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When "no big deal" is fatal | HBR Talk 259 · Honey Badger Radio

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Hello, and welcome to HBr Talk two fifty nine when No Big Deal Is
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Fatal. I'm your host, Hannah Wallen here with the personification of perceptivity,
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Mike Stevenson and Badger in Chief Alison Teeman. Lauren is unable to be here
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tonight, so we're going to continue last week's article next week when she returns.
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Tonight, we're going to be discussing an article on a big topic with
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widespread impact which feminists have spent years minimizing. And I have um put a
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link to that article in the low bar really quick. I need to put
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Mike in a picture too, because I didn't do that before the show.
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So let's there is Mike, and where is Mike's chair? We got we
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gotta drive by badgering. Well, you gotta be careful, you know y,
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Like that's that's you could be subject to arrest for that, Like like
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I know a guy that was arrested for a drive by greeting ones. So
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we we've talked about that before. But and he's on topic because that was
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a false allegation. It never happened, and it was also under a false
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dot Com in the dropdown menu at the top of the page. So whenn't
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we discuss these issues? The most feminists will answer with the same kind of
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tired, worn out platitudes. Right, it's rare, so it doesn't matter.
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If he has nothing to hide, he has nothing to fear. It's
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not harmful to him, so it's no big deal. When you do consider
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driving a teenager to suicide harmful enough to take it seriously. Oh wait,
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feminists who want guys to be totally stoic about false allegations tell us that the
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media or the male suicide is caused by too much mail stoicism as a result
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of social pressure known as toxic masculinity, largely from media. You know,
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it doesn't have anything to do with them telling men to shut up about their
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issues or anything. If there's any any justice in the cosmos, there has
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to be a level, a layer of hell, a level of hell for
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people who tell boys that they can learn from a false allegation, that's a
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learning opportunity. And then say that boys who embrace stoicism, which is basically
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just relying on yourself to overcome the negative things that happen to you, are
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toxically masculine. You know, to condemn what you insist men show. It's
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just a level of perfidity. That's that's profound. Yeah, it is.
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It's it's trusting, and you might you might ask yourself, why is it
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only in recent years that that we're hearing about so many of these cases of
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rapes in schools? And you may say, well, the old tired feminist
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excuse would be, well, boys have been raping girls in schools for centuries,
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or at least for as long as there have been boys and girls in
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the same schools, and it's only recently that the patriarchy has been overcome to
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the point where we could even bring any of them to action. And then
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you may wonder, well, is that the case? Or have boys been
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falsely accused of raping girls for a long time and they've been going on to
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commit suicide and we've just been saying, well, isn't it weird how many
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so many students commit suicide at such a young state in their life, And
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it's never made headline stories such as this until recently, because there have been
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the likes of us going now and there's been independent journalism looking into it.
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Not that the Daily Mail as independent journalism, or which have a news new
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Jersey outlet. I got this stuff across, but yeah, honestly, nobody
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knows. We wouldn't be hearing about this. They wouldn't be reporting on this.
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We wouldn't be hearing about this if it was suicide that ended with the
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suicide right the family suing The headline top seventy six thousand dollars a year.
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New Jersey Boarding school admits Moore should have been done to stop bullying of seventeen
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year old boy seventeen who took his own life after being falsely accused of rape
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for a year by cruel peers. That's that's followed up by several bullet points.
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I don't know if the Yeah, it's not where the lawsuit is mentioned,
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but I saw this lawsuit mentioned, and this was mentioned on Reddit in
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the men's rights subway at it, and yeah, it's not in the bullet
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points. But the bullet points explain that basically explain the story. Jack Reid,
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seventeen student at Lawrenceville School in New Jersey, took his own life after
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being bullied by other students. A year after his death, a school statement
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recognizes it took a year. Guys, the failure of the school to protect
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Jack, noting how an action by teaching staff contributed to his death. School
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is committed to taking corrective actions, including appointing a new dean who will be
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responsible with for dealing with mental health issues. And if you are having thoughts
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of suicide, it gives suicide hotline and a website to go to. So
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that's caller text. And yeah, and it's speaking of suicide dot com.
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Is there a number you control for being falsely accused of rape? Like,
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so we can cut off this suicide thing at the bus Well, yeah,
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that doesn't matter. Now it uses the word bullying but doesn't describe the allegation
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in the bullet points. It's covered under bullying. And this is the first
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time I've seen false allegations referred to in this way um in a in a
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non men's rights activist publication. And I don't know if they um admitted this
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on purpose or not, But I mean, bullying is how you describe abuse
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when it's done by kids, underage kids. Right, That's that's just it.
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It's it's abuse. But we don't like to accuse kids harshly, so
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we use the word bullying instead. Right, So you think we can pull
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down the term abuse to children, But in many adult workplaces it's gone the
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other way. The the the the the childish term bullying has been pulled up
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into it. And I've worked for the government. Yeah, have bullets they
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have bulletins about no bullying in the workplace among adults like ranging from twenty to
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sixty. But no bullying in the workplace is so pathetic. The difference is
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if a group of kids um beats on somebody until they commit suicide, whether
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it's physical or verbal beating on somebody until they commit suicide, they call that
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bullying. If you hear bullying among a group of adults, a lot of
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times, the complaints are petty and or or not even legitimate, right,
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um, Like they might call you bossy if you ask for information you need
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in order to correctly do the paperwork that's required for your job. Like I've
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been through that. That's that's bulleting to an adult. And it's usually when
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what is an allegation? What is it that this teacher did that they're apologizing
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for? So here here we go, all right, And at least New
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Jersey Boarding School has admitted that more should have been done after a student took
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his own life in his dorm room following a year of bullying by his peers.
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Jack Read, seventeen attended the Lawrence School between Trenton and Princeton, where
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tuition is seventy six thousand dollars a year. That is, houses in Dayton
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go for less than that. Right. In fact, the average housing price
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in Dayton, unless you get into the wealthy parts of the suburbs, is
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less than that. He died on April thirtieth, twenty twenty two, but
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in the twelve months leading up to his death, he had become a victim
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of a vicious bullying campaign that consisted of cruel and malicious rumors that labeled him
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as a campus rapist. The rumors were made up by fellow students and were
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said to Jack both in person and posted anonymously online, thereby spreading the story
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beyond the campus walls. During a secret stand a gift exchange among these classmates,
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Jack was given a rape whistle together with a book about how to make
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friends. And you can see this. This is a picture. Um,
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well, it's awfully big in the screen. Here. Let me see if
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I can shrink this down momentarily so that come on, there we go.
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I have to wonder how you can tell the difference between a rape whistle and
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an ordinary whistle unless it's served in one of those plastic packets. Yeah,
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natural like texts saying rape whistle from They make these whistles and they're extremely loud.
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They have a really high pitched like the kind of whistle that you get
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on TV when somebody sticks their two fingers in their mouths and whistles like that.
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Or in real life there are people that will put their tongue on the
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roof of their else between their two front teeth if they got a good little
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space in there, and they'll whistle, and it's really high pitched like that,
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different from a referee whistle, which in and of itself is pretty loud.
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Um. Once we got to the age where we were allowed to wander
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around the neighborhood farther from home than the sound of mom and dad's voice could
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could carry to call us home whistle code? Are we supposed to recognize these
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various different bird calls like yeah, this whistle means it? Right? Can
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you not just shout rape? Would that would not be simpler? See what
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I think is, if you really want women to feel safe, you have
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them carry an airhorn. Carry an airhorn in your bag, you know,
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your purse. For me, i'd have to get a little tiny one and
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stick in my pocket. And if somebody tries to attack you, you shove
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the airhorn in their face. Everybody that knows how loud these things are,
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knows where I'm going with this, and you set it off and they will
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just be so startled and slightly deafened for the moment did you get a chance
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to run away? And you'll have to worry about it. But it's it's
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it's both. It's both. Um. As soon as you stick an airhorn
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in somebody's face and set it off, they're gonna feel like you just raped
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the fuck out of their ears, um, and and their face. But
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uh, but yeah, so I gotta bring the size of the picture back
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here because I can't read the text at that size because I'm old. But
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um, in any case, this, this uh young man is obviously just
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a regular guy. He just looks like a regular guy. UM. Probably
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a preppy. I mean, I I bet everybody that goes at school is
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a preppy. UM. For people outside the eighties in the United States,
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a preppy was somebody who was kind of like a nerd, but they were
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preparing specifically to go to college. UM, so they weren't really a nerd
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on purpose. Um. They were more career oriented and so PREPPI was short
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for college student, and you could major in college prep at some schools.
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Other schools didn't have majors. But but this young man just looks like,
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you know, UM, a kid that would have a job and maybe be
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involved in some athletic team, be probably on some academic team as well,
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like if you had UM any kind of quiz team or in a you know,
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any kind of club related to academic ideas, like we had UM for
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for kids that were studying foreign languages with the International club. You know,
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kid would be involved in that kind of stuff. Just ordinary kid. Not
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not like the kid that the people look at and say, oh, this
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is going to be an insult. He's creepy, he looks bad, he's
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got greasy hair or pimples or bad facial features or whatever. No, the
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guy that got falsoly accused was a regular, average, ordinary guy, any
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guy, your average Joe. Aside from the fact that he was attending a
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very expensive school, which means obviously coming from an amount of money didn't stop
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him from facing this either. He would be considered privileged, and he still
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got accused falsely accused. Yeah. We often say at homeschool your children because
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it's got to be better than states school. And from that we leave out
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the private schools because we assume those will be any better. But yeah,
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no, not necessarily. Those are getting just as susceptible. You can,
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you can, you can pay out the nose for your child's education and still
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get this kind of treatment. There are still girls there. What did the
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teacher do? Like, um, what a teacher was involved, which is
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what made them, um apologize. Incidentally, if this has been a situation
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with a girl, there would have been wide, worldwide protests. Yeah.
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Yeah, um, well we'll get on. Although the staff were made aware
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of the bullying, the school has now admitted why on earth is it's not
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showing Okay, no, they just have an extra word in there. The
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school has now admitted an extraordinary make an extraordinary mission of failure in the anniversary
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on the anniversary of Jack's death, that they didn't proof read that very well.
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Sorry, so the school basically on the anniversary of his death, they
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have admitted that they failed him extraordinarily. There were steps that the school,
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in hindsight, should have taken, but did not, the school wrote in
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a lengthy statement. Most damning of all is the fact that the school did
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not make public, or did not make a public or private statement that it
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had, in fact investigated the rape and found the rumors about Jack and the
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entire story to be completely untrue. So here's this boy who was going through
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this profound situation of repeated, in his face reiteration of this false allegation,
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and being ribbed around this false allegation, being bullied around this false allegation,
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and this school had somebody investigate it, and I would imagine that's the teacher
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that's mentioned. School had somebody investigate it, found it to be unfounded,
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did not tell him that he was exonerated. Neither Jack nor his parents were
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ever told that he had been exonerated over the claims, did not tell the
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students that he was exonerated, did nothing to stop the bullying. The school's
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officials have now admitted that they were aware of the bullying, but fell short
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in their obligation to protect him. So when people tell you that feminism is
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harmless, remind them feminists are the ones that promote the myth that false allegations
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are harmless, that if a person experiences false allegations, um that that he
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has as he has nothing to hide, he has nothing to fear, and
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um he has, there's no harm done, you know, he has,
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he didn't suffer anything, That only real victims of real sexual assault are suffering,
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and that somehow, if his suffering is alleviated, that harms them,
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right, which it doesn't. But that's the that's the allegation that we get
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from feminists, that men and boys who complain about false allegations are attacking real
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victims over something that does zero harm to them. And this is what it
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takes for all the victim to be more recognized than the false accuser. He
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has to actually die by his own hand. Everyone remembers Mattress girl, I
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mean, we don't remember her name, but we don't remember the name of
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of the the young man she victimized. Everyone remembers the Duke Lacrosse case and
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the case of the Rolling Stone accusation. All of these were confirmed to be
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false, but but no one ever remembers the victims of these accusations, who
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were real young men who whose lives were changed forever. I hope hopefully they
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got over it by now, because, like I say, none of us
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remember their names, and I guess we can be grateful that we don't remember
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the names of the perpetrators either, except the smear merchant media conglomerates that that
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made these accusations nationally public in the first place without really recanting it. So
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the damage is already done. The atmosphere is tainted. What really, what
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I find remarkable about this is imagine if this was a girl and they had
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investigated a rape, Because the funny thing is is that false rape accusations have
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a lot of the same post like trauma symptoms as rape, the difficulty trusting,
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the difficulty having intimate relationships, the mental health issues. There's another thing
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I want to point out about the mental health in this case, which is
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absurd. But imagine if it had been a girl who had been raped and
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they had investigated, found out that her allegation was true, knew who had
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done it. Let's say it was another girl, because it's just not believable
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that they do it. If it was a boy and they just hushed up
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everything until she killed herself. This school would not exist right now if that
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would have been ensued into oblivion. If that happened, there would be a
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federal investigation. Because yes, Title nine has been updated over the over the
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years many years by the Department of Education to include certain requirements, and among
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them is the Clariact where they have to record what they are doing in terms
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of investigations into such things. And also they have to have like they would
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have to have a tribunal. They would have to have an outcome, right,
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they would have if somebody came to the school with an allegation like that
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and they investigated it, and they would have to take action on the outcome
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of that tribunal. If there is an allegation that they investigate that's being used
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for bullying and which which again is just code for abuse when kids do it
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and they investigate that and they find nothing, there's there's no allegation or no
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validity to the allegation. They're not required to take any action against the accuser,
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but if the accuser accused is guilty of something, they are required to
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take action against the accused. That's the way Title nine is written, or
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not Title nine, but the policy that the federal government has in place in
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regarded title nine. That's the way it's written. So and I want to
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point out the officials that fail to do anything, did not take this voice
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situation seriously because they have heard over and over again. They've been trained over
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and over again that sexual violence is very serious, but that allegations of sexual
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violence are not, that the experience of sexual violence is very serious, but
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that the experience of being accused is not, and that they should take heavy
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actions in response to allegations. That they should make being accused a major threat
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to the accused, but they should not show any compassion to the accused as
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if he is facing a major threat. Right, that is why they did
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not take this boy's situation seriously. And that is a feminist narrative that is
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um in place in official capacity in its institution. Institution, so that this
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was an activist institution of this, No, no, this this the atmosphere
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at the campus. I was just reading some commentary by other another. This
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is a parent who didn't didn't send their kids to this. That the the
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atmosphere at the campus was very hard and at activistic, So like activist,
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so it's likely that this was this may be everywhere as well. But I'm
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saying that this is probably a feminist itself, a feminist campus or a feminist
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r camp, it might be. But any public school, any university,
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and most most private schools are going to have this problem as well. This
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is this is one of the things. And I guess the way I'm going
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to put it is this. If you go to university in the United States
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to become a school teacher, all right, you're going to get certification for
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your states. You're gonna want to go to a university in your state for
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this. But in every state of the Union, gender studies has expanded into
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interdisciplinary studies, and interdisciplinary studies has been branched out like a little tree,
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like a fractal, into every little area that it can possibly fit into.
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So when you take business administration, you get gender studies through interdisciplinary studies.
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In terms of anything to do with human resources, when you take psychology,
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you get a shitload of it. When you take education, you get a
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shitload of it. When you go to a nursing school or a medical school
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to become a doctor or any other kind of specialist, you get a shitload
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of it. This is this is not something that just happens at activist schools.
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Activist schools, it'll be easier to do this to somebody, but it'll
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be easier to do this to somebody in a way that it is easier to
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break through millimeter thick ice than centimeter thick ice with a twenty pound sledgehammer.
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Where we're talking about a little resistance verse is zero. Yeah, the long,
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slow march through the institutions, as it's called, that have been made
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by feminists, obviously only at this point is starting to get its tendrils into
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the military and the police. But it started with the places into which women
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have always had the most access and that and that starts with education, because
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there's never been anything stopping women from being teachers in everything from kindergarten to universities.
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So obviously that's where it starts. And if you can see where the
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tendrils, where the tips of the branches are getting nowadays, imagine what it's
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like in the places where where they've had their roots buried ever since I want
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to say, the sixties at the very latest, and at this point they
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are they are feminist institutions, and they have been for so many generations that
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it's no one can imagine them being anything else. Can you just imagine that
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they found out that this hadn't happened, they didn't tell anyone, They made
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no announcement because they didn't. They didn't care about this kid. Like every
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person, every every parent with a boy in this school, your boy is
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considered expendable by this institution's administration. They're only saying this. They're only apologizing
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because they got caught out. But can you imagine that knowing it and not
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even thinking it necessary to exonerate this kid, just let him continue to suffer
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and just be like, well, our butts are covered. We got the
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important information, which is that you know these are this is a false accusation.
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That's all we need to know, because all we care about is whether
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or not a girl was harmed. That's it. That's all we care about.
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That's it, that one percent. That is the only thing they cared
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about about all of this. That's the only explanation for why they did this,
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that they would investigate this, tell no one they're they're finding absolutely no
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one. They only cared whether or not a girl is getting hurt. They
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didn't care about what happened to this boy at all, he was completely expendable
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to them, completely, He didn't even one of their students. The well
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being of one of their students, didn't even didn't even ping when their radar
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at all. And what's really incredible to me is they're putting this on mental
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health, like this is that our society really has a problem with his mental
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health thing. Okay, you say, oh, men need better mental health
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No not men need better mental health services. Men need to avail them of
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all of the plethora of services that the society gives them. So many men
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are just rolling in mental health services and they just they just refuse. They
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turned noses up like the spoilt little patriarchal brats. They are, first of
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all, they don't exist. Second of all, look at this situation.
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How is telling this boy You don't exonerate him, You don't tell anybody that
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you've investigated this and said, oh well, actually this didn't happen. You
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don't tell you just tell him, oh yeah, you're feeling a little bit
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depressed. Why don't you go and deal with your mental health issues? Like
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what the hell is that you punch someone in the face and then say,
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oh, well, you should deal with that mental health issue. Have another
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punch, punch, punch, punch, punch, punch. Oh look,
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more mental health issues. How about you stop punching him. How about you
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deal with the thing that's causing the problem. This is what infuriates me about
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the mental health discussion around men. Why don't you deal with the false accusation.
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Why don't you clear it up? Why are you now saying, after
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all this shit, your conclusion is, Oh, well, I guess those
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people who have fragile mental health like this boy, well they should just be
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forced to go and see therapy. Is that your conclusion, because look at
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this their conclusion. Or we need a dean that deals with mental health.
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No, you need a dean that takes a paddle to these assholes who make
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false accusations and kicks them out a metaphorical paddle. You know that's a paddling
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paddle. Yeah. Yeah, they don't actually use real ones in the United
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States anymore. But I, you know, I gotta point out what they've
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what they're doing, what feminists are doing with regard to this is saying that
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if you get upset when you are abused, because we're seeing it admitted now
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making a false allegation against you is abuse. The person who makes the false
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allegation is an abuser, right, That's an abuse behavior. It's an abusive
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act to make a false allegation of some against someone. And you're now being
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told that if you get upset about being abused by a female, that's that
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means that you have a mental health condition. We should be gaslighting. We
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should be just as suspicious of the term mental health as we are of the
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term gender reassignment, sorry, gender affirmation health or whatever it is, because
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what we're only just discovering that in that area has been long since yeah,
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overtaken and dominated by the very same feminist cult. And what the vast majority
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of psychologists, particularly the ones associated with universities and schools, what they call
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mental health is becoming a mentally healthy woman. They never gave any thoughts as
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to what it means to be a mentally healthy man. And that's that's how
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that's how we got here in the first place. But objecting to being abused
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is not mentally unhealthy. It is mentally healthy. You are not crazy when
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you let's get up, let's set because somebody has done something wrong to you.
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No complaining about what something a woman has done to you that's mentally unhealthy,
31:27
and you need to go to what we call therapy, report to the
31:32
nearest re education center immediately. And I remind you people like this is the
31:37
same institution that used to criminalize, like used to consider a slave trying to
31:41
escape to be a mental health disorder. Yeah, like these are people.
31:48
They just don't refer to to black people. They're talking about men. If
31:52
you drop out of what normal society and normal and you can't see me doing
31:59
this scare quotes, But what the establishment wants you to do. Get a
32:05
well paying job, marry somebody, support a family, put up with it.
32:09
When she leaves, you pay child support and let the state siphon off
32:13
part of that. Don't complain, work yourself to death, lay down and
32:17
die, and then after you're dead, get taxed one more fucking time.
32:23
If you don't do that, they call you a nut. They accuse you
32:28
of depression. They come up with special terms for you for dropping out of
32:32
society. They refer to you as as abnormal. They refer to you as
32:39
if you are a threat to society. Right, they don't make you as
32:43
big a threat if you don't want to get married as you as you are
32:47
if you do want to be with somebody and you can't. But either way,
32:52
if you're trying to escape the slave system where you're being taxed to death,
33:00
you're being made responsible for everything, your subjected, your subject to a
33:06
woman's whims and you have no recourse if she is unaccountable. They treat you
33:12
like you're crazy. So they're still doing it. They just don't. They
33:19
just don't limit it to black men. Now, it's all you can't.
33:23
I'm gonna make a I'm gonna make a proclamation. This proclamation should be binding.
33:30
You cannot speak on the issues of men's mental health unless you also advocate
33:36
for men's issues and the end of men's unfair suffering in our society. You
33:43
don't get you. You don't get to be the surgeon that's stabbing the patient
33:49
and sewing them up and the hero who sews them up at the same time.
33:52
So all of you's psychologists you don't get to talk about. You don't
33:58
get to condemn men's mental health. You don't get to condemn men's suicide rate
34:02
on their mental health, or more accurately, on their quote unquote toxic masculinity
34:07
or hegemonic masculinity or traditional masculinity, or whatever way you want to brand masculinity
34:15
as to blame. You don't get to blame it on them. You don't
34:17
even get to speak legitimately on men's mental health unless you recognize that the issues
34:23
that cause suffering to men should not be exacerbated by by social policy, social
34:32
and legal and political policy, and should not be should not be promoted by
34:38
academia as some kind of what is feminism gigantic lie sist on a crazy conspiracy
34:50
theory. Honestly, you think about you think about patriarchy theory. Patriarchy theory
34:58
is a gender wide false allegation that throughout all of history, the male population
35:05
has conspired to arrange society for their own undefined benefit, oppress all of female
35:14
the female population throughout history, and the female population has been unable throughout history,
35:21
despite being totally equal to the male population, to be able to get
35:24
out from under that thumb until compassion was invented in the United States in the
35:29
nineteen sixties. Compassion for women. Suddenly, you know, now, now
35:36
we have the capacity to get out from under men's thumbs. That's that's feminism
35:39
in a nutshell, And to speak to what Alison was saying. I don't
35:45
think it's any coincidence that we have such a culture of of of doctors acting
35:52
as glorified pharmacologists, sort of prescribing all manner of um of legal amphetamines in
36:00
various ssryes to combat a depression that's that's not even um based on the chemistry
36:09
or biology of the patient in question. Like if someone wakes up in this
36:15
world that has been created and and and realizes it sucks, that doesn't mean
36:23
they have they have a chemical mental condition that needs to be treated with a
36:28
bunch of pills, and that goes for adults, never mind boys. Like
36:34
no doctor should be prescribing a faithful of pills to a boy who looks around
36:39
him and goes, well, this kind of sucks, doesn't it. Like
36:44
maybe you could look at dare I say, the societal reasons that a boy
36:50
might look around him and logically conclude that this all kind of sucks because he's
36:55
right, he's dead, right, this does kind of suck, you know.
37:01
Um. Back in the eighties, when I was growing up in in
37:07
northern Ohio, it was becoming increasingly common and my dad was very disturbed by
37:14
this he was at that time, he was teaching in the junior high in
37:17
our in our school system, he had taught from the younger elementary level up
37:24
into he taught high school kids. But what the kids he taught were the
37:30
kids with learning disabilities who weren't necessarily going on to the same outcomes that some
37:37
of the other students were, but they're the school. They were attending school
37:42
to receive better outcomes than they might have if they didn't have any assistance.
37:45
So he's done everything from helping kids with serious learning disabilities become employable so that
37:54
they could have some independence in their adulthood, to teaching fourth and fifth graders
38:00
science and math and reading in English and all that. And he was teaching
38:07
thirteen year olds for the longest part of his career, thirteen fourteen year old
38:10
junior high school students. And he was seeing more and more kids come in
38:15
with individual what's it called individual educational plans i EPs, I think, And
38:24
what it is is you the kid is diagnosed with something, and the school
38:30
has to consider their diagnosis in terms of discipline and their educational requirements and so
38:37
on. And more and more kids were coming in with i EPs that cited
38:44
tension, deficit disorder and riddling. More and more of the more boys,
38:49
mostly not girls, mostly boys, and it's kids that get diagnosed at about
38:53
the age where kids wiggles still outweigh his common sense in the classroom, and
39:04
if he doesn't get enough recess time to work those out, his behavior in
39:09
the classroom is going to be unacceptable to his teacher. And that's just a
39:14
fact. There's not you can't deny that children need playtime in order to be
39:21
able to focus on studies. It's documented, it's studied and documented, and
39:27
at our school system, it was school board policy that you could not take
39:30
away a child's recess as punishment. Well, as this was happening, I
39:37
would have been in the fourth grade, and my brother would have been in
39:43
the second grade, and he had a teacher that was keeping him in at
39:46
recess to complete work that he wasn't getting done during class because unlike the other
39:52
students, he was very meticulous and he was getting one hundred percent on everything
39:58
because he was going back into checking his work and making sure he was measuring
40:02
twice so that he only had a cut once in everything that he did,
40:07
and other students would rush through their work, they would get out to recess,
40:13
they would come back in and play, and he was missing all three
40:15
recesses and we didn't find out about it until one day he just broke down
40:21
and sobbed, you know, like his heart was broken. When mom asked
40:24
him to do a chore after school, which we always did, we had
40:29
chores to do after school, and she said, you've had time to play
40:32
outside already today. Just take some time to do this so you can play
40:37
some more. And he said, I haven't had any recess today at all.
40:39
And that's how we found out. The teachers weren't even communicating to my
40:45
parents that he wasn't getting his work done in the classroom. And my dad
40:47
had to go in and talk to this teacher about this, and he said,
40:52
you know, what is it you're trying to teach the kid, because
40:53
he asked, all the other students have perfect work that are getting to have
40:58
their recess. Is their work perfect? Well, no, they're missing problems.
41:01
They're getting wrong answers on their problems. Kids do that, But his
41:05
work is his work? Is he getting a lot of wrong answers? Is
41:07
he not able to perform the work? No, he's actually one of the
41:13
few students in the classes getting a hundred percent. Well, why do you
41:15
think that is? He's double checking his work. So what you're teaching the
41:19
kids is that if they rush through and do half a job, they get
41:23
to go outside and play, but if they're careful and they do a good
41:27
job, they don't. And then he showed her the part in a book,
41:31
the school board policy book, this is where it says that you're not
41:36
allowed to do what you're doing to my son. And he had to actually
41:39
go to the principle because the teacher objected like, well, I don't care
41:44
if it's policy, I'm not going to change my rules. She changed her
41:49
rules. She didn't like him very much for a little while after that.
41:52
But that was the first time my father threatened a lawsuit in response to something
41:59
this gool did wrong. And it wasn't the last time. And it always
42:05
seemed to fall on my brother. But they screwed They screwed him over a
42:09
bunch of times. They screwed me over twice, and both times it took
42:17
one conversation with my dad and that was the end of it. But the
42:24
issue that he was noticing and that I remember from growing up is boys needs
42:34
for breaks and time to work out the excess energy, the excess physical energy,
42:42
kids get the zoomies just like cats. Boys get the zoomies bigger and
42:47
more frequently than girls. When boys get the zoomies, they have less control
42:53
over them than girls. And so what happens your teacher looks at your eight
42:59
year old kids and says, Oh, your kid has attention deficit disorder.
43:02
No, he's a boy, leave him alone. So by the time I
43:07
grew up, I was like, I was all geared up to fight about
43:10
it if my son was diagnosed by the school. But by that time they
43:17
had fortunately started reforming that and I didn't have to fight that battle, which
43:25
is fortunate for whoever would have brought it up to me, because I was
43:29
already mad about it because of the way my brother was treated growing up.
43:32
My brother is a genius. Like you guys tell me you think I'm smart,
43:37
but you have not met smart until you meet my brother, Like he
43:42
blows me out of the water. I can't even begin to tell you.
43:46
And he didn't deserve to be treated like that. And if they do that
43:52
to a legit genius, then they're going to do that to every boy in
43:57
the classroom, and and they don't take into consideration the boy's experience. They
44:04
only take into consideration how it affects the teacher's control over the classroom, and
44:08
they treat him like he's a problem. But they will single out the geniuses,
44:14
by the way, that's worth pointing out. Yeah, the boys that
44:16
go along with what the girls tell them to do not as in danger as
44:22
as as the boys who can think for themselves. That's that's the that's the
44:27
that's the horror, the horrific reality of the situation. Yeah, that is
44:31
true. That is true. And I saw that with friends. One of
44:35
the things my brother had that um I never had was he could fit in.
44:38
He's very social. Um if you were going to call somebody in the
44:43
family a social butterfly, that would be him, right, And that was
44:46
definitely not me. Um and I had friends who were you know, kids,
44:54
kids that today would get labeled threats and called in cells and all kinds
44:59
of stuff. None of them were dangerous. They were just isolated, were
45:04
lonely, socially awkward. UM I had friends that I was their only friend,
45:10
and I, like I just was friends with whoever was willing to be
45:13
friends with me, so Um that led me to be friends with pretty much
45:17
everybody, at least on some level. And there are guys that were good,
45:23
guys, that were smart, that were kind everything that boys are,
45:30
right, They were curious, they were they had ingenuity, Um, they
45:35
were they were friendly to people. Um, they just didn't know the rules
45:39
of how to to connect with other people very well. Um that got treated
45:46
like diseases, you know, because they were different. They had uh this
45:54
this kind of facial feature difference, or they had dandriff where they couldn't control
46:00
body odor, or they didn't know how to talk to people. They knew
46:04
too much about math, they liked math too much, you know. Whatever
46:08
they could they could program your computer. And that was back in the eighties.
46:14
Weird, you know that that was. But yeah, like those guys
46:21
did get singled out and they did get treated like they were a threat to
46:25
somebody even when they did nothing wrong. And what's really dumb is when somebody
46:32
was a threat, male or female, if that person was socially adept,
46:38
that threat wasn't recognized. And I went through that too, and I saw
46:42
my friends go through that too. Bullying from both sexes not very much.
46:47
My school was small, and there wasn't a lot of Like if I got
46:51
bullied by somebody and I broke their nose, um, my school would basically
46:57
treat it like, well, you know, even even score year, that
47:00
person bullied this person, this person hit them back and broke their nose.
47:04
Now they won't do it anymore. Problem solved, Right, you get to
47:07
tension. But you know, we knew you did what you had to do,
47:13
right, that was. That was And as a result, there wasn't
47:15
a shitload of bullying in the school. And you know, we never had
47:20
a school shooting either. Um. Not that I think violence is necessarily the
47:24
answer, you know, but certainly ignoring the problem. And after you discover
47:34
that the type of bullying being a false allegation was completely illegitimate and egregiously wrong,
47:42
you do nothing like that's certainly not a good response either. You know,
47:45
In my opinion, this the accuser, the original accuser, should have
47:51
been tracked down who made this rumor up? And anybody that had repeated the
47:55
rumor should have been threatened with punishment until they admitted who told them the rumor?
48:02
Where Where did you hear this? Where did this rumor come to you
48:07
from? Until they got to the the originator of the rumor, and you
48:13
never need get to the originator of the rumor. That person should have been
48:16
kicked out of school, that school should not harbor that person any further.
48:21
Ever, again, it's it's difficult to tell how much bullying goes on because
48:27
bullying typically gets passed down, much like it gets passed down from from parents
48:32
to let's say the eldest child, and the eldest child passes it down to
48:39
the next child down, and then to the next child down, and then
48:44
the child at the bottom rung of the ladder. There's no way to go
48:47
other than perhaps in the school, and it's it's much the same in the
48:52
in the school dynamic, the child at the top of the social ladder or
49:00
whatever problems they have at home, that they passed that punch on down to
49:05
the next to the next lowest social rank in the school, and they pass
49:10
it down to the next lowest until it gets to the very lowest rank in
49:15
the school. The outcast kids who have no one to pass it down to,
49:22
well, there is that they tend to be the ones who explode in
49:28
a rather dramatic affair that might even make it onto the news if you get
49:32
if you get what I'm saying, there is that, but there is also
49:36
like my one really bad bully in high school. Um. And she was
49:42
younger than me actually, but she was bigger than me too. Um.
49:46
And she didn't use much physical aggression. It was mostly relational aggression. She
49:51
was an only kid, if I understand right, she didn't have any siblings.
49:54
UM. I don't think she had a dad at home, and her
50:00
mom kind of let her run wild, and she was a piece of work.
50:06
I'm not going to get into a lot about her, but I will
50:07
say that a big part of the reason that she was a bully was because
50:15
she had no accountability, no boundaries. Nobody came along and and made her
50:22
stop when her behavior was bad. Because you couldn't tell her mom. You
50:28
couldn't, like the school, couldn't go to her mom and say, you
50:30
know, missus, missus bully's mom, bully did these things and it's inappropriate.
50:36
And mom would be like, oh, well, I'm going to have
50:38
her sit down and talk to me about this, and we're gonna settle that
50:43
she doesn't behave that way, and this is the discipline that's going to take
50:46
place. Like, that's not what would happen. I would have happened if
50:51
you know, my parents were contacted and I was doing something bad. But
50:55
her mom would have would have said, you know, you stop talking about
50:59
my utter that way. I'm not I'm going to sue the school if you
51:02
do anything. You know I'm I'm not. I'm not accepting this. You
51:07
know. That's as far as it will go. So she never got in
51:10
any trouble, and she she was actually in a gang that you know.
51:19
I think I've talked a little bit about getting involved with a gang that I
51:24
didn't realize was a gang until I'd been hanging out with them for about a
51:30
year and they were rivals, and that's why she went after me. I
51:36
didn't know that until i'd been out of school for years, didn't understand that
51:40
until I'd been out of school for years. She got involved. And both
51:45
of those were in other communities, two separate other communities, by the way,
51:52
and it was all about territory where where drugs were being sold, and
51:57
I had no idea right the school, had they been able to do anything
52:02
about that situation, Had the mom done anything about that situation, might have
52:07
prevented the spread of drugs being sold in our community about two or three years
52:15
before it just flat out exploded, but they didn't, so I ended up
52:22
living next door to a drug dealer a few years later. It's just horrible
52:28
anyway. But yeah, school's not doing anything about bullying when women do it,
52:31
when girls do it, and girls not being accountable because of their parents
52:36
and in particular because of a single mom, Like that's a huge issue.
52:39
So it's not just siblingitis. It's not just bullying being handed down and handed
52:47
down and handed down. There is also neglect that causes it and it has
52:52
widespread repercussions in the community. Yeah, it's not even called bullying when girls
52:58
do it as reductive and childish at term bullying is. It's not even applied
53:04
when young girls do it to to young boys. There's no such word for
53:10
what it means when young girls do it to young boys. Must let there's
53:14
no such word when adult women do it to adult I guess it's called nagging
53:20
as as as a euphemism for abuse. But it's all it's all just abuse.
53:24
We just we neglect to call it what it is. When when a
53:30
female of any age does it to a male of any age. And that's
53:34
that's I guess what. We'd all be better off if we could highlight at
53:38
least using basic language. Yeah, that would be that would be helpful.
53:44
So what steps are the schools gonna take? This one had a particular set
53:47
here. They came up with themselves. I guess um, And and here's
53:52
here's how it's described. In a frank, honest and heartwarming or heart wrenching
53:57
admission. UH, the school, which ranks among the nation's top boarding schools,
54:02
believes Jack's death could have been prevented and stated there were also there also
54:09
were circumstances in which the involvement of an adult would have made a difference.
54:15
So basically what we've said, you know when an adult should have stepped in
54:20
here and done something about the situation long before this happened. Let's see if
54:24
I can get down further here. As we seek to improve as a community,
54:30
we have examined our role and take responsibility for what we could have done
54:36
Differently, Lawrenceville's top priority is the physical, social, and emotional health,
54:39
safety and well being of our students. We recognize that in Jack's case,
54:45
we fell tragically short of these expectations. The statement read. Jack was universally
54:50
regarded as an extremely kind and goodhearted young man, with an unwavering sense of
54:54
social and civic responsibility and a bright future. We continue to mourn this loss,
55:02
the school wrote in the statement, noting how a settlement had been reached
55:07
with his parents, William and Elizabeth Read. The agreement requires the school,
55:13
which hosts eight hundred and thirty students, to undertake a series of corrective actions,
55:16
including creating a new dean's position that will focus on the mental health issues.
55:23
Focus on mental health issues with the goal of becoming a model for anti
55:27
bullying and student mental health. Right again, if somebody does something awful to
55:35
you, if somebody abuses you and you get upset about it, that doesn't
55:40
mean you're crazy. That is a rational response to being abused. You should
55:45
get upset if you're abused, that's that pisses me off. But in any
55:52
case, and this picture coming up here is the boy's father, And I'm
56:00
pretty sure something about the way this picture looks tells me this was taken during
56:10
the time when he was grieving, because he just he looks like he's trying
56:15
to look happy and he can't. But this goes on, Let's see,
56:22
that looks like me trying to smile in any given photograph. Yeah, it's
56:25
possible that he just doesn't smile on photographs too, he does, you know,
56:30
like a lot of people have that difficulty. But I don't know.
56:35
And it's possible that because I know his son died, I'm interpreting pain into
56:38
his face because I'm going through I'm dealing with grief currently. But it just
56:47
it seems like this is the smile of a guy that's going through something painful.
56:53
And then like, I don't know, I um, I lost a
56:57
classmate in school that was universally loved like this kid seems like he was universally
57:04
loved and he was just a really good kid, and it wasn't anything like
57:09
this. He had a heart condition and it was he was in treatment for
57:15
it, and they took too long, and too long was the normal amount
57:19
of time that you would expect to take for a condition like this. His
57:22
condition was worse than they thought, and so we lost him. I was
57:30
out of school when we lost him for the summer, and when I went
57:36
back to school, I had his dad in class, and I just had
57:39
the most terrible time. Look at him in the eye, because you could
57:43
see it. And I just couldn't look him in the eye without crying,
57:45
because this kid was gone and everybody loved him, but nobody was going to
57:51
love him as much as his parents, and it just hurt to see it.
57:58
And I can't imagine what they went through. And I can't imagine what
58:00
these parents went through. And so that's probably what I'm reading into that face.
58:06
But I'll go on with the reading the goal of becoming a model for
58:13
anti bullying and student mental health. But are they going to address the false
58:16
allegations, Like there should be repercussions for leveling a false allegation in addition to
58:24
the act of bullying. That's a lie when you tell a lie to the
58:30
authorities in the criminal justice world, for instance, if I'd a safe in
58:37
my apartment and I had valuables to keep in it, like jewelry or something,
58:45
and I went to the police and I said, somebody broke into my
58:49
apartment and got into my safe and took the items that were in it out
58:54
and they were worth X amount of money, and I'm filed it in ran
59:00
claiming all that, and started criminal investigation, and then it was discovered that
59:06
I hid them at a friend's house and was committing fraud. In addition to
59:10
the fraud charges, there would also be charges for filing a false complaint with
59:15
police and lying to police during an investigation. And if I had named a
59:21
person that I thought did the theft and then gone into court and testified against
59:24
them, there would be perjury charges. Those things would happen. Right.
59:30
But if I point a finger at some guy and accuse him of beating on
59:35
me or raping me, and I do all those same things, lie to
59:39
police, file a false criminal complaint, lie to police during the investigation,
59:45
and then commit perjury against the accused. There are systems in place that,
59:51
unfortunately would protect me from accountability, and in at the state level, there
59:59
are way to fight that. There are lawsuits, there are um you can
1:00:07
accuse the state of discrimination in order to get the state to hold the person
1:00:09
accountable, and they will. It's not common, but it happens in the
1:00:15
school system. There's no recourse. You falsely accused somebody in the school system,
1:00:22
and the principle doesn't punish you for it, doesn't teach you to be
1:00:27
more Honestum, you get away with it, and you learn I can do
1:00:31
this, and it doesn't matter how many girls are getting taught that in the
1:00:39
high school level, how many girls are getting taught that in the junior high
1:00:43
school level. Not a lot of boys are getting taught that either. It's
1:00:46
just I guess generally assumed that no child would would ever be dishonest. Yeah,
1:00:52
because because because then then the the the teacher board or whatever it's called,
1:00:59
what what have to face accusations of there I say, victim, blame
1:01:04
me. It just it just so happens that UM bought young boys and young
1:01:10
adult males on all that prone to false accusations. But but but girls very
1:01:19
much. Ah, And unfortunately girls are learning that, you know, if
1:01:24
they stick with allegations like this, they can get away with it, right,
1:01:30
and nobody's going to do anything to them about it. If the attempt
1:01:35
fails, you know, where they don't get what they wanted. Uh,
1:01:38
it's just a wash. It's not going to come back on them. And
1:01:43
that's that's a really bad lesson to teach anybody. I can I can point
1:01:46
this social gun at somebody and I can fire it right in their face,
1:01:52
right and well, if you know, if it misfires or if they happen
1:01:57
to have armor against it, I can just try again some other time.
1:02:01
No, biggie, it takes it takes a whole other set of skills to
1:02:07
figure out if someone is lying or not. This is this is one of
1:02:12
the most difficult things about being a police detective. Yeah, being able to
1:02:15
sit someone down and really talk them through their statements and you know, really
1:02:22
try and get to the number of the matter as to whether or not they're
1:02:24
lying. And it's it's remarkably difficult because not only does everyone lie, but
1:02:31
a great deal of people not only lie, but they're very accustomed to lying.
1:02:37
They're very accustomed to getting their story straight. And it's a very yet
1:02:43
the skill set you need to be a police detective is very different from the
1:02:46
skill set you need to be a teacher. And teachers just aren't prepared to
1:02:52
go through what a police detective is supposed to be prepared to go through.
1:02:57
And so they aren't. They just deal with every claims as though it's true,
1:03:02
and and and so they're just assumed by default that it is true.
1:03:06
And and so any any student that is that is prone to to being exceptionally
1:03:14
good at lying is going to have the upper hand, and as it happens,
1:03:19
I'm gonna say it, girls are more prone to lying than boys are.
1:03:23
And yes, yes, I'm going to say it. I'm I'm gonna
1:03:25
go ahead and add the proviso that, yes, perhaps boys are more naturally
1:03:30
violent than girls, but girls more naturally drawn too lying than boys are.
1:03:38
And yet teachers are, you know, trying to deal with violence, but
1:03:42
they're not trying to deal with lying. And this is the problem. It's
1:03:45
just it's just assumed that boys are violent, but it's not assumed that girls
1:03:51
are liars, whereas in reality they're all violent liars, well not all of
1:03:57
them, but they but they both are equally own to violence and lying.
1:04:02
It's just that girls can get away with both of these things because well because
1:04:08
because of of of I don't know, I don't know what, because of
1:04:15
feminism. Let's just fucking no. It's here's here's the thing with teachers.
1:04:19
They do expect students to lie. It's it's what the student is lying about
1:04:24
that's different. Um, kid doesn't get their homework done, A teacher expects
1:04:29
the student to lie about that. Right, if your dog actually ate your
1:04:33
homework, your teacher would not believe you. And uh you know, we
1:04:38
had meetings at the beginning of every year with teachers, um talking to the
1:04:42
whole um class, you know, orientation type meetings where teachers would say that
1:04:47
get your homework done, get it turned in. I don't want to hear
1:04:50
that your dog ate it, and you better have some sort of documentation of
1:04:54
a vet bill for treating the dog for swallowing your homework before I'm going to
1:04:58
believe that, right. Um. So, they do treat kids as automatic
1:05:02
liars and situations like that, but they are literally trained to believe student allegations
1:05:11
of any kind of abuse, and they are mandatory reporters if they accuse mom
1:05:15
and dad, or if they accuse and or uncle or brother or sister,
1:05:20
you know, anybody in their home, right um, or another teacher,
1:05:27
and uh so they're gonna they're predisposed to believe it when they accuse another student.
1:05:31
The problem with girls is boys and girls have different ways of fantasy.
1:05:38
Right. Boys fantasize about being superheroes, police officers, firemen of cowboys,
1:05:45
um, bank robbers, right like anything that has any kind of excitement to
1:05:50
it that involves actions victims at the center of attention. They fantasize about being
1:05:59
the center of attention. So they fantasize about being beauty queens. They fantasize
1:06:02
about being magical. They fantasize about being victims. They fantasize about being um,
1:06:11
the the leader of a movement. They fantasize about being like Joan of
1:06:15
Arc right. Um, they don't. They don't fantasize necessarily about being the
1:06:20
superhero. And when you're a girl and you do fantasize about being a superhero,
1:06:27
you damn well better and never tell the other girls about it, because
1:06:30
they will treat you like you are the weirdest person they ever met. Um.
1:06:32
Well, just you know, unless you you like Wonder Woman and Supergirl
1:06:36
because they look cool and not because they protect people and save lives. Um
1:06:45
but but yeah, got to the twenty first century when all female superheroes portrayed
1:06:51
as being morally perfect, physically perfect people who happen to be victims. Yes,
1:07:00
are taking out all of the problems on men anyway, perfectly mortal men
1:07:05
who have done them wrong in some way. Yes, well, anyway,
1:07:11
when a kid has difficulty separating fantasy from reality and they start acting on those
1:07:16
fantasies, boys get broken bones from jumping off the roof and try and fly
1:07:21
like Superman. Or they get into trouble for setting fires so they can put
1:07:29
them out like a fireman, or you know, playing too rough with the
1:07:31
other kids, you know, and stuff like that. Girls orchestrate situations to
1:07:39
make themselves the center of attention, right. They tell massive lies, They
1:07:46
create drama, They get themselves in trouble with other kids, and then run
1:07:54
to adults for protection. You know, that's the kind of thing that happens
1:07:58
when girls have trouble separating fantasy from reality and they don't consider the other kids
1:08:04
to be human beings that experience their behavior and the fallout from their behavior their
1:08:12
accessories to the fantasy. So when boys lie, or when boys fail to
1:08:20
separate fantasy from reality and they believe things that are not true, or they
1:08:27
convince themselves of things that are not true, or they act as those things
1:08:30
are true that are not true, you know, they're more likely to get
1:08:33
hurt than they are to hurt other people. If they do hurt other people,
1:08:39
they do it in ways that they're held accountable for. When girls do
1:08:42
that, they blow up their entire social environment, create massive amounts of damage
1:08:49
and then walk away from the explosion behind them, you know, like the
1:08:56
action hero in a movie, unscathed and unconcerned that they've done any damage at
1:09:02
all, no sense of guilt, no sense of consideration, nothing, unless
1:09:09
there is an adult in their lives that says, look what you did.
1:09:13
Turn around and see that explosion, see the people in it, see the
1:09:15
way it's burning them. That's your fault. Don't do this again. And
1:09:21
that's very rare. I mean a lot of them do look at the explosion,
1:09:26
because that's the whole point, right. Some of them do get it,
1:09:29
and some of them will even get off on the damage they've done,
1:09:31
right, Like, I can make this guy behave anyway I want to.
1:09:35
I can control anything he does. I can do this, I can do
1:09:38
that. But a lot of them just don't care. A lot of them
1:09:42
are completely just not oblivious, but stoic. Right, they don't care.
1:09:54
It doesn't matter to them. It's beneath them. They're going to go on
1:09:58
to the next fantasy, right, that's it. But going on with this,
1:10:03
um, let's see, we feel we feel like we both have life
1:10:10
sentences without the possibility of parole. Jack's mother, doctor Elizabeth read. A
1:10:14
clinical psychologist said to The New York Times, the only thing I'd love to
1:10:17
change here is to get Jack back. I can't. I do know if
1:10:24
he were alive, he would want me, both of us, to try
1:10:27
to make something good out of this and honor him in the way that he
1:10:30
lived his life. We think, I just want to say a thing.
1:10:35
I want to say something here. How dare anyone blame toxic masculinity like the
1:10:41
APA guidelines as Association Psychological American Psychological Association, they would blame toxic masculinity on
1:10:50
this boy's for this boy's suicide. Yeah, they would say, oh,
1:10:56
no, he should reach out, Well did he not? And then the
1:11:00
system didn't give him what he genuinely needed? And now you're going to blame
1:11:04
him again. How dare they? I really hope you should have heman reach
1:11:10
out. No, you shouldn't have had this. This is not damage that
1:11:13
should have been done in the first place. But the thing is that this
1:11:15
is what they do. Yeah, Like they don't recognize the unique harms that
1:11:21
the society. Men have to face in this society. They don't recognize them.
1:11:26
They refuse to because of course they have their orthodoxy that we exist in
1:11:30
the society for the benefit of men at the expense of women. They have
1:11:34
their orthodoxy, and honestly, I don't know how people can't see this.
1:11:40
How scientists will weld themselves to particular viewpoints. Well, an any group of
1:11:50
people will weld themselves to a particular reviewpoint and refuse to acknowledge contrary evidence.
1:11:57
And it's really bad when it comes to aim because literally the people are born
1:12:03
with the lens that makes it difficult for them to see men's issues in the
1:12:08
first place as legitimate, as not the responsibility of men. Like this is
1:12:13
what I've seen of most people. No offense to the a to the normies.
1:12:18
Normies have difficulty comprehending men's issues as something other than men's problems, and
1:12:28
the psychologists buy into that. They're part of that mechanic, and all they've
1:12:33
done is created a bunch of gobbledegook to justify pre existing prejudices against men's issues.
1:12:41
And then so they won't they won't look at these things, and they
1:12:43
won't acknowledge that there are certain things that men have to face like this boy
1:12:47
faced. There are certain pressures, certain forms of persecution that men have to
1:12:56
face in our society that women don't. It's very rare for a woman to
1:13:00
face this kind of sexual assault allegation. False sexual assault allegation period, okay,
1:13:06
because men don't make them credibly. Even even one hundred percent factual and
1:13:13
proven sexual assault accusation by men can still be seen as false simply because he
1:13:19
has a penis, all right, So women can't. Men can't make these
1:13:24
accusations. These are things that boys and men face that they won't acknowledge as
1:13:30
unique harms and will instead say, oh, it's your toxic masculinity that's to
1:13:34
blame, because it's the same mentality, and it's it's older than feminism.
1:13:40
It's you can even see it in conservative thinking. No offense, this idea
1:13:45
that if a man has a problem, it's his fault, even if that
1:13:50
problem was caused by someone else, was directly caused by someone else. As
1:13:55
soon as the punch hits his face, it's his fault, he has to
1:13:59
deal with it. If it's a woman doing it, it's this mentality is
1:14:04
older than feminism, and basically the psychological association has just codified that gender dynamic,
1:14:13
that that relationship between the genders, which is archaic, that men are
1:14:19
responsible for the things that happen to them, even if they have no control
1:14:25
over the causal mechanisms. And women are not responsible for the things they do,
1:14:29
even if they have full control over the causal mechanisms. This is old.
1:14:33
This is the real gender dichotomy. This is the lens that almost everybody
1:14:39
operates under. This is like the pressure in people's brains, and the APA
1:14:44
is just basically a reflection of that. And I don't know, I just
1:14:48
find it astounding because this is something that this boy, this shouldn't be put
1:14:54
on him at all. And I hope that his mother, because I see
1:14:58
that she's a psychiatrist or collegist. I hope she thinks about this really carefully.
1:15:04
Yeah, and about what the APA is telling other boys and men about
1:15:09
their mental health and their responsibility. Yeah, okay. And this largely explains
1:15:15
why the vast majority of normies as we're calling them, aren't talking about the
1:15:21
issues we're talking about about about men's issues. They would much rather have a
1:15:28
pissing contest over this transsexual issue. Because the thing about transsexuals is that on
1:15:35
one side of the argument, there's there's people saying, well, these are
1:15:40
people who identify as women. Therefore, they are victimized as women, and
1:15:44
they're being victimized by the patriarchy. And the other side of the normies are
1:15:49
saying, no, these are men, and they are endangering women by being
1:15:56
in women's spaces and so and they even though they think they are two diametrically
1:16:03
opposed factions of some kind of culture war, they're both doing the same thing.
1:16:11
Yeah, they're both focusing on this paradigm of men are threatening women.
1:16:17
They just have different different definitions of what is a woman. It's like,
1:16:23
have you ever seen a dog growling at a mirror? Yeah, exactly what
1:16:28
it is. You look when you when you step out of this dynamic and
1:16:31
you can see it for what it is. It is stupid and it is
1:16:38
it is a failure of self identification. I mean dogs. It may not
1:16:42
actually be a failure of self identification when dogs growl at each other because their
1:16:45
understanding of self is different than ours. It might be more based on scent.
1:16:49
But when you see that, it is a failure to recognize yourself in
1:16:56
the mirror. And that's what we're seeing between the turfs and the conservatives who
1:16:59
have this line and the trans individuals who alleged trans misogyny. They are both
1:17:05
growling at a mirror, and the worst part they don't even realize what the
1:17:12
worst part is. They they're all condemning men and masculinity. Right, And
1:17:17
it used to be that it was most common um And I say common loosely
1:17:26
because actual gender dysphoria and transitioning were rare occurrences that happened under rare circumstances.
1:17:35
Um. That was, that was not something that you saw very frequently.
1:17:40
Right, It happened in the past, but it wasn't like right now,
1:17:45
you know, you're seeing them everywhere. Um. And one of the things
1:17:49
that I noticed looking at it was for for every trans woman you ran into,
1:17:56
or every every ten trans women or twenty trans woman and you ran into,
1:18:00
you might meet one trans man. One woman might decide, or one
1:18:04
girl might decide that she feels like she's more masculine. And I'm trying to
1:18:11
figure out, you know, for years and years why the imbalance. Well,
1:18:15
it's pretty obvious. Like I in growing up and everything I could do,
1:18:23
every single thing the boys in my neighborhood did, and nobody would say,
1:18:28
gosh, you seem more like a boy than a girl. They might
1:18:30
call me a tomboy, but it was a cute see little nickname that I
1:18:34
was given, that that didn't detract from my femininity. And I could I
1:18:41
could run around, um in blue jeans and a T shirt, playing football
1:18:46
with the boys and climbing trees and stuff like that all week long and wear
1:18:50
a frilly dress and a bonnet on Sunday to church and nobody would bat an
1:18:56
eye. Oh you look so different. You don't look like yourself. Nothing
1:18:59
like that would happen. It was, oh, well, you know,
1:19:00
Hannah cleans up nice. You know, that's cute, um, and that's
1:19:04
it. But if my brother stepped a little bit out of out of line,
1:19:12
and he really didn't in terms of he was pretty typical, um,
1:19:15
gender typical. But my first little boyfriend wasn't. He liked some girly things,
1:19:23
and uh, he got beat up for it. Right, he wasn't
1:19:28
trans, but he wasn't gender typical, so he got beat up for it.
1:19:34
I never got beat up for being gender a typical as a kid,
1:19:38
right, I you know, like I got. I got beat up for
1:19:41
a lot of other things, but not that. Um. That's why.
1:19:45
That's why trans women outnumber trans men um and and severely outnumbered transmen throughout the
1:19:56
history of trans issues because the gender role for men and boys is very strict
1:20:02
and very narrow, and if you step out of lyne, your whole identity
1:20:05
gets questioned. The gender role for women and girls is wide. Dare I
1:20:12
say broad, make a pun in the middle of the conversation, but very
1:20:15
wide. The gender role for girls and women has a lot of things allowed
1:20:21
in it, and it gets expanded all the time, and we're allowed to
1:20:25
argue about it and not get treated like we are taking way from society on
1:20:31
a moral level. And in fact, women expanding it aren't even criticized for
1:20:41
you can't get criticized for explaining it. Now, I would say trenders are
1:20:49
narrowing that role when what we should be doing is expanding men's role just enough
1:20:59
so that they don't feel like they have to be the opposite sex in order
1:21:01
to be accepted as human beings because they're a little jeter atypical. Give back
1:21:08
their their clothing choices they had like thirty years ago, for goodness sake,
1:21:12
I would have you noticed with you know, well, yeah, you guy
1:21:16
can't wear short shorts now, canny, No, or short, cross bodies,
1:21:20
totally crap or or tight or tight pants or like those really crazy butterfly
1:21:28
collars with the shirt open to the navel. No, not not any of
1:21:30
that stuff anymore, and certainly not unlive. If you don't have a body
1:21:34
like what's is Chris Helmsworth, like you know before in the seventies, you
1:21:41
could be like there's a lot of yous like that. Yeah, you could
1:21:45
be you could be slim, very very slim and tall, skinny, you
1:21:47
could be tubby, you could have a dad bod. You could be anything
1:21:50
in between. You could have you know, the big bulky muscle figure.
1:21:57
You could be sinewy and and uh you know, you could be the uh
1:22:04
nine pound pencil that geek. Right. Um, you get ribbed about it,
1:22:11
But you weren't viewed as not a man because you look that way.
1:22:15
You could you could look like anything as long as you were good at something
1:22:17
and that would be enough. Yeah. Well, I mean we used to
1:22:23
have a lot of more expansive not just for men but also for women.
1:22:28
There are a lot more things that you could take a sense of self from,
1:22:30
an attractiveness from. Now it's all you have to look like Barbie and
1:22:34
not even can you have to look like can after five years of roid's you
1:22:41
know, it's it's like, it's just insane. What what's happening. At
1:22:44
the same time, everything is sexless, like absolutely sexless. Yeah, it's
1:22:48
just it's without any kind of it's yeah. But but what I wanted,
1:22:54
what I wanted to actually say about this and what you were saying, Well,
1:22:58
first of all, there's an upsurgeon trans men now like they now outnumber
1:23:02
trans women and I actually is talking about this years ago. Autistic girls are
1:23:08
being targeted for transition. I talked about this years ago. If you tell
1:23:12
young women and I when I talked about it, this hadn't started happening yet.
1:23:15
If you tell young women that they are perpetual victims, they're going to
1:23:20
be uncomfortable with their gender. There's the their sex because because of that,
1:23:27
and I'm gonna I can see a rash of people starting to want to transition
1:23:32
because of the way that we have structured masculine and feminine in our society,
1:23:38
and we believe that masculine is oppression, women is victim, women is victim
1:23:42
or femininity is victimhood. And the other thing is that we don't actually like,
1:23:46
none of this is really challenging gender roles at all, none of it,
1:23:51
you know, and people like, um, I mean, there was
1:23:56
a period of time when I was a lot younger that I had gender dysphum
1:24:02
what is it called gender dysphoria dysphoria. It wasn't clinically like I didn't,
1:24:10
I didn't get a clinical diagnosis. They just thought I was fucking weird.
1:24:15
Um. And I'm actually sort of glad that I didn't get sucked into that
1:24:19
because it did resolve itself to the point where I just I don't care they
1:24:24
I really don't fucking care what people think I am. I am me,
1:24:28
so be it. But there are still things that I'm really uncomfortable with when
1:24:33
it comes to being female. But you know, I'm not gonna get into
1:24:35
that. But the point is that I know, having gone through that,
1:24:41
I know what gender is and what gender roles really are. They have nothing
1:24:45
to do with pink or blue. They have to do with who has to
1:24:50
take responsibility at the end of the day, Who is forced to tab the
1:24:56
consequences of their actions and the consequences of other people's actions appended to them.
1:25:00
That's men, And who is expected to revolve around the well being of the
1:25:09
other. So we have men who are expected to revolve around the well being
1:25:15
of women, who are expected to provide and protect for them. That's the
1:25:17
conservative one. That's the conservative framework of gender. The so called feminist reworking
1:25:23
of it is that men are provide and protect for women on a psychological or
1:25:29
social level. So they promote this kind of empowerment resource which is somehow going
1:25:34
into their brains and making them feel good about themselves or something. But I've
1:25:40
seen it. I've seen it with feminist men. They have not exited the
1:25:45
man box. This is the great joke is that I hear feminist men talk
1:25:49
about the man box, and it's like, well, you're still in it.
1:25:53
You honestly think, judging yourself by how well you protect and provide for
1:25:58
women on this new resource, which is just psychological, is different than how
1:26:01
conservative men judge themselves for protecting and providing for women on a material resource,
1:26:06
because you know, we didn't we hadn't gotten to the point where everybody is
1:26:11
materially taken care of. Yet you don't see how that's exactly the same.
1:26:15
And I'm like watching what was it Jubilee they had male feminist or a male
1:26:20
feminist versus male anti feminists. The male anti feminists were like, let's talk
1:26:26
about men's vulnerabilities and how we can support each other and what we feel about
1:26:30
the things that these were the male anti feminists, that we're talking about this,
1:26:35
you know that we're open about talking about these issues. The male feminists
1:26:41
were all to a man beating their chests about being the man who protects women
1:26:47
from the bad men out there, about being the man with the biggest count
1:26:53
of all of the all the pokemon that you have to collect, Like I
1:26:56
have a transman friend, I have a trans woman friend, I have a
1:27:00
black woman friend. I got all the pokemon. I'm the big man on
1:27:03
campus, I got all the different varieties and flavor of woman who's a friend
1:27:09
of mine, you know. And then the other dude who's like everything,
1:27:12
every virtue I have has nothing to do with my masculinity. It is purely
1:27:16
me, as the singular individual who strides upon this earth as a colossus.
1:27:23
How dare how dare you say that that might be a masculine virtue and not
1:27:27
my individual virtue, you know. And I'm like watching these men on the
1:27:31
feminist side, all strutting around in their little boxes. And then I'm watching
1:27:38
the anti feminist men saying, let's talk about how to support each other,
1:27:43
how to recognize the issues that men face and make it so that we together
1:27:47
we do something better from it. I'm like, really, you think the
1:27:50
feminist men are the ones breaking out of the man box? Seriously, because
1:27:57
they aren't. And that's what's a freaking hilarious about all of this, all
1:28:00
of this that I see that we are continuing to go with the same gender
1:28:06
roles, the same expectation that men serve women's well being. And we see
1:28:13
this right here in this story. Guess who mattered in this story. It
1:28:17
wasn't the boy who commits suicide because he was being bullied, because after a
1:28:21
false accusation. It was to make sure that a girl wasn't being hurt.
1:28:26
And that's it. Once they make sure the girl wasn't being hurt, well,
1:28:29
who gives a fuck about the boy? Let him suffer. I mean,
1:28:32
this is so creaking cruel, it's an What would it have cost them
1:28:39
to simply say yeah, this is oh, I know what it would have
1:28:42
cost them? Probably the girl would have raised a stink wouldn't she, But
1:28:46
what would it really genuinely have cost them to simply say, yeah, these
1:28:53
allegations were investigated, they were completely false. All right. Stop stop pestering
1:28:58
this boy about this issue, or even to tell his parents. You know,
1:29:02
we don't want to deal with this shit. Take your kid out,
1:29:04
take him to a different school, and we will tell everybody it's false.
1:29:09
But you know, just go find another place to be. I mean,
1:29:13
even the worst thing about it is they could have could have done that and
1:29:18
the students would have continued to bully him unless they mandated a stop to the
1:29:24
bullying and penalized it. Because you can exonerate a guy, right. This
1:29:29
is something I try to explain on Twitter a while back, and people took
1:29:31
it wrong. There is no such thing as proven innocent. You can say
1:29:36
guilty until proven innocent, but there is no such thing as proven innocent.
1:29:41
There's really no such thing in the court system has proven guilty either because not
1:29:45
all the evidence gets watched, not all the evidence gets used in the court
1:29:49
system. It gets thrown out by judges all the time, whether it's exculpatory
1:29:55
or potentially guilt imposing. And so when you see a result, when there's
1:30:00
been an investigation by authorities, and this is any authority, you know that
1:30:05
result is colored or affected. The outcome is affected by the biases of the
1:30:13
authority in question, whether it's a judge, a school principle, a teacher,
1:30:16
a parent, a boss. So if you have strong opinions about that
1:30:24
question, the thing that's being investigated, you might look at the boss and
1:30:29
think, well, they're biases led them to this conclusion, but I disagree
1:30:32
with it. And to you, if the person was guilty and they were
1:30:36
exonerated, well that exoneration was false. Or if they're exonerated in your mind,
1:30:46
but the authority decided they were guilty, you're like, well they've been
1:30:49
wrongfully convicted, right, And you might be right or you might be wrong,
1:30:55
but your opinion's not going to change regardless, And it's it's one of
1:31:00
the reasons false allegations are so serious, no matter what comes out in regard
1:31:05
to the allegation, no matter how much you prove to the authority who is
1:31:13
dealing with the case that the allegation is false, right if it is,
1:31:16
if you're one exonerated, undeniable concrete proof proof that the authority looks at and
1:31:26
says like, I can't question this, this is absolute. This person is
1:31:30
innocent. There will still be people who presume you guilty. And the only
1:31:39
way to prevent that is to treat allegations as so serious that when somebody lies,
1:31:47
they have to be penalized for it. They have. It has to
1:31:49
be taken seriously. It has to be treated as a form of abuse and
1:31:54
a crime, right so that it becomes rare. It becomes as rare as
1:32:00
feminists claim it is, even if it's a teenage girl, especially considering they're
1:32:03
apparently more sexually mature than teenage boys, especially if it's a teenage girl,
1:32:09
because if you don't she learns that she can get away with that. Right,
1:32:16
There has to be repercussions. When a fourteen year old lies and says
1:32:23
a boy did something to her that he didn't do, she has to go
1:32:28
through something, some sort of repercussions and some sort of reform, some sort
1:32:33
of therapy, some sort of rehabilitation process, so that by the end of
1:32:41
it she understands that a if she does that again, the book's going to
1:32:46
get thrown at her and be exactly why why it should, So that she
1:32:54
doesn't do it again. If a five year old this happened in my neighborhood,
1:33:00
I guess eight years old, but goes to the police and says,
1:33:05
I was late getting home from the park because two men in a white car
1:33:13
tried to get me to get into their car, and I ran away and
1:33:15
hit for a long time until they were gone, and then went home and
1:33:19
there was no car and no two men. And she gives descriptions in everything.
1:33:26
When it comes out that she lied, she should go through some sort
1:33:32
of reformation process. She should have some sort of training therapy to make her
1:33:39
understand the gravity of what she did and what the repercussions will be the next
1:33:45
time she does it, and why she should never ever do it again.
1:33:48
While she's young enough that it's not serious for her to get in trouble,
1:33:54
and old enough that she can have instilled in her the lesson do not do
1:33:59
this. You are dropping a nuclear bomb on your society when you do this,
1:34:04
in your environment where you live and the people you love live. We
1:34:11
have a sex offenders Register for a reason. It's it's a reason that can
1:34:16
be abused now. But if we're in a situation where thirteen year olds could
1:34:21
get put on that register for exchanging like mobile phone pictures of their genitals.
1:34:30
Then maybe a seventeen year old girl can get put on that register by falsely
1:34:34
accusing a seventeen year old boy of raping and ruining his life. We can
1:34:42
argue about either of those cases either way. But let's let's if if we're
1:34:48
going to talk about things in terms of equality, yeah, we're going to
1:34:51
have the other let's narrow down on exactly where this equality should begin and end.
1:35:00
Yeah, I agree, I agree very much, And you know you
1:35:03
look at this story. I'm gonna I'm gonna read a little more. Um,
1:35:08
We're gonna stop here shortly because we got to get into the after show.
1:35:12
But um, and I have something more. I have something weird for
1:35:15
the after show. Um, just to be kind of not exactly lighthearted,
1:35:20
but to laugh at women's logic a little bit, because I'm gonna have to
1:35:27
blow off steam after this. Um, because you know I've I've sat and
1:35:31
watched friends go through this. And before I read, I'm gonna point out
1:35:36
when I say getting upset about a false allegation doesn't make you crazy, I'm
1:35:44
saying the act of getting upset is not crazy. It doesn't mean that you
1:35:48
don't go through mental health issues. I sat and with seven years and hell
1:35:54
guy's wife and watched him after one time, coming home from being called in
1:36:01
for questioning for twelve hours on a false allegation and held in a jail cell
1:36:08
with real criminals and hearing lies and having them try to drum lies into his
1:36:14
head about himself. You did this, just admit it. Right, came
1:36:18
home and went through the table in his head of prime numbers and squares and
1:36:28
square roots, and you know, finally calmed down and explained he needed to
1:36:36
put something process, something to his brain that was tangibly real information that he
1:36:44
knew, concrete information that couldn't be questioned. It's why I get so upset
1:36:49
when people try to come up with excuses for why two plus two can equal
1:36:54
five. No, it can't, You're full of shit. Shut the fuck
1:36:57
up. Numbers are real. Numbers were the thing that kept him from completely
1:37:02
losing his mind that day. Right, And he's not crazy for being upset.
1:37:13
But being upset can make you feel crazy. It can drive you nuts,
1:37:16
It can make you suicidal. It can make you feel like you need
1:37:20
to be in a strait jacket. It can make you sit in a corner
1:37:26
in the hallway of your home on the floor and count so that you have
1:37:32
something real that you can talk about after twelve hours of being having unreality forced
1:37:40
down your throat. And before before we get any angry responses, I should
1:37:48
clarify, numbers aren't real. They are an abstraction or a symbolic abstraction that
1:37:54
humans came up with to represent the quantities in reality. What those quantities and
1:38:00
reality are real. So if two is real, then four is real.
1:38:03
Therefore two plus two does equal fall. Sorry, yeah, but that makes
1:38:08
numbers real. Um, language is real. It's an abstraction, but it's
1:38:13
a real abstraction. You know, when I when I describe the word desk
1:38:16
in a way, I use the word desk and you get a mental image
1:38:20
of what I'm talking about. It doesn't have to be the desk that I've
1:38:24
got my hand on right now. In that sense, numbers, numbers are
1:38:28
more real than a desk. Yeah, you can. It's difficult to define
1:38:31
what a desk is. It's very very easy to define what a two is
1:38:35
exactly. You will picture a desk, though, when I when I say
1:38:40
that, if you speak English and I say desk. You will picture a
1:38:43
desk. You will know what I'm talking about. I would have to describe
1:38:45
the desk further with adjectives and uh, you know, full sentences and so
1:38:51
on for you to understand what the desk under my hand looks like. But
1:38:57
you now have an image, mental image of me having my hand on a
1:39:00
flat surface, because the top of a desk usually has a flat surface.
1:39:05
Just from that. When I say the number two, you picture the number
1:39:11
two. And you you know, if I say two apples, you picture
1:39:15
two apples. You might picture two rat apples or two green apples or whatever,
1:39:18
but you picture two apples. You don't picture seven or eight apples or
1:39:23
twenty seven apples. That's real, that's concrete, that's solid. Taking away
1:39:30
somebody's reality is how torturers dissolve the boundaries in a person's brain that prevent them
1:39:43
from sharing information that they want to keep from for themselves. Right. It's
1:39:47
how they dissolve the boundaries in a person's brain that keeps them from making their
1:39:54
making their choices based on what you want instead of what they want. It's
1:40:00
how they enslave people, and it's how they drive people to suicide, it's
1:40:04
used in war to get enemy soldiers to share information that will lead to the
1:40:11
deaths of their comrades, or to go kill those comrades. But uh,
1:40:18
but yeah, you know, to subject a seventeen year old to it,
1:40:23
no big deal. It's only deadly right, And that's this this uh,
1:40:31
this article. The reason this article pissed me off so badly is because of
1:40:34
how blase the school was about this. And I'm really glad that the writer
1:40:42
used the word bullying to describe making a false allegation, because that is our
1:40:45
code for abuse when we're talking about children doing it. We don't talk about
1:40:51
abuse as abuse. When children do it, we say bullying. But and
1:40:57
the mom, when she talked to the media, she got some things and
1:41:02
she missed some things, but one thing that she really understood. He had
1:41:05
to escape the pain from the humiliation he was feeling. That is why her
1:41:12
son killed himself. It wasn't just because people were shoving unreality unreality at him.
1:41:18
It wasn't just because he was hearing about this over and over again.
1:41:23
Being accused of something that you would never do, something reprehensible, something socially
1:41:30
unacceptable, something that is a social taboo, is humiliating. It challenges your
1:41:38
identity. We hear about people getting suicidal, becoming suicidal because their gender dysphoria
1:41:45
goes unconsidered. This boy's dysphoria was he was accused of something he did not
1:41:55
do, and he was humiliated that people thought he did it. He was
1:42:00
humiliated by being treated as someone he was not. That's very serious. If
1:42:08
you accept that people kill themselves because you think they're a man and they think
1:42:14
they're a woman, then you have to accept that it is deadly to over
1:42:19
and over again tell an innocent person you rape that girl. Yeah, it's
1:42:28
a step in the right direction to at least finally call this bullying rather than
1:42:31
calling it nothing at all, or rather rather than just calling it a false
1:42:36
accusation, even though that's that's an accurate description of what it is. I
1:42:43
mean, the right description would be abuse. When it comes to seventeen year
1:42:46
olds, there's no good reason to apply it with euphemisms such as bullying.
1:42:54
It's very much abuse. The only question is how young a person can be.
1:43:01
But before we can no longer justify calling it abuse, and I guess,
1:43:08
well, well that's a discussion for another day, and and another discussion
1:43:12
would be, at what point when a female teacher rapes a student, we
1:43:17
stopped calling it seduction. Yeah, that's yeah another sorry for another day,
1:43:24
which at some point I'm gonna go over. Well, there's um, there's
1:43:29
a big list of teachers in Canada, there's somewhere. I had a similar
1:43:36
list of teachers in the United States and it seems to have been taken down.
1:43:42
But big list of five hundred teachers that were convicted. I know there's
1:43:45
at least two or three here in the Dayton metro area that I've read about
1:43:47
in the last ten years. I know there's more than that, But that's
1:43:54
going to have to be a different show altogether, because this is getting We're
1:43:59
going along on, but it goes on. The school explained how after a
1:44:06
student who previously had been a discipline for bullying, Jack was expelled for an
1:44:12
unrelated violation of school rules. Jack was allowed to return to the school,
1:44:16
but was left largely unsupervised where students gathered, so they didn't even do anything
1:44:24
to mitigate the bullying. Some harsh words were said about Jack, the school
1:44:30
revealed, adding that administrators did not notify or check on Jack once he was
1:44:35
back on campus. Later that night, Jack, who was a Dean's List
1:44:41
student, took his own life, telling a friend that he could not go
1:44:44
through the ordeal again. He had a Bible in one of his gem shorts,
1:44:48
as well as a note directing his parents to a Google document in which
1:44:51
he described as helplessness. And I'm not gonna I'm not going to read the
1:45:00
school statements because we don't don't have the time. But it's away. Yeah,
1:45:11
it's all just basically, but I will point out, you know,
1:45:17
they said again, we acknowledge that more should have been done to protect Jack.
1:45:21
More than what nothing was done to protect. More than nothing is very
1:45:28
little, right. More than nothing isn't enough. It's not just more to
1:45:32
protect Jack. More should have been done to hold the accuser accountable. They
1:45:40
can protect all of the future Jacks by holding I don't know what a real
1:45:45
name is, but I'm going to use Jill because people will remember that because
1:45:49
of Jack and Jill, more should have been done to Jill to perfect protect
1:45:58
all the future Jacks. Following is suicide, the board's trustees hired a law
1:46:03
firm to investigate the circumstances surrounding his death. The investigation that it's good that
1:46:11
they had an outside investigation, but for Pete's sake, a law firm.
1:46:14
The investigation included at interviews with forty five students, faculty members, and others,
1:46:17
together with a review of more than a hundred emails from students in school
1:46:21
personnel, Jack's personal emails, phone records, text messages, and internet searches.
1:46:29
We said from the beginning, let's seek the truth and follow it where
1:46:30
it leads us. Period. Stephen S. Murray, Lawrenceville's head of school,
1:46:35
said to The New York Times, and that's what we've tried to do
1:46:39
every step of the way. He added, this happened on my watch,
1:46:43
and I'm grief stricken, and yet I can't begin to compare that to the
1:46:46
grief and sorrow of Bill and Elizabeth Read. The schools say they are to
1:46:54
introduce meaningful changes that will support the school's aspirations of becoming a model for anti
1:46:59
bullying and student mental health. The settlement agreement in the school's admission of responsibility
1:47:03
are aimed at honoring Jack, taking appropriate responsibility, and instituting meaningful changes that
1:47:10
will help prevent something similar from happening again. The admission by Lawrenceville school is
1:47:16
particularly rare, with educational establishments not usually publicly accepting responsibility after a suicide,
1:47:24
is it, Yeah, they don't usually they usually they will do anything they
1:47:29
can to avoid admitting responsibility. Um, it's it's rare, and it is
1:47:35
a baby step, but it doesn't it doesn't excuse like they shouldn't have been
1:47:42
responsible in the first place. And I don't want to. I don't know.
1:47:47
This is what I was saying earlier, Like there's affair. There's an
1:47:51
increasingly large amount of suicides among young people and teenages, and one can only
1:48:00
assume a great deal of them quote unquote, we don't know why. One
1:48:08
has to wonder how many of them are because of shit like this, how
1:48:11
many of them are simply because what the hell are people telling boys and girls?
1:48:17
Girls? You're oppressed? And the other thing is if you if you
1:48:21
understand human instincts, because I've sort of had this drilled into my head over
1:48:26
the years and years and years of adducated for these issues and coming up against
1:48:30
this wall, I'm hitting my head against this brick wall, and I've had
1:48:33
to realize that part of what we're hitting our head against is the fact that
1:48:39
men see themselves see their positive identity in terms of protecting and providing for women.
1:48:45
That's that's how men feel like they are men, and that's instinctual,
1:48:50
and I mean it makes perfect sense because human women are not independent in the
1:48:56
way other female mammals are. Like I say this on the other shows.
1:49:00
You look at a female tiger. If a female human was like a female
1:49:03
tiger, she could operate on the level of a navy seal, kill Obama
1:49:08
bin Laden, give birth on the same day and then just continue on.
1:49:14
That's that's the way that a lot of female mammals are. They're very independent.
1:49:18
They do not need, they do not need the level of provision and
1:49:24
protection that human females do. There's no female animal on the planet that needs
1:49:29
more. And what a surprise that around the species in which the female animal
1:49:34
needs so much provision and protection. What do we see all of this provision
1:49:41
and protection in the form of a society. Where does it come from?
1:49:45
It comes from our instincts. It comes from men's instinct to provide and protect
1:49:47
for women. And you know that's that's the reality exploitation of those instincts,
1:49:53
because those instincts don't don't the instinct to do it isn't the instinct to form
1:49:59
your identity around it. And I think the way women control society, they
1:50:04
have orchestrated that that as an identity thing and not. I agree the instinct
1:50:13
is there um and I've I've had experiences that I can't talk about because I
1:50:16
would be giving somebody's medical information away that that confirm for me that it is
1:50:23
instinctive. Men have a strong protective instinct and a strong caring instinct toward women.
1:50:30
Women used to at least reciprocate that, and you know they don't now.
1:50:36
So I don't think it's I don't think as an identity it's an instinct,
1:50:42
but I think as a behavior it's an instinct. And it's important to
1:50:45
differentiate because there's a level of ginnocentrism that we have hit in our society that
1:50:51
we must never treat as inevitable and irreversible. And I'm not don't think I'm
1:50:59
treating it a centrism that leads to this kind of thing. I'm not trying
1:51:03
to treat it as inevitable or no. I just want it to be clear
1:51:08
because people will There are people that are arguing natural kind of centrism within the
1:51:14
men's rights movement and the greater anti feminist movement that will use any statement about
1:51:21
natural that. Well, here's the other thing even talking about to justify that.
1:51:28
Even if men are vulnerable to women making their identity in this way,
1:51:34
and I would argue that they are, and feminists prove that that does not
1:51:39
mean that women should be taking advantage of it. Even if we say men
1:51:46
have a vulnerability because of these instincts, they orientate their sense of morality around
1:51:54
protecting and providing women, which is fundamentally a part of your identity, what
1:51:58
you think is moral. That does not mean that women then have the right
1:52:02
to exploit it to the detriment of everyone around them a sign of immaturity.
1:52:11
Um, your walking card should be taken away. You're just a little girl
1:52:15
if you exploit it. Okay, But my overall point is recognizing these instincts.
1:52:20
In fact, I think I've lost a bit of more Where I was
1:52:23
going with this? Um? Where were we? Where did this start?
1:52:28
Recognizing these instincts? All right, I'm sorry, I can't. I will
1:52:33
try to get back to where I was going with us. We were talking
1:52:36
about you were talking about the difference between other mammals and women and how um
1:52:43
okay, all right, but here's the thing, and here's where it gets
1:52:45
into exploitation and terrorization of women. Okay, there's one thing to say,
1:52:54
all right, um, that this isn't something that's acceptable. It's another thing
1:52:58
to say to women who are reliant, because there are two sides to this.
1:53:03
There are men who are reliant, whether or not it's moral, I'm
1:53:08
just saying it isn't is not an at who are reliant on the idea that
1:53:12
they're protecting and providing for women in order to generate a positive sense of their
1:53:15
self. And then there are men women who are reliant on the idea that
1:53:19
they are being protected and provided for by men to have a sense of comfort
1:53:25
in their world. Now, I would say that these two things exist because
1:53:30
men women are very reliant, like human women are are reliant in a way
1:53:34
that no other animal is, which would tend to create a psychology that's dependent
1:53:40
on that reliance on men. And what do you do. You march into
1:53:45
that and you tell girls and women who have that psychological dependence and that's not
1:53:51
necessarily that's it is none or not that the people they are dependent on them,
1:53:56
hate them, are at war with them, one to destroy them and
1:54:00
make them suffer in the most animalistic and barbaric ways. You say that,
1:54:08
and that is a recipe for one misery in women's lives, Like there's a
1:54:15
churning, ugly vicious misery will come out of that. And when we talk
1:54:21
about the suicide of young people, maybe we should look at the messaging we're
1:54:27
giving girls, because girls are catching up, not very slowly. The men
1:54:30
are still way out ahead, but apparently in the last two or three years
1:54:34
a teenage girls in particular have surged ahead in suicide statistics. You know,
1:54:43
maybe we should look at what we're saying to girls and boys about a very
1:54:47
essential part of their identity, which is their sexuality and their gender. Okay,
1:54:53
maybe we should stop telling girls that the people they are instinctually primed to
1:54:58
rely on buys their very being and want to annihilate them while raping them to
1:55:03
death. And maybe we should tell boys who are instinctually primed on um regarding
1:55:10
their sense of self worth in terms of how they benefit and protect and provide
1:55:14
for women, that what they want to do secretly is rape women to death.
1:55:18
You know, just pop out an eyeball of a woman and just rape
1:55:23
the socket until she bleeds to death. There's something horrific. Shit, you
1:55:26
know, I know that's a very vicious image. But this is the kind
1:55:29
of crap we are telling, slight hyperbole, slight dark humor, hyper I
1:55:33
don't know if humor is the right word. Slight dark hyperbole. Okay,
1:55:40
this is the kind of crap we're telling. Boys and girls. And then
1:55:43
we step back and we're like, why are they killing themselves? How could
1:55:47
this be? Where is this coming from? Why don't they want to identify
1:55:54
as boys and girls? Why is there all this this function? Really?
1:56:00
And the funny thing is is that conservatives do not want to look at the
1:56:03
eye of this storm. They don't want to call out where it's coming from.
1:56:09
It's coming from this, and it's in a deeper sense. It's not
1:56:13
just coming from the feminist The deeper thing that it's coming from is the condemnation
1:56:18
of male sexuality that is in conservatism. I'm not saying you can't be Christian,
1:56:25
but it's there that that condemnation, that belief in male sexual sin relative
1:56:31
to female sexuality is right there, and you need to challenge it at its
1:56:36
source. You need to stop it there, because we're now in a position
1:56:42
where the cultural expectations of Christianity sort of not around anymore. So we're left
1:56:50
with the condemnation of male sexuality, and the only way to get out of
1:56:59
this trap is to not doing it. Here's the thing, from what I
1:57:02
can tell from human history. We exist in the world that we do,
1:57:08
in the comfort that we do, in the peace and prosperity that we do,
1:57:12
because of male sexuality, not in spite of it. Because of it.
1:57:18
We should be thankful for the sexuality that human men have, because it's
1:57:24
a sexuality in which they provide and protect. They build houses, they build
1:57:29
societies, they build infrastructure and utilities to make sure that men and women,
1:57:34
men and other are sorry, women and other men and the vulnerable members of
1:57:39
a society are protected. For that is an essential component of men's sexuality and
1:57:45
reproductive instincts, and we should celebrate it, we should recognize it, and
1:57:48
we should never condemn it as somehow sinful or a vector of sin in any
1:57:55
context. Into the human race is why we're here, it's why we're having
1:58:01
these discussions. It's why we have language, it's why we have everything.
1:58:09
You really think that male tigers are going to construct a society for a female
1:58:13
tiger that can do everything for herself. No, and furthermore, do you
1:58:19
really think there's going to be this codependence in which are interdependence in which women
1:58:26
are doing their own contributions that aren't just about survival. That's the big thing.
1:58:31
You know what we're women doing. When men took on the role of
1:58:34
provision and protection and establishing a social cooperation that keeps the lions and bears up
1:58:41
bay, they were weaving and creating pottery and doing the first stirrings of agriculture.
1:58:48
You know, this has been a co produced effort throughout the millennia.
1:58:54
And it starts with male sexuality being something worse, celebrating and not condemning.
1:59:00
And this is this whole situation with this boy, that we are so keyed
1:59:06
to condemn male sexuality, to just accept the idea that men should live under
1:59:13
this condemnation, this hatred, this abrogation, or however you say that fucking
1:59:19
word of male sexuality, and that when a boy is charged with the most
1:59:25
horrific crime, and it is the most horrific crime, you know, the
1:59:29
human mind boggles at rape there's nobody who really thinks that rape is good.
1:59:33
Even rapists don't think rape is good. They're just so fucked up that these
1:59:36
compulsions around it. Okay, nobody likes it. It is the worst crime.
1:59:42
It is the irredeemable crime in our society. And we are okay with
1:59:47
leveling that at a boy an innocent because we have this attitude that all men
1:59:56
are foul, all men are rapists. So who who cares if he has
2:00:00
to deal with just a little bit more of what he should already be dealing
2:00:03
with because he's a man? Fuck that? Okay, I've gotten a little
2:00:10
face to me. Well, I can't blame you for that, but I
2:00:12
and I would point out not only did they think it was okay to just
2:00:16
level it at him, they didn't expect it to affect him. Can you
2:00:23
imagine that we're just gonna call you the worst thing that you can be called,
2:00:28
you know, like the second worst thing, because we're not accusing him.
2:00:30
He wasn't accused of pedophilia, but the second worst thing you can be
2:00:35
called, and it's not supposed to have any impact on you at all.
2:00:43
You shouldn't care? Why not? Why shouldn't he care. Why shouldn't he
2:00:53
be profoundly disturbed by it? Why should they not have expected him would be
2:01:00
not just upset, but devastated, angry, scared, driven a little nuts
2:01:09
and considering suicide looking for a way to escape. Why would that not occur
2:01:16
to you? Maybe if you didn't value somebody because of his gender, Maybe
2:01:24
if you had no compassion because of his gender, Like, maybe that might
2:01:29
be why, oh, Mike, did you start to say something? Yeah,
2:01:39
someone inspired by Allison's rn UM. I mean, we are we're we're
2:01:43
living in a future that has resulted from centuries I mean, if not millennia
2:01:51
of this kind of centrism, of this pressing on men to innovate. And
2:02:00
and it's very much a double edged sword. Yeah, you might say that
2:02:06
it's as a result of these of centuries of this. Do we even have
2:02:15
the ability for for you and I, for I own you two to be
2:02:18
talking to each other, for this space age ability to communicate, to to
2:02:25
get ideas across to other to other people at light speed at other ends of
2:02:30
the universe, and and and so yes, maybe this wouldn't have happened if
2:02:38
that didn't happen. But the other edge of the sword is the wars,
2:02:44
the wars that have been happening since a hundred years ago. And you might
2:02:48
say all of this is a result of sharpening um, the masculine need,
2:03:00
the masculine desire, the masculine responsibility to make life better for everyone. And
2:03:08
it results in miraculous developments in science and technology, and it also develop also
2:03:16
results in unspeakably hideous acts of war. And I guess it's it's up to
2:03:30
generations like us, and generations long since before us. We should have figured
2:03:33
this out a long time ago. How how to figure out how to bring
2:03:36
out this this male desire to protect people in ways that can do all the
2:03:47
all the things that make our lives better without bringing out all the things that
2:03:51
make our lives worse. And that's easier said than done, I suppose.
2:03:57
But what we're trying to do on this channel, what we, what us
2:04:00
small band of bleeding hearts and artists have been trying to do for the last
2:04:04
ten years, is to get across that there is an alternative present that we
2:04:11
could be living in right now, where where men have been pressed to to
2:04:17
give us all all these technological advances without you know, warring against each other.
2:04:28
In the ways that we've continued to do so. And it's difficult to
2:04:30
get this across without sounding like some fucking commie. Where we can all where
2:04:40
we can all live live as one in harmony, as a one world government,
2:04:45
because that totally won't go wrong. But I think it's just the simple
2:04:50
assertion that if you there's nothing that goes, there's nothing bad about bringing more
2:04:58
love and consideration into the world. Yeah, men are sorely in need of
2:05:01
it. Yeah, And maybe maybe maybe the good has come from that and
2:05:08
the bad has come from I've reduced everything to good and bad as I try
2:05:13
to try to try to tell myself not to do. But yeah, it
2:05:18
to some degree we have, um, we have liberated men and women to
2:05:26
some degree in in the past few centuries. And perhaps the liberation that we've
2:05:30
given to men has has given us all these advances that have made our lives
2:05:34
so much more invigorating and dare I say easier. But but the chickens have
2:05:43
come home to roost with with regards to to the to the obligations we've put
2:05:50
on men at the same time, and I guess you can't swap the present
2:05:58
for a different present. But we're at a point where we can where we
2:06:01
can change the future. And it involves and it involves giving men all of
2:06:09
these all of these acceptances, like like they're allowed to to be themselves for
2:06:15
the for their own sake. Like a lot of these advantages have come from
2:06:20
men being allowed to be themselves to their own sake. Like aeroplanes were invented
2:06:26
because the right brothers didn't marry the computer. The computer was invented because Alan
2:06:32
Turing wasn't all that interested in pleasing women, Like a lot a lot of
2:06:38
these things have come about because men were allowed to to just work on their
2:06:44
passions and until the government castrated them for loving men for for one reason or
2:06:53
another. Yeah, do electricity. If we could, just if we could,
2:06:58
just if we could just slept, men be men, you'd be surprised
2:07:03
what kind of things can happen in our future. Like like like we've almost
2:07:09
allowed to happen up to up to but not including a point in the past
2:07:14
couple of centuries, like we've we've had half of the right idea, but
2:07:18
the other half of the idea is is in it's an awful danger of of
2:07:27
of being the part of the idea that destroys us all. So we're on
2:07:30
an eyefetch. I mean, you know this already, all of you know
2:07:32
this right reachingto the crowd, I know. And and feminists have attacked the
2:07:36
idea of letting men be themselves for the sake of being themselves with their whole
2:07:42
narrative about boys being boys. Oh, boys will be boys is an excuse
2:07:45
for rape, It's not. It's it's an excuse to allow boys to figure
2:07:50
themselves out without having a bunch of females around yelling at them for having too
2:07:58
much rough and tumble play and being too curious about things that girls think are
2:08:01
gross. So so there you go. Um, I'm gonna call the end
2:08:07
of the show because it's after it's half fifteen minutes, almost past when we
2:08:11
should have ended. But I will I will leave you with this. When
2:08:20
feminists lie about masculinity, when feminists lie about the level of compassion men and
2:08:31
boys deserve when they are mistreated, and when feminists lie about the impact of
2:08:37
abuse faced by men and boys at the hands of women and girls who lie
2:08:41
about them, the result is that we lose the men and boys that we
2:08:48
love in our lives to suicide or to murder, right, That's that's an
2:08:56
undeniable fact. There are stories like this about boys and men who have been
2:09:01
murdered by other boys and men on false allegations, and there are stories like
2:09:05
this about boys and men who have committed suicide on false allegations. And until
2:09:11
we can admit as a society that leveling a false allegation is abuse, that
2:09:18
it has absolutely nothing to do with victims of the crime, that you're you're
2:09:22
exploiting in your false allegation, and that it is something for which the accuser
2:09:28
should be held accountable, we will continue to lose good men and good boys
2:09:37
to bad lies. That should be enough to motivate society to do something about
2:09:45
this, even if they don't have any compassion, even if they don't care
2:09:48
about the feelings of the men and boys involved, because they're all valuable.
2:09:56
But we'll see. I hope school in their bullying prevention system that they come
2:10:05
up with, I hope they take that seriously. But I'm not going to
2:10:09
hold my breath, and we're going to have to keep pushing and discussing this
2:10:16
online, discussing it in public with people, and discussing it among friends and
2:10:20
families. This kind of discussion moves the overton window on these topics to what
2:10:28
people will and won't accept. That makes it more and more acceptable to criticize
2:10:35
false accusers and more and more unacceptable to be one. So that's what I'm
2:10:39
going to leave you with tonight. You can't just listen to us do it.
2:10:45
If you want to see less of this kind of news story, then
2:10:52
you need to hold the people around you accountable, the people that you talk
2:10:56
to on social media, of people in your life, for recognizing that if
2:11:03
someone levels a false allegation and then they encourage sustained bullying, sustained abuse by
2:11:11
their community in response to their false allegation, and the person that they accused
2:11:18
commits suicide, they drove him to it. It was not an accident.
2:11:24
They have guilty mind, and they are a murderer. She is a murderer.
2:11:31
The girl that accused this boy murdered him. Negligent homicide at the very
2:11:39
least, if that's still a thing in her state. Here's the thing.
2:11:45
If you engage in a course of action that leads to somebody's death, they
2:11:52
don't have to prove that you intended for the person to die. They only
2:11:54
have to prove that you premeditated the course of action that was intended to do
2:12:03
damage. So if you beat somebody to death and you planned to beat that
2:12:07
person up and they die, you can get charged with murder even if you
2:12:13
say I didn't intend for him to die. So there you go. That's
2:12:18
what I by negligent homicide. Yeah, but that's a different charge. Negligent
2:12:22
homicide is a different charge from murder. Murder is specific, and I use
2:12:26
the word murder very seriously. Here. She meant for this boy to suffer.
2:12:31
You mean for somebody to suffer when you do this to them. He
2:12:35
suffered to death. Whether she meant for death to be the result or not,
2:12:39
she's a murderer because no, it's not negligent because she made him suffer
2:12:46
on purpose. If you shoot somebody and you just meant to hurt them,
2:12:54
but you hit a hit a artery or or a vein that goes to the
2:13:00
heart or goes from the heart, you're still a murderer. Like that's it,
2:13:07
and the state is an accessory to that murder. Maybe they can be
2:13:11
held accountable too, ay I wish, But that's the thing we need to
2:13:15
get people to understand this. This is not the gravity of this is much
2:13:18
much deeper than people really understand. So that's what I want to get across.
2:13:24
It's our job. When I say our, I mean everybody listening to
2:13:28
this and us. It's our job as a movement to get our society to
2:13:33
understand these things, one person at a time, one conversation at a time,
2:13:37
one social media argument at a time. So that's your homework for the
2:13:43
week. Obviously it's ongoing forever until until people act on this, until things
2:13:48
change. So there you go. In the meantime, I don't think we
2:13:54
got any super chats. I will look in the super chose I s get
2:14:00
this part because I can't find I never can find the damn thing there.
2:14:05
It is super Chow channel, and we we always have super chows. So
2:14:11
all right, I can go back to where it says done, HBr talk
2:14:18
to fifty nine. That's us five dollars from Meredith g says, honey for
2:14:22
the Badgers, thanks for the thought provoking discussion. Michael Emrich what Windberg gave
2:14:28
us fifteen dollars and said, the most infuriating thing about this is the halfwits
2:14:31
who crawl out of the woodwork to talk about how this only hurts real victims
2:14:35
of rape. It doesn't hurt real victims of rape at all. I mean,
2:14:41
Jack was the real victim of rape. If anything, no rape occurred.
2:14:46
Yes, is the victim of rape posteria. So that's the closest thing
2:14:52
to anything that counts. And Michael goes on to say, no, they
2:14:54
hurt the victims of the allegation, which is worse than any rape. And
2:15:00
he's right, it is the as the allegation goes on forever, even if
2:15:05
proven false or withdrawn, start with a core effect on these or these accusations,
2:15:09
or this ship is never going to turn away from the abyss. I
2:15:13
know this may be a mean thing to say, but at least rape ends
2:15:18
after a few minutes, or at least it ends after the crime stops.
2:15:22
I will say that, And you're right, A false allegation goes on forever,
2:15:28
and even people who know you're innocent will mistreat you like I. It
2:15:35
doesn't even have to be a big allegation. I mean, I was false
2:15:39
falsely accused of a misdemeanor. As as I've talked about this before, I
2:15:46
was assaulted by another woman and in my course of trying to exit the fight
2:15:54
and not participate in it, like just struggling to get out of there that
2:16:00
was considered fighting, being an equal fighter, And even though I did nothing
2:16:07
in an attempt to hurt her, because if I had, I'm not very
2:16:13
good at mitigating the damage. If I'm in a fight and I fight in
2:16:20
earnest, I don't have that level of skill. There's a lot of people
2:16:24
that do have that level of skill. They can hit you hard enough to
2:16:28
make you want to stop hitting them without breaking bones or or doing organ damage
2:16:35
or anything like that. I'm not as good at that as they are,
2:16:41
and I'm not good at stopping when I should stop. Once I let myself
2:16:43
get into that mentality, so I don't fight. I mean, I'm adults,
2:16:48
so I try not to fight anyway. Like you don't do that after
2:16:52
you grow out of that by the time you hit the age of majority,
2:16:56
unless there's something wrong with you. Right, that's in my opinion in any
2:17:00
way, But those of us who have the option of getting ship off our
2:17:05
chest on the internet to an audience of hundreds at least half the option anyone
2:17:11
out there listening to us he doesn't have this option, please please do speak
2:17:15
out, talk to us in the comments. I don't often say this,
2:17:18
but please do leave a comment if you've if you've never had the option of
2:17:22
getting this shut off your chest. Yeah, we're right here for you if
2:17:26
you feel like doing that. Yeah, you know. And I've been candid
2:17:31
about having been a rape victim too, And I will say this, just
2:17:35
being accused of a misdemeanor, the disorderly conduct for trying to escape a fight
2:17:43
that I didn't want to have. Um that was as traumatics as being held
2:17:52
down, wrestled into submission and raped because I was led about and people believed
2:17:58
it. People thought I was violent on purpose, and people treated me like
2:18:07
I was confrontational and dangerous. And I don't know how to explain it,
2:18:13
but people took in a way of doing that It's like taking away some of
2:18:20
my identity that is not me that they were talking about, but they were
2:18:22
identifying me as that person that wasn't me. And that was just a very
2:18:28
minor thing that if I had not been exonerated, had not been had that
2:18:35
removed from any record, it would have been gone in six months. Right,
2:18:41
That's a bump in the road. I can't imagine getting accused of raping
2:18:46
someone like I can understand completely why seven years and held guy sat in a
2:18:54
corner in the hallway of his house, in front of his bedroom and spouted
2:19:01
off numbers and mathematics to have something concrete, because having somebody do that to
2:19:07
you make you out to be somebody that you're not, and try to make
2:19:11
it stick in a courtroom under the law makes you feel crazy, even though
2:19:18
you're the one telling the truth it is. It is absolutely worse. You
2:19:26
can get up and walk away after you've been assaulted. You can get up
2:19:30
and walk away after you've experienced even molestation. You know, you can move
2:19:37
on from that. There's psychological damage, but you can get help for it.
2:19:41
And it's not something like it doesn't take your identity away, Like even
2:19:48
if you have some kind of violent crime community against you, you can write
2:19:52
songs about it. I know that sounds like a frivolous thing to say,
2:19:56
but whatever happens to you, and I mean to you, how in whatever
2:20:01
way you're victimized in life, you can write songs about it. Yeah,
2:20:03
I've done that, Yeah, and you don't. You don't have to show
2:20:07
those songs to other people, but you can at least get it off your
2:20:11
chest by writing songs. But I don't imagine you can do that about about
2:20:16
being accused of right, not only because you most certainly can't publish those songs
2:20:22
so that anyone else could hear them, because it would only delateriously affect your
2:20:28
case, but because in your own head it would delateriously affect your case.
2:20:33
I would imagine, I would imagine you can't even how are you supposed to
2:20:37
write an angry song about being accused of It's not even you can't even I'm
2:20:43
having trouble even putting this into words. But because I can't even imagine it,
2:20:48
That's that's that's what's so hideous about this. You can't even imagine it
2:20:52
unless it's happened to you, which which I'm grateful for. I'm grateful that
2:20:58
I can't even imagine what it's like. I don't even want to imagine what
2:21:03
it's like, So I'll stop. It should never happen to anybody. It
2:21:05
just should never happen. Zerens gave us five dollars and said the definition of
2:21:11
ism is doctrine or theory. Feminism is the doctrine or theory of the feminine.
2:21:15
I made a super chat about this in the past, but I called
2:21:18
it an empty suit because it was mainly a placeholder for what whoever spoke as
2:21:22
a feminist. Now, I think the term feminism is actually circular statement or
2:21:28
argument. Recently, a woman said a woman shouldn't have to apologize for anything
2:21:33
she does to be acknowledged. That made me think of the letter bombing and
2:21:37
scum Manifesto, etc. So it made me think feminism equals Okay, so
2:21:45
there's a symbol in here I'm not familiar with, but gyn. I think
2:21:48
that's supposed to be slash volt or a woman wills it. And honestly,
2:21:56
it's not even all that because feminist don't tolerate non feminist ways of thinking.
2:22:03
They if you don't subscribe to that crazy conspiracy theory and make demands based on
2:22:09
it, they don't want anything to do with you, or they want to
2:22:13
take you down. So yeah, it's like the difference. It's like the
2:22:18
difference between proud of your nation and being a nationalist. But it's not even
2:22:22
like that, because you can even be a nationalist and that just means you
2:22:28
prefer your nation over other nations, but you still allow other nations and the
2:22:35
peoples of those nations to prefer their nations over your nation. That's not the
2:22:41
case with feminism. Feminism is a globalist movement which is by definition even more
2:22:50
tyrannical than any nationalism possibly could be. In the same way that nation becomes
2:22:56
nationalism, feminism becomes feminism and that and that means a global take of everything
2:23:03
based on femine. So I don't understand why all these anti nationalists are all,
2:23:11
Yeah, nationalism's awful and and and we should everyone anyone who is even
2:23:16
proud of the nations should be called Nazis. But feminism is good because that's
2:23:22
totally different. It's it's crazy people. It's the same same thing as um
2:23:28
when you when you think a source is bullshit on something that you're an expert
2:23:35
on, but then you take them at their word on something that you don't
2:23:39
know anything about. Murray Gellman. Yeah, Yeah, it's like people compartmentalize,
2:23:45
and sometimes it's good. Sometimes you can compartmentalize in ways that are healthy.
2:23:50
Um, Like being able to recognize that the living room is on fire
2:23:58
right next to this stairway you have to go up to get to your kid's
2:24:01
bedroom, and still being able to recognize that your kids are up there and
2:24:05
you want to get them out of the house, and you'll brave the fire
2:24:07
to go up there to get them out, because yes, there's a fire,
2:24:13
but my kids right. Compartmentalism works in the situations like that, but
2:24:18
it's very dysfunctional in a lot of other ones. Michael Emrick Windberg, that's
2:24:24
Emrick Windberg gave us five dollars and said, we have dealt with men's physical
2:24:30
advantage over women by the rule never hit a woman, because we know it
2:24:33
can be abused if not acknowledged, and set abuse isn't punished. Unfortunately,
2:24:39
we do not teach women to never lie about men, never lie about him
2:24:43
in because this would require acknowledging and abusable advantage women have over men. And
2:24:48
even if we did, the idea that a woman could abuse it because women's
2:24:52
virtue goes a hand in hand with women's powerlessness because her reasons. There's a
2:24:58
lot more complexity to this, and I probably need to do a show on
2:25:01
it. Um I did a video on it. But I've also learned something,
2:25:07
and not too long ago, just from an experience of a person who
2:25:11
had no reason whatsoever to understand never hit a woman. As a taboo,
2:25:18
and I like, I've watched a person in that condition respond to thinking that
2:25:24
he had accidentally hurt me um the same way that a man it has had
2:25:28
that taboo driven into him all of his life, since early childhood. And
2:25:35
that that tells me there's some instinct there as well. Men don't like to
2:25:39
hurt people. It's why it's generally understood that's men are generally more individualistic and
2:25:48
women are generally more collectivists. There's there's all men's interests more individualistic and women's
2:25:56
interests are more collective, collectivist socially, and this extends into governments, and
2:26:03
this is why the bigger and more powerful government's become, the more go and
2:26:07
eccentric they become, because it's generally assumed, almost genetically, that that an
2:26:16
individual man has a power over an individual woman. And so we've created this
2:26:22
collectivism, originally genetically, but eventually socially and eventually legally to offset this by
2:26:31
having some kind of system that gives women advantage over men. And I would
2:26:37
assume at some point maybe in this development we developed this sort of balance,
2:26:43
but we've gone way beyond the point where it's balanced well, and there's a
2:26:48
reason. You know, men instinctively, men don't like to hurt people.
2:26:52
Like I've noticed this and I sort of put it on a back burner of
2:26:56
well, we have this taboo, we have this to No, men don't
2:26:58
like to hurt people, and they in particular don't like to hurt people who
2:27:03
are not as big and strong and smart and fast and so long as they
2:27:05
are. They don't like to hurt people they view as vulnerable, and they
2:27:09
don't like to hurt people who have any neotany to their look at all.
2:27:15
Right, they don't like to hurt children. They don't like to hurt women.
2:27:18
And it's it's typical of men to feel bad if they think they've hurt
2:27:24
somebody who is smaller and weaker than they are, or who is perceived as
2:27:28
smaller and weaker than they are. And it may have much to do with
2:27:33
that taboo, that taboo maybe takes it to a much higher level than it
2:27:37
needs to be, but it's it's not the only cause of that. And
2:27:46
women take advantage of that, right because we know and there's an instinct to
2:27:54
taking advantage of that is out. We know that we can appeal to that,
2:27:58
and we know that instinctively that it makes us safer around men who care
2:28:05
about us, or who even just seem to be upstanding in their community,
2:28:11
upstanding members in their community, as opposed to men who don't seem to be
2:28:16
upstanding members in their community. Right, So, because of that, it's
2:28:24
made it. We've we've created a situation where a man's vulnerability to being lied
2:28:30
about is profoundly deepened. It's it's profoundly spread. Any woman can do it,
2:28:35
and it has an impact that is disproportionate, like um hitting a baseball,
2:28:43
but when it lands, it's a comet, and we haven't paid attention
2:28:50
to that as a society. We haven't recognized that men will instinctively react to
2:28:56
that, and men out side the allegation will instinctively react by protecting the woman,
2:29:03
and men who are the target of the ax allegation will instinctively react by
2:29:09
feeling ashamed, feeling humiliated, feeling wrong. There will be a sense of
2:29:22
consistent wrongness about them. That's that's not something that they can help. Right,
2:29:28
So we've dealt with men's physical advantage over women by making that rule,
2:29:33
But that rule is based on something that like, men didn't just pull that
2:29:37
rule out of their asses. They recognize it as as a man. A
2:29:43
boy matures into a man, this part of him grows that makes him protective
2:29:48
of the people around him that are smaller and weaker. Right, and so
2:29:52
we will make this a standard in society because it shows the kind of maturity
2:29:58
that makes a man a valuable member of his society. And unfortunately we've failed
2:30:05
to teach women to respect the impact of exploiting that phenomenon. Because you're right,
2:30:18
we are a social species. Yeah, well, men and women alike,
2:30:22
understand yep, So we get right back to what I said before.
2:30:28
You know, don't don't just listen to us talk about this. You have
2:30:33
to spread that understanding. We need everybody on that, not just us.
2:30:39
We're just a few people and we have a lot of listeners. But the
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more conversations that happen around this where it's understood that a women shouldn't take advantage
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by lying and be women shouldn't take advantage by hitting because only a bully hits
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somebody who's not allowed to hit them back, right. Um. Until that
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becomes common thought, we will continue to see stories like this over and over
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again. So there you go. Um, you don't have to spread it
2:31:13
at work. Um, but you like you can't talk I understand most people
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can't talk politics at work, but you know, just among the people that
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you're close to at least. Yeah, please don't talk about this ship we
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talk about work, You're you'll only get fired. Yeah, talk on politics
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at work doesn't work, Um, especially not in the United States. So
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let's see we have. Um, I haven't moved to a Rumble after show
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yet. Somebody asked about that on Rumble. I will in the future.
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I think do our our after shows on Rumble um if if we need to.
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But yeah, we have haven't got any paid Rumble rants. Um.
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Yeah. Well, mister Stevenson once highlighted this is uh mio foresina. Uh
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I hope I said that right? No miawa forsina. Mister Stevenson wants highlighted
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a segment from one of the ICMI events in which they mentioned how despite all
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of the talk about mental health, nobody talks about the concept of mental torment.
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That's an important point. U. Yeah. That wasn't me. That
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was that was some fella from the MI events in twenty seventeen. I mean,
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yeah, it was a very good point, but it was six years
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ago and it was some other guy. Yeah, it's a good thing to
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highlight. And uh, I think that's what he was pointing out is that
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you've mentioned this before. Um, that's a's an important point because mental torment
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has to be understood in order to promote mental health. So there you go.
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I think that was probably the most important one to really read out loud.
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But but yeah, with that, I think we are going to go
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into the after show, so I will thank you guys for sticking out the
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long sausage with me. Thanks everybody for listening to this one. This one
2:33:20
was a rough one, and thanks to everybody that works in the background to
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make HBr Talk happen. A good idol