And to put
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  Speaker 4: just to add a caveat on top of that, nobody
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  Speaker 4: can wake up one day a male and say hey,
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  Speaker 4: I want to be a girl and they just walk
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  Speaker 4: into the doctor and it happens immediately, They go through therapy,
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  Speaker 4: they have to have like intense conversations with doctor. Like
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  Speaker 4: these things take years. It's not something that happens in
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  Speaker 4: a vacuum overnight. So if you're that committed and you
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  Speaker 4: went through the training and you went you spoke to
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  Speaker 4: the doctors, and you went to therapy, and you had
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  Speaker 4: the conversations that you want to have, and you decide
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  Speaker 4: that you want to make a choice about your body
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  Speaker 4: and your life, who the fuck am I to say
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  Speaker 4: anything about it?
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  Speaker 3: Because before the age of eighteen, you're not even fully
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  Speaker 3: developed in your brain even are letting somebody make that
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  Speaker 3: decision on whether even if they went through the proper channels,
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  Speaker 3: like you're saying, they want to spoke to therapists here, professionals,
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  Speaker 3: all these things before the age of eighteen, where your
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  Speaker 3: brain is not fully developed to make a life changing decision,
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  Speaker 3: you're jacking that.
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  Speaker 4: Let me ask you a question. Do you think having
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  Speaker 4: children is a life changing decision?
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  Speaker 7: Yes?
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  Speaker 5: Or no?
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  Speaker 4: Of course? Okay, So why do we and why are
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  Speaker 4: we okay with children having children if that's how you feel,
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  Speaker 4: Because you can have a child as soon as hold on,
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  Speaker 4: hold on, all right. At the end of the day,
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  Speaker 4: children can decide to have children because it's their body.
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  Speaker 4: If you get pregnant at thirteen and you choose to
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  Speaker 4: not abort, you are now a thirteen year old mother.
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  Speaker 4: So at the end of the day, people make decisions
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  Speaker 4: about their body and about their life before their prefrontal
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  Speaker 4: cortex is fully developed all the time. So we don't
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  Speaker 4: get to pick and choose because as long as it
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  Speaker 4: ain't chew, it don't matter. It's not you, it ain't me.
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  Speaker 4: Uh well, I don't want to like throw that out.
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  Speaker 4: It's not you, it's not me. So at the end
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  Speaker 4: of the day, it's not for us to decide on
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  Speaker 4: what somebody else should be able to do with their life.
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  Speaker 4: And their body. I don't give a fuck how old
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  Speaker 4: you are.
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  Speaker 3: You get to.
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  Speaker 2: Choose, all right, she wants to interject.
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  Speaker 4: So I respect that by a decision, we're gonna pay
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: that out there. I respect everybody because at the end
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: the day, like she said, if it's not you, it's
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: not your choice. But it's for me and my house.
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: If you're not changing nothing until you walk about my
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: house one and I hear you right, you're saying, oh,
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: at thirteen, you could go and be a mom. No,
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: you can't without my consent. If I'm the parent as
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: a thirteen year old, you need my consent for adopted,
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: do abortion, or to allow you to have it, because
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: if I put you out this house, you ain't got
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: nowhere to go.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: But you.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: You can't.
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: They still have to consent. You can't do shit. The
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: same way your thirteen year old can go to therapy
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: right now and say I don't want to disclose anything
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: that I talk to you about with my mother. That
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: therapist is going to abide by the rules of that
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: thirteen year old and not tell you shits.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: It depends what it depends.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: If it ain't murder, if it's a crime. In general,
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: they have to report it, yes, but I will say this,
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: like as far as the babies, that's that's a slipping slope.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: I'm being honest in respect to the LGBTQ. I A
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: to all the letters. I respect the community because it's
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: not my life, and I have family within the community.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: And at the end of the day, you're not doing
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: none of me. So I don't really care, like I
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: rock with everybody, like you're a person. I don't see
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: a gender, I don't see a prefer and I don't
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: see none that I see a person. So if you
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: if you Tom today and Brenda tomorrow, hot Tom, Brenda,
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: whatever you want to be called religion and all that
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: I believe in God, I don't care if you're Brenda today,
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: Tom tomorrow and a cat twenty minutes from that whatever.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: My thing is. If a lot of y'all were seeing
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: psychologists instead of sugar coat and stuff, it's a mental illness.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: Like one day you decide that you want to be
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: a man or you want to be a woman, and
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: a lot of de transitioning that's happening too, Like we
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: don't talk about that, like I follow this stuff, like
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: I actually do do the research. A lot of people
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: de transition. Do you know the mental health battles? And
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: I work in health it you don't understand amount of
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: suicide race that you see amongst this community. Why does
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: that exist because you have a mental health issue that
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: we sugarcoat because of money. And it's just like, oh,
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna let you change your gender. That's stupid, respectfully,
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: it's dumb. Yeah, we're allowing children again, going back to
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: the front two of development because we're going back to science.
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: Were an eight year old to tell you, oh, yeah,
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: I always knew since I was a baby that I
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: wanted to be a boy. You didn't know what week.
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: Here's my question to y'all. Right, at the end of
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: the day, somebody has to make these decisions. The decisions
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: are tough. There's a lot of nuance there. And to
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: your point, there could be mental health that played. There's
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: a lot of things that play. Ultimately, who would you
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: like to make the decisions for us and our family?
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Donald J.
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: Trump, that's who you like to make the decision for
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: your family about what options you have or would you
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: like where it's the Democrats aren't making decisions for you.
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: They mostly create laws in legislation where you are allowed
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: to have choices over your body.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: That's what the fight is about. It's not about pushing.
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: There's never been pushing uh, transgender operations have never been
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: pushing abortion. It's about the right to do it exactly.
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: So it's so if you're saying you'd either people not
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: have the right to do it, then that's saying that, Okay,
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: I'd rather Donald J. Trump have have the rights to
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: make these decisions and his administration that make the decisions
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: over my body and my family's body and things of
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: that nature, and these decisions.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: That's what I don't understand.
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: You don't have to be a transgender if you don't
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: want to Dodge's point, like, nobody's pushing nobody to do nothing.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: It's about who has the decision.
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: I honestly do think there is a push like there.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of persuasion in that industry.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: And this is somebody that works side by side, who
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: has family members like I'm in this. I definitely think
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: that there is a push. They're pushing it. They'll push
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: history black history out of textbooks, but then they want
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: you to know about transgender history.
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: Who pushing the same people that are pushing Black history
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: are the same people that are not pushing transgender So
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: I feel like.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: It's forced within the community, and I think it's forced
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: within our children. My thing is this, if you want
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: to become a transgender by all means, do you, because
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: if you could detransition and whatever else laiter down the line,
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: that is your business. I just don't think before a
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: person is fully before eighteen, before you're allowed to vote,
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: I don't think you should be should have the right
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: to make that decision your body. That's control over a
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: person's body.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: My question is who should make those decisions.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: I think it needs to be a law. You cannot
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: do that.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: See that's my problem. That's my problem this whole conversation.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: I really like the fact that I know J so
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: it's Jane. J I knew it was Jay, but I
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: was like, he's j all right, so Jayleen and j.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: I love the fact that you have your own brain
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: and your own thought process, right, y'all not controlled by
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: group group thing in a world where it largely is,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: I do. I can appreciate that, right. I agree with y'all.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Me personally, I don't really support a child having a
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: sex change or anything like that before but I don't
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: think it's my business, not enough to challenge a whole
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: legislature to make it a law. Me personally, I would
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I would tell my child they want to
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: do it, why don't we wait till you're eighteen? Why
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: don't we wait till you? Know what I mean to say.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: You can't even drink to your twenty one You know
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I wouldn't even want you having I
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: wouldn't want you obviously probably are going to have sex
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: before eighteen. You can hide it. At least you ain't
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: gonna curse in front of me until you're eighteen at least. Right,
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: My thing is, I think that they're.
• 22:28
  Speaker 7: So so.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: When when Jay mentioned it, he used that as like
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: the first thing as to why he would have voted
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: for Trump with all of the things we have going
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: on today. But that's what you're worried about hanging through.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: It's to me the arguments that I get from people
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: on the right to listen, which I like to listen to.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: Respectfully independent. So he because he didn't say he was
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: on the right, he didn't, right.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: It just it just sounds like it does it. I
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: don't understand it. I just don't be so my.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: That's all I wanted to say too, to expound on
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: It's about your quality of life, right, and what do
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: you look for in life. I would like my cost
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: of living to go down. I would like, obviously gas
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: prices to go down. I once again, like I stated,
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: I think the immigration problem in New York City is
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: a problem. I work for the city, just like I'm saying,
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: like we spoke about off Mike, like that's that is
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: a problem. So I can't speak for the rest of
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: the country. I'm talking about the things I specifically see
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: here are problems because of Democrats, sanctuary state, because we're
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: and we're busting people in I have a question, isn't
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: that the governess thing is a little bit of a
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: hugles another problem. I don't even started on her. She's
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: out of here, by the way, she'll never catch it.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Vote from voted for our last time, and I, oh
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: my god, I never regret to vote for somebody so
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: bad in my own Do.
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: You know that Obama is one of the toughest immigration
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: exactly in recent history. Hello, but he just didn't run
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: on that the same way Trump Trump runs on policies
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: to create fear and start promotions. But what he actually
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: implements does not help any of us, and it definitely
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: doesn't help his constituents that voted for him.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: I have a question. Born and bred New Yorker, Ellis
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: Island is a place, right, what is the purpose of
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: Ellis Island.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: It's supposed to be like a welcoming spot for immigrants.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: Right, So this is something that was created, especially in
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: New York City. This is a city that is a
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: melting pot and has always been a melting pot. So
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: what is the issue with immigration per se in your
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: thought process in New York City? When this is the
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: port of immigration, this is the house, the home, like
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: this is the most one of the most multicultural states,
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: well not even because whatever one of the most multicultural
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: cities in the entire country. What is the issue, like I.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Said, costs of living? Because you are driving these people
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: in for example, now the city has to house these people,
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: these these would you like to me refer to them
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: as just people? Whatever the case is, the people are
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: coming here, and we are and we are having to
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: spend government funding to house them, to put a close
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: on their back, food in her stomach, and put a
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: roof over their head. And now because of that, everything
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: else goes up because there's less available things.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: So be in the fact that ellis island, and this
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: is something that has been here for decades centuries. What
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: is the difference between now and then? Because this has
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: always been a thing. So why is it that you
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: think that, like, what is it about the new immigrants that.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: We literally Eric Adams said it himself. We are literally
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: driving millions of people in here because they thought it
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: was a game. Texas literally said, yo, immigration is a problem.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: And New York and California to be like, you know what,
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: we're sanctuary cities because we accept everybody, so we have
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: no problem taking them in until they really started coming in,
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: and then you realize that federal government wasn't funding New
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: York the way they should have for all these people
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: that y'all are driving in by the boat load.
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: And now stop the funding to New York.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Go talk to your federal government about that.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: But who is the head of the federal government, honey,
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: as of right now is Trump? And at that time
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: when Eric Adams was the mayor, who was it?
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Then it depends it was Trump. It was through both
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: of them.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Now, but it was.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: It was Trump. That's how it started.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: How long How long is Trump been in office for?
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: Right now? About all together?
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Or right this second, right this second?
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: Almost a year?
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: How long was how long was Mayor Adams in office?
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: Four years?
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Okay? Then, so who's administration was the majority under Trump?
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: No, you're not, because you don't understand that when a
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: president has policies, it surpasses their term. So when the
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: next president comes in, they are still in the effects
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: of the president prior. How it works. Okay, it is that.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: That's that's debatable. I get what you're saying. That's debatable.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know how we got here. I think that's
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: a great little, great little thing that we had. But
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: while we talk about the past, I really like to
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: bring things forward to the president. And it's funny that
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: I had this particular clip saved. Let me see if
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: I can give to it because Instagram be doing me dirty.
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: Let me see, Well, suddenly gives an opportunity to look
• 27:18
  Speaker 7: at those congressional districts again, gives us at chance at
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: all of them. If we'll give some of the previous
• 27:23
  Speaker 7: co workers and so give us. We'll see how that goes.
• 27:26
  Speaker 7: And certainly hope that the Supreme Court will overturn Amendment
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: fourteen and gives us a shot to revisit those what'spective,
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: I mean, other than misprotim everyone was relatively silent on
• 27:42
  Speaker 7: on thegoings long.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: What would you say, from.
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: Your perspective is the biggest misconception about what the bills
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: do and a message that you think to see? Okay, yeah,
• 27:49
  Speaker 7: that's a great question.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: I think you know.
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: The biggest misconception is the thing about it is people
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: tend to forget. I'll have one of this thing like
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: the cop before we actually Republican Party had that seat
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: and I guess in mobile.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: All right, Regardless of all that, this is literally about
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: the repeal of the fourteenth Amendment. Dodge, what is the
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: fourteenth Amendment?
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: Wow, nigga, what is the fourteenth Amendment?
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: You're the history major.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: I don't I can't recall right now off the top
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: of my head. Friend, I'm so sorry.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Do you know what? Off the top? Just not off
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: top because sometimes I confuse it with the thirteenth. So
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: let's not go. Fourteenth Amendment. It's best known for establishing
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: birthright citizenship, oh and guaranteeing all Americans equal protection and
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: due process under the law.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: I believe you're born here, you're an American's gonna hate me.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: It's okay, baby, your feelings, they're not gonna hate you.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: You got to say, honey, because I just think, let
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: me get this, let me say this before I say
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: what I'm going to say. These conversations are very nuanced.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Obviously there's a panelful of people here, so my opinion
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: is not going to be able to be fully stacked.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: All right, but I will say this, Obviously there's there's
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: good and bad to everything. We're not going to act
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: like people don't come here and literally use that exact
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: same amendment to create the quote unquote anchor babies. And
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: depending on who you are, some people see as a problem,
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: some people don't. But so that administration to kind of
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: take that away, and people's like, oh that once again
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: it's it's Trump versus immigrants. I don't necessarily disagree, like
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: that's so much like that's such a bad thing to
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: kind of uplift in my opinion, all right, we are
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: the only place that depending on like she said, you know,
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: she loves it being a melting pot here. Not everyone everyone.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: Agrees, you know, I hate that she's shit.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Everyone agreed. Everyone doesn't agree to the theories of anchor
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: babies and the way certain people come into our country.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: And I'll leave it at that.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, but did you hear the other part of it?
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: What was the other part? At least if I didn't
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: touch on it.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: I believe it's said guaranteeing all America can equal protection
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: and new process under the law. That is basically the
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: cornerstone of all the rights that we got from the
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Civil Rights Error, all of the things that the laws
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: that were built around the fourteenth Amendment. So while you're
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: worried about how immigrants that have babies here their babies
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: being able to stay here, the fourteenth Amendment being repealed
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: literally affects you. And it's funny because I had a
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: transgender woman on here recently and she cursed me out.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: She did, but she said, y'all don't realize they doing
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: it to us first to see if it'll go through
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: y'all niggas next.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: I just had a conversation with a transgender she told
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: me the same thing.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: If you don't if you understand right that statement in
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: itself and then apply it to the fourteenth Amendment being repealed,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: and we are literally saying sitting here saying, oh, you
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: know what, fuck them over there. I let it go
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: through because of those immigrant babies, but not realizing that
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: you in this, you're in the same thing, and you
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: can tell by the way that they're behaving they want you.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: You're just protected by this your hate or not even hate,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: not even hate. I'm sorry this thing. I don't want
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: to say to stay either, because I just think that
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: he doesn't believe that they deserve the same rights as
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: we do to this country. So that doesn't really come
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: with an emotional aggression. It's just like, yo, I don't
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: think that y'all should be here like I have the right.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: But you thinking that literally affects you if they repeal that,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: what do you think about that?
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's messed up, and that's what
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: I'm saying. So I feel like there's a lot of
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: nuances to politics. That's why me personally, I don't like
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: partaking it. I keep up with it because I feel
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: like as an adult, you should keep up with politics,
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: but I don't partake in either side because there's problems.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: You know that they are partaking. I'm sorry they are
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: the ones that want your head on a spike are
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: partaking that is true, and you not doing the research
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: but having a brand where you're speaking about it on
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: the little mics right here, and you're saying the things
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: that you're saying to people who also aren't doing the research.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Don't even know while you're thinking about those immigrant babies
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: that you're attached to it. You're black ass is attached
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: to it.
• 32:16
  Speaker 8: Your nigger ass, You fucking chimp, that's what they calling
• 32:21
  Speaker 8: us in twenty twenty six, but that they're calling us
• 32:23
  Speaker 8: the chimps in twenty twenty six, and they're.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Giving one point seven seven six billion dollars. And so, motherfucker,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: is that hate you? This is a joke, that hate
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: you just for existing. They've never heard your podcast, don't
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: know that you agree with them, don't know that you're
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: on their side. You walk in like, hey, I'm a
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: bow nigger.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying though. So if we're gonna
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: have this conversation, though, it depends how deep you want
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: to get, because honestly speaking, and we're talking about politics,
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: I'm saying, do you even feel like America apports the
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: black man?
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Period?
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: And for me personally, I don't think under any legislation
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: we are ever represent fairly representative of course, so I don't.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: I don't no matter what is past, I'm never gonna
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: view us as being equal in White America. That's just
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: a fact.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: We are a minority in this country. So when we're
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: talking about minorities versus majority, the minority is not going
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: to be over over represented because no matter what or
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: where we live or what we see when we walk
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: out of the house every day, we are literally the
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: minority in this country. So in what world does the
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: minority have equal or same level play and field power
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: as the majority That that mathematically doesn't make sense. Oh no, No,
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: So I'm readly like kind of stand back, just like
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: I really love the conversation, but I don't get too
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: defensive politics because I'm being honest. I don't really do
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: the research, and I didn't. I didn't vote because I
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: really didn't have full knowledge. I didn't agree with everything
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: with Trump. I did agree with some things that I
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: was hearing about Kamala, but I'm not that biased person
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: that's like I'm just gonna vote for her because she's
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: a warm Kamala because she's a woman because she's black,
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: even though I do want that in place like I
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: want to see a woman do I want to see
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: the black person do it, But like I also want
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: what's right. But I don't agree with the whole immigration
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: issues because I come from a family of immigrants. My heart,
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: my grandmother's a born immigrant. I be concerned about.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: I used to know it.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: I'm my grandma. Don't go outside today. They couldn't snatch you, okay,
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: and I might not get you back, and I'm never
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: okay with that. I feel like I understand this is
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: why I respect the politics conversation, but never getting too
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: too deep. But I do believe that there is some
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: goodness to have in some sort of control, which I
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: think I'll probably say that. This is where Jordan comes in,
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: where it's just like, yeah, he votes on Trump because
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: the control. You don't have to agree with everything Trump
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: is doing, but do you agree that in certain areas
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: some control. I think us as a people have an
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: issue with control, but some areas actually do need control,
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: like for instance, transgender. If you want to be transiended
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: about all means will do you. But I think that
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: in some areas some control for the betterment of the person,
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: because I don't want you, like i'd say, at sixteen
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: transitioning and then at nineteen you de transition in and
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: come to find out you have bipolar disorder and all
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: these underlying conditions that nobody knew how to actually like
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: properly diagnose. How often do you see and I work
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: in mental health, how often do you see people misdiagnose
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: because they're just trying to give you a diagnosis. So
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: I do believe that there is some level of control
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: that does need to happen. But I don't fully agree
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: with everything with Trump, like the immigration and stuff. No,
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: leave the people here, they're not doing it.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: I would argue with you on that, right, while I
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: hear you, and I think some of what you say
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: have merit, Right, I would then throw Jordan's claim of
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: case by case basis. I wouldn't do a sweeping generalization
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: against a whole community based off of those that do
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: have those issues, right, and say, well, y'all all need
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: to be controlled because of thinking this small margin of
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: people that exist within you, Right, I wouldn't, right, would
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: you like that? And that's what happens when the majority
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: looks at the minority and say, well, we don't understand
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: and there's some psychological issues over there, and put some
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: whole shit on us us.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: I understand that point, because it's like, you don't want
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: to if you put them all in a.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Box of white man controlling a woman's body.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: Facts, let's talk about that. I understand that. Honestly, this
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: is the same thing.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: It is we are the white men in that conversation,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: and that's what.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: But that's a clear example of why I once again
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: politics is complete. It's such a nuanced conversation. Obviously, even
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: in terms of an abortion thing, right, some people are
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: I'm for it and I'm against it. I have a
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: public Republicans in that stance as well, because, like they said,
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: they're like, yo, you're not You shouldn't be allowed to
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: aboil your child. That's crazy because if a woman was
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: sexually assaulted, then she should be able to afford that.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: And that's the only thing should be able to They
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: fought for it.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: They said, well, what I'm saying, everything is a case
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: by case scenario. And when we talk about immigration, I'm
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: strictly I'm speaking strictly for New York City. I can't
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: speak for nowhere else. I seen you all little chat
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: somebody like that's not before, little chap, and I'm like,
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: it's literally it literally does ride across to living at
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: least for us, right apartment apartment buildings are literally being
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: taken up because they're apartment buildings are literally being taken
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: up because we have nothing but immigrants literally in those buildings.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: Like I said, me and her first party, you respond
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: to these buildings every day. Those could be for regular
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: middle class and working class people, but yet we don't
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: get those opportunities because they're filled. They're buildings filled with migrants.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Jordan, let me let me get let me let me
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: get this one.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: I'm just being honest, bro. There's no reason, there's no
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: there's no reason why I work a regular middle class job.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: You can make eighty thousand dollars in New York City
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: right now, and you're struggling to get an apartment. That's
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: insane to me. But yet somebody's over there living for
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: thirty cents on the dollar because they just came here forever,
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: random country.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: That's not wild.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: I'm just asking a question.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: I think I agree with you. I understand that, But
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: what I want to know is this, When you say
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: case by case basis right, that's what you keep saying. Yes,
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: do you not realize that when they take all the
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: choices off the table, you can't go case by case.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: They were removing your ability to.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: Choose exactly, but you can't do it.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: That means you're literally your your ideology and you're and
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: you're they're like disagreeing with each other. It's a big
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: bad one does a sweeping say like you cannot do it?
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: There is no case by case. Do you understand what
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: I'm saying?
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: I understand, But that's why that once again, that's why
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: biggest problem in politics. I feel like between left and right,
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: it's I wish I just wish there was a grey
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: area politics. And that's my problem. Left does things extremely
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: to the left and right does things extremely to the right,
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: and both of them be wrong in that aspect because
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: when you are when you like say for the left
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: for example, right, if you are too lingient, bad things happen.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: For example, I don't because I wish I got research
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: before I did this episode. But the California law that
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: basically there was like if you steal or whatever the
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: case was, it was like some type of theft charge
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: that it was all charges like petty petty. Yeah, and
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: they're crime skyrocketed because of that and what But yet
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: California is what as the biggest blue state aside from US,
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: So it be little things like that because I'm like,
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: look at y'all letting people rob for I guess little
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: to nothing with no consequence, and look what happened. But
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: I also don't think that certain states like Florida, for example,
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: they're ready to throw the book at you for very
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: minimal things. Once again, the left and right just threw
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: things to the extreme. There needs to be a gray
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: area in politics. Both both sides be wrong in this area.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: So before I let you go, I'm sorry. But for
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: his point, like you were saying, he was like, they're
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: taking away your rights. Obviously I do not agree to
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: have my rights taken. But at the same time, too,
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: we cannot give just pure liberty to anybody. I do
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: believe freedom is freedom can't exist. World needs order.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Let Trump Trump had SA. Yeah, there are a couple
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: of points.
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: So I understand that you don't want to vote left
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: to right, but you say you're independent, you could vote independent.
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: There's a clear option that right for you. Right that's
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: one thing. The other thing, as far as like government overreach,
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: you talked about when it was the last time we've
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: been proud of this government. Things of that nature make
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: America great again, as a slogan that was ran on America,
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: and what people have looked for in America from overseas
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: is the freedoms and things of that nature. To Tahoe's point,
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: he's doing the exact opposite of what has made America
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: halfway decent, which is, you know, the lack of government overreach,
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: which is individual rights. All of these things are being
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: in fringe upon at an alarming rate, and their statistics
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: showing that we are no longer one of the top
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: ten freest countries in the world anymore because of the
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: government overreach of this administration. So you're asking for two
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: things that conflict each other, and that's one thing. And
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: to your point about, yeah, you don't have to vote
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: left and right, there's a lot of things that I
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: disagree on with the Democrats and Republicans, and I was
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: very close to voting independent in this last presidential election.
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: There are options there to vote. By not voting, you're
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: basically saying I'm not going to participate at all, but
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: I'm going to complain about everything.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: And to Tahoe's point, Republicans vote at a very high rate,
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: and they are rich and they are successful, and they
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: are controlling. There's a reason why they vote because they
• 41:19
  Speaker 6: know how important it is. And the last thing I'll
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: say is, at the very least, I hope you vote
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: on the local level because these things do matter and
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: they affect you.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Your daily life.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: Does obviously say in local I just can't vote for
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: the city to live in the city.
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: So well, I would say for you when you say
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: the left is extremely left and the right is extremely white,
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: and you there is no gray area. That is what
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: a centrist is. It's someone that is actually in the middle,
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: that is not extreme on one way or the other
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: and can see both sides, which is why I ask
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: previously if you were a centrist. But I think my
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: biggest question, and this is to both y' and j.
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: My biggest question is for you to have such dominant
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: thoughts about very very important things, why is it that
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: you choose not to do the research. There's nothing but
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: space and opportunity when we're talking about in politics, so
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: y'all have like very like strong stances, but have not
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: done the research. And my question is, like, why why.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: I've done the research? I just, like I said, you know,
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: we all do podcasting. You know how the internet be,
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: So they're gonna be like they want you to cite
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: the source. I'm not super verse while I excite it
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: like the back of my hand. Like if I, like
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: I said, give me an hour to get my shit together,
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: I could pull up all the facts behind what I'm saying.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: But I'm just not that verse to sighted like the
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: back of my hand. But everything I was speaking about,
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: like I said, I speak from experience and then yes,
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: from the research that I have done. That's why I
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: allot it. And once again, when we talk about a
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: nationwide thing, problems that someone might have in Missouri don't
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: affect me. So that's why it looks messed up when
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: people from New York will be like, well, we don't
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: really care to vote for this, and certain people in
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: other states will be like, well we care about this.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: Every state is different and damn near feels like it's
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: own country and every other bro like we're all different.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: Some things that affect y'all don't affect us. So that's
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: just that's my point on that.
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: What about you, I would just say, like I didn't
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: do the proper research more so because it's like at
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: the end of the day, I care, But on a
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: surface level, at the end of day, whatever you want
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: to do, Like I don't necessarily agree with the abortions
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: one hundred, but like, if that's what you want to do,
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: free will do you. Because at the end the day,
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: it don't affect me, you know what I mean. And
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: there's good and bad to everything, Like there's good, good
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: and bad in abortions. Like I feel like if you
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: laid down and you was you was taking it baby,
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: come out and handle your business with what came after that,
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But at the end of
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: the day, Also, if a woman was sexually assault it
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: should she be mandated to keep her her abuser's child. No,
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: if she wants to abort it, cool, I'm nobody to
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: say that you should now have to carry that. And
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: do I think that a man has the right to
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: tell me what to do with my body. I'm fifty
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: to fifty on that too, because I believe that if
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: I lay down with you and we have a baby together.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: I'm not just gonna go and make that abortion decision
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: without your approval because the reality is we both did that.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: So what if he wants the baby and I don't,
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: so you still have it. I've never been in that situation,
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: so I can't say what I would do, But sitting
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: here now, just thinking about it, I would want to
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: give the man the right to because I would want
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: him to respect myra. If I want my baby and
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: you don't, I'm gonna do what I want to do
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: because it's the who's the tiebreaker.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: I got a question from the panel too, though, Are
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: you guys like well traveled, Like, yeah, y'all travel and
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: stuff of course often, So what is your what is
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: your opinion then on like, what is your opinion on
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: America when you travel to other countries? When back, how
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: do you reflect? Like, what do you think about our
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: country when you start going to other places?
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: America is embarrassing. Oh, it's very embarrassing. It is embarrassing
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: to Okay, I don't know how to celebrate. He was like,
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: but I just think that I think that America as
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: a whole is very embarrassing. I think America is the
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: ghetto that the ghetto, third world corunchry that we try
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: to say that other places are as somebody that would
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: love to say that I'm proud to be an American.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: I also get a lot of second hand embarrassment from
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: a lot of things that go on in this country.
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: And this is not the country that the founding fathers
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: originally wanted. If you just look at the papers, if
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: you look at the doction, if you look at like
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: you actually read, it's this is not what it was
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: supposed to be. We're going into dictator oligarch kind of energy,
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: and it's it's just not fun.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: So I choose to say that that's why it's That's
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: why it's also hard for I have two points here. One,
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: it's kind of hard to talk about the Constitution with
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: us because at the end of the day, the Constitution
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: was written for white men. It was not men, it
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: was not rain for women, and it was not ratt
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: for any minority group, whether that's Spanish, Black, Asian, et cetera,
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: et cetera.
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's bigger than that now that we already
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: know that that's a fact, because we've used that same
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: Constitution to get us the rights that we have now.
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: Because we can sit here and say, thanks to the
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: Birth Birth Right Act right, because we've been here for
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: this long, we are full bred Americans, and now we
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: can use the same constitution to say that this is unconstitutional.
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: You cannot do this to Americans regardless of our race.
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: But once you start repealing these things bit by bit,
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: piece by piece, then what is the leg that we're
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: gonna have to stand on to even say that we're
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: full bred Americans. We can't use our constitution because they're
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: gonna say, well, you have to be here for certain generations,
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: or you have to be from this place, or do
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: you have your family lineage it come back from this colony,
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: or whatever the case may be. They can take it
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: as far as they want to take it, which is
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: why you cannot be one foot in and one foot
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: out when we're having like these real serious conversations about politics.
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: Even if it does not impact New York, if it
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: impacts other people in other places, it can definitely come
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: over here. We are part of the country, and I,
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: like I would like to move on from this we've
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: been talking about to forty five minutes. I'm gonna say
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: something that I don't want y'all to take personally because
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: it is not about y'all too at all. Jay, are
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: you sensitive because you sut' cy.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: I noticed a common theme with people who would vote
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: for Trump with people who didn't vote for Kamala who
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: choose not to vote. And this is going to sound insulting,
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: but I don't mean it that way. They didn't do
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: the research. They all go off of propaganda ship they
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: saw on some YouTube or shit that just sounds good
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: off of Twitter, you know, ship that aligns to whatever
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: trauma that they have with their life or dealing with people,
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: or dealing with, you know, people that disagree with them.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: It just seems the people who are passionate did the research.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: The people who actually have something to stand on, they
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: did the research. And we're like arguing with people that
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: are like, but heard about some ship. They don't even
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: really have no real documentation, like they haven't. It's just
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: off of emotion of their feelings and some ship they
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: just they don't like it. But it's a lot of
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: times bullshit, not what they don't like, Like say with Kamala,
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she was big with the weed. She's putting
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: families in jail and kids did get to go to people.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: It was like, Yo, did you actually do the research
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: on this?
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: Actually just had a career dad with a lawyer that
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: worked under Kamala and the things that she said was
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: actually horrendous about her to be somebody that don't like
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: somebody listen to my worst enemy, Right, I would take
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't take. I think the person that worked directly
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: under administration, yes, I will take. And she worked for
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: a top ten law firm in New York City. Yes,
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: I'm going to take her word if she was working
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: directly under this person.
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: Facts, So do you not working in close proximity and
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: work you are directly?
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: Trust me? You know me? I asked the questions.
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry the country. No, it's fine. You got like
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: what you said. I'm not offended by because the reality
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: is that's why I don't get into politics, because of
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: lack of knowledge, and I feel like I don't have
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: the right to argue. But I'm just staying in my opinion.
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: I don't agree on certain and I love that and
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: it's okay, Like when people have a difference of opinion,
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: I'm cool with it.
• 49:17
  Speaker 7: So be it.
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: Because at the end of the day, if you did
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: your research, you have a right to stand on it.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying that we have a difference of opinion.
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: That's why I like, like when I'm on the podcast
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: with him, people argue with me all the time, and
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: I'm like, at the end, am I really but her
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: over what you say?
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: No?
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: Because if that's like some people studying and it's just
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: like at the end of the day, if you want
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: to do certain things with your life, with your body,
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: with your whatever, but all means boo do you? Because
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: at the end, d you changing your sex? Don't do
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: nothing to me.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: I do think that though y'all got a really great audience, right,
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: I've seen this podcast, well, I've seen y'all before years ago.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: That means y'all have loyal supporters. There's a responsibility here, oh, absolutely,
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: regardless of whether you think there is or not. I
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: believe I love Spider Man. With great power comes great responsibility,
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: and that's what we have when we have these mics,
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: we're shooting these things out there and people are consuming them,
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: and I would think that you would at least make
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: sure you do the research before you speak on these things.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: And that's something that we've we've been held accountable before too,
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Like Yo, y'all talk about some sit y'all't even know
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So this is I'm talking
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: to myself as well.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: I'm talking to tell people. I say all the time. Though,
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: if you feel that I'm uneducated, the matter and come
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: on the podcast and we can talk about it. I'm
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: never I'm never shy of learning something new. Like if
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: you want to school me, I'm open to being schooled.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: This is the research. I remember. There was one time
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: I had a conversation, but my direct source for that
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: conversation came from a conversation with Chris Cuomo, and I
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: was like, I literally said, I say, yo, this is
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: where I got this information from, and I'm just talking
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: about it on the podcast. I though it was an
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: interesting topic. If I'm wrong, by all means, tell me
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: i'm wrong. I'm not. I'm not anybody that's closed minded.
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: Like I said, I believe in the gray areas of
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: a lot of things, whether that's left or right. Just
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: you got to make it make sense to me. That's
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: all I basically say. Make it makes sense.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: All right. Well, I had an intro that's so funny, right,
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: there was a white guy in uh some fucking state.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Definitely a red state. Definitely one of them states that's
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: doing the jerry man the jerry mandering right now. And
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: apparently he called a woman, uh, the N word. And
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: he's an older white guy. I want to say, seventy's
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: red face, you know, silver hair, red cheeks type dude.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: And I guess her man or somebody came to court
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: and confronted him, or I don't even think he was
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: her man. There was like a I think there was
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: like a whole thing about him calling her, and the
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: lawmakers or whatever they showed up. This is the audio
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: of them showing up. Let me see if it right here.
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: So you don't like to say, I.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: Bet you won't call in front of a black man
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: like that. You won't let me help you. You call
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: a black women were call me that?
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: Me?
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: Damn can do it, I swim thro God, don't think
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: you taste the ancestors, your real confident different side right
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: a head. Guarantee you didn't do it in front of me.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: Come come, I know you won't.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: Say it again, wordy in front of me?
• 52:16
  Speaker 8: Come and I give you'll taste everything in front of
• 52:18
  Speaker 8: access to say it say in front of me.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: I damn you to say it.
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: It's cornille X.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: But you'll learn it real well today. Say it. I
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: bet you won't say your word in my face. Say
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: you talk to black women like that about themselves. You
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: intimidate black women by themselves.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: But the black women, you're gonna open your damn mouse.
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: Damn you to singing.
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: That's how I come behind y'all face playing with you.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: That's that's the lady. She's from Texas, right, she went
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: a hat.
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, say something that might be a little problem.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: I was gonna ask. I was gonna ask.
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: So I don't agree with the word nigga in total,
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: but I know what, when the court, I know, I'm
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: not gonna piss you up like that. I promise I'm not.
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: I've been through count anything in a in a respectful way.
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: They're trying to like you're you're trying to demean me,
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: You're trying to like you being disrespectful. That's straight racism
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: when you use the word nigga. But let's be honest,
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: they're not the only ones that's doing it, you know
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: what I mean. Black people, I know, like look at
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: other black people like they not black. So it's just
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: like if it's not okay for the white man saying
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: it's not okay for you to say it. It's child
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: like I know other black people, like I work with
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: black people that think they're not black. They think were
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: not the same because they grew up in different areas
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: or they have certain privileges, or they don't agree like
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: some people really be like I'm not black, and like you,
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: I can always tell when they think they're not black
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: by the way they say nigga. They pronounced the ear
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: hard e r, and it's just like, it's not okay
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: for you either. But then it's also like, I'm not
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: going to walk around like nigga nigga nigga to you
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: because if I don't let that man say I'm not
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to disrespect you and say so. I
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: think again, this goes back to I'm not going to
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: call a control, i'ma call it structure. It goes back
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: to if it's not okay for them to say it,
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: let's not say it either. I shouldn't be talking to
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: you like that because that's what makes them feel comfortable.
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: How did you learn that word? Because we call each
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: other that word. So no, it's not okay because I
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: do it.
• 54:27
  Speaker 6: That's what's called deflection. Yes, because other people misuse the
• 54:36
  Speaker 6: word and use the word now it's okay for my
• 54:40
  Speaker 6: white male and no, no to misusing misreps. I'm not
• 54:45
  Speaker 6: saying that in this but that's the first thing that
• 54:48
  Speaker 6: you went to after that clip, and that's disturbing it.
• 54:51
  Speaker 6: That's the first response is to deflect to that, Oh,
• 54:55
  Speaker 6: nobody should be using the word or that's a separate conversation.
• 55:00
  Speaker 6: And that's what deflection means. It's a separate conversation. We
• 55:02
  Speaker 6: are here with this present conversation, in this present moment,
• 55:05
  Speaker 6: and you brought up something that's a different subject.
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: Only because it's like I don't agree with the term.
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: I don't agree with what the woman being called nigger.
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: It was a woman being called nigga, right, I don't
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: agree with it, But I'm also adding to I don't
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: agree with it period.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: Nigga okay, But.
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: Like in just in general, I just feel like it's
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: a derogatory term. And I feel like when you fix
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: your face to call somebody that, how much respect? Like
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: what are you really saying to the person? Like people
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: use it so loose, and I think that's why and
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: I'm speaking not on a political level, not on like
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: white versus black. I think that's why people are so
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: comfortable we're saying it because we as black people are
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: very comfortable. We're saying nigga and I'm cool, we'll call
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: you in Oh this nigga? Is this nigga? That it's
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: funny when it's like, oh, you're my nigga. But then
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: when I be like, yo, this bum nigga.
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: Excuse me.
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: But if a white person was to say that, you'd
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: be ready to throw they had.
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: They don't get the right to say that.
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: But I mean the same things that they mean. Some
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: of them they do something different. They be on straight
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: up racist and they think they trying to hang you.
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: That's what they really doing. I don't mean that, but
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: like when I'm disrespecting you, disrespect this disrespect you across
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: the board. So if I mean it as in you
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: low life and racist, it's the same thing. It's disrespect.
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: What gives them the right to say, what gives me
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: the right say it shouldn't be said at all.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're on the boat by yourself on this one.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna be alone man on this one. But
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: history behind what they meant and their actions with it,
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: just the entire thing. But Jake good you, why do
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: you disagree with.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: I don't even know where to start. I think one
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: on that video, if I got the context right, it
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: was basically that man was saying words to what get
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: a reaction or you're just saying on some.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: Race he said it to a woman.
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can tell you. I'm just having a problem
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: in general because there's a lot of white people verbally
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: attacking black people to get reactions out of them. I
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: don't know if you guys are familiar with the chu
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: to build their situation recently that that I don't even
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: want I'm not even going to say his name, but
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: I don't want to even shed light towards that direction.
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: But is a conversation need to be hacked? Like I said,
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of white people out there that he
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: is trying to degrade and say degenerate things to black people,
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: and they think they could get away with it, and
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: those be the responses they use. You call you, You
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: and your friends call each other N word? Why is
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: the problem? I call you the N word? There's once
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: again nuance is the subject of today. When me calling him, Yo,
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: this is my nigga. This is a term of endearment
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: you call him, We're not We don't have that relationship
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: for you to call me such things. So no, you're
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: not getting that off. And and I said, it's a
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: sensitive topic. Some people be like you know, they feel
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: like no black other people other than black people should
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: use NW word. That's a topic for another time. But
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: strictly white people are prohibited from using that word in
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: my book, don't even fix your lips to say in
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: my direction, I'm not your friend, I'm not your pal,
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: I'm not nothing. Don't even say no type of N
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: word on my way, bro, or you know, or just
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: know what come with it. You're not just saying that
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: as it. There's not a term of endearment for you.
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: Can I challenge on this?
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: What does nigga mean when you say it? What do
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: you mean? Because I even see the chat saying some things.
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: What does nigga mean when you say the word nigga?
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: What does it mean? A white person can't say it?
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: And we know why what does it mean when you
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: use it? Is it not a derogatory term?
• 58:20
  Speaker 7: Nah?
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: No nigga? So why a white person can't say it.
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: What do they mean when they say it? Oh, I
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: don't give a fuck about what white people. They can't
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: say it. That's not they say it. Look, anybody can
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: say whatever they want to say. Pause. Anybody can say
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: whatever they want to say. There are consequences and repercussions
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: to everything that comes out of your mouth. So if
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: you're willing to handle those consequences and reproduction and repercussions,
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: you can say it. Say it, say with your whole chest.
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: And if I snuff, you don't get mad at me
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: because this is what you decided to do. That's a choice.
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: Everybody makes choices. But when I'm talking to my people,
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: and I want to be very clear because I understand
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: where you're coming from, because I don't believe that all
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: skin folks kinfolks. But when I'm talking to my people,
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: the people that I deem a part of my world,
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: my community, or whatever the case may be, and I say, Yo,
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: what's up, my nigga, or we having a colloquial conversation
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: and we're using all of the aave and we're like,
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: we in it, we know what we're talking about. No,
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: you do not get to interject yourself into a moment
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: that was not curated for you. So I don't care
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: what white people do or how they do it, but
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: there is a very fine line of disrespect that I'm
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: willing to take in front of my face. And that's
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: just me. I understand that.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: So somebody was like nigga, they the ones that made
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: it so. White person made it to be derogatory. So
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: it's okay with me and you are disrespecting each other,
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: but when the next person come in. But if you
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: dispect right, if you find it no no, no no no.
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: If you deem certain things disrespectful, you can use You
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: can say the same thing with the word bitch. Right
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: if it's a group of girls and they can like yeah,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: bitch no d d da da da dah. That's something
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: different than somebody from the outside saying you bitch right,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: It's completely different. So if we can understand that, and
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: we can understand going back to your conversation, the nuance
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: of how you communicate things, the inflection in certain words,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: and what your intent is those are we can't pile
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: it on top of each other. I have a homegirl
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: that does not like the word bitch. She don't like
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: it playfully she don't like it jokingly, so for your
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: comfortability and so that you never think that I'm disrespecting you.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: I would never use it in conversation with you. So
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: if you feel that way about the word nigga and
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: me and you was cool, I would never use it
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: in turn and having conversation with you because I know
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: how you deem it. So I would say, Yo, what
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: up my nigga to him, him, him, Hey girl, how
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: you doing. I'm not gonna say it to you. So
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: it's all about being respectful for what people like and
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: what people don't like. So it's bigger than the word.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: It's about your personal preference and if if I care
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: enough about you to be able to quell my knee
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: jerk reaction to make you feel comfortable, Yeah, I agree,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: and I respect again the difference in opinion. I'm just
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: one of those type of people that sometimes I'm just
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: like I I'm gonna be real neutral because I don't
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: want you getting comfortable. I don't know that you're not black,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: I don't know nothing, but I don't want you getting
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: comfortable just saying nigga out the side of your face
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: because I know the type of reaction it's going to
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: have on me. And then I also know, like some
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: people when they talking, you could tell like you mean
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: not to degrade that person. You ain't saying like you
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: said it real funny, but you meant it in the
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: grade of way. So because I try to be mindful
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: of using the world, I'm not gonna act like I
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: never used it, but like I try to be mindful
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: because I'm just like, if I'm not mindful, you got
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: too comfortable, And now how I'm gonna check you about
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: something you said? When I let you get comfortable with it.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: It's very easy to check somebody because at the end
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: of the day, we change. But it's just it's weird
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: because it's like it's like switching up last minute, like
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: oh you is nigga, Yeah, you can't do that because
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: people change every day. I don't know what happened to
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: me between yesterday and today that I decided in my
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: personal life and in my personal space that I don't
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: want to do this anymore or I don't want to
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: speak like this anymore. And you, as a human and
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: as an American, you have the right to change your
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: mind about things. You have that freedom, So rocket say
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: whatever you have to say just be like, you know what,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: I don't know the way that you said that. Maybe
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: this conversation is maybe I'm emotional today, maybe I'm getting
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: a little touchy. I don't really like the way that
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: you say it. Like there's certain people the way that
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: they say black, it has like a deep inflection, and
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: it's like, why you say it so hard? Like I
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: feel like you're trying to be How about we don't
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: even do that. I'm a New Yorker, I'm from Brooklyn, Like,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: don't be like, oh yeah, black people. I don't like
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: the way you say it. It's giving racist undertone. So
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: let's just just not do that.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. For me, it's more historical context matters and the
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: idea that I would compare us to the people that
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: oppressed us. Yo. Man, I close my eyes right now
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: and think about them coming and stealing somebody and putting
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: a big ass, brass fucking lock around your neck and
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: you're attached to somebody that died two weeks ago on
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: a boat and you have the same chains on your
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: ankles digging into your bone. I think about them castrating
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: I think. I think about that ship. I think about
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: that ship, and they they say you should let that go.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: That was years ago. I don't care. It's the idea
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: that you thought that was good. The idea that that
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: the ship that y'all do January sixth, The idea that
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: the ship that y'all attach a noose to a nigga
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: neck and hang them by the tree, and y'all all outside.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: The idea that you will drag a nigga behind your
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: pickup truck till its head pop off and cheer when
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: she say nigga. To me, it's not the same as you, boy. Yeah,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: Like I'm and I got a family to think of.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: I think I got my mom's, I got my kids,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: I got a family to think of. So I'm never
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: gonna look at the context with her, him, him, you
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: saying that. To me, that's something we could talk about,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: argue about, we can disagree. Ain't nothing to talk about.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: Don't even play with me, blood, don't even play like that.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: I feel you you know what it is because I've seen,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: maybe because my own personal experiences of having black people.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: Think they not black, And to me, that's the Remember
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: you say case by case mental illness, those are things
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: that I can understand, all right, there's something with you,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: it's you. It is to talk about with the generalization
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: of generalization that I was talking about earlier. I can
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: do that with them, You understand what I'm saying. I
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: can't do that with us. I can say, okay, Yo,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: you walked out, you balked out. Yeah, me and you
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: ain't gonna play like that. I don't even like the
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: way you talk the people you hang out with food,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: you being Starbucks, love to convo and love to come
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: Roger here. Obviously, Yo, she can get a little hot.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: We talked about these things, right, It's all right, right,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: But one thing that I do want to say that
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: I think is very important is that we hear each
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: other and our differences. Right, Like, I don't really feel.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: We have the.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: We don't have enough people to throw away. We need
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: to be able to have these kinds of conversations. But
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: then I think I disagreeing because some of these Wayians
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: we got the.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: Way Yo, I've been saying the page uniform today, very confused.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: You said you was from the whole. You got on
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: Black Air Forces too.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: You got.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 4: Need to be able to have it crazy.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: This is what I mean.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: I know him personally, so it's just like I know
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: he rowdy, I know he got difference of opinion, but
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: I'm also not ashamed to state my difference, and I'm
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: not a shame or scared to argue back. But also,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: once this camera goes off, I'm gonna dap you up.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: You want, you know what, I'm sure it's all up,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: But some people don't know how to do that. So
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: I feel like you just gotta read the room. But
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: as far as like dismissing people and throwing people away,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: I don't care to do it.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: I just I'll say this. I think, like we stated earlier,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: I think everyone needs to do research because even you know,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: my parents a little older now, like getting your sixties
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: and shit, And I've had conversations in regards of politics
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: with my parents and they don't do no research. They're
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: die hard Democrats. So I was like, once again to
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: flip this whole conversation around. If the Democratic Party, say,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: were the people that want to strict people there, right,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: my parents will go vote when they they have no
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: clue because people of that age bracket, they just vote
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: for their side and they just jacket without doing any research.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: So I would say everyone needs to do research on
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: their political stances, whether that's left or right, Republican and Democrat.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: Just do the research because you never know. At the
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: end of the day, all these all politicians are low key,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: funny moving people, a lot of people taking money from Israel.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: That's the whole conversation. Run another time, and that's both
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: left there and right. There's a lot to talk about.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: Bro said, they don't call a little chat no more.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: That wasn't nice. That was.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: That was your little word.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: They wasn't even mean to you. They didn't even do that.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: I've seen them demolished people and you violated. That's not nice.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: We got another ten minutes here. I'm scared. I'm gonna
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: post this thing trigger warning for anybody the ladies out
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: there that have been doing some shit. Right, this is
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: about North Korea. Uh, there's a gentleman, I believe. I
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: think it's a gentleman. I wouldn't pay attention to himcause
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: she was speaking. It was a Japanese woman that a
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: North Korean woman that escaped over there and did an
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: interview about the treatment of women over there, and I
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: was like, yo, hm, we're talking about America. It's crazy
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: over there.
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  Speaker 7: Bro.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I watched a lot of that. Yeah, over there,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: I could not believe what the high right crazy water.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: Everybody out there crimes that you could be sentenced to
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: death for it is as little as so.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 5: In North Korea, every room has to have a portrait
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 5: of kings, and the inspector comes out of nowhere in
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 5: the middle of line and then touch the portraits. If
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 5: they see any dust, they say your oilth is not
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 5: high enough, and then you can get executings in the prison.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 7: Camp to be generation of your family, generations of If
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 7: the picture is dusty, you get executed.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and if your.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 5: House kit on fire. The first thing is not you
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 5: run with your family or your children or parents. You
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 5: have to protect the portraits of your life. Otherwise to
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 5: be generation gets punished. Even murderers, rapists North Carey don't exists.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 5: We don't even know what Rabi is. I mean they
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 5: have pleasures squad right. Every year they go around the country,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 5: pick up the virgin girls, bring them back to Kenya,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 5: make them or the satisfactory groups train them to become
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 5: sex machines.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: Every year they do that.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 5: So these officials, now, the guy who's in the second
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 5: power in North Korea is never to tear your hand.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: He has his own pleasure squad, and he takes the
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 5: entire kith out of this gurls. So when they kiss
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 5: him down there, he has more pleasure. So these things
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 5: is not a crime in North Korea. Like it Literally
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: when wemen walk down the guys then you and rape you,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 5: you cannot go to police.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 7: You got rape.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: This is your fault.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: So this country, I mean everyone escaped eaten by a
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 5: husband in North Korea, this is not a crime. But
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 5: if there's a newspaper there's a porture of Kim jongnan
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 5: by Kims, you didn't see the front page in the
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 5: backpay you ripped it by mistake. That's how you get executed.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 5: Who that is when we call crime in North Korea.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: I got a question. I got a question. I got
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: a question in this question, I gotta lord, I got
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: a question for Jordan's right now, A Jordan's.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: Here, you go.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: North Korean people want to flee North Korea and come
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: to New York because it's a sanctuary state. You got
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: an issue with that?
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: Or no proper channels?
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: What's the proper channel? Niggas is trying to I let
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: the fucking picture burn. These niggas is trying to hound
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: down me, my grandmother, my mother, and my kid. I
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: need to get here tomorrow. You you you're cool with that,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: or you like not send them back? What you're gonna do?
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: What are you gonna do?
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: No?
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: No, what you wanna do?
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: You know what my problem is also to.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 5: You?
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: You got to answer my question.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: Answer my question first, it's not my only question is
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: why do we act like America is just the only
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: country in the world. I didn't say that, but that's
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: what I want to add.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: You want to send them somewhere else you can go?
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: Why do you have to come here? Why you came
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: at liberty saying there is a problem, But I'm just
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: saying you liberty freedom question? Well, can you come here?
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: But I will say this, Why is it always America.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: Go to Canada, go to Australia, go to Europe, go
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: to Africa. There's so much places in the world. Why
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: does everyone want to land here? You have no other
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: need to land?
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: Liberty and justice for all. This is the country that
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: was set up for immigration. Hello, wait, stop the thirteen
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: colonies alone. These niggas came from Europe. They like, if
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: you're not an indigenous American, white or black. We all
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 4: came over here from somewhere else. So why is it
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: now that y'all, y'all generation, y'all like or the people
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: that think like you were like, nah, we're gonna have
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: to We're gonna have to button this up. It has
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: always been since seventeen seventy six, since before seventeen seventy
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 4: All them Pilgrims and all them niggas, they came from Europe.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 4: They came from England, France, Portugal, Italy, Spain. Why are
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: you thinking that you are the deciding factor of who
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: gets to leave tyranny in their own country and come
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: to the place that literally said bring me you're broken,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: bring me you're unwanted. All of these things are in
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: our like Bill of Wright's constitutions, and our whole text
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: is like, bring me all of the people that you
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: guys feel like they are not worth anything, and I'm
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: gonna make them a proud ass American. Why are you
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: trying to stop people that are fleeing from tyranny, fleeing
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: from situations like that some Allians that try to come
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: over here. We have people from Palestine, Iraq that literally
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: they're not leaving their countries because it's such an amazing
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: place that we just want to go to America. Niggas
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 4: is dying over there. I need to come somewhere that
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: I know that at least I'm going to be safe
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: and I'm going to be Okay you have a problem
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 4: with but sure he could come.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: Why because this is why. And thats all once again,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: everything's circumstantial, nuanced, and it's all circumstance material. You say
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: this thing, and these are all the good versions of
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: an immigrant coming here. Yes, we want somebody that's gonna
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: come here just wants to work a job, raise a family,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: and that's what we all want. But in hindsight, that's
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: literally not what happens. Then it depends some people do
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: come here for the right reasons, and also people come
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: here for the wrong reason, and that's all groups of people.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: Cubans came here, and as you know, they smuggle drugs
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: into our country the whole movie. I'm not saying all
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: of them. I'm just saying, let me finish my point,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: and we're gonna talk about all all walks of life. Right,
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: there's good Italian Americans out there, but there's also Italian
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: Americans that came to this country, and because they're poor,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: the American mafia was born, even when you call them
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: terms of Mexican Mexican cartels here Ms thirteen spreading in
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: the States because why we let immigrants come here and
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: they spread across the country. There's every group of people
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: literally has put poison into our country because we are
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: so inviting. So yes, I'm never gonna deny that people
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: should have the right to freedom and exercise that will.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: I'm never going to deny.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: Let me finish exact, wait, just let him, let him
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: let me finish.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: Like I said, I'm never going to do. I'm never
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: going to deny that people deserve liberty and everything that
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: comes with the pursuit of happiness. But we need to
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: stop ignoring the fact that people also come here for
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: all the wrong reasons. Especially I put point in Cuba,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: particularly because for deal Cashow literally said, at the point
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: in time when he did what he did, he don't
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: he did he dumped his prisons over here because he's like,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: you know what you guys want, so you guys want communication,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: will keep it so bad here have them all. And
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: he literally gave us the worst of the worst people.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: And because of America, we literally said, you know what,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: we'll take them all. We'll take them all.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: Let me ask you, let me ask you a question.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: First of all, there was something that you said that
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: was inaccurate because they did not leave Italy and Sicily
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 4: and then make their gangs here. They will gang members
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 4: in Italy and Sicily and they just continue what they
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: already were when they got here. That's how you have
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 4: the Five Families.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: That is that is looking guarantee, it is looking up. No,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: the very head of see's I wish I have as
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: because I can't say it on the top of my head.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: But with the quote unquote godfather of mafia stuff birth
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: to hear that family that he runs was not birth
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: from Sicily, Italy.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: No it was not.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: They did have I can't get it at the top
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: of my head. But like I said, his family was
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: birth here. It was not a Sicily born mafia that
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: was over there. Yes, I know the mafia existed in
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: Sicily and Italy, but what he birth from there is.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: I never said they did it comfort it. I never
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: said that his particular faction that spawned the Five Families
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: of New York was not from overseas. Do your googles
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: and do your research. I will.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: But one one other thing that I wanted to say. Damn,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: I lost it that fast because the way to tell
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: you the way that I love the mafia.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: The word they very much are. But I'm just letting
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, I know what I was going to say.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: Here's the thing, right, So you're talking about Mexican mafia,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 4: I mean MS thirteen. You're talking about the Five Families
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: and how they bring Cuba and they bring bad people
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: over here. Cool, whatever, But what about the white men
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: that are here that are just as bad, if not
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: worse than the immigrants. Because see, domestic terrorism is also
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: a problem in this country, and you have more of
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: an issue with Let's say a million Mexicans. All right,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: so I'm assumed. Let's say a million Mexicans come over
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 4: to America and two hundred of them are bad people.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: Who's more important the million or the two hundred.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 5: To you?
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, run back to me.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: Let's say a million Mexicans. They come to America in
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: search of a better life or whatever the case may be.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: And of that one million, two hundred of them are
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: horrible people. Two hundred of them are criminals, two hundred
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: of them are doing bad things in this What is
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 4: more important to you the million or the two hundred.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: H Like I said, I don't know. I don't want
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: to answer that.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 4: And the only reason why I asked this is because
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 4: people are people. My grandfather used to say all the time.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 4: The most unpredictable animal on planet, on the planet is man.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 4: That's it. We never know what human beings are going
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 4: to do. Human beings literally have done horrible things to
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 4: other human beings since we've been here. You could take
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: it back to the Bible. You can take it back
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: to Cain and Abel, like they was the third and
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: fourth niggas on the in the world according to the Bible,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 4: and one of them niggas murk the other one. It's
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 4: we're talking about Adam Eve Cain and Abel.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 4: You done wiped out half of the population. So we
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 4: not good people by nature innately. But I don't think
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 4: that it's okay to persecute the many for the few,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 4: because America Kens are just as fucked up as these
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 4: other people that we're talking about that really just want
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 4: to come here to work, that really just want to
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: come here to create a different life for their families
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 4: that don't want to have to fear being murdered for
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 4: things that we know that are minute.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: All right, Oh, that was the point I also wanted
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: to make. Have you ever seen that famous clip for
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: Muhammad Ali when he talks about the snakes entering the room?
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  Speaker 3: Are you guys familiar with it?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe not?
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  Speaker 3: So? Long story short, it's the same, basically the same constables.
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  Speaker 3: She said, she's kids. He was talking about it in
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  Speaker 3: terms of police Now. He was like, there's a thousand
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  Speaker 3: snakes outside your door, right, or say a hundred whatever.
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  Speaker 3: The number is, hundred stakes outside your door, and maybe
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  Speaker 3: forty of them is good.
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  Speaker 2: But how am I.
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  Speaker 3: Supposed to know if you was these snakes of bumble bees?
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  Speaker 3: Rightever the cases hundreds of them outside your door. Forty
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  Speaker 3: of them is good, But how am I supposed to know?
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  Speaker 3: Who are gonna be the good ones? Who's gonna be
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  Speaker 3: the bad one? So I'm not saying I don't want
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  Speaker 3: to open my door to the forty good ones, But
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  Speaker 3: at the end of the day, I can't tell who's
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  Speaker 3: the difference, So I'm gonna keep my door closed. That
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  Speaker 3: was me summing it up, like I said, if you
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  Speaker 3: guys can look it up, you know, if you want
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  Speaker 3: to see it for yourself. But that's my argument, like that,
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  Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying. It sounds inhumane or sounds like
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  Speaker 3: you're being mean when you say things like that, like, yo,
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  Speaker 3: out of a million people, only two hundred of them
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  Speaker 3: is bad. But I'm like, we can't tell and we
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  Speaker 3: will never know, so therefore it may sound mean, But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: keep all a million of them out because we don't
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  Speaker 3: know who we're bringing in. And that's why they get
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  Speaker 3: the proper channel set up in place, which I never
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  Speaker 3: agree to, because at the end of the day, I
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  Speaker 3: know the immigration system is flawed and that is why
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  Speaker 3: people go through other channels to come into our country,
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  Speaker 3: and that is one thing this administration and future administrations
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  Speaker 3: need to work on so people could come here legally.
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  Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, until that is,
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  Speaker 3: until that infrastructure is properly in place, Yes, keep people
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  Speaker 3: out because you don't know who we're bringing in. We're
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  Speaker 3: not doing proper site I mean, we're not sourcing people
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  Speaker 3: correctly on how they're coming in the country. And also
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  Speaker 3: the fact check Lucky Luciana, I got to look it
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  Speaker 3: up real quick. That was the first person over here
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  Speaker 3: that's small on the five Families, watch every Netflix dot
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  Speaker 3: on it and all that funny stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Let me just let me just for one we have
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  Speaker 2: to go to episode two, right, We have to take
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  Speaker 2: a break. We have to end this episode right now.
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  Speaker 2: But beforehand, I just want to get my little conclusion
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  Speaker 2: wrap up thing for one. Jay, with respect to your
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  Speaker 2: opinion on things and everything, you sound like a white man. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: you sound like a white man because that's what they
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  Speaker 2: talk about with black people. All of the points that
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  Speaker 2: you make. Hello, but you're doing that right now. We
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  Speaker 2: can end the show where you could do that, because
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  Speaker 2: with everything that you just said, you're you're talking about Mexicans,
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  Speaker 2: You're talking about all of these other groups of people. Cubans, bro.
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  Speaker 2: You know you black right, yes, and this country is
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  Speaker 2: yes exactly when you're speaking, when you're speaking on these things,
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  Speaker 2: these are the same things that they're talking about with us.
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  Speaker 2: You are aligning yourselves with people that do not that
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  Speaker 2: that that you're going one against your own values. You're
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  Speaker 2: literally going against your own interests with your thought processes.
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  Speaker 2: And it's like it's black and white and red and green.
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  Speaker 2: Chet yea, you see what I say. We see you see,
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  Speaker 2: And yes, to Dodge's point, I think this is what
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  Speaker 2: she was showing you. I looked this up. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: sure if this is actual truth, because Google could tell
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  Speaker 2: you one thing and then you actually a different way
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  Speaker 2: and tell you some other shit. I don't know, but
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  Speaker 2: it says, yes, the Italian mafia was heavily tied to Italy.
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  Speaker 2: It was established by Italian immigrants in the late nineteenth
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  Speaker 2: and early twentieth centuries, heavily influenced by the koson Nostra
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  Speaker 2: in Sicily and other organized crime groups in mainland Italy. However,
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  Speaker 2: later on in that the American Evolution, it says, while
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  Speaker 2: the roots were Italian, the American mafia eventually developed into
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  Speaker 2: an independent Pan Italian organization. Blah blah, blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Said I said the mafia was in Sicily and Italy.
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  Speaker 3: I never said they weren't. But the American faction started
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  Speaker 3: from Lucky Luciano. The Five Families of New York started
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  Speaker 3: from that individual. He didn't come here already being a mobster.
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  Speaker 3: He became it and started all of it from here.
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  Speaker 3: So you over there reading and not interpreting what you
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  Speaker 3: read in and I don't know what, but.
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  Speaker 4: The fact of the matter is he was an immigrant.
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  Speaker 4: He was from Sicily. LaCOSA and Nostra had ties to
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  Speaker 4: And the reason why they were even allowed to have
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  Speaker 4: the five families here is because they had to get
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  Speaker 4: permission from Sicily, from Italy. That is how it got
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  Speaker 4: here in the first place. And the point was that
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  Speaker 4: it did not originate here. They bought it over here.
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  Speaker 4: The everything about it, everything about their rules, everything about
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  Speaker 4: everything that they wanted to do, it came from Sicily.
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• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: They're on YouTube doing their damn thing.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 4: They don't have a little chat yet, not a little chat.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: I don't have a little chat yet. But we will
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: be back on Thursday for part two. Y'all already know.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: I'm interested to see where this goes. With the whole
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: You know, we got a bunch of men versus winning content.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: I want to see what he about to do with
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  Speaker 2: this so shameless