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  Speaker 1: Hello again everyone, and welcome to Inside the Birds. It's
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  Speaker 1: Adam Kaplan and our intrepid beat reporter, the one and
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  Speaker 1: only Andrew Duiceco Andrew, welcome back, my friend, Adam.
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  Speaker 2: It's great to be with you. A lot going on
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  Speaker 2: this time of year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're just technically over two weeks. It's really two
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  Speaker 1: weeks in a day till the draft. It's kind of
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  Speaker 1: moved along here. We've got the pro day workouts are
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  Speaker 1: almost all over, the prejeft visits are in full swing.
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  Speaker 3: They're almost over. So yeah, you know it.
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  Speaker 1: The theme of this show, Andrew, is we want to
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  Speaker 1: take a look at some potential three day targets for
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  Speaker 1: your Day three, which is rounds four through seven.
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  Speaker 3: I've been around so long.
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  Speaker 1: When I first started covering league, the entire drafts in
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  Speaker 1: one day, and then they smartly split it up. Day
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  Speaker 1: one is obviously first round, Day two is rounds two
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  Speaker 1: to three, and then Day three is four through seven.
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  Speaker 1: But Jeff and I on our regular show have been
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  Speaker 1: talking about Andrew how lately Howie has not hit well
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  Speaker 1: on the third day picks. He's been phenomenal mostly on
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  Speaker 1: first and second round picks, particularly first round, but third
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  Speaker 1: day picks.
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  Speaker 3: He's got to do better.
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  Speaker 2: Just overall.
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  Speaker 3: We'll go into it.
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  Speaker 1: And there have been some hits, but some missus as well.
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  Speaker 1: You're not third day, they're not supposed to come in
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  Speaker 1: at start. But what are your thoughts since Sirianni and
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  Speaker 1: how he been working together for the over the five
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  Speaker 1: years about those third day picks they've made.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, really, except for the Jalen Rager year, I think
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  Speaker 4: Howie Roseman has done a really strong job, especially rounds
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  Speaker 4: one through three. As you mentioned on day three, there's
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  Speaker 4: a lot to be desired. You look at the Anniah Smiths,
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  Speaker 4: the John high Towers, you kind of go down the list.
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  Speaker 4: There's there's been some offensive linemen, so they haven't panned out.
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  Speaker 2: And you look you look at day three.
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  Speaker 4: As you know, Adam to fill out depth and be
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  Speaker 4: developed select players with developmental upside, and their stay has
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  Speaker 4: been short. So they're going to have to go back
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  Speaker 4: to the drawing board and try to try to bring
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  Speaker 4: some guys in here that you think that you think
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  Speaker 4: can help you for the future.
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  Speaker 1: So on your point about developmental upside twenty eighteen, Josh
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  Speaker 1: weat fourth round that is a perfect example of here's
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  Speaker 1: a guy that because of issues before he got there
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  Speaker 1: physically going back to high school or his football career
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  Speaker 1: was very nearly ended and he was dragging that one
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  Speaker 1: leg and it was a problem. And Jeff and I
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  Speaker 1: that was our first year we had we had to
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  Speaker 1: report a team in the AFC. West took off the
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  Speaker 1: drift board. They were concerned about his ability to get
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  Speaker 1: a second contract. Well, Digos had great information. He's had
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  Speaker 1: a terrific career, got a big free agent deal with Arizona. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and then you've got the Milota one, which you want
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  Speaker 1: to talk about developmental upside. Nobody knew what his upside was.
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  Speaker 1: They don't played football before, you know. But fast forwarding
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  Speaker 1: now to twenty twenty one, their first year together Andrew,
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  Speaker 1: let's let we'll start there, right, so that in fact,
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  Speaker 1: I've had I think twenty four third date picks over
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  Speaker 1: their five years together, and that first year in twenty
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  Speaker 1: one they had six.
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  Speaker 3: Zach Macpherson it was a torn achilles, correct, he.
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  Speaker 2: Wound up having that was an achilles?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he wound up being cut later on.
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  Speaker 3: Needed make it.
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  Speaker 1: Kenny Gamewell, a phenomenal fifth round pick, just got a
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  Speaker 1: good free agent deal with the Bucks. He wound up
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  Speaker 1: winning a third down back roll.
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  Speaker 3: Just there was best.
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  Speaker 1: He was the best pass protector during his tenure with
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles, and he had a phenomenal year with the Steelers.
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  Speaker 3: How about him leading them and receiving He was their
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  Speaker 3: team MVP.
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  Speaker 4: He's just and I've said this over the years, he's
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  Speaker 4: just a good football player. He does a lot of
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  Speaker 4: things well. He was dependable, He was a tough runner
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  Speaker 4: despite not having the you know, the larger frame that
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  Speaker 4: you would expect. He caught the ball well whenever they
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  Speaker 4: would throw it to him. And he wasn't necessarily explosive.
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  Speaker 4: But I remember talking to him that summer while going
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  Speaker 4: into the twenty twenty four season, and he'd mentioned to
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  Speaker 4: me about how he was working on becoming more of
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  Speaker 4: an explosive player. And I think that that that really
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  Speaker 4: showcased itself during that year when he got his opportunities.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, when we talked to Ryan Silverfield, his former head
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  Speaker 1: coach at Memphis is now at Arkansas. When they got
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  Speaker 1: him at Memphis, he was around he was around COVID,
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  Speaker 1: it was right before it and they line him up
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  Speaker 1: as a slot receiver. They were moving him around formation,
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  Speaker 1: And the thing with him was he you know, he
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  Speaker 1: wasn't there for very long. It was hard to justify
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  Speaker 1: drafting him on like like like third round, even as
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  Speaker 1: high as that, which is the lowest down of the
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  Speaker 1: starter rounds, true starter round. So yeah, he was a
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  Speaker 1: great success. So he was a success. That's definitely hit
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  Speaker 1: for Howie, no question about it.
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  Speaker 3: Six rounds.
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  Speaker 4: Do you remember that that year Memphis had not only
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  Speaker 4: Kenny Gangwa if I'm remembering correctly, they also had Antonio Gibson.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, who that was a hit. That was definitely hit
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  Speaker 1: for Washington. He won, signing a decent free agent deal
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  Speaker 1: with New England. Unfortunately toured his A C L six
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  Speaker 1: round picks. They had three of them. Toron Jackson, it's
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  Speaker 1: been around a little bit with the Niners, the Eagles.
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  Speaker 1: The Eagles cut him. He would later come back. That's
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  Speaker 1: a miss because he was cut so and he needs
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  Speaker 1: to figure out what he's gonna do with whether he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna latch almost him. But the one that I just
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  Speaker 1: remember when Jacoby Stevens Andrew oh six round pick out
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  Speaker 1: of LSU. That's the school we know, sec school. Well, Andrew,
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  Speaker 1: tell us what you remember about Jacoby Stephens.
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  Speaker 4: Aside from being an undersized hybrid safety linebacker who wore
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  Speaker 4: number thirty, I vividly recalled being at a training camp
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  Speaker 4: practice in which he intercepted a pass that was right
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  Speaker 4: over the middle. It looked like it was sort of telegraph.
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  Speaker 4: But that's about all I remember about Jacoby Stevens.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he he kind of bounced around a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: He's actually back at LSU in football operations, but he
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  Speaker 1: just never made it with the Eagles. He never came back.
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  Speaker 1: Their other six round pick was Marlon Tuey Polo two.
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  Speaker 1: His brother Tuley's pretty good as an interest yeah, for
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  Speaker 1: the Chargers, but he wound up not making it.
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  Speaker 3: He he would go to the.
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  Speaker 1: Chiefs practice squad and then okay, so you've got one
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  Speaker 1: hitting game one.
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  Speaker 3: Now this one. I'm interested to see what you think
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  Speaker 3: of this one.
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  Speaker 1: Patrick Johnson, who was released but would come back and forth,
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  Speaker 1: go to the Giants, come back to the Eagles. Would
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  Speaker 1: you call that a miss because of the seventh round
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  Speaker 1: or he was cut?
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  Speaker 3: How do you look?
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  Speaker 4: No, I think that's a great pick anytime, and I
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  Speaker 4: think for four consecutive years he made the Eagles fifty
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  Speaker 4: three man roster outright, and for a seventh round pick
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  Speaker 4: to have that kind of staying power, that's a hit.
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  Speaker 4: And yes, he was a special teams player and very
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  Speaker 4: minimally contributing on defense. But anytime you're able to hang
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  Speaker 4: around as long as he has, and he actually signed
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  Speaker 4: to the Patriots practice squad ahead of the Super Bowl,
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  Speaker 4: so he had a chance to potentially get a ring.
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  Speaker 4: He's hung around a little bit. I think that's a
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  Speaker 4: successful selection.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say based on what he did with
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles, Yes, because he was actually a key special teamer,
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  Speaker 1: I would say that's a mild hit. Yeah, so game
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  Speaker 1: well is a hit. We'll give Patrick Johnson a hit.
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  Speaker 1: Now in twenty twenty two, they train away a lot
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  Speaker 1: of picks. So the first one of the third day
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  Speaker 1: picks with six round Kyron Johnson, who would be cut?
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  Speaker 3: He would go to the Steelers. He only played one
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  Speaker 3: year for the Eagles, one year with a Steelers.
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  Speaker 1: She was a The thing with him was he at
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  Speaker 1: elite speed, but very very raw.
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  Speaker 3: Never made it.
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  Speaker 1: Now I'm interested in how you view Grant Calcuterra.
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  Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on him as.
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  Speaker 2: A six round pick.
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  Speaker 4: Again, to be hanging around and have a sort of
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  Speaker 4: a defined role. And for a couple of years after
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  Speaker 4: you know, they had the tight end position. Said a
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  Speaker 4: little bit. He elevated to the number two role when
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  Speaker 4: Jack Stolee moved on, and you could look at it
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  Speaker 4: and say, yeah, he's not a great blocker. He's a
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  Speaker 4: really good receiver. He has good athleticism in training camp.
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  Speaker 4: I think that Jalen Hurts has proven that he trusts
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  Speaker 4: Grant Calcutra. Grant Calcuta, he doesn't have a big impact
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  Speaker 4: during the season as a pass catcher, but he was
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  Speaker 4: grossly miscast as a blocker.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, that's not on.
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  Speaker 4: Grant that that's on coaches for putting him in a
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  Speaker 4: position that doesn't highlight what he does well. And I
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  Speaker 4: think because he was a sixth round pick and he
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  Speaker 4: signed another contract, he's back for another year.
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  Speaker 2: He resigned.
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  Speaker 3: That's a hit.
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  Speaker 2: I would view that as a success.
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  Speaker 1: So eight third day picks in twenty one and twenty
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  Speaker 1: two combine, they had three hits game most clearly a hit.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously he did great for the Eagles as a fifth rounder.
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  Speaker 1: Patrick Johnson's a mild hit short special team or hey,
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  Speaker 1: that that's all you could get. And that's that's all
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  Speaker 1: you could think you're going to get. I mean, it
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  Speaker 1: showed him a lot of stories. Come on, that's that's
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  Speaker 1: the once in a life.
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  Speaker 4: Most seventh round picks they don't make. Don't let they're
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  Speaker 4: not on a team. Yeah, they'll make it right after
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  Speaker 4: a number of years. You know, I think Patrick Johnson's
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  Speaker 4: kind of hung on and it's been a you know,
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  Speaker 4: a good story.
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  Speaker 1: And then Greencock terrors definitely hit because he got he
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  Speaker 1: came back. But again, you know, six round picks are
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  Speaker 1: never expected to start. So they got three out of eight.
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  Speaker 3: That's not bad. That's not a bad hit rate. And
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  Speaker 3: twenty three they had.
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  Speaker 1: Three of them. Fourth rounder Keee Ringo. He is not
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  Speaker 1: a hit to me. I'm going to tell you why
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  Speaker 1: people can disagree.
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  Speaker 3: He least a fourth.
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  Speaker 1: Round is a high end backup round. He's no longer
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  Speaker 1: a backup. He's not in the rotation. Fandro doesn't believe
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  Speaker 1: in him. He's an excellent special teams player, no question
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  Speaker 1: about that. But Andrew, unless you disagree with me, I
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  Speaker 1: just don't see any way you could call this one
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  Speaker 1: a hit.
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  Speaker 4: No, it's certainly not a hit, Adam, and you don't
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  Speaker 4: draft a player in the fourth round to be a
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  Speaker 4: high end special teams performer. They've given Keeley Ringo a
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  Speaker 4: lot of opportunities to try and etch out a role
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  Speaker 4: on defense, and he hasn't been up to the task.
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  Speaker 4: Really stiff in the hips, just not particularly strong at
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  Speaker 4: locating the football. It just wasn't working out. And maybe
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  Speaker 4: somewhere else it will work out. But in Philadelphia, which
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  Speaker 4: is what we're talking about, it hasn't. And you have
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  Speaker 4: yourself a player who's an exceptional special teamer, but in
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  Speaker 4: the fourth round, that's not what you're looking.
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  Speaker 3: For, all right.
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  Speaker 1: In the sixth round, this one's hit potentially a big hit.
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  Speaker 3: You never know.
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  Speaker 1: If they trade and they can get a lot for him,
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  Speaker 1: we'll see. But that's Tanner McKee. The sixth round quarterback
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  Speaker 1: Andrew I'll tell you when I saw him in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty three in training camp, I'm like, Okay, he has
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  Speaker 1: somewhat of an arm, but he's stiff, he can't move.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure what happened in the off season of
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  Speaker 1: twenty four, but he looked like a different guy. And
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  Speaker 1: when they were rolling the mountain training camp, I'm like, okay, is.
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  Speaker 3: This the same guy?
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  Speaker 1: I was kind of surprised, and he I know the
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  Speaker 1: Washington game, playing with backups heat it look great.
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  Speaker 3: But he's been a great story of development so far.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he has Eagles really value him.
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  Speaker 4: Every year he's taken steps further in his development and
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  Speaker 4: he's a high end number two. And who knows, there's
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  Speaker 4: there's a scenario down the line potentially where he competes
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  Speaker 4: for a starting job or could be a starting quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: And I think he adds a lot of value to
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  Speaker 4: that room. And has a sixth round pick. There's not
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  Speaker 4: a lot more you can ask.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's that's a that's a that's a home run
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  Speaker 1: and a major home run. I'd call this a grand slam.
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  Speaker 1: Is a guy who went in the seventh round out
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  Speaker 1: of Texas.
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  Speaker 3: Moro Jomo.
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  Speaker 1: I remember Andrew Jeff and I had similar information. There
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  Speaker 1: were some maturity issues with him. Super smart guy, Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but there was something like in scouting, you're like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: what Greg Cosell loved him? Okay, Greg was very high
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  Speaker 1: on him, and we were asked, okay, what happened because
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  Speaker 1: he's okay, maybe he wanted a little bit wider like
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  Speaker 1: Milt Williams, who doesn't He's not as long as Moro,
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  Speaker 1: but he's explosive, first step quickness, fantastic. Nothing wrong with
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  Speaker 1: them character wise, it was just off the field, it
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  Speaker 1: was just he was kind of the knock on him
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  Speaker 1: was kind of a no at all, maybe too smart
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  Speaker 1: if you could believe that kind of that that was
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  Speaker 1: in and we got it from multiple scouting people from
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  Speaker 1: other teams like that that was They had similar information like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: well guess what the seventh round are not much as expected.
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  Speaker 1: He's got some upside and who knew he had a
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  Speaker 1: really good he had a breakout seas he's up for extension.
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  Speaker 3: Andrew, I got to call that a grand slam.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with you again. Now look when I look
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  Speaker 2: at Moro Joe.
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  Speaker 4: But I've said this on my Dechecho Daily podcast, Adam,
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  Speaker 4: he's one of my favorite players to watch on this
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  Speaker 4: egos defense with the physicality, the violent hands, his ability
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  Speaker 4: to use leverage to his advantage, uses long arms. He
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  Speaker 4: has a unique build and landon Dickerson and other players.
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  Speaker 4: Tyler Stein have talked about that and for a seventh
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  Speaker 4: round pick, He's now positioned himself for a Lucra to
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  Speaker 4: payday that's waiting for him.
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  Speaker 2: So I mean that is a grand slam absolutely all right.
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  Speaker 1: Now, so out of eleven, out of eleven third day picks,
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  Speaker 1: they've gotten five. Right again, we're including Patrick Johnson. It's
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  Speaker 1: not a bad hit rate at all. That's actually not
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  Speaker 1: bad considering not much as expected. But then the problems start.
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  Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four, Howie had six third day picks.
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  Speaker 1: We'll start with our friend will Shipley, who's definitely contributed
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  Speaker 1: to Andrew. I just think Tank Bigsby is I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he is there too, there's no question about that, and
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  Speaker 1: we'll can help them a third down. He helps Will
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  Speaker 1: also help some special teams. What are your thoughts here
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  Speaker 1: in wire Shipley.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this is going to be a really
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  Speaker 4: big year for Will because I think the expected change
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  Speaker 4: schematically in the run game, you would think it would
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  Speaker 4: favor what Will ship we can do. You would think
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  Speaker 4: that you're going to add in elements of the receiving
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  Speaker 4: you know, the receiving aspect for running backs, which again
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  Speaker 4: would seemingly catered to Will. If it doesn't come together
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  Speaker 4: in year three, I would say that's probably a whiff
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  Speaker 4: for a fourth round pick. But right now I'm a
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  Speaker 4: little I'm a little undecided on that because he's been
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  Speaker 4: returning kicks, he hasn't played all that much. They haven't
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  Speaker 4: really rotated the running backs all that much with Saquon
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  Speaker 4: Barkley at the helm.
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  Speaker 2: So right now, I'm I'm going to give that an incomplete.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, that's I put I inc incomplete. That's
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  Speaker 1: exactly what I put on a good job there. Now,
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  Speaker 1: they had three fifth rounders, and man, this guy. I
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  Speaker 1: was so excited when they drafted a nice Smith because
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  Speaker 1: we had pretty good intel on him.
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  Speaker 3: And this is a guy that I know. He had
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  Speaker 3: a couple of foot injuries.
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  Speaker 1: I understand that, and I believe he's still with the Jets,
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  Speaker 1: but they cut him. He never made it, and an
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  Speaker 1: I Smith Andrew I had high host for it just
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  Speaker 1: never happened.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it was a miss.
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  Speaker 4: But it seemed like he was going to be the
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  Speaker 4: long awaited manufactured touch player that the Eagles needed or
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  Speaker 4: could have used in the offense.
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  Speaker 2: It just didn't pan out.
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  Speaker 4: I very much enjoyed my conversations with a naias he
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  Speaker 4: was someone who I thought developed a lot and matured
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  Speaker 4: a lot during his brief time with the Eagles, but
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  Speaker 4: it just didn't pan out. He did have a touchdown
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  Speaker 4: I think that was in the season finale against maybe
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  Speaker 4: the Giants with the Cowboys, but other than that, it
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  Speaker 4: was he didn't really contribute all that much. I think
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  Speaker 4: he signed with the Panthers practice squad after cutdowns and.
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  Speaker 1: He's back to the Panthers. I'm sorry, he's actually I'm sorry. Yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he would go to the Jets and then go to
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  Speaker 1: the Panthers where he's a slot receiver. Yeah, who's a
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  Speaker 1: multi dimensional player, and it just he couldn't stay healthy here.
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  Speaker 1: But boy, we I've lamented for years they need to
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  Speaker 1: slot receiver, the Eagles do, but unfortunately it didn't happen. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the next guy has been a big time special teams player.
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  Speaker 1: That Jeremiah Trotter Junior. He's played a ton of special
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  Speaker 1: team sacks, snaps sixty six percent year one, seventy six
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: year two. The problem is, Andrew, they're so good at
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: inside backer, even with Yukobe Dean moving on. But let
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: me ask you this cool one, because they haven't had
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: a lot of fifth rounders. As a matter of fact,
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: the last fifth rounder they had before this was twenty
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: twenty one. They didn't have one in twenty two and
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: twenty three. Evaluate What are your thoughts in Trotter so
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: far over his two seasons.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: I think that's a hit. He's a highly intelligent player.
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: He plays with great instincts, not the biggest guy in
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: the world, doesn't have the overwhelming athleticism that you'd like
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: from the position. But I do believe that based on
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: what I've seen really the last two training camps and
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: when he's had to jump in, whether it's late in
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: the season or what have you, I think that in
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: another circumstance where the team does and have the embarrassment
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: of riches at linebacker, he could compete for a starting job.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: I really do believe that.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: Six and twenty seven special team snaps, well, that's a
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: lot he's yeah, so they're definitely getting value out of him.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: The next guy we had our reservations, Trevor Keegan, wound
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: up getting waived. He's with Dallas, he's claimed off waivers,
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: and his problem was upper body. We had noted that
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: he had issues core strength, and it's just his body
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: was not made out for the NFL and he didn't
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: make it.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: And that see, this is.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Where we felt they needed to replace him for a
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Jack Driss goal, and unfortunate Trevor Keagan did not work out.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't work out.
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: They tried him at center as well last summer, and
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: he played some center at the Senior Bowl. They gave
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: him every opportunity, and it just it wasn't a fit
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: here in Philadelphia. Is he still on the Cowboys?
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, yep. The next guy did work out. It
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: for a role, and that's a jumbo receiver Johnny Wilson. No,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: they're not playing the tight end. He's coming up a
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: staging the injury. But I'll tell you what, we were skeptical.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: It wasn't quite the role that we thought he would have.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: But two years ago we did a good job because
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: they were sure as hell ran the football.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I think that's I'm going to give that
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: a hit because of the impact that he had, especially
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: as a blocker, and how pivotal he was to the
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: offense doing things without having to be ball centric in
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty four, and he would have had a larger
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: role in twenty twenty five based on what we were
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: seeing in training camp. Maybe not as a predominant pass catcher,
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: but certainly when it comes to the blocking element, and
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: I think that that was an absence that when you
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: look back on last season, Yeah, it definitely hurt him,
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: so on value alone, I think that's a win.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: And the next guy, we didn't think much of him
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: when the drafted him because he was too small. We
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: saw a training camp. That's Dylan McMahon, who the Rams
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: claimed off waivers. Andrew, it's never good when you see
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: a guy you think he's a full back, notot of center,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: and that one didn't work out.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: I believe maybe you and I were having that conversation
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: in one day on the sideline, it looked like a
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: fullback wear number sixty three. Credit to him for landing
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: somewhere else. We'll see if he's able to to latch
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: on somewhere. But it was kind of evident early that
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: he didn't necessarily have a place with the Eagles. It
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: didn't seem like he was going to be able to
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: stay around for a long time.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's six' three ish two, ninety but he
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: looked about two sixty AND i because he, wasn't you,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: know in training camp with it it's a day when
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: they're not wearing pads and they're wearing. Shells they look so,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: small and he LOOKED i, thought, really.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah i'm shocked that he said he was six.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Three i know, he's yeah he's a little. Bit older
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: he didn't look he looked six. To one, so okay Twenty.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Fourth shipley still. IT'S incomplete i Totally agree smith A,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Nice Smith, miss trotter it's.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Fifth round.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: It's okay if you're not competing for a, starting job,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: fourth round you should at.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: Least be a.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Key backup trotter more is more or less a. Key backup,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: so yeah that's when it's way being A hit Keegan.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Miss well wilson's got to be in complex because.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: He had a major.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Knee injury but hit may, get, Incomplete right but, you're
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: right he did contribute. Mighty lame but did they? Miss
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: him you nailed. That one and McMahon's a. Miss now
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: but in about five minutes, or so we're going to
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: get to your potential third, day picks because that's what people.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Really want but we wanted to set. It up see
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: this is where how he's got to do, Better Now,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: ty robinson we know they loved him a lot of
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: people in scouting Around The National football league liked their
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: fourth Round Pick ty robinson Out, of nebraska very.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: RAW player i know it is not Good when.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Grego still watches his h Preseason Tape, andrew force we
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: asked him to. WATCH it i was kind. Of surprised, he,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: goes boy he needs a lot, of work even MORE than.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I thought, and yeah it's he fifteen percent of defensive snaps.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: He played there were a couple of times where they're
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: a little bit banged up, up front so, he played
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: but only twelve percent of these special. Team snaps andrew
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: kind of Underwhelmed With.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Ty robinson, you're, one yeah, you.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: Know Aside From, lewis SEENE who i got a lot
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: of questions. About THAT the i got asked about the
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: most last summer at Him Was, ty robinson and a
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: lot of folks, were asking why aren't you writing about
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: him in? Your OBSERVATIONS and i would if he flashed
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: in any. Particular WAY but i noticed someone who was
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: a little bit high in his. Pad level he was
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: sort of getting handled around the line of scrimmage and
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: blown off the ball a, little Bit And byron young
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: ended up jumping him in the. Pecking orter and this
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: is going to be a really. Big offseason we don't
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: talk about that, a lot but for Someone Like, ty
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: robinson this is a really.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Pivotal, offseason yeah because if you look at right now
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: their depth at, d, tackle well you.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Know who the three. Starters are that's not up.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: To debate, You Know gabe hall was he's been with
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: him since twenty four but been. In practice Squad Player
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: byron young is definitely the first guy off.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: The bench he's a, good. Player man he made a.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Good job that was a.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Great boy but did he do a GOOD job a
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: really good waiver claim wasn't sure, at first but he
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: got a chance and he clearly won the four job the.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: First year the other here's the.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: Other thing it complicates things when you Look At jayalen
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: carter big pay, day awaits they already Committed To. Jordan
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: davis IT'S gonna i would imagine it would be tough
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: To Work moro jomo, into it especially when you factor
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: in his pass. Rush upside that's going to command a lot.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: Of value you have to start adding to that room
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: and add a, YOUNG player i, would imagine to continue
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: to fortify, that depth so it could add a little
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: bit more of a.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Log jam there for Someone Like. Ty, robinson, yeah yeah
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: so right now he's a he's more of. A mystery
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: he's got to have, a big big second year. Off
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: season then three fifth Round picks, Mac McWilliams Corner, and
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: nickel only nine percent of the defensive steps he. RARELY
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: played i know you did the rookie diary, with him
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: and then sixteen percent of the special Team snaps andrew.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: ANOTHER guy i we had high hope. For It Now
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: coselle greg liked, HIS tape i know you. Liked him
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: it just he and They weren't it wasn't like they
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: were deep. At corner there was an opportunity, for him
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: and he just couldn't get on.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: The, field yeah there was a point earlier in the
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: SEASON where i was waiting to see whether Or not
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: mac would get. An opportunity He, played nickel but then
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: they also cross trained, him outside so you see that
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: Suggested that fangio liked his ability to pick up and grasp,
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: his system and there was a point There Where vic
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: fangio offered somewhat of praise earlier in, training camp and
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: then that sort of dissipated a little bit and other
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: players were brought In like Jacory and Bennett And michael
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: carter at the trade deadline and it sort of bumped
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: him further down the, depth chart and he was largely
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: inactive for most of. The season so again we Talked About,
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: ty robinson big off season.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: For him the same applies for.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Mc, McWilliams yeah and there's as, of now there's definitely
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: an opportunity to lease dress.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: And contribute the.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Next fifth rounder was a key special, Teams Player smile
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: mandan Out of georgia sixty six percent of his special. Teams,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: plays again logjam at. Inside backer now You've got campbell
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: coming back of. Shoulder surgery he's second one in, two
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Years And nakobe dean has. Moved on there's an opportunity
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: here and released in the off season to get.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: More, snaps YEAH and i should also mention that, Last
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: summer smile mind and had a nice. TRAINING camp i
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: vividly recall a play in which He Tracked saquon barkley
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: down the left sideline on a wheel route round with
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: him step for step force and incompletion that really just highlighted.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: His athleticism and then when he got to, the preseason
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: in the, actual games you Saw, that okay there's some growing.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: Pains here it didn't necessarily translate from the, practice FIELD
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: and i think that there's something there, with Him and.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: I'm curious he's a Player that i'm HIGHLIGHTING because i
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: really want to see how he returns from your in.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Year TWO but i would consider that. A, win.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah he's he's he contributed on, special teams so that's
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: it's a productive, first year at least on. Special, Teams Now,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: drew kendall he only played ten percent of special. Team
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: snaps he got. One start he's a.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Smaller.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Guy now he might fit in now because you remember
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: we have a new offensive.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: Line coach so what are your Thoughts In. Drew, kendall
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah the eagles. LIKE him i do, know THAT and
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: i remember when they. Selected him looking back on the
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty, FIVE draft i said that that was My
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: favorite day three pick For the eagles BECAUSE one I
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: View drew kendall as a starting. Caliber center it's going
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: to be a little bit tough Here, in PHILADELPHIA but
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: i think. He can he's ready to take this step
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: forward and be the primary Backup Behind. Cam jurgens and
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: he can also. Play guard but he doesn't necessarily have
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: the strength or the mass that would suggest that he can.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: Anchor CONSISTENTLY but i think that that should be considered
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: it should be considered. A hit brett's hoath had a
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: breakthrough season and he really stepped up and was the.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: Backup CENTER but i don't think it was because Of
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: What drew kendall.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Wasn't doing Is So drew kendall the hope here is
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: if he could be the, backup center that'll be a
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: win For. The eagles but this is this is a
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: huge offseason. For him they had four to six. On
• 25:00
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• 25:05
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• 25:07
  Speaker 1: I thought andrew and training, camp boy that, arm strength
• 25:09
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• 25:10
  Speaker 4: Showed, up yeah he had a rough patch there for
• 25:13
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• 25:16
  Speaker 4: adam he wasn't really able to do much with the
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: offense and it was hard to envision even though he
• 25:22
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• 25:25
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• 25:27
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  Speaker 1: And up, All right then the next six round pick
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: one up not dressing because he.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Was hurt he had, a thick a significant.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Hamsterring Injury That's, miles hinton who's a left tackle Out
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: of michigan who they have some hope for to potentially
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: be that back up left tackle over. The, future yeah.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Big guy he's a.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: Big GUY and i thought that when his practice window
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: was open that they were going to find a way
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: to get him in the mix for just for for
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: reps and, developmental purposes and it ended up being the
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: other tackle that we're going to. Talk About But miles
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: hinton is SOMEBODY that i will be keeping a close
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: eye on because that represents low cost depth if he's
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: able to.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Pan, Out Ye.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Mile Hinton miles hinton on your point six six and,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: three quarters which is, really long but he's. Much taller in,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: His dad chris it was a guard At a northwestern three,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: twenty three thirty four and one eighth, inch arms eighty
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: two and three quarter, inch wingspan good size hands at
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: at ten and. A, quarter yeah he's got he's got
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: ideal length to play, left tackle no question. About it
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: that's that's a. Good one the, Next one i'll tell.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: You What kim williams was the biggest project that they drafted.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: In years but he came back from his injury and the,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: thought was because we we had noted, that internally they're
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: probably gonna red. Shirt him and then we said the,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: week before a couple of Weeks before andrew on our
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: show during, the week if, he's healthy why not get
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: him in there one of these games where if the,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: game game if there's a game for the end of the,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: regular season doesn't, mean anything and they Found one Andrew.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Against washington what are your thoughts?
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: On him i'll.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: Be HONEST when i saw that he was going, to be,
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: you know active for, THAT game i, was like, oh
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: boy because exact, you, worry well you worry about the
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: quarterback and what that could mean for him and how
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: the offense would have.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Would OPERATE but i gotta, tell you he.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: SURPRISED me i thought he acquitted himself better than anyone could,
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: have expected knowing that he doesn't have a lot. OF
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: experience i think if he goes into the draft, this
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: year there's a conversation where he's Possibly a day, two
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: pick and that was a lot of the dialogue that.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: That was, that was, you know Hovering Around cam williams
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: When the eagles, drafted him that it was sort of
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: a move made for.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: The FUTURE and i think that he carries him.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Upside six five and, three quarters thirty four and a half,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: inch arms eighty four and a half, inch wingspan which,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: is phenomenal and huge hands at eleven to. Three ace
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: that's he's a developmental prospect like you were talking. About
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: earlier that is the epitome. Of one so he's off
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: to a. Good start he's got to have a good
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: offseason under this new coaching staff. On offense and then
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: the Last one andrew this guy twenty five and a
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: half Sacks At. Virginia tech he Went to florida, Before
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: That Antoine, powell ryland he went up not making these
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  Speaker 1: now With the.
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  Speaker 3: Bengals, offseason YEAH.
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  Speaker 4: What i Remember About Antoine powell ryland was his preseason
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  Speaker 4: finale where he looked like an all. WORLD player i
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  Speaker 4: think he got a couple of sacks in. That game and,
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  Speaker 4: then yeah he just was never heard from and there
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  Speaker 4: wasn't really room for him to. Stick around he was
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  Speaker 4: On the bengals. Practice squad i'm not sure if they
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  Speaker 4: signed them to a reserve, futures deal but, you know
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  Speaker 4: all the best.
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  Speaker 2: TO him i had some good chats with him for
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  Speaker 2: the time that he.
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  Speaker 1: Was there he's actually With the, bengals Now Is Intron
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  Speaker 1: powell ryland so and they could always use. Pass rushers
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  Speaker 1: so before we move on to your potential third day
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  Speaker 1: all right, all right. All right so let's get to
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  Speaker 1: Your potential day, three picks regardless.
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  Speaker 3: Of position rounds four.
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  Speaker 1: Through seven give us a couple of guys that, you
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  Speaker 1: like who you think would fit in With.
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  Speaker 2: The Eagles, caleb proctor or defensive Tackle From.
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  Speaker 4: Southeastern louisiana now there's a little bit of a caveat
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  Speaker 4: HERE because i view him as. A four i viewed
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  Speaker 4: him throughout the process as a fourth, round pick BUT
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  Speaker 4: now i believe that there's a chance that he could
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  Speaker 4: go late. Round three but for, this purpose for, This
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  Speaker 4: exercise i'll look at it, and say he kind of
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  Speaker 4: reminds me a little Bit Of moro jomo six two
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  Speaker 4: two ninety. Nine sacks. Last season he had two SACKS.
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  Speaker 4: Against lsu he played really well, against them and thirteen tackles,
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  Speaker 4: for lost thirty, six pressures thirty three. Inch ARMS and
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  Speaker 4: i just like, his explosiveness his ability to be an
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  Speaker 4: upfield penetrator and be, a disruptor and his stock is
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  Speaker 4: seemingly rising by.
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  Speaker 1: The Day, southeast louisiana by, The, way, So yeah proctor
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  Speaker 1: has got interesting measurables because he's not real tall six
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  Speaker 1: one and seventies.
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  Speaker 3: His. His arm, let me let me SEE if i
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  Speaker 3: can find thirty.
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  Speaker 1: Three, arms, YEAH yeah i, JUST yeah i just saw
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  Speaker 1: that thirty three is not bad, hand size is kind
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  Speaker 1: of small nine and, a half but Has decent he
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  Speaker 1: has actually a really good short area, of Quickness Which
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  Speaker 1: joe banner told us he. Didn't care joe didn't care about.
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  Speaker 1: The forty he cared about. The ten that's what you're.
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  Speaker 1: Looking for why should who the hell cares of a?
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  Speaker 1: Defensive topic god run forty yards? Straight, right yeah it.
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  Speaker 1: Means NOTHING so i always thought that. Was Interesting So,
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  Speaker 1: caleb proctor who?
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  Speaker 4: You think, and yeah he's generating a lot of a
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  Speaker 4: lot of traction.
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  Speaker 3: Right Now.
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  Speaker 1: Southeast. Louisiana right who do you have is Next.
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  Speaker 4: Cornerback charles Demings FROM. Stephen F austin stevens who Went TO.
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  Speaker 4: Stephen f austin who was A Former. Jeremiah trotter that's
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  Speaker 4: good work. By, you yeah this is The player. ADAM
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  Speaker 4: six i forgot, it next by, the way, real quick
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  Speaker 4: NEXT time i see. TROT senior i.
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  Speaker 1: Told The super bowl two. Years ago, He'll go so we'll. Tell,
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  Speaker 1: him dude you didn't know. My school you Know what.
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  Speaker 1: I'M saying i had to know.
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  Speaker 4: That, good yeah he got it six, to one one
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  Speaker 4: hundred and ninety pounds run a four to four forty two.
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  Speaker 4: Inch vertical he has a, wiry build so.
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  Speaker 2: You worry.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry What's Name?
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  Speaker 2: Charles?
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  Speaker 1: Demings, demons okay gotcha.
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  Speaker 4: Five pass breakups, last season. Four interceptions good ball SKILLS
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  Speaker 4: and i like his ability to have that long speed
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  Speaker 4: where he's he has the ability to flip his hips,
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  Speaker 4: and runs so he's a. Fluid player but maybe ball
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  Speaker 4: tracking tackling because he has that wiry BUILD that i
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  Speaker 4: WAS that i was. Alluding to and of course the
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  Speaker 4: the small school doesn't do him any.
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  Speaker 1: Favors either it's got good less six to one in
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  Speaker 1: an eighth, for corners. Really good his his arm, Like
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  Speaker 1: that yeah. It's creeat that's. Really good that's actually. Really
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  Speaker 1: good han are big ten and eighth ran well at
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  Speaker 1: the combine four four two is actually his official officials four,
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  Speaker 1: for one which is solid ten. Yard split wasn't bad
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  Speaker 1: at one five at actually one five three which Is,
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  Speaker 1: a yeah it's.
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  Speaker 3: Not bad, so yeah it's a. Good.
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  Speaker 1: One, man yeah that that is a. Good one anyone
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  Speaker 1: else on?
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  Speaker 4: Your list eric McAllister a wide RECEIVER, from tcu but
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  Speaker 4: he like six' four roughly, two hundred pounds runs a.
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  Speaker 4: Four to four he, has good speed but it's. More
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  Speaker 4: straight line he has the ability. To really separate not
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  Speaker 4: the most polished route runner and doesn't really create separation.
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  Speaker 4: In that way the short area, quickness AS well but
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  Speaker 4: i like his ability to go up there and compete
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  Speaker 4: for the football in fifty.
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  Speaker 2: To FIFTY balls.
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  Speaker 4: And i think that he strikes me as someone who's
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  Speaker 4: going to be not necessarily a plug and play BUT
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  Speaker 4: an effective x at. The next level just need to
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  Speaker 4: be a little.
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  Speaker 1: Bit more consistent and McCallister six three and five a's
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  Speaker 1: thirty two and five eighth inch arms nine to.
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  Speaker 3: Three quarter hands.
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  Speaker 1: Which is fine you liked it, to be ten but
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  Speaker 1: you're you know it only. Sleep Over it that's ERIC
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  Speaker 1: McAllister MC A L I. S.
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  Speaker 1: Out of tcu anyone else, In, Your list.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah i'll give.
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  Speaker 4: You Another, one trey Zoon THE third TEXAS. A and
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  Speaker 4: m he's an offensive blindman who was a four year starter.
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  Speaker 4: At left tackle but he's always six six and a
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  Speaker 4: half three hundred, and twelve pounds And the belief adam
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  Speaker 4: is that he's going to be asked. To kick inside
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  Speaker 4: he offers center upside, and guard upside and despite always
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  Speaker 4: being grander, than twelve pounds he does, have the, ability
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  Speaker 4: the power the play. STRENGTH to anchor i think that
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  Speaker 4: if you're Looking For a brett tooath, type of replacement
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  Speaker 4: he would make a lot of sense in rounds. Four
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  Speaker 4: OR five so. I like that you also like the
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  Speaker 4: experience a, four year starter team captain Last YEAR for
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  Speaker 4: texas a and.
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  Speaker 3: Up arm land thirty two.
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  Speaker 1: And, a half yes he's got, guard arm length the
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  Speaker 1: sixty six, and one half three twelve of the. Combine,
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  Speaker 1: ten inch yeah his Hands were, ten so yeah that's. A,
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  Speaker 1: Good One yeah trey zoon the Third OUT of TEXAS.
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  Speaker 1: A and m, Really, good list andrew and so what's
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  Speaker 1: your schedule? Like these days what do you got coming
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  Speaker 1: up here to just about two weeks.
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